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Speaker 1: tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gangs the Goals. He gonna tell

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Speaker 1: nothing but the truth, Gangs, the Chronic Goals. This is

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Speaker 1: mc adick, James and Bix Stairs the Streets. Hello, we

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Speaker 1: like to welcome ever we want to another episode against

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast with my homeboys. Of course, Big Ja

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Speaker 1: and we have some legends in the building night Man.

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Speaker 1: We got Brag Jordan, Nick cave S garfacing Mr Woollie Dan.

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Speaker 1: What's cred? Hey? You know too blessed to be stressed? Right? Family?

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Speaker 1: Ship You ever heard that? You ever heard that song

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Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah, she man. You know there's so many

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Speaker 1: Legendary ship Man and you're really just like some of

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Speaker 1: And if you lose your mind, always gonna crystallize your

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Speaker 1: America whatever and settled it. Right, wasn't that what they

425
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: left England for them, trying to press them with the

426
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Speaker 1: money and stuff. Then they turned around in the eight

427
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: hundreds and did the same thing again because it's the

428
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: time of war. You an't supposed to take taxes when

429
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: it's time of war. That was the thing to support

430
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: the war. But they kept it going because America has

431
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: managed to keep herself in the state of war since then,

432
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 1: around the world we somewhere fightings, and it allows them

433
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: to keep taking all money. You think about it, I'm

434
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Speaker 1: asking I'm gonna ask you all all this will how

435
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: much have you paid them to the social Security system?

436
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll keep m brand how much have you played in

437
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: the Social Security system? Millions and millions of dollars? Bro?

438
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, they take that money, they take that tax

439
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: money that they get from you, and they and they

440
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: advanced some of that money to your social security exactly. Man,

441
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: over time, every time I get paid, they it's something

442
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: going to Social Security. But check this out, though, right,

443
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: I looked at some ship the other day, and he

444
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: says that through my life, I've already accumulated enough credits

445
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: to retire, right, but I'm not allowed to retire. I

446
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: thought it was sixty. I looked on the stick. Sixty seven, okay,

447
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: seven years old? Yeah, so I retire sixty seven years old.

448
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: I don't give these people almost a little bit over

449
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: half million dollars already, right, I don't give them all

450
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: this money. I'll retire sixty seven? How long? How much longer?

451
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: Let's keep it one hundred? How much past sixty? Am

452
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: I gonna live ten years past sixty seven? If I'm

453
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: lucky for a black man, it's like seventy years, and

454
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: you've got five years after years after that. Man, that's

455
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: the kids left over. Now that's the question. What are

456
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: they gonna do with that money? I kill a little

457
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: for I passed away? Are they gonna cut my wife

458
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: and kids and check and say, here you go? Your

459
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: father was honorable, man, here's the rest of his money. No,

460
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: where did that ship go? It's all a con game, man. Yeah,

461
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: money going back into the time and they go back

462
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: to the park. But who's gonna be the person? It's like,

463
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, We're sit up here and talk well, and

464
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't like talking to me. I'm about action, Like you,

465
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: what what can we do about this ship? We don't

466
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: have no real strong leadership in the community. Man. There's

467
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ship that's really just going sideways. You know,

468
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: I have uh you know, I take issue with like

469
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: like leadership, like black leadership, like saying that we don't

470
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Speaker 1: have lead ship. And the reason why I take issue

471
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: with that is because if we if we focus on

472
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: a leader, anytime we have somebody, we can say that's

473
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: our leader, that's our leader. When they killed the leader,

474
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: they take out the leader, then the movement dies. And

475
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: see this our movement. This is why every time we

476
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: get a movement going, you met, everybody get on a board. Okay,

477
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: we got our leader, and then they take them down

478
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: and then the movement just died. So every single one

479
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: of us have leadership in us. We have We are

480
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: capable of beauty, We are capable of leading. We just

481
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: know of us who are capable. I wouldn't say all

482
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: of us are capable of leading leading, because all of

483
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: us are not capable of leading, but many of us

484
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: are capable of leading. And that's leadership. All around us.

485
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: It's just that the people that all our leaders are not,

486
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, raising their hands and saying I'm the leader.

487
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: You know that they're not. You know, like you're a leader,

488
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: You're a leader. You know. Mean there's people everybody right

489
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: here I'm calling leading. You know, I know y'all leaders

490
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: because I know I know a little bit about all y'all.

491
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know a little bit about all y'all,

492
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and everything that I've seen about y'all told me that

493
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: y'all was a leader. You know, y'all not followers. Everybody

494
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: over here is not fos. Everybody kind of moved to

495
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: the their own be to their own draft. That's leadership.

496
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: And we we just need more. You need more individuals

497
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: to assume their role. Yeah, you know, you know where

498
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: it starts too, you know, just to to get behind

499
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: what we all are saying. Man, I think that we

500
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: need to control that voting. Man. Once we control that

501
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: vote and put the right people in place to make

502
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: this for us, you know, start going a lot different. Man.

503
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: Right now, we we we we're really checking the vote.

504
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: For granted, if you get a motherucker like Willie D

505
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: in the office, you're gonna see some changes, you know,

506
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: like the office. You're don't see some changes, man, because

507
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: yeah it has to be Will they allow that? I mean,

508
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: but listen, they're gonna have to allow or they're gonna

509
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: keep going through the they're going through. You got motherfucker's

510
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: in there, has beens been sitting in Congress and send

511
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: it for fifty years, bro, and they ain't did ship

512
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: be sign their names and ship or pop up at

513
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: a motherfucking funeral. Dog. That's not leadership, bro, Leadership We

514
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: continue to take it for granted, like like like we're

515
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: taking for granted. You're gonna go and work for this

516
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: man and I'm gonna make me, you know, fifty five

517
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars a year and the person

518
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: behind me and you'all no fucking job, but fuck him,

519
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: I'm cool. That's not how we should be looking at

520
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: things these days. Bro. We should be looking at man, Okay,

521
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: I got the job that's goned pack the sixty year

522
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: in a year, But how do I get the next

523
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: man so he can take care of Now? That's what

524
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about right there. That's why I answer the

525
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: answer is uh, group group economics. That is once we

526
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: build our economic system, we didn't you run it. This

527
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: is how you run it. If you ain't got money

528
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: in the United States of America, you ain't running up

529
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: about your mind. You gotta have money, money running, money running,

530
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: So you did it. This is why, this is why

531
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: every major city in America you have these Asian communities

532
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: that before they became Asian communities, they were just they

533
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: may have been mixed communities or predominantly black communities or whatever.

534
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: And you know, you ride by in the street is

535
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: called bad at. You come through there a couple of

536
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: years sold later or one day and you just ride

537
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: by on the street is called slas slass. You know

538
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: you didn't hear no news story about in the name

539
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: of the street. They didn't have to get anybout of

540
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: the march with no schools, celebrities came out with no

541
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: special announcement. They just changed it. You know what, that's

542
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Monday money did money and make make money, make things move.

543
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: He got a lot of us. We got the money,

544
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: but we're not doing of this pool and our resources

545
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and reaching back to graph even more people and teach

546
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: them the game. You know a lot of times people

547
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: say the game and sold. I told no, we gotta

548
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: tell the game, you know, because we said that the

549
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: game is sold not too told to an extent, but

550
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: a lot of this game needs to be told in

551
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: order to bring our people along though, those of us

552
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: who are seeking that knowledge that's first. First for that knowledge,

553
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: we gotta give him the game. We can't afford. We

554
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury. And not giving them the game

555
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: we out of here. Bro we had war and it's

556
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: all his old book. We don't have the luxury. I'm

557
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: not sharing the knowledge. We don't have the luxury. Are

558
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: tapping that little youngster that might be a little wild

559
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: and everybody is scared of them. We ain't got we

560
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury, not spent the purements and just

561
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: trying to show them the different things. You don't have

562
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: that luxing, don't. I think the problem is we don't

563
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: talk about like what I'm in right here. We don't

564
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: hear that. We don't hear people talking. They're saying, we

565
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: need to get this back into schools and all it is.

566
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: We need to educate these young kids because there's a

567
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: lot of black men out there that have no clue,

568
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: that only believes in what they see and what they do.

569
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So, just like you said,

570
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: we got to get out there and relay this message.

571
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: But some of us don't want to hear this message.

572
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Some of us believe that there's no way that black

573
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: men are black people can come together and and make

574
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: ship happen. We we tell each other down, is what

575
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we got an other ways to build

576
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: each other up. Our separates thing um pretty much everything.

577
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Because when when you hear black man greeting another black man,

578
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: what's up with nigga? But then get man when the

579
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: white man said, nigga, But what about how you doing?

580
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: My brother? What's up black man? We need to greet

581
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: each other and to different kind of way because we

582
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: are stuck in something that we have no knowledge of,

583
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: belief and understand it. When these people feeding us the

584
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: other bullshit, you feel me? So what what what I'm

585
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: saying to you is we need to grow. We need

586
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: to understand and educate our minds. You don't have to

587
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: necessarily being a school because the streets marksmitted the past marks,

588
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: and if you can understand the ship that goes on

589
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: in the streets, you can come in a classroom, you

590
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: can go to work and you can spill that that

591
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: knowledge right there, like like we're doing here on this podcast.

592
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So what what black men

593
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: need to do is understand what Scar Pacing really is

594
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: talking about. What norm still have to argue what m

595
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: c a Is saying. You know what I'm saying, our

596
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: life history, the way we've been living as black people.

597
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of black people don't care

598
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: and hes you know what I'm saying about that game

599
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: if everybody, everybody ain't gonna make it. Bill, we got

600
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: to see the thing about one thing about us is

601
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: that we in innately we're loving people. You know, we

602
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: are we are forgiving people, right, Uh just its innately

603
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: and historically we are forgiving people. And this is why

604
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: we always and we are We feel like everything should

605
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: be fair. Right, We're like, this is why we take

606
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: on a lot of people's causes that don't take on

607
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: our corpins. We see something happen to happening to another

608
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: race or another group of people, and that they never

609
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: fought for us, they never stood up for us. But

610
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: we just that's not fair, that's not right. We just

611
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: automatically waving their flag. We're just we're just riding for him.

612
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: That is because we we got this concept that things

613
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: are supposed to be fat. No, look, it ain't about fatness.

614
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: It's about bending another person to your wheels, bending them

615
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: to your weird What is it that you want? What

616
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: is it that you need? They must comply. Ain't no

617
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: other and the ain't no asking. Stop asking people and

618
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: power to share power. They're not going to share it power.

619
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: They didn't act for to share the power. They went

620
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: and took it. So you gotta take power if you want.

621
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: But everybody, everybody is not going to make it. Some

622
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: some black people out they are poking up. They look

623
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: black on the outside, but they're hite on the instide.

624
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: And but they can get by a lot of times

625
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: because what we would do. And it's some of them

626
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: that are only social media platforms who are masquerading like

627
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: social warriors. They are here acting like they're really for

628
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: the people, but they really not. And this is how

629
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you can recognize. This is the easiest way to recognize it.

630
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: If your criticism of the black community outwhere your contribution

631
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: you want. It's a whole lot of them. All they do,

632
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: all they do is touched it about black people. Oh,

633
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: they might throw you off a little bit. This is

634
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: what's confusing, because this is what they'll do to get

635
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: you on that side. They'll be like, they'll say a

636
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: couple of things that's true that everybody agreed to, Like

637
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: all people say, yeah, that's uni universally that's true. For instance,

638
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, black people need to they need to stop

639
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: with the black on black crime. Everybody. Yeah, man, that

640
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: is I got a poem that too. Yeah, that's probably

641
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: that's probably everybody like, yeah, yeah, right, um, yeah, well,

642
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: well you know that there's a lot of you know,

643
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: uh black people that uh that uh, you know, selling

644
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: dope and we gotta stop selling dope while you sell

645
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: dope and get more when over jail. Oh yeah that's right,

646
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: Y's stop. Yeah man, yea, that is true. That is true.

647
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: And then they go so they'll go light. They'll go

648
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: light on a few things that are right at a

649
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: universally right that nobody can dispute. And then they go

650
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: pop heavy on throwing black people under the textbook Candice

651
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: Bns textbook, Step and a skin textbook far all of them.

652
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: They go top heavy on their criticism of the black community.

653
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: They say something that's right, they might say, well not

654
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: at all back, and then they start and after that

655
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: they start generalizing. But we need to do better as

656
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: a people. A big part of it is that we

657
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: gotta get used to uh destroying, equistrating those coping nuts

658
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: because the fairy thing was we gotta be okay and

659
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: getting rid of and also the book of nuts who

660
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: are going around shooting about making a neighborhood. I say,

661
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: for the women and the children, their motherfucker's got go to.

662
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: And some of them are my family members, fuck them,

663
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: some up my from up from of them I do

664
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: up there, fuck them, they got to go. The motherfucker's

665
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: got to go. They're making my job that much harder

666
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: every every day that will be allowed him to be

667
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: comfortable in the neighborhood and this ride through and be

668
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: dangerous in the neighborhood is it is still as I fight,

669
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: I overall fight. It makes harder for us. It's like

670
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: imagine if you were in a box, the rain and

671
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: your and your appointment was in the front of you,

672
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: and you were throwing punches and ship and the motherfucker

673
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: behind your heads behind you. That's that that motherfucking come

674
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: thenother you can see him because you know what you

675
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: are about this. This is your announced the point right

676
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: his motherfucker And I'm setting up with the band you

677
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: but you got to feel don't want touches over Eve.

678
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: You got this, you know, like you know. So that's

679
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: what it's like, you know, being you know and in

680
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: this space that we're in. You know, sure if we

681
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: do not care for Will, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you,

682
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: those white boys ain't playing it. They all here in Camelfornia, man,

683
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: they're in the mountains. They gathered up their guns. They

684
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: got their six year old daughter to the other shoot.

685
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: They got their nine year old fund in the other shoot.

686
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: And you know what we're doing. We're down here on

687
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: the internet playing with each other, talking about each other,

688
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: playing and playing and playing around while they up there

689
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: getting ready and making cick top dance challenges and ship

690
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: and video terk and shaking our ass all that old ship. Yeah,

691
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: we're down playing and they up there really getting ready.

692
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: They got compounds where they don't put together, they got

693
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: food stored up, they got water. They're getting ready for something.

694
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: And we're out here playing. If we're not careful. And

695
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: another thing, we're not looking at I was reading something.

696
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: They were talking about this private prison. They were up

697
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent last year and made nine eight million

698
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: dollars one prison, one prison. It's the new slavery because

699
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: if they can take if they can take Monston, they

700
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: can take months Ton and James Son, hey Son, Brad

701
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Soon and put in the prison. There are assets. They're

702
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: looking this assets now we are being traded and I

703
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: don't even know. It's just so much stuff. We all

704
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: don't want to gonna change him. It's so much stuff

705
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be mad about, that we should know about,

706
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: but we're not seeing nothing. We had a guy on

707
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: this show that um he was born cats out here

708
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: on the you know expenci Resurgeon. They put this man

709
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: in jail. They kept the stores open and lock them up.

710
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: They put that's kidnapping. You're not. You don't charge somebody

711
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: to something. You just come and grabbing us. Next day

712
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: something what is that called? We're doing our das the

713
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: day out here he was, he was, he was messing

714
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: with the money very much. Guess we've got to get

715
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: it together. Your come some music questions? You know my thing?

716
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Uh like no, we we try to conversate about about

717
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: other things than hip hop or whatever. One thing I

718
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: do want to say is something from that same background. Um,

719
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: we see a lot of ships that go down with

720
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: the youth today. It's hard to control, you know what

721
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm knowing they're rough down there where y'all

722
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: add especially where we are up in Chicago. Uh, from

723
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: where we come from in our background, you know. Uh,

724
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities wasn't presented to us, especially to

725
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: myself coming up you know whatever, why I started gang

726
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: banging and doing that route. Uh being the man that

727
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: you are today, you face whatever. How do y'all feel

728
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: about when people say do you feel responsible? But how

729
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: the youth turn out today because of them listening to

730
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: us and what we went through as artists. Yeah, on

731
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: a personal note, I feel like whatever criticism we get,

732
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: we need to get credit also. We need to get

733
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: credit for all of those all of those young black

734
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: people and and Tino, black Latinos and and even white

735
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: people who got it. We listened to our music and

736
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: got inspired and went out there and made something great

737
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: out of themselves. Like people love to talk about anything

738
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: that's wrong with the youth, They love a point at

739
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: rappers for for anything that's wrong. But when when their

740
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: kid is shining, when their kids get that, get drafted

741
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: into the NBA, NFL A, Major League Baseball or whatever,

742
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: when their kids become a lawyer, doctor, scientist, an entrepreneur,

743
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: they want to take all the credit. They look at me,

744
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: look at me, that that's me, that's me, that's me.

745
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: But but but when they when the kid comes become

746
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: a fucking junkie, uh killer, you know h they end

747
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: up in jail and they end up on the internet,

748
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: working and bending over and shipping all that old ship.

749
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: They want to blame that on rappers. Give me my

750
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: motherfucking credit. When your kid get that degree, also get

751
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: I want to if you're gonna give me, you're gonna

752
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: criticize me for the music. When the kids out there

753
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: sucking up, I won't create it. I won't up and

754
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: the rappers won't create it. When your kids are out

755
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: there doing great ship, we want our create its our ship.

756
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: Now I have been said that I do believe that

757
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: all of us, as arted, we have a responsibility, a

758
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: greater responsibility than I even knew. When I was making

759
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: the music. I really didn't understand how important. The message was.

760
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: All I knew is that we're gonna put some information

761
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: and instructions out here, information and influct you. I didn't

762
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: know that something that some of the things that I said,

763
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: uh would be would would actually uh not really benefit

764
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: the community. I was because but my whole thing was

765
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: always two uh, to be a voice for the voices,

766
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: to try to be that dude that would say the

767
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: ship and stand up to the powers that be get

768
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: at the bullet like everybody else scared do it. I

769
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: get him. You know what I'm saying, You're scared that motherfucker.

770
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I fight him, you know what, not just fight him

771
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: with his ass, you know what I'm saying. Like That's

772
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: always been my mentality. Like, so that's why I'm not

773
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: afraid of the government. I'm not afraid of police officers.

774
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not afraid of any gangster, anybody that

775
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: got a bunch of money or whatever, got goons or whatever,

776
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: because I operate with the understanding that anything that a

777
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: man can do to me, I can do to him,

778
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: and I will do it, you know what I'm saying.

779
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: And I've always but I'm I'm I'm a nice guy,

780
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: you know anybody that if you, if you really know me,

781
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: you know I'm a nice guy. I'm a good guy,

782
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I do believe that that's one of

783
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: the reasons when you still here to tell my story,

784
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: because I was shown favor because I have a good heart.

785
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: I was shown favor if I wasn't just a dusty

786
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: ass dude, you know, and if I was a dude

787
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: that just went in and just readab it on the community.

788
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I never gave back. I never tried to help anybody.

789
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: You know. I don't think I would be in a

790
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: position that I'm in today. But I said a lot

791
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: of good seeds and that and and that's the reason

792
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: why you know I'm still standing. You know. Well, I

793
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you because you mentioned the way you said.

794
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: I hope his ask you ain't playing. He would have

795
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 1: been a professional boxing hun. Yeah, but what I did,

796
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I did. I didn't have a few profiles, was that right, Yeah,

797
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: when you was out there, I had a shifty rector

798
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: that's three and one three one. But but the thing

799
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: the thing about it is this, man, uh, I just

800
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: started boxing too late. Like I think that when you

801
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: start boxing, you should be hungry, like like like like

802
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: literally hungry, right, like I ain't got when at the

803
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: house when you know, we ain't got this or whatever,

804
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: And I think you would come out like that and

805
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be more hungry. Like when I started boxing,

806
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: I was already into the money. When I professionally and

807
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I started walking professionally, I was already into the money.

808
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: I was always I was already making wrap money and

809
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: real estate money and stuff like that. So you know,

810
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: when I leave the gym, I'm not coming home because

811
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: to my girlfriend house and my some room and my

812
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: mama's basement or whatever. I'm coming home to a fucking mansion.

813
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a difference. It's a

814
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: big difference when you when you when you because because

815
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: boxing there's a blood sport, type of sport. When you

816
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: walk into the rain, you can lose your life, and

817
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: you know it in the back of your head, and

818
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: everybody like, not the funk would you do something like

819
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: that to do that? You know that. It's hard to explain,

820
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: but it's something think about whatever it is that really

821
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: gets you off, Well, they're really really excites you. That's

822
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: how That's how boxing was for me. It's exciting it's

823
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: like when you're walking into that ring and it's like

824
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: a warrior, you know, like ancient warrior, you know, room times.

825
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, uh, it's like, uh, You're walking

826
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: into the ring and people are looking at that thin

827
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: and this these people over here for this guy, these

828
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: people for this guy. You got people over here betting

829
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And you're walking into the ring

830
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: and you know that Chris guy is gonna try to

831
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: knock you out and your job is to is to

832
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: hurt him, and you know, and in the back of

833
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: your mind you're saying to yourself, I could actually die.

834
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm gon not walk out of this ring a lot.

835
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like, in a way, it's kind

836
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: of poetic at the same time, it's kind of sick.

837
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of six Ship but you know, like, uh,

838
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's boxing though. It was just something man.

839
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I I just I love the ship out of it.

840
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: And people that that that that do it, they know

841
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But everybody thought that I was

842
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna boxer when I wanted to Texas go to Lives Championship.

843
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: Everybody thought, Okay, he's naturally gonna become a boxer, and

844
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: and I was rapping around the same time. But I

845
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: realized that I was really good at rapp and I

846
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: was really good at boxing. The girls like rappers. The

847
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: girls like boxes. The girls you get a lot of

848
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: money wrapping, You can get a lot of money boxing.

849
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, when I get

850
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: through rapping, when I leave the studio or lead the stage,

851
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I ain't got no headaches. So that's how I chose

852
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: over boxing because I was like, long term, I had

853
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: Mohammad Ali in the back of my mind, like like

854
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: what had happened to him? And I didn't want to

855
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: be that dude. I remember here in New York City

856
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: one then and I saw I Ran Barkley and I

857
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: walked up behind him and I said, what's up? I

858
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: ran it? Uh? And he said uh he uh. He

859
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: looked back like in slow motion like this, he had

860
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: to turn his whole body and he was like, uh,

861
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: what's up? Will it d It's real story. Speech was

862
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: really slurred and he had his last fact was maybe

863
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe two years before that. When I started that condition,

864
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't want to be that dude,

865
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, right, that's a brutal sport. You know, y'all

866
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: got a new podcast coming up, man, right, Ghetto Boys

867
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: reloaded what we're gonna get on there? Man? We get

868
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: some more information and instructions. That's all we've ever been

869
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: about that, all that music that we did. It was

870
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: always okay, if we make a song and we finished, like, okay,

871
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: where's the information, where's the instructions? If we don't hear

872
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: the information, instruction like, go back to the grand board

873
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: information and instructions. So that's what we're doing now. So

874
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: this is more like a like an extension of other music,

875
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: but more better in the podcast format. And you know,

876
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: I got it. We got a few more minutes, man,

877
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: So I gotta touch on some music. If I ask

878
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: you the music questions do you do? Was gonna flood

879
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: my embox. You had wie d on there and you

880
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: ain't asking this a meth You know, how did you

881
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: because I've never heard this before, how did you get hooked?

882
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: Because you wasn't an original member of the Ghetto Boys

883
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: at first it was it was pretty red and it

884
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: was ready red juke box and Prince Unty c mm

885
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: HM and uh prencio se which is the hell of

886
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: a hell of a dude, you know, the hell of

887
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: a hell of a writer, underrated out of New Jersey.

888
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: So what happened was I signed to Wrap a Lout

889
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: as a solo artist. After I was there for a

890
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: few months. A couple of months, so I finished my

891
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: album and Jay came to me one night and he

892
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: was like, man, I got an idea, and what you

893
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: think about being a ghetto boy? And I was like, no,

894
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in a rude. I snapped

895
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: that ship out like I shot it down, real thing.

896
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be in the group. Man,

897
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't want be a group. And and I'm saying

898
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: this because I'm I'm an odd person. So I look

899
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: at stuff, I look at scenarios and what's most likely

900
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: to happen, and I move a lot on most likely scenarios.

901
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, if I joined the group,

902
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: most likely to happen, what's most likely happened is that

903
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna break up. It's gonna be allowed with a

904
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: lot of drama and ship like all of these groups

905
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: I've seen in the past. How you look at the

906
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: greatest groups, the Temptations, the Supremes, you know, Smoking Robinson

907
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: and the Miracles, all of them. You know, they broke up.

908
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, wrote was strong with all of them, broke

909
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: up and out. I don't like investing in something and

910
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: not doing the distance. Like if I funk with Jump

911
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: stuff with you, I don't. I don't understand that people

912
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: who put a limitation on large, I don't and that

913
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe in large to have the

914
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: inspiration day. So this is why I funked with to

915
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: this day. You know, like me and Jay, we don't

916
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: pick it like we used to. But if Jake called

917
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: me right now and said, well we won't what you

918
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: need to do, bro, I'm saying that's me, you know, say,

919
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: don't matter how much I give, but ha far alone,

920
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: that don't matter because anyboda. So so for me, you know,

921
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: so Ja came to me and he was like, man,

922
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, he was like he was trying to convince me.

923
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: And then I was like and then he was like

924
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: do it for me. I was like, somebody, they didn't

925
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: go to stoopid this ship, because that's that's that's simple

926
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: statement through it. For me, I could refuse because this

927
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: dude was investing in my dream. Nobody else in the

928
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: planet was doing it. Nobody else on the planet was

929
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: doing that. He was putting up the money. It's a

930
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: lot of people can cheer and and you know and

931
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: pop me up and all that ship. But you know,

932
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: he was gonna put the money up. He was putting

933
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: the money up. So when he said like that, I

934
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: was like, all right, and then I'm thinking the back

935
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: of my mind, you know, plus okay, that's two spects

936
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: instead of one. Right, So I wrote, uh, do it

937
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: like a geo? That was the first Getto Boys thronging room.

938
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: I won't do it like a geo? And I wrote

939
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: let ahobi U let a whole bie home. One of

940
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: my classes. You were like the Geo classes, But that's

941
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: one of the classes. When I wrote those two songs,

942
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: those was gonna be Geto Boys song. He asked me

943
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: to write hold on, I'm going too fast, let me

944
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: back up. Before he asked me to join the group,

945
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: he asked me to write for the group. M So

946
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna I wrote those two songs for the

947
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: new Geto Boys our with the old group. I wasn't.

948
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: He comes back to me and say, man, that's when

949
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: he come back to me and say, I don't know,

950
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: we can sow later. Man, I got this idea, why

951
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: don't you be you know what you think about being

952
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: to get Over boy? And that's right now now now.

953
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, I agreed to be in the group. And

954
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: uh because when he let his people listened to those

955
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: two songs, he was like, man, yeah, this is it

956
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: was going crazy or this is the direction we're trying

957
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: to take the group in because before that, you listened

958
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: to the Peri Curtist to Get Over Us album. You know,

959
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: you know it's you can see a kind of run

960
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: their feet type nine right exactly. They got the you know,

961
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the the hats on the gold chain black, you know

962
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of run DMC thing with Jay wanted to be

963
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: more authentic to Houston. He wants more authentic to the South,

964
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: like we got a different style. We we all we

965
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: all have basically the same plight, uh, but we have

966
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: Uh that's some cultural differences based on where you are,

967
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: what you can at the country you're head right, where

968
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: neighborhood you live in. That are something cultural differences and

969
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: Jay wanted to uh explore those differences. So that's what happened.

970
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: He wanted to I guess a better world would be

971
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: explore those differences. But he wanted to explore those differences.

972
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: And uh so when I come out with to do

973
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: it like a do you know I'm back like the

974
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: wether making trug. I'm in the stass and kicking ass

975
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: in the devil. No motherfucker live gonna stop me, so

976
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: funk when you goddamn posse, it's time to step on

977
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: some mother Yeah, fuck them. Hold coach, ain't playing our songs.

978
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: I want to know what the hell going on? I

979
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: meant that ship out like in New York j like

980
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: beat that motherfucker head because we're playing the ship. We're

981
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: playing all of this New York ship. We ain't never

982
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 1: hate we if it's ship is jam and we funk

983
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: with it. So we're playing New York ship while y'all

984
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: not playing ship. Give me more call ready and stuff

985
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: that I could ask. And the motherfuck New York is

986
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: well again. So let the ego sheet in. You know,

987
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: we all we we acknowledge that we recommend New York

988
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: is will be doing. But let the ship. Let the

989
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: ego she in. So with that song, that song, if

990
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: you listen to that song, that song was touched on

991
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: the whole, not your issues, and I just wanted to

992
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: touch on all the issues that uh that we relevant,

993
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: you know to trying to navigate through this life and

994
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: dealing with all the stuff that you the angst that

995
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: you deal with, you know, being inside of a black

996
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: buy you know, like black red is being this own,

997
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: not by the other folks, but its own. Uh. The said,

998
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: let me see, the black man the year is being

999
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: his own, not by the others, but its own. Uh

1000
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: damn the drawing the blank. But anyway, the bottom line

1001
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: was that I was saying that how black radio A

1002
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: lot of black radio stations at the time was not

1003
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: playing black black wrappers. It wasn't playing rap music. Man.

1004
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: It was like, no, that ain't cool, you know, like

1005
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: that's like a lot of clube wasn't playing rap music

1006
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: back then. A lot of R and D plays wasn't

1007
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: playing rap music. They probed it was black people just

1008
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: like in l A. I know this was happening in

1009
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: l A too. They were black people that used to

1010
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: pride themselves or not listening to rap music like to

1011
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: that they thought they it was almost like they thought

1012
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: that was special that they didn't listen to rap music.

1013
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: You know, they thought there was They thought it was

1014
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: some type of degree or some ship listening to rap music. Hey,

1015
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: here you go check this out. You know. So my

1016
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: eyehole thing was like, man, this ship right here, it's

1017
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: going to be the vehicle that drive us straight up

1018
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: by the poverty. And so anybody that get in the

1019
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: way of this journey if they're gonna get red in

1020
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: the funk over. We had DJs who would not play

1021
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: the music. So you know, I was like an original

1022
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: rap lot doing walk up to the DJ, Yo, man

1023
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: play the song. I don't know. I mean, I can't

1024
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: play that. You know, I can't play this is all

1025
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: right because I can't play that. Man, get fined and

1026
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: you want to get fired, you like, you want to

1027
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: lose your job and you want to lose your teeth.

1028
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: It's simple broke, Like I'm serious. Like so a lot

1029
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: of people don't even understand that they eating because of

1030
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 1: the efforts that we put it in. Like, we really

1031
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: took some penitential chances to get this music played right.

1032
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: And I understand, you know, and I understand that that

1033
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: is music got that didn't really benefit the coaching, really

1034
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: set us bank and all that. But I don't believe

1035
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: that we ever made that type of music. I think

1036
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: if you listen to our kid objectively, you know, I

1037
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: think that you're gonna get a whole lot more Uh,

1038
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, information and instructions to help you navigate through this,

1039
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: through this, through this, uh, this maze, this, this weird

1040
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: as s place that we live in. Then you then

1041
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: you would not Yeah, and you was responsible too for

1042
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: a big, major part group. You told bush with the

1043
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: rep right. Yeah, Well when Bushwick the Crate the Trip.

1044
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: Part about it is that me and bush Wood had

1045
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: got into a you know, u a situation, you know,

1046
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: and the Bill was already red rap a Lot and

1047
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: we got into that situation. So I come in later

1048
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: and signed the rapp a Lot. So we're really picking it,

1049
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: ang kick it or nothing like that. But he's around.

1050
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: He's ain't go around. So when we got ready to

1051
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: make the album, we go out to the ranch, Jay Ranch,

1052
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: and Bill is hanging out. Bill is in the car,

1053
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: he's in the van. We dropped out. He hanging out.

1054
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: We're going out to make the Ripe for the first time.

1055
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: The first day that we went to gonna make the Roocket,

1056
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: it's the same day that I met Brod. I met

1057
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: him on the first day that we got the record.

1058
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: M Hm, Jukebox, he he's gonna be in the group.

1059
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Me, Brad and juke Box as the

1060
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: three mcs and ready read the DJ. No, we wasn't

1061
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: gonna have nobody else in the group at all the day.

1062
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: But Bill is hanging out in the studio and about

1063
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: one day after the first day of recording, first a

1064
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: second day, juke Box get some information where some personal

1065
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: information that makes him make the decision that he, uh,

1066
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: he can't be in the group anymore. He don't want

1067
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: to be in the group. I think it was stuff

1068
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: situation about having a baby on the way or something

1069
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: like that. This music ship wasn't woken out, so he

1070
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: put the group. Mm hmm. So builders hanging out in

1071
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: the studio, get hanging out with a fart in lapping

1072
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: public end, Yes, the rhythm the weather without a pause

1073
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: and Lord and my Lover. He's rapping like that. You

1074
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: know when I look at him and a light come on,

1075
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: I say, man, I said, man, let's put Bush Week

1076
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: in the group. Everybody started laughing. I say, you see,

1077
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: that's what everybody else gonna do. They're gonna laugh until

1078
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: they hit this gangstad and shoot him the right. That's

1079
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: so I asked Jake if I write this form and

1080
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: he do with? Is he in the group? And Jay like,

1081
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: oh no, man, Bill, what you think? So Bill like,

1082
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can try. I took Bill

1083
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: into the kitchen, we said, at the breakfast table. I

1084
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: asked them some questions about it and stuff, and I

1085
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: embellished it with what I thought it might be like

1086
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: to walk in and shoes and I overside and ship.

1087
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: Three days later he recorded it. You know, he practiced

1088
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: it for three days and on that third day he

1089
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: recorded it and ship. After that it was on since now,

1090
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: if you listen to that first album, Bill is only

1091
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: on like four songs that he was moving. We had.

1092
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: It was under these strict time constraints, and we did.

1093
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: We got him in that just enough to textualize him

1094
01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: as a member of the group. And so uh, that's

1095
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: how he became with Bill recorded. He didn't even have

1096
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: a contract. That's crazy. He didn't. He didn't even have

1097
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: a contract when he recorded that album. But we we

1098
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: knocked that album out in ten days album to get

1099
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: the only song that we had already was. Uh, we

1100
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: had a shell of the scarf Face song. You know

1101
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: that song, scarf Face. We had a shell of that

1102
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: song and really ready put some stuff from popive and

1103
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: just took that thing out into the stats field because

1104
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: I was really with the Scarface. We heard them, because

1105
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: that's when he made the transition from his name being

1106
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: DJ Action the scar Face after that, right, but now

1107
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: now now he changed, He went acting the scarf Face

1108
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: when he went solo. Mm hm. After we did after

1109
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: we did the first album together, we did a remake

1110
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: put out in nineteen ninety with Rick Ruby. Yeah, that

1111
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: level album. Yeah, and then then it was the we

1112
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: Can't Be Stopped Alving. Actually is when he changed the name,

1113
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: because his solo came like a couple of months after

1114
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: the We Can't Be Stopped Alving. That's that's the album

1115
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: with the non trick Suner so his so so he

1116
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: came with a solo about two three months after that,

1117
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: and so that's how that happened. All right, Phyllis, let's

1118
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: pay some bills real quick. We'll be right back, yeah man, Yo.

1119
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: Definitely man our major major contributors to hip hop culture

1120
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: because I remember and it's crazy for me to say,

1121
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: because I ain't that much younger than you at all,

1122
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I literally grew up

1123
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: listening to the Ghetto boys, and when I listened to

1124
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: the Ghetto boys, I saw what the fifth ward was,

1125
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: and that was what hip hop being for me back then.

1126
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna keeping in Cleveland, right and so

1127
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm listening to get boys. My boys in the car.

1128
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: We slipped it like this, We all there, you know,

1129
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: got pistols in the car and everything. You know, you

1130
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I said, man, this is

1131
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: what Texas is like. When I heard in the w A,

1132
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, this is what Kelly is like. You

1133
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's what compan like. You know

1134
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it definitely gave you that that field. Man,

1135
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: I caught like to call it like it was a

1136
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: real visual to it, you know what I mean, animated

1137
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: eight know that better than anybody, because that that ship

1138
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: that he did was so fucking graphic, like like you

1139
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: could picture. He paid. He was he don't get enough

1140
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: credit for painting pictures. When he rapped. He paid pictures.

1141
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: You can see Chip you like walking with him like

1142
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: you were listening to his ship, you'd be like, if

1143
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: you think we all we all to do this at

1144
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: want to go, Well, you ain't try that one of

1145
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: the podcast dropping bro Money Day this Monday. Man, it's

1146
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: still heard that man. So what I want you to do? Man,

1147
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: we gotta we got a few people actually listening to

1148
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: this show. Man. So what I want you to do?

1149
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: I need all y'all to go out there right now.

1150
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: Go to all iTunes, go to Spotify, whatever your favor

1151
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: the platform meals, man, and find their new podcast man

1152
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: to get on boys, reloaded, get on board. Yes, indeed

1153
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: absolutely man. And we appreciate you, man, We appreciate Scarface.

1154
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: I think it's his phone tropped. He kept clicking out

1155
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: of clicking in man, But we appreciate your brothers coming

1156
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: on man. And I had to call I had to

1157
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: call Brad later when when when we get off, I

1158
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: hate em up and see what he up to? You know,

1159
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: that's that's here, you know how to tour with your

1160
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: ganger places. You know. You know that's Brad for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1161
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: you know. And and he going through it. I got told.

1162
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: I told another day man, I really can't say too

1163
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: much ship right now because you know you're going through it,

1164
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: so I can you know, like you know, yeah, you know,

1165
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: like all right, right, give him a little pass a

1166
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: little bit, little pass the ball. You wait till you

1167
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: get mother. I'm gonna be on his egg. That's right,

1168
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: that's the job always. Yeah, man, I know one thing, Will,

1169
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to get you all on here and

1170
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of music because people, you know,

1171
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: for the most part, you know your history, your brothers,

1172
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: and that's what I was telling change. Really, I said, man,

1173
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: these brothers got a lot of ship to say about

1174
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: issues that's going on. So you know what, we definitely

1175
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: got to have you back on his motherfuck again, dogs

1176
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: all were ain't enough, you know what I'm saying. I

1177
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: wanted to hear about how they came with the Mind

1178
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: Playing Tricks on Yeah, back to back in my cadil. Yeah,

1179
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: that's to me. I give you, I give you a

1180
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: long story shot from so Brad, My Mind Playing Tricks

1181
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: was a scar faced record, and initially Brad brought that

1182
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: song to the table. Brag heard is Brad was in

1183
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: the house with his grandmother and his grandmother his grandmother

1184
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: had misplaced something and she said, you know, what did

1185
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: I do with such such such And I can't finding

1186
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: my mind playing tricks something. So Brad Brad catching light

1187
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: bulk come on. So he writes a song, my mind

1188
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: playing tricks something. He wrote three verses. If you listen

1189
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: to the song Brad got to he's the only one

1190
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: that has two verses verses and Bill have one verse.

1191
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: I got one verse. He gave Bill his third verse,

1192
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: and I wrote my verse. So you know, if it

1193
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: was today, we probably just would have just used those

1194
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: three verses and said that's cool. But I grew up

1195
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: in an era where you write your own set. If

1196
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: you didn't write your own SIPs, he was a real roup.

1197
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: Write my own ship. I don't want this verse. I

1198
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: want my own ship and write my own ship. So

1199
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: that's how that came about. But you know, it was

1200
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: brilliant number one for Brad to come up with the

1201
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: song first and farmost it's not even it don't happen

1202
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: without his you know, without his his genius, it don't happen.

1203
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: And then it was double brilliant, brilliant for Jada say,

1204
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: I think this is a deal better ghetto boy out

1205
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: better director. You know, this is cool, but I think

1206
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: it'd be better if it was a gettle boy. And

1207
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 1: if you listen to it and you see that you

1208
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: hear the different you hear the different personalities each of

1209
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: us take you to a different place. You know you're

1210
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 1: hearing uh you know the parianalia you mean, uh, mental

1211
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: health infused. Uh that that's a there's a certain amount

1212
01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: of uh uh this this longerty that you hear that stuff.

1213
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is laced throughout that song, and

1214
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: you get it and it takes you to different levels.

1215
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: So uh, when we did the song, James, I, I

1216
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: just did the song and left it alone. I didn't

1217
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: think the song. I had no idea of the song

1218
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: would even be close to doing it. I didn't think

1219
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: the song was a fucking great song. I thought it

1220
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: was a good song. But I also thought the other

1221
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: eleven songs on the album with good songs. Because when

1222
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: I make music, when I write a song, I don't

1223
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: try to write hits. I try to write classes. I

1224
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: just try to write a song that you're never gonna forget.

1225
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: So the consumer decides what's gonna be a hit based

1226
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: on based on stairs. I got control of what's gonna

1227
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: be a classic by what I put into that song,

1228
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: pour into the song, I decide if it's gonna be

1229
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: a classic or now. So that's all I do with

1230
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: every single song. I just pour into it. Whether I'm

1231
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: talking about you know, riding on what I'm saying, the

1232
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: k k k uh, my mind's playing tricks on me.

1233
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: Uh hey, watch having the ball it hold? You know

1234
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm gonna pull everything into that song

1235
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make it a classic. That's the way

1236
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: I operate, right. So I didn't know the song was

1237
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: gonna do what it did. I just got I did

1238
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: the song and left it alone and kept moving forward.

1239
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: And then we we did our when we did I

1240
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: test run, but we when we let people listen to

1241
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: the songs and they decide which ones they like. Everybody

1242
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: was like, well, I like the whole album, yeah, but

1243
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: you point you like the most. It's hard if you

1244
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: had you from the pick and it was a life

1245
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: of that situation, which one of these songs that you picked,

1246
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: and everybody kept going back to my playing trick. And

1247
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: even then I didn't think it was a great song.

1248
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, with that's where we're going with that? Cool?

1249
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: Because I I do a song and I don't care

1250
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: how good he is. I started focusing on me. I

1251
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: got I don't like really just bask and you know,

1252
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: arrest on my lords. So I just kept it moving.

1253
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: And then next thing, you know, man, they said it

1254
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: to radio man, and we didn't have to go through

1255
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: the whole that regular process of going through the mix

1256
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: and getting added and this is that nothing. It was

1257
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: like day one. Picky spans a week on every radio

1258
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: station across the nation, and and they played it for

1259
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 1: six months straight that that That song was called a phoner.

1260
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: It's what it's called a phone radio. A phoner is

1261
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: a song that make the phone ring a lot the phone.

1262
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: And every song that you if that phone ring, it

1263
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: was more than likely people are acquinting to request that song.

1264
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: That's a phone And I'm gonna tell you something that

1265
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: was crazy about that song. And you didn't have a

1266
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: hook on it, right, I didn't have a hook. He

1267
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: was just there. I mean we didn't. We weren't really,

1268
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: We wasn't really big on hooks back then and our

1269
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: day though, we really weren't. We just just put the

1270
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: song out, just put the verse out, talk to the people,

1271
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: and keep it moving. To the next. I'm not trying

1272
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 1: to think about no hook to keep you happy or whatever.

1273
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna tell you something to describe

1274
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,839
Speaker 1: what's going on, and we're gonna keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah, feeling.

1275
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: It's a feeling with whether you put us hook in

1276
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: the song or not, the words, whether you put because

1277
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: it has it is a hook. The music is the hook,

1278
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: but it's but it's a it's a feeling, whether you

1279
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: put lyrics in that space or not. And so we

1280
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: got a few songs like that, uh one stuff. Man,

1281
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: he's just you know, you looked at them. It's almost

1282
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: like a songs the melody actually talks to you. The

1283
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: music speaks. It's like it's talking. It's like the music, guy,

1284
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: like the music come alive. The melody comes alive. It's

1285
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: talking to me. And that's a that's that's what I

1286
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: mean by the melody coming alive and actually talking to you. Yeah,

1287
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: that was that was That was then all time class man.

1288
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: It was a classic. And Will just got one more question,

1289
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: are we giving you more with you the albums? Man?

1290
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: You know, I like to really do something because you know,

1291
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: once an artist, always an artist. I don't care what

1292
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: eight say. He canna always do artist and he always

1293
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna really been the back of mynd. I want to

1294
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: do one more, you know I should, That's gonna always

1295
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: been on your mind. So I for me, For me,

1296
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, as much as I want

1297
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: to be one, and I got some great ideas, but

1298
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't want it to fall on deaf ears. You know,

1299
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to just go in and make an

1300
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: album because doesn't cost money, and it costs. It costs money,

1301
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: and it costs time to make these records, and I

1302
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: don't want to just make do something like that. I

1303
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: don't want to just make a record just the chips

1304
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: and give us I want if I make the record,

1305
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: I spend my time and my money and my effort.

1306
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: I want people to hear it. And we're in a

1307
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: we're in a We're in an age right now where

1308
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: favor is not given to the best stuff. I feel like,

1309
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: I do believe that that this generation is the first

1310
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: generation of music lovers who are not going to experience

1311
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: the best that that generation has to offer. Now, they're

1312
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna have thumbs experiences. You know, there's always gonna be

1313
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 1: a few artists, but there's always gonna be stun But

1314
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot of artists in this generation don't want to

1315
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: play the game. They got good stuff. They don't want

1316
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: to do moble wrap. They don't want to be mindless stuff.

1317
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: They don't want to. They don't want to. They don't

1318
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: want to talk about killing black men. They don't want

1319
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: to do that. So they they might make music and

1320
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: they just make music at home, or they're just gonna

1321
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: get a job someone and just say fucking you know,

1322
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing this, you know. And so

1323
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: even even on the R and B side of things,

1324
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, uh, they don't want to make music because

1325
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the R and B artists ain't really

1326
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: talking about nothing. They there's no substance. So a lot

1327
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: don't want to play the game. They just don't want

1328
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: to play the game. So I believe that when we

1329
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: came out, if you was dope, when you was just

1330
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: a dope, ask MC, it was gonna be hard if

1331
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 1: you cant get on, If you were spoken and returning

1332
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: to get up on, you're gonna be able to get

1333
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: in front of somebody and then he was gonna get

1334
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: put on. Now not so much, they're like you'd be like, yes,

1335
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: saying something you doke, you're saying some do and they'd

1336
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, man, but ship man, you ain't. You

1337
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: ain't killed with old people in the song man I

1338
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: need who he raised you by the count. Yeah, you

1339
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: said you ain't sipping. You ain't popping enough pills or

1340
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: sipping enough. We do some ship you ain't got on

1341
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: enough choke chains or some ship. Something's going on. So

1342
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: why y'all don't get together the old school and y'all

1343
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: push something together and show these cats that you don't

1344
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: have to talk about murdering your people on the show

1345
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: and you're good goddamn party and so. But but but

1346
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: that that that's happening all around us. It's just that

1347
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: the people like us who talk that ship that's safe,

1348
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: why y'all won't do it? You know, we need to

1349
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: come out and do it. So they like, but we're

1350
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: not buying the records they just talked. They weren't by

1351
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: the records, and they're not going to the concerts. So

1352
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: it's not even sustainable for the artists to go out

1353
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: there and spend that money and spend that time. Because

1354
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: the people like us, we talk a lot of ships

1355
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: our generation, we always talking ship, but we don'ta back

1356
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: it up. Our ask is we're gonna we we get

1357
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: ready to listen to me. We're gonna going there, put

1358
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: us off from them down. C D. Stick that ship

1359
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: in the car. You're gonna be looking for somewhere to

1360
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: play the damn CD. You you gotta you got a

1361
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: CD player in your car? You okay, come on, come on,

1362
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: come on, you know, because they already think they got

1363
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: the PST music. They don't think any better music can

1364
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: ever be made again. So we already got that music,

1365
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: and they're not buying records, they're not buying the screen. Yeah,

1366
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: a few people do it, but it's not enough people

1367
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: that's doing it to make it feasible or eating for practical,

1368
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: for artists to going there and spend that kind of

1369
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: time and money and resources. It's it's not there. It's

1370
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: too big of a risk, right, It's too big of

1371
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: a risk. So that's why a lot of artists just

1372
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: gon't do it. For me, I'm at a I'm at

1373
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: a stage in my life where time is everything to me.

1374
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: I have to it. I look at everything that I

1375
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: do based on quality. Okay, I got this so much

1376
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: time and a back. I'm gonna spend this much time

1377
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: throwing into my businesses. I'm gonna spend this much time sleeping.

1378
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend this much time if I if I

1379
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: get a break, I'm gonna shoot over here and gonna

1380
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: see my aunt at the conversacing home, or sit on

1381
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: the porch with my brothers and drink have a drink

1382
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: or something, or you know, I'm a hang out with

1383
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: this this woman, you know, for a moment or whatever,

1384
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: and then I'm back at it. It was like if

1385
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: if I'm, if I'm and when it comes it's like

1386
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: like doing things that costs me to invest money. In

1387
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, how is this money gonna come

1388
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: back to me? If I go fit me out there

1389
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: for it to be worth my time, I got the

1390
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: at least double upon it. I gotta leave it for

1391
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: they to be worth my time. So I'm I'm not

1392
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: doing it like that, like I gotta get it back,

1393
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: Like how I'm gonna get this money back, any money

1394
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: that I put out, any money I put out. I'm

1395
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 1: looking at how do I get this money back? You know,

1396
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: if I get on the tree, if I get on

1397
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: the plane and I go to l level for ten

1398
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: days and I spent fifteen twenty racks. I gotta I

1399
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: gotta know while I mean I'm there, that I got

1400
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, uh thirty or farty rack coming in while

1401
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm out there. I'm not gonna just I'm not going

1402
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: backwards brough, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the backwards

1403
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: days is over with long Well, man, we appreciate your

1404
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: big dog and we definitely gonna have you on here again, man,

1405
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: because you are so first issues. I follow you on

1406
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: social media. Man, I'm a big fan and I saw

1407
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: maybe and a lot of people don't know will you

1408
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: was on this podcast stuff early? Right right? You use

1409
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: on the podcast thing early? You know what the trip

1410
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: part about it? And I'm gonna say this, this is

1411
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: important for people to hear. When I first got on

1412
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: the podcast and the podcast space was ninety of what

1413
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: was was twenty uh seventeen, I think seen and no

1414
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: other artists who had names like who was branded was

1415
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: on doing in that space? Right? And when I got

1416
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: into that were the detractors, the haters, the ones who

1417
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: don't really want to see you win. They were making

1418
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: us slot comments like yeah, how you go for me?

1419
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: And ghetto boys to do who drew and fun of it, right,

1420
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: But I saw a vision. I was like, this is

1421
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: the future, Like this ship right here, this ship is

1422
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: the future. And I was like, I'm for the jumping

1423
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: this ship right now. So I had to put my

1424
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: heart line his own and do it just like this here.

1425
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: And I'm starting come around at boom boom boom. You know.

1426
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: Uh So I was like building it at that time,

1427
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing it growing. And then I get to

1428
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: a point where I get it to six figures a month.

1429
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: And now a little bit later, okay, you got the

1430
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: pandemic hit. Then all of a sudden, artists, ball playing,

1431
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people that make spotty income started getting

1432
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: into that space. But I already had like a three

1433
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: or four year jump on it. I was already here.

1434
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: So now now it's cool to your YouTube. It's cool

1435
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: to have a YouTube channel, you know, it's cool to

1436
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: be in the podcast space. That's cool ship now. But

1437
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: when I first started doing it, you know, you had

1438
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: some people that try to attach a stigma to it, right,

1439
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: But I've always been the kind of dude I've been.

1440
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: I've never been afraid to diversify. I've never been afraid

1441
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: to invent myself and so, uh, you know when I

1442
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: make these moves, I just look at it like I'm

1443
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: always like trying to play long ball? What's the long ball? Like?

1444
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: How do I how do how do how do I

1445
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: make this thing work long term? And and and keep

1446
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: it going? So when you when you when you're trying

1447
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: to do something, especially anybody that is doing something right now,

1448
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: trying to get something going. You got something going and

1449
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 1: it's popping, and all of a sudden, these sucker Hayden

1450
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: fun Boys come out of nowhere trying to attack you.

1451
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: They're attacking you out of jealousy. They won't your spot.

1452
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's that always staying like lines don't really

1453
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: pay a lot of attention, you know, right, like the

1454
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: kittens right there, fucking kitten. You know, the lion is

1455
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: moving forward. We don't even think about these kittens behind us,

1456
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: But if they get close enough, I will by the

1457
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: by the patch of meat at your ass, you're closing.

1458
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: But a lot of these casts, but they know that

1459
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: and they try to They use the Internet like the

1460
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: Internet is like like like the new phone. Right, the

1461
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: Internet is like remember back in the back in the

1462
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: day on the phone. Somebody want to talk ship they call.

1463
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: Y'all know, I'm gonna kick your ass. You don't know

1464
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: this up is but he won't. But he won't. He won't.

1465
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: You We meet man's ups up and you you felt

1466
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: around fall asleep waiting on this spool, you know. But

1467
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: that's how the internet is. Man. Whole bunch of buster

1468
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: is a bunch of suppers who stay things that they

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Speaker 1: would never say to a man's face. But but if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be in this space, you gotta put your

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Speaker 1: blinders on and then and get what you want, what

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: you gotta get out of Yeah, the show, because you

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Speaker 1: man predate everybody. Man. And again, we appreciate having you

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Speaker 1: on here, big dog. Absolutely, I appreciate you, man. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate what y'all doing with this game's chronical. I mean

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: when y'all first started doing it, you know Dangs was

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Speaker 1: when he was doing it great on the regular. I

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: remember when the first started popping off, and uh, I

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01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they got something like that, they got

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Speaker 1: something like that, yeah, man, And what to come into

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Speaker 1: the games chachronical? I came in U what about h

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Speaker 1: last year? I started in Yeah here and it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Is this this is how that happened. I'll tell you.

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: When you had a guy, you know, we had another personnel,

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Speaker 1: remember that has some issues, right, And um, I was

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01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: talking to eight earlier. You know he came on the

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Speaker 1: show and I would actually talked to James. I said, man,

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Speaker 1: it would be kind of tight. And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you what James said. I said, James, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about having eight on here? James let me like this?

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01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: He said, he was cool. I gotta think on it, though,

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01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: gonna be on no gag baby ship because I'm positive

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Speaker 1: I don't want no gang bangers to I didn't like

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Speaker 1: that because at that point then he had no conversations, right,

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Speaker 1: and so I knew I was only something though, right

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01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: because me and was talking about it in the pandemic

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Speaker 1: should happen, then this cat that I knew it was

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01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: going to carry his ass wand up tearing this as

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Speaker 1: I'm like you will you think like me? I think

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Speaker 1: ahead of time when somebody go do something, because they

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01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: tell you what they're about to do all the time

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01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: without saying the word. You just gotta look at him.

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01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: So I said, man, this might be about the time

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Speaker 1: to activate their point with ay. So I talked to

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01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: James about and James said, yeah, you know he was

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01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: with it right. You want to see how I go.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you. We was talking to Charlotte Magne,

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01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne and started. That's when everybody was calling us.

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01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: Then we had every podcast networking was calling us at

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: one time. We went and took some of them bulls,

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01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: some of the means with bullshit. Someone was cool, um,

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Speaker 1: But when Charlotte Mane was talking, He's said, man, I

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: just think y'all need one more dude on there, but

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01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: y'all need like an artist. And I said, what artists

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01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: you think about? And I'm thinking he gonna say somebody

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Speaker 1: just corny, right, He said, man, I think m c

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01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: a to be cold the motherfucker on there too with y'all.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I just smiled. I said I had

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Speaker 1: already thought of it, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: it was wound up, and it wound up working another

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01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: wound up being some good ship. Man. We were honestly unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: really unfortunately. And one thing I always give James his problems, man,

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01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: because James has been consistent from day one. Another thing

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Speaker 1: to me. It was all about the gamest chronicles. It

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01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 1: was all once I started talking and got used to it,

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Speaker 1: and I seemed the fact that it had on other people.

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Speaker 1: Then I said, this is where I need to be.

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Speaker 1: This is about purpose. So we had did a show

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: with A and the came on one episode and I

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: gravitated to his vibe. He was, okay, hey, it's cool.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know him because I had this this this

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Speaker 1: perception I ate men like first I thought he was

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Speaker 1: talk Okay, you own this game, bank and ship. Let's

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Speaker 1: see how I go in the in the in the Uh.

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Speaker 1: When we do the interview, it went well. So I

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Speaker 1: told Noe, man, I don't know if I could take him.

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Speaker 1: Just just just said town and then uh, I'm just

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Speaker 1: I mean we black people. I said I could work

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Speaker 1: for him, and I could work with anybody else, but

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01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: I would work with A. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: We made it happen. Ye You've right right. It's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Stee man, y'all will do some big ship with y'all

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01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: show we have the Charlotte Magne was telling me about it, man,

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01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: and I said, when he first got I said, man,

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Speaker 1: he's been making some moves and I told him, I

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Speaker 1: said it was smart man, and man, you know you

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01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: neednt thing from us, big Dog is oll. I appreciate it,

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01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: and thanks for inviting me on man to talk about

1549
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 1: you know, life and uh and also give a shout

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01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: out to the podcast. I appreciate you all, sure. And

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01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: we also got it. On another note, bro, we got

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01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: a radio show to come on every Friday night. That's

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01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: we alradio. We're in front of think five million people

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: some ship like the Living stations across southern California. So

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01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean you might want to put some music out, Dog,

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01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: so you got out let me ut you that's beautiful.

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01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That's it. That's very important man, that y'all,

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01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: that y'all you know, coming back and grabbing that space

1559
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: man like, and not because it's it's like it's it's

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: it's guys that that are like us that helped build

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01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: this landscape or whatever. And you know, we really didn't

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01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: know what we had, you know, we so we didn't

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Speaker 1: really take advantage of some of those opportunities. So it's

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01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: always good to see people come back and be able

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01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: to you know, basically kind of like capture that lightning

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01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: in the bottle, so to speak, and and and get

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Speaker 1: some of this, uh, some of this, some of this,

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01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: uh this culture that that that we help cultivate. M hm, Well,

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Speaker 1: it ain't too late. It ain't too late if we all,

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: if we all start working together and doing what we

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01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: gotta do, doing what we said we want to do. Man,

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01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: we put that together. We got something. Yeah, it ain't

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01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: too late for for you. Me I learned it ain't

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01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: too late for none of us to really get out

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01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: and do what we really want to do our passion. Yeah,

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01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: absolutely help our people. So it ain't never too late

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01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: for us to put our ears together and do something now.

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01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now and is where this

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01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: is when we need it the most now, right, So

1580
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: we together, let's do what we gotta do exactly. We

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01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: ain't scared for all all listeners out there. And make

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01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: sure you know we don't put the full episodes on

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01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: YouTube no more, so stop asking me about it. Go

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01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: to pot TV, go download the pot TV. After Lincoln's

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01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: description and we out of here. Well, that concludes another

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01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download

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01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: the I Heart Apple subscribe to the Gainst Chronicles podcast

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Speaker 1: screening your phone, Subscribe to the show, leave for comment

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Speaker 1: and a rating. Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles of

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01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M c taylor. Our

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01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: visual media directors Brian Watt, shows audio editors Taylor Hayes

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01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. Here's the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Media. Any questions to comments

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01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: hit us up against the Chronicles Podcasts at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Peace be safe out there.