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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, Everybody. This is Native Lamb Pod. I'm
Speaker 3: Angela Raie. I'm with Andrew Gillim and Tiffany.
Speaker 4: You're gonna do what you're gonna do. Every week.
Speaker 3: This is our mini pod and we are so so
Speaker 3: thrilled to have our sister, our friends joining us fresh
Speaker 3: on the other side into liberation and freedom. Marylynd Moseby,
Speaker 3: former Baltimore City States Attorney, a legend in her own right,
Speaker 3: advocate for the people and also a local host committee member,
Speaker 3: really our chair for the State of the People General
Speaker 3: Assembly just last week, Maryland.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the show again, Marylyn.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's so good to see
Speaker 2: everyone on the other side of liberation.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we glad that you liberating. You look really good, Marylynd.
Speaker 5: I was looking at you, say up, you look gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Thank you to me. You always do. I'm just telling
Speaker 2: her she is channeling the Billy Holliday. I think her
Speaker 2: coming to Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Something I'm down and making, and it's so well outside
Speaker 5: of making and one of those black towns I was
Speaker 5: telling y'all about, and it's so hot down here, and
Speaker 5: I had blown out my hair, and this morning I
Speaker 5: watched it because it was so hot and human. And
Speaker 5: now I'm looking at how gorgeous you and Angela look
Speaker 5: and how Andrew always looks, and I'm like, I should
Speaker 5: have kept myself together.
Speaker 4: Listen, I didn't hear what neither one of y'all said.
Speaker 6: One of y'all going marl.
Speaker 2: No, I said, I love it.
Speaker 7: She looks beautiful, and I said, was ninety three degrees
Speaker 7: at ten o'clock this morning, So yeaht.
Speaker 5: Grateful for the humidity and no makeup though, So I
Speaker 5: will say that feels I barely put lotion on my
Speaker 5: face this morning.
Speaker 4: That yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say that. People don't want
Speaker 4: to hear about.
Speaker 3: Me, Well I want to if you can, Maryland, talk
Speaker 3: about how you're feeling. You had to serve a sentence
Speaker 3: for something you didn't do, which we've talked about at
Speaker 3: nauseum on this show.
Speaker 2: And even though just.
Speaker 3: True to form, the things are beeping to support what
Speaker 3: we're saying, and we're so grateful Andrew for all of that. Backup,
Speaker 3: But Marylyn I'd love to hear from you on how
Speaker 3: you're feeling now.
Speaker 2: So Angela, first and foremost, I'm just I feel so
Speaker 2: much gratitude. I think, you know, God has been so
Speaker 2: good to me and my girls. He has covered us
Speaker 2: through the midst of this storm. And I say it
Speaker 2: all the time and every sort of speech or any
Speaker 2: sort of acknowledgment that I can. You know, unfortunately, a
Speaker 2: lot of people in my life that I thought would
Speaker 2: be there for me weren't. And that was also part
Speaker 2: of the largest of divine plan. You know, before God elevates,
Speaker 2: he separates in and exposed those the hearts of the
Speaker 2: individuals that aren't really for you. But by the same token,
Speaker 2: I feel so much gratitude because He did send Earth
Speaker 2: angels into my life where you know, they were able
Speaker 2: to pour into me and my girls in a way.
Speaker 2: And I have to acknowledge that. I have to from
Speaker 2: the bottom of my heart acknowledge and appreciate you. You know,
Speaker 2: I got to say, Angela, I was drowning. You gave me,
Speaker 2: You threw me a lifeline when I didn't even think
Speaker 2: I could make it, Like you know, financially, spiritually, emotionally, psychologically, reputationally.
Speaker 2: They tried to break me on so many different levels
Speaker 2: and make an example out of me for what I
Speaker 2: stood for. I had absolutely nothing to do with anything
Speaker 2: that I did wrong. You know, I withdrew my own
Speaker 2: retirement savings that I put away every two weeks to
Speaker 2: buy property that was the extent of what I was
Speaker 2: accused of. And having to fight the federal government. You know,
Speaker 2: it was really difficult. I lost everything. I lost my marriage,
Speaker 2: I lost my career, I lost my house, I lost
Speaker 2: my car. You know, it was my home. It was
Speaker 2: a lot, and so many you know folks that I
Speaker 2: thought again would be there weren't, but you were. And
Speaker 2: I just want to please acknowledge this woman right here
Speaker 2: who fights for the people so many different levels, and
Speaker 2: she's seeing this black woman in need. And I just
Speaker 2: got to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. Angela.
Speaker 2: You have no idea. You use your platform to elevate
Speaker 2: the circumstance. And it was thanks to you. We had
Speaker 2: a national campaign and you know, organizations signed on Black
Speaker 2: Win with black women, and you know, the Congressional Black
Speaker 2: Caucus and sixty attorneys and Ben Crump, and you know,
Speaker 2: it started with you.
Speaker 6: Over one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand people signed that petition. You know, Angela
Speaker 2: had she delved into my case and if you would
Speaker 2: have seen her her living room, she had no books,
Speaker 2: and you know, she got down to the nitty gritty.
Speaker 2: And I'm so incredibly grateful. So when you say how
Speaker 2: do I feel in this moment, I feel so much gratitude.
Speaker 3: I love to hear it. I just I want to
Speaker 3: I do this all the time. It's important to me
Speaker 3: to just acknowledge, Tiff and Andrew did not hesitate when
Speaker 3: we talked about bringing this to this podcast and getting
Speaker 3: a petition done. In all of that, and to our
Speaker 3: professional development program students, all of the work they did
Speaker 3: on graphics, on everything. But I really, you know, don't
Speaker 3: want to necessarily take you back there. I think it's
Speaker 3: so important to talk about the road ahead and in
Speaker 3: that Andrew, you've seen this yourself. Marylyn is just getting
Speaker 3: out of this and now facing another thing. So Marylynd,
Speaker 3: if you could talk about kind of what you're up
Speaker 3: against and how folks are coming at you now that
Speaker 3: you you know, you feel like you're in the clear,
Speaker 3: then cut the bracelet off. You're not being monitored no
Speaker 3: longer a curfew and now that.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, it's constant a battle, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things that they attempted to do while
Speaker 2: I was you know, right now, we're still waiting for
Speaker 2: the Fourth Circuit to make a decision on my appeal,
Speaker 2: and we feel really great about the appeal. However, that
Speaker 2: argument was in January. We're still waiting and it's still
Speaker 2: looming and it can come any day. The government was
Speaker 2: attempting to take my house and to take my law
Speaker 2: license before the appeal was even exhausted, and the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court in Maryland basically said that you cannot do that.
Speaker 2: So it's been a constant struggle in a battle that
Speaker 2: we won temporarily until this appeal is ultimately decided. But
Speaker 2: as soon as you get you take one step forward,
Speaker 2: it feels like you're being pulled three steps back.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: My predecessor, well not actually he's the person who has
Speaker 2: come in after me. I would just say, I've in Bays,
Speaker 2: who's the newly elected state attorney, has used this opportunity
Speaker 2: to try to hurt me. He filed an attorney grievance
Speaker 2: against me on one particular case. You know, despite the
Speaker 2: thousands of cases that I oversaw that I didn't personally investigate.
Speaker 2: Really a shucking and driving. You know, we got those
Speaker 2: folks and tap dance and hold the water for the
Speaker 2: status quo. And that's essentially what's being done. So I
Speaker 2: have to now, on top of wait for the Court
Speaker 2: of Appeals decision to be heard to determine whether I'm
Speaker 2: going to keep my law license in my home. I
Speaker 2: now have to fight an additional battle, which is to
Speaker 2: defend myself in the ad non said case, which I
Speaker 2: believe I was right in making that determination. He has
Speaker 2: challenged my discretion and it has made an unprecedented move
Speaker 2: to fil an attorney grievance against me and the attorney
Speaker 2: who actually investigated the case. And so we are both,
Speaker 2: you know, again battling again on the affront to try
Speaker 2: to keep my law license in defense of that case.
Speaker 5: Because you brought up the said case one your successor,
Speaker 5: Ivan Bates. I'm curious why the focus and attention on you.
Speaker 5: I imagine the good people of Baltimore would like their
Speaker 5: tax dollars being used in resources on something certainly more pressing.
Speaker 5: I've known you, Maryland for over ten years now, I
Speaker 5: can assure the people of Baltimore you are not a fugitive,
Speaker 5: You are not a threat to society. You have certainly
Speaker 5: enhanced that city and your influence cast a wide shadow
Speaker 5: across the nation. So I'm curious if you have any
Speaker 5: thoughts on why he's so focused on you. Secondly, if
Speaker 5: you would, just for the benefit of our audience, give
Speaker 5: a little background on what the Sai case is and
Speaker 5: what the issue is since you since you brought it up.
Speaker 2: So anand Sayid was another one. I created the first
Speaker 2: conviction integrity unit in the entire state of Maryland where
Speaker 2: we did reinvestigations into claims of actual and I also
Speaker 2: had a sentencing review unit where we modified and reduced
Speaker 2: the sentences of juvenile lifers and the elderly prison population,
Speaker 2: where we released more than sixty individuals by modifying their sentence.
Speaker 2: I had an individual attorney that actually was a senior
Speaker 2: attorney at the Public Defender's Office, Becky Feldman, who came
Speaker 2: over and worked my sentencing review unit, and under her leadership,
Speaker 2: she actually reviewed the ad Non Sayid case. This is
Speaker 2: a case that dates very far back where he was
Speaker 2: wrongly if we believe after a thorough investigation that he
Speaker 2: was wrongly convicted of murder, and so we did our
Speaker 2: due diligence. We investigated the case and ultimately made a
Speaker 2: recommendation to vacate the conviction of ad Non said and rightfully,
Speaker 2: so we would argue, as you are aware, prosecutors, we
Speaker 2: exercised our discretion every single day, right, and thousands of cases,
Speaker 2: and this particular case is a high profile case. It's
Speaker 2: rather controversial. But when you are elected into these positions
Speaker 2: and as a leader, you have to make a decision, right,
Speaker 2: you stand on on the moral beliefs of what you're
Speaker 2: doing is right. And that's what we did. I got
Speaker 2: to say the mission of my office was justice over convictions. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you know, I think that the newly elected state attorney
Speaker 2: is playing politics just like Trump. Right. Unfortunately, he took
Speaker 2: advantage of the of the fact that I had this
Speaker 2: bogus investigation and looming criminal case hanging over me. He
Speaker 2: had run against me before and lost, but this time around,
Speaker 2: he won, and he ran on a platform of pretty
Speaker 2: much reversing everything that I had done in my office,
Speaker 2: progressive related and he did just that. So, now, when
Speaker 2: you ask why would someone do something like that, well
Speaker 2: he was, you know of the Fox forty five who
Speaker 2: was a local sort of fox station put two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars into my race to support him, right, And
Speaker 2: so why would he do that. He carries the weight
Speaker 2: of the status quo. And so unfortunately the people of
Speaker 2: Baltimore voted for this man, and just like Trump, they
Speaker 2: voted against their own self interest. So you get what
Speaker 2: you voted for. And so that's who he is. He's
Speaker 2: showing to be who he's always been.
Speaker 7: That's all rings so familiar, Maryland. But I just first
Speaker 7: got to say, you have breath in your body. Yes,
Speaker 7: you are yes on the other side, and you and
Speaker 7: I could talk one on one about the traumat the
Speaker 7: trauma of all of it, and how you get revisited
Speaker 7: by it, if not every moment of the day, every
Speaker 7: other moment of the day, you feel some reminder. But
Speaker 7: if I could just say, you and I both and
Speaker 7: maybe more than us, will have to work very hard
Speaker 7: to expel those voices that operate in our head that
Speaker 7: cause us to be curious about everything we do, how
Speaker 7: people feel about us, whether we're welcome to move in
Speaker 7: certain spaces or not. You're on the other side of it.
Speaker 7: But as you know, this trauma is certainly I hope
Speaker 7: it isn't, but it feels like it might be a
Speaker 7: lifetime wound that constantly has to be tended to in
Speaker 7: some way, and that maybe over time what happens is
Speaker 7: is that our our heart won't always feel like it's
Speaker 7: carried outside our body on our sleeves, that it won't
Speaker 7: impact us so severely as it did from the beginning
Speaker 7: as time passes by. I'll also just say this that
Speaker 7: the enemies who are again rising against you, and I
Speaker 7: wholly accept your description of this, of this new prosecutor,
Speaker 7: these folks, they don't The devil comes to kill and destroy, right,
Speaker 7: he comes to kill and destroy, And in fact I
Speaker 7: now begin to accept in that order.
Speaker 6: Right, they kill you, destroy you, kill you again, just
Speaker 6: to make sure you're dead. Right. My grandmother said they.
Speaker 7: Gonna kill you dead. I thought, like, hell, you're already dead. No,
Speaker 7: they're gonna kill you dead. So just be be aware
Speaker 7: that Tiffany said I think a little earlier that you're
Speaker 7: you know, you're not a threat, You're not this. I
Speaker 7: just want to reassure you remain a threat so long
Speaker 7: as you have breath in your body, and you are
Speaker 7: the woman of character that I came to know many
Speaker 7: years ago when you first got elected. You will continue
Speaker 7: to be a threat by how do we say, getting
Speaker 7: in good trouble, And I just want to admonish you,
Speaker 7: friend that I think I'm speaking to myself too. We
Speaker 7: have to not shrink from the gifts that God has
Speaker 7: given us to continue to operate in good trouble. And
Speaker 7: I think the beauty in that is that the same
Speaker 7: people who were attracted to you when they elected you
Speaker 7: for that fight, for that fierceness, those are gonna be
Speaker 7: the same champions who come riding and dying for you
Speaker 7: on this one. Lastly, the people who disappointed us by
Speaker 7: not showing up, I just want to and part of
Speaker 7: my process of releasing them was simply to say, everybody
Speaker 7: doesn't operate at the same level of freedom.
Speaker 6: As we think.
Speaker 7: Everybody that we thought was courageous and courageous, everybody who
Speaker 7: was running with us and acting like they were equals
Speaker 7: and equal to our hustle, were actually just pretenders and
Speaker 7: hangers on. And I think when we look at them
Speaker 7: sympathetically as I'm sorry I thought you were of sterner things,
Speaker 7: you're not let it go because you got too much
Speaker 7: work to do. The haters, detractors, they're there for a
Speaker 7: I acknowledge that. But you're here for a mission too,
Speaker 7: and I believe yours this greater and more powerful, more impactful,
Speaker 7: and just cheering and riding for.
Speaker 6: You because you deserve it. God got you here again
Speaker 6: because you deserve it, not stand in it.
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, I mean, I think,
Speaker 2: even looking to folks like yourself who were champions for
Speaker 2: our people and for our communities, and for justice right
Speaker 2: and for all people, and the way in which the
Speaker 2: status quo came for you, you know I've learned from it.
Speaker 2: And I say this all the time, what happened to me.
Speaker 2: I don't have any sort of bitterness in my heart.
Speaker 2: I have nothing but gratitude even for the haters right,
Speaker 2: because I've been able to delve and into deep, deeply
Speaker 2: within myself, and I'm a better person as a result
Speaker 2: of the experience you. I always say that you learn lessons.
Speaker 2: I learned lessons at rock bottom that peaks of mountaintops
Speaker 2: will never teach you. It required me to hit rock bottom,
Speaker 2: for me to lose everything, for me to open my
Speaker 2: eyes and to get back to myself, and I would
Speaker 2: love to take the credit for it, but I can't.
Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, I don't look
Speaker 2: like what I've been through because I'm divinely protected, just
Speaker 2: like you are divinely protected, just like Tip. It's divinely protected,
Speaker 2: right like no matter what they try to do, as
Speaker 2: you've already said, you know the gifts and the talents
Speaker 2: that God has given us, the devil will try to
Speaker 2: stop so that we don't understand and recognize our purpose
Speaker 2: and our greater purpose. And so I'm grateful for it
Speaker 2: all I've learned from all of you. I am so
Speaker 2: grateful for your support, and I've learned right, I've grown,
Speaker 2: so there's no reason for me to have any sort
Speaker 2: of animosity. But what I will also know knowing myself
Speaker 2: is that I will always speak truth to power, like
Speaker 2: I'm always going to tell the truth. And so if
Speaker 2: that ruffles fathers, then guess what so be it?
Speaker 4: Marilyn.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you. I'm writing about heartbreak right now,
Speaker 5: and I'm writing about a conversation that you and I
Speaker 5: had when you were going through all of this, and
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it now because I want
Speaker 5: people to re read it when it comes out. But
Speaker 5: I just I remember walking away thinking, man at her
Speaker 5: lowest point, she poured into me with a message that
Speaker 5: was so profound. But what I don't think that our
Speaker 5: that that society at large realizes, is when you're charged
Speaker 5: with something like this. Andrew, certainly you know firsthand it
Speaker 5: is not okay, you're found not guilty, or you have
Speaker 5: one year probation. It lingers with you financially, it lingers
Speaker 5: with you socially, and it was it kind of broke
Speaker 5: my heart. Hurt my heart to hear you say that, Andrew,
Speaker 5: that you have to think about am I welcome in
Speaker 5: certain spaces and how people might regard you. Any space
Speaker 5: Andrew ain't welcome. Let me just tell y'all that I'm
Speaker 5: not welcome. I ain't going right, But get y'all want
Speaker 5: to go. Yeah, any space Angelae and welcome, I'm not going.
Speaker 5: So I mean we move as community.
Speaker 2: But I will add one thing though, Yeah, he's you
Speaker 2: gotta go into those spaces, right like God has poured
Speaker 2: into you and you are an example of his existence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you going into those spaces and glowing and being
Speaker 2: successful and just as articulate and intelligent showcasing your talent.
Speaker 2: You gotta do that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's okay.
Speaker 5: We're coming up on time. Nick, our producer is telling
Speaker 5: us we gotta go, But I want to give you
Speaker 5: a chance to answer this question. What are the implications
Speaker 5: that you will carry long after this because I'm trying
Speaker 5: to punctuate the point to our audience that these things
Speaker 5: are life changing and it can also be life devastating.
Speaker 4: You have two girls, and so.
Speaker 5: We all celebrated, like yay, Maryland does not have to
Speaker 5: go behind bars. But there are so many other things
Speaker 5: to consider. Like you said, you lost both homes in Florida.
Speaker 4: Correct, I lost.
Speaker 2: I had to sell one for attorney's fees, and then
Speaker 2: the one is pending this appeal. The government is trying
Speaker 2: to take it.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, we want you to keep that home because
Speaker 5: you didn't do anything wrong. Is your home and America
Speaker 5: lied to us. That was the American dream, the home ownership,
Speaker 5: and you beat the odds, went to college, went to
Speaker 5: grad school and did all that. And now they took
Speaker 5: it because they played a long game. When you said
Speaker 5: on those stairs and said our time is now against
Speaker 5: the charges against the officers who were charging the murder
Speaker 5: of Freddie Gray, and then financially you still have attorney fees.
Speaker 4: I would imagine that you're still paying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are a number of implications. I mean,
Speaker 2: right now, I'm technically a felon, right like so a felon.
Speaker 2: As a felon, we know in this country, if you're
Speaker 2: not Donald Trump with thirty four felonies and you're running
Speaker 2: for president, you are second class citizen, especially for black people.
Speaker 2: You can no longer apply for a job, you can
Speaker 2: no longer apply for housing, you can't go back to
Speaker 2: school because you can't get any financial aid, and then
Speaker 2: what other recourse do you have but to what often
Speaker 2: happens in our communities, the individuals going back and doing
Speaker 2: what they were doing in the first place. And so
Speaker 2: that's the biggest sort of sort of implication as a
Speaker 2: result of this conviction. I'm hopeful though I operate in
Speaker 2: faith and not fear, and I know that God is
Speaker 2: real and he's protected me all this time. That you know,
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that the conviction will be reversed. I think
Speaker 2: the greater sort of implications for me have always been
Speaker 2: my concern for my children, because my girls fourteen and
Speaker 2: sixteen years old, and they have had to experience this
Speaker 2: trauma with me. When I went through my anxiety, when
Speaker 2: I went through the divorce, when we went through the
Speaker 2: stress of you know, everything that was put upon me.
Speaker 2: They saw my depression, right, They saw me crying at night,
Speaker 2: they saw when I couldn't get out of bed, they
Speaker 2: saw when you know, organizations were like, I need you
Speaker 2: to resign. Right, black women organizations as a result of
Speaker 2: this ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Can we call them out because I think that they
Speaker 4: should be. The Links are.
Speaker 6: One of the organizations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I don't understand. I don't want to be
Speaker 5: affiliated with women who cannot stand with me in the storm.
Speaker 5: And so if the reputator, if you are so into
Speaker 5: the white gaze that you have to say, we can't
Speaker 5: be affiliated with you anymore. Nothing about that says sisterhood
Speaker 5: to me. So I don't know if the national organization
Speaker 5: of the Links or people who represent the Links, how
Speaker 5: you all feel about it. But please, if you have
Speaker 5: some sort of justificate what we want to hear from you,
Speaker 5: but give give us a video and tell us why
Speaker 5: you thought it was appropriate and not standing with Marylyn
Speaker 5: Moseby when over one hundred thousand people did so stood
Speaker 5: with her that they signed a petition. But I believe
Speaker 5: it's more than one hundred thousand people who are cheering
Speaker 5: for you, Maryland. So that's very disappointing. So I know
Speaker 5: how you feel.
Speaker 2: That's no, and I appreciate that, TIF and I appreciate
Speaker 2: the question. But it was in that moment that my daughter,
Speaker 2: I had it on the speakerphone in my ought have
Speaker 2: heard them say we need your resignation and started crying
Speaker 2: right like. So those are the implications that are, like
Speaker 2: I guess, long term effects. So we put our girls
Speaker 2: in therapy. God has been so good to them. He's
Speaker 2: covered them. They are amazing. You know, we just dropped
Speaker 2: off nilin after the State of the People. We had
Speaker 2: a phenomenal State of the People in Baltimore. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you. The national team was amazing. I met so
Speaker 2: many talented folks, the visionary leadership of Angela again bringing
Speaker 2: you know, all of the services connecting the dots for
Speaker 2: local and national folks there. But I couldn't make the
Speaker 2: last day and I was so disappointed. I wanted to
Speaker 2: see Joy read as well as you, Tiffany, and I
Speaker 2: missed you. But we had to take my daughter to
Speaker 2: a pre college program. So God has been so good
Speaker 2: to me. I have no reason to complain.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 5: Amazing, and Angela thanked everybody, and obvious we were right
Speaker 5: there with Angela, but it really was her who looked
Speaker 5: into your case and said she in multiple chats, she
Speaker 5: was dropped like do y'all know? Have y'all read about this?
Speaker 5: What's happening? And we were all right behind her, But
Speaker 5: it was her to initially raise this to a national
Speaker 5: profile because I really believe it would have gone another way.
Speaker 4: You know, says it right. I would have been as
Speaker 4: shine the light on things to see the truth.
Speaker 3: And so can I just say one more shout out?
Speaker 3: I know, Tiff, but I just want to say one
Speaker 3: more shout out.
Speaker 4: Joy read I know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not was amazing.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not being humble. I like to be
Speaker 3: honest about what is in my wheelhouse to do and
Speaker 3: what is not. Joy had a phenomenal platform on a
Speaker 3: network that shall not be named because we shall not watch.
Speaker 3: But when Joy broke that case down, Okay, Tiff, when
Speaker 3: Joy broke that case down, it went viral.
Speaker 4: People were like, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, and she did it. You guys had the interview.
Speaker 3: I mean it just anyway, everybody, we thank god.
Speaker 2: I was just like, that's that's what I mean about
Speaker 2: the earth things, just like yes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Black women with black women call.
Speaker 6: I love that and y'all through that.
Speaker 7: I hope you know you are helping the shift culture
Speaker 7: because some of the battle that we have here is
Speaker 7: getting our folks to divorce themselves from the attitudes and
Speaker 7: positioning racists, white supremacist men who have said how we're
Speaker 7: all supposed to feel, act and respond to these situations,
Speaker 7: accepting when they find themselves there a rarity, but excepting when.
Speaker 6: They find themselves there.
Speaker 7: And we don't need any other example beyond Donald Trump
Speaker 7: to know that the earth then moves very differently depending
Speaker 7: on who the focuses is pointed at at the time.
Speaker 7: But Merylyn sister, we love you. We thank you for
Speaker 7: taking time and bringing the listeners an update on what's
Speaker 7: going on. Your smile, your grace is effusive, and so
Speaker 7: if you're listening, I hope you can. I hope you
Speaker 7: can hear that smile through through the through the system,
Speaker 7: and if you're watching, you can certainly see the beauty
Speaker 7: in it all, so thank you, sis, and we're always
Speaker 7: there for.
Speaker 2: You than you.
Speaker 6: That was an excellent conversation, y'all. We just want to
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