1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native Lamb Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, Everybody. This is Native Lamb Pod. I'm 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 3: Angela Raie. I'm with Andrew Gillim and Tiffany. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 4: You're gonna do what you're gonna do. Every week. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: This is our mini pod and we are so so 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: thrilled to have our sister, our friends joining us fresh 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: on the other side into liberation and freedom. Marylynd Moseby, 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: former Baltimore City States Attorney, a legend in her own right, 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: advocate for the people and also a local host committee member, 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: really our chair for the State of the People General 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: Assembly just last week, Maryland. 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show again, Marylyn. 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's so good to see 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: everyone on the other side of liberation. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we glad that you liberating. You look really good, Marylynd. 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 5: I was looking at you, say up, you look gorgeous. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Thank you to me. You always do. I'm just telling 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: her she is channeling the Billy Holliday. I think her 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: coming to Baltimore. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 5: Something I'm down and making, and it's so well outside 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 5: of making and one of those black towns I was 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: telling y'all about, and it's so hot down here, and 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: I had blown out my hair, and this morning I 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 5: watched it because it was so hot and human. And 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 5: now I'm looking at how gorgeous you and Angela look 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 5: and how Andrew always looks, and I'm like, I should 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: have kept myself together. 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 4: Listen, I didn't hear what neither one of y'all said. 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 6: One of y'all going marl. 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: No, I said, I love it. 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 7: She looks beautiful, and I said, was ninety three degrees 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 7: at ten o'clock this morning, So yeaht. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: Grateful for the humidity and no makeup though, So I 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: will say that feels I barely put lotion on my 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: face this morning. 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: That yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say that. People don't want 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: to hear about. 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: Me, Well I want to if you can, Maryland, talk 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: about how you're feeling. You had to serve a sentence 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: for something you didn't do, which we've talked about at 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: nauseum on this show. 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: And even though just. 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: True to form, the things are beeping to support what 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: we're saying, and we're so grateful Andrew for all of that. Backup, 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: But Marylyn I'd love to hear from you on how 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: you're feeling now. 49 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: So Angela, first and foremost, I'm just I feel so 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: much gratitude. I think, you know, God has been so 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: good to me and my girls. He has covered us 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: through the midst of this storm. And I say it 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: all the time and every sort of speech or any 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: sort of acknowledgment that I can. You know, unfortunately, a 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: lot of people in my life that I thought would 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: be there for me weren't. And that was also part 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: of the largest of divine plan. You know, before God elevates, 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: he separates in and exposed those the hearts of the 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: individuals that aren't really for you. But by the same token, 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: I feel so much gratitude because He did send Earth 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: angels into my life where you know, they were able 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: to pour into me and my girls in a way. 63 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: And I have to acknowledge that. I have to from 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: the bottom of my heart acknowledge and appreciate you. You know, 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: I got to say, Angela, I was drowning. You gave me, 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: You threw me a lifeline when I didn't even think 67 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: I could make it, Like you know, financially, spiritually, emotionally, psychologically, reputationally. 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: They tried to break me on so many different levels 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: and make an example out of me for what I 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: stood for. I had absolutely nothing to do with anything 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: that I did wrong. You know, I withdrew my own 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: retirement savings that I put away every two weeks to 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: buy property that was the extent of what I was 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: accused of. And having to fight the federal government. You know, 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: it was really difficult. I lost everything. I lost my marriage, 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: I lost my career, I lost my house, I lost 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: my car. You know, it was my home. It was 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: a lot, and so many you know folks that I 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: thought again would be there weren't, but you were. And 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: I just want to please acknowledge this woman right here 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: who fights for the people so many different levels, and 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: she's seeing this black woman in need. And I just 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: got to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. Angela. 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: You have no idea. You use your platform to elevate 85 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: the circumstance. And it was thanks to you. We had 86 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: a national campaign and you know, organizations signed on Black 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Win with black women, and you know, the Congressional Black 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: Caucus and sixty attorneys and Ben Crump, and you know, 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: it started with you. 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 6: Over one hundred thousand people. 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 2: One hundred thousand people signed that petition. You know, Angela 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: had she delved into my case and if you would 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: have seen her her living room, she had no books, 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: and you know, she got down to the nitty gritty. 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: And I'm so incredibly grateful. So when you say how 96 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: do I feel in this moment, I feel so much gratitude. 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: I love to hear it. I just I want to 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: I do this all the time. It's important to me 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: to just acknowledge, Tiff and Andrew did not hesitate when 100 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: we talked about bringing this to this podcast and getting 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: a petition done. In all of that, and to our 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: professional development program students, all of the work they did 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: on graphics, on everything. But I really, you know, don't 104 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: want to necessarily take you back there. I think it's 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: so important to talk about the road ahead and in 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: that Andrew, you've seen this yourself. Marylyn is just getting 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: out of this and now facing another thing. So Marylynd, 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: if you could talk about kind of what you're up 109 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: against and how folks are coming at you now that 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: you you know, you feel like you're in the clear, 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: then cut the bracelet off. You're not being monitored no 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: longer a curfew and now that. 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: So, I mean, yeah, it's constant a battle, you know, 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: one of the things that they attempted to do while 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: I was you know, right now, we're still waiting for 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: the Fourth Circuit to make a decision on my appeal, 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: and we feel really great about the appeal. However, that 118 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: argument was in January. We're still waiting and it's still 119 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: looming and it can come any day. The government was 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: attempting to take my house and to take my law 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: license before the appeal was even exhausted, and the Supreme 122 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: Court in Maryland basically said that you cannot do that. 123 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: So it's been a constant struggle in a battle that 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: we won temporarily until this appeal is ultimately decided. But 125 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: as soon as you get you take one step forward, 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: it feels like you're being pulled three steps back. 127 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 6: You know. 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: My predecessor, well not actually he's the person who has 129 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: come in after me. I would just say, I've in Bays, 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: who's the newly elected state attorney, has used this opportunity 131 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 2: to try to hurt me. He filed an attorney grievance 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: against me on one particular case. You know, despite the 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: thousands of cases that I oversaw that I didn't personally investigate. 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 2: Really a shucking and driving. You know, we got those 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: folks and tap dance and hold the water for the 136 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: status quo. And that's essentially what's being done. So I 137 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: have to now, on top of wait for the Court 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: of Appeals decision to be heard to determine whether I'm 139 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: going to keep my law license in my home. I 140 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: now have to fight an additional battle, which is to 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: defend myself in the ad non said case, which I 142 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: believe I was right in making that determination. He has 143 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: challenged my discretion and it has made an unprecedented move 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: to fil an attorney grievance against me and the attorney 145 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: who actually investigated the case. And so we are both, 146 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: you know, again battling again on the affront to try 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: to keep my law license in defense of that case. 148 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: Because you brought up the said case one your successor, 149 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: Ivan Bates. I'm curious why the focus and attention on you. 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: I imagine the good people of Baltimore would like their 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: tax dollars being used in resources on something certainly more pressing. 152 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: I've known you, Maryland for over ten years now, I 153 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: can assure the people of Baltimore you are not a fugitive, 154 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: You are not a threat to society. You have certainly 155 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 5: enhanced that city and your influence cast a wide shadow 156 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: across the nation. So I'm curious if you have any 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: thoughts on why he's so focused on you. Secondly, if 158 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 5: you would, just for the benefit of our audience, give 159 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 5: a little background on what the Sai case is and 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 5: what the issue is since you since you brought it up. 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: So anand Sayid was another one. I created the first 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: conviction integrity unit in the entire state of Maryland where 163 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: we did reinvestigations into claims of actual and I also 164 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: had a sentencing review unit where we modified and reduced 165 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: the sentences of juvenile lifers and the elderly prison population, 166 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: where we released more than sixty individuals by modifying their sentence. 167 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: I had an individual attorney that actually was a senior 168 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: attorney at the Public Defender's Office, Becky Feldman, who came 169 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: over and worked my sentencing review unit, and under her leadership, 170 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: she actually reviewed the ad Non Sayid case. This is 171 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: a case that dates very far back where he was 172 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: wrongly if we believe after a thorough investigation that he 173 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: was wrongly convicted of murder, and so we did our 174 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: due diligence. We investigated the case and ultimately made a 175 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: recommendation to vacate the conviction of ad Non said and rightfully, 176 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: so we would argue, as you are aware, prosecutors, we 177 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: exercised our discretion every single day, right, and thousands of cases, 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: and this particular case is a high profile case. It's 179 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: rather controversial. But when you are elected into these positions 180 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: and as a leader, you have to make a decision, right, 181 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: you stand on on the moral beliefs of what you're 182 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: doing is right. And that's what we did. I got 183 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: to say the mission of my office was justice over convictions. Unfortunately, 184 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think that the newly elected state attorney 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: is playing politics just like Trump. Right. Unfortunately, he took 186 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: advantage of the of the fact that I had this 187 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: bogus investigation and looming criminal case hanging over me. He 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: had run against me before and lost, but this time around, 189 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: he won, and he ran on a platform of pretty 190 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: much reversing everything that I had done in my office, 191 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: progressive related and he did just that. So, now, when 192 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: you ask why would someone do something like that, well 193 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: he was, you know of the Fox forty five who 194 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: was a local sort of fox station put two hundred 195 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: thousand dollars into my race to support him, right, And 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: so why would he do that. He carries the weight 197 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: of the status quo. And so unfortunately the people of 198 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore voted for this man, and just like Trump, they 199 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: voted against their own self interest. So you get what 200 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: you voted for. And so that's who he is. He's 201 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: showing to be who he's always been. 202 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 7: That's all rings so familiar, Maryland. But I just first 203 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 7: got to say, you have breath in your body. Yes, 204 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 7: you are yes on the other side, and you and 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 7: I could talk one on one about the traumat the 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 7: trauma of all of it, and how you get revisited 207 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 7: by it, if not every moment of the day, every 208 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 7: other moment of the day, you feel some reminder. But 209 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 7: if I could just say, you and I both and 210 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 7: maybe more than us, will have to work very hard 211 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 7: to expel those voices that operate in our head that 212 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 7: cause us to be curious about everything we do, how 213 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 7: people feel about us, whether we're welcome to move in 214 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 7: certain spaces or not. You're on the other side of it. 215 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 7: But as you know, this trauma is certainly I hope 216 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 7: it isn't, but it feels like it might be a 217 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 7: lifetime wound that constantly has to be tended to in 218 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 7: some way, and that maybe over time what happens is 219 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 7: is that our our heart won't always feel like it's 220 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 7: carried outside our body on our sleeves, that it won't 221 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 7: impact us so severely as it did from the beginning 222 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 7: as time passes by. I'll also just say this that 223 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 7: the enemies who are again rising against you, and I 224 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 7: wholly accept your description of this, of this new prosecutor, 225 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 7: these folks, they don't The devil comes to kill and destroy, right, 226 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 7: he comes to kill and destroy, And in fact I 227 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 7: now begin to accept in that order. 228 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: Right, they kill you, destroy you, kill you again, just 229 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: to make sure you're dead. Right. My grandmother said they. 230 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 7: Gonna kill you dead. I thought, like, hell, you're already dead. No, 231 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 7: they're gonna kill you dead. So just be be aware 232 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: that Tiffany said I think a little earlier that you're 233 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 7: you know, you're not a threat, You're not this. I 234 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 7: just want to reassure you remain a threat so long 235 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 7: as you have breath in your body, and you are 236 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 7: the woman of character that I came to know many 237 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 7: years ago when you first got elected. You will continue 238 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 7: to be a threat by how do we say, getting 239 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 7: in good trouble, And I just want to admonish you, 240 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: friend that I think I'm speaking to myself too. We 241 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 7: have to not shrink from the gifts that God has 242 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: given us to continue to operate in good trouble. And 243 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 7: I think the beauty in that is that the same 244 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 7: people who were attracted to you when they elected you 245 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 7: for that fight, for that fierceness, those are gonna be 246 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 7: the same champions who come riding and dying for you 247 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 7: on this one. Lastly, the people who disappointed us by 248 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 7: not showing up, I just want to and part of 249 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 7: my process of releasing them was simply to say, everybody 250 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 7: doesn't operate at the same level of freedom. 251 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 6: As we think. 252 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 7: Everybody that we thought was courageous and courageous, everybody who 253 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 7: was running with us and acting like they were equals 254 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 7: and equal to our hustle, were actually just pretenders and 255 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 7: hangers on. And I think when we look at them 256 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 7: sympathetically as I'm sorry I thought you were of sterner things, 257 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 7: you're not let it go because you got too much 258 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 7: work to do. The haters, detractors, they're there for a 259 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 7: I acknowledge that. But you're here for a mission too, 260 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 7: and I believe yours this greater and more powerful, more impactful, 261 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 7: and just cheering and riding for. 262 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 6: You because you deserve it. God got you here again 263 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 6: because you deserve it, not stand in it. 264 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: And I just want to say, I mean, I think, 265 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: even looking to folks like yourself who were champions for 266 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: our people and for our communities, and for justice right 267 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: and for all people, and the way in which the 268 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: status quo came for you, you know I've learned from it. 269 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: And I say this all the time, what happened to me. 270 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't have any sort of bitterness in my heart. 271 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: I have nothing but gratitude even for the haters right, 272 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: because I've been able to delve and into deep, deeply 273 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: within myself, and I'm a better person as a result 274 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: of the experience you. I always say that you learn lessons. 275 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I learned lessons at rock bottom that peaks of mountaintops 276 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: will never teach you. It required me to hit rock bottom, 277 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: for me to lose everything, for me to open my 278 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: eyes and to get back to myself, and I would 279 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: love to take the credit for it, but I can't. 280 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, I don't look 281 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: like what I've been through because I'm divinely protected, just 282 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: like you are divinely protected, just like Tip. It's divinely protected, 283 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: right like no matter what they try to do, as 284 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: you've already said, you know the gifts and the talents 285 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: that God has given us, the devil will try to 286 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: stop so that we don't understand and recognize our purpose 287 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: and our greater purpose. And so I'm grateful for it 288 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: all I've learned from all of you. I am so 289 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: grateful for your support, and I've learned right, I've grown, 290 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: so there's no reason for me to have any sort 291 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: of animosity. But what I will also know knowing myself 292 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: is that I will always speak truth to power, like 293 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: I'm always going to tell the truth. And so if 294 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: that ruffles fathers, then guess what so be it? 295 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: Marilyn. 296 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 5: Let me ask you. I'm writing about heartbreak right now, 297 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 5: and I'm writing about a conversation that you and I 298 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 5: had when you were going through all of this, and 299 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to say it now because I want 300 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: people to re read it when it comes out. But 301 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 5: I just I remember walking away thinking, man at her 302 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 5: lowest point, she poured into me with a message that 303 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: was so profound. But what I don't think that our 304 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: that that society at large realizes, is when you're charged 305 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: with something like this. Andrew, certainly you know firsthand it 306 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 5: is not okay, you're found not guilty, or you have 307 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: one year probation. It lingers with you financially, it lingers 308 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: with you socially, and it was it kind of broke 309 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: my heart. Hurt my heart to hear you say that, Andrew, 310 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 5: that you have to think about am I welcome in 311 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: certain spaces and how people might regard you. Any space 312 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 5: Andrew ain't welcome. Let me just tell y'all that I'm 313 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 5: not welcome. I ain't going right, But get y'all want 314 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 5: to go. Yeah, any space Angelae and welcome, I'm not going. 315 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 5: So I mean we move as community. 316 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: But I will add one thing though, Yeah, he's you 317 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: gotta go into those spaces, right like God has poured 318 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: into you and you are an example of his existence. Yeah, 319 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: so you going into those spaces and glowing and being 320 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: successful and just as articulate and intelligent showcasing your talent. 321 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: You gotta do that. 322 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 4: Sorry, that's okay. 323 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: We're coming up on time. Nick, our producer is telling 324 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 5: us we gotta go, But I want to give you 325 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: a chance to answer this question. What are the implications 326 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: that you will carry long after this because I'm trying 327 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 5: to punctuate the point to our audience that these things 328 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: are life changing and it can also be life devastating. 329 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: You have two girls, and so. 330 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: We all celebrated, like yay, Maryland does not have to 331 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 5: go behind bars. But there are so many other things 332 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: to consider. Like you said, you lost both homes in Florida. 333 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: Correct, I lost. 334 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: I had to sell one for attorney's fees, and then 335 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: the one is pending this appeal. The government is trying 336 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 2: to take it. 337 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 5: Okay, well, we want you to keep that home because 338 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: you didn't do anything wrong. Is your home and America 339 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: lied to us. That was the American dream, the home ownership, 340 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 5: and you beat the odds, went to college, went to 341 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 5: grad school and did all that. And now they took 342 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 5: it because they played a long game. When you said 343 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: on those stairs and said our time is now against 344 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: the charges against the officers who were charging the murder 345 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: of Freddie Gray, and then financially you still have attorney fees. 346 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: I would imagine that you're still paying. 347 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are a number of implications. I mean, 348 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: right now, I'm technically a felon, right like so a felon. 349 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: As a felon, we know in this country, if you're 350 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: not Donald Trump with thirty four felonies and you're running 351 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: for president, you are second class citizen, especially for black people. 352 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: You can no longer apply for a job, you can 353 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: no longer apply for housing, you can't go back to 354 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: school because you can't get any financial aid, and then 355 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: what other recourse do you have but to what often 356 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: happens in our communities, the individuals going back and doing 357 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: what they were doing in the first place. And so 358 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: that's the biggest sort of sort of implication as a 359 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: result of this conviction. I'm hopeful though I operate in 360 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: faith and not fear, and I know that God is 361 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 2: real and he's protected me all this time. That you know, 362 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that the conviction will be reversed. I think 363 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: the greater sort of implications for me have always been 364 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: my concern for my children, because my girls fourteen and 365 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: sixteen years old, and they have had to experience this 366 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: trauma with me. When I went through my anxiety, when 367 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: I went through the divorce, when we went through the 368 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: stress of you know, everything that was put upon me. 369 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: They saw my depression, right, They saw me crying at night, 370 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: they saw when I couldn't get out of bed, they 371 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: saw when you know, organizations were like, I need you 372 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: to resign. Right, black women organizations as a result of 373 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: this ridiculous. 374 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: Can we call them out because I think that they 375 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: should be. The Links are. 376 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: One of the organizations. 377 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I don't understand. I don't want to be 378 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: affiliated with women who cannot stand with me in the storm. 379 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: And so if the reputator, if you are so into 380 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: the white gaze that you have to say, we can't 381 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: be affiliated with you anymore. Nothing about that says sisterhood 382 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 5: to me. So I don't know if the national organization 383 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: of the Links or people who represent the Links, how 384 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 5: you all feel about it. But please, if you have 385 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 5: some sort of justificate what we want to hear from you, 386 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 5: but give give us a video and tell us why 387 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: you thought it was appropriate and not standing with Marylyn 388 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: Moseby when over one hundred thousand people did so stood 389 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: with her that they signed a petition. But I believe 390 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 5: it's more than one hundred thousand people who are cheering 391 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: for you, Maryland. So that's very disappointing. So I know 392 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: how you feel. 393 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: That's no, and I appreciate that, TIF and I appreciate 394 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: the question. But it was in that moment that my daughter, 395 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: I had it on the speakerphone in my ought have 396 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: heard them say we need your resignation and started crying 397 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: right like. So those are the implications that are, like 398 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I guess, long term effects. So we put our girls 399 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: in therapy. God has been so good to them. He's 400 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: covered them. They are amazing. You know, we just dropped 401 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: off nilin after the State of the People. We had 402 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: a phenomenal State of the People in Baltimore. Let me 403 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: tell you. The national team was amazing. I met so 404 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 2: many talented folks, the visionary leadership of Angela again bringing 405 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, all of the services connecting the dots for 406 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: local and national folks there. But I couldn't make the 407 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: last day and I was so disappointed. I wanted to 408 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: see Joy read as well as you, Tiffany, and I 409 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: missed you. But we had to take my daughter to 410 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: a pre college program. So God has been so good 411 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: to me. I have no reason to complain. 412 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 6: I love it. 413 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 5: Amazing, and Angela thanked everybody, and obvious we were right 414 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 5: there with Angela, but it really was her who looked 415 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: into your case and said she in multiple chats, she 416 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 5: was dropped like do y'all know? Have y'all read about this? 417 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 5: What's happening? And we were all right behind her, But 418 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 5: it was her to initially raise this to a national 419 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 5: profile because I really believe it would have gone another way. 420 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: You know, says it right. I would have been as 421 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: shine the light on things to see the truth. 422 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: And so can I just say one more shout out? 423 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: I know, Tiff, but I just want to say one 424 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: more shout out. 425 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 4: Joy read I know. 426 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm not was amazing. 427 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not being humble. I like to be 428 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: honest about what is in my wheelhouse to do and 429 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: what is not. Joy had a phenomenal platform on a 430 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: network that shall not be named because we shall not watch. 431 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: But when Joy broke that case down, Okay, Tiff, when 432 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: Joy broke that case down, it went viral. 433 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: People were like, oh. 434 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: My god, and she did it. You guys had the interview. 435 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean it just anyway, everybody, we thank god. 436 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: I was just like, that's that's what I mean about 437 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: the earth things, just like yes. 438 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just. 439 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: Black women with black women call. 440 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: I love that and y'all through that. 441 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 7: I hope you know you are helping the shift culture 442 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 7: because some of the battle that we have here is 443 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 7: getting our folks to divorce themselves from the attitudes and 444 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 7: positioning racists, white supremacist men who have said how we're 445 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 7: all supposed to feel, act and respond to these situations, 446 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 7: accepting when they find themselves there a rarity, but excepting when. 447 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 6: They find themselves there. 448 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 7: And we don't need any other example beyond Donald Trump 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 7: to know that the earth then moves very differently depending 450 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 7: on who the focuses is pointed at at the time. 451 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 7: But Merylyn sister, we love you. We thank you for 452 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 7: taking time and bringing the listeners an update on what's 453 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: going on. Your smile, your grace is effusive, and so 454 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 7: if you're listening, I hope you can. I hope you 455 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 7: can hear that smile through through the through the system, 456 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 7: and if you're watching, you can certainly see the beauty 457 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 7: in it all, so thank you, sis, and we're always 458 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 7: there for. 459 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: You than you. 460 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 6: That was an excellent conversation, y'all. We just want to 461 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 6: remind you. 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