WEBVTT - Get Rich or Get Replaced: The AI Wake-Up Call 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.400 Welcome to Money and Wealth with John O'Briant, a production 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:06.960 of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.360 Hey, Hey is John O'Briant. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.200 And this is the Money and Wealth podcast series, Season 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:25.360 three on the iHeartRadio platform on the Black Effect Network. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.440 Thank you everyone for making this podcast one of the 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:34.240 top fifty for entrepreneurship in the nation, top one fifty 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.400 two hundred for business, and top two fifty in the 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.519 world on every content for entrepreneurship and business, and in 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.479 the LACP nominee for their Image Awards. 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:45.880 We're on the move. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.040 And today is one of those special episodes where I 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.239 bring a guest on. As you know if you've been 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.400 following me, oftentimes I just spend an hour forty five 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.560 minutes for an hour pouring into you myself on a 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.200 topic that I believe that I have proficiency in. I 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.840 bring guests on. When two plus two equals six, eight 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:10.320 or ten, when the relationship is defined is better together. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:16.640 It's multiplication, not just addition. I'm Michael Milkin, an ambassador, 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:22.559 Andrew J. Young, a Bishop TD Jakes, someone who's top 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.920 of the mark Tony Wrestler's coming, who owns a lot 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:31.920 of hawks and built so many companies, and today is 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.600 one of those days. I have my brother from another mother, 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:43.200 my dear friend, an underrated genius, Van Jones, who you 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:53.240 probably know as a global CNN commentator, co host and journalists. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.520 You know him politically, you know him from wherever you 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.280 know him from. I know him slightly differently. Break this 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.280 down as we talk about and by the way, I'm 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.560 honored to introduce him today also as the co chair 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.280 with me for Hope AI, which will give you some 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.960 sense of what this conversation is about today. So honored 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.359 to have Van as my co chair of Hope AI. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.839 And to tell your intentional this is my coach chair 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.840 for Financial Literacy for All was Doug mc millan, the 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.440 CEO of Walmart and is now the CEO of Delta 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.560 Airlines ed Bashan for twenty twenty six. My co chair 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.280 for the AI Ethics Council is Sam Alkman, and so 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.800 I'm honored to have the co chair of the Future 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.320 of AI with Van Jones. Here's what you don't know 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.840 about Van. Undergraduate degree the University of Tennessee. There we 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.240 go a bachelor's degree in communications and political science. From there, 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.440 law degrees law school, Yale Law School. Did you know 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:57.560 that a juris doctorate a jd. And I believe you 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.720 also went to MIT, is that right? 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:05.359 A fellow at MIT, professor and a fellow at Princeton. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.040 A couple of little places like that that I don't 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.920 talk about a lot because I got my best education 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.120 from Willie Jones and Levetta Jones and Little Jackson, Tennessee, 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:15.720 where I grew up. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.800 Man, let's get into this. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.160 Man, By the way, is there anything else that the 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.440 audience would uh not know that's not obvious that we 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.160 should share for context for this conversation. As far as 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.640 your background, your focus, where you're spending your time, your intellect, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:33.800 I know you spent a lot of time reading and 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:34.639 studying the world. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.200 Look, I mean I think a lot of times people 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.480 think I was born on the set of CNN. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:42.560 Right next to the eds of Just. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:44.920 Happen. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.480 That would have been gross bhoom exactly. Now that'll be 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.600 a long before. You know, I've been on TV for 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.080 about fourteen years. But you know before that, I was 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.080 mainly focused on you know, black stuff tough. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.160 Can you unit? 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.560 These constituencies built the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:10.680 colorf Change, dot Org, A Reform Alliance, Green for All, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.240 and other organizations trying to get black folk out of 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:19.400 jail into jobs. That's been my fundamental kind of commitment. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.599 And I'm very proud to have gotten legislation passed signed 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.040 by George W. Bush and Donald Trump, but also got 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.720 a chance to work for Barack Obama in the White 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.560 House and and. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.760 Work for it is another first. He was the first 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.520 environmental advisor to any president United States of America in 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.720 the history of this country. Work it was an advisor 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:42.799 to president of Barack Obama. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:43.920 Was that right? Yeah? 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.640 Yeah, the first, the first clean energy uh green jobs 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.640 advisor ever. And and the legislation that I got a 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.080 chance to help implement when I was at the White 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.479 House level, actually was the main advocate for when I 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.599 got George W. Bush's signing. So I I really have 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.320 fought my whole life to try to figure out what 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.880 is the black future. How can we get black communities 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:15.359 and other underrepresented, underestimated communities the hope and help that 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.279 we need to be able to not be victims but 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.599 to actually be architects of the future. That's been my 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.360 main thing. So that's why I focused on solar energy 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.400 and that revolution. That's why I focused on alternatives to 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.160 incarcerations so we don't lose so much black genius to 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.520 jail celles. And you know, I got a chance to 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.800 work with Prince for six years, helped him with his philanthropy. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:37.600 He backed me. 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.640 On Yes We Code, and that's really where I want 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.839 to kind of start if I can, John, because Reverend 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:51.240 Jackson passing away to me has been a life changing 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:56.320 event because he was a person who opened up doors 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:01.480 for me in Silicon Valley back in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:06.479 twenty fourteen, when Silicon Valley was a completely black box. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.720 We had no idea where the technology companies hiring any 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.839 African Americans, we were being promoted. It was completely a 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.400 black box. And it was Reverend Jackson who bought some 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.760 shares in some of these companies and went to those 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.719 shareholder meetings and encouraged them to open up the books. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.840 And it turned out that African Americans were woefully underrepresented 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.440 in Silicon Valley, and so Prince and I launched a 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.839 campaign called Yes We Code, Now Yes we Can, Yes 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.280 We Code to begin to try to get more opportunity. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.719 And we were working with. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.359 Facebook, Meta Now and other groups, and I saw things, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.280 and then also being a fellow at MIT for two years, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.560 I learned a lot about technology, and I learned a 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.360 lot about how technology is going to determine a lot 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.080 about the future and the importers of us being present. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.760 Before a fan goes any further, and I'm gonna do 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.360 what I don't do a lot. I'm gonna shut up 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.560 this whole podcast let him talk because I think he's 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:07.160 that brilliant. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.680 I want to say something to the audience. We've got to. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.440 Stop being offended and start being affected and being effective. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:21.320 Stop being offended, stop getting your feelings hurt right, stop 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:26.080 being obsessed with with how somebody's saying something, and figure 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.600 about what they're saying and what's the meaning behind what 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.240 they're saying and seeing if you can, let's just stop 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:36.360 stepping over mess not in it. Van is working to 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:43.080 I mean net net to advance all people with an 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.400 emphasis on our people. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.040 And what he's. 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.720 Done around criminal justice reform. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.040 I'm not crazy about some of the folks he's worked with, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.880 But you know, somebody asked me before are you going 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.000 to go to president go to dinner with President Bush 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.520 and President Clinton? Like, Well, Yeah, I'm gonna go to 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.200 dinner at President Bush because I respect him. I'm gonna 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.920 go to dinner with President Clinton because I like him. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.680 Actually like President Bush now too, but I'm still going 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:12.080 to dinner. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:12.760 Right. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.679 It's really interesting. We love President Bush. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:16.040 Today we. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.720 Called him the devil please come back. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.560 You know how good we had it back in those days. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.760 Look, I appreciate capitalists. They called me a republic's twenty 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.800 years ago. I understand what I was doing. Then, what 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.320 I was doing they called me up kind of names. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.679 And now now you know, I mean whatever I mean. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.840 All that stuff is falling away, and I stay focused 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.120 on this mission of making capitalists work for all of 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.839 God's children and bringing people and dragging people in the 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.040 future and talking to people straight. And I just want 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.080 people to to to to go to the DNA, go 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.640 to the Cora van Jones and say is that the truth? 0:08:56.080 --> 0:09:01.000 Is what he's saying accurate, is what he's doing important? 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.960 And you're about to hear an example of that in 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:03.880 this podcast. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:05.040 Uh. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.200 And he's he's working in areas where most of us 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.280 are not working with people, most of us don't have 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.199 access to I only nobody else got one hundred million 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.600 dollars from a tech a tech billionaire to do as 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.880 he likes, which is what he got from. There's another 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.560 thing knowing is from Jeff Bezos and Amazon. Jeff didn't 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.360 give a hundred bion dollars. He had nothing else to do, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.960 and he did it because he thought he thought Van 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.800 was the most effective dude. Uh he'd met. And the 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.959 story goes on and on and on. Get to know 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.959 this guy as a person and as a as a 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.440 and as a mentalist and as a and as a 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:38.439 brilliant thinker. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:39.559 Uh. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:44.080 And then let's figure out whether we can benefit from 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.440 what he's saying and what he's doing. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.160 Because I sure am over to you, Van Jones. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.880 Who I love well, I appreciate it. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.440 And what I would just say to anybody's like, I know, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.679 I'm not everybody's cup of tea, and that's perfectly fine 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.000 with me, Like I am. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.600 I don't know if that's true, but anyway, go. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.319 Ahead, but I just just say, like, my soul is 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.680 rested because I've been so blessed. You know, my father 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.839 was born in a shotgun shack in Memphis, Tennessee, or 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.040 on Cable Street in Orange Mound, Memphis. Anybody knows anything 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.560 about Tennessee, knows what I said. At Orange Mound, that 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.320 was the toughest, roughest black neighborhood. And he came out 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.360 of there and joined the military and put himself through 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.840 college and married a college president's daughter, my mother, and 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.240 put his brother through college and a cousin through college, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.720 and me and my twin sister through college. And when 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.920 he died, the picture they put on the funeral program 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.480 was my father standing in front of Yale Law School 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.400 with his arms in the air, saying, look look at 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:42.360 what we've done. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.280 And so you know my father was pleased with me. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.000 And when you have that, you. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.880 Know that's enough. You know somebody loved your mother, your grandmother, 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.600 whoever was that. If you can look at those people 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.600 who saw you when you were little and were struggling, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:00.319 if they're pleased with you, then the world you know best. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.000 As a number two vote. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.280 Amen, I've been. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.719 Black, folks. I mean sometimes we don't think it all 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.280 the way through. People fought hard for me John to 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.000 be able to go to the University of Tennessee at 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.280 Martin on a minority scholarship. I never met those people, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.800 but somebody had to have an argument a fight to say, listen, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:28.040 these public schools in Tennessee are still almost all white. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.880 And somebody fought and they said, we got to put 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.600 a minority scholarship program together at the University of Tennessee. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.280 They fought for me to be able to get that, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.040 and I got it. Somebody at Yale Law School fought 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.240 to say, listen, ten thousand kids apply to Yale Law School. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.679 We only let it in one hundred and twenty. So if 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.440 we can find a kid that's got an outstanding LSAT 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.680 scored nineties percentile as a black kid from the rural 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.600 south of the state school, we need to let that 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.000 kid have a chance. I know that was the person 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.840 was they fought for me. I took advantage of that, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.920 and on down the line, people were fighting open doors 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.000 for kids like me. I was born in sixty eight, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.600 the same year they killed doctor King. But what we 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.680 have to think about is if you fought for me 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.439 to get into Yale and into Princeton and into MIT, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.880 when I come back, I might be a little bit different. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:16.720 Right. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.679 You can't fight to get kids like me into all 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.200 these institutions and expect us to come home exactly the same. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.400 So I need some mercy and some grace for my 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.079 people to say, if you wanted me to go to 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.559 all these places and maybe I see the world a 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.800 little bit different, can we make that an advantage for 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.920 all of us. Can we add what I learned to 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.120 what you learned and what you would you know, and 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.360 now we're all smarter together. That's how I want to be. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.960 But what I learned along the way, I do see 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:51.080 things very differently. I know what's coming with the technology. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.480 I don't have to guess. I was just at a 0:12:54.520 --> 0:13:01.760 conference that Peter Diamanda's convened called the Abundance Conference. To 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.679 somebody who's name, everyone should begin to learn because he's 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.520 a white guy. Uh. He's been at the center of 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.280 this technological revolution externial technology. He's the inventor of the 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.800 X Prize. He's written a number of books, including The 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.320 Future Is Faster Than You Think. And his conference pulls 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.280 together the biggest people in deep tech in the world. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.840 I'm talking about people who are doing quantum computing, AI, biotech, robotics, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.400 mining as getting ready to mind asteroids in space. I mean, 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.320 it's and it's a small group of people. John, It's 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.600 not a whole bunch of people, and they have big brains, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.800 some of them have big hearts, but they they would 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.520 admit they're a little bit monochromatic. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.480 I've got a chance to explain what that just what 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.680 you just said, a lot of them. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.600 The same color. That color is not black, a little 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.920 bit white. And so in the green too. They got 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.920 a lot of money and a lot of green. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.080 And so I'm so blessed because Peter Diamandis has opened 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.840 his heart and network and say listen, you know, I 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.359 want you to see what's happening and give me your reflections, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:14.040 and we've developed a great friendship. You've been trying to 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.320 warn people and alert people that a big change is coming, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.080 and what I want to tell you is the big 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.600 change is now here. These guys have been saying the 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.280 singularity is coming, and the singularity is this event where 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:35.880 the exponential growth curve of technology goes vertical. And so 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.280 so this is the first time I've heard I've known 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:38.840 Peter for a long time, the first time I've heard 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.360 him say the singularity is not coming. The singularity is here. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.320 We are now going straight up. And what that means 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.160 is you may have noticed every week, every day there's 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.480 some new breakthrough in AI capability. That would have been 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.520 the news of the decade just three years ago, and 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.440 now it's not even the news of a Twitter cycle 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.200 because these agents now. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:07.960 Are so capable. And so what I told Peter, explain. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.880 What an agent is. Please, We're gonna have to We're 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.800 gonna do some translation. This is a great example, everybody. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.680 It's a great example. Normally if some Wall Street got 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:19.000 geek or I've got some some you know, Michael Milker 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.440 is some genius on here, I gotta say, slow on, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.040 I need to translate what you're saying here, and I 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:29.200 need to do from PhD to PhD. Brother Van Jones 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.360 from the hood d a hypen a, you will do. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.160 Who's now I'm having to translate for him, get him 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.720 to to translate and convert what he's saying in real time. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:44.760 He lives in this other yeah, other worlds, and and 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.760 people don't know that they're brilliant, they're really smart people. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.400 They don't know what an AI agent is. They don't 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.520 know what Peter did in mind. So we're gonna have 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.680 to stop and walk folks through. Uh. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.280 The good thing is that John and I are building 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:03.120 hope AI to make sure that you can understand this 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.280 stuff better than any by in the world, and that's coming. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.600 We're building it aggressively. Both of our teams are working 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.200 on it. So if some of this stuff sounds a 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.160 little bit weird to see it as a as a 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.720 trailer for a movie, this is This podcast is a 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:19.080 trailer hope AI is the trilogy that's coming. So just 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:24.680 just relax. I will just back it up a bit 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.720 and thank you for I do get ahead of myself. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:31.040 John, Oh, you're brilliant. I love it, actually, brother. 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.600 Yeah, Well, the way the way I would say it 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:38.880 is that there are seven or eight trillion dollar industries 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.600 that are taking off at the same time. Maybe that's 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.600 the best the way the phrase phrase it. So robotics 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:48.440 is taking off, biotech is taking off, Quantum is taking off. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.920 AI is taking no long what's quantum? Okay? 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:57.440 So quantum Quantum computing is the next form of computation. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.120 To give you a cent, what's computation? Okay? 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:09.760 So okay, So the way that your computer reasons and 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:16.720 drives through data is based on old physics. There's a 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:22.120 an updated form of physics is quantum physics, and quantum 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.600 physics uses something called superposition, which is to take too 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.520 long to explain. But the practical effect of it is, 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:34.680 these computers are going to be ten thousand x faster. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:36.240 Than what you have. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:42.280 So what does that mean. That means cyber changes instantly. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:47.760 Your little password that you have protecting your computer. A 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.120 normal computer, for trying to break that it might take 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.719 a million years. This thing might be able to do it, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:53.920 break it in that afternoon. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.360 So it's just a. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:18:03.000 Completely different level of computational power that is almost impossible 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:03.720 to comprehend. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.280 That's coming private. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.320 Let me, audience, me help you out here. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.800 So when when our parents were growing up, computers were 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.520 big as a building, yes, one computer, one computer as 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.399 big as an office building or a small warehouse. And 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.040 then you got it into uh then Bill Gates time 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.120 you got it into one room. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:25.360 Uh. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.360 And then Steve Jobs and others got it uh on 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.199 your on your lap too, well, on your laptop. And 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.399 now this is a computer. It's on your phone. Okay, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.239 that's it's all a smartphone. It's a computer. And what 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.240 Van Jones is telling you now is that, uh, this 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.440 is getting to a point where you have a computer 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.359 on the tip of your on the tip of your finger, 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.000 and that computer on the tip of your finger will 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.800 do ten x or in some cases one hundred x. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:53.880 Uh. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.200 The speed and the power and the computation ability, the 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.840 ability to process both con in time of anything you've 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.240 ever seen, and it's. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:03.840 Going straight up. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:06.320 We're now on the vertical. 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.360 We're on the vertical, and it's happening right now. So again, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.199 we don't have time to be arguing. We don't have 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.159 time to be disagree with each other. We don't have 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.000 time to be figured out whether you like somebody or not, 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.760 sound like somebody like. The world is moving, whether you 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.080 like it or not. And we need to get on 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.440 this train and you need to figure out who's next 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.919 to you and decide you there's something about them you like, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.600 because that's your all right, buckle up, and let's go 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.040 back to you Van Good. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.280 So you have these trillion dollar industries that are jumping off, 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.320 and on the one hand, it's you know that you 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.600 don't have a lot of African Americans in particular participating. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.439 But at the same time, even though it's we're on 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.800 the vertical, the growth is still to come. So there's 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.679 opportunities to get in, there's opportunities to participate. There's opportunities 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.399 in the in the necessity again, which I'll get you 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.720 in a minute. But I think the most important thing 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:59.200 that I can say is that there's something called these 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.200 are all terms that can just look up, called accelerationism. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.720 All that is is the people who are in the 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.080 computer science world and the AI world who want to 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:11.720 go as fast as possible, those people who have always 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:16.159 said let's go, go, go, go go. At this conference 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.840 last week, the first time I've heard them say, hold 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.600 on a second, this is going so fast that now 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:28.359 we're getting scared. Never heard that from the accelerationist crowd. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:35.280 And they invited me to speak to an important subsection 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.200 of that gathering of the patrons, the people who write 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.240 the bigger checks, and just like, what do you see? 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.679 And so I want to tell your audience. I've never 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:46.800 i haven't spoked about this publicly at all. I've been 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:51.240 waiting to tell your audience. What I told this incredibly 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:55.679 select group of billionaires and more who have been driving 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.000 this thing is they're sitting there looking at these at 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.040 what these things can do. 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.840 Oh, the agents. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:05.120 Sorry, So when you have chatt that's just it's called 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:11.439 a chatbot. It's basically it's just uh, it's basically just 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.600 predicting the next word. And so even though it seems 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.640 super brilliant, it's really just a prediction machine mm hmm. 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.680 And it has to It can't do very much except 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.359 answer your questions like a glorified Google search. It's like 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.679 a Google search through all of human knowledge. An agent 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.840 is not that an agent. So now you're going from 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.040 chat to BT just a Claude. An agent can do stuff, 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.879 So please so explain to people. Claude is just briefly okay. 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.480 So Claude is created by a company called Anthropic. 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:50.359 Uh founder who left uh. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.240 Yes so so yes so, Dario's who's someone's a friend 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:52.560 of mine? 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:53.959 And and John's left. 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.320 Open Ai created Anthropic wanting to create something with a 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.360 few more guardrails to make it a little bit more ethical. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:06.119