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Speaker 1: The Around the League podcast, he deserves its own a

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Speaker 1: football life. Welcome back to another district of the Around

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Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys? Hey Dan? What is happening?

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Speaker 1: You thought this is this is gonna be a firecracker

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Speaker 1: assessing you have a feeling. Yeah, I have a Sessler

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Speaker 1: that the you know this is gonna there's a little heat,

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Speaker 1: a little heat in a in a good way. Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler out of the studio today on his day off,

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Speaker 1: decided not to come in, which to me speaks to

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Speaker 1: his passion for the project. Your thoughts, the boss. That's

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Speaker 1: not fair at all. I hope he doesn't hear that.

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Speaker 1: We know he doesn't listen to the show, so that's

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Speaker 1: any sympathize with him. He's a he's a father of

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Speaker 1: two young boys. A lot of errands to run about

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Speaker 1: to do it today, off enjoy it. It's June. Mark

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Speaker 1: suspected that his sons had gotten into bath salts, which

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Speaker 1: it seems in the in the Sessler household. Sometimes things

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Speaker 1: just go off with his two little boys. You have

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Speaker 1: when you have two kids that are sub four years old, Uh,

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Speaker 1: anything's possible, it seems. Yeah. When you're taking shots at

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Speaker 1: him not coming how you are is taking a shot

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Speaker 1: at Simone trying to you know, give her give her

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Speaker 1: some help. That's Mark's wife for those that aren't aware

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Speaker 1: of the family structure. Uh okay, so yeah, good show.

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Speaker 1: Mark will be back Wednesday. I will be leaving for

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Speaker 1: vacation to Tajas, Texas, uh country that is south of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Will you or will you not be on a boat

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Speaker 1: drinking a beer with Cedric Benson at some point the

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Speaker 1: first two parts I probably will be said if I

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Speaker 1: could find said yes, But they're bailor people down in Texas,

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Speaker 1: the people I hang out with. Uh So, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Benson will be involved. We have a big

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Speaker 1: show today, big show. We're going to talk about Chris

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Speaker 1: slings Piece on the comeback Player of the Year. You

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Speaker 1: going to really get into it and chew on it

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Speaker 1: which is I don't think we've ever done that before

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Speaker 1: in the show. We've taken phone calls for of course,

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Speaker 1: win West's toaster, which, by the way, the gold Standard

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Speaker 1: is back next Monday, a week from today, back better

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Speaker 1: than ever. Can't wait. How's that going? By the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's all right, we've only lost a few

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Speaker 1: good men to the elimination chamber. But you know that

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Speaker 1: that gold Standard elimination Chamber is one of the most

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Speaker 1: frightening places in the world. It's the price of success.

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Speaker 1: You know. We run a Pete Carroll like combine up there.

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Speaker 1: We signed everyone up, but you know, not everyone can hang.

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Speaker 1: When you said you renovated it, what what was it?

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Speaker 1: Just putting more spikes on the walls and new whips

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Speaker 1: fire chamber area pretty much? Yeah, you know have you

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Speaker 1: do you remember the hit nineties Nickelodeon show Guts. I

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Speaker 1: and it's very Chris Westling connecting on this, I could tell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what's Nickelodeon? I never did watch Nickelodeon. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna get uh some phone calls in in there.

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Speaker 1: But uh, and also, you know, we're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about making the leap, which has come. We

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Speaker 1: had a big meeting of the minds and that's coming

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Speaker 1: on the NFL dot com backslash at L page, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about our meeting that we had.

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Speaker 1: But before any of that, the gold standard, how about

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Speaker 1: we do some news. The Seattle Seahawks are no longer

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Speaker 1: interested in Jeremichael Finley, the former Packers tight end, visited

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Speaker 1: insider Ian Rap Report reported Sunday per source informed of

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Speaker 1: the team's thinking that the Seahawks are out on the

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Speaker 1: You can have ten million dollars tax free and never

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Speaker 1: behind the glass watch Silicon Valley on HBO? We're going

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Speaker 1: to eventually everyone should watch it. Season finale. He just

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Speaker 1: occurred on Sunday. But it's very interesting. In that show,

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Speaker 1: exactly what I thought of with Jemichael Finley. Ten million

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Speaker 1: he won't be cleared nearly as easily as he thinks

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Speaker 1: that's different. I'm sure they I'm sure that's a major

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Speaker 1: at this time, who have you said at more market value,

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Speaker 1: with some weird west Uh stipulation you put in there.

428
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Speaker 1: I can't remember what is the what is it again?

429
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: It's very simple. If Brian Hoyer starts over at healthy

430
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel in week one, I will eat myself. But

431
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: if Tyler Thigpen starts over at healthy john Thigpen doesn't

432
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: even have to be in the discussion because all it

433
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: is it starts over alright anyway, So before any of

434
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Speaker 1: that happened, before that shocking move of West taking on

435
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: that bet um, I had tried to get you to

436
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: take r G three Uh as comeback Player of the Year,

437
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: or actually I should say the field over r G three,

438
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: and you would not agree to it. True to for him,

439
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: you have him as number one on your list here

440
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: as the top ten candidates to win the Comeback Player

441
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: of the Year. Quarterbacks get extra points. They're in the

442
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: spotlight the most, and in the history of this ward,

443
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: they've basically won it every other year. So he's coming

444
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: back from being the first player in NFL history to

445
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: be benched down the stretch for no reason at all.

446
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: He's coming back from a bad season, and then they

447
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: don't call it a benching. He's coming back from what

448
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: did they call that again? That wouldn't conscious uncoupling. I

449
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: mean when they that, we've almost forgotten it at this point.

450
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: That was one of the strangest NFL stories of the

451
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: last decade. And when Kyle Shanahan, you know, said that

452
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: Manzel reminded him a lot of r G three I loved.

453
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I forget who it was. But someone tweeted back to

454
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Speaker 1: that mean they're gonna sit him when healthy the last

455
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Speaker 1: three weeks this season. Yeah, I thought there was four. Um,

456
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: here is the top ten. I'll run it down real

457
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: quick and then Greg, maybe you could shoot something out

458
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: off it. R G three one, Gronk A two, which

459
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: makes sense. Julio Jones three, DeMarcus Ware four, Michael Vick five,

460
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin, Clay Matthews, Von Miller at eight. He's a

461
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: sleeper if he comes back healthy and motivated and goes nuts.

462
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Percy Harvid nine, Aaron Rodgers ten. Aaron Rodgers. That would

463
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: be surprising. Yeah, I think I don't know if he

464
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: missed quite enough time seven games, but I think the

465
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: voters were probably holding against him. That he came back

466
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: and was instrumental in them winning the NFC, then Percy

467
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: Harvan has to be eliminated to right. That's why I

468
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: had them so far down on the list because Harvin

469
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: basically didn't play during the regular season but was huge

470
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. I think Miller is a sleeping

471
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: giant here. His his injury was so late in the

472
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Speaker 1: season that unless he's got like Adrian Peterson alien DNA,

473
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be like explosive in

474
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Speaker 1: week one. But also raises a moral question. Can people

475
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Speaker 1: be coming back from their own substance abuse problems or

476
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: suspensions like you, Does that count as a comeback? I

477
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: think it probably does well. The he missed games for

478
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: that too, right, But the a c L terror is

479
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: what he's really coming back from. He had already come

480
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: back from the suspension by mid season. Hey, this comeback

481
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: Player of the Year is pretty nebulous. As you say,

482
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: you can just come up with anything, Gronk. The problem

483
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: with him is do we think he's gonna be back

484
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: in Week one? If he is, and he actually played

485
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: a healthy season, I would take my chances with him

486
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: over r G three, just because I think he's a

487
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: better player. R G three has so much going for

488
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: him now. I mean he was he was probably the

489
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: most spectacular player in the league in two thousand twelve.

490
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: Now he has way better weapons than he's ever had.

491
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: The only thing that spooks me, and I will say this,

492
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I have these bailor ties now through marriage.

493
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: So I root for r G three, I really do.

494
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: And I think he seems like a dude. It almost

495
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: seems too perfect. It's like to set up well, set

496
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: up for him and whatever things seem like they're absolutely

497
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: gonna happen, it doesn't always play out that way. Is

498
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: anyone else saying he's gonna be comeback player of the

499
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: year beside me? Does anyone else talking about this besides us?

500
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't think anyone's even thinking

501
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: about the thing that could get in his way is

502
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: just what we were worried about him last year. Is

503
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: he got to develop into a great quarterback. Is what

504
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: we saw in his first year that repeatable? Is there

505
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: a chance he could just be mediocre again on a

506
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Speaker 1: on a below average team. None of us expect the

507
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Redskins to be particularly good. You do, yes, how good?

508
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: I think they easily threatened the Eagles for the title.

509
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: All right, Ben, how about Eli Manning, who's on West's

510
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: more players coming back the first name there. He's got

511
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: the quarterback things, So you don't need to necessarily be

512
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: an all time player coming off an absolutely terrible season. Uh.

513
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, like that guy has shown statistically that he

514
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: could put up numbers, and you know, you a lot

515
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: of people argue whether he's great or good or not.

516
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: But if he does return to the Eli that put

517
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: up numbers and the Giants are back in the playoffs,

518
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: he seems like he could be in a good position.

519
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: That would essentially be just repeating the Philip Rivers year.

520
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: His offensive line fell ap part his receivers weren't very

521
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: good last year, which is exactly what Rivers dealt with.

522
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: I just can't put Eli Manning on a positive list.

523
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: I think where is a great choice to Marcus where

524
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: going to Denver where he's going to be the center

525
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: of attention. But in this way, if he has a

526
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: good season for them, he's got to be near the

527
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: top of the list. I don't I don't want to

528
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: pull a negative Sessler, by the way, but I just

529
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: have doubts about that guy ever staying healthy for sixteen games. See.

530
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: I have more doubts of Michael Vick actually playing well

531
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: enough to Whitney Ward. I think that's a strong candidate.

532
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: If he had a good season, people would love that.

533
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: Doubts whether it'll happen for him. And he started about

534
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: ninth on this list, and then I realized much studies

535
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: showed the quarterback gets such an edge scientist, My studies

536
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: shows your hypotheses revealed. Yes, I know nothing about science.

537
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh yes you do, sir. Anything else, Greg Julio Jones

538
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: another strong one. We've kind of forgotten about him. The

539
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: wide receivers coach for the Falcon said something interesting, Uh

540
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: this weekend, I just want to read a quote that

541
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: I found somewhat interesting. We'll be watching him a little bit,

542
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of standing on pins and needles. I think if

543
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: he jumps in the air to catch the ball, if

544
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: he jumps on top of some defensive back and some

545
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: DBS under him, you're nervous. Obviously it's not h You

546
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: know a crazy quote that makes you nervous about Julio Jones.

547
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: But he's not back playing yet, and the you have

548
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: a coach acknowledging that even when he is back, there's

549
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: still some concern about how that foot will react. I mean,

550
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: that's just something interesting to keep in mind moving forward.

551
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: I have a question. Does anyone ever won a Rookie

552
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: of the Year and comeback Player of the Year in

553
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: their first three years in the league. It seems crazy.

554
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: That's a good question. We're gonna miss this gold standard

555
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: taking a shot at you. I wonder basically taking a

556
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: shot at West, questioning the three on this doubleheader off

557
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: call the gold Center a little punk like Greg did?

558
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought that a fair question. Okay, it's hard to

559
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: imagine that would be true that that could have ever

560
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: happened much less than the first three years. Maybe a

561
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: season as good as r G three as a rookie,

562
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: So you have to have an amazing rookie season, most

563
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: likely suffer a serious injury your second season, then returned

564
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: to being a great player in your third season. It

565
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: seems like that could have happened through the year. Is

566
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: it just a matter did they Cook would have come back?

567
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Greggy Cook? How about poor Terry Robiski, by the way,

568
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: he used to be getting some you know you mentioned

569
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: the wide receiver's coach. Without used to be a guy

570
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: who got a bunch of head coach interviews. Now never

571
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: hear from him. He has to see his son Brian

572
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: get cut from six seven different teams in the NFL.

573
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: Life is t rob Any? You know, I think he's

574
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: going all right, Hey, gold standards, the gold centered. You

575
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: know what, let's do some phone calls. We have such

576
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: a great listenership. Were so grateful, including to the people

577
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: in Canada. I will say, because there was some insinuation

578
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: among people in social media that I was somehow denigrating

579
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: the Great White North, which couldn't be further from the truth.

580
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: I love Canada. I just had a you know, I

581
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: had a girl there and it didn't work out. But

582
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: you know who doesn't love Canada. Whenever, like my wife

583
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: and I are talking about someone and we realize, oh

584
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: we were you know, you surprisingly like them or they

585
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: seem surprisingly nice, then there's always that moment where we

586
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: look at it, Oh he must be Canadian or she

587
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: must be Canadian. That's always the answer to why you

588
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: like someone? So why do you hate America so much?

589
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I like Americans too, but Canadians they always just have

590
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: that little extra. No, I agree. I haven't yet to

591
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: meet a bad Canadian. Uh, they're battied. Average is much higher.

592
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: It's been a great week for Canada to two tennis

593
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: players into the quarterfinals. I can't believe we've got this

594
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: far into the show without Greg talking about the French Open.

595
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I just read Agassi's autobiographer hour going deep into We'll

596
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: get into that afterwards. I do want to know about

597
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: his wig because I heard there's a great piece of

598
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: that about it piece. Alright, gold center, who do we

599
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: have on the phone. Let's talk to some people. It's

600
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: get it's important to stay in touch. We don't want

601
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: to be in some Ivory tower disconnected from the populace. Yep.

602
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: First up, we've got Indie Sarah Salt of the Earth.

603
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be closer to the ground. Forget Ivory Tower. This

604
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: woman is she? You know, she's an a t L

605
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: favorite and I'm glad that we get to put her

606
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: a long time listener and read her and a music expert. Alright,

607
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: so it's here, let's here from her, all right? Here

608
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: she is Indie Sarah, are you there? Hello? This is exciting.

609
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: We've we've known you as a Twitter follower for a

610
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: long time. It's an I or or it should be

611
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: an honor for you because you're the first ever caller

612
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: in this podcast history. Yes, right for a mail back

613
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: type of man. Yeah, and uh from Indianapolis in Indiana.

614
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Does that mean you're a cults fan? No? No, I'm

615
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: of the opinion Dan Quayle. Is that, Um, your Packer fan?

616
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: And then according to Twitter, you are a indie rock mommy,

617
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: resident do gooder and professional nerd. That's all great. Who

618
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: what is your favorite band of all time? Well, uh,

619
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: it's probably super Chunk, but um, the snobby answers the

620
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: Pixie so super Trump Superchunk. It almost want on West's

621
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: radar for a second there. But then, um, all right,

622
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: so you are a Frank Black fan and you are

623
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: a Packers fan, and now you will talk to us.

624
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: What's going on? Do you have anything to say? Any questions?

625
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: What's going on? I do a question? Um, actually I'm

626
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: in a comference room. Uh, this is this is the

627
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: day before my last day on this job. So bustedeted.

628
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It doesn't matter. It was worth it

629
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: for us. Well, we hope that doesn't happen. But if

630
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: it does happen. Whatever. Yeah, so what's up? So? Um, well,

631
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: what would you guys be doing if you weren't professional

632
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: sports writers? Would you be sitting in a cubicle like me?

633
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I've already done my time in a cubicle. Yeah,

634
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: well and now I'm doing it again. Yeah, Greg, you're

635
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you're answer. That's a good question, that's a great question.

636
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I shudder to think about that. I think i'd be

637
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: working in television, in the sports television, hopefully producing. It

638
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be too much different, but it maybe more behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, uh, because that was sort of the track

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Speaker 1: I started on and it was doable, So that would

641
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Speaker 1: have been somewhat acceptable, but not nearly as fun as this.

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Speaker 1: All right, West, I can tell you that I would

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Speaker 1: not go back to the post office. I might become

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Speaker 1: a bartender at some point to get by, But I

645
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Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this. That was gonna

646
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: be a librarian. I was going back to school for

647
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: library science when Greg hired me at road a world

648
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: like seven years ago. Wow. Wow, I could see that,

649
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: Like my dream would be owning my own bookstore. But

650
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: that's the type of thing that you don't actually do.

651
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: It just sounds nice. So I wasn't going to answer

652
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: that I could see opening up a restaurant too, I was.

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like I always kind of had

654
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: a dream of opening a like a bar and grill

655
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: down on the Jersey Shore or something. Maybe one day

656
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: when there's multiple millions in the bank, I could do it,

657
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: because then it will almost certainly fail and you would

658
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Speaker 1: be the ultimate bartender that maybe my wife could be

659
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: the cook. Oh we're onto something. I'm showing. Why not

660
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: be around the league bar once the kids get a

661
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: little older, you know? And I actually have a hook.

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00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: I have a hook to this bar and grilled that

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Speaker 1: I won't reveal on air because it's an idea that's

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Speaker 1: a million dollar idea that I can't share with the masses.

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Speaker 1: I have a standing offer from a man in North

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Speaker 1: Carolina from twenty years ago to be a bartender at

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00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: this guy's place. That's awesome. You can't just walking to

668
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: huck a Poos and and say I demand a job.

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Speaker 1: I usually just walk into hucka Poos, walk behind the

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Speaker 1: bar and get my own beer. I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: something huck a Poo or something Tybee Island related, would

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Speaker 1: seem to be fit you. Yes, yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 1: a doc guy, like a guy telling stories on the dock. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't even be perfect. They don't really pay for that.

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00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: But this would say this, this is the first professional

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Speaker 1: rock contour. It would be a union job Indy. Sarah,

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00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling. And it doesn't sound

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00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: like you got canned, so no, one's still good. Oh good,

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00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: So best of law with wherever you're going next. And

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening and reading and everything. Okay, great,

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00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: do you guys have a good day. Thanks Sarah, Thank you,

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00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: Sarah Man. Why can't everybody be like that in the world,

683
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: such a nice person? You could tell residents too good

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00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: or I don't have an answer for them. Who else?

685
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: Let's get another person on the line. All right, we

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Speaker 1: have a gentleman named Patrick from Edmonton, Canada. Patrick, welcome

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: to the Around the League podcast about. Thank you for

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00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: having me about. We were just talking about how much

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00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: we liked Canadians. Yeah. Actually, there was confusion over whether

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00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: or not you get podcasts or something in the last one,

691
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: so I'm confirming that's good. Now we learned. Actually, I

692
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Speaker 1: was wondering if Canada had that there was a big

693
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Speaker 1: fan base in Canada, and then Great confirmed it via

694
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: hard data that it is. So thank you. Yeah, no, Patrick,

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: So what is up? What do you gotta say? I'm

696
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: just chicken ass? Can I say that? I don't know?

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Let it ride? Um no, man, I'm just killing time

698
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: right now. I'm about to go get a subway sandwich

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00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: to subway sandwich. That's that's good, and that's good. Are

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Speaker 1: you going high octane on that sandwich? Patrick? Absolutely? As

701
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: much meat as possible. I was going to say, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's such thing as a high octane

703
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: subway sound Now, are they a sponsor of ours? Now?

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the clear, Actually, we have a hot sauce

705
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: up here. You just don't have. And really that's an

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00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: outrage up the octane. Wow, that's good. So, Patrick, if

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Speaker 1: you had one question that you could ask to the heroes,

708
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: what would it be? Because now as now as your chance,

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00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: um my one question for West specifically would be, do

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00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: you know how bad you hurt my feelings when you

711
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: rag on Bengals fans Bengals tattoo and it hurts me

712
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: to the core when you basically are telling you Santa

713
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: doesn't exist every season, Patrick, that is that is a

714
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: horrible thing that you have to deal with in your life.

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00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley answer to it. That's a that's a fair question.

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00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: I do not know how bad I hurt your feelings.

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00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: That would be my aunts. Uh, you know it's something

718
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: that's rooted deep inside of me. I I have my

719
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: feelings hurt. You know. It was the crash side of

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00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: unrequited love Paul Brown Stadium. So I guess I lash

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00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: out because, um, I have had my heartbroken. So that

722
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: would be my apology to you. He still has unresolved feelings, Patrick,

723
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: and he pretends that he's ambivalent, but really he has

724
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: strong negative feelings, which is the flip side of love.

725
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: And there's it's uh, some unresolved stuff going on. So

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00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're bringing this to the forefront. He is

727
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: the kid that goes the first one to find out

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00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that Santa doesn't exist and goes to the party. It

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00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: tells everyone. Is that true, Chris Wesley? Have you know?

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Speaker 1: I would put it this way, if you were in

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00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the mid to late nineties and you stayed

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00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: loyal to the Bengals, you were hurting all fans if

733
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: you stayed loyal to what they were doing. Have you

734
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: run into this issue with your brothers, Chris, who many

735
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: of whom are big time Bengals fans, some have season

736
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: tickets and some listening to the podcast. Do they get

737
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: annoyed by your anti Bengals further, they no, they don't.

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00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: My uh. The Westling clan are all critical thinkers and

739
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: they understand where I'm coming from with my Bengals hate,

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00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: but they that doesn't mean they're not going to stop

741
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: rooting for them. Patrick, before you go, it says according

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00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: to your Twitter profile at the quarterback, that's ko or

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Speaker 1: d y Uh. I sing songs with my best friends.

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00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: If you could sing one song with your best friend,

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: who would it be? Um? Well, luckily I put that

746
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: to the test last matic karaoke. I don't remember it,

747
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: but the footage was saying glamorous by Fergie, So I

748
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: guess that's your thoughts for glasses hideous? I think I

749
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: think less and Patrick, we need to get him on

750
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: the got him on a podcast together. It would be

751
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: Great'd be the new Mike and the Mad Duck. All right, Patrick,

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00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: thank you very much, buddy. We appreciate your listening and uh,

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00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: go Canada. Than should we take one more call? Yeah,

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00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: let's do it. It's do one more. Let's do one more.

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00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna go now to a gentleman named Zach. So

756
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I realized I'm putting myself in Jeffrey here might not

757
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: be my favorite Zach of Around the League after this

758
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: would hurt. Wow, I don't know who's under more pressure.

759
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: Now take let's take a risk here is Zach? Are

760
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: you there? What's up? You're you're you're living with the guys.

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00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: What's up, Zach, buddy? Welcome to the Around the League Podcast? Oh?

762
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: I thought I'd never make it true story Zach was

763
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: on hold for seven hours before he got on. That

764
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: is not true, but cool. Actually, just stay on hold, Zach.

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00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: What you are from Indiana? Correct? Another Indiana fan? Are

766
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: you a Cults fan? Oh? Actually I was born in Baltimore,

767
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: so that wasn't tolerated in my household. Yeah, the original

768
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: Indianapolis called or the Baltimore Colts. Sure, sure, of course

769
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: some throwback knowledge. You should be on little little effect

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00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: there keeping out you're filibustering. Who's your team? Then? Oh?

771
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: Baltiore Ravens. Yeah. Oh, you're a Ravens guy, got you now? Yeah,

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00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't need the filibuster that. We all figured that

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00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: out before Dan. It was it was coming together in

774
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: slow still blowing. Dan's mind used to be in Baltimore.

775
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: What what's going on? Do you have anything comment or

776
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: question or whatever? Well, you know what, I wasn't vetted

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00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: for this. I didn't know what was coming gold standards standard.

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00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Uh uh. He threw me under the bus here. Got

779
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: to keep him on their toes out first. Yeah, yeah, sure, Okay,

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00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: this one's going to my little brother Eli elite Willie Um.

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00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, hey, brag about being on

782
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the PO podcast. Already warned him, but just in case

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00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: you didn't believe me, well, you gotta come with the

784
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: question here or else? Are you risk getting cut out

785
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: of the podcast? I don't want to get cut I

786
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: don't want this on the on the cutting room floor.

787
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I like the Zack on Zack crime involved here. I

788
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: think he just he would wanted to stay the number

789
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: one Zach, so he kind of you know, are you in?

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00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: Go ahead? I got a question for you before Ravens fan. Um,

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00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: besides ray Lewis, do any of you have a favorite

792
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Ravens player of all time. It's the short list of

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00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: top Ravens players. Were a new team, right, were you

794
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: by any chance at the Ray Rice press conference a

795
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago? You know what, I wasn't invited. I

796
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't like the Ravens. I never did.

797
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Zach, but I've always had an

798
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: issue with the Ravens, maybe because they always beat the Jets.

799
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to the other two gentlemen in the room.

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: It's hard not to love ed Reid in general, but

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I ever thought of him as my

802
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: favorite Raven At the time, I had a jones for

803
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Mark Clayton. I thought he was going to be great.

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00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was convinced Mark Clayton was

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00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: for some reason was the apple of my receiver I

806
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: for that year or two, but didn't really come through. Yeah,

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00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: that's a good question, Jonathan Ogden. But how fun is

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00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: as a left tackle to watch? Ed Reid was great? Yeah?

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: Ed Reid was awesome, But I don't know that he

810
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: was ever one of my favorites. I always kind of

811
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: like Chris McAllister, just because his style of play, and

812
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: how I like guys that are talkative. How about how

813
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: about moder Jed Reid. Do you think he's gonna make

814
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: that comeback? No, I don't think he'll ever play again.

815
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: I think I think the gas tank was unempty with

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00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Houston and the Jets last year. How about Dennis Pitta

817
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Immortal Ring of Honor? Remember just put them put the

818
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: bust in Canton up right now. You almost have to

819
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: go defense with this ants unless you're a big Jamal

820
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Lewis fan or who else. Dahlias Thomas was fun at

821
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: the time, but his Patriots days have ruined him in

822
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: my eyes. But at Dahlias Thomas was another guy, Michael Terry,

823
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Peter Bullware. What about special teams? Dave's astadill I was

824
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: actually the gold standard? Alright, it's official gold standard remains

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00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: top sack I. Actually, Jermaine Lewis was awfully good for

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Speaker 1: a lot of years as a kick return. Alright, Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl he did, he did, Zach you uh, you put

828
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: up a great fight against the gold standard. He came

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00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: out with a big clutch Special Team's answer to retain

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Speaker 1: the ZACT title. But advantage he did, He certainly did.

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Speaker 1: But hey, Matt thank you very much for calling in

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00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: and thank you for listening. Oh thanks for having me

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00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: let his act later. All right, gentlemen, let's get out

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Speaker 1: of here. By the way, before we go, we I

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Speaker 1: said I was gonna metch. I'll just mention it. In

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Speaker 1: passing the Making the Leap, we have select did the

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Speaker 1: players that will be this year's around like making the

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Speaker 1: Leap candidates, which basically, Greg, what is the making What

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00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: does it mean to make the Leap? I mean to

840
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Speaker 1: a player that is on there rise of their career

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Speaker 1: that it's about to come into the national consciousness a

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00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: little more and we're gonna help push them a long way.

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Speaker 1: We think they're gonna have a great two thousand sounds

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Speaker 1: about right. So we got that will start rolling out

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Speaker 1: next week on the website and we'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: it more. But just know that we had a high

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Speaker 1: octane meeting where we really hashed it out. Feelings were hurt,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't matter, so it was all for the

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Speaker 1: greater good to the web. Oh yeah, people are hurt.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick told me privately that he was very upset.

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Speaker 1: You and Patrick and private talks again. As Vikings and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars lead the list, of most players on the making

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Speaker 1: the leap. Very good, all right, So we will be

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Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. I am heading off on vacation as

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to Texas. But the three gentlemen

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Speaker 1: in this room are going to hold it down as

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Speaker 1: is the old standards. So until Wednesday, this Dan Hanson

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Speaker 1: signing off were the mailman and the boss and the

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Speaker 1: gold standard. And thanks again to everybody that called in

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Speaker 1: until Wednesday. It was set in in Oxford, Oxford,