Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. On this Thursday, May fifteenth, day four of
Speaker 1: the Diddy trial, and day three was a doozy once again.
Speaker 1: Robes Cassie Ventura A scheduled to continue her testimony on
Speaker 1: this day. But what we heard from her yesterday that
Speaker 1: we're going to go through here for our listeners, Robes,
Speaker 1: this was downright difficult. This stuff is hard to hear.
Speaker 2: You know, I was just imagining what she's been going
Speaker 2: through here. I think she's been testifying now if you
Speaker 2: count Tuesday and Wednesday, she's been on the stand for
Speaker 2: nine hours. This is a woman who is eight and
Speaker 2: a half months pregnant, and she is talking about some
Speaker 2: of the most devastating, unthinkable things that anyone could live through,
Speaker 2: talking about wanting to die by suicide, wanting to end things.
Speaker 2: That's how bad they got, and she's reliving it all
Speaker 2: in front of the world.
Speaker 1: You're say, in front of the world, and also in
Speaker 1: front of our husband. Her husband has been say in
Speaker 1: that courtroom. We're going to talk about him a little
Speaker 1: bit more here in a moment, but he's having to
Speaker 1: sit in there, and it's just some of the details,
Speaker 1: and we do want to warn you here some of
Speaker 1: the details you're going to hear are very disturbing, could
Speaker 1: be triggering for some people as well, but it's part
Speaker 1: of what she said on the stand yesterday. And we
Speaker 1: remind you as well that cameras are not allowed in
Speaker 1: the courtroom, so we are having to depend on reporters
Speaker 1: who are in there giving their individual accounts. Now you
Speaker 1: have to go search through a bunch of places and
Speaker 1: a bunch of websites to get all the accounts and
Speaker 1: get kind of a better idea general sense of what
Speaker 1: happened in the courtroom, and that takes a lot of work,
Speaker 1: so that we were trying to provide a service here
Speaker 1: if you will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I have been going through and you
Speaker 2: really do have to go through all the different media
Speaker 2: outlets that are there to get a full picture of
Speaker 2: what was said, what the reactions were in the courtroom,
Speaker 2: from the jurors to even Diddy himself. And so yes,
Speaker 2: we're hoping that for you all, you can just listen
Speaker 2: to this and have a comprehensive view of what happened
Speaker 2: in the courtroom because we did all the research for you.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, yes day, she wrapped up, So the prosecution
Speaker 1: wrapped up yesterday and Today is the day for cross examination.
Speaker 1: That's expected to go on for the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: So she's gonna you talked about ten hours already, Robe,
Speaker 1: She's gonna be up there for another ten plus wow,
Speaker 1: probably through the week. But yesterday was bombshell after bombshell
Speaker 1: after bombshell. There was more detail about drugs, injuries, even
Speaker 1: that she got from those sex parties, those so called
Speaker 1: freak offs. She talked about Stintson rehab she had, she
Speaker 1: says she's been through trauma therapy, talked about, like you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, Robes being suicidal. She also gave details about
Speaker 1: several alleged assaults by Ditty, several and at one point
Speaker 1: she detailed an instance in which she claimed he raped her.
Speaker 1: It was I mean, this stuff is just it's heinous,
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. These are allegations. Obviously he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: chance to defend himself. But also yesterday still images so
Speaker 1: so called freak coughs. We should let you know. The
Speaker 1: whole courtroom was not allowed to see these images, but
Speaker 1: jurors and we'll get into here in a moment, got
Speaker 1: to see them, and they had some, according to all accounts,
Speaker 1: some pretty obvious. I guess you could say probably visceral
Speaker 1: reactions to what they were seeing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and that was accounted for by people who were
Speaker 2: in the courtroom. You mentioned her husband being in the courtroom.
Speaker 2: He did step out, as was pre arranged between the
Speaker 2: defense and the prosecution that he would step out while
Speaker 2: she recounted what she claims was a rape by Sean Didtycom.
Speaker 2: So he did leave for that portion. But you're right,
Speaker 2: he has been witnessing and listening to everything, all of
Speaker 2: her testimony up until that point. But when she talks
Speaker 2: about the assaults and she really describes the injuries, it's devastating.
Speaker 2: And something else she talked about was at one of
Speaker 2: the freak offs, and this is early on. She claims
Speaker 2: that Diddy went through her phone and found out that
Speaker 2: she was dating someone else, rapper called Kid Cutting, and
Speaker 2: she said she started dating him in twenty eleven, but
Speaker 2: she didn't tell Diddy. She claims when he saw this
Speaker 2: on her phone, he reacted so violently that he lunged
Speaker 2: at her with a wine opener that quarkscrew. She says
Speaker 2: she was able to get away and actually went to
Speaker 2: another hotel, but there were threats that followed.
Speaker 1: She said these were threats that were there throughout her
Speaker 1: relationship with him, those threats to release sex videos of
Speaker 1: her to the public, But it also came with physical threats.
Speaker 1: This time, she said he threatened to hurt her, threatened
Speaker 1: to hurt kid Cutty. She said he would just not
Speaker 1: calm down. She says he was absolutely irate, to a
Speaker 1: point that he was in one point they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be discussing this, he was still so angry and upset.
Speaker 1: He kicked her in the back, causing bruises and she
Speaker 1: fell to the ground. Now, she detailed several assaults robes
Speaker 1: and all of them, there was one hitting her repeatedly
Speaker 1: in the head, talking about kicking her. We talked about
Speaker 1: ten years this young lady went through. And again it's
Speaker 1: very difficult to at times. Everybody's innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 1: And this isn't a trial about domestic violence, actually, but
Speaker 1: what she's described and your heart, your heart breaks, and
Speaker 1: you can't help. But I can't imagine listening to her
Speaker 1: versus reading her accounts. And yesterday they said she was
Speaker 1: more stoic, she kept it together a little better. A
Speaker 1: few times she did cry, but what she described on
Speaker 1: the stand all day yesterday was chilling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's remarkable. She even claims that Diddy was responsible
Speaker 2: for blowing up Kid Cutty's car, and she detailed what
Speaker 2: she knew of that. But she talks about when he
Speaker 2: was so irate, you say that he couldn't calm down.
Speaker 2: She says she returned to that hotel room that she
Speaker 2: escaped to and found that someone had urinated all over
Speaker 2: the floor. The furniture in the hotel room had been broken.
Speaker 2: Someone had even taken a dump in the toilet to
Speaker 2: have I don't know a better way to discribe what
Speaker 2: she says she found, but she had taken pictures of
Speaker 2: those bruises and she showed them to the jury, and
Speaker 2: that is when later she got into the allegations and
Speaker 2: she described what she says was a rape in twoenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: This is of course, when her husband left, but she
Speaker 2: says that she and Diddy had gone to dinner in
Speaker 2: Malibu for what she was thinking would be a closure
Speaker 2: conversation because at that point she was all ready in
Speaker 2: a relationship with her now husband, so this was kind
Speaker 2: of like a goodbye, let's end his friends kind of
Speaker 2: a dinner, And she says that he was upbeat and
Speaker 2: playful during the dinner.
Speaker 1: Well, that was interesting, she said. They was actually going well,
Speaker 1: maybe even surprisingly so, but then everything took a turn.
Speaker 1: When he was supposed to drive her home, he went
Speaker 1: into the home. She said, he raped it right there
Speaker 1: on the living room floor. She described at times she
Speaker 1: said she didn't recognize who was there with her. I
Speaker 1: think she described it even as like his eyes were black.
Speaker 2: Yep, she said that didn't.
Speaker 1: Know who the guy was. Said she cried, I threw out.
Speaker 1: She said it was quick, but didn't even think he
Speaker 1: noticed that she was crying.
Speaker 2: And she said she said no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: She there was no question she told him no. And
Speaker 2: she also admitted this, which you know, I'm sure she
Speaker 2: knows under cross examination this will all come up. But
Speaker 2: she did say after that alleged rape, she was intimate
Speaker 2: with Diddy one other time voluntarily, which I'm sure will
Speaker 2: raise in eye ros and I'm sure the defense will
Speaker 2: go after that.
Speaker 1: But anybody who actually deals with women who deal with
Speaker 1: sexual assault will explain that very quickly, fairly easily, that
Speaker 1: that shouldn't surprise anyone. It doesn't take away from the
Speaker 1: fact that she was assaulted and that she was raped
Speaker 1: and that she did say no. And I think this
Speaker 1: is probably something over the years robes we have we
Speaker 1: have reported on, but they will absolutely tell you she's trapped,
Speaker 1: she's in. It doesn't take away that she was assaulted
Speaker 1: because she ends up still with the same person.
Speaker 2: That assaulted her. I mean, she has said throughout this
Speaker 2: entire time on the stand that she loved him, that
Speaker 2: she was in love with him, that she wanted a
Speaker 2: relationship with him. It still doesn't take away when you
Speaker 2: say no, it means no. And she also talked about
Speaker 2: some more details about just when she was physically assaulted.
Speaker 2: She claimed she had to wear makeup, she had to
Speaker 2: wear a different dress that she was planning to wear
Speaker 2: for a movie premiere to cover up the bruises. And
Speaker 2: that was right after that video that was shown that
Speaker 2: we've all seen. Unfortunately, that incident in the hotel room
Speaker 2: where he was seen kicking her and assaulting her. She
Speaker 2: had a movie premiere to go to. She said that
Speaker 2: the physical injuries she incurred were so significant she had
Speaker 2: to change her dress, she had to wear sunglasses, she
Speaker 2: had to wear significant makeup. But prosecutors pointed out on
Speaker 2: these pictures you could see bruises on her arms and
Speaker 2: on her leg still fight all the efforts she took
Speaker 2: to try and cover it up.
Speaker 1: And those pictures are out there for people to see,
Speaker 1: and you study and you squint, and I'm sure the
Speaker 1: defense will say, well, you can't really make out what
Speaker 1: that is, but you do clearly see something on her
Speaker 1: arm and on her leg. And they have, I mean,
Speaker 1: people have taken him and circled those particular spots in
Speaker 1: those particular images. I cannot have met. She said that
Speaker 1: was maybe the most important night of her life. It
Speaker 1: was very important for her career. She was starring in
Speaker 1: a movie. She was starring in a big Hollywood Perfect Matt,
Speaker 1: Perfect Match. She was the lead, she said that night,
Speaker 1: and I didn't give much clarity on the story, but
Speaker 1: she said she snuck into a popcorn closet at the
Speaker 1: movie theater that night because she needed to change into
Speaker 1: a different dress that was going to help her cover
Speaker 1: up something better for the after party. Cassie is in
Speaker 1: a you know, popcorn closet in a movie theater, trying
Speaker 1: to keep the secret that she was being beaten by
Speaker 1: the man she is in a public relationship with. Is
Speaker 1: what she claimed that is, like I said, bombshell after
Speaker 1: bombshell after bombshell. One other assault in twenty thirteen, she
Speaker 1: mentioned she actually attacked her while she was asleep. So
Speaker 1: she's dead asleep and here comes somebody beating on her.
Speaker 1: Her friends. She had friends in the place at the time,
Speaker 1: jumped on him, she said, to intervene to try to
Speaker 1: stop this, but she ended up with a gash in
Speaker 1: her head, didn't go to the er. He sent her
Speaker 1: to and paid for a plastic surgeon to fix her
Speaker 1: up after that assault that night. So she again we
Speaker 1: only describe it a few herobes, but she had incident
Speaker 1: after incident after incident, and there are several people, her mom,
Speaker 1: her friends, some people witnessed it, some people took the
Speaker 1: pictures for her of the bruises. She has a lot
Speaker 1: of people to back up what she say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you pointed out, if this were a domestic
Speaker 2: assault case, this would be a slam dunk case. There's
Speaker 2: a lot to prove here from the prosecution side. But
Speaker 2: my goodness, it's remarkable the evidence she has and her
Speaker 2: ability to recount what happened. I mean, my heart is
Speaker 2: racing when I hear what she went through. It's unthinkable.
Speaker 1: And you see the text there. This was shit, we say,
Speaker 1: is a part of all the evidence. But they shared
Speaker 1: this text message between Cassie and Diddy that was after
Speaker 1: one of these assaults, the text of which lets you
Speaker 1: know where her head was. And this is as well,
Speaker 1: robes that could be used as evidence. You don't send
Speaker 1: somebody this text unless something in particular is going on
Speaker 1: in your relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the text read you treat me like Ike Turner.
Speaker 2: And obviously most people are very familiar with the relationship
Speaker 2: between Icontina Turner. It was violent, it was abusive, it
Speaker 2: was physically abusive, and she still has that text and
Speaker 2: she shared it.
Speaker 1: In court, also shared in Cordy yesterday, at least with
Speaker 1: the jurors. Still images of those free calls not shown
Speaker 1: to the whole court room. As we mentioned, they have
Speaker 1: screens right in front of them. I think that was
Speaker 1: actually a delay one point, because they were trying to
Speaker 1: install those screens for the jurors. But she's almost walking
Speaker 1: them through what they're seeing in some of these images,
Speaker 1: and she's identifying people. See that's so and so on,
Speaker 1: and that so and so and that so and so on.
Speaker 1: But as we said, the other day. These were male
Speaker 1: escorts that were brought in a lot of times. Some
Speaker 1: of them she got familiar with, but she didn't know
Speaker 1: their real name. So to hear her in court saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's Islander right there. They're Skyler over there. And
Speaker 1: at one point she said to the jurors, yeah, that's me,
Speaker 1: as they were looking at these pictures. And look, we
Speaker 1: aren't in there to see the jurors, so we have
Speaker 1: to depend on the accounts from the reporters, and the
Speaker 1: reporters are telling us that, yeah, those jurors appeared to
Speaker 1: be a little shook about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were saying they got specific saying one female
Speaker 2: durwer actually let out a deep breath and put her
Speaker 2: hand on her chest as she looked at the image
Speaker 2: on that monitor. And then a male durer apparently looked
Speaker 2: at the screen and then his eyes quickly moved away.
Speaker 2: He couldn't look at the image. That's how difficult it was.
Speaker 2: They saw another duror writing on his notepad feverishly after
Speaker 2: seeing what he saw. So at the very least those images,
Speaker 2: just those still images, had such an impression left such
Speaker 2: an impression on Jurasia. They physically viscerally responded to what
Speaker 2: they were seeing.
Speaker 1: She got into and I guess this makes sense. We
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit yesterday, I believe robes
Speaker 1: about freey cough going for four days and sometimes thego
Speaker 1: for a day, day and a half, two three, but
Speaker 1: the longest she remembered was four And we were talking
Speaker 1: about just how physically exhausting that had to be, because
Speaker 1: she in fact said she was awake crawl of it
Speaker 1: because she stayed doped up on drugs and that was
Speaker 1: by design. But she went into yesterday's robot some details
Speaker 1: of what happened to her as a result of all
Speaker 1: of that physical exertion and activity and baby oil and
Speaker 1: sexual activity fluids. Yeah, and this stuff. This is frankly,
Speaker 1: it's just it's awful.
Speaker 2: Later, look, I mean, I mean, I hadn't even thought
Speaker 2: about this, but a lot of women know that uti
Speaker 2: are a part of having too much sex sometimes, and
Speaker 2: she said she had so many painful utiyes over this
Speaker 2: period and they got so bad that cipro, the strongest
Speaker 2: antibiotic you could possibly use, that that wouldn't even work.
Speaker 2: She said she had mouth sores. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: just so hard to hear and to imagine just what
Speaker 2: her body went through repeatedly going through NonStop sexual activities
Speaker 2: with different men. I mean, it's obviously the emotional trauma
Speaker 2: is there. She went to trauma therapy. She said she
Speaker 2: had to do several stints in rehab. She talked about
Speaker 2: the drugs that she was taking to stay up and
Speaker 2: to perform the way did he wanted her through or
Speaker 2: to disassociate herself. Yeah, Ketnemine was among them. She said
Speaker 2: she was vomiting. Her stomach was just wrecked from all
Speaker 2: of the drugs that she was taking.
Speaker 1: And didn't she say often that she's gotten sick before,
Speaker 1: and she was encouraged to come back or to keep going.
Speaker 2: We would throw up because the drugs were so much,
Speaker 2: and then he'd just say get back in there. And
Speaker 2: so it's not surprising that she then said she became suicidal.
Speaker 2: She said, I didn't want to be alive anymore. At
Speaker 2: that point, I couldn't take the pain that I was
Speaker 2: in anymore, and so I just tried to walk out
Speaker 2: the front door into traffic, like she would rather be
Speaker 2: hit by the proverbial bus than continue to live the
Speaker 2: way she was living.
Speaker 1: I just everybody has an opinion, and we always it's
Speaker 1: it's innocent until proven guilty. That's all legit. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's impossible to listen to the accounts
Speaker 1: of what this woman went through in her life, all allegedly,
Speaker 1: but still there is a collection of you have to
Speaker 1: take her at her word on some things, and some
Speaker 1: of it we have actually seen on video.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, we have video, we have photo,
Speaker 2: we have other people's accounts who can corroborate and validate
Speaker 2: what her experience was.
Speaker 1: Aside from a legal process. As a human being, your
Speaker 1: heartbreaks listening to Cassie as a human being. Forget music,
Speaker 1: legal guilty, not just as a human being. You cannot
Speaker 1: listen to this woman and not have your heartbreak.
Speaker 2: It's so true. And I think if we think that
Speaker 2: now hearing how she has testified under direct questioning, which
Speaker 2: is the softer, gentler kinder. You've got the prosecutors leading
Speaker 2: you and guiding you and supporting you as you tell
Speaker 2: your story. She is now about to be faced with
Speaker 2: the defense attorneys and cross examination, and what will probably
Speaker 2: what most people believe will be a huge sticking point
Speaker 2: is something she discussed at the end of her testimony yesterday,
Speaker 2: the settlement she received, we all thought she was getting
Speaker 2: the figure out there was that she got thirty million
Speaker 2: dollars from Diddy after she filed this lawsuit. She acknowledged
Speaker 2: for the first time ever that she received twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: And this is going to be something that Tenny Garrigos,
Speaker 2: who even alluded to in her opening statements that instead
Speaker 2: of Cassie going to the police, instead of Cassie seeking
Speaker 2: remedy through any sort of criminal accusation, she went for
Speaker 2: a money grab. She went for the money. She actually
Speaker 2: wrote a book and sent the book through her lawyer
Speaker 2: to Diddy and said, I should be compensated for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she wanted She essentially tried to sell him the
Speaker 1: right to the book. It look, it was a negotiating ploy.
Speaker 1: It was a tactic to get this money out of
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, if not, this is going to
Speaker 1: go out.
Speaker 2: She also said she wanted him to read her pain
Speaker 2: and understand what she actually went through because she didn't
Speaker 2: think he really got it, and apparently.
Speaker 1: He didn't from all reports, he didn't take it seriously.
Speaker 1: He didn't take the threat if you will seriously. But
Speaker 1: she filed a lawsuit. That thing was settled in twenty
Speaker 1: four hours once she filed that lawsuit, and the wheels
Speaker 1: absolutely came off. But again, like you said, the thirty
Speaker 1: million did come from She said that she initially wanted
Speaker 1: thirty million from him for the rights to the book.
Speaker 1: When they decided they were going to settle, she said
Speaker 1: she came up with that number just out of there.
Speaker 1: She didn't do any research or what she could get
Speaker 1: or what it was worth. She just came up with
Speaker 1: a number, and that's all.
Speaker 2: It was what she figured from her pain and suffering,
Speaker 2: that would thirty million a work, yes, that that would
Speaker 2: ease the pain enough where that would be a remedy
Speaker 2: where she could live with that and live with that
Speaker 2: kind of a settlement. So it ended up being twenty
Speaker 2: million dollars, And that was again the first time we
Speaker 2: had heard that and.
Speaker 1: Probably the first time she was legally allowed to speak
Speaker 1: about it. These settlements and whatnot, they often come with
Speaker 1: non disclosure agreements, with non disparagement agreements, and the only
Speaker 1: exception when you can speak about that agreement is if
Speaker 1: you were compelled to do so in a court of law,
Speaker 1: and that is what we have here. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we ever would have heard about this, No, probably not,
Speaker 1: never would have known this had she not been in
Speaker 1: court and under oath and required to testify. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she got the twenty million, and I think that was
Speaker 1: a surprise everybody to hear that number. But that's certainly
Speaker 1: was settled on. She's back today the cross examination. I mean,
Speaker 1: hold your breath because defense attorneys do what they do,
Speaker 1: and we have seen over the years it might be
Speaker 1: the most sympathetic victim you've ever heard from in your life,
Speaker 1: and then some defense attorney gets up there and rips
Speaker 1: them apart. Now, don't know how they're going to handle her,
Speaker 1: but they're going to do what they have to do
Speaker 1: to defend their guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's you know, the lead attorney is a
Speaker 2: very famous attorney's daughter, Tenny Geragos, the daughter of Mark Arraghos,
Speaker 2: who actually just was representing the Menendez brothers, who's represented
Speaker 2: Scott Peterson of course, OJ Simpson, et cetera. But we've
Speaker 2: got a Shapiro on that team as well. So they
Speaker 2: are seasoned and very well experienced lawyers. And the two
Speaker 2: lead ones are females, and that was by choice as well.
Speaker 2: So yes, we will be holding our breath to see
Speaker 2: what happens in that courtroom today. But there were some
Speaker 2: quotes that we would like to end this podcast with
Speaker 2: that we heard from Cassie yesterday really struck us, that
Speaker 2: really spoke to her personal trauma and what she's been
Speaker 2: living with.
Speaker 1: And the first one you're here put down because I
Speaker 1: thought it was so telling, and also we give us
Speaker 1: that word heartbreaking, but it was so telling. And then
Speaker 1: the last one we have here, it's kind of one
Speaker 1: of the closing statements she made that kind of brings
Speaker 1: it all home as well. But the first she said
Speaker 1: at one point it was terrifying. It's not normal constantly
Speaker 1: being bruised up by the person you love who says
Speaker 1: they love you. We have to remember there are certain times,
Speaker 1: have been several times where you're reminded this was a
Speaker 1: young woman who actually thought she was in love. She
Speaker 1: was with somebody that she maybe she was in love,
Speaker 1: but she was being treated by the person she loves
Speaker 1: in a way that obviously is inexcusable. But to hear
Speaker 1: her at moments talk about the best part of the
Speaker 1: freak off was time I got to spend with him,
Speaker 1: to hear her say in some moments, and this moment
Speaker 1: as well, constantly being bruised up by the person you
Speaker 1: love who says they love you. It's not normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is not. And she closed with this statement,
Speaker 2: I can't carry this anymore, the shame, the guilt. What's
Speaker 2: right is right and what's wrong is wrong. People aren't disposable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said so much of the time she has spent.
Speaker 1: You're just ashamed. You're embarrassed. She used that word embarrassed
Speaker 1: like that was one point. She described him watching a
Speaker 1: freak off video on a plane with other people around,
Speaker 1: just shit, kind of showing it and like it was
Speaker 1: not that she was just embarrassed.
Speaker 2: And that's actually a really good point you make, because
Speaker 2: she talked about people always ask why did you stay? Yes,
Speaker 2: she loved him, Yes, she wanted to make him happy.
Speaker 2: I think we can all understand that. But at a
Speaker 2: certain point, you're like, when the abuse gets so egregious,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you leave? Well, her career was hanging in
Speaker 2: the balance A and B those videos. She says he
Speaker 2: absolutely threatened to release those videos of her willingly having
Speaker 2: these types of sexual acts that most people would look
Speaker 2: at with a lot of judgment and it was too
Speaker 2: overwhelming for her to think about people other people seeing
Speaker 2: these videos of her. And that makes sense. I think
Speaker 2: so many women, anyone especially who's been in any similar
Speaker 2: situation or even is thinking, but knows that that is
Speaker 2: a very compelling reason to stay quiet.
Speaker 1: You said while he to why she stayed. People asked
Speaker 1: why she stayed. You mentioned the threat of this, but
Speaker 1: there was also the threat of physical violence, physical harm. Yes,
Speaker 1: living under thread. Look, this has been some compelling and
Speaker 1: just graphic and unbelievable stuff. And when you look at
Speaker 1: the pictures robes, when you go back and now you
Speaker 1: look at the pictures of her on a red carpet
Speaker 1: and go, wow, twenty four hours ago she was being beaten.
Speaker 1: And so some of these pictures are coming up and
Speaker 1: coming out. And you know, I told you about this
Speaker 1: song as well. I mean, you're looking at things differently
Speaker 1: hearing her story. There is a song I brought this up.
Speaker 1: I love this song. I've been listening to it for
Speaker 1: a decade plus. On one of Usher's old albums, it's
Speaker 1: called Little Freak. Usher is singing through this song about
Speaker 1: essentially having his woman go find him other people so
Speaker 1: they can all have sex together is the song. And
Speaker 1: there's a part where Nicki Minaj raps, I'm plotting on
Speaker 1: how I can take Cassie away from Diddy while she's
Speaker 1: singing about bringing other women and other people into the
Speaker 1: fray and a sexual experience. And I heard I'm like,
Speaker 1: why I never listened to that the same way that
Speaker 1: I'm listening to it now. But I encourage go listen
Speaker 1: to that song, folks, Little freak by Usher.
Speaker 2: It has a very different meaning. You said you thought
Speaker 2: it was one thing, and now you're thinking it might
Speaker 2: have been a minute completely the other. What was like
Speaker 2: saving her instead of stealing her or banning her, but
Speaker 2: saving her?
Speaker 1: Could that possibly have been the case? Could possibly have
Speaker 1: been the case?
Speaker 2: Possibly could have.
Speaker 1: So, folks, we will continue robes and I will continue
Speaker 1: to update you. I know it's hard out there to
Speaker 1: try to read all that information, but we are reading
Speaker 1: it every single day and want to continue to bring
Speaker 1: it to you here because we know there is a
Speaker 1: lot of interest and what's happening in the courtroom that
Speaker 1: is just that direction. As I point out the window
Speaker 1: of our apartment here in Lower Manhattan.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for listening, and we will keep you updated.
Speaker 2: Hope you all have a wonderful day to day