WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial Day 4: Cassie (Cont’d) 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.600 Hey, everybody. On this Thursday, May fifteenth, day four of 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.760 the Diddy trial, and day three was a doozy once again. 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.959 Robes Cassie Ventura A scheduled to continue her testimony on 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.479 this day. But what we heard from her yesterday that 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.520 we're going to go through here for our listeners, Robes, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.880 this was downright difficult. This stuff is hard to hear. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.160 You know, I was just imagining what she's been going 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.239 through here. I think she's been testifying now if you 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.879 count Tuesday and Wednesday, she's been on the stand for 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.199 nine hours. This is a woman who is eight and 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.279 a half months pregnant, and she is talking about some 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.600 of the most devastating, unthinkable things that anyone could live through, 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:53.440 talking about wanting to die by suicide, wanting to end things. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.120 That's how bad they got, and she's reliving it all 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.200 in front of the world. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.440 You're say, in front of the world, and also in 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.280 front of our husband. Her husband has been say in 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.160 that courtroom. We're going to talk about him a little 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.000 bit more here in a moment, but he's having to 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.880 sit in there, and it's just some of the details, 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.280 and we do want to warn you here some of 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.800 the details you're going to hear are very disturbing, could 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.200 be triggering for some people as well, but it's part 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.560 of what she said on the stand yesterday. And we 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.840 remind you as well that cameras are not allowed in 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.200 the courtroom, so we are having to depend on reporters 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.400 who are in there giving their individual accounts. Now you 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.399 have to go search through a bunch of places and 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.000 a bunch of websites to get all the accounts and 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.440 get kind of a better idea general sense of what 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.280 happened in the courtroom, and that takes a lot of work, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.720 so that we were trying to provide a service here 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:36.080 if you will. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.000 Yeah, you and I have been going through and you 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.240 really do have to go through all the different media 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.880 outlets that are there to get a full picture of 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.480 what was said, what the reactions were in the courtroom, 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.280 from the jurors to even Diddy himself. And so yes, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.800 we're hoping that for you all, you can just listen 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.520 to this and have a comprehensive view of what happened 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.360 in the courtroom because we did all the research for you. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.720 So, yeah, yes day, she wrapped up, So the prosecution 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.400 wrapped up yesterday and Today is the day for cross examination. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.000 That's expected to go on for the next couple of days. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.040 So she's gonna you talked about ten hours already, Robe, 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.240 She's gonna be up there for another ten plus wow, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:19.520 probably through the week. But yesterday was bombshell after bombshell 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:26.040 after bombshell. There was more detail about drugs, injuries, even 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.520 that she got from those sex parties, those so called 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.960 freak offs. She talked about Stintson rehab she had, she 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.880 says she's been through trauma therapy, talked about, like you 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.960 just mentioned, Robes being suicidal. She also gave details about 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.880 several alleged assaults by Ditty, several and at one point 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.320 she detailed an instance in which she claimed he raped her. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.640 It was I mean, this stuff is just it's heinous, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.720 it's disgusting. These are allegations. Obviously he hasn't had a 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.200 chance to defend himself. But also yesterday still images so 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.880 so called freak coughs. We should let you know. The 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.160 whole courtroom was not allowed to see these images, but 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.680 jurors and we'll get into here in a moment, got 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.920 to see them, and they had some, according to all accounts, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.880 some pretty obvious. I guess you could say probably visceral 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.240 reactions to what they were seeing. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.960 Yes, and that was accounted for by people who were 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.880 in the courtroom. You mentioned her husband being in the courtroom. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.960 He did step out, as was pre arranged between the 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.440 defense and the prosecution that he would step out while 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:30.320 she recounted what she claims was a rape by Sean Didtycom. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.359 So he did leave for that portion. But you're right, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.000 he has been witnessing and listening to everything, all of 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.080 her testimony up until that point. But when she talks 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:44.840 about the assaults and she really describes the injuries, it's devastating. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:49.160 And something else she talked about was at one of 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:53.560 the freak offs, and this is early on. She claims 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.400 that Diddy went through her phone and found out that 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:01.160 she was dating someone else, rapper called Kid Cutting, and 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.160 she said she started dating him in twenty eleven, but 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.440 she didn't tell Diddy. She claims when he saw this 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.920 on her phone, he reacted so violently that he lunged 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:14.920 at her with a wine opener that quarkscrew. She says 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.640 she was able to get away and actually went to 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.920 another hotel, but there were threats that followed. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.719 She said these were threats that were there throughout her 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.200 relationship with him, those threats to release sex videos of 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.720 her to the public, But it also came with physical threats. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.000 This time, she said he threatened to hurt her, threatened 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.320 to hurt kid Cutty. She said he would just not 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.599 calm down. She says he was absolutely irate, to a 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.640 point that he was in one point they were supposed 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.599 to be discussing this, he was still so angry and upset. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.200 He kicked her in the back, causing bruises and she 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:57.000 fell to the ground. Now, she detailed several assaults robes 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.520 and all of them, there was one hitting her repeatedly 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.760 in the head, talking about kicking her. We talked about 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.320 ten years this young lady went through. And again it's 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:12.600 very difficult to at times. Everybody's innocent until proven guilty. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.560 And this isn't a trial about domestic violence, actually, but 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.599 what she's described and your heart, your heart breaks, and 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.760 you can't help. But I can't imagine listening to her 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.400 versus reading her accounts. And yesterday they said she was 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.000 more stoic, she kept it together a little better. A 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.760 few times she did cry, but what she described on 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.159 the stand all day yesterday was chilling. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.880 Yeah, it's remarkable. She even claims that Diddy was responsible 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.279 for blowing up Kid Cutty's car, and she detailed what 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 she knew of that. But she talks about when he 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.520 was so irate, you say that he couldn't calm down. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.599 She says she returned to that hotel room that she 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.600 escaped to and found that someone had urinated all over 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.599 the floor. The furniture in the hotel room had been broken. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.839 Someone had even taken a dump in the toilet to 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.960 have I don't know a better way to discribe what 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.640 she says she found, but she had taken pictures of 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.960 those bruises and she showed them to the jury, and 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.240 that is when later she got into the allegations and 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.280 she described what she says was a rape in twoenty eighteen, 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.960 This is of course, when her husband left, but she 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.479 says that she and Diddy had gone to dinner in 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.040 Malibu for what she was thinking would be a closure 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.719 conversation because at that point she was all ready in 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.600 a relationship with her now husband, so this was kind 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.359 of like a goodbye, let's end his friends kind of 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.080 a dinner, And she says that he was upbeat and 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:38.040 playful during the dinner. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.680 Well, that was interesting, she said. They was actually going well, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.200 maybe even surprisingly so, but then everything took a turn. 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.040 When he was supposed to drive her home, he went 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.440 into the home. She said, he raped it right there 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.240 on the living room floor. She described at times she 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.320 said she didn't recognize who was there with her. I 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.839 think she described it even as like his eyes were black. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.719 Yep, she said that didn't. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.000 Know who the guy was. Said she cried, I threw out. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.520 She said it was quick, but didn't even think he 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.560 noticed that she was crying. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.600 And she said she said no, no, no, no, no, no. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.720 She there was no question she told him no. And 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.920 she also admitted this, which you know, I'm sure she 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.080 knows under cross examination this will all come up. But 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.880 she did say after that alleged rape, she was intimate 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:26.520 with Diddy one other time voluntarily, which I'm sure will 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.240 raise in eye ros and I'm sure the defense will 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:28.720 go after that. 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.000 But anybody who actually deals with women who deal with 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:37.200 sexual assault will explain that very quickly, fairly easily, that 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.520 that shouldn't surprise anyone. It doesn't take away from the 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.800 fact that she was assaulted and that she was raped 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.120 and that she did say no. And I think this 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.800 is probably something over the years robes we have we 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.440 have reported on, but they will absolutely tell you she's trapped, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.680 she's in. It doesn't take away that she was assaulted 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.960 because she ends up still with the same person. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.240 That assaulted her. I mean, she has said throughout this 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.440 entire time on the stand that she loved him, that 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.240 she was in love with him, that she wanted a 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.040 relationship with him. It still doesn't take away when you 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:21.200 say no, it means no. And she also talked about 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.920 some more details about just when she was physically assaulted. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.360 She claimed she had to wear makeup, she had to 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.840 wear a different dress that she was planning to wear 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.440 for a movie premiere to cover up the bruises. And 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.360 that was right after that video that was shown that 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.480 we've all seen. Unfortunately, that incident in the hotel room 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.480 where he was seen kicking her and assaulting her. She 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.319 had a movie premiere to go to. She said that 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.160 the physical injuries she incurred were so significant she had 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.680 to change her dress, she had to wear sunglasses, she 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.600 had to wear significant makeup. But prosecutors pointed out on 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.040 these pictures you could see bruises on her arms and 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.160 on her leg still fight all the efforts she took 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.200 to try and cover it up. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.280 And those pictures are out there for people to see, 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.280 and you study and you squint, and I'm sure the 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.080 defense will say, well, you can't really make out what 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.240 that is, but you do clearly see something on her 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.200 arm and on her leg. And they have, I mean, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.880 people have taken him and circled those particular spots in 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:22.040 those particular images. I cannot have met. She said that 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.560 was maybe the most important night of her life. It 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.200 was very important for her career. She was starring in 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.400 a movie. She was starring in a big Hollywood Perfect Matt, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.840 Perfect Match. She was the lead, she said that night, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.600 and I didn't give much clarity on the story, but 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.840 she said she snuck into a popcorn closet at the 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.440 movie theater that night because she needed to change into 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.760 a different dress that was going to help her cover 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.040 up something better for the after party. Cassie is in 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.079 a you know, popcorn closet in a movie theater, trying 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.920 to keep the secret that she was being beaten by 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.200 the man she is in a public relationship with. Is 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.200 what she claimed that is, like I said, bombshell after 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:07.520 bombshell after bombshell. One other assault in twenty thirteen, she 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.920 mentioned she actually attacked her while she was asleep. So 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.040 she's dead asleep and here comes somebody beating on her. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.200 Her friends. She had friends in the place at the time, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.520 jumped on him, she said, to intervene to try to 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.640 stop this, but she ended up with a gash in 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.480 her head, didn't go to the er. He sent her 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.920 to and paid for a plastic surgeon to fix her 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:33.440 up after that assault that night. So she again we 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.040 only describe it a few herobes, but she had incident 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.480 after incident after incident, and there are several people, her mom, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.440 her friends, some people witnessed it, some people took the 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.120 pictures for her of the bruises. She has a lot 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.560 of people to back up what she say. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.840 Yeah, as you pointed out, if this were a domestic 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.320 assault case, this would be a slam dunk case. There's 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.320 a lot to prove here from the prosecution side. But 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.320 my goodness, it's remarkable the evidence she has and her 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.840 ability to recount what happened. I mean, my heart is 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:09.440 racing when I hear what she went through. It's unthinkable. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.400 And you see the text there. This was shit, we say, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.400 is a part of all the evidence. But they shared 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.680 this text message between Cassie and Diddy that was after 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:23.480 one of these assaults, the text of which lets you 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.000 know where her head was. And this is as well, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.920 robes that could be used as evidence. You don't send 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.120 somebody this text unless something in particular is going on 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:33.880 in your relationship. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.559 Yeah, the text read you treat me like Ike Turner. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.560 And obviously most people are very familiar with the relationship 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.560 between Icontina Turner. It was violent, it was abusive, it 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.960 was physically abusive, and she still has that text and 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:49.559 she shared it. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.640 In court, also shared in Cordy yesterday, at least with 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.840 the jurors. Still images of those free calls not shown 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.680 to the whole court room. As we mentioned, they have 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.280 screens right in front of them. I think that was 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.240 actually a delay one point, because they were trying to 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:06.800 install those screens for the jurors. But she's almost walking 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.040 them through what they're seeing in some of these images, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.480 and she's identifying people. See that's so and so on, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.040 and that so and so and that so and so on. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.559 But as we said, the other day. These were male 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.560 escorts that were brought in a lot of times. Some 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.240 of them she got familiar with, but she didn't know 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.520 their real name. So to hear her in court saying, oh, yeah, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.040 that's that's Islander right there. They're Skyler over there. And 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.959 at one point she said to the jurors, yeah, that's me, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.600 as they were looking at these pictures. And look, we 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:35.440 aren't in there to see the jurors, so we have 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.120 to depend on the accounts from the reporters, and the 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.640 reporters are telling us that, yeah, those jurors appeared to 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:41.600 be a little shook about. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.800 Yeah, they were saying they got specific saying one female 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.559 durwer actually let out a deep breath and put her 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.960 hand on her chest as she looked at the image 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.280 on that monitor. And then a male durer apparently looked 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.200 at the screen and then his eyes quickly moved away. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.080 He couldn't look at the image. That's how difficult it was. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.160 They saw another duror writing on his notepad feverishly after 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.120 seeing what he saw. So at the very least those images, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.040 just those still images, had such an impression left such 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.640 an impression on Jurasia. They physically viscerally responded to what 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:16.360 they were seeing. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.840 She got into and I guess this makes sense. We 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.800 talked about it a little bit yesterday, I believe robes 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.560 about freey cough going for four days and sometimes thego 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.080 for a day, day and a half, two three, but 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.320 the longest she remembered was four And we were talking 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.160 about just how physically exhausting that had to be, because 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.360 she in fact said she was awake crawl of it 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.160 because she stayed doped up on drugs and that was 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:41.200 by design. But she went into yesterday's robot some details 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.680 of what happened to her as a result of all 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.679 of that physical exertion and activity and baby oil and 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.959 sexual activity fluids. Yeah, and this stuff. This is frankly, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.520 it's just it's awful. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.520 Later, look, I mean, I mean, I hadn't even thought 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.960 about this, but a lot of women know that uti 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.160 are a part of having too much sex sometimes, and 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.640 she said she had so many painful utiyes over this 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.400 period and they got so bad that cipro, the strongest 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:16.320 antibiotic you could possibly use, that that wouldn't even work. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.920 She said she had mouth sores. I mean, this is 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.160 just so hard to hear and to imagine just what 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:29.560 her body went through repeatedly going through NonStop sexual activities 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.200 with different men. I mean, it's obviously the emotional trauma 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.280 is there. She went to trauma therapy. She said she 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.520 had to do several stints in rehab. She talked about 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.760 the drugs that she was taking to stay up and 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.720 to perform the way did he wanted her through or 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.680 to disassociate herself. Yeah, Ketnemine was among them. She said 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.520 she was vomiting. Her stomach was just wrecked from all 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.360 of the drugs that she was taking. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.920 And didn't she say often that she's gotten sick before, 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.440 and she was encouraged to come back or to keep going. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.760 We would throw up because the drugs were so much, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.080 and then he'd just say get back in there. And 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.800 so it's not surprising that she then said she became suicidal. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.520 She said, I didn't want to be alive anymore. At 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.640 that point, I couldn't take the pain that I was 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.240 in anymore, and so I just tried to walk out 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.240 the front door into traffic, like she would rather be 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.480 hit by the proverbial bus than continue to live the 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:24.320 way she was living. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.800 I just everybody has an opinion, and we always it's 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.840 it's innocent until proven guilty. That's all legit. But at 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:45.360 the same time, it's impossible to listen to the accounts 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.000 of what this woman went through in her life, all allegedly, 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.840 but still there is a collection of you have to 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.480 take her at her word on some things, and some 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.800 of it we have actually seen on video. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.120 Yeah. I was like, we have video, we have photo, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:05.119 we have other people's accounts who can corroborate and validate 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:06.920 what her experience was. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.880 Aside from a legal process. As a human being, your 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:17.120 heartbreaks listening to Cassie as a human being. Forget music, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.480 legal guilty, not just as a human being. You cannot 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.560 listen to this woman and not have your heartbreak. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.880 It's so true. And I think if we think that 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:31.000 now hearing how she has testified under direct questioning, which 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.960 is the softer, gentler kinder. You've got the prosecutors leading 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.960 you and guiding you and supporting you as you tell 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.920 your story. She is now about to be faced with 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.760 the defense attorneys and cross examination, and what will probably 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.080 what most people believe will be a huge sticking point 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.720 is something she discussed at the end of her testimony yesterday, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.560 the settlement she received, we all thought she was getting 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.200 the figure out there was that she got thirty million 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.840 dollars from Diddy after she filed this lawsuit. She acknowledged 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.600 for the first time ever that she received twenty million dollars. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.640 And this is going to be something that Tenny Garrigos, 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.359 who even alluded to in her opening statements that instead 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.080 of Cassie going to the police, instead of Cassie seeking 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.840 remedy through any sort of criminal accusation, she went for 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.000 a money grab. She went for the money. She actually 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.520 wrote a book and sent the book through her lawyer 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.880 to Diddy and said, I should be compensated for this. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.840 Yeah, she wanted She essentially tried to sell him the 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.520 right to the book. It look, it was a negotiating ploy. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.760 It was a tactic to get this money out of 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.000 him and say, hey, if not, this is going to 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:37.840 go out. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.160 She also said she wanted him to read her pain 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.000 and understand what she actually went through because she didn't 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.240 think he really got it, and apparently. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.960 He didn't from all reports, he didn't take it seriously. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.439 He didn't take the threat if you will seriously. But 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.960 she filed a lawsuit. That thing was settled in twenty 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.400 four hours once she filed that lawsuit, and the wheels 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.879 absolutely came off. But again, like you said, the thirty 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.639 million did come from She said that she initially wanted 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.160 thirty million from him for the rights to the book. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.280 When they decided they were going to settle, she said 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:09.800 she came up with that number just out of there. 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.600 She didn't do any research or what she could get 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.439 or what it was worth. She just came up with 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:14.239 a number, and that's all. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.480 It was what she figured from her pain and suffering, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.480 that would thirty million a work, yes, that that would 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.080 ease the pain enough where that would be a remedy 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.480 where she could live with that and live with that 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.320 kind of a settlement. So it ended up being twenty 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.800 million dollars, And that was again the first time we 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.680 had heard that and. 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.320 Probably the first time she was legally allowed to speak 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.600 about it. These settlements and whatnot, they often come with 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.720 non disclosure agreements, with non disparagement agreements, and the only 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.800 exception when you can speak about that agreement is if 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.000 you were compelled to do so in a court of law, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.159 and that is what we have here. I don't know 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.280 if we ever would have heard about this, No, probably not, 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.919 never would have known this had she not been in 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.680 court and under oath and required to testify. But yeah, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.960 she got the twenty million, and I think that was 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.320 a surprise everybody to hear that number. But that's certainly 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.080 was settled on. She's back today the cross examination. I mean, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.920 hold your breath because defense attorneys do what they do, 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.520 and we have seen over the years it might be 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.560 the most sympathetic victim you've ever heard from in your life, 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.720 and then some defense attorney gets up there and rips 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.440 them apart. Now, don't know how they're going to handle her, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:21.800 but they're going to do what they have to do 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.240 to defend their guy. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.640 Yes, and it's you know, the lead attorney is a 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.600 very famous attorney's daughter, Tenny Geragos, the daughter of Mark Arraghos, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:34.359 who actually just was representing the Menendez brothers, who's represented 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.600 Scott Peterson of course, OJ Simpson, et cetera. But we've 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.120 got a Shapiro on that team as well. So they 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.560 are seasoned and very well experienced lawyers. And the two 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.080 lead ones are females, and that was by choice as well. 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.280 So yes, we will be holding our breath to see 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.159 what happens in that courtroom today. But there were some 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.440 quotes that we would like to end this podcast with 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.080 that we heard from Cassie yesterday really struck us, that 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:05.439 really spoke to her personal trauma and what she's been 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:05.920 living with. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.960 And the first one you're here put down because I 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.359 thought it was so telling, and also we give us 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.239 that word heartbreaking, but it was so telling. And then 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.399 the last one we have here, it's kind of one 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.680 of the closing statements she made that kind of brings 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.520 it all home as well. But the first she said 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.560 at one point it was terrifying. It's not normal constantly 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.800 being bruised up by the person you love who says 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.040 they love you. We have to remember there are certain times, 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.520 have been several times where you're reminded this was a 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.600 young woman who actually thought she was in love. She 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.680 was with somebody that she maybe she was in love, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.920