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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio, Man.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you,

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Speaker 2: Rich Martini, Back with Us. Author award winning filmmaker Rich

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Speaker 2: Martini has written or directed at least nine independent films.

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Speaker 2: A former freelance journalist for a Variety, Premier and other magazines.

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Speaker 2: A graduate of the Masters of Professional Writing Program at

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Speaker 2: USC Flipside a Tourist. Guide to the Afterlife is his

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Speaker 2: debute nonfiction book on a topic that's been haunting him

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Speaker 2: since the death of a soulmate. After a dream vision

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Speaker 2: of visiting his friend in the great Beyond, Martini went

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Speaker 2: on a quest to find out what the prevailing science

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Speaker 2: and philosophical opinions of the afterlife could be. He journeyed

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Speaker 2: into Tibetan philosophy, made documentaries in Tibetan, India. Eventually he

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Speaker 2: was introduced to the work of the Newton Institute, founded

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Speaker 2: by renowned author and hypnotherapist doctor Michael Newton. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Rich Martini, Rich and it was good seeing you at

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Speaker 2: Contact in the Desert.

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Speaker 1: George.

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Speaker 3: It was such a treat to see you, and it

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Speaker 3: always is, I must say you are. You are so

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Speaker 3: good at what you do. Watching you with a panel

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Speaker 3: of like ten different people from all walks of life,

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Speaker 3: You're just you always see you never see to make

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Speaker 3: the audience because you really know, or it seems to

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Speaker 3: appear that you know exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I hope I do. Did you like my jokes?

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Speaker 3: You know, we also have to consider that you're a

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Speaker 3: terrific actor. So but at the same time, it was

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Speaker 3: just really fun and I learned so much. It was

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Speaker 3: really a treat to be there.

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Speaker 4: It was good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Then I told you we'd get you back on I

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Speaker 2: didn't think we'd get this quickly, but here you are.

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Speaker 3: H that's really cool. Well listen, I just I'm still

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Speaker 3: working on this idea of talking to people on the

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Speaker 3: other side and it listen, I love Nick Pope and

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Speaker 3: I loved he hear what he said, but it brings

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Speaker 3: to mind this question, if they can visit us, how

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Speaker 3: do we visit them? And it sort of it dovetails

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Speaker 3: into this idea of talking to people on the flip side.

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Speaker 3: You know, your loved ones, people who passed away, If

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Speaker 3: they can visit us as ghosts or whatever, how do

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Speaker 3: we visit them. And that's what that's really what how

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Speaker 3: I got started in this research because my as you know,

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Speaker 3: you've mentioned my friend Lajana Andrews passed away back in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six, and then she started showing up in

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Speaker 3: dreams and then appearing to people that I knew, and

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Speaker 3: they'd say, well, you know, I saw Luana, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: wait a second, if she can come and visit me,

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Speaker 3: how do I go and visit her? And that's what

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Speaker 3: put me in this rabbit hole where I started filming

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Speaker 3: people under hypnosis, like Michael Newton, you know, in his

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Speaker 3: group and talking you know, it's seeing how they were

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Speaker 3: able to access the between lives realm, the idea that

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Speaker 3: we're all on stage while we'll hear during life, but

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Speaker 3: then we go off stage. But then I also discovered,

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Speaker 3: as you know, I've been working with a medium for Schaeffer,

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Speaker 3: and I found that different mediums like her, who work

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Speaker 3: with law enforcement, they're like having a cell phone to

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Speaker 3: the flip side, you can ask people who are no

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Speaker 3: longer on the planet, so what's it like over there?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing over there? So and it's a

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Speaker 3: way of us connecting with them once they're gone. But

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Speaker 3: most recently I've been doing it with just simple guided meditation.

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Speaker 3: I discovered that you don't need to do six hours

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Speaker 3: of hypnotherapy. It helps, but just sitting down with somebody

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Speaker 3: and asking them about some event that happened. It's like

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Speaker 3: a gateway. And so let's say someone had a vivid dream,

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Speaker 3: or let's say someone had an experience, could even be

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Speaker 3: UFO experience, whatever that experience is, if it's vivid enough,

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Speaker 3: memory of it. And of course sometimes when people will say,

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Speaker 3: And what I say is, well, let's freeze the frame

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Speaker 3: doctor Grayson's a friend and he wrote this book called After.

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Speaker 3: He's the doctor at University of Virginia, who studied near

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Speaker 3: death experiences for so long, and in his book he

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Speaker 3: can remember them, have something negative happen. So ninety seven

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Speaker 3: nine percent of the people who have a near death

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Speaker 3: event have positive things happen, you see. And so this

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Speaker 3: idea of using this subjective experience, whatever it is, as

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Speaker 3: what happened. And then what I do is I say,

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Speaker 3: same questions. And by doing that, I found I could

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Speaker 3: hone it down into a very simple meditation that anybody

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Speaker 3: can do. I call it my Beatles meditation. Picture yourself

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Speaker 3: on a boat in a boat on a river, you

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Speaker 3: know the song Lousy in the Sky.

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Speaker 4: With Diamonds, And I just have them do that.

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Speaker 3: And the people who do that, and I say, okay,

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Speaker 3: what's the boat look like? And then they picture whatever

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Speaker 3: And from there then I say, okay, can I invite

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Speaker 3: across from you in this boat? And by doing that

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Speaker 3: they're imagining, of course, they're pretending that they can see

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Speaker 3: their loved one. But I go from there and then

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Speaker 3: I ask the loved one the same questions. I ask,

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Speaker 3: are you familiar with me? And George. You be shocked

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Speaker 3: how many people say yes, even though the person I'm

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Speaker 3: talking to has never met me, has never read any

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Speaker 3: Divine Counsels, I had like fifty people do this on Zoom.

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Speaker 3: They've never met me, don't know me. And I just

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Speaker 3: say does your guide know me? And the guide will

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Speaker 3: say yes, we do know you. You're the troublemaker.

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Speaker 3: A lot of questions or or they'll say yes, and

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Speaker 3: I'll look to be honest. The most thing that I've

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Speaker 3: heard from guides is they say, this is really valuable

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Speaker 3: what you're doing. You're helping people on both sides. Of

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Speaker 3: terms of talking to other beings, whatever they are, whether

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Speaker 3: telepathic communication. So you're not asking them to talk with

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Speaker 3: And according to the science of the University of Virginia,

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Speaker 3: we all have filters on our brain to block our

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Speaker 3: those filters, either through your death experience, perhaps out of

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Speaker 3: hypnosis and meditation are a way to just sidestep the filters.

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Speaker 3: Some children don't have them until the age of eight.

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Speaker 3: As you know, they remember past lives, they see relatives

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Speaker 3: And also elderly apparently lose them just prior to passing.

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Speaker 3: And as doctor Grayson put it in his YouTube talk,

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Speaker 4: Were you always a believer on the other side?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny because I remember asking my father,

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Speaker 3: And this guy then looked at me and said because

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Speaker 3: But he lives somewhere else miles away. And I said, well,

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Speaker 3: But so so I realized this happened to me more

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Speaker 3: consciously dismiss my fear and say, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 3: Who are you? Am I invading your space? Let's say somebody,

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Speaker 3: Who's I mean? I was? I was teaching film up

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Speaker 3: I've understood that people, you know, who may had a

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Speaker 3: because we all choose the incarnate, but he's a tall

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry you interrupted the class. This is embarrassing

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