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Speaker 1: The history podcast That's not your history class with me,

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Speaker 1: you're partially horse host Katie Charlwood, History Harlotte and reader

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Speaker 1: of books. Well, we have returned, We have returned. I

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Speaker 1: I would cover this before, but pretial care in Tudor,

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Speaker 1: and so Mary, like quite a lot of princesses, She's

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Speaker 1: So the ruddy cheeks are definitely from Henry and he's ginger,

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Speaker 1: looks like them. So, because Henry the eight, you know,

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Speaker 1: this thing with Ane Berleyn. Henry the absolute golober Mount

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Speaker 1: because her dad was involved in the uprising, they were

424
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: like fuck, so Mary had to get rid of he,

425
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and so she got her head chopped off too. So

426
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to Mary and Philip kissed, the way

427
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: things were in England, any titles or money or land

428
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: or anything that a woman owned, they became her husband's

429
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: when they got married. So they were worried that you know,

430
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Spain would then own England effectively. So when they put

431
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: together Queen Mary's Marriage Act, Philip gets styled King of

432
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: England and all like official documents, gets both of their names.

433
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: The Parliament comes under joint authority, but only under Mary's lifetime,

434
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: like if she dies, he cast a buggerback off to Spain.

435
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: England didn't have to support you know, the King of

436
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Spain in any war, and Philip could not act without

437
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: his wife's consent. Unlike most royal marriages, this was not

438
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: a marriage for love. It was a political and Philip

439
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't really happy of the terms, but they were like, no,

440
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: it's okay. So Edward Charles the Fifth he has to

441
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: elevate Philip to bring him up in rank for Mary,

442
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: so he gives him the Crown of Naples and the

443
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: claim to the Kingdom of Jerusalem. So when they get married.

444
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Mary is not only Queen of England, how what was

445
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: it something of Ireland, something of Ireland, and Queen of

446
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Naples and Queen of Jerusalem. So they get married a

447
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Winchester Cathedral on the fifth of July fifteen fifty four,

448
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: two days after they first meet. Philip couldn't speak any English,

449
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: so they basically speak this weird mishmash of Latin, French

450
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: and Spanish. A couple months later, Mary stops menstruating, she

451
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: gains weight, and she has this effectively phantom pregnancy. Everyone

452
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: is convinced she's pregnant, and as we've said before, her

453
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: preenial care and things like that aren't exactly top of

454
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Speaker 1: the range. So just in case Mary died in childbirth,

455
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: they the Parliament passes an act making Philip regent, you know,

456
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: just in case. In April of the next year, Elizabeth

457
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: who was thunder house arrest because they thought she was

458
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: involved in the Wyatt affair, but she wasn't that we

459
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: know of, and she keeps released because she's called to

460
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: court to be a witness to the birth because they

461
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen soon, but nothing happens, and

462
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: then eventually her stomach proceeds again, and Mary is convinced

463
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: that this is her not being regnant is God's punishment

464
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: for her having tolerated heretics. So Philip leaves to command

465
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: armies and against France, and Mary is really upset he's gone,

466
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: like so over the course of her marriage, she's fallen

467
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: in love with him, and she's fucking heartbroken and depressed

468
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that he's Gonelabeth. She ends up staying at court with

469
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Mary until like October because she's back and she's back

470
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: in the fold, and Philip is really worried that the

471
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: next claimant of the English throne was the Queen of

472
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Scott who was engaged to the Delflan of France. So

473
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Philip's trying to convince Elizabeth to Mary's cousin, back to

474
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, ruling and shit. In the month following her

475
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: accession to the throne, maybe issues a proclamation that she's

476
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: not going to force any of her subjects to follow

477
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: any religion. She does, however, in prison a bunch of

478
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: leading Protestant churchmen. Also. In addition, furthermore, her first parliament

479
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: declares her parents' marriage valid. She abolishes Edward's like really

480
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: ridiculous religious laws, and you know, church's doctrine gets restored

481
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: back to how it was in fifteen thirty nine. Now,

482
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: so when Mary takes the throne, she tries to reconnect

483
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: with the role. So maybe it works. At this deal

484
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: with Rome, they reconnect. Parliament repeals Henry's religious laws, the

485
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: English Church returns to Roman jurisdiction. There's concessions on both sides,

486
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: like the confiscated monastery lands don't get returned to the Church.

487
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: They remain in the hands of like the new influential owners, Mary,

488
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: the Pope, everybody. They approve the deal, and the heresy

489
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Acts get revived when these come back. About eight hundred

490
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: rich Protestants get the fuck at a dodge, and those

491
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: who stayed and were you know, being very loud and

492
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: very public about their beliefs, they become targets of the

493
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: heresy lots. Long story short, she executes two hundred and

494
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: eighty three people, the majority of which we're burnt at

495
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: the stake. So the burning at the steak thing, it's

496
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: like really really unpopular at the time, and it kind

497
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: of sparks these anti Catholic and anti Spanish feelings because

498
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: they're blaming the foreign thing. But you know, after this

499
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: she doesn't really execute so much. Also, yes, Also in addition, furthermore,

500
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Mary wasn't just the Queen of England, Naples and Jerusalem.

501
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: She was also known as the Queen of Ireland because

502
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: of the whole Shitter conquest, which was super fun. We

503
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: love a good plantation, It's not terrible for anybody. So

504
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Mary wanted to continue her father's work in gaining control

505
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: of Ireland and so started the Leasian Awfully plantations. Effectively,

506
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: because Queen Mary, she wanted to extend English control beyond

507
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: the Pale. The Pale is like this area of Dublin,

508
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: which was basically under British Rome. Anyway, she decides to

509
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: confiscate land from the Irish and hand it over to

510
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: loyal English subjects. Now, not a great idea because the

511
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: first thing she does because she sends them to leash

512
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: and Awfully. I mean nobody wants to go to Awfully.

513
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: At the time, they were known as Queen's County in

514
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: King's County, and needless to say, this did not go

515
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: down well. First of all, the Queen's rule for the

516
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: colonizers was pretty much a disadvantage because they had to

517
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: arm themselves they weren't. They didn't have guards or and

518
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: they were not allowed to fraternize, employe or inter marry

519
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the Irish people with the Irish people. Not really a

520
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: good way to set yourself off. Also, in addition, furthermore,

521
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: they had to abide by English laws and English customs.

522
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: The second issue with this is she didn't send over

523
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: enough planters. There were not enough people to colonize the area.

524
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: So the Moors and the O'Connors, the clans who had

525
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: already been raiding the pail, attacked the British planters so

526
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: much that more money was actually spent by the Crown

527
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: protecting the colonizers then was actually raised by them. So

528
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: all in all, not a super great plan. So in

529
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: fifteen fifty six, the Emperor, Mary's father in law, he abdicates,

530
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: Philip is declared King of Spain. So Philip he's in

531
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: Brussels and he's declared the king of Spain. Mary's in England,

532
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: and Philip is negotiating this, I want to say, like

533
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: wobbly truce. So basically they're organizing this tentative truce with

534
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: the French. But the very next month the French ambassador

535
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: is like implicated in this plot against Mary because there's

536
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: some dudes that are trying to assemble an invasion force

537
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: in France, and Philip wants to go to war with France,

538
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: and Mary wants to go to war with France, but

539
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: all her advisors are like, let's not. We really do

540
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: want that trade though, because that's important we need the money,

541
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, fine, okay, whatever. But this all changes

542
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: when Thomas Stafford invades England and sees his Scarborough Castle

543
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: with French help. In this the fucking shitty attempt to

544
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: depose Mary, and this war starts. So this war is initiated,

545
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: and so you did this war with France. Basically the

546
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Pope isn't too happy with England. The relationship with the

547
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: papacy is really fucking strained. During this war, France takes Calli,

548
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: and Calli is like the last remaining sort of foothold

549
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: that England had in Europe, Mainland Europe, and it wasn't

550
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: really help in England match. They basically had it for prestige,

551
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: but when the French took it it was a real

552
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: real blow to England. And apparently Mary said that when

553
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: I am dead and opened, you shall find Cali and

554
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Philip lying in my heart, now, was that really said

555
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: him's to say? Philip visits Mary in fifteen fifty seven,

556
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: So after a visit from Philip, Mary has yet another pregnancy.

557
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, she writes her will. She states that Philip

558
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: will be the regent until you know, the kid comes

559
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: of age, and they're waiting and waiting for this baby.

560
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: But again no baby comes and Mary has to come

561
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: to terms with the fact that her half sister is

562
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: her next lawful successor, so Elizabeth. So from May fifteen

563
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight, Mary is really weak and ill, so ill

564
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: in fact that she's an excruciating pain now so they

565
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: think it was either uterine cancer or OVERI insists, but

566
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: there seems to be a few tuor women who have

567
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: this same sort of issue. It always seems to be

568
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: around that area, so will there's an influenza epidemic. The

569
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: queen is already on her deathbed by August. She has

570
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: this low fever and dropsy which everyone is worried about,

571
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: so they move her from Hampton Court to Saint James

572
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Pallace and in September Mary has high fevers, headaches, periods

573
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: of confusion, and she even has lost of vision. By October,

574
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: it's really really clear that this you know, she's on

575
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: her way out. So Philip receives news from England that

576
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: she is so incredibly ill, and as such he sends

577
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: his personal physician over. By November, she's got a wee

578
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: bit of relief, but it's still pretty bad. On the

579
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: eighth of November, she agrees to name Elizabeth her successor.

580
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: As she gets weaker and closer to the grave, nobles

581
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: and the gentry, they start filtering out of Saint James's

582
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: Palace and are trickling towards Hatfield, where Elizabeth is deying.

583
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: And on the seventeenth of November fifteen fifty eight, at

584
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: forty two years old, Queen Mary the First of England, Spain, Naples,

585
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: and Jerusalem dies from what we think we're either avariansysts

586
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: or uterine cancer, and so ends the story of Bloody Mary.

587
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: We learned today that Mary the First was a victim

588
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: of the fucking patriarchy. Why do you say that, Katie, Well,

589
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked, because I'm going to tell you.

590
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: So let's put this into perspective. Nearly the first she

591
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: is known as Bloody Mary. Her father Henry the eight

592
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: burned what eighty one people at this stake during his

593
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: what nearly forty year reign, but you know, granted, definitely

594
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: less than two hundred and eighty three. However, we don't

595
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: have an exact number. But this is very much an

596
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: estimate because we don't have exact numbers for massacres. Really,

597
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: so Henry ordered the deaths of somewhere between fifty seven

598
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: thousand and seventy two thousand of his own subjects, including

599
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: two of his wives. The very moment that crown touched

600
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: his head, he executed his father's advisors because he wanted

601
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: them out and his way, And yet he's still not

602
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: called Bloody Henry Edward the sixth, Mary's younger brother, he

603
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: burned two radical Protestant Anabaptists at the stake, and he

604
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: sanctioned the suppression of the Prayer Book rebellion, resulting in

605
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: the deaths of around five and a half thousand Catholics.

606
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: And this is during his six year reign. He reigned

607
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: for six years, Mary reigned for five, but yet still

608
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: not known as Bloody Edward. Then, of course we have

609
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: Elizabeth the First, who burned five Anabaptists at the stake,

610
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: executed around eight hundred Catholic rebels and had one hundred

611
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: and ninety three Catholics hanged, drawn and quartered. And during

612
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: the sixteenth century, executing people was very much part of

613
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: the norm. I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm

614
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: just saying it happened. Monarchs all over here would be

615
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing. So why she is known

616
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: as the bloody Tyrant when all all these other monarchs

617
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: are either just as bad or much worse. Why because

618
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: of misogynistic propaganda? Mary was England's first queen. And if

619
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: it weren't for some arsehold John Fox writing this inflammatory pamphlet,

620
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't know her as Bloody Mary, and the

621
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: burnings would probably just be a footnote in history, and

622
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: she would have instead been known as the first Queen

623
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Speaker 1: Regnant of England. What have we learned today? History is

624
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: often portrayed to us through a patriarchal lens that we

625
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: have to smash with a hammer in order to get

626
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: to the truth. That being said, recommendation time. So I

627
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: got a new book. I got a new book for

628
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: my birthday. It's called The Sexual History of London. You

629
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Speaker 1: should read it. It's fun for listening. I have been

630
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Speaker 1: listening to Tenfold More Wicked presents Wicked Words. So there's

631
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632
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633
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Speaker 1: far I've known. But they've got this new series out

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Speaker 1: called Wicked Words, and basically the host of tenfold More

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Speaker 1: Wicked Kate Winkler. It's always o Kate. She interviews journalists

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Speaker 1: and writers about their best true crime cases. It's really fun.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it and watching Hawkeye season one. So Hawkeye,

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Speaker 1: the Hawkeye TV Show is out and it's got a

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Speaker 1: canonically deaf Clint Barton, and I'm very happy about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely enjoying it. You should definitely check it out

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Speaker 1: if you like Marvel. It's a bit grittier, not too gritty.

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Speaker 1: It's still got that Marvel sheen on it, but it's

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Speaker 1: not quite the diehard of TV shows, but it's close.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget. If you want to talk to me, don't forget.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on all my socials links around

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Speaker 1: the description down below. Generally it's who did what now

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Speaker 1: poled apart from Twitter, which is who did want now PD,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, there wasn't enough characters and my voice is

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Speaker 1: starting to go again, so I'll chat to you next time.

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Speaker 1: Adios or Revoir of wi is em My friends, Bye bye,