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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Home studios. I am Chad Millman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. This is our

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night episode in which we review the faves five

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Speaker 1: picks that we put into the contest, dissect some of

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Speaker 1: the games we might have left out. We're going to

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week five.

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Speaker 1: My co host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF professional

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Speaker 2: Chad, how are you doing brother?

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Speaker 1: We haven't been this happy since before the season started,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get to why. But I do

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Speaker 1: like that right before we won on air, you said

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Speaker 1: to me, oh, man, there are some juicy lines next week.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to dig in on that because we

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Speaker 1: targeted a couple of lines that ended up in our

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Speaker 1: contest plays that we landed on perfectly. At last. Simon,

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Speaker 1: we finally had a week. We finally had a week

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Speaker 1: where I'm not walking up to the third floor to

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Speaker 1: my Tommy John Home studio and I'm thinking, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: the Chargers plus seven and a half. We'll get to it.

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Speaker 1: Started the day three and on the contest with the Bears, Colts, Bucks.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's not just teams that need the preseason Simon.

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Speaker 1: We need it a little bit of it. Two. That's

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Speaker 1: through the game, Simon. At one point today, two of

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Speaker 1: our teams, Indi and Tampa were up a combined thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to nothing in the second quarter. And yet, and

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Speaker 1: yet we still found ourselves sweating both of those games

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Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter, and the Colts made us

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Speaker 1: sweat until the final minute, So let's start there. Look,

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Speaker 1: it was a huge luck game, a game you like

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, a classic fade, Tomlin spot, a classic

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Speaker 1: cell high on the Steelers for a half Simon, we

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Speaker 1: were absolutely one hundred correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it all came true with the only

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Speaker 2: fear was their defense of the Colts, right. We talked

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Speaker 2: before the game all the injuries and that that was

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Speaker 2: I would say, if you're a Pittsburgh fan, even though

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Speaker 2: justin fields, right. He made a lot of plays that's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: justin fields of the Bears would have thrown a pick here,

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Speaker 2: he made a stupid fumble. He had a couple of

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Speaker 2: decreaseed chat when I look at my model when Joe

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. That was my first thought. And it's like

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Speaker 2: just played it simple and that's what they did, right,

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Speaker 1: So so Joe Flacco came in, Anthony Richardson goes out,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, which was so frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Well he did that, dumb fumbled didn't.

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Speaker 1: Well that was that's what I was gonna say, and

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Speaker 2: So that's why I wanted to give the little flowers

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Speaker 2: they hit a couple of big plays and they just

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Speaker 2: But again, never really in doubt. Right, that was the

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Speaker 2: nice thing about getting that number. It's like, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we got the extra field goal we needed

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Speaker 1: It does make me think about next week, and we're

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Speaker 1: I do wonder what the market will feel about Justin

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Speaker 1: Field's performance today. Okay, Philadelphia at Tampa Bay. The line

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Speaker 1: no credit for this. All flowers for Simon because it

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Speaker 1: went exactly the way you said it would. Eagles bat

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the fun ones when it's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: we talked last Sunday night and I basically told you

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I know this is painful to

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Speaker 2: and the Colts are just two matchups. You just I

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Speaker 2: this Tampa line went from two and a half down

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Speaker 2: you know that's that never really happened here in this

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Speaker 2: came out fire like that's those are the days when

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Speaker 2: you bet on Baker. He's got it today, like some

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Speaker 2: days he does not have it, like last week he

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Speaker 2: did not have it. This week, Baker was in his

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Speaker 2: bag the whole game. So that's that's a fun one

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Speaker 2: to bet because it was never really a worry and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was like a blocked

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Speaker 2: extra point, the Eagles only down two touchdowns. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is actually going to be a sweat, and of

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Speaker 2: course it was not. Tampa just absolutely rolled that one.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's to start with those two in the

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Speaker 2: one o'clock window. That's that's really nice to the boost

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Speaker 2: of the ego.

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Speaker 1: Baker was in the kitchen mixing up something sweet for desserts.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 2: There's so many ways you could have gone. That was

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Speaker 2: probably one of the lamest ways.

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Speaker 1: I think the bigger You're right about Baker. Look, he

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Speaker 2: I mean it was crazy some of his throats because

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Speaker 1: One point he was thirteen to fifteen for one two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: and then he had an RPO in which he kept

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, laid the shoulder down on the safety.

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Speaker 1: Like they won and we're going to get to how

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Speaker 2: No, I'm watching with a bunch of professional betters and

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Speaker 2: And I think the general view of Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's really a roller coaster. And I mean again,

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Speaker 2: which is the last place I wanted to be. But

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Speaker 2: They're just I like, they can pull teams down the

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Speaker 2: in different ways. And that's what's been you know, fun

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Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't got into it yet, but like

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Speaker 2: what most rookies should look like, which is the bullets

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Speaker 2: this game. It's it's Kayleb Williams. But yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: Well, look, we're gonna talk about this with Jaden Daniels too.

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Speaker 1: But what's interesting about Kayleb Williams that is infuriating is

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Speaker 2: It was bad football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But first to your point, I never felt like

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Speaker 1: no joke, every play of this team's season so far.

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Speaker 1: Their defense has playmakers, and their defense was terrible today,

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Speaker 1: They had a great twelve play drive for a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: Now, it was the opening drive that was scared. The

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Speaker 2: and again we might have a problem here. They really

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Speaker 1: It was really impressive. And then they gave up a

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Speaker 2: I said? You're right? Swift had a good game.

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Speaker 1: He finally ran forward instead of like dancing. I remember

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Speaker 1: had no time, terribly terrible field position. Matthew Stafford threw

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Speaker 2: And that's what I like. As much as I want

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Two too? And two?

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Speaker 2: So how are you going to complain? It's like not complaining,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's don't compare it. Yeah, people just give

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Speaker 2: time of football, you know, that's the hardest thing to do.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Bears fans, you should be feeling pretty good

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Speaker 1: I'll be completely honest. I never actually bet the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: he makes the right read to step up. It's it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: especially because you know I watched. I had a lot

432
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Speaker 2: of money on different bets in that game. I think

433
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Speaker 2: I lost every single one, and it was mainly because

434
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: I was just like, this kid can't do it again.

435
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: Like it's just that's that's historically a bad spot for

436
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: a rookie. You know, the team will get hits on,

437
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: it'll make them uncomfortable early in that game, and then

438
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: I thought it would just go south and went the

439
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: other way. Like they came out first drive touchdown, second

440
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: drive touchdown, Like you said, they just I don't think

441
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: they punted until the third quarter. Just yeah, just an

442
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: incredible game for Daniels. If you're a Washington fan, this

443
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: is literally the dream, Like your team had no expectations.

444
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: You got a trash defense, you got an offensive line

445
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: that's kind of thrown together, and you know, we love McLaurin,

446
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: we love Robinson, but it's like, Okay, there's some pretty

447
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: good weapons here, but you know, what's the best chances

448
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: They're gonna be maybe the third or second seed in

449
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: this division NFC East. I mean, it's not crazy to

450
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: think if this kid doesn't get hurt and they keep

451
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: on improving weekend and week out, they could easily be

452
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Speaker 2: fighting for this division at end of the year. Like

453
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: the Eagles Dallas, They're not bulletproof. These teams do have issues.

454
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, if I was a Washington fan, I

455
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: think them and the Vikings have to be the two

456
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: highest fan bases right now. Like this is I feel

457
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: so amazing for both these guys. So, yeah, the Daniels thing,

458
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: you nailed it. It's like, I'm gonna make adjustment to it.

459
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: I'm not going to overreact too much to it, but

460
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: it's definitely that he's in a spot now where it's like, Okay,

461
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: this This kid is for real, Like he's not just

462
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: gonna keep beating up on bad defense. He's literally taking

463
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Speaker 2: what the defenses are giving him. And he's being accurate.

464
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Speaker 2: And like that's the hardest thing as a rookie is

465
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Speaker 2: being consistently accurate, and that's what he's doing. So me

466
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: and you have the same view of it. That kid

467
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: is one dumb runaway from taking one bad hit and

468
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Speaker 2: it all being over. But through four weeks he's surviving

469
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Speaker 2: all these hits. So it's like, Okay, this kid in

470
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Speaker 2: his college career survives all these hits. He's doing it

471
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Speaker 2: again the pros. Maybe he's just built different. That's just

472
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Speaker 2: the way it is. So yeah, really exciting times right

473
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Speaker 2: now in DC.

474
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Speaker 1: It's a throwback. But I keep thinking about RG three

475
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Speaker 1: when I watch him. You know, very similar circumstances, right,

476
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck RG three, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels. RG three

477
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: was amazing his rookie year, gets that team to the playoffs,

478
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: injures his knee because he's so mobile and thinks he

479
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: can always get out of trouble. Injured his knee. I

480
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: think in a play in the pocket. That's what I

481
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Speaker 1: worry about with Jaden Daniels, like some fluky thing because

482
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Speaker 1: of his mobility and his belief in himself to get

483
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Speaker 1: himself out of trouble ends up playing him into trouble

484
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Speaker 1: because we've seen it. We saw with Andy Richardson, like

485
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks who are super mobile and can get themselves

486
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Speaker 1: out of trouble will sometimes run themselves into trouble. And

487
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Speaker 1: he's a hit pointer away, right, It's just that's what

488
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Speaker 1: you worry about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I was saying that they've been smart

490
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Speaker 2: with it, where the only time he's taking dumb hits

491
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Speaker 2: is when he does scramble plays right, when he just

492
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Speaker 2: tries to take guys on. When they've been designing a

493
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Speaker 2: lot of his runs, they designed it a lot where

494
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: he's either going outside or he's just falling forward. He's

495
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: never really taken these direct shots. He's I mean, they've

496
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: been telling him too, and he just talks about it

497
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: really every game. He's just like, I know I need

498
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: to get down. I take unnecessary hits, And this game

499
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: was a perfect example at two different times where he

500
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: could have taken a hit, and it's good to know

501
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Speaker 2: in his own mind, he was like, I'm up ten

502
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: points right now. I don't need to run through this guy. Yeah,

503
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: I can get it down on the next down. So yeah,

504
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: that it's like CJ from last year, Like these guys

505
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: came in and you just can see it right away

506
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, dude, dude's probably gonna have a

507
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Speaker 2: five to ten year NFL career just on base off.

508
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Speaker 2: We've seen through a couple of games here. I felt

509
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Speaker 2: the same way about CJ. So yeah, well can you say,

510
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Speaker 2: can't say anymore? That was a terrible read. Just I

511
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Speaker 2: can't believe this rookie just put up forty five on

512
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Speaker 2: the road. Just back to back weeks of just an

513
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Speaker 2: incredible offensive display by Washington.

514
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Speaker 1: P veteran, naturally calm and comfortable Matt Mitchell. I know

515
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Speaker 1: you're listening to the show right now as the producer

516
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: hate me, but we are headed for a conversation about

517
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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury as a head coaching candidate if this Washington

518
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: team wins the division and Jaden Daniels went to offensive

519
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: rookie of the years this good. You could hear like

520
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: the announcers start to talk about Clinton.

521
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: For Chicago, because right when you're saying this, it's popping

522
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Speaker 2: into my head. It's like, oh my god, him in Chicago.

523
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Speaker 1: Oh my It's like trade Rock right, Like they were

524
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Speaker 1: starting to talk about, here's what Cliff Kingsbury learned from

525
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Speaker 1: his time with the Cardinals, and this is what he

526
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Speaker 1: would do different if he was a head coach again.

527
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Speaker 1: And this is why he's running the offense this way

528
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: and using more run and playing using different blocking schemes

529
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Speaker 1: and not going for wide. And I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a head coach. Kansas City at

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, Simon. For the fourth week in a row,

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Speaker 1: we have won our Tommy John Big Ball Batter of

533
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Speaker 1: the week. Is it because Tommy John underwear makes us

534
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: so comfortable? Is it because Tommy John underwear keeps us

535
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Speaker 1: from sweating? Is it because every time we're wearing Tommy

536
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: John we are so confident we can make the most

537
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: outrageous bets we want to make and feel great that

538
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Speaker 1: we're going to win. It's entirely possible. Because the Los

539
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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers were seven and a half point underdogs, they

540
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Speaker 1: were our big Balls bet of the week. There was

541
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Speaker 1: never a moment in this game where I was sweating

542
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Speaker 1: and I remember you and I. We were discussing this

543
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: game on Thursday, and I really wanted to play this game,

544
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Speaker 1: and we were worried about all the injuries, and I

545
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: wanted this rant about John Harbaugh, like his gift is

546
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: telling his team they are going to be physical football

547
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: players and they are going to will themselves into being

548
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Speaker 1: competitive because he is speaking their most native language. He

549
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: is saying, we are football players. We are going to

550
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Speaker 1: beat up the people on the other side of the ball,

551
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Speaker 1: and that is how we are going to stay in

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Speaker 1: a game. And then on Thursday or Friday, I was

553
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Speaker 1: going to send this to our slack chain, our favorite

554
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: slack chain. There was a story in the Wall Street

555
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Journal about Jim Harbaugh throughout his career looking for fullbacks

556
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Speaker 1: from defensive linemen. And he did it at Stanford, he

557
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: did it at Michigan, he did it in San Francisco,

558
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Speaker 1: and he's done it now with a guy in the Chargers.

559
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Speaker 1: And that speaks to his mentality and why these games

560
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: are close. And it's why we didn't care no Rashaun Slater,

561
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Speaker 1: no Joe Alt no Bosa. We're playing. This game. Played

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Speaker 1: exactly the type.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also I think it played to the number

564
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Speaker 2: which is what you basically were, just like, we have

565
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Speaker 2: to take this because the number, I think we both

566
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Speaker 2: agreed where it's like, okay, if Herbert's playing, we might

567
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Speaker 2: get a free point here and this might drop to

568
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Speaker 2: six and a half, which he did before kickoff. The

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Speaker 2: number lands right on. Pretty tough beat if you have

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Speaker 2: the six and a half, where you know, like you

571
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Speaker 2: just said, it felt like the Chargers dominated that entire game.

572
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Speaker 2: A couple of weird plays not kicking field goals, had

573
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Speaker 2: to miss field goal. I can't believe you fee anyone

574
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Speaker 2: had the six and a half. You didn't cover just

575
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Speaker 2: a brutal note cover on that. But yeah, we loved

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Speaker 2: it at seven and a half. You could have got

577
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Speaker 2: it eight and a half at different points during the week.

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Speaker 2: I told you the drop off in my model from

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Speaker 2: going from Herbert the Heineke was staggery, and it was

580
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Speaker 2: like it had to be Herbert if it wasn't mean

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Speaker 2: you were gonna even though we had a good number

582
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Speaker 2: on Tampa, I was gonna make us throw it out

583
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Speaker 2: because it's I like Tampa anyway at plus one. But

584
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Speaker 2: it was like, I'm not I'm not taking Heinekee. I

585
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: just couldn't do it, and so I'm so glad we

586
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Speaker 2: got word earlier this morning. It was gonna be Herbert.

587
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Speaker 2: And you saw in that first half, right, he had

588
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Speaker 2: a couple of throws before you got a hit where

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Speaker 2: it's like, that's why I love this guy in this

590
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Speaker 2: hardball offense where he's not doing too much, he's taking

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Speaker 2: the simple read. Then we saw, you know Herbert, not

592
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Speaker 2: that it's old Herbert, but it's like, once you start

593
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: gett pressure on him, get him a little uncomfortable, and

594
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: he gets flustered. We've seen it time and time again.

595
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: Now he just the game doesn't really work out for him.

596
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: So if you're a Chargers fan, i'd be pretty pissed off,

597
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Like that was a game I feel like they should

598
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: have won. They played better than the Chiefs that whole game.

599
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Mahomes magic, I just I really thought

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Speaker 2: the same thing where I was like, damn, I fuck

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Speaker 2: an idiotelling Chad not to put this Chargers money line

602
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Speaker 2: around Robin. No, it's Mahomes. He was eventually gonna win

603
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: that game. It's just what he does. And that's why

604
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: I never take the money line of the Chargers against Mahomes.

605
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: He just historically always beats them. The Raiders is different.

606
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: We do bet their money line against Mahomes, but not

607
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: the Chargers. So yeah, great Reid took in the take

608
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: of that one and the Bears. Yeah. Great. Great week

609
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Speaker 2: for Chad.

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Speaker 1: Great week for Chad. Chad's feeling great about himself this week.

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Speaker 1: Lockedown Kansas City by the way from Evan Abrams. One

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00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: breaking news, Andy Reid saying that Rashid Rice has a

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Speaker 1: torn or not Andy Reid, Adam Schefter reporting that she

614
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: Rice has a It's feared he has a torn acl

615
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: He saw the play. It was devastating then if you

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00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: saw that poor kid being carted off and just how

617
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: devastating it was and how sad he looked. Mahomes is

618
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: now eighteen and one straight up in road neutral division games.

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Speaker 1: The only game he lost was to russ and Denver

620
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: last year. Kansas City is now what is that? Sixteen

621
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Speaker 1: and twelve straight up in games they trailed by ten

622
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Speaker 1: points at any point since twenty nineteen. The next highest

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Speaker 1: win percentage by any team in that window is the

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Speaker 1: Eagles at twenty eight percent. I mean, come on, that's

625
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Speaker 1: how good Patrick Mahomes is. It's ridiculous.

626
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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I don't know why I thought Mahomes lost

627
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: to the Raiders in Las Vegas on Christmas last year,

628
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: but that must have been in Kansas City, which is

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Speaker 2: even more insane.

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Speaker 1: He's insane. Yeah, but we did the right thing. I

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Speaker 1: feel terrible for Herbert, like he was a sitting duck

632
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: in that game. It was almost unconscionable that they had

633
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: him keep playing because he could not move, and if

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: he didn't get the.

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00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: First to read it, well for not being to move,

636
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: if it wasn't the first.

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00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: Read, he couldn't do anything right, and so that was

638
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: that was too bad. But look good week for us,

639
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: really excited creeping back into respectability in the contest. As

640
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: he told me this morning, it's a long season, so

641
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: we're just going to keep grinding time it is.

642
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: That's why I felt that, where like I get why

643
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: you stress and worry, not that you were Joe public,

644
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: but like me, I just it sucks. I want to

645
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: win here, but it's like, dude, it's such a long season,

646
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: like you really can't stress about wins and loss. Even

647
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: this week we just won. I feel the same as

648
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: I did last week, where it's like all right on

649
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: the next week, already look at the lines for next week.

650
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: It's I always want to win, but it's just we're

651
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: in grind mode here. So you know, we got to

652
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: get out of this pit we dug ourselves into. So

653
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: once we get out of this little hole, I'll be happy.

654
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's the goal right now, is to

655
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: get above five hundred.

656
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: I don't get down about one week. I get down

657
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: about multiple weeks. That's when I'm like, oh my god,

658
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe we got to do this again.

659
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to a week one tape. You know you

660
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: get down the week It's okay. I will hoard it

661
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: against you. I mean it's I get it. It's no

662
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: one wants to fucking lose me, and you are very competitive,

663
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: so I'm right there with you. It's just there's sometimes

664
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: you come on here, I'm just like, God damn it, Chad,

665
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: God damn it.

666
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it together today. I'm not going over the

667
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: top happy today. I'm acting like I've been here before. Okay,

668
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: you don't think so, you think I'm being too I

669
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: want you up.

670
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: You lit are your favorite team, just one your rookie

671
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: QB is healthy and you. You just said you're perfect

672
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: in the app right now. You didn't lose a bet today.

673
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: You should be fucking happy, my man.

674
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm so happy. I want to talk about

675
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: next week's lines.

676
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Let's go.

677
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: I identified five different games. I'm not gonna I just want

678
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: to see if you and I are aligned on far away.

679
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

680
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay plus two and a half. I want them

681
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: as a short division fave, a short division dog. We

682
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: have that stat about division favorites. Yeah, not doing well

683
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: forty five percent against the spread short home favorites since

684
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. You want to take Atlanta here?

685
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Of course I don't. But god, God damn it, Chad, Yeah,

686
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: I got no read on that one.

687
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: All right, Well we don't have to play it. Carolina

688
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: plus five against the Bears, gotta got it, gotta It's like,

689
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. Bet it right now. We have to.

690
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: I think anytime we're getting over three with a you know,

691
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: nothing against Keleb Williams, but just he has to earn

692
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: a higher number from me. So yeah, if you can

693
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: get a plus five right now on Caroline, I'd grab

694
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: it right now.

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: I got Indie plus three only because it's a short

696
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: home dog, I mean a short road dog in the

697
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: division against Jacksonville. I think Jacksonville, Like we both liked

698
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Jacksonville this week, we didn't put him in the contest.

699
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: But I do think this team is in trouble and

700
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: figuring out who they are and probably losing confidence because

701
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: they can't seem to win even when they have the

702
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: game at hand. What worries me is we don't know

703
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback for the Colts right now.

704
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: Even if it's Joe Flacco. I don't mind taking the

705
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: plus three, but it's like, yeah, this is probably really chalky,

706
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: and this might be a spot we buy out of

707
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: as the week goes along here, but yeah, I don't

708
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: mind taking.

709
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: It all right. Okay, green Bay was at three when

710
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: we started the show on the road at LA now

711
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: three and a half.

712
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, right away, I was like, you got to take

713
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: green Bay there. It sucks us up to three and

714
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: a half. I'd still take that.

715
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

716
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: The fear. The fear was Jordan Love wouldn't look right.

717
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: And I wish I'd listened to us on Thursday because

718
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: we kind of nailed it right. He just came out

719
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: and not looking right. He took him a while to

720
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: get comfortable, kind of get his legs underneath them, and.

721
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: Then he was amazing.

722
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is like the perfect matchup for

723
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: this team, you know, this Rams, this Rams team. I

724
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: don't know when they're going to trade Stafford, but that

725
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: has to be the move. It's just they don't have

726
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 2: any they don't have any pieces. It's just they're they're

727
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: so depending right now on Williams in that run game

728
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: because it's like Stafford's having to force the ball in

729
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: on first second year players who aren't that good. It's

730
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: just all bad for the Rams. So I'm with you

731
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: on that Green Bay. I grab him right now.

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Three three and a half h This one is a

733
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: little different. Dallas plus two at Pittsburgh.

734
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: I hate it. I know, I just think I just

735
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh When I get where you're going with this,

736
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: it's like this is usually where we fade the Steelers.

737
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: But defensively, this is a great matchup for them being

738
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: able to attack like they have two rookie tackles like this

739
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: is this is what you dream about when you're talking

740
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: about Pittsburgh and TJ. Watt and Cam Hayward and on

741
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: the flip side. Pittsburgh wants to run the read option

742
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: like you saw it today. They came back because they

743
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: wore out that Colt steam. Yeah, sam could be said

744
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: for this Dallas team. So I'll grab there's one and

745
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: a half sut there. I'll grab that on Pittsburgh. But

746
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from here with Dallas caause

747
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: it feels like a nice spot to buy a low

748
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: on them because you know they're gonna have extended rest

749
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 2: as well. I'm just I'm just trying to think matchup wise.

750
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna favorite this Pittsburgh team, but yeah,

751
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: this is this is a tough line.

752
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: What are I miss? What do you got?

753
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: So? Once that jumped right out to me right away,

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: you can get Vegas right now is a plus two

755
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: dog to Denver. I'm excited for bow Knicks back to

756
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: back road wins coming home now. I mean, come on,

757
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: don't don't we have to.

758
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: Take you have to take the road dog under a

759
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: field goal in the division.

760
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: And I agree, like especially in this number in this

761
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: spot where it's like that one jumped out to me.

762
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I talk all the time, how I

763
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: think two is such a key number. It could go

764
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: up to it go up to two and a half,

765
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: go up to three. Like, I don't know if the

766
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: pros will be on this one, but for me, right now,

767
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: that's a game I'm gonna grab right away. The fishiest

768
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: line I saw on the board, which again I thought

769
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: you were gonna bring this game up. Uh, you can

770
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: get the Bills right now minus two against Houston. Houston

771
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: just barely beat the Jaguars. I got to me, Houston

772
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: is not right. So that's a game. I'm gonna throw

773
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: a little on it, just in case the Bills just

774
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: absolutely roll the Ravens, even though we were both on

775
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens. This is just kind of a hedge bet.

776
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: And then the stinkiest line of the week Washington's minus

777
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 2: three and a half against Cleveland. So we have an

778
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: offense that can't punt. All they do is score, and

779
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: on the flip side, we have an offense that if

780
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: they don't have a ninety yard touchdown pass to Amari Cooper,

781
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: it's painful to watch Cleveland try to drive the field.

782
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: They're so bad, so inconsistent. I do not understand that

783
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: line on No, I haven't bet this Commander's line, but

784
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: like right when we were talking about the lines that

785
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: one jumped out in the last game, which I thought

786
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: you were gonna bring up. Bengals right now? Are plus

787
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: one at home against the Ravens.

788
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, two things the Washington game and we were

789
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: watching When we were watching the Washington game today, in

790
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: my head, I was thinking, are they are they peaking

791
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: even more? Is it going to be time to sell

792
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: them next week?

793
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be like six or seven.

794
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: It's it's three and a half.

795
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: It's three. But so something to me that feels fishy,

796
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: like what am I missing? The line is not bigger?

797
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Right? That makes me want to take the Browns.

798
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.

799
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: That's why that's what I'm saying, the same thing with

800
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: this Bengals here, it's like why would you why would

801
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: we not take the Ravens. The Bengals suck like their

802
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: defense is atrocious, and you know, there was a couple

803
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: of miracle plays today by Joe Burrow and Chase and

804
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: it's like, how consistent is this team gonna be? And

805
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 2: we all thought, you know, the Bengals wild eventually get

806
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: finally get their win where they're now one in three,

807
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was, I was gonna want to take

808
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: the Ravens in this spot. Now I'm just like, Okay,

809
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: apparently this is a good number to take the Bengals,

810
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: even in the action app I know this is obviously

811
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: insanely uri early, but it's like ninety percent of the

812
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: bets and all the money right now is on the Ravens.

813
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a good spot to take the Bengals.

814
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: It feels that way. So I see what happens tonight.

815
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to bet it yet because if the

816
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: Ravens they roll this Bills team, let us get a

817
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: plus three on the Bengals, then we're really cooking. So yeah,

818
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: those are just early lines that jumped out to me. Chad,

819
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: where you know, I mean, you were making like, got

820
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: to bet at right now? I thought you nailed it

821
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: right away with the Panthers bet. The other one for

822
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: me is just that Vegas bet. I really liked that number.

823
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 1: Panthers plus five, Vegas plus two. Those are the games

824
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: that we probably bet right away, a little taste on

825
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay minus three and a half. The rest we're

826
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna wait and see how things go. We are on

827
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens tonight minus two and a half. I also

828
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: liked Raybona convinced me today like Josh Allen over his

829
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: passing yardage total. It was at like two twenty eight

830
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: this morning, two thirty by the time we were on

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00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,800
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