1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: you as always and center. Every once in a while, 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: you and I get to do a show that I 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: say is one of those where I ask people to 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: share it and especially if you have girls, if you 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: have kids that are athletes, if you wanted to defend 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: women and women's rights in sports, this is one of 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: those episodes that will be around forever, and it's a 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: really important conversation. We've been planning on doing this for 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: a while and now we've actually gotten to have the 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: conversation that's so important, and that is with Riley Gaines, 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: someone that you've had testify, that you brought to Congress, 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: that had powerful testimony. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We have a special guest on 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: this podcast. It's Riley Gaines. Riley Gaines was an amazingly 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: talented athlete who found herself for senior year competing against 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: a biological male, Leah Thomas, and what happened to her. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't fair, it wasn't right. And then she's shown 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: just remarkable courage speaking out against it and shining a 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: light at what's happening. And she's she's paid a price 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: for that. You and I have both gotten to know 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Riley and her courage is a lot of people admire it, 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: and so on this podcast today, we're just going to 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 3: let Riley tell her story because I think her story 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: is going to inspire you. But it also speaks powerfully 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: for fairness and against the madness of the current ideological left. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. And she's also doing a 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: lot of college speaking. 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Slash Verdict joined me and switched 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: to America's only Christian conservative mobile provider, Patriot Mobile dot 68 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: com slash Verdict promo code vertict or nine seven to 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: two Patriot. 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: Now, I'm glad to welcome to the podcast someone who's 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: become a friend and someone who I really admire, Riley Gaines. 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Riley Gaines was an All American swimmer at the University 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: of Kentucky, and she competed in the twenty twenty two 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: NCAA Division One Women's Swimming and Dining Championships, where she 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: competed against University of Pennsylvania's Leah Thomas, a biological man 76 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: who much of the politically correct world refused to insist, 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: refused to admit that that that that that he was 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: physically male. And I'll tell you, Riley, I think has 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: shown incredible courage speaking up not just for herself, but 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 3: but I think for every young girl, every young woman, 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: everyone that wants to see women's sports and girls sports 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: continue and continue to be a fair and real competitive landscape. 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: And so so Riley, thank you for joining Verdict. We're 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: really glad to have you. 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, thank you both. It's a joy as 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: always to be on with you, to be chatting with you, 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: so I very much appreciate you. Guys. 88 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's uh, thank you for your courage. All right, 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Let's let's just start by telling 90 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: your story. Tell us, tell us where you grew up, 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: how you got into swimming, and how you know you 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: didn't seek this out, this this this kind of landed. 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: On top of you. 94 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: To put it lightly, Yeah, I grew up in Nashville, Tennessee. Uh, 95 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: many generations back we are. I'm a native, which is 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: as you guys know in Texas. There are very few 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: of us Nashvillians who are who are born and raised, 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: but I am one of them. Come from a family 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: of athletes. My dad is an SEC Hall of Famer. 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: He played football. My mom he played softball. My oldest 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: sister went to Ole Miss and she played softball. And 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 4: my brother who's in college, he played football. My youngest sister, 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: she is fifteen. She is an elite level gymnast and 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: never tell her this, but she's probably the best athlete 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: out of all of us. My dad went on to 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: play in the League for a while. All my uncles 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: won super Bowls all the things, so it's like family 108 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: of sports. I am. 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: By the way, can we just pause for that one moment? 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: I heard the old miss and I heard your legs 112 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: start start trippling with excitement? 113 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's just greatness here. 114 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: But ole miss, another Ole Miss and athletes it that 115 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm just going to bask in this moment of excitement 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: and I apologize, but that's a big moment here, So 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: keep going because hatty Toddy, and. 118 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: I got to say, by the way, Riley, so you 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: came from Tennessee but then went to University of Kentucky. 120 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: That's that's quite the movie. 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: I know. I know you know, Ben, I've got to 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: ask he are you familiar with the Chucky Mullens tory? 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, so Chucky Mullens, I mean, obviously 124 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: a legend. But I remember when he got hurt and 125 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: George Bush forty one actually visited him in the hospital 126 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: at the med in Memphis because when they when they 127 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: brought him to Memphis after he was the spinal cord injury, 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: and George Bush forty one came and visited him. 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: It was it was a story I'll never forget. 130 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: And and if you don't know football, for people that 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: are listening, there is still a bust of CHUCKI Mullens 132 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: and every player touches basically his head as they're running 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: the bus of him as they're running on the field 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: for every home game. 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: So my father was the player that Chucky tackled that 136 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: game for games. And so no run very very deep 137 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: with ole Miss and and all the things. So it's 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 4: always good to be talking with ole Miss fans. Even 139 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: after Hey, Kentucky, that win this past weekend. 140 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Come on, I was waiting for you to throw that 141 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: in there. I was. I was like, how long is. 142 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: It going to be until the decor of just disappears 143 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: from this disappearance you guys, you guys look good. I'm 144 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. You almost had Georgia, and I was worried. 145 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: And I actually got a text from a I will 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: say unnamed SEC football coach who I'm I'm good friends with, 147 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: and he was he said literally before the game in 148 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: a text, He's like, dude, I'm not joking. You guys 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: better watch out there better than everyone thinks this year, 150 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: And that proved to be true. 151 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: Well that's good to hear, but yeah, you know, I 152 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: do it was it was. I didn't know I was 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: going to go to Kentucky. I thought, truthfully, my entire life, 154 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: I thought I was going to be a Florida Gator. 155 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: Ever since middle school. That's what I thought was in 156 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: store for me. I remember taking my official visit there. 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: Truth be told, I could have gone anywhere in the 158 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: country that I wanted to go, and so, you know, 159 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: I'm weighing the pros and the cons. And I remember 160 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: being on my visit and one of the coaches, who was, 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: you know, walking us around all day and assisting the recruits. 162 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: I asked him, I said, how do you know if 163 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: you're at the right place? And he said, well, we're 164 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: gonna take you to a football game. You're gonna go 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: on the field. You're gonna hear the fight song, and 166 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: if you get the chills when the fight song plays, 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: you'll know you're at the right place. And so we're 168 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: on the field. You know, it's a big it's a 169 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: big stadium, and the fight song starts playing, and I 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: kid you not, I just remember thinking everyone starts doing 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: that weird chomp thing. I'm like, this is the weirdest 172 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: thing ever, and orange is objectively ugly. I don't want 173 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: to be wearing orange. No thanks, kept taking my trips, 174 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: went to Kentucky, and I just I fell in love 175 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: with the university. Had a pretty illustrious career there. Twelve 176 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: time All American, five time SEC champion, actually the SEC 177 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: record holder in the two hundred butterfly, making me one 178 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: of the fast Americans of all time, two time Olympic 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: Trial qualifier, SEC Scholar Athlete of the Year, SEC Community 180 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: Service Leader of the Year. But again, just really to reiterate, 181 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 4: it's a lifelong. 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Journey, all right, Rather go back because I was looking 183 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: at your bio and it actually said twelve x all American, 184 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: and I was like, twelve x, how can that be possible? 185 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: So I didn't mention the twelve x, like twelve times 186 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: that's pretty far out there. 187 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's I look back now, and it 188 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: is wild to think again, all that goes into it. 189 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 4: We train six hours every single day. You're swimming fifteen 190 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 4: thousand yards, which is about ten miles every single day. 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: Three of those hours are before eight am. It's brutal, 192 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: and so I look back and I'm really proud. I'm 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: proud of my all the things that I was able 194 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: to achieve, not just in the pool, but also academically 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: and within my service. And really, really it's wild to 196 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: look back on. But yeah, twelve twelve times. It was 197 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: definitely even dealing with COVID during all of this, we 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: were rap siven in a championships in that way. It's 199 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: crazy to look back on, that's for sure, all right, So. 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 3: Tell us how guys in women's sports intruded on your experience. 201 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: So my senior year, I was had a goal of 202 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: winning a national title, which would of course mean becoming 203 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: the fastest woman in the country. I'm right on pace 204 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: to achieve this until the instabl a allows a man, 205 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: a mediocre man at that. Actually that's probably generous, a 206 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: less than average man competing in his rightful category, the 207 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: men's category, where he swam for three years on University 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania's men's team, ranking you know, in the four 209 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: hundreds and five hundreds nationally, so then switching to the 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: women's team in his final year to where he would dominate. 211 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 4: He went on to win a national title in the 212 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: five hundred free style and the event that he and 213 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: I raced in the two hundred three we actually tied in, 214 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: which is is is really rare? Right, It's it's virtually 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: impossible when you're racing for a minute and forty ish 216 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: seconds to go the exact same time down to the 217 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: hundredth of a second. It's also mildly embarrassing for six 218 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: foot four man, he couldn't even beat me. 219 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: Yet? 220 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: How tall? 221 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: You're not that tall? 222 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 4: No, I'm like a whopping five five five six maybe. 223 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: So he's took a foot on you, that's right, that's right. 224 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: So that's a lot of arms with a lot of legs. 225 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: Oh, you're telling me his feet on the block. You know, 226 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: you're standing on the starting block and you look at 227 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: the visual of him next to seven women, and his 228 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: feet take up the whole entire block. Obviously, he's tall, 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: and his arms are lanky. He stills his Adam's apple. 230 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: Forget the bulge that that is very glaringly obvious in 231 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: his women's swimsuit, lady like it would is. It's not 232 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 4: the word I would use to describe mister Thomas. But 233 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: really what thrusted me over the edge into no longer 234 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: being willing to lie? I mean to wait for someone else. 235 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: That's what I was doing. I was waiting for someone 236 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: else to say something. Was After we tied, we go 237 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: behind the awards podium where the INSTABLA official looked at 238 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: both uh Thomas and myself and said, great job you two, 239 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: but you tied, and we only have one trophy, and 240 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: we're going to give that trophy to Leah because we've 241 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: been advised as an organization that when photos are being 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: taken it's crucial that the trophy is in Leah's hands. Wow, Ultimately, 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: to you, our entire life down to a photo op. 244 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: So was it even a conversation or was it more 245 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: like we're dictating to you because I've dealt with the 246 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: NCAA when when I was playing, and I've I've said 247 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: this about the NCAA for a long time. They treat 248 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: us as athletes like we are their slaves and we 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: have basically, once you're in their system, you have no rights. 250 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: They don't care about you. It's all about making money. 251 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: It's a mafia, is my opinion on the NCAA. I 252 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: think it's been a terrible organization for far too long 253 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: and taking advantage of far too many athletes. You're the 254 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: biggest example of that in my opinion. But like, was 255 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: there even a conversation like with your coach or your 256 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: AD or anyone that was representing you. 257 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: There was no conversation at any point the whole season. 258 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: Forget the trophy and said there was no Actually it 259 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: was the exact opposite of a conversation. We had to 260 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: do all of the training and learn how to be 261 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: kind and inclusive and about pronouns. As a twenty one 262 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: year old senior in college, they made me go to 263 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: sensitivity training and literally word for word, the verbiage that 264 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: they used was I had to keep going through this 265 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: training until they felt like I had been re educated enough. 266 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 4: I will say I had great support from my coaches. 267 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that. My coaches, I mean my 268 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: coach was my best friends for four years really, and 269 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: he was very supportive. My head coach, my athletic director, 270 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 4: Mitch Barnhardt at the University of Kentucky. He's been the 271 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: AD for twenty plus years. He is an incredible I 272 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: mean an incredible human. He's a wonderful Christian. He leads 273 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: by example. I had tremendous support from him as well. 274 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: I still I mean we talked today. I still stay 275 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: in touch with him. But the academic institutional side of things, 276 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 4: that's where a lot of this forceful I mean, the 277 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: trainings and all the stuff, it came from the academia 278 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: side of the university. 279 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: Man, And what are the record books show? Do they 280 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: list you as the national champion or what do they say? 281 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: They just show as Hi, That's what it shows. My 282 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: university went on to nominate me for NCAA Woman of 283 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: the Year, which is the most prestigious honor for collegiate 284 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: female athletes, to which I was super excited about this. 285 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: It's a very humbling award. The was in civil Women 286 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: of the Year was not exclusive to just women because 287 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: Thomas was also nominated. So blessed and bla yeah to 288 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: your point, Bend. They have remained and continue to remain 289 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: the weak, need spineless, morally bankrupt cowards. 290 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: That they are. 291 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: I want to take a moment real quick and just 292 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: pause and say thank you to all of you that 293 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: have been helping the people in Israel through the International 294 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And with the barbaric attack 295 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: now directly from Iran that was launched on Israel, they 296 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: are now needing more help than ever before. Iran's ballistic 297 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: missile attack against Israel that happened shows you what the 298 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: people of Israel are having to deal with every single day, 299 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: in fact, every moment of every day. 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This is an organization I 318 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: am proud to say, when you may give a donation, 319 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: you are having an instant direct impact on the needs 320 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: and in protecting the people in Israel. So if you 321 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: can give, please give now and as generously as you 322 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: can go to support IFCJ dot org. All one word, 323 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: support IFCJ dot org and help the people that are 324 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: under attack by Iran, this time in Israel right now. 325 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: There's two parts of this story, and I think part 326 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: of it is the NCAAA, but the other part of 327 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: it is the threat to female athletes. And your sport 328 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: is not one where there's like interaction directly with one person, 329 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: like there isn't posting up in basketball or football, or 330 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: or field hockey or volleyball for example. 331 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Yours is you know you're in your lane. 332 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 2: But there is still a very weal threat to women 333 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: you specifically when you have to share a locker room 334 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: with a grown man. And I'm assuming the NCAA did 335 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: not protect you from that scenario at all. 336 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: Again, they did the exact opposite of protect us. They 337 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: told us that we weren't even allowed to oppose this. Actually, 338 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: they we weren't even forewarned that we would be sharing 339 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: the locker room. But then, of course, once we understood 340 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 4: the reality of the situation, only after being exposed and exploited, 341 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: simultaneously exploited to a six foot four naked man inches 342 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 4: fully intact, by the way, and had no problem exposing 343 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: himself inches away from where we were simultaneously fully undressed 344 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 4: in approaching, you know, an official on the pull deck. 345 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: I will never forget I went up to him and 346 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: I said, hey, what in the world. I understand the 347 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: guidelines that allowed a man into the pool with us, Sure, 348 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: those guidelines are posted whatever, But in the what guidelines 349 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: allowed a man into our locker room? And so nonchalantly 350 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: this official responded back with, oh, well, we actually got 351 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: around this by making the locker rooms unisex, meaning first, 352 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: I remember, the first thought that came through my head 353 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: actually was okay, you realize by admitting you had to 354 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: change the rules, you're admitting that Thomas isn't a woman, right, 355 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: you realize that. But secondly, unisex, so any man, any coach, 356 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: any official, any parent, any pervert who wanted to, quite frankly, 357 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: could come down there and share this changing space with us, 358 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: with us in bare minimum. We weren't even forewarned about this. 359 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: Can any of the women get a choice, get an 360 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: option to opt out, to say, look, I really don't 361 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: want to undress with a naked man. 362 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: No, there was no place on the pool deck that 363 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: we could have gone that Thomas did not have access to. 364 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: And I really cannot put into words the feelings of 365 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: I mean, of course it's awkward, it's embarrassing, it's uncomfortable, 366 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: it's humiliating, but really it's feelings of utter violation and 367 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: feelings of betrayal. And I mean it's traumatizing, really, and 368 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: not even necessarily traumatizing because of what we were forced 369 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: to see or how we were forcibly and non consensually exploited, 370 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: which used to correctly be called sexual abuse or sexual harassment. 371 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: It was traumatizing for me again to know just how 372 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: easy it was for them to throw our rights to 373 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: privacy as women entirely out of the window. 374 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: I think people need to understand too, Riley. And if 375 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: you'll explain it, because I've seen the locker rooms the NCAA, 376 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: especially when you're at events, so if you're playing in 377 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: a championship for you know, your conference. 378 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: A lot of these venues. 379 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: The locker rooms, when we say there's zero privacy, there 380 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: is not a stall to go into to change. There 381 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: is not a set of lockers, even like you might 382 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: see at a country club, for example, or a sports 383 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: club that you can go in another aisle for some privacy. 384 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Many times of showers there are not even shower curtains. 385 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: It's communal showers. When I say there is no privacy 386 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: in locker rooms, there is not. I'm assuming that's the 387 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: scenario you guys are in. 388 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's important to set that scene. Especially a 389 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: swimming locker room not a place of modesty. These suits 390 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: that you're putting on, I mean you're raising suits, you know, 391 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: their papers in their skin tied. It takes about at 392 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 4: least really twenty minutes to poke and prod yourself into 393 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: these suits. And that's that's twenty minutes of which you're 394 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: fully exposed. And Yeah, the locker room, it's a it's 395 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: a giant square. Like there's no there's no rooms, there 396 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 4: were high there's no nothing. It's a giant square. It's 397 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: a very intimate space. And that's just growing up a swimmer. 398 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: Of course, locker rooms in general aren't comfortable, but growing 399 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: up a swimmer, you almost become comfortable being vulnerable in 400 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: that environment. But let me tell you that vulnerability was 401 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: stripped from us when I had my back turned and 402 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: I heard a man's voice in that changing space. 403 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Now, now let me ask you, what did the other 404 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: women think? Because you really, you've demonstrated a courage and 405 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: you've paid a price. People have demonized you. You've been 406 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: attacked and vilified. I'm willing to guess the other women 407 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: weren't thrilled about it either, but they just weren't weren't 408 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: able or willing to speak out the same way you have. 409 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: Let me tell you of my team at Kentucky, a 410 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: forty girls, thirty eight of us feel the exact same way. 411 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: That's not because there's thirty eight staunch conservatives swimming at 412 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: the University of Kentucky. It's because there were thirty eight 413 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: girls who understood we worked our entire lives to get there, 414 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: all to have the rug really ripped out from under us. 415 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: And that's the general consensus of how we all felt. 416 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: I won't claim to speak for every single person, though, 417 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: but I do claim to speak for the overwhelming majority 418 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: of us because Ted, look, I can attest to the tears. 419 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: I can attest to the tears not just from the 420 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 4: moms in the stands who were watching as their daughters 421 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: were being obliterated in the sports that they once loved, 422 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: but the tears from the girls who placed ninth or 423 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: seventeenth and missed out on being named in All American 424 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 4: by one place. And I can attest to the extreme 425 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: discomfort in the locker room. And I can attest to 426 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: the whispers because that's what they were. They were whispers 427 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: of anger and frustration, again from girls who, just like me, 428 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: worked from the age of four to be able to 429 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: compete on that athletic stage. So understand, people aren't staying 430 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: quiet because they agree with this. They're saying quiet because 431 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 4: they're terrified. 432 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 3: But what are the consequences to speaking out? 433 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 4: I can tell you what I faced. I was told 434 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: I would lose all my friends. I was told I 435 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: would never get a job. No employer would ever hire 436 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: me because they would look me up and they would 437 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: see that I'm a transphobe. My school told me, you know, Riley, 438 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: you want to go to dental school. No dental school 439 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: will ever accept you or even look at your application 440 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: if you speak up about this. They said, you know, 441 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: you signed a scholarship, and remember when you sign that scholarship, 442 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 4: you gave away your rights to speak in your own 443 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: personal capacity. Remember who you represent. Remember whose name is 444 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 4: across your chest and across your cap, because it's not yours, 445 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: it's ours. And Riley understand, we have already taken your 446 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: stance for you. My university went as far as to 447 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: tell us that if we did speak out in any 448 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: harm whatsoever, we're to go towards Thomas's way, whether it 449 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: was in the form of physical harm, emotional harm, self 450 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: inflicted for that matter. They said, then understand that could 451 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: result in a potential death, and that would make you 452 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: a murderer. And you don't want that, dude, You don't 453 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: want to be a murderer. No, So I suggest you'll 454 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: be kind, and I suggest you'd be inclusive, because otherwise 455 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: you'll have blood on your hands. But it's effective. I 456 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: mean that type of emotional blackmail that works when you're 457 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: talking to eighteen nineteen twenty year old girls telling them 458 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: they're going to be murderers. I don't blame others for 459 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: kind of just shutting up and putting up. 460 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: So let's talk talk fairness for a second. One of 461 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: the things you said at the outset, as you said 462 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: when Leah Thomas was competing as a man, that he 463 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 3: was a mediocre in fact, that he was in the 464 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: bottom half of men competing in college swimming. That he 465 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: was in I think you said the top four to 466 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: five hundred, So it wasn't close. It wasn't like he 467 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: was near the top of man and then just ended 468 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: up the same place in women. It was a pretty 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: massive differential, is that right. 470 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was not a lateral movement at all. He 471 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: never even got remotely close to qualifying for NCAA's in 472 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: the men's division, to again a measly twelve months later 473 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: winning a national championship. And I forgot to mention this 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: Will Thomas figure is actually from Texas. He grew up 475 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: in Westlake, Texas or and swam here, went to school 476 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: here before going on to UPenn, So there's a unique 477 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: connection of course to the state here as well. But yeah, no, 478 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 4: not a loteral movement at all, which is the case 479 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: we've seen across the board. The story is the same 480 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 4: every single time. A mediocre man turns into a record 481 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: smashing woman. 482 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: Of course in air quotes, so Riley help people who 483 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: are listening understand who haven't been competitive swimmers. So you know, 484 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: maybe you go swimming in your backyard, you play around 485 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: with other kids, but you haven't competed at the elite 486 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: level swimming. What are the advantages that the physical advantages 487 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: that a biological man has over a biological woman in 488 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: competitive swimming. 489 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: Well, of course, a whole list of them. Let's start 490 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: with with things that I guess testosterone would impact testosterone levels, 491 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 4: things like your of course, your your muscular structure, right, 492 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: but also things like your lung size, your heart size, 493 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: you're the size and lengths of your limbs. I mentioned 494 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: his foot size, all things that are paramount in the 495 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: sport of swimming, which, let me just ad, this is 496 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: a sport we are working again all year in hopes 497 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: to shave a few one hundreds of a second off 498 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 4: of your time. There's not a lot of margin of 499 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: error here, or you know, we're hoping to shave tenths 500 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: of a second. So to compete against someone who has 501 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: advantages that far outweigh anything you could ever do. There's 502 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: no amount of training there's no amount of sleep or 503 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: diet or anything that you could do. And let's say, 504 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: for example, one hundred yard freestyle to shave at that 505 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: level a full second or two seconds off your time, 506 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: you're fighting to shave hundreds of a second off your time. 507 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: We're spending a lot of time talking about obviously protecting 508 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: women and especially young girls going to school, and I 509 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: want you to know about BURNA because I have bought 510 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: this less lethal option that can help protect you. 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The 517 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: question is, look, sometimes you have to use deadly force. 518 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: I understand that I had to use my firearm to 519 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: save my life one night, but I also understand that 520 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: there are options and moments where less lethal can save 521 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: someone else's life and maybe even yours. Don't compromise on 522 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: your peace of mind, and that is where the burn 523 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: a less lethal pistol launcher comes in a burna can save, 524 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: like I said, two lives. 525 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: It is a great. 526 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: Compliment to owning a firearm. 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Riley, you mentioned All America 554 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: in a moment ago that you know that the girls 555 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: that were crying and the mothers and the dads were 556 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: crying because they were one shot out right, one spot 557 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: out of an incredible prestigious award. When you talk about 558 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: shaving time and then this advantage that he has over you, 559 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: what was the difference between first place in tenth place 560 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: when it talks about when you're talking about shaving seconds 561 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: or tens of second and it's off, Like, I don't 562 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: think people understand just how close it is at the 563 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: elite level. 564 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, tens of seconds, that's how much you're even 565 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: in the fifty freestyle for example, it's first place to 566 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: sixteenth place, which is what qualifies of being an All 567 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: American top sixteen in the country. It's tens of a second. 568 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: Now we're seeing this not just in swimming. We're seeing 569 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: this in sport after sport after sport. Right now, it's 570 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: become an issue with San Jose State Volleyball, where there's 571 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: a biological man who's playing on the women's volleyball team, 572 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: and there have now been multiple women's teams that have 573 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: refused to play. Give us your reaction to that, having 574 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: competed in a different sport but at the same elite level. 575 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: Well, first, this is the first time we have seen 576 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: something like this, a movement in motion where teams are 577 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: standing in unity together saying we won't allow this to happen. 578 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: Enough is enough. You're not going to continue to discriminate 579 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: against us on the basis of our sex, which is 580 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: of course everything that Title nine was passed originally to 581 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 4: prevent from happening. As you described San Jose State University, 582 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: they allowed a man onto their team to take a scholarship. 583 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: He's taken a roster spot. He has taken when they travel, 584 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: you know that travel spot that rightfully belongs to a girl, 585 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: to a woman. But in talking with and working with 586 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: these presidents of these other Mountain West Conference schools like, 587 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 4: for example, Southern Utah, Boise State, followed by University of 588 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: Wyoming and most recently just last night, Utah State, these 589 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: four schools have said, hey, we're not going to compete 590 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 4: against this team. The universities, of course haven't specifically cited 591 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 4: a reason, but I can tell you in talking to 592 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: these teams, these girls are fearful of their safety. They 593 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: understand and look, we know we're going to take a loss. 594 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: That's what it means when you forfeit a match, but 595 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: this is a worthy cause. We don't want to be 596 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: on the receiving end. I've seen this boy give career 597 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: ending concussions to girls, and so they cite safety concerns 598 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: these women for not feeling comfortable to play. And I'll 599 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 4: tell you there's more schools in the pipeline coming up 600 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: who will soon also cancel their games against San Jose 601 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: State University. 602 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, and the risks of physical safety, particularly in sports 603 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: that have more and more direct contact, whether you're dealing 604 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: with volleyball and someone spiking the ball into your face 605 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: or a sport like basketball, or we saw at the 606 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: Olympics so called women's boxing with biolet logical males competing. 607 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: Give us your thoughts on the risks of really serious 608 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: injury that can happen when you have biological males engaged 609 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: in direct physical violence in a sport against women. 610 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not even going to give you my thoughts. 611 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: I'll tell you exactly what is happening. I'm going to 612 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: give you factual information here. Let's look, for example at 613 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: Peyton McNabb, a high school senior she was at the 614 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 4: time in North Carolina, a similar situation. Actually, it's the 615 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: sport of ball, of volleyball. A man on the opposing team, 616 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: he jumps up, he spikes, the ball, hits her in 617 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: the face. She's knocked unconscious, where she lays for many 618 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: minutes before you know, finally coming back around. Still to 619 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: this day, that was two years ago. That was September 620 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty two, so over two years ago. Still 621 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: to this day, she's partially paralyzed on her right side. 622 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: Her vision is impaired, her memory is impaired. She has 623 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: to have special accommodations for testing at school because she 624 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: can't retain information like she once could. She was supposed 625 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: to play softball in college, but because of this brain injury, 626 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: she will not go on to do that. She just 627 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: had part of her pituitary gland removed out of her 628 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 4: brain because of how traumatic the head injury was. Let's 629 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: look for or look at for example, what we saw 630 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: at a high school in Massachusetts where a male was 631 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: allowed to play field hockey with the girls against the girls, 632 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 4: and this boy he slaps a shot at the women. 633 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: One of the women on the field. It hits her 634 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: in the face, in the mouth, and it knocks all 635 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: her teeth out. Even she had to undergo reconstruction, facial 636 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 4: reconstruction surgery to reconstruct her jaw. This male player, he's 637 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: given career and in concussions to girls. Like I said, 638 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 4: most recently, we saw him hit a woman in the 639 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: face from University of Delaware to where she doesn't even 640 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 4: have time to defend herself. Okay, like there was no 641 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 4: reaction time for her that would have been able to 642 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: prevent this hit from hitting her in the head. The 643 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 4: list goes on. We saw recently even what the Olympics 644 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: has done. The IOC allowed two men, two plural males, 645 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 4: to compete in women's boxing, which naturally these both of 646 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 4: these and went on to win gold medals in their 647 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 4: respective weight divisions. And one of the female boxers who 648 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: fought against this boxer, one of the male boxers, said 649 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: she had never been punched that forcefully, that hard in 650 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: her entire life. She said, this was nothing a punch 651 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: that a woman could throw. 652 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: How is this remotely fair? In what universe? Is this 653 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: even arguably fair? 654 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 4: Well, it's absolutely not. And I'll tell you the people 655 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: who are lobbying for this, who are voting in favor 656 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 4: of this, who are advocating for this, they don't even 657 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: believe it. Even recently, Senator Cruz, when I testified actually 658 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: before your committee, I had some of your colleagues from 659 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 4: across the aisle come up to me before the hearing 660 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: and say, hey, look, you know, I played football at Stanford. 661 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: I totally get where you're coming from. I totally agree. 662 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: And then gets on the other side of the table 663 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: and what. 664 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Does he do. 665 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 4: He starts grilling me and sympathizes with those on the 666 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: other side, not the women. So they don't believe this. 667 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 4: There are again just cowards, and they know that. That's 668 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 4: why one you have been incredible on many issues outside 669 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: of the gender ideology movement, but your opponent here in 670 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 4: your state. I was so enthused to see this ad 671 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 4: come out recently. It was so powerful, it was so effective. 672 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 4: If the people listening haven't seen it, go watch it. 673 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 4: I've reposted on my page. It's this perfect depiction and 674 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: that very even if you just watched the last ten seconds, 675 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: you see a man in a jersey with al right 676 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 4: on the back of it and he tramples a young girl. 677 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 4: And that is the message, perfectly depicted. That is the 678 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: message that we are receiving and that people are voting for. 679 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: That's what you're getting if you vote for someone who 680 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: advance is these progressive and harmful policies. 681 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: Let me ask you. You've gone to a number of 682 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: campuses and you've spoken out, and I admire your courage 683 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: because you've had some really unpleasant receptions and threats of 684 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 3: violence against you. Describe a little bit what you've experienced 685 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: as a consequence of speaking out against this. 686 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: Well, I was just actually explaining to Ben I'm actually 687 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: a University of Texas and Austin's campus today, and I'll 688 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 4: tell you there was some minor heckling, but for the 689 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 4: most part, was very well received because these students are 690 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: desperate to hear the truth, to be honest with you, 691 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 4: they've been denied it from their universities, from these you know, 692 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: institutional academic institutions. They've been denied the truth through censorship 693 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 4: and other things. And so I had a great reception tonight. 694 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: But you're right, I have been in scenarios where I 695 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: have not been over well received. One, for example, is 696 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 4: San Francisco State University where I mean I was accosted, 697 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 4: I was ambush, I was attacked by these these protesters, 698 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: hundreds of them. They rush into the room, they turn 699 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 4: off the lights. They I mean, I'm being punched in 700 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: the face by these men wearing dresses, which again they 701 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 4: ultimately held me for ransom for about five hours, demanding 702 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: that if I wanted to make it home to see 703 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 4: my family safely again, I had to pay them money. 704 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 4: All the while the police are being held for ransom 705 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: with me. Because remember this is San Francisco, and the 706 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 4: police don't know I shouldn't say they don't know how 707 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 4: to do their job. They just don't do their job, 708 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: and in this city, well. 709 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 3: Prevented from doing it by the political leadership who doesn't 710 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: let them protect protect the rights of innocence because ideology, 711 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: Trump's actually defending people's rights and people's safety. And we 712 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 3: see whether it's in San Francisco or Minneapolis, or New 713 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 3: York or or Los Angeles, we see that left wing 714 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 3: democrats prevent law enforcement from protecting innocence in many cases 715 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 3: from violence. That the ideology on the left is if 716 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: the violence is carried out by someone whose politics they 717 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: align with, then they're happy to look the other way 718 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: and to effectively handcuff police officers from protecting the innocent 719 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: from violence. 720 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what these officers said. You know, I 721 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 4: asked them, can't you do something, to which they said, no, 722 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 4: we can't. We're not allowed to do anything because we're 723 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: not allowed to be seen as anything other than an 724 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 4: ally to that community or else will lose their jobs. Again, 725 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 4: the same community who's on the other side of the 726 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 4: door where we were barricaded, who called these officers racist 727 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 4: pigs for protecting a white girl like me, That's who 728 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 4: they again were almost forcibly had to side with in 729 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: this scenario. 730 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: Well, Riley, thank you, thank you for speaking out. Thank 731 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: you for speaking out not just for yourself, but you're 732 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 3: speaking out for women, You're speaking out for young girls, 733 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: You're speaking out for the next generation of athletes. You know, 734 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: Title nine transformed athletics and created opportunity for millions of 735 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: schoolgirls to compete and develop discipline and teamwork and get 736 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 3: all of the benefits of athletic competition. And I got 737 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 3: to say, the current insanity of pretending there is no 738 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: such thing as girls and boys, there is no such 739 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: thing as women and men. It really threatens the ability 740 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: of both women and girls to compete in athletics. And 741 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: I think your courage there are a lot of people 742 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: who are grateful to you, even if they don't say so. 743 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you there are millions of Texans and millions 744 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: of people across across the country who are grateful to you. 745 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 4: Riley Well. I appreciate both you, Senator Cruz, and of 746 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 4: course been for everything that you guys have done. I mean, 747 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 4: I think Senator Cruz, in terms of the gender ideology movement, 748 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: there are really few who have done it as such 749 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 4: a great job as you as highlighting the insanity spreading awareness. 750 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: I think of the activist judge Sarah Netburn who I mean, 751 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 4: your line of questioning was just brilliant, It was perfect, 752 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 4: It was just enough. I believe the vote was twelve 753 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 4: to eleven. Yeah, but again that's largely a part of 754 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 4: of well because of everything that you and your colleagues 755 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 4: have done, and so just very very grateful for you 756 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 4: guys and doing the necessary work even when it's not 757 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 4: the popular thing. So thank you. 758 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, there's a power to common sense and and just 759 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: just speaking the truth at a time when when when 760 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 3: it seems so many others are terrified to do so 761 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 3: that that has an enormous power to enormous force. 762 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm waiting for 763 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 4: the day when Kentucky and Texas flag. 764 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: Well that will come soon enough, and I will be 765 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 3: happily rooting for Texas. But we'll see what happens. 766 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 2: Rilly, thanks again for coming on. People can follow you 767 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 2: on social media obviously and see where you're speaking around 768 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: the country. If you've never seen Riley speak, put it 769 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 2: on your list. Tell your kids, your grandkids at colleges 770 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 2: to make sure they see her if she is coming 771 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: to their campus. 772 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 773 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: We do the show Monday, Wednesday and Friday, So make 774 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: sure you get that subscriber auto download button and make 775 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: sure you grab my podcast as well, the Ben Ferguson podcasts. 776 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: For those in between days. 777 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: I will keep you updated on everything going on as 778 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: well in the latest breaking news and the Senator. I 779 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 2: will see you back here for the week in review 780 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: on Saturday morning.