1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman The Pot 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pop 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. Thank you for joining us and listening 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: to our podcasts all around the world during this lovely 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: holiday season. If you're listening to this live, and if 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: you're not listening to it live and you're going it's 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: not the holiday Ji Bozo, Well it is as we're 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: recording this, you guys, and uh, Joe Grande here at 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: the house Mark Washerman is at his house Mark. How 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: are you doing today, buddy, I'm doing fantastic. I'm I 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: am thrilled to be here and on the air with you. Well, 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, thank you for holding down the show the 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: last few podcasts because you are have been quite the lady. 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a lot of great personal things 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: that are going on in your life beside your std 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: is going away and everything being in remission. Oh wait, sorry, 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I watched the movie and that's just I don't know 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: why my head never had any actual well, I think 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: I had the crabs ones. But you know who hasn't 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Who hasn't You know, you're just a great square and 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: God bless you if you haven't had any. But if 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: you have, you know you're a bozo like us players. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: But uh, we've been having a great holiday season. Tis 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the season to be jolly. As we talked about cannabis 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and all this good stuff. Something I want to bring 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: up to you right now, Mark is, first off, your 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: brother's not here and Blue is not here right now. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: We love them very much, but they're they're with us 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: always in spirit, and I really wish Blue was able 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: to elaborate on this as versus. It's a big, big 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: thing in the hip hop world and our very own 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: too Short Knee forty from the Bay Area. We're on 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: this two shorts in there smoking his new cannabis brand 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: that he has, which is Dope. He launched that with us, 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't he launched that? Yeah? Yeah, So we we had 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: a big, big party for two short when that popped off. 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: And it's Too Short n forties square up in the 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: final verses of now versus is a thing that you 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: go on versus and watch these two rappers basically go 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: back and forth with their verses. And for those who 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: do not know the Bay Area hip hop game, like 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: cats like E forty and Too Short have been doing 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: it for years. Like Forty was, Too Short put out 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: his first album in the eighties. You know what I'm saying, 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: in the eighties, freaky. He's done the eighties, the nineties, 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: the two thousand's, the two thousand tens, and he's done 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty. And you know what's different, folks in 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty that he's done. He's launched his own 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: cannabis brand as well as still spitting wraps and still 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: calling chicks bitches and still just slapping me. It's just 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: the O g rapper that's just been crazy. Bitch bitch 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: And of course E forty was right behind him, both 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: these cats. Here's an interesting story for you, Mark You 57 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: ready for this. I literally bought a tape off Too 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: Short at the barriers of Flea Market early our late eighties. 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, um in the game when Too Short was 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: coming out. I grew up in the Bay Area San Jose. 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: He was selling tapes in the parking lot right before 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: you walk in and I heard that ship and I 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is slat, Like, oh, I gotta 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: get that. My dad let me buy it. I never 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: forgot it. It's just been one of those I've been 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: down since hip hop since. You know. It's funny because 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: E forty said when he fell in love with hip 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: hop was when he listened to the Sugar Hill Gang, 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and that's when he said he wanted to be a rapper, 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: and then he became we came out eleven. He want 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: to be a rapper, and I too. And here's the 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: crazy part about that story. As we've heard this a 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: long time ago. In my high five, I relate to 74 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: the first time smoking weed. I smoked a joint. I 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: was six years old and I was listening to the 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Double Dutch Bus, the same fucking song and the same 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: group that E forty is talking about in this versus. 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: And it goes back, like Simolax with hip hop and 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: smoking weed and growing up and all this stuff. And 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: it's just crazy to think that, you know, granted, these 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: are my ties to hip hop as Weather Bay Area, 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: but they're as well as everyone a lot of other 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: people in the country, let alone the world. You know, 84 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be from the Bay 85 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Area or just a hip hop junkie head to understand that. 86 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: You could have been like, oh my god, I remember 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: listening to the sugar Hill Gang, Yeah, Pop, hip Stop, 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the Rocket to the Bank, Bangking. Now what you hear 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: is not a test time or rapping to the beat anyhow, 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: all the good stuff and my friends are gonna try 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: to move your feet because I am the one to 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Mike and I okay, hello to the the Red and 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: the Brown, the Purple and Yellow. But first I got 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: a bang. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. It's funny. 95 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Like I said, I remember being young, smoking weed, getting high, 96 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: having a great time, Grand Master Flash, the Furious Five, 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: all these good old East Coast cats that they're there, 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: and when it came out and growing up and smoking. 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: It's just nice. So Mark and I know you haven't 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: had a chance to see it because I just sent 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: it to you earlier today and it just came out yesterday. 102 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: But it's the two shortened e forty score up in 103 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the final verses for those who are into the history 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: of hip hop, the ones who want to see a 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: good time and two rappers just sitting there having a blast. 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: It is dope. And the one of the other funny 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: things is ready for this one. The DJ for E 108 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: forty is a cat named big Von. Big Von used 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: to be our intern back in the day for the 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: Doghouse for Elvis and I have and he's just done 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: so well for himself. And he was always such a 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: big hip hop head from Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, California. Good old 113 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: and the dirty bird is what I like to call it. 114 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: And he's the DJ for forty, which is very cool. Yeah. 115 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: So it's good to see a guy that we know 116 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: up there who starts his cannabis brand and he's been 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: rapping for decades decades? Is it amazing to you? And 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: think about it, going, damn, how can cat pull that off? 119 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Not many candies well, I mean in the grand scheme, 120 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: and there's not many that have that longevity. You know, 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: somebody want to hit Wonders and you know, maybe they 122 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: were here for to three years, but to last through 123 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: the through the ages is pretty amazing, pretty amazing to 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: go your eighties, nineties, two thousand, you know what I'm saying, Like, 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone looks at pretty much like Snoop going, 126 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: oh my God, he's got to be one of the 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: oldest rappers. He's he came after the game, you know. 128 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just funny. And now speaking of rappers 129 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: that are doing things and this and that, as I 130 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: mentioned the whole two shorty forty battle, let's go to 131 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the dirty dirty and talk about a guy by the 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: name of DJ Kalin another one. First of all, DJ Khaled, 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: if you don't know who he is, he's a producer. 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: He's made many, many, many hits. He was a DJ 135 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: and another one is one of the hits that he makes. 136 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: But on top of that, heavier set dude based out 137 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: of Miami actually and a very cool guy. Nothing bad 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: to say about him. Everybody that has ever met him 139 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: and knows him has nothing bad to say about this cat. 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: He has such a good dude. He's been a good husband, 141 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: good father, he has his little son and uh, everything 142 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: about him is dope. But he's lost some weight and 143 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: got into working out. So what does that mean now, Well, 144 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: now he's entering in the CBD game because of his 145 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: lifestyle and wellness sector of life, which is great because 146 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, the mega producer and Grammy Award winning artist 147 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: DJ called announces his interest in his entrance excuse Me, 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: into the CBD industry, inspired by his personal wellness journey. Now, 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Kaled has partnered with Index Corporation, which is e d 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: x C if you're on the traders, a leader producer 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: and manufacturer of HIMP derived CBD wellness products, which will 152 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: introduce his new company and debut his first collection in 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it's just great because you get guys in 154 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: there and then get in the business we already had 155 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: jay Z. Jay Z is doing big things, teaming up 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: with huge companies, doing doing it real big and I 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: really believe that. You know, Kalid, his knowledge and passion, 158 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: as he says for CBD is bountiful, and we realize 159 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: we are aligned in our approach towards products, quality and 160 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: business document. We understand and share the values that a 161 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: brand goes beyond physical products, its needs to help people 162 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves and be part of a day 163 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: to day lifestyle. The reason why I'm so happy about 164 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: a cat like this mark is because call it is 165 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: like a real one, meaning he ain't gonna push some bullshit. 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: I feel he's gonna know what his product is. He's 167 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: gonna be all about it like his music. Like everything 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: he does, he's full hands on you know what I mean. 169 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: He's not put my name on something. Yeah, this is Goude. 170 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: I liked it and teach their own that Doe do that. 171 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking that. I'm saying I like a guy 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: who really and and once again, I don't know this 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: for sure, so I'm not validating this. I have a good, 174 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: strong gut feeling because of the work that he does 175 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: with his music, the way he is with his family, 176 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: and the way that he gets approached to slipt a 177 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: million different products. I mean, yeah, we see him on 178 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: a Hoizon or a T and T commercial, whatever it is. 179 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: You'll see him on this and that. Those are big, 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: big companies and pay with his things. But I just 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: don't see him quote unquote selling out just to put 182 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: his name on a CBD company plot. So that's why 183 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I want to go that as a good strong, go 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: glean seg it. It's Joe Grande, Mark Washerman Cannabis talk 185 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: one on one when we come back, Mark, I want 186 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: to hear all about your new clients and is it 187 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: a cannabis goes bad story? Again? It's it, most definitely is. 188 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: But there's also a mixture of some other things. It's 189 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. Will drive back after this 190 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. Blue, Joe Grande Market, Craig Washerman, 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: the Pop Brothers at law. Blue is a little busy 192 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: right now. Craig is probably napping, and Mark and I 193 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: we are in the late night out. I almost feel 194 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: like when you get some late night news as market, right, 195 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: have you break down the story of a new clients 196 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: what happened love songs on the coast and that man? 197 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, when cannabis goes bad, consultation calls. I uh, 198 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, we I work every day, you know, whether 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: it's doing this or talking to a client or doing 200 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: a new consultation. We gotta referral. And somebody had received 201 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: a d u I the night before, so Sunday, so 202 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: so Saturday night strictly for drinking. Well, so I was 203 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: told by the person who referred that a cannabis d 204 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: u I was coming my way, cannabis DUI. So you 205 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: were thinking strictly cannabis, yes, and how you get approached 206 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: that way? Will they distinguish this is a cannabis d 207 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: u I R and alcohol d u I. No, you 208 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: usually I have to ask um. But this person told 209 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: me they were told it was cannabis, so they told 210 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: me it was cannabis. So I get on the phone 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: with the Perspective client, because you know, when when we 212 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: get approached and somebody one us to represent them, just 213 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: because they have money doesn't mean we're necessarily going to 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: represent them. You know, I have to evaluate the case. 215 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I have to evaluate a lot of things, and so 216 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: were several times that you'll turn them down? Sure, sure, 217 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: can I get a situation before I actually I'm gonna 218 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to this. This one is one of them 219 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: because I had to say I may not represent you. You 220 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, I don't elaborate keep going, oh my god, 221 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: does it does in the past, has someone did it? Well? 222 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Fuck you, you fucking bastard. When I've said, when I've 223 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: alluded that I'm I don't care if about your money, 224 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I won't represent you because of this this and that 225 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I've had that and where you're a prick, you're an asshole. 226 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: Maybe once or twice that might have happened when I 227 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: turned a case away for or do they do the 228 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: I'll give you more, I've that's that's happened that you laugh, 229 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: But that's actually happened, and that you know when you know, 230 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: I was once offered two hundred thousand dollars to put 231 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars in my client trust account for 232 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: thirty three days. You were offered money to put money 233 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: in someone's account. I was offered. I have a client 234 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: attorney client trust account. An attorney client trust account is 235 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: typically where unearned retainer funds go. So, hey, yeah, you're 236 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: gonna retain me. You're gonna pay me five grand, and 237 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work at seven hundred bucks an hour, and 238 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: as I work fourteen you add it up. I start 239 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: taking it from the trust account, put it into my 240 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: general account, because now I've earned it, it's my money. 241 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Unearned money stays in the trust account belongs to a client, 242 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: maybe a client. Hey, we're doing a contractual, d I 243 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: I gotta give thirty thou dollars to another party, and 244 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: you know I don't want to put it in a 245 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: bank or escrow. I'm gonna put it in your trust 246 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: account for a minute, and then you cut the check 247 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: when the deal signed. That data da dada, or here's 248 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: fifty grand. Keep it in your trust account. If I 249 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: need to be bailed out. You cut the check to 250 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: the bail bondsman. You know, there's there's lots of legitimate, 251 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: of righteous reasons. There's a lot of reasons why you 252 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: get a lot of money like that, correct and put 253 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: it in the trust account. So I had once been 254 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: offered here's three thousand, I need you to keep it 255 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: in your trust account for thirty three days. When you 256 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: take it out, you just keep a hundred thousand and like, no, 257 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: it's like that was because that's like that. There's nothing 258 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: good is going to come out of that for me. 259 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: That is somebody, in my estimation, was trying to clean 260 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: out some money because it was cash. I didn't mention that, 261 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: did I it was And you put that much cast 262 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: in a lawyer's trust fund account and and they don't 263 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: question you. You know, whether or not you get questioned, 264 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: I guess somebody could. But you know if on my 265 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: bank and I put twelve ground cash and they're gonna 266 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: start questioning that. You know, Well they have to when 267 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: you put that much cat, when you put over ten 268 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: grand in the bank, you got to notify the I 269 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: R S. The bank has to notify the I R. 270 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: Do you have to notify the I r S. As 271 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a lawyer, when you do that for your trust the account, 272 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: when when you get cash that's earned income, you're supposed 273 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: to fill out a document with the I R S 274 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: that hey, I took in this much cash when it's 275 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: earned income. You know. So but but but the bottom 276 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: line is I knew that there was nothing legal about 277 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: what my client was trying to do and wanting to do. 278 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: And I wasn't going to be a part of it. 279 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna jeopardize my license or my career or 280 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: my life to be part of money laundering, you know. 281 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: So you know, there there's varieties is why attorneys can 282 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: turn will turn down cases. And so so getting back 283 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: to this consultation call, this guy starts telling me that 284 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: he has a cannabis d U I he got last night. 285 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: And I said, okay, let's start from the beginning. What 286 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: were you doing? Why did you get pulled over? Or 287 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: I didn't get pulled over. I didn't get pulled over. 288 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I drove through a checkpoint, drove through it, drove through it, 289 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: was a little confused and realize it and drove through it. 290 00:16:54,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: So then I said, did you have anything to drink? Also, well, yes, 291 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I had two drinks, and so the INFORMA. Remember I 292 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: told you the information that was given to me was 293 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: it was cannabis. So the person who told me was 294 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: told by the person who I was talking to, the 295 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: perspective client that it was cannabis, which immediately told me 296 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: that this person lied to the person they told who 297 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: told me. So, I said to my perspective client, before 298 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: we go any further, you just told me. First you 299 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: told me it was cannabis, and then you told me 300 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: you actually had two drinks. Okay. Now I'm an attorney. 301 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm also an alcoholic and I haven't had a drink 302 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: in two years, so I know you're fucking lying, right 303 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: whoever told me so quickly? Get you? Oh god, oh 304 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: my god? And I said, you know, I don't care 305 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: who you lied to in your life, none of my 306 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: business us. But if you're gonna hire me and you 307 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: want me to help you, I can't. In fact, I 308 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: won't take your money if you're gonna lie to me, 309 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna look like an idiot when I go 310 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: to court, because if I say things and rely on 311 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: things that you say and their lies, the d A 312 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: is gonna see right through me and know I'm a liar, 313 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and know my client's a liar, and we're not We're 314 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: not gonna get anywhere. So you gotta tell me the truth. 315 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: That's the only way I can best help you. So 316 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: I go through you know, it's basically a deposition when 317 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: we're interviewing a new client, how everything happened and all that, 318 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: and so to drink well for no drinks to two 319 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: drinks about eight or nine, you know. And then I 320 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: went into the day before to figure out how much 321 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: drinking was done the night before, you know. And so 322 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean because it all, it all adds up when 323 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: it comes to alcohol and the cannabis. This person did 324 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: not smoke that day. This person smokes maybe two three 325 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: times a week and hadn't smoked for a couple of days. 326 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: But we know the blood is gonna come back with 327 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: the cannabis. Now. This person also did the field sobriety tests, 328 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: and we say time and time again in California and 329 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: other states, you'll have to google yours that the field 330 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: sobriety tests are voluntary and here during the holidays. It's 331 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: it's just so important to know these rights surrounding when 332 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: you're driving around wherever you are. Know the laws. Some 333 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: states you have to do the field sobriety tests or 334 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: they take your license. Some states you don't, and in 335 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: states you don't where it's voluntary. Do not ever do it. 336 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: There's no reason to ever do it. You're never gonna 337 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: pass it. The cops are always gonna say you fail. 338 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: And this person did it twice. Did you just sit 339 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: there and go, oh my god, At what point did 340 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: you not follow the script? Do you not listen to 341 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: what we say? What is your problem? Well, unfortunately this 342 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: person did not learn about us until afterwards, until after 343 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: our conversation, you know, on the phone. When when this 344 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: person then what took my advice and went and watched 345 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: our page, you know, and then I get the message, 346 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wish I wish I saw this 347 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: before and and all that. But but beyond that, I said, 348 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you know you you said you were confused, you drove 349 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: through the checkpoint. And if this was if you told 350 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: me you didn't do the field sobriety tests, you didn't 351 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: say anything because what she said was have you been smoking? 352 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: Have you smoked any marijuana yesterday today? That's what the 353 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: cop asked. She said, no, a lie. Then the cops says, 354 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: did you have anything to drink? No? Another lie? Right, 355 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: So we always don't lie, don't lie, don't lie. I'm 356 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: not just discussing my day. Folks. There it is, that's it. 357 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: That's it. Why, Because here's what happens with that lie. 358 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: You did the blood test. The blood is gonna come out, 359 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: it's gonna show the nanograms, it's gonna show the alcohol, 360 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and the police report, which is an audio and video, 361 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: is gonna capture you saying no, no, and that's a lie. 362 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: And when we think about trying to posture and prepare 363 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: her to go to trial, which gives me an advantage 364 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: during the negotiating process. So I can said that you 365 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: don't want to give me my deal, I'm gonna go 366 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to trial because you know my client didn't say anything, 367 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: and I can spit out the reasons why I'm gonna 368 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: have a good case at trial. But guess what in 369 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: a situation like this, if I'm the prosecutor, Oh yeah, 370 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: your clients a liar, Your client uh told lied? Look, 371 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: did you have anything to drink? No? And look at 372 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: how much bloods in, looking at the alcohol in your blood, 373 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: have anything to smoke or what are these nanograms? Clients 374 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: a liar, So let's go to trial. I don't want 375 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, So that's why you can't lie. You just 376 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: don't talk you. I'm not discussing my day. We've gone 377 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: over it at nauseum. It's the best thing to do 378 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: to to to always make sure you are preserving your rights, 379 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: remedies and defenses so we can use them. So what 380 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: this becomes, Now, this is a person who's never been 381 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: rested before, and so her favorite, his favor, whoever, Well, 382 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: and this I said, you know, I'm an alcoholic. I've 383 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: I've I know, I've been through it, you know, and 384 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I haven't had that drinking so long. But you, i'm guessing, 385 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: have driven around drunk many times and you've been very lucky. 386 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: Are you talking about? I go, you just blew through 387 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: a checkpoint. What if a cop was walking across that 388 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: street that you blew through and you killed the cop? 389 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: And don't say blue do drove through? I mean blue 390 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: through makes like a breath of lizer. No, drove through, 391 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: drove through, drove through the thing, you idiot, drove through it. 392 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: What if the cop who and that's where they work, 393 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: if they sit there and have to really reord not 394 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: do you How hard is it? Do you refrain from 395 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: tongue from going you fucking idiots. You drove through a 396 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: fucking checkpoint, and now you're gonna help you. So instead 397 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: of saying that, I say, think about what if a 398 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: cop was walking right there and you killed them. That's 399 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: called in the state of California, man slaughter. When you're 400 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: drinking and driving and you kill someone, that's first degree murder, brother, 401 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: first degree murder, you're going to jail for the rest 402 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: of your life. This person started weeping and sudden, well 403 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: fucking perspective life. Look, you had a few drinks and 404 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately during this time, this is where you drank. This 405 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: is what you did, and this is what you could 406 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: have done, and this is the repercussions of how they're 407 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: gonna look at you. And I say all that to 408 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: kind of ease into what I say next, which is, 409 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: you know, this is damage control. I'm gonna try to 410 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: keep you out of jail. But I don't know, I 411 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, you might you know, because it 412 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: was a checkpoint. Is this isn't just like getting pulled over. 413 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: And because you didn't use your blinker where it's like, okay, 414 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: where's the impairment. Where's the impairment? Well here, oh, well 415 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you're talking, there's you know. And I can only imagine 416 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: what the video is going to you. And let's break 417 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: right there. Come back. I want you to tell me 418 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: what happens next. It's kind of a stock point I wanted, 419 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: so going back, I I can only imagine, and I 420 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: said this to the client, I can only imagine what 421 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the video is gonna look of you driving through a checkpoint, 422 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, So we're gonna have to wait and see 423 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: and and and and trying to articulate that this is 424 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: can have us control. Well, I don't know what the 425 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: defense is now. It's premature to really talk and analyze 426 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: because all I have. And I say this to all 427 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: clients who come in for criminal defense when they first 428 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: sit down, because they wanted what's gonna happen? What do 429 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: you think, how's it gonna go? And all that, And 430 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know because I only know one perspective, 431 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: and that's yours. And you were drunk, and it's very 432 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: stressful as it is to get pulled over and have 433 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: to do it. You probably you don't even you know 434 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: this is you know is what it is right now. 435 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to wait to get the police report 436 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: audio video to make final assessments. But based on what 437 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: you're telling me and what you remember, this is not 438 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: a good situation, and it's damage control, damage control, trying 439 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: to minimize the consequences. You are looking at for a 440 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: d u I in California, absent any extenuating circumstances. You know, 441 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: maximum exposure is up to a year in jail. And typically, 442 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: as I said to this person, if you hadn't drove 443 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: through a d I checkpoint, if you hadn't done all 444 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: the ship and lied, you know, maybe I consider and 445 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: tell you that if this goes bad as bad as 446 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be, it's gonna be like a three month 447 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: alcohol program and you might do some AA meetings and 448 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, you might have to pick up some trash 449 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: on the side sidewalk in the highways, but you're probably 450 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: not gonna go to jail. That's what I would say. 451 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: That's what I would say if the circumstances were different. 452 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Driving through a checkpoint with cops around, I don't know, 453 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. No, actually, Mark, you do know, well, 454 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: you're going to jail. I don't know. COVID a fucking 455 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: d y and a checkpoint. Dog, Come on, I don't know. 456 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe I could pull off house. Let's 457 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: let's let's let now, let's stretch that one. Okay, My 458 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: client is overweight, has diabetes, has fun and kidney problems 459 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: as well to diabetes on top of that, and is 460 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: already an asthma death sentence? Is it a death sentence 461 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: then to go and to take go to COVID to prison. 462 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: My point is you, I mean you're gonna reach that's 463 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: that's your reach, right, I mean, overweight, diabetic, has long 464 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: issues already, and um, I mean you can't go sympathy 465 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: with parents maybe died from you know, COVID without need 466 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: have to support that, I mean, have to support these 467 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: other ones too, But you can pretty much muster those up. 468 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: But my point is that's still not enough. Dog. You 469 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: ran a checkpoint. So my point to you is you 470 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: can tell your client the assholes and elbows knee deep 471 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: in jail. Well, it's gonna I've actually this is in 472 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: twenty four years of practice, this is the first I've 473 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: never represented anybody who drove through a checkpoint, And have 474 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: you presented somebody with a lot less that, no matter what, 475 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: went into jail for a d U. I like this, yes, exactly. 476 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: So you're reaching by saying I don't know, and you know, 477 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, keeping good times. You know, I said, first 478 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: time offense. You know that one's decent. But she better 479 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: have the fucking priest, the judge that she knew from 480 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: somewhere else, the choir practice that she was in. They 481 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: all better will write a letter for him, you know, 482 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: you know what. And it's funny because I get clients 483 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: all the time that should happened. I can get character, 484 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I can get letters of character and character letters references, 485 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: and I always say the same thing, that's great, get him, 486 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: bring them, give them to me. It cannot hurt. It 487 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: may not help one bit, but it certainly won't hurt. 488 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: And who knows, you know, you might you might get 489 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: you might garner garner some some sympathy there. But you know, 490 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: in cases like this, when I when I get a 491 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: hold of people like this, um, you know, I really 492 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: tried to take advantage of sharing what I know and 493 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: what I've seen and the damage that happens when somebody 494 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: drinks drives, drugged out, just impaired, impaired on whatever, driving 495 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: to the point where you shouldn't be fucking driving and 496 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna and people get killed. You know. I represented 497 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: a guy that it was so horrific, uh so lucky 498 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: that he didn't kill a little girl. And this was this, 499 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: this was this was a guy who was hated his marriage. 500 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: He was unhappy in that whole nine yards, and he 501 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: was an alcoholic and he like a couple of ambiens 502 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: and drank. And in the middle of some street in 503 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: downtown l a residential street, he was driving and there 504 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: were cars aren't parked on both sides of the road, 505 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: and he was literally hitting a car to the left, 506 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: careening off. It going to be like he bounced off 507 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: like in a pinball game, the bumpers thirteen cars and 508 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: finally he hit somebody had a big refrigerator in front 509 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: of their driveway that they were selling. He ended up 510 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: crashing into that refrigerator, which stopped his car. That refrigerator 511 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: flew into a seven year old girl, breaking room, breaking 512 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: her leg, luckily only breaking her leg. That client of mine, 513 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: I had just gotten him a sweet deal on his 514 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: second d U I two weeks before that. No way, 515 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: I was very affected. Let me ask you, as you 516 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: say it affects you, do you ever feel like you've 517 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: made the wrong move and something like that? Well no, 518 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean fighting for my client is as as best 519 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: I can getting the best deal and let a client out. 520 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: How about this? And I don't know if this has 521 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: ever happened, or even have ever talked to you or 522 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: prep to you on something like this, or if it's 523 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: totally wrong and inappropriate to even ask a lawyer. But 524 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna ask anyways, exactly I'm gonna ask all the time. Anyways, 525 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: my boy, do you ever represent somebody that's beat the 526 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: ship out of their woman and then they go back 527 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: and do it again? No, No, hard, No, I've been. 528 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: I've turned down those cases. And that's where I would 529 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: think you'd be hard as a lawyer, right, Like, can 530 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: take that case and you know the guy's a fucking idiot, 531 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I can't even represent I wouldn't 532 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: take it. I wouldn't take a where a guy beats 533 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: a kid or moless a kid. Now I have to 534 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: take those You won't even take those cases at all? No, 535 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: But I have represented people who I believed it wasn't true. 536 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: I believed like the mother or aunt or somebody was lying. 537 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I've taken cases like that where I 538 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: believe they were getting hosed and it wasn't true. But 539 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: cases that come to me where I think it's true, 540 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: I ain't taken it, especially somebody who fucking hits a 541 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: woman or a kid that that that's that's too much. 542 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, I ain't doing it, or I've thought about it, haven't, 543 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: haven't done it. I could take a case like that 544 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: to make sure the funk goes to jail. Hey, I'm 545 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: getting you a great deal, just don't where you're going 546 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: ten instead of twenty years. Have I seen that in 547 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: a movie where I feel like I've seen that scenario. 548 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's it's it's been talked about because it's 549 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: thought about. If it's thought about, So what ends up happening? 550 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: How does this person leave your office? No, No, this 551 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: was a phone call today. How did the phone call 552 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: end up? How's the how the phone hall ended with 553 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: the person going to be coming to the office tomorrow 554 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: to uh retain the pop brothers at law? Oh, so 555 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna actually retain them and see what you can do. Yeah, 556 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: and then we'll follow it. We'll see, well, we'll remember 557 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: this as the drive through the checkpoint case. Can we 558 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: go mail? Do we? Did you say male or female? 559 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: I thought I heard you say both. I think I 560 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: used he and she a couple of times. He did 561 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: you confuse me? That's why I like that. You did 562 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: that for the protection of the client, which is because 563 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: I have lots of clients, and you know, while attorneys 564 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: cannot say anything specific about specific clients, we can tell 565 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: our war stories and you know vaguely, uh as as 566 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: it relates to the client as the client. Just talk 567 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: about the case itself and the facts. Well, let's keep 568 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: each other posted on this. I can't wait to Uh. 569 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: This is definitely when cannabis and alcohol goes bad because 570 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: maybe her eyes were his eyes were watered and they 571 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: couldn't see it because they just took a hit. No 572 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: doubt it. It. It's usually the alcohol. You know, I'll 573 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: get to the truth. It's normally the alcohol that does that, though, Mark, 574 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: if you think it is, it is. And the alcohol 575 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: expands your tongue. That's why you fill your loods because 576 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: your tongue gets bigger, you know, that, and that's when 577 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: you do the stupid things when you're high. You see 578 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: the cop, Oh I better stop? Oh ship the cops 579 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: right there? Who does pull over? Full? You know what 580 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean? You're drunk, let's go. And you know what, 581 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: drunk people try to drive so sober that they get caught. 582 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Did you try to be so much more careful when 583 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: you're drunk and cops can see that? Aren't you glad 584 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: you're not getting drinks right now? Somewhere I'm so happy. 585 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: I haven't had a drink in almost two years, and 586 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: just it's it's good. I feel good, feel great. You know. 587 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: I was talking to my best friend who who uh 588 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: we had this thing, you know, we we we got 589 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: drunk together for moons and ages and and we'd always 590 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: uh quote a movie. Do you ever see Tombstone? Of course? Alright? 591 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: Then Arizona's Finest? Alright? Then we there there's there's a 592 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: a Bill Paxton as as as uh Morgen r. And 593 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: they're playing pool, good old witer playing billiards and he says, 594 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm suffering from a hangover. But he was all happy 595 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: about it. He was like his you know, things couldn't 596 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: be better. I'll suffering from a hangover, and so that's 597 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: we would go. We would get wasted, wake up in 598 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: the morning and'll be like, I'm suffering. Man, It was 599 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: worth it, right, them boys were crazy back into that 600 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: that that you know, those are good, uh good documentary 601 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: style stuff to learn. If you if you ain't hip 602 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: on that, go go to yourself a history lesson and 603 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: learn a little bit about tombstoning on Wide Earth and 604 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: there you've been to Tombstone. I've never been to Tombstone. 605 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: See me and my buddy I'm talking about. We went, 606 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: We went, We went cloud Man, probably like six years ago. 607 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: We're still gonna go. I don't know if you know. 608 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: A guy by the name of Joe McDonald did the 609 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 1: Big Nasty He did RAI ESPN radio for years out 610 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: here as to wait, not too long ago, but me 611 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: and him did a show together for a while. Meet 612 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: him and his cat, Tim Kates, and we went out 613 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: to Arizona for spring training. He was huge into the 614 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: whole Wide Earth thing and this and that, and he 615 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: was actually gonna take us and we never went. And 616 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: that's why it makes you speak of it when you 617 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: say that let's go, we'll go show. We gotta go. 618 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: We'll go. We definitely gotta go. And you know what 619 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: we gotta go to. So it's this carphono one. If 620 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: no one else loves you, we do. Thank you for 621 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I 622 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.