WEBVTT - The Melrose Minute 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.720 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith and. 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:16.520 Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey everyone, welcome to the 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.520 Melrose Minute, a new weekly audio snack for listeners of 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.320 the Still the Place podcast. We recapped an episode of 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:29.200 Melrose Place, the Christmas episode, and a bunch of different 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.120 storylines happened there. One of them was Joe and Jake 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.879 were heating up and picking out the Christmas tree and 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.120 they were getting closer and hotter. And then we also 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:45.199 had Billy gives a twenty four carrot necklace to Allison. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.360 We'll share our thoughts on that, So. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.920 Let's jump into Billy gives Alison the twenty four carrot 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.120 necklace for Christmas and Joe thinks that's a little much. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.800 What do you guys think, what does our audience think? 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.440 And what do you guys think? Their roommates, But he's 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.880 obviously starting to feel something for Alison. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.960 This whole setup is that they've lived. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.080 Together, their roommates, they've been just friends, but things are 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.080 starting to happen. You know, he's taken care of her 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.160 through the breakup of William Moses and then taken care 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.640 of her. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.839 At the hospital and her uterus situation. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.240 But you said it, we didn't. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.240 You guys loved it on the recap that boy, we're 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.400 just trying to bug you deaf. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.680 Yeah, so we're just talking about like that point where 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.080 you're starting to feel more. I mean, if it's clearly 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.639 just friends, it's a bit much in my opinion. Twenty 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.679 four carrot a beautiful piece of jewelry. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.880 Like that a necklace for a roommate. But if you're 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.960 in his position and you're feeling more and they're getting 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.800 a little more into I think it's clear. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.200 It's definitely like a gift for somebody special. It's not 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.320 just a friend gift or a roommate gift. And I 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.760 think we've all you know, gift giving is, like you 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.200 do you have to really think. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.560 Well, wait a minute, what does this gift say? Like 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.640 this the right tone? Is this the right thing? 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.000 Does this just like hit the right mark? And I 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.120 think definitely a twenty four carrot necklace for a roommate 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.640 is a gift that says, oh, I think you're special, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:12.840 and I. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.600 Really this is me saying I love you, you know, 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.160 Like I definitely think it speaks volumes. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:23.560 Georgie is very intimate right, Yeah, very very romantic, very intimate. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.959 Twenty four carrots, which I've never owned anything, twenty four carts, fourteen, 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.200 I have ten carrot things fourteen pretty fancy, twenty four carrots, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.120 pretty intense. Billy drives a cab and he doesn't have 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.200 money where you get it, Yeah, I mean in this 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.239 day and age, gold is so expensive. Now can you 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.359 imagine that I'm not going to do my little magic 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.160 math where I figured it out. Let's just say it 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.200 would cost a lot of money. And I don't think that. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:53.239 Allison in the show sort of registers this is sorry. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.880 She goes, thanks great and puts it on a Carrot's 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.640 on with their day, right. It deserved a conversation that 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:00.360 they did have. 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.520 It was a big deal, and like Joe's you know, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:08.000 Joe's take on it was not crazy, Like she's like, uh, yeah, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.520 this says something more like you got to figure your 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.520 stuff out, you know, either I mean it's to what 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.639 you're feeling. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.079 Or yeah, I feel like because Joe has come from 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.160 you know, he's a little further down the lawn, she's 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.880 a little further down the line and like a serious relationship. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.440 Maybe she's gotten jewelry and there's sort of like there's 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.760 politics and negotiations in this kind of thing in her 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.799 world that she came from, and so for him. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.320 It's so naive. It's like the first time, you know, 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:33.680 this was nice. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.000 It's a very sort of innocent, naive place to give 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.280 it a jewelry from where she I'm sure with the 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.440 world that she was in, it means very specific things 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.640 and expectations are probably go along with it. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.600 That's just my view on her kind. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.680 Of Yeah, And I also think that Joe is seeing 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.080 something that Alison and Billy aren't quite seeing yet, like it. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.080 So this is where the audience is like, can't start 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.560 for you know, everyone else can see it. I think 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.760 he's really not aware because there's a line which I 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.400 loved when he said it's a token of friendship, and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.640 then Joe says, and that's exactly what you'll get. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.880 Yeah, you can see it, like, don't you know. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.320 But it's one of those situations where everybody can see 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.000 it except for Billy and Allison at this point. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:14.720 But Court that's kind of stumped me. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.480 This was it she was saying like twenty four carrot, 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.560 because she says, is it eighteen or twenty four? Right, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.960 And so he says, twenty four, that's the most expensive version. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:23.720 Of a necklace you can get. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.279 So then why does she say, you gave her the 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.200 twenty four carrot necklace, that's exactly what you'll get just friendship. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:31.000 I didn't get that. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.880 He says it's a token of friendship, and you say, 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:34.960 and that's what you'll get. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.480 And I think she was also trying to point out 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.320 that if you give this necklace, it indicates something greater 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.279 than just friendship. But if I if you say to me, oh, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.240 it's just friendship, then then that's I'm going to hold 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.080 you to that, Like you don't get to not tell 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.800 the truth about what it is you want out of 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.800 this relationship. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.600 And like it was, I mean that's sort of how 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:56.920 I see. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.880 It's like because the gift, she was sort of calling 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.719 it out, like this gift said a lot more than friendship. Yeah, 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.600 so when he says, hey, it's a token of friendship, 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.320 She's like, all right, well then that's you know what 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:05.640 I mean. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.599 Like she was almost like she was just calling his 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:08.640 bluff on it, like. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.560 Yeah, that it's not about the necklace, it's about his 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.040 behavior and how he's gonna. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.839 You need to say what you're actually feeling, because this 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.320 necklace says a lot more than what you say you're feeling. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.920 Yeah, I mean, I mean, but it's so interesting because to. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.360 Me it's pretty obvious, Like he seemed really clueless. It's 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.880 probably pretty obvious, isn't it. Maybe just because we're women, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:29.960 But I. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.400 Think it's just that that like that they're pining for 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.000 something more, but none of them are able to say it, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.880 you know. But like I think in real life we 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.359 all know that like a twenty four gold necklace would say, wow, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.880 this is you know, a deeper relationship wouldn't be something 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.599 you'd do just for a remain or whatever. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.719 And so yeah, any gold night keeps saying twenty four 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.599 carrot as if now eighteen eighteen carrot is friendship, but 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:57.720 twenty just jewelry is intimate, it's romantic, and Billy's acting 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:58.200 like it's not. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.279 But then get her a book. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.400 People will say, you know, if you get a ring, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.200 that means a lot more. It doesn't have to get 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.000 an engagement ring, but a ring more than like, ugh, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.120 you know, you often see it where the woman opens 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.560 a box and she's expecting a ring, piece of jewelry 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.800 and it's earrings, which right, it isn't doesn't mean as 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:16.720 much as the ring. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.520 You know, there's all these levels of meaning. And have 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:20.160 you ever been at. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.279 That point in a relationship where I have been several 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.600 times where you're kind of getting it's deeper and deeper 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.600 and they give you jewelry but they say it's not 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.640 the ring. Like you have to say, like I'll say, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.720 you've been together to I'm warning you before you've been 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.599 together two years, if you give someone a jewelry box, 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.000 you have to be clear, this is not an engage. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.760 I just I just wanted to get you a nice 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.160 pair of arrings. Now go ahead and open it. Yeah, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.000 like a little warning. That's funny. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.040 I think you know what I did, like ultimately at 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.640 that episode and between that couple, because you know, as 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.760 I said before, when we were doing the recap, Joe 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.120 and Jake are like, you know, they just like hook up, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.359 and they they well, we can talk about that next 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.640 that they are making out on the sofa and then 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.320 you know, he starts to unbutton something and she's like, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.159 now this is a slow down, and he goes, whatever 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.080 you want and she says, just this just the making out. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.480 I was just going to bring up how this uh 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.160 storyline is different at a different pace with two different 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.200 people than the Billian Allison, which is it's been there's such. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.400 A history of the friendship kind of chemistry and they 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.880 have it's as cool and great a chemistry and to 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.840 me that means sort of a long term thing. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.120 It's just different than Jake and Joe. But okay, they're 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.760 making out on a couch. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.360 And and so there's there's like the larger question is this, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.760 you know, like for for us in our you know, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.800 in our opinion, is this, is this a good idea 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.800 for her to like move into this new apartment and 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.600 immediately start a thing with the with the you know, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.840 with the neighbor whatever, Like, is that is that really 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.440 a great idea? Like Billy and Allison's choice is you know, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.120 probably a little bit maybe better like just we're trying 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.800 to be friends, but ooh, now we're having trouble maintaining 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.720 a friendship because we're actually finding that we have more 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.760 interest in each other than you know, just roommates whatever. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.040 But Joe comes into this new apartment building and immediately, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.400 you know, is willing to start a thing. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.160 And Jake seemed to be like more than open to 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:21.760 it right from. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.960 The get go, Like, is that a great idea to 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.200 get involved with somebody in your apartment building? 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:27.080 No? 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.360 Probably not right, Like what happens if that goes around? 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.079 I mean, what do you do with that feeling? I mean, right, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:34.920 what are you supposed to do with it? You live 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.720 right near each other. It's almost like you got to 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.520 go through with the feeling and the impulse and it's 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.760 gonna happen. If it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. It's 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.240 either sooner or later. But then you got to deal 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:46.120 with repercussions. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.360 And it's I guess it's the same conversation for like, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.080 do you get involved with somebody that you work with? 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.200 And yeah, you too, we did and everything you know 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.720 worked out okay, like nothing nothing turned into a disaster, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.360 you know whatever, But but there's no things in why 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.360 maybe you shouldn't. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.360 You know, doesn't mean you don't, but maybe you shouldn't. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:04.960 Yeah. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.800 I think what was smart about the way they did 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.320 Jake and Joe for the writers is that while we 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.120 have this simmering, endlessly simmering thing with Billy and Allison, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.800 it's like we'll give you this, this hot couple is 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.160 going to be making out, so you have the audience, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.960 so you have this great thing and that dichotomy is 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.679 so good and billiy and Nelson not being able to 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:28.480 share their feelings and you guys just like going for it. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:29.680 I love that balance. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.600 I thought I didn't an episode really fun. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.600 And to me it really made sense because of who 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.200 they are. There conversations that they have and they both 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.520 have run They run from the past, they run from people. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.000 They are not great at this stuff, but there is 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.840 a chemistry that they connect and get intimate on and 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:48.880 they need that and that's. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:49.400 How they do it. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.000 And I just they really as we see because they 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.600 stay a couple for quite a while, but it makes 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.560 sense for those characters. To me, I just don't see them, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.560 you know, not doing it. Uh And I feel like, yeah, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.360 same at work. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.360 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.440 you a Charlotte. In nineteen ninety seven, my life was 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.360 forever changed when I took on the role of Charlotte 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.839 Yorke on a new HBO show called Sex and the City. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:21.760 As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate relationships 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.199 in New York City. The show helped push once unacceptable 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.080 conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.240 around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.800 as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.800 Now I want to connect with you and share untold 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.200 stories and all the behind the scenes together with special guests. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.319 What will begin with sex and the City. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.080 Will evolve into talks about themes that are still so 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.000 relevant today. Are You a Charlotte is a much more 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.720 than just rewatching our beloved show. It brings the past 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.880 and the present together as we talk with heart, humor, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:10:59.839 and of. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.679 Course some optimism. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.199 Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the iHeartRadio app, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.280 Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.440 Daph did you ever have a relationship with somebody you 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:13.839 worked with? 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.360 Oh? Yes, okay, I mean I've been working since I'm seventeen, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.480 you know, and they're long hours and I worked. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:24.160 A lot, so right, it's like not advisable, But you know, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:25.240 what are you going to do? 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.080 Yeah? You kind of. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.480 I think I'll ask you guys, because you both did 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.880 this on this show that we're talking about your acting 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.640 skills come in handy, you know, because you are on 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.240 the clock and you have certain lines to deliver and 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.600 certain emotions to deliver, and they have maybe the total 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.320 opposite of what you experienced off hours or with this 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.640 other person, and they're there on set, and wherever you 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.480 are in that relationship, you got to act. You got 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.640 to show up and be a pro right as best 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:53.200 as you can. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.240 Well. I feel so lucky in that Andrew was the 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.080 person on that set that I connected with because we 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.480 helped each other through that first crazy year when things 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.800 got crazy. We're so like supportive because we're good friends too, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.679 and we always were good friends even when we were 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:12.040 together as a couple. And so grateful that when the 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.280 romantic part left our relationship that we could still be 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.600 together because our characters were still together. And it's just lucky, right, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:24.079 because unless both people are being professional and kind, it 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:28.320 can be awful. And it wasn't. And I'm so grateful 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.360 that it wasn't, because he or I could have made 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.240 it awful and I'm just grateful neither. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:33.560 Of us did. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.120 It was sweet. It was it's still sweet still. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.679 I think of him, was so much love and gratitude 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.880 to this day. That was a really special time in 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:42.400 my life. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.560 Everything turned out just fine. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.240 Yeah, No, I mean, like you know, Grant and I 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.240 dated during during the run of the show, and there 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.000 was you know, a moment of inevitability when the storylines 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.040 circle around and it's going to be like, oh, now 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.920 Sidney's going to be you know, in a storyline with Jake, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.720 and just sort of that inevitability of every character is 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 gonna loop around and somehow have a relationship with it. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:10.840 But there was this feeling like, wait, is that because. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.199 We're together in real life and then you. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.840 Know that's being there was this like oh it just 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.439 that sort of uncomfortability that those are repercussions. I think 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.560 professionally that you have to like you're saying like, okay, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.040 now we got to deal with this sort of on 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:31.160 camera relationship where we also have this completely different in 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.160 real life being right, But also I just I think 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.160 that like the repercussions I think are even greater just 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.120 to think are we going to make sure that we 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 can end this well and not badly? 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.439 Or like living in an apartment building, like ooh. 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.200 If I start something with somebody in my apartment building 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.000 and it, it eventually comes to an end. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.520 You know, how do I make that be? 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.000 We all try our best. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.240 Nothing is listen in the world of love, nothing is 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.880 totally me and perfect, and we do our best and 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.880 things have their ending. And frankly, I think in this culture, 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:12.360 this fantasy of romance always focuses on the beginning, the hotness, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.200 the feelings, and then the passion and then the middle, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.760 and no one ever focuses on the end. The end 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:19.560 is an important part of it too, And to do 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.080 it skillfully it's really hard because I don't think we 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.160 have a lot of role models. We all have broken 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.880 heart and people are left and stuff, and so you know, 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.320 I remember once I had a breakup. It wasn't with 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.320 someone I was working with, but you know, we went 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.400 to my therapist. We had the most beautiful situation, and 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.080 to this day it's like he we honored the ending 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:38.320 of it. 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:39.600 And I don't think a lot of people do it. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.440 And I think that's really hard if you're working twelve 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:42.480 hours a day with someone. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.480 But you know, we do our best. Yeah, you know, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:46.240 and you got your. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.680 Lucky When Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin broke up and 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.160 they said Conscious and Company, and they got so much 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.920 crap for it. But here's the truth, right, if you 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.320 can uncouple, Like the romantic part of our relationship isn't here, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.080 But if there's enough good to make contain a friendship, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.359 that's amazing because it wasn't in theory. Like for most relationships, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.720 it's not just sex that bonds you, right, hopefully there's 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.520 a real emotional connection. It's amazing if you could keep that, 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.840 especially obviously if you're working together, then that's it. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.400 And even if you're not going to be friends, just 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.400 like a story, like a movie, like an episode, there's 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.040 an ending. There is an ending that has as much 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.960 importance as the middle and the beginning, and at least 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.000 honor that. And maybe you'll never see each other or 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.640 talk together, but you know, especially if you're working together, 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.400 I would think that that would be so important. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.880 But you okay, So speaking of relationship consequences, yes, the 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:43.440 fact that Michael brought Kimberly to his apartment complex while 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.720 his wife is out of town for the Christmas party, Like, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.920 what do you think that would actually look like in 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:49.280 real life? 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:49.800 All answer? 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.360 First, totally bad move, Like not cool? 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.480 Yeah, not cool? 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.520 I think it makes it look innocent though, because I'm 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.720 bringing my friends, So why would I ever bring each. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.600 Try like, I'm sorry. If May's then. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.120 And said we made a baby today together, Yeah that. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.600 Was I mean, they that was mad. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.360 But if my husband brought a coworker to like a 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.920 family party when I was out of town, that would 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.720 that would feel very weird. Especially they've already had this 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.040 conversation of like, should I be jealous? You know, he's 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.160 already said, oh, we I really connected with this other, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.000 this colleague of mine, and she's beautiful and whatever, and 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.680 Jane has to say, should I be jealous? 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.080 And he's like maybe, but don't play that groundwork. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.840 And then also bring her while I'm out of town 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:31.320 to the Christmas party? 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:31.720 Not cool? 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.520 I mean, this is one thing they say, I thought 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.960 I thought this was interesting. Uh they did not say 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.520 in this episode, but if the wife. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.040 Knows, then okay, if he had. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:44.119 Called Jane and said this person Kimberly, we let's. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.480 Pretend we know nothing about the future. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.120 Yeah, you know, when they were she was lonely, and 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.080 they did go through a lot that day, a death 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.320 of a child and the birth, and it's like, oh, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:53.120 it's a normal thing. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.680 I'm having a potlug. You want to come? If you 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.080 call your wife. If the wife knows, then it's not 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:58.640 a secret. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.200 If the wife doesn't know, then it's a secret, which 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.000 means no, it's not a good idea. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.200 That's a good point. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.159 And also it is a little bit hard to divorce 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.639 myself from like knowing what I know of those two 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.600 characters to go, well, if I was, you know, but 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.720 I guess in real life you don't have that crystal 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.919 ball either to know what's coming. So it was like 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.720 a very Christmas y like goodwill sort of extension to 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:24.560 a friend, of. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.240 Course, saying you have nowhere to go, of course you 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.720 should come celebrate Christmas here whatever you know. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.640 So but the clarity, I think it's just gets cloudy, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.960 like knowing what we know or whatever. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.600 I'm like, oh, absolutely uncool. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.280 But it's so fun watching it now because we do know, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.280 and the audience does know what a disaster that woman 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.560 and that guy turns into. And they're just sitting there 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.560 so innocently in her little inner sweater oversized sweater. Oh hi, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.920 and this happy family vibe, you know, with all these 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.280 people and Matt has made the meal and the Turkey's 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.919 Out and yeah, you're just going, it's just hilarious watching 0:17:58.920 --> 0:17:59.280 it now. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.840 I love that you get like this extra opportunity to 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.280 dive a little bit deeper into some of these things 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.800 that happened in the episodes. We're going to be doing 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.280 these every week with our recaps. We're going to add 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.080 these Melrose Minutes so because we need extra time to 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.879