1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: It's that time, time time, time, Luck and load. 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: The Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: Eric Navarro has been a guest of ours with a 4 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Middle East Forum in the past on military matters, particularly 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: related to Iran. We conducted an interview with him earlier today. 6 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: Immediately afterwards, Iran hit the US base in cutter So 7 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: some of what he says he does not have the 8 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: virtue of knowing that just yet. 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: I will get to that later in the show. 10 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Eric Navarro of the Middle East Forum is 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: our guest. We're talking about what happened in Iran, and 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: for someone to be very clear that this is I 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: am not an interventionalist an interventionist. I am not a 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: regime change guy. I am not typically in favor of 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: those sorts of things. My views, like many folks, have 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: evolved over the years. I am not suggesting that you 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: have to support the effort of what happened in Iran. 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting you have to support regime regime change. 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: I do think these are conversations we should have and 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: something did just happen, and we're discussing what happened, so 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: I want you to understand why we do that. 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Is. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: It's not an advocacy project, to be clear at all, 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: I think this is a nuanced question. It's a very 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: complicated question as it relates to our nation and the world, 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: and we should have thorough conversations with each side. We'll 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: have the Thomas Massey's on as well. We'll have the 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Ran Paul's on as well. To be very clear, Eric 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 3: Navarro is our guest, and I wanted to ask you 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: as we were going into the break, why now President 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: Trump had four years to do this, what has changed, 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: if anything, has he changed or has the region changed? 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: Well, before I answer that, I do want to address 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: you just said about the regime change. I'll be honest, 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 4: I am personally for regime change. But even if we 36 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: don't do that, even if we stopped short of that, 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 4: and we just stay with what we've done right now 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: and just support Israel, that's still a win, that's still effective, 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: that's still re established as the terms, and then we 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: let the chips fall where they may internal to Iran. 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: So even if we stopped short of regime change, if 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: the regime is just weakened, it's still the region is 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: safer with their weaken Duran and the world is safer, right, 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: So I want to be clear, I totally understand the 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: objections to getting fully and fully involved with pushing redeem change, 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: but even now, just destroying their nuclear capabilities was a 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: critical step in re establishing strategic to terms. Now to 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: your question about why now, well, there's a lot of 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: different reasons. One is the Democratic administrations did not see 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: conflict at all. They sought Dayton with the Iranian regime 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: right obviously with the JPCOA with under Obama, and then 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: after Biden came in, he tried to resurrect that get 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 4: and freed up I think one hundred billion dollars, which 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: by the way, directly went and flowed to the Iranian 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: proxies Hezbel Alhamas and the Huti's, which then destabilized the 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: entire region. So yes, why now, that's the reason Iran 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: was back in the region sing hate and discontent. And 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: then you had October seventh, and so that opened up 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: the Pandora's box, right. It as to turns out to 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: be a massive strategic miscalculation on the part of Iran 61 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: and its proxies. They thought they would be able to 62 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: defeat the Israelis. They instead awoke in them right. So 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: once they did that, Israel had to strike back. And 64 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 4: then if you recall, I think a year ago, so 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: Iran directly attacked Israel. So that opened things up where 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: Israel had to fully respond. And now at the same time, 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: they're saying death to America, death to Israel, and we 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: know that they're trying to pursue nuclear weapons. And now 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: they directly attacked our main ally in the region and 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: threatened US. Oh and by the way, tried to assassinate 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: our president several individuals and have been arrested trying to 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 4: do that. They op the ante as far as they're 73 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: threatening actions towards US and Israel, and so that's why 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: we have to strike. That's why Israel had to strike, 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: because they can't wait for right when they got ninety 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: percent in rich Urania, they cannot even wait. So when 77 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: they get sixty percent, they have to defeat or eliminate 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: the threat before it ever gets to that point, because 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: in a country that small, one nuclear detonation annihilates the country. 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Eric Navarro is our guest with the Middle 81 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: Eastern with the Middle East Forum. Speaking of regime change. 82 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: Most everyone agrees that President Trump has not pushed for 83 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: or provoked regime change, either diplomatically or militarily, and that 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Israel has held off as well, in that Komani could 85 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: have been taken out by now, and the theory being 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: that keeping him there without his top layer of generals 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: and without anyone else to replace him makes him makes 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: Iran less dangerous than if a very powerful force comes in. 89 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: We saw this in Syria where uncontrollable and uncontrolled interests 90 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: have taken charge there. We saw that in Egypt after Haisnibubark. 91 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: We saw that in Libya destabilized after Kadafi. We saw 92 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: that in Iraq after Hussein, where Iran had a great 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: deal of influence there. How long do you foresee this happening? 94 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: What do you personally foresee happening in Iran in a 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: year to five? 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: So that I totally understand that argument, and that's the 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: argument against the lawn regime change and us trying to 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: affect it. I believe though, that if we have fully 99 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: eliminated the nuclear weapons program Iran, and if we've detapitated 100 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: the leadership of the theocracy, I expect the regime to 101 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: collapse on its own or through the forces internal to 102 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: the country. See, they had to rely that they being 103 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: the regime, had to rely on the image of strength. 104 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: That's how Actually, if you follow the communications from the 105 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: Hutis and Halas and heswell too, it's all an extension 106 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: of Iranian strength or Shia strength against the infidels or 107 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: against Israel and the US interests in the region. So 108 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: once that is pierced, now not only are their proxies 109 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: unsure if they'll even survive, and they're worried about themselves, 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: so which weakens their ability to affect or attack US 111 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: or Israeli forces. But now they have to worry about 112 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: the effect on their own population in Iran because they live. 113 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: Their own population has lived in fear so long because 114 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: they thought the regime was strong, was had the ability 115 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: to put them down and to strike fear into the 116 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: hearts of the West. Once that's gone, these regimes tend 117 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: to collapse under their own weight. Same thing happened with 118 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: the Soviet Union. Now it took a long time, right, 119 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: but what happened there it was maximum Western pressure against 120 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: the push of communism around the world. Here it needs 121 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: to be maximum Western pressure against the theocracy, and then 122 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: over time that theocracy loses legitimacy. This is also if 123 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: you wing to again into specific steps we could take. 124 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: This is where again informational influence campaigns in public decrying 125 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: the weakness of the regime, continually targeting the top leaders 126 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: around the Alantola. Every time one of them pops up 127 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: their head, he's eliminated. That's what's happening with the Israeli stripes. 128 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: Every time they replace a general, then his replace and 129 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: gets killed. That's what the Israelis did to the hezel 130 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: Law forces, which have now rendered an imposite right. Every 131 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: time a leader popsterhead, they have to worry about their 132 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 4: own survival, which means they can't effectively command their forces. 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: And here, the more crushing you put in the regime, 134 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: the more likely I believe that it's going to collapse 135 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: under its own way. 136 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Listen to the Michael Berry Show podcast and you'll be 137 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the room. Share with your friends 138 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: and you'll be the most popular too. 139 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: Art Navarro has been a guest of ours with a 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: Middle East Forum in the past on military matters, particularly 141 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: related to Iran. We conducted an interview with him earlier today. 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Immediately afterwards, Iran hit the US base in Cutter So 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: some of what he says he does not have the 144 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: virtue of knowing that just yet. 145 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: I will get to that later in the show. 146 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Eric Navarro of the Middle East Forum is 147 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: our guest. I am advised that he has a new title, 148 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: which is Director of Military and Strategic Programs at the 149 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: Middle East Form. Lieutenant Colonel Navarro, let me ask you, 150 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: when you look at the actual effort these B two bombers, 151 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: the hit on Fordau and Esfahan, you know, the question 152 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: still remains. You know, Iran's government is saying, well, you 153 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: didn't get to the good stuff. We relocated it in time, 154 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: and I think it's more of a pr battle at 155 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: this point. But in your estimation, how much of what 156 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: was intended to be done, what degree of damage strategically 157 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: was accomplished. 158 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to know right any battle damage assessment 159 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 4: will take time. We have all sorts of different intelligence 160 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: gathering methods. We have the satellites and space based assets, 161 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: but we also probably have assets on the grounds either 162 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's U asked, but you have Israelis, 163 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: you have Iranian forces or covert actions that would probably 164 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: have to take a look at the facility. There's also 165 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: another thing. You have to watch the behavior of the 166 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: Iranians on the ground, see how they react in and 167 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: around the site. I know that they're saying there's no 168 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: radiation leaks, we'll see, but also do they try to rebuild. 169 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: I saw earlier today on social media there was the 170 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: video of sixteen cargo trucks that supposedly came in and out. 171 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: You got to question everything you see because why would 172 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: you see that right now? Why would anybody release that 173 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: publicly extent as a part of an influence campaign? Right So, 174 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: I would take everything with the grain of salt. Right now, 175 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: all I know is this one, we re established strategic 176 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: to terms. Two, we put the Iranian regime on notice, 177 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: and three we definitely destroyed and degraded their capabilities to 178 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: a significant extent. We dropped multiple massive ordinance penetrators, thirty 179 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 4: pounds of kinetic force towns of five explosive force that 180 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: did damage the facilities and degrade them to a point 181 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: that probably renders it useless. At most they'd have to 182 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: try to relocate and rebuild over time. But I'll say 183 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: don't forget that. At the same time, the Israelis are 184 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: continuing to strike them, and again they're worried about their 185 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: own survival, so they have no time. I think Foordoh 186 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: was built over many, many years, so they don't have 187 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: the capability to develop nuclear weapons right now. That's a 188 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: good thing. That's the end result of this strike, and 189 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: then they've been put unnoticed, that they will receive further strikes, 190 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: that they continue to threaten the region and the US. 191 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: Let's assume for a moment, Lieutenant Eric Navarro of Middle 192 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: East Forum is our guess. Let's assume for a moment 193 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: that this government remains in place, and that this government 194 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: is defiant, and that this government is vengeful, all of 195 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: which are highly possible, and that they don't simply want 196 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: to tucktail and be left alone, as Saddam Hussein seemed 197 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: to be after ninety one, at least for some period 198 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: of time, as Kadafi was after Ronald Reagan bombed the 199 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: tent and killed his daughter. Let's assume for a moment 200 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: that Iran says, no, I've got to show my people 201 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: in order to stay in power. 202 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: That the Iatola says, I've got to strike back. What 203 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: does that look like? 204 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: Are those internal terror attacks in the United States? Is 205 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: that a tax on American basis? I mean, the Straight 206 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: of Horror moves can be closed, presumably, but that hurts 207 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: China more than the United States. What are the options 208 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: of what is most likely in your mind to happen, Well. 209 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: The options are what you laid out right. So they 210 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: could try to do a naval blockade of the Straight 211 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 4: of Horror moves, but like you said, it actually impacts 212 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: Chime them much more than the US and the West. Plus, 213 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: we could just simply destroy their naval capabilities. Not only 214 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: that will work, they can launch missiles and other trone 215 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: attacks against US forces and bases in the region. They've 216 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: already been doing that prior to even this engagement, so 217 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: nothing new there, and we've defended it. We've also repositioned 218 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: our forces and that's exactly what we. 219 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: Have to do. 220 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: And then there's the eighth symmetric. Absolutely, there could potentially 221 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: be sleeper cells in the West, which by the way, 222 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: shows exactly why we needed a strong border policy to 223 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: begin with, right, because if you're worried about sleeper cells, 224 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: then I don't know how you wouldn't be concerned about 225 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: who you led into the country. 226 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: But that's nothing. 227 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: You know, President Trump has successfully closed down the border, 228 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: so now we got to worry about the threats that 229 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: are potentially inside our border. No conflict and no action 230 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: is without risk. I do believe that the Trump administration 231 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: has signaled that they take these risks seriously and are 232 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: mitigating them. They're putting everyone unnoticed. They had the full 233 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 4: government approach, FBI, Homeland Security, military intelligence, all watching to see. 234 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: Now We'll say I saw earlier reports today where it 235 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: was kind of leaked out the arranging the potential Iranian response, 236 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: and I think they recognize that if they go too far, 237 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: they will get annihilated. That's exactly what the President Trump 238 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 4: signaled to them. So if they if you can trace back, 239 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 4: if there's a terrorist attack and it's traced back for Iran, 240 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: I think that's a red line that they've crossed. And 241 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: then I think he will he will fully affect ravine 242 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: change in that case. And so if the Ayatolas are 243 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: fully in survivable mode right now, they will be well 244 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: to avoid crossing that red line. I think they need 245 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 4: to focus on going to grounds. This is putting my 246 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: you know, if I'm in their shoes, they should go 247 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: to ground they should take their lumps and they should live, 248 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: try to live, to fight another day and bide my time. 249 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: That's the only that's the only option they have. I 250 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: think they're going to be running out of missiles as well. 251 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: Nobody that I know of is resupplying them with their 252 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: ballistic missiles, although maybe Russia's Tryina will try it, but 253 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: I doubt it. And so they will be dwindling, Their 254 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: resource will redwindling, and they'll be worried about keeping their 255 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: population and chet that's what that's what I expect to happen. 256 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Interesting times we're living in. 257 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Lieutenant Colonel Eric Navarro, the director of Military and Strategic 258 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: Programs with Middle East Forum, honored to have you back, sir, 259 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: and we'll have you back again soon. 260 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 261 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: And to be clear, we conducted this interview late morning, 262 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: actually about noon after noon today, and within minutes of 263 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: the interview being concluded, Iran hit US military base in Cutter. 264 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: We're still waiting to get more details on what that 265 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: looks like. So some of the questions I posed during 266 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: that conversation have since been answered. For any number of reasons, 267 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: Iran is in fact choosing to escalate this conflict. And 268 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: that poortends things. You know, I know, I know, folks 269 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: love to say, you know, we're the toughest, we're the baddest. 270 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm as proud and confident American as a kid. But 271 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: when you enter into these sorts of things, you also 272 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: have to understand, uh, that you have exposure. We've got 273 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: military personnel around the country, and we've got uh, we've 274 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: got folks under the influence of the the Irani administration 275 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: living on American soil, with the capability to do harm here, 276 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: and both of those things, both of those things should 277 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: make us very very circumspect. 278 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: We'll continue that conversation. 279 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: Listen to the Michael Berri Show podcast if you dare. 280 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: It's rather clear, it's rather clear that we're going to 281 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: see a sustained conflict certainly appear to be, and we 282 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: will talk about that. 283 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: Using known facts that are not large in question. 284 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: We do not do breaking news on this show because 285 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: we do not trust primary sources and we're not going 286 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: to repeat something we don't. 287 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: Know to be true. 288 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: What we do know to be true is that the 289 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: effort in Iran was one of clinical precision that has 290 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 3: not been doubted. Jennifer Griffin with Fox News, their Pentagon 291 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: correspondent made the statement that she's never seen such operational 292 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: security in her eighteen years at the Pentagon as a 293 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: surrounding operation Midnight Hammer. 294 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: You know you ever tried. 295 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: To coordinate a surprise birthday party for your spouse three 296 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: weeks away. 297 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: It's impossible. 298 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: Somebody's going to tell somebody who's going to tell them 299 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: accidentally to carry out an effort like this. Let's assume 300 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: you got the people in seich suation room who don't 301 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: tell their spouses, because if one of them does, If 302 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: a fellow tells his wife, she tells her one best friend, 303 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 3: you can't tell anybody but her one best friend says, 304 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: I can't tell anybody except for my daughter. 305 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: Her daughter calls her friends, says, you don't believe this. 306 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: My mom says that our best friend. They're going to do, 307 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: and this is what's going to happen. It's specter. 308 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: What's because it's about that person. People want to share 309 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: because it shows how knowledgeable they are. It only takes 310 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: one one loose lip sink ships one person to do it. 311 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: But now add to that, you've got military personnel involved 312 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: all the way down the line. And I think we 313 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: can trust those guys a lot more than politicians. But 314 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: it takes one person, just one that hates Trump, to 315 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: compromise this effort. So here's what she had to say. 316 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 5: In the last eighteen years since I've been at the Pentagon, 317 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: I've never seen such operational security. There was nobody speaking 318 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: about this, any of the preparations. There was a complete lockdown, 319 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 5: almost a blackout of information for the last few days. 320 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 5: I'm sitting here in the Pentagon right now, I can 321 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: tell you the hallways are empty and all of the 322 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 5: information is coming right now out of the White House. 323 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: That is a significant achievement because there were no leaks 324 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 5: about the timing. Now, sometimes I think those who a 325 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 5: lot of the flight trackers, the open source intelligence flight trackers, 326 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: that flight radar did indicate some of the when the 327 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: B twos took off from white Men, But again, nobody 328 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: really expected that it would take place this evening. If 329 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: you looked at the moon schedule, you might have had 330 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 5: a clue because it was a waning crescent and almost 331 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: a new moon on the twenty fifth, so it would 332 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: have been very very dark over Iran tonight, and you 333 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: need that in order to to bomb. That's the ideal 334 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: condition for something like a B two. That is, yes, 335 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 5: itself stealth, but it still has to be escorted in 336 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 5: in case any Iran were to put up any planes 337 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: or there were any opportunities to fire on those B twos, 338 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 5: which are such valuable and very very special planes. 339 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: Only the US military. 340 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: Has this kind of weaponry and this capability. No other 341 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 6: country in the world could have carried off what occurred 342 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: tonight at those three uranium enrichment sites in Iran. 343 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: John Bolton immediately took to the air to say he 344 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: was very much in favor of this effort. Of course 345 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: he was. He's in favor of every effort. So is 346 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: Lindsey Graham. That's why they they named it Operation Midnight 347 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 3: ham Or in his honor, and that's his favorite person 348 00:20:51,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: in his phone is listed as such. This is a 349 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: worgasm for Lindsey Graham and John Bolton and the Cheneys. 350 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't think President Trump feels that way. I don't 351 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: think he is a person who feels the need to 352 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: attack foreign countries militarily and more importantly, to put our 353 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: boys in danger in order to be considered a serious president. 354 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: I don't believe that to be true. I think that 355 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: his head is somewhere, If not in the Rand Paul 356 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: Thomas Massey category, it's certainly closer to mine, which is, 357 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: we don't lightly do battle. We don't lightly drop bombs 358 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: because there will be consequences to be paid. And I 359 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: think the President has shown I think he's built the 360 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: political capital in four years of being president. I will 361 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 3: remind you in two thousand and nine team, when Iran 362 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: downed an unmanned drone of ours, and Bolton and Pompeo 363 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: and Pence and the light were all demanding that we 364 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: attack Iran. The President went just to the brink and 365 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: engaged in brinkmanship, in the sense that he had Iran 366 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: on their heels that we were going to attack, and 367 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: he chose not to. And everyone on the left who 368 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: said this man will lead us into World War three, 369 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: the very people who themselves would like to lead us 370 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: into World War three, said that of him, and he 371 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: proved in four years and every opportunity to do so, 372 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 3: he chose not to. 373 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: Discretion was the better part of valor. 374 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: At the risk of being called weak, at the risk 375 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: of being called lacking the kahones, it doesn't take a 376 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: measure of great strength or bravery valor cahon is courage 377 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: toughness to order our boys into war, to risk their lives. 378 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: It actually takes a great deal of maturity and discretion 379 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: to hold off and find alternate means to give more time. 380 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: Were this not Donald Trump having ordered this operation, I 381 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: would have been far more critical. That's just a fact. 382 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: And the reason is he has earned with me at 383 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: least the political capital that he has not been one 384 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: to rush into war. So folks have told me, well, 385 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: Bibi Netanyahoo dragged him into this, is real, dragged him 386 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: into this. Maybe that's true, but they weren't able to 387 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: drag him into war four years as president. Well I 388 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: was told today, Yeah, but he's not on the ballot again. 389 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: He can do this now. Going to war makes presidents 390 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: more popular, not less. 391 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: And that's fact. 392 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: We are a nation who rallies behind our president, no 393 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 3: matter of the party, when we go into war as 394 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: a show of support. The only people who won't are 395 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: the extreme fringe, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, you name it. And 396 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: so if you were to ask my opinion on all 397 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: of this, I am skeptical of the need to go 398 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: in and do these things. I am not privy to 399 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: the inside briefing of where exactly Iran was of the 400 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: sixty percent of the ninety percent or whatever that may be. 401 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: But I do think I will give the President on 402 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: this occasion the respect that he has earned through his 403 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: presidency the first and up till now and going forward 404 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: to my job to ask questions. And I think that's 405 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: the most responsible approach we can take. 406 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: At this moment. 407 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: You've got dumb Michael Berry show. 408 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: New York City's mayoral primary will be tomorrow not getting 409 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: as much attention as it normally would. Socialist Zoran Mundani 410 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: has jumped ahead of Andrew Cuomo, the former governor of 411 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: the state, fifty two forty eight in the final round 412 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: of ranked choice voting. Ranked choice voting can alter a 413 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: an elections results a great deal. There are folks in 414 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: favor in those posed and at this point, I suppose 415 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter what our position is on the matter, because. 416 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: That's what they do. 417 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: In New York and since that's what they do, that's 418 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: what's going to happen. We did not get a chance 419 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: to talk today, we will in the coming days about 420 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: a THCHC ban that passed the State House and the 421 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: State Senate in Texas, and it had to be signed 422 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: by midnight last night by the governor or. 423 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: We have the opposite of pocket veto. 424 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 3: If the governor didn't sign it, it would automatically become law. 425 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: And ten minutes before midnight last night he vetoed that bill. 426 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: That is not to say that he is against regulation 427 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: on THHC products that have flooded the market in the 428 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: state of Texas, but it is to say that prohibiting 429 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: those products from adults turned out to be. 430 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: Polling showed very, very unpopular. 431 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: Our governor, who lacks leadership, who lacks real political conviction, 432 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: does not do anything because it's the right thing to 433 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: do or because he believes in it. He's like a merchant, 434 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: he's like a French a German appointee in the Vishy government. 435 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: He will do whatever is best for him in his 436 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: political career. 437 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: The people of Texas do not want an outright ban 438 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: on THHC products in the state of Texas. 439 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 3: We're tired of the social conservatism of the fifties. We 440 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: don't want to live in Iran. We don't want to 441 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: be in the theocracy. We don't want the neocons governing 442 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: our state. So that's a pretty big development in the 443 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: state of Texas, and it's a bit of a slap 444 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: down to the social conservatives who've gotten out of control. 445 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: And we'll have more time for that. 446 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: There will be a special session held at the end 447 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: of July that will address a number of issues. We 448 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 3: just concluded our state legislative session in state of Texas. 449 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: We have a legislative session every two years in odd 450 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: numbered years, and that will be worthy of a conversation 451 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 3: in the coming days, just not today. With everything we've 452 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: had going on and continue to go on, and I 453 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: expect to continue to go on through the night perhaps 454 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: and certainly in the coming days. I wanted to take 455 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: a moment before the program is over to congratulate the 456 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: LSU Tigers on I think it's their second national championship 457 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: win in only four years. What an incredible baseball program, 458 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: What an incredible athletic program, What incredible pride the state 459 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: of Louisiana has in their state institution, Louisiana State University, 460 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: the LSU Tigers. In the era of n it is 461 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: more competitive than ever before. And for that team to 462 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: win as they did, I think that Arkansas team was 463 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 3: the best team in the country and for them to 464 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: beat that team, well, they beat them four out of 465 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: five times for the season, pretty darned impressive. Sports are 466 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: a getaway from war and famine and disease and death. 467 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: And it is never more important than during a time 468 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: like this that we find some things other than war 469 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: upon which we tend to obsess, because it can have 470 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: an effect on what kind of husband, wife, father, son, boss, employee, neighbor, driver, 471 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: sharing lanes that we become. 472 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: And that is. 473 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: Your admonition to keep your perspective. These are the times 474 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: that try men's souls. These are times of great danger 475 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: and fear. Imagine that somebody in front of you or 476 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: behind you in the grocery store, somebody who maybe is 477 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: driving seemingly erratic or needs to get in as the 478 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: zipper effect of the freeway narrows. That person may have 479 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 3: a spouse or a son or daughter who is in 480 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: harm's way wearing our uniform. I think of all the 481 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: families that I know who send their kids off and 482 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: the pride they have as they finish their boot camp. Look, 483 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: how good they look, how good the uniform looks. And 484 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: that's part of the overall military experience. But the reality 485 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: is that at times like this, those families are bearing 486 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: a bigger share of the hardship of trepidation and fear, concern, 487 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: worry than the rest of us. 488 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: We all pray for those. 489 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: Young men and women who are now more than ever 490 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: in harm's way, but it ain't the same as it 491 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: being your own kid, or your own spouse, or the 492 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: mother or. 493 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: Father of your own child. It's just not the same. 494 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: And at times like this we should remember that we're 495 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: not just talking about war games on a computer screen. 496 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: We're talking about real, live human beings. And as tough 497 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: as we are and as badass as our B two 498 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: bombers are, and as their ability to fly undetected and 499 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: refuel in the air, and the precision nature of the 500 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: strikes and the technology, at the end of the day's 501 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: still going to be human beings involved. We're still going 502 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: to have Americans going in and out of airports and 503 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: foreign buildings the world over. And Iran has a sophisticated 504 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: network of folks capable with very simple technology of ending 505 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 3: the lives of our people, and I think a mature 506 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: approach to that is called for at a moment like this. 507 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: I saw that the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department put 508 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: up a message on their social media page Twitter. 509 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: I believe it was our hearts go out to. 510 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: The victims and families impacted by the recent bombings in Iran. 511 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: The sheriff came out and said that was a mistake 512 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: that shouldn't have been done. This is how far we 513 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: have fallen on the left, that they will look for 514 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: our enemy and provide comfort to them while criticizing our 515 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: own boys and girls. The Los Angeles Dodgers tried to 516 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: virtue signal by claiming that ICE went to Dodgers Stadium 517 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: last week and quote requested permission to access the parking lot, 518 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: and that the organization says ICE was quote denied entry 519 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: to the grounds by the organization. I'm not sure what's 520 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: worse That they thought that was something to brag about, 521 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: or that apparently now that's a lie. I guess that's 522 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: a reminder that we have a lot of work to 523 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: do on American soil. And with that, with a heavy 524 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 3: heart sign off from the program. I do enjoyed hearing 525 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: from you. If you are one of those aforementioned family 526 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: members of someone in harm's way, know that we are 527 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 3: all praying for you that we get through this very 528 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: difficult time and are there on the other end to 529 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: enjoy the spoils living in the greatest nation of honor. 530 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 3: My fellow Americans, it's an honor to talk to you 531 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 3: as always for seeing them all 532 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: Very love that Almos has left with him, and thank you, 533 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: and good night.