1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Big Fish, Small Pod. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Werdahl, and today is August thirty first. I 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: want to kick this off by talking about rivers a bit, 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: and you're really gonna have to just like roll with 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: me on that. I have some stray thoughts on the 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: day talking with the Marlwin's rotation, talking like Jason Adams 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: and the Tampa Bay Ray's bullpen, and I want to 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: look ahead and give you my September call ups who 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: I would pick in this situation as we approach the 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: final month of the season. Yeah, August thirty first, So 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: really rolling with me here. I want to talk about rivers, 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: so like I want to like talk about like the 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: spectrum of rivers and how like some are much different 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: than others. So like let's start in the middle really 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: like with like just a good solid river, the Mississippi River. 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: So it's a very. 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Like like I said, like a solid river. It has 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: like a good wide like width of the river. Boats 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: can go down it, you know, like they've done like 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: trading down that area for like years and years and years, 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: and some parts have like solid like rock cliffs on 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: the side. More to where you're like your Minnesota area. 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: And that's like a pretty like middle of the road river, 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: like a good river, no doubt, but like what you expect. 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: When you see a river. I suppose then you have 26 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: like the other ends of the spectrum. You have your 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: like big like washed like. 28 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Water overflowing sort of areas. I'm thinking, not quite like 29 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: a river, more like a bay area, like the Mobile 30 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: Bay being like a very like broad area of water 31 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: with land around there, still like a like a river, 32 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: but without much truly like pay attention to and like 33 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: the land. And then on the other end of that 34 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: you have like the Grand Canyon for example, like really 35 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: like in the Colorado River there that's like worn through 36 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: the earth, exposing just all these intricate details in the 37 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: sides of the rock ledge that like the Mississippi sort 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 2: of has that. 39 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: The Mobile Bay just like doesn't have that at all. 40 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: At best. You have just like sea level ground. So 41 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: that's like the rain of rivers. I say that to 42 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: you because I'm feeling like this Marlin season is that 43 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: more one of those points like the Mobile Bay, where 44 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: there's like a like a vagueity to it, You're not 45 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: quite sure what the rock formations around there are doing 46 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: totally recommend you check out Paige Lecky's coverage on MLB 47 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: dot com. 48 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Really like that goes. 49 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Into the Marlins clubhouse, has some interviews with Don Mattingly 50 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: and Joey. 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Wendel and words for Miguel Rojas that just like. 52 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: It's compelling, just that the Marlins feel that today was 53 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: just a bad day and it's own. 54 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: It's cool to see that. 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Talking about that game, Hazusluizardo just was not as sharp 56 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: as usual, per like savant rates per minute, down, velocity 57 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: down across the board on his pitches, just did not 58 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: have that sort of intensity he has as a pitcher 59 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: that like precision and intensity. 60 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: He just wasn't where he could be. 61 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: But I'm feeling like this Marlins team has a really 62 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: solid rotation. 63 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Like Lozarda against. 64 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: The race held up pretty well considering that he wasn't, 65 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, at the top of his game, and after 66 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: like Pablo's solid out against the Dodgers, Sandy, I want 67 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: to talk a bit about like Edward Cabrera there, it 68 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: really felt to me and it mirrored a bit what 69 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I saw today with like Zus Wizardo. They didn't seem 70 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: to be like fully aggressive against the opposing batters like 71 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera starting out seemed to get like rattled after 72 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: like the movie Bets home Run. But before then he 73 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: was kind of working like the edge of the zone 74 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: and not trying to overpower the hitters with his like 75 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: overpowering stuff. But anyways, the rumor really is that the 76 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: Marlins will be sending Trevor Rodgers to the Mountain today 77 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: coming off of International League Picture of the Weak honors, 78 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: because he was just shrimply the best pitcher for the league. 79 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: League Jade gets the side from Chops oh two waiting 80 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: I missed Trake three eleven. 81 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Punch out Trevor Rogers. 82 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: He has been four. 83 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: In a row. 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: Today should be a good showing for him should it 85 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: happen again. That's the word on the street. One of 86 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 2: the things I feel like I saw with this Raised 87 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: team in particular, was there just electric bullpen work. Obviously, 88 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: the like Marlins have had a habit of chasing away 89 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: cy young contenders two days in a row now scratched 90 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: starts four Gosslin and McLanahan. So the bullpen game the 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Marlins really like came out like in Miguhil roll Hus's 92 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: where it's flat. It seemed like they were just letting 93 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: a ground baller and Sean Armstrong let them be ground bald. 94 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: But later in the game, when the Marlins were solidly behind, 95 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: JJ Blodet had like a crazy at bat against Jason Adams, 96 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: and like blade, like for my eye, he has an 97 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: excellent eye, and he was so fooled on these pitches 98 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: just from the sort of just like wicked throwers you 99 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: just don't see anywhere else besides major League Baseball. And 100 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: then of course after him, Pete Fairbanks, and it starts 101 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: to feel like the like the Marlins were maybe playing 102 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: catch up already, but like we're certainly just not going 103 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: to be able to catch up. It's the sort of 104 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: overpowering stuff you see, and like Sandy or Edward Loose 105 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: and that's like the real, like rare pitching talent that 106 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: teams try to just accumulate and accumulate such a fascinating thing, 107 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: accumulation that has to be why we all watch baseball. Anyhow, 108 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: it makes me wonder how the Marlins will build their 109 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: own like high leverage bullpen like that, Like Jason Adams 110 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: really came in as like a true stopper. I read 111 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: a rumor on MLB trade rumors appropriately that the Marlins 112 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: are considering trading from their stash of pitchers. And it's 113 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: not that the Marlins are exactly like Shy in that category, 114 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: it's that so many have been injured that it does 115 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: feel like the Marlins are significantly behind a team like 116 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: the Race in terms of talent that could even be 117 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: put into a bullpen roll, let alone a rotation role. Thankfully, 118 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: there are plenty of pitchers that can fit into that 119 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: rotation role. 120 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: It's just a question of. 121 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Whether or not there's any more to go, like over 122 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: the top with relief. I could see someone like Braxton 123 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: Garrett just being such a different look in a late inning, 124 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: stealing strikes with beautifully placed curve balls, for instance. But 125 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: it's just not clear where that could come from in 126 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: the future, especially if the Marlins are looking to trade 127 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: from that potential, like and it just doesn't feel like 128 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: they can do that really because like we all want 129 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: to see a river really or like. 130 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Maybe a canyon. 131 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: That'd be like great, definitely better if like the Marlins 132 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: have this like must see team that's like that you 133 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: have to watch live. 134 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: It's just such like. 135 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: A funny moment in the season, even like believing that 136 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: like the team is heading in the right direction and 137 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: like getting closer to a contending point. It's definitely hard 138 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: to see that happening with trades taking away from the 139 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: Marlins talent and not signings just adding to it. It 140 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: isn't even really defined to me at this point what 141 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: the Marlins are as a team, like what their identity 142 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: truly is. They've been able to like develop pitchers and whatnot, 143 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: but it's not like, I don't know, I'm not clear 144 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: on that. 145 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: Maybe you are, but. 146 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got thinking on that because the World Baseball 147 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: Classic coming up, and how Miami is such a destination 148 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: for like all of the Americas and they could be 149 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: like really aggressively internationally scouting and finding players, and like 150 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: they've been making moves there. But like we're not a 151 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: point where that's like the Marlins identity. That's not who 152 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: they are. The Rays definitely have their like high spin 153 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: rate chaos guys like Jason Adams. So anyhow, looking ahead 154 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: at September call ups and the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp roster, 155 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: who I personally would bring up is Brian de la Cruz, 156 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: who's been batting like three twenty in Triple A this year. 157 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: He seems like set to go and like I want 158 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: to see him run with these other outfielders. And then 159 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: the other pick would be George Soriano, who's offered like 160 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: a high strikeout rate across like two levels this year 161 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: in the minors about seventy innings and mid two up 162 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: mid two's era seems ready for a look at the 163 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: major leagues. And that's why I hope they bring up 164 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: on September first, or rather like who I think they 165 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: might bring up. And really I just hope they bring 166 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: up whoever's best for the situation, whether or not that's 167 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: who I directly picked there. Anyhow, I'm gonna go back 168 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: to thinking about Rivers. Good talking to you. I'll be 169 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: back with you on Friday again. Today's game starts at 170 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: six forty with Drew Rasmussen of the Rays facing off 171 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: against a yet to be named starter for the Marlins. 172 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to stay tuned to Fish Stripes to find 173 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: out who the actual starter is. Is it going to 174 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: be Trevor, Is it not going to be Trevor. That's 175 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: the predicament. So yeah, I've been Andrew Riddall. I'll be 176 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: back with you on Friday,