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Speaker 1: Hello, Everyone's episode five nine of the Hemor Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brad Rowland, coming to you on a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday evening here in the early portion of March, and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as I often am almost always im honestly,

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Speaker 1: by my co host.

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Speaker 2: His name is Scott Coleman. Hello, sir, how are you hey, Brad?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing really well. We are three weeks away from

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Speaker 2: opening day, which is exciting. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: It felt like the month of January was the longest

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Speaker 2: month in the history of mankind, and then the month

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Speaker 2: of February just flew by, like seriously flew by. I

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Speaker 2: feel like players were showing up to spring training two

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Speaker 2: minutes ago, and now we are already into almost a

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Speaker 2: full week in the March. Real baseball will be here

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Speaker 2: before we know it, and we have a really good

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Speaker 2: show lined up today.

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Speaker 3: Yes we do.

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Speaker 1: And in a moment we'll be joined by half of

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Speaker 1: the Mets Up duo, our arch nemesis. I would say,

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Speaker 1: brace fans don't like the Mets, I get it, but

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Speaker 1: there are colleagues at fold Territory, at Mets Up, so

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Speaker 1: Jays will be joining us momentary. We kind of do

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Speaker 1: a preview of the Mets in some respects kind of

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Speaker 1: a know your opponent kind of segment. Brace fans will

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Speaker 1: be interested in the Mets for good or for ill.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We're ringing against to us all year alone, but they'll

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Speaker 1: be interested in the Mets after they literally, by the way,

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Speaker 1: spoiler alert, they tied last year of the state. It

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Speaker 1: could not have been closer with the Braves and the

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Speaker 1: Mets a year ago, save record all that stuff. We're also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, part of Fold Territory, and please subscribe

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Speaker 1: to our podcast. You can find us here at Hammer

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Speaker 1: Territory anywhere you find your podcast. We are covering the

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Speaker 1: Braves year round. That is our focus on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: But no days off for us and here we owe again,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time for Debn and the Mets.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of news not a tone going on.

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Speaker 1: The Bridge actually had an off day today, rare spring

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Speaker 1: off day as a recording this podcast on Wednesday evening.

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Speaker 1: But Tuesday made of news and mostly I would say

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Speaker 1: it was tied to the duo of Chris Sale who

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Speaker 1: beat Raining SIGHTNG winner who pitched the second time It's

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Speaker 1: print training on Tuesday, and he was caught for the

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Speaker 1: first time ever by probably the most, you know, the

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Speaker 1: biggest topic of all Drake Baldwin after the injury to

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, which our colleagues Stephen and Sean ablely broke

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Speaker 1: down on the podcast on Monday evening, the reaction to

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Speaker 1: Murphy being out four to six weeks, all of that stuff,

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Speaker 1: which kind of lines up. It seems like Baldwin to be,

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Speaker 1: as the starting catcher as soon as opening day or maybe,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how that goes. Scott, what was

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Speaker 1: your reaction to this? There was some interesting quotes that

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Speaker 1: you pulled from Chris Sale also Sale it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's part of this too, But that was kind of

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Speaker 2: As we kind of suspected Drake Baldwin is I think

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you feel differently.

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Speaker 2: But that was kind of the immediate messaging from those

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Speaker 2: rib that Drake Baldwin is catching Chris Sale and health willing.

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Speaker 2: That very much seems like the opening day battery to me,

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Speaker 2: and it really just kind of emphasized the point of

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Speaker 2: we don't necessarily know exactly what the next six to

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Speaker 2: it's a non issue at all. Because Murphy's having a

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Speaker 1: Right, it's sarting not a huge problem. And I think

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Speaker 1: We don't want to really get all of that, but

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Speaker 1: you know, this is of the positions that the Braves

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Speaker 1: This is one of the better ones. Not because Murphy's

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Speaker 1: but put him out to inside and all of the

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Speaker 1: onar of this out, I think people were surprised by it,

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Speaker 1: even when I said it online. Drake Baldwin is going

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Speaker 1: like he's actually older than you think. The example that

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Speaker 1: But Baldwin is probably, you know, more polished than a

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Speaker 1: typical Quoe unquote prospect that's supposed to be that kind

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Speaker 1: let you deliver the quote in full, but Chris Sale

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Speaker 1: He's a very frank guy. But I thought the Braves

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Speaker 1: Stephen gave the caveyall like, hey, the Braves could could

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Speaker 1: It would surprise me, especially with what they've said on

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Speaker 1: that stuff to say, like, I think it's his job,

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Speaker 1: but like in the grand scheme of things, not a

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean getting a couple of weeks for

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing it going poorly.

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Speaker 2: Sure, maybe he isn't setting the world on fire. Maybe

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Speaker 2: and then they say, you know what, Drake right, nothing

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Speaker 2: something that I know folks around the team have said

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Speaker 2: that pitchers really like throwing to Drake. And two good

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Speaker 2: quotes here from Chris Sale. As you said a moment ago,

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Speaker 2: very much a straight shooter. Sale said, quote, He's got

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable work ethic, great routine, great attitude, and he's

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Speaker 2: has thrown to a lot of catchers, and hey, in

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows, Brad.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's it's kind of funny and not in

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Speaker 1: a battist Like we've been accused of being too nice

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Speaker 1: to Sean Murphy. I mean, he wasn't good last year.

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Speaker 1: We pointed that out at nauseum. I think that was

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Speaker 1: fair to say. I also don't think that erases his

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Speaker 1: entire career with body of work to that point. Both

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Speaker 1: things can be true at the same time. That's kind

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Speaker 1: of where I stand on Murphy. And look, if he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, We're not there yet though, So that's that's where

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Speaker 1: it was March second. And the way that Murphy.

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Speaker 3: Uh, euphoria bliss Like as again me coming from a

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Speaker 2: We got to get players to stop going to the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Scotta should pull this note that I'm gonna steal

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Speaker 3: It's really really stumper. We play the Marlins, I think

436
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,520
Speaker 3: either ten or at least seven times before we play you.

437
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 3: We play entire we go on a West coast trip

438
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,600
Speaker 3: before we play the Braves. The Mets don't have a Friday,

439
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,280
Speaker 3: Saturday or Sunday home game against the Braves or Phillies

440
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,960
Speaker 3: the entire season. You imagine that we two Thursday games

441
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 3: against you guys, and that's it for the entire thing,

442
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,400
Speaker 3: which is it makes me so mad as a fan

443
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 3: and a resident of New York. I'm going to be

444
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 3: into the field forty fifty times this year. It pisses

445
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,919
Speaker 3: me off. That's the case. But again it's just it

446
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 3: goes to show how important those games are going to be.

447
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,119
Speaker 3: And of course it's June, so it's a perfect landing

448
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,119
Speaker 3: spot for you guys to get Spencer Strydan, Ronald the

449
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,720
Speaker 3: Cooon your back to full strength. It literally could not

450
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 3: line up more perfectly. I guess we'll have an eye

451
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 3: at months not the same thing, but it's still hopefully's

452
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,199
Speaker 3: still just it's it's so annoying the way the schedule

453
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 3: works out. But I am, I can't even believe how

454
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 3: excited am, Like, what do you guys feel about the

455
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 3: Mets right now seeing them go on last season? Because

456
00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,439
Speaker 3: last year the way that the season and ended that

457
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 3: weird double headed that Monday afternoon where we kind of

458
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,879
Speaker 3: like everyone shook hands at the end of it, but

459
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 3: like nice split. But we had the dramatic win first

460
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 3: and then you guys had to go to San Diego

461
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 3: and we got we got blessed with the Brewers. It

462
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,320
Speaker 3: still didn't feel like to me, like we really beat

463
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 3: the Braves because none of the Braves were actually there,

464
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 3: Like we beat half the braves, we beat a couple

465
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 3: of the braves. Like what's your guys feeling after the

466
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 3: way last season ended and the way this Mets kind

467
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 3: of machine has moved since October last year?

468
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 2: I think Brad and I even if we never said

469
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 2: it officially on the pod. I think when Austin Riley

470
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 2: broke his wrist in mid August, we were just like,

471
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 2: you know what, man, you're out of Kunya, You're out Riley.

472
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: All these has been hurt all year. Aj Minter now

473
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: with the Mets, is out all year. That we know

474
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 2: that Chris Sale, the Sion winner, was gonna blow his

475
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: back out the very the last week of the season.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just, uh, it's just it

477
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 2: was just brutal. But I mean the Mets, I you know,

478
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 2: I think my one question about New York and I'm

479
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 2: curious to get your take on the rotation in particular.

480
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, I think if baseball had maybe sixteen man rosters,

481
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: are eighteen man rosters. I think New York's eighteen man

482
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: roster is as good as like anybody's, whether that's Dodgers,

483
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: the Yankees and Braves, the Phillies whoever. I do worry

484
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 2: a little bit about the depth kind of at the

485
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: back end of the rotation, and there were a couple

486
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: of injuries this spring, but I mean that's I don't know, Brad,

487
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 2: do you feel do you feel differently that that's.

488
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 3: Kind of my vibe on the Mets right now.

489
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Speaker 1: I mean I was at the top end Soto and Lindor,

490
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: like two of the top five players in baseball, something

491
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: like that. You got Alonzo, you get you get Alonzo back,

492
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: even though it took a long time because uh, he

493
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: probably should have taken the extension year ago. I'm sure

494
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 1: you're thrilled he didn't take the extension at this point

495
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: in time, static work that well for the team. But yeah,

496
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: between those three guys in the lineup, the top end

497
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Speaker 1: of the rotation potentially, Yeah, I'm kind of with you.

498
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 1: It's it's a scary top end. But you already jams

499
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: are you already kind of mentioned the pitching injuries? What

500
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Speaker 1: is there? What is the state of the rotation? I mean,

501
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: we have to ask you that considering the guys that

502
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Speaker 1: are already banged up for the Mets, and it wasn't

503
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 1: like a weakness coming in, but now down two guys, Like,

504
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: what do you make of what that's gonna look like?

505
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Speaker 3: It's definitely the weakness of this team. But I think

506
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: that there's kind of this built budding confidence inside the

507
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: Mess community and among the Mess organization that between David Stearns,

508
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: Jeremy Hefner, and Eric Jaegers, the pitching director for the organization.

509
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: There's things are just going to happen. Things will fall right,

510
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: like the way that David Peterson last year shows up

511
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 3: and has by far the best year's entire career, becomes

512
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: like a true legitimate mid rotation star. There someone who's

513
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: been very disappointing for the first half is a rookie contract.

514
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: The way that Koda Sanga developed his rookie year, figuring

515
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 3: out the color mid season May June and then taking

516
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: that kind of writhing that to a top five sow

517
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 3: Young finish the way the last year Sean and I

518
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: watches Chris Sale pitch against the Mets in the middle

519
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: of the season and he goes to his pitching coach.

520
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, can I work on my release point

521
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: and make it look like that? And he's like, yeah,

522
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: we could do that. Let's do some bullpens, and all

523
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: of a sudden he comes out the second half and

524
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: goes ballistic, like there's there again. I wish that these

525
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: guys weren't injured. I would love seanm and I and

526
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: Frankie Mantis and probably one more picture we've thrown on

527
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: top of this rotation, but there's just this confidence I

528
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: can't shake. And guys like Clay Holmes coming to the

529
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 3: rotation looks like a beast in spring training. A guy

530
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: like Tyler McGill being one year behind David Peterson finally

531
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: kind of finding his moment. A guy like Brandons Broke

532
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: Prospect only one year in the organization as a draftee

533
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: from twenty twenty three, like coming into the rotation mid

534
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: season and being someone who we can trust, not as

535
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 3: an ace, not as a guy who's gonna take the

536
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: world by storm, definitely not gonna be a swelling box

537
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 3: because that kind of sad, but someone who I know

538
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: can give us five, six seven innings every fifth, every

539
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth day. Like, I think that's kind of

540
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: the company line right now for the Mets, and I

541
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: think that you're gonna have to get some mintings from

542
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: Blackburn and Canning. They're going to have to give you something.

543
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: Every single team probably right now doesn't love their fifth

544
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: and sixth starters, six and seven starters. Unfortunately, the Mets

545
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: guys is going to have to be in there in April.

546
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: That's kind of the nature of the beast. That's why

547
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: every team six and seven starters are very, very very important.

548
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: But there's this weird again. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe this

549
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: is kind of get this, this is like part of

550
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: the one and so of the effect washing away my

551
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: entire life of Mets fandom. But this, this strange confidence

552
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: is just like watching over me and I'm I'm okay

553
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 3: with the fact that this rotation looks truthfully ugly on

554
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: paper right now, just based on the effect of who's

555
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: in charge of it and how well this lineup is

556
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 3: supposedly going to support it.

557
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't let Scott go, but I have to mention

558
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: that you just you just gotta snuck it in there.

559
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: But that's that's.

560
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: Braves legend, Griffin Canning, former Braves stand out great Griffin

561
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: Canny who they had for like five minutes and then

562
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: non tender. But hey, that's that's the same guy.

563
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: Everybody. Just get off that Hilaire contract, got the half

564
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: year production, made the playoffs, got rid of him for free,

565
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: like we don't want it, we just really want that

566
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: was it? Thank you so much?

567
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Brad, what was your favorite moment

568
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: of the Griffin Canning era.

569
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Speaker 3: They were just.

570
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: That that one that one podcast when we talked about

571
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: whether they're keep him or not, and they that was

572
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: it for different there.

573
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 3: It was a slow winter in Atlanta.

574
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Speaker 2: Sadly, let us all hope that Jerks and profar is

575
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: really good.

576
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 3: Was pretty good? Yeah, I think so.

577
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just the only he's just the only addition

578
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: that the Braves made, James. That's the thing as far

579
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Speaker 1: as major league real like big time investments.

580
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: He's the He's he's it. That's that's the list. Well,

581
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: have you guys heard Ronaldacune Junior.

582
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: You're adding he's pretty good too. Yeah, I know you're adding.

583
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: Him like these are new guys, right technically, wow, you.

584
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: You didn't know this, but you just went full chip

585
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: carry on us. That was We love that on this podcast,

586
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: Braves Form Breves rockout. He was a big fan of

587
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: the addition by injury comeback as like this is better

588
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: than a trade. That was that was a chip curious

589
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: and that you dropped off, which I appreciate.

590
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Audition by nothing.

591
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of players who left Atlanta and now is with

592
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Speaker 2: the Mets, aj Minter just an awesome, awesome reliever for

593
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: this team for years of course, last year kind of

594
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: a lost season. He tried to pitch through that hip

595
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: injury but just was never himself and then had surgery.

596
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: But you know, what is AJ's role going to be

597
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: with the Mets.

598
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the ninth inning is pretty locked down

599
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 2: in New York, but kind of what do you envision

600
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: him doing this upcoming season.

601
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: Minch's a guy who have just always not been able

602
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 3: to stand of course, because if you guys know who's

603
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: always getting the Mets out that he's always kind of

604
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: an asshole bat the while he was doing it. But

605
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: he's he's just a really good reliever. I just do

606
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: wonder about which mentor we're going with together. I know

607
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: the hip injury is a big deal last year, and

608
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: that kind of kind of torpealed his lasty towards the

609
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: end of the season, because last he still wasn't great

610
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season either, especially not like

611
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: ninety six ninety seven guy was the two years before,

612
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: and the striker rate was falling with that, and like,

613
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: I know, the color is still great and the fastball

614
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: shape is still good, so we can stand up to

615
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: some worse in velocity. But he giving him eleven million

616
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: dollars to me, like that whole thing is relying on

617
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: him basically throwing ninety six to ninety seven miles. Now again,

618
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: if they believe in that, I guess I have to

619
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: believe in that too, similar to everything I was just

620
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: saying about, just having blind conference right now in this

621
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: mess pitching machine. But I wonder about because I think

622
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: they're kind of counting on him to be like the

623
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: true seven man, or at least the tough lefty guy

624
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: right now because Danny Young and Hennis's Carbrera the other

625
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: lefties in his bullpen, though both of those guys are

626
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: not very much the right home about at all. I

627
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: think if those guys were on the scrap heap tomorrow,

628
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: iink it woulda him at LEAs two days to get

629
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: picked up. I don't think they exactly be like as

630
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: were grabbed immediately. So with Jose Buda moving to the

631
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: bullpen full time, being a good reliever but kind of

632
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: having his ups and downs, redguer than Daniel Nuniez came

633
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: out of freaking nowhere last year and became monsters by

634
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: the middle of the season. I'm very confident those two again.

635
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: Ryan Stanick, also by playoff time cond his whole self together,

636
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: but there's still a lot of It's not shaky, but

637
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: it's definitely still a little bit questionable until we get

638
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: to Edwin Diaz. So Minter are getting healthy and be

639
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: able to throw ninety six again is a huge deal.

640
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: I think he was weirdly one of the transaction this

641
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: offseason that the bulk of Mets fans are the most

642
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: excited about. Because Mets fans always scream about the bullpen.

643
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Everyone's fan base creates about the bullpen. That's roster bullpen.

644
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: Get run rough shot through by the Dodgers the NLCS.

645
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 3: It was a disaster, but it's going on in that

646
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: bullpen the NLCS. But I just think that Minter probably

647
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: is a little bit less secure right now of a

648
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: relief pitcher than most Mets fans want to believe. It

649
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: just it's really about that him, but hoping he could

650
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: be healthy and this case, he WoT thirty two, now

651
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: thirty one at least, so this is he's getting up

652
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: there a little bit of reliever. I just hope that

653
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: he can recover be the guy we wanted to be.

654
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always have to root for Aja, except for

655
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: when he's playing the Braves. I'm a big fan of

656
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: his work, but other than that one set of series, sayer, Okay,

657
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: this is going to be a two parter in some

658
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: respects for you, one positive and one negative. But I

659
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: think you're you're pretty optimistic for what it sounds like.

660
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: But part one is basically the Brave. Sorry, the Mets

661
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: win the Division this year. If what happens and then

662
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: the other side is they missed the playoffs, how does

663
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: that happen? Like, what's the upside of downside scenarios for

664
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: the Mets?

665
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: I love that question. So the Mets win the division

666
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 3: if someone in this rotation becomes a freak, like if

667
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: Tyler McGill says, I'm going to be really good all

668
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: of a sudden, if Clay Holmes is like, I'm now

669
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm a starling and I'm a really good one. If

670
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: David Peuson takes another step and this hall is also

671
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: on the back of Code I Sanga is healthy and

672
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 3: is the same Code I sang on twenty twenty three,

673
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: And at the same time, Mark fianz Is also has

674
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: to be the same player we saw last year, or

675
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: francisc G Walveras has to take the big step we're

676
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: waiting for. Basically, you need three of those five things

677
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: to happen. I just said for the Mess to win

678
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: this division, or I need something horrible to happens to

679
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Brace. I need something terrible to happen you guys.

680
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: I need Round not to be I need Round the

681
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 3: Couen to be bad when he comes back. I need

682
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: Specter Streider not to be able to come back healthy.

683
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: I need Swelling back. I know it's terrible. I have

684
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: been too many fantasy leagues, but he's He's the injury

685
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: rail of PAS, especially in Nebraska. I need I need

686
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: Chris Sale the back to Bark. I need something bad

687
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: to happen to the Braves, and a lot of good

688
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: things happen to the Mets, because I still think honestly

689
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: that you guys are like a full rung above this

690
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: team truly are Like if I'm looking at most projection

691
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: systems right now, the Braves are clearly to me in

692
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: ninety win team ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, I

693
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: can see the Brays winning one hundred games for this

694
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: pitching staff, and the Mets still probably will have to

695
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: scratch and claws together above ninety, we'll need things to

696
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: fall right together above ninety. So in the inverse of that,

697
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: how things go wrong for the Mets miss the playoffs,

698
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: If the Phillies go nuclear, if everyone in the Phillies

699
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 3: just kind of is the exact same guy that were

700
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: last year, that'd be very bad for the Mets. And

701
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: then if this pitching staff, if we get twenty percentile

702
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: outcomes rather than like fifty sixty seventy percentile outcomes, if

703
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: Sanga gets hurt gets hurt again, if we get twenty

704
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: twenty three David Peters instead of twenty twenty four David Peterson,

705
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: if Clayholmes can't make the switch, if Blackburid and Canning

706
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: just kind of expectedly aren't very good, If Seuan and

707
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: I and Frankie Mantas don't come back from muscle injuries

708
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: they sustain in February, which I'm terrified with that fact.

709
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: So that's kind of the inverse. And though even though

710
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: with that, I think the Mets floor is probably still

711
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: like an eighty three eighty forty five win team, So

712
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: I think we'll still worst case scenario compete for the

713
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 3: wildcard spot, but it could get a little hairy and

714
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: really get into that mud pretty quickly rather than competing

715
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: for the division.

716
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: And I wanted to get your take on the Phillies,

717
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, later in the show for our listeners. Later

718
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: in the spring, we're gonna have someone from the Phillies

719
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: Show come on and do a similar type preview. But now,

720
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: what's your take on Philadelphia? Obviously, last year they won

721
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: the division, first time since twenty seventeen a team other

722
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: than Atlanta won the Division. I mean, my take, really

723
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: a good roster. They are getting a little old though,

724
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: especially in some of those kind of most important players

725
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: on that team. But obviously there's a reason the Phillies

726
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: are top five in World Series odds and you know,

727
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: pretty even. I mean, I think Atlanta, last time I looked,

728
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: is a slight favorite to win the East, but New

729
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: York and Philly are both right there.

730
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: I think the Phillies are more so that team you

731
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: guys are describing at the top, where it's like if

732
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: this was the top fifteen players on the roster, the

733
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Phillies are special. But the Phillies bomb of the roster

734
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: gets so bad so quickly where they're going to be

735
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: relying on major at bats from guys like at Mundos,

736
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: those who actually kind of like but like, he's not

737
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 3: really the caliber of someone who could be starting out

738
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: of the champion Kennedy like, they really did a good

739
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: job in shuring up the back of that rotation when

740
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: Hazels cizarre though, because that's just an upshot guy. Now

741
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: it could be the fifth starter as supposed to Taiwan

742
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: Walker and that other who's their other guy, Tyler Phillips,

743
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: Connor Phillips, never that last name, Phillips. This guy getting

744
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: starts in the team who just gets lit on fire

745
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: every time he steps on the mound, and their bullpens.

746
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: Also it's I don't know, it's it feels to me

747
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: a little shaky. Romano him being non tendered from the

748
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: team that had him forever. It makes me think that

749
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: that elbow can explode any given moment, and Strom, Kirkering

750
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: and Alvarado, like those guys can do. But those guys

751
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: are also not as Strom last year in the regular

752
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: season was amazing. I probably have too negative of a

753
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: globe because of what we did to them, dismantling them

754
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: in the NLDS, and they their vibe right now in

755
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 3: the eyes of Mets fans, But there's still a really, really,

756
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: really good baseball team. The top of that line is ridiculous.

757
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: There's no way trade Turner. I mean this to trade

758
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: Turner College forber Bryce Harper, like that's that's special. In

759
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: terms of top three in baseball, there's still few teams

760
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: that good. But Bom never took the step. Castianos is

761
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: just he's he's become such a I don't know in

762
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: terms of wins above replaced me. He's barely beating Anthony

763
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Rendona over the last two seasons, which is all really

764
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: got to know about that. JC I think still has

765
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: on the tank then, like the Kepler's start Marsh like

766
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: that's still those are still good, starting caliber baseball players.

767
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: But you you're it gets bad quickly for this Phillies team.

768
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: I still think they're really good. I think they're probably

769
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 3: being slept on a little too much right now in

770
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: the national media. But there's there's something. There's something just

771
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: not there, something is not twisted into place for the

772
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: Phillies team in the last two three years. You get

773
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: so close, you get so many bites at the apple, Like,

774
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: how many more can you really get with the same core.

775
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think I don't really know.

776
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: This is our one joint rooting interest. By the way,

777
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: it's just against against the Phillies and Unison on this one.

778
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: So uh oh sorry Scott, this is this is unscheduled.

779
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: But uh you mentioned Castianos. I have to ask you

780
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: about this. I forgot so right now. You might have

781
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: seen this. Castiios said this winter that he thought Jose

782
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Glazier should have been the nl MVP last year. Did

783
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: you see that interview? Oh did you hear about this?

784
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: What did you make of that? Because obviously Glasis is

785
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: gone now if pole don't know that he did not

786
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: sign with the Mets, he's with the Padres. Now, obviously

787
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: that's a bit of a silly statement. I think we

788
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: all probably understand that. But uh, the loss of the

789
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Glacis and also the reaction to that CASTI.

790
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: So this is funny because I got a lot of

791
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: flak in the Mets community because I said it sounded

792
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: to me like Castianos is being tongue in cheek, like

793
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: kind of being a jerk, trying to kind of take

794
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: away from like what the Mets accomplished last year. Because

795
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: everyone around the league, even even the foul Territory guys,

796
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: that crass and Brazinski kept being like, this is a

797
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: gimmick team. This is this team is like kind of

798
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: winning on smoking mirrors. But it kind of worked for

799
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: them for what they needed, for what they had to do.

800
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: And I thought Casiano was kind of playing off that,

801
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: and I got a little defensive in Mets mode and

802
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: I was like, screw this guy. He's being a jerk.

803
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait to be him on the field again.

804
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: And all the Mets people were like, Oh, I think

805
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: he's actually being genuine. It's just talking about the value

806
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: of the Glaciers. I'm like, honestly, don't see you, guys,

807
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: but I think I think the Mets really fell in

808
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: love with the Glaciers because of first of all, when

809
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: he walked onto the field last year, every single thing

810
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: changed for this team. Like he kind of gave everything.

811
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: He kind of he was kind of wounds up being

812
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: the straw that started the drink. Between the song, between

813
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: him hitting three hundred, between having an eight to fifty

814
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: oh ps, between him playing elite defensive both second and

815
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: third base, wherever he had to go in a given day,

816
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: in a given inning, it all just worked. I'm not

817
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: that mad he's gone, because the Mets at the point

818
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: right now where they need to start letting these young

819
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: players get these reps, Like you need Louis and Helicooney

820
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: to take a step. You really want to see if

821
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: Brett Ba they could take a step, like Jet Williams

822
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: is far behind, like we have in fielders to the

823
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: point where I don't really I don't know. I don't

824
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: think I really needed Jose Glacis like clogging up that

825
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: roster spot. That would have been my opinion last year too,

826
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: and I would have been super wrong about that. So

827
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: it is funny. It's gonna be bithersweet to play against

828
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: him this year. I think a lot of Mets fans

829
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: are really going to hold onto his OMG stuff. I

830
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: know the Mets organization is probably gonna really try and

831
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: hold onto it too, But it's gonna be awkward when

832
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: he's gone. I hope, I hope that there is enough

833
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: to to mitigate the loss of Jose Glacis with Wan

834
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: So I really hope so. But sometimes he it was

835
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: really special he was able to do last year, and

836
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: I'll I'll truly never forget what Jose Lacies did to

837
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four New York Mets.

838
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very much against my DNA to ever root

839
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: for the Mets, but I did find myself cheering for Actually,

840
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: I found myself rooting for like thirty six inning ties

841
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: between the Phillies and the Mets in the NLP. Yeah,

842
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: but you know, the Braves have obviously been been victimized

843
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: by Philadelphia the last few years in the postseason, and

844
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: and I mean, the Mets are a great story even

845
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: if you know objectively, we don't they're not our favorites.

846
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys about what is the rivalry

847
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: like between you and the Phillies, because for me, it

848
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: always seems to be like you guys kind of hate

849
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: each other by proxy, where the Mets really have the

850
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: historic rivalry with both of you guys, You guys hate

851
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: each other because you're kind of around each other. You're

852
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: competing with each yeah, for each other, like we get

853
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: for both of you.

854
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: It might be this is just me, but it might

855
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: be like how old are you? Because like when I

856
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: was growing up, the Mets was the that was the

857
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: main rivalry. The Chipper Jones met stuff like that was

858
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: the key that you know as a teenager, that was

859
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: it the Phillies were just not that they were bad.

860
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: They were bad for a long time and then they

861
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: got good. And of course the team that you know,

862
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: the team that you are competing with directly, is the

863
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: team that you in that moment are probably a little

864
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Speaker 1: bit of the most mad at. And then now and then,

865
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, especially if you're a

866
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: certain age Brays fan, it's been the Phillies mostly a

867
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: couple of playoff exits recently. Of course, last year the

868
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Mets was back and forth down to the Ana Rigger season.

869
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: But I think it just kind of maybe depends on

870
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: the day, or the year or the age. I still think, honestly,

871
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: my history is I'm a little bit more Mets as

872
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: like my historic rival for the Braves. But I bet

873
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: you if you ask them one different aight, that might

874
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: say something different.

875
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what, Scott, Maybe we'll do a poll

876
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: that'd actually be like, as a Braves fan, which team

877
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: do you dislike more the Phillies are the Mets?

878
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: I would, honestly, I think Brad spun On. I think

879
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: it might be an I'm guessing to be pretty close

880
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: to fifty to fifty. I think it almost I mean,

881
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: I feel like you have to be more Mets. I

882
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: mean just thinking about that, because I'm curious about it.

883
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: Even Who would be like a third rival for you guys,

884
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: because we have like the built in third rival with

885
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: the Yankees.

886
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the Marlins. I mean

887
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Marlins or Yankees. Honestly, well it's funny, it's not really

888
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: Yankees anymore. But again my age, it was the Yankees.

889
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: We lost the Yankees three times in the World Series,

890
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: like it obviously became a thing, and I hate honestly,

891
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: if it's me personally, the Yankees are third for me.

892
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I hate the Yankees, but only because of the age

893
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: that I am and the Braves losing them in the

894
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: World Series. That's why I hate them.

895
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Here's just going wild. John Rockers just hate New York

896
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: to the core.

897
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hate in the city if you're

898
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: actually quite like the city of New York, just not

899
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: the baseball teams anyway, John Rockers style. I don't want

900
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: to be associated with John Rocker. Just for the rest

901
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going John Rocker, I know, I just want

902
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: to write it out of that. Scott anything else you

903
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: want to tack on here or get James' opinion on

904
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, look, I think he's for good

905
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: reason autimistic about the Mets. The Mets were I think, look,

906
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll admit this, the Mets were not really on my

907
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: radar last year. I was coming into the season. I

908
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: was pretty low on the Mets, and I was wrong.

909
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: They came on very strong and I have one so

910
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: do they not seeing anybody this year? But uh, anything

911
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: else you want to add, Scott, I don't know well.

912
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: And the Mets have David Stearns, which you know the

913
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: day that's.

914
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: I ran money and money by the way, David Stearns

915
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of money behind him, which is probably

916
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: a bad.

917
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: Combination for your which is awesome. Yeah, it's a dangerous, man.

918
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean again, we talked about the start, but I mean,

919
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: Philly always carries a big payroll, a ton of talent

920
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: on that team. You're absolutely right, James. The top fifteen

921
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: for Philadelphia also goes toe to.

922
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: Toe anybody in the game. But the back end we'll see.

923
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, we.

924
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 2: Would be remiss not to get your very very very

925
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: official National League East prediction here in the first week

926
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: of March, just for folks, listening at the moment. The

927
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: DraftKings has the Braves a slight favorites to win the

928
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 2: East plus one ten Phillies two fifteen Mets to forty,

929
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: which is interesting to me.

930
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: I actually think I like the Mets more than the Phillies.

931
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Fan Grafts has both the Mets and Phillies at eighty

932
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: seven wins and the Braves at ninety three wins. Frankly,

933
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 2: I might take the over on all three of those

934
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: teams if I had to, But James your official NL

935
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: East prediction that I am sure nobody will lose their

936
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: minds at Yeah, and I think.

937
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: That we can go over all three of those because

938
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: we're just gonna hopefully beat the crap out of the

939
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: Marlins every single opportunity that we could possibly get. That

940
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: that team might be worse than lest year's White Sox team.

941
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: She was crazy. Yeah, trade sandial contrac But I mean,

942
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm coming on the Brave shows. It's Mets, Braves, Phillies

943
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: that's gonna be by official prediction. I might have a

944
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: different show, or if I do an objective, do something

945
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: else objectively. But I can't come on here not believe

946
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 3: the Mets. You're going to beat the Braves this year.

947
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really feel it could go anyway. I mean

948
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: if I mean again, obviously we all have, you know,

949
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: inherent biases. We try to be objective all that stuff,

950
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, you could tell me that at the

951
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: end of September, the Braves win the division, the Mets

952
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: win the division, the Phillies win the division. All three

953
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: of those are so so so possible to me. And

954
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's pretty rare in baseball in this

955
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: modern era where you have three legitimate World Series contenders

956
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: in the same division. And I mean again, also, as

957
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: we've seen, winning the division is probably the first like

958
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: it's the goal, right, like, no matter what, you want

959
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: to win the division. But the last four or five

960
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: playoffs have shown, especially with it being expanded, that you,

961
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, winning the division you get a couple extra

962
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: days of rest and maybe an extra home gate, and

963
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: that's where the advantage ends.

964
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we know you guys hate extra days

965
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: of rest, so you guys are probably trying to avoid that.

966
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: I'll cost right.

967
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: I actually, I still to the end of the earth

968
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: will always say give me the division and the extra rest,

969
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: and like, maybe maybe you're wrong, but Uh, no, matter

970
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: how many times the Braves tend to not have that

971
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: take advantage of that, would be still on that side of.

972
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: Things, having been in the two of those three game

973
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: wildcard series, you guys are in one now. It's not fun.

974
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: I would love to win the division one. It's like

975
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: the Michael Scott choke Wow division championships. He great, would

976
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: love to be part of the one one day.

977
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you all the way, uh Scott? Anything else

978
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: you want to before we started off here?

979
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: The only thing I want to get, and it's going

980
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: to be about an hour segment, is so Brad is

981
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: a Michigan man.

982
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: You're in an Ohio state alone.

983
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll just drop off the I know that

984
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: that won't be good for anybody. Now.

985
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: I noticed it behind you, damn oh no, yeah.

986
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's right there on YouTube. People are watching.

987
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm not working. I'm not worrying Michigan shirt today. Thought

988
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: least there's that occasionally will the podcast.

989
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's okay, I don't know. It's it's pretty

990
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: cool that, like in mountain landscape of college football, that

991
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: Michigan Ohio State won the last two championships. I think

992
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: that lines up to be next year in ann Arbor.

993
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm very excited for that. Are to half of our

994
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: not Scott or half our podcast. Uh, Shawn's a Tennessee

995
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: guy and Stevens an Alabama guy, and they go head

996
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: to head a lot, so they and they're on their

997
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: own show yelling at each other sometimes.

998
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: About So it's just one of those things. We all

999
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: love college sports, and.

1000
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: I know this is a shame that they root for

1001
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: the SEC, which is now just kind of lower tier

1002
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 3: college football. It's it's a real shame.

1003
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: See now we're now we're gonna get in massive trouble,

1004
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: which is fine. James. James said that I did not

1005
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: meet with Scott for the record for my listeners.

1006
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: It's alright. It's it's kind of like minor league baseball,

1007
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: like Triple A. You're not going to be a major

1008
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: league team like y. And that'll get you guys, James

1009
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 3: Underscorciano on Twitter. Let me know how you think. But yeah,

1010
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: there it is a couple of years of proof.

1011
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: Now, Uh, well, I appreciate you. Get your generates to me.

1012
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Two comments for us with that comment at the end

1013
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: of the podcast, Uh, Scott, let's sign this thing off

1014
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: and thank James for coming on the podcast.

1015
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks James. We appreciate you taking the time.

1016
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: I am sure the Braves and Mets have a lot

1017
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: of big time battle is coming up in the next yeah,

1018
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: six months. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I think,

1019
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, having the Braves and the Mets and the Phillies,

1020
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: even if it does make for more challenging seasons, is

1021
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 2: overall good for the game.

1022
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: Big markets teams.

1023
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: With history, It's just gonna be a lot of fun.

1024
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: And I think that rivalry is just gonna be ignited

1025
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: even more this upcoming summer.

1026
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: I think, truthfully, the National Leagueese have some of the

1027
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: best rivalries in baseball. The Dodgers and the Padres and

1028
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: the Giants kind of rival at the Yankees the Red

1029
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: Sox of course, but between three teams that hate each

1030
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: other's guts and have the players in the field to

1031
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: kind of back it up and put real theater out there,

1032
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: like this is as goes as going to get in

1033
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: baseball this season. I can't wait for it.

1034
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. I appreciate you coming on. Jav

1035
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Scott does as well on our Overlords at Foul Territory,

1036
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: probably love the crossover episode here early in March. Shouts

1037
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: to those guys listening to this podcast, High Scott, I, Mark,

1038
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: et cetera. But thanks for being here, James wickly appreciate

1039
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: people should be listening to Mess Up. Now they'll be

1040
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: hate listening if you're Braves fans, but we start. Yeah,

1041
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: it's fun hate people. I'm sure hate listen to us is.

1042
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: It's just part of the deal.

1043
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: This is.

1044
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: We're all one big habit family here. I have some

1045
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: hate listens that I will not name on the podcast

1046
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: of other sports things that I listen to that I

1047
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: don't like listening to, but just kind of have to

1048
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: do it sometimes. So there you go.

1049
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: We do. We do get legitimate Braids hate listeners. So

1050
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: if you guys want to come with that mess fans like,

1051
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: we do have a bunch of you guys that will

1052
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: be in our YouTube comments, especially because O my co

1053
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: host Draft deck Mark big Braids hater, big YouTube channel.

1054
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: So the Braids hate are alive. There you go. Well,

1055
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: thank you, James.

1056
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: Please subscribe to Mess Up and also of course subscribe

1057
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: to Hammer Territory anywhere you find your podcast. Faul Scott

1058
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: following me follow the show et cetera, and we'll see

1059
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: everybody next time.