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Speaker 3: What's up with up? Ladies and gentlemen. This is Quest
Speaker 3: Love Supreme. I'm your host Quest Love with Me Team Supreme. Like, yeah, hello,
Speaker 3: how are you?
Speaker 4: I am well excited.
Speaker 2: Frank, I know right, long time coming, long time coming.
Speaker 2: What's you up to? What's what's going on out there?
Speaker 4: Right now? It is not raining, So that's a good thing,
Speaker 4: and that's good.
Speaker 3: It's been raining since. I mean I was there for
Speaker 3: the noest flood of Grammy Knight. It's still been raining since.
Speaker 5: I guess, so I wasn't. I left and went to
Speaker 5: Brazils on Grammy Night. But I heard it has been
Speaker 5: You heard that Flaws you gotta you gotta drop it.
Speaker 4: I went to Salvador. I have a solid door.
Speaker 2: So you know you went to Brazil for carnival.
Speaker 4: For the best carnival? Yes, yes, flex is that? Yeah?
Speaker 6: What once year?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Give me your forty five second report?
Speaker 4: I mean Salvador.
Speaker 5: If anybody doesn't know about Salvador, Brazil is beautifully black.
Speaker 5: It's the second largest black populated place outside of the continent,
Speaker 5: so it has all the flavor in all of the
Speaker 5: ways and.
Speaker 4: Just a lot. It was just beautiful.
Speaker 5: It was beautiful and fun and the food takes that
Speaker 5: better there. Yeah, they say, just for you. So you
Speaker 5: know the three different cities. You party in Rio and
Speaker 5: the people in South Paolo work, so the people in
Speaker 5: Rio can party.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, the black folks are in Salvador.
Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't go to Rio or the other spots.
Speaker 4: No, I was where you really want to be.
Speaker 5: Literally, Amir, Salvador is the best place to go for carnival.
Speaker 4: I said, it's where the black people are.
Speaker 6: Who started it?
Speaker 2: Oh, hey, I didn't know. I'm a product of the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia High School public curriculum.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but you're a world traveler.
Speaker 2: I know. I just go to my hotel, eat my.
Speaker 4: Iron We got them all. I would love to take
Speaker 4: all your salad.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you gotta let us know next time you're going.
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 2: We got to go there to do the Author Vericai episode.
Speaker 2: That's the Author Verkai. Yes, the Author Verica episode.
Speaker 6: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: By the way, how you know I didn't get the
Speaker 3: peap heids coyotes collaborative album with him.
Speaker 2: Is it? Have you heard it or haven't listened yet?
Speaker 7: I haven't listened yet either.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up, Steve, what's going on? How's life great?
Speaker 8: I'm currently imagining a vacation with La to Salvador. I
Speaker 8: need it real bad. Everything's great, looking forward to this interview.
Speaker 3: Here here's the dumb question, Steve. I got to ask
Speaker 3: you a work question. Who's on the show today?
Speaker 8: Jennifer Lopez and uh Alan Richson and Gary Clark Jr.
Speaker 2: But we had a great musical guest yesterday. Who Brittany Howard? Oh?
Speaker 3: I was okay. I was not at work yesterday. You
Speaker 3: can't get mad at me, Brittany. I was not at
Speaker 3: work yesterday. I had to take a day off. Things
Speaker 3: were happening. Uh Fan Tickeola. What's what's good man?
Speaker 7: I'm good, Man, I'm good. I'm excited to have Brittany
Speaker 7: here today.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 7: I can't wait to talk about this new album.
Speaker 4: Is hard Hard, got me sweating already.
Speaker 3: Wait are you in California, Bill Sherman, No, I'm in
Speaker 3: New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you're usually in the basement. So I
Speaker 2: was thrown.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I yeah, I'm not in Black Brazil. I
Speaker 10: have a house in New Jersey and this is what
Speaker 10: it looks like from the kitchen.
Speaker 2: I see, all right, that's that's what's up.
Speaker 5: We got to teach Bill about light. You're supposed to
Speaker 5: be in front of you.
Speaker 10: I like being the shadows.
Speaker 3: Bill's flexing of his windows structure actually made me think
Speaker 3: he was on vacation somewhere, so I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: was just Jersey ladies and gentlemen. Our guest today as
Speaker 3: well as everyone said pretty much, we've been waiting a
Speaker 3: long time for this one, and it's finally happened. She
Speaker 3: is a five time Grammy Award winner and she basically
Speaker 3: pours her entire life experience into her songwriting, her music,
Speaker 3: her production, and you know, she's just a starra within
Speaker 3: Ah at the end of the word star. She's practically
Speaker 3: worked with everyone named it, from Prince to Verrtine White
Speaker 3: to Lemonoel, Miranda John Legend. The list goes completely on
Speaker 3: and on and on. She has formed several successful bands,
Speaker 3: including one of my favorite Alabama Shakes. Not to mention
Speaker 3: she's here today to talk about her journey through life,
Speaker 3: her journey through love and music and we're celebrating the
Speaker 3: release of her sophomore album entitled What Now and Welcome
Speaker 3: Brittany Howard.
Speaker 2: Two quest lefsupre yes.
Speaker 4: Sir us for having me, how to do crystal bowls
Speaker 4: and Long.
Speaker 6: Last, Long Last. Hey, everybody, good to be here.
Speaker 2: At Long Last.
Speaker 6: Where are you right now, britt I'm in the city.
Speaker 6: I'm looking out the window Lower East Side.
Speaker 3: Obviously you're you're on the promotional run or you on
Speaker 3: a an actual tour for your album.
Speaker 6: I'm doing both at the same time. I'm on the
Speaker 6: promo run, I'm doing tour. Yeah, that's what we'm I
Speaker 6: here doing.
Speaker 3: As Fante said, congratulations on the record, Like it's it's
Speaker 3: really awesome to hear your artistic growth and and you know,
Speaker 3: just the risk that you're taking the album is incredible,
Speaker 3: and you know all the atholatues that you're getting on it.
Speaker 3: Congratulations are are in order. We we love this record.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to personally thank you for to be
Speaker 7: still like and like, thank you for that record. It
Speaker 7: is beautiful.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a level envy I have when a person
Speaker 3: releases a new record, maybe because I'm constipated ten years
Speaker 3: and holding my own record hostitch. That was like everyone like,
Speaker 3: you know, Gary Clark's records coming out, Fritz Records coming out,
Speaker 3: We just had Kareem Bailey Ray, Like all these albums
Speaker 3: are coming out and I'm like still holding my join hostage,
Speaker 3: and like, so, what is the feeling you feel when
Speaker 3: it's when it's over and you know it's ready?
Speaker 6: What do you mean like when it comes out? How's
Speaker 6: that foot?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, when you're done, Because for me, like albums
Speaker 3: are almost like your kids, I hold this close to
Speaker 3: the chest. I don't play demos for people. I don't say, hey,
Speaker 3: you want to hear a bit of that, Like I'm
Speaker 3: so anxious feel on letting it go. And then there's
Speaker 3: a point where like whenever I always master a record,
Speaker 3: maybe be like two weeks before it's really supposed to
Speaker 3: be turned in because I almost have to have a
Speaker 3: morning process.
Speaker 2: In literally letting your kids go.
Speaker 3: And I want to know, do you go through that
Speaker 3: or is this just like, hey, here are my twelve
Speaker 3: thirteen songs and I'm ready.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 6: But for me, it's kind of the opposite I'm like,
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get this out in the world,
Speaker 6: because you know how it isn't in this business. You
Speaker 6: have to do the whole album cycle. You do the touring,
Speaker 6: and you have to do the promo, and you do
Speaker 6: all of this for this album. And it's like, as
Speaker 6: soon as I finish the album, I can't wait to
Speaker 6: get it out. It's like a just station process and
Speaker 6: what I imagine a very pregnant woman feels like it's
Speaker 6: like I'm ready for this thing to get out of me,
Speaker 6: you know it, so I can move on with my life.
Speaker 6: And it's kind of what it's like. I'm very proud
Speaker 6: of this project, but I'm also very excited to start
Speaker 6: a new one as well.
Speaker 5: Already.
Speaker 3: Are you a song cycle person or you an album
Speaker 3: cycle person? Like do you just write enough songs for
Speaker 3: the album to come or is it even as the
Speaker 3: album is done, you already have songs in mustache or
Speaker 3: still writing, like.
Speaker 6: There's still something on the cutting room floor. I think
Speaker 6: I still have like six or seven that didn't make
Speaker 6: the album, and it was it was just because it
Speaker 6: was taken too long. Like I was like, all right,
Speaker 6: I got enough here. I don't really want to spend
Speaker 6: any more energy working these out. I'll do this later.
Speaker 6: And I'm definitely like an album cycle person like, as
Speaker 6: soon as it feels like it, it has the feel done.
Speaker 6: It has to feel cooked. And I feel like once
Speaker 6: I have that feeling, it's just like an intuition thing,
Speaker 6: then I'm like, Okay, hear this, this is it. Now
Speaker 6: let's do the sequence.
Speaker 7: Oh what was the period of time between knowing when
Speaker 7: it was done, like just knowing like that feeling you
Speaker 7: were talking about of like, Okay, I feel like this
Speaker 7: is complete, it's cooked. The time between that and it
Speaker 7: actually coming out out and being released.
Speaker 6: Sure, this time it was like ten months. Oh wow,
Speaker 6: that's a long long y yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well
Speaker 6: like post pandemic, things are still just taking a long
Speaker 6: time to create because we like final we liked the
Speaker 6: objects when listening to music, takes a long time to
Speaker 6: print those things. Everything's just slower. So it took a
Speaker 6: long time to get the whole shebang ready.
Speaker 5: Really, if this was like a meal, then how long
Speaker 5: was your meal prep and what was the preparation for
Speaker 5: this album? In a sense that this this album is
Speaker 5: going to say this, do you even do all of
Speaker 5: that in your head.
Speaker 6: No, I don't even think about that. It was just
Speaker 6: I started this in March of twenty twenty, so that's
Speaker 6: pretty much like shut down. And I didn't realize I
Speaker 6: was making an album. I was just going and just
Speaker 6: make like songs for fun because the world was terrifying
Speaker 6: and we were all scared. So there's really nowhere it
Speaker 6: turned to. So it's just like I used music as
Speaker 6: my outlet once again. And when I was making this
Speaker 6: album back in twenty twenty, I didn't know I was
Speaker 6: making it. I was just like, it's a journal entries,
Speaker 6: you know, And I told myself, I'm just going there
Speaker 6: no matter what happens. It's okay, doesn't matter what it
Speaker 6: sounds like, doesn't matter the quality of it. It's just
Speaker 6: something to do. And so it's been cooking for such
Speaker 6: a long time. The meal prep has been insane. I
Speaker 6: had walked into the kitchen, cut vegetables, walked back out.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, how close to March thirteenth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty did you start the record.
Speaker 6: So I had just finished a London tour, I guess
Speaker 6: the UK tour flew from London, got to New York
Speaker 6: City and we had a fallon lined up, and we
Speaker 6: had different shows lined up we're going to do, and
Speaker 6: I was just looking at the state of things. I
Speaker 6: was like, I don't think, no, this is going to happen.
Speaker 6: So I actually flew home, what like on the twelfth
Speaker 6: or the thirteenth, like I got to Nashville and then
Speaker 6: things shut down, and I feel like I feel like
Speaker 6: I started tinkering with things maybe like a month later.
Speaker 6: I just know, like I finished Tiger King. As soon
Speaker 6: as I finished Tiger King around stuff to do, I
Speaker 6: guess I'll go make music because I'm a musician.
Speaker 7: What did you think of Joe exotic songs in Tiger King?
Speaker 7: Oh shit, I thought.
Speaker 6: That listen, But it wasn't even him right, It wasn't,
Speaker 6: which makes it Richard. He just wanted to act it out.
Speaker 6: What do I think about the songs honestly as a
Speaker 6: body of work. As a body of work, I'm go
Speaker 6: ahead and give it a six.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: A lot of these albums that I'm hearing sort of
Speaker 3: got their genesis or they're beginning in twenty twenty and
Speaker 3: they're just coming out now like four years later. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's a coincidence that for a lot of us,
Speaker 3: a lot of our art that we started creating in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty in sort of the midst of pannicing the
Speaker 3: Apocalypse air quotes the Apocalypse.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a coincidence. So I guess I'll
Speaker 2: ask you.
Speaker 3: How hard was it or what was your relationship to
Speaker 3: creativity in the apocalypse, you know, because like people are
Speaker 3: dying in real time, family members are getting sick in
Speaker 3: real time, and like all these things are happening. But
Speaker 3: for you, like, were you like foxinging or like and
Speaker 3: I mean like more like July August when we don't
Speaker 3: know if we're coming or going.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean my relationship activity was definitely difficult. During
Speaker 6: that time. I was seeing like friends, especially on Instagram,
Speaker 6: just like having output output output output, and I couldn't
Speaker 6: believe it. I was like the last you know, kind
Speaker 6: of where I was, Like I said, I was going
Speaker 6: in and out of making little songs. And when I
Speaker 6: say little songs, I mean they're like thirty seconds. They're
Speaker 6: just little ideas. And I pushed myself to do that,
Speaker 6: but honestly, it was like doing anything creative was a
Speaker 6: survival mechanism for me, couldn't go anywhere, I couldn't see
Speaker 6: my friends, was always concerned about getting sick, was concerned
Speaker 6: what was going to happen next, because not only didn't
Speaker 6: we have the pandemic, but back in Nashville, we had
Speaker 6: just had a tornado that had kind of devastated the
Speaker 6: area where I was living. Oh, And it was like
Speaker 6: one thing after the other, and a lot of people
Speaker 6: like they didn't have roofs on their house, so people
Speaker 6: trying to help each other out at the same time.
Speaker 6: It's an extremely stressful kind of like position to be in.
Speaker 6: So to me, the creativity was my lifeline to any
Speaker 6: normalcy whatsoever. And it wasn't like I needed to have output,
Speaker 6: and it wasn't like I needed to make anything great.
Speaker 6: It was just I just needed to have any type
Speaker 6: of like control at all.
Speaker 3: Really, another commonality in the pandemic was a pivot. Did
Speaker 3: you discover another talent that you had in the pandemic? Uh,
Speaker 3: that you didn't realize you had?
Speaker 6: Man, I think you know, listen, I kind of rediscovered
Speaker 6: my love for fishing. Me and my dad used to fish.
Speaker 6: I was a little girl, and during that time, because
Speaker 6: I lived I lived in the country I could just
Speaker 6: go by myself and go fishing, and I kind of
Speaker 6: I kind of got good at that. I guess if
Speaker 6: you can if you can say you can get good
Speaker 6: at fishing, yeah, got good at standing there, and.
Speaker 4: She's got good patience. That's what that means, and a
Speaker 4: good fishing.
Speaker 2: Oh, Libra, Okay, Libra. Yeah, October October.
Speaker 6: Second.
Speaker 2: See, I was going, oh god, you're October.
Speaker 4: Uh, just like everybody you know, Wait a second.
Speaker 3: We can't be friends. I'm sorry, there's no room in
Speaker 3: the end. My life is sort of a arted with everyone.
Speaker 3: That's a result of post Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4: Good math.
Speaker 9: I you looked into that h every man drunk in
Speaker 9: the year's Valentine's Day early literally last of September, early October.
Speaker 2: Where were you born?
Speaker 6: I was born in Huntsville Hospital. That's Huntsville, Alabama. I
Speaker 6: was raised in Athens, Alabama.
Speaker 2: What's that town like?
Speaker 6: It's changed a lot now, but back on those littles,
Speaker 6: lots of fields, cows, pastures. It's pretty flat where I live.
Speaker 6: It's got tornadoes, lots of country people. We had good
Speaker 6: diversity though, good diversities, lots of rich people, poor people,
Speaker 6: black folks, white, folks, Mexican folks, all the folks.
Speaker 2: You grew up on a farm or like a city escape.
Speaker 3: I'm asking this because I have ties to Alabama, so
Speaker 3: I'm trying to learn other parts of You.
Speaker 6: Mentioned that to me before. Yeah, but where I'm from
Speaker 6: is rural. It's pretty rural. I live way back off
Speaker 6: the road in the woods, and I grew up like
Speaker 6: kind of like in a farm setting. But also my father,
Speaker 6: my father was he's a tow truck driver, and he
Speaker 6: had a junk yard, so I kind of grew up
Speaker 6: like amongst junk, like a junk yard aesthetic, and also
Speaker 6: had like this beautiful animals running around.
Speaker 2: So were you a learner or you know, did you
Speaker 2: have a community of friends or.
Speaker 6: So I just played with like there was like little boys,
Speaker 6: like the neighborhood little boys, because I lived way back
Speaker 6: in the country off the road, so they would literally
Speaker 6: just drive their little tractors down to my house and
Speaker 6: we would just play in the creek and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: Like it was like country country.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 4: Is it just me?
Speaker 5: I just had this conversation with somebody the other day.
Speaker 5: You just made me think of this tomboys. That's not
Speaker 5: a term that's used anymore.
Speaker 6: But than it was it was.
Speaker 4: I was a tomboy.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but I don't even know it's politically
Speaker 5: correct anymore.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I haven't thought about it a long time. I don't know.
Speaker 6: But I definitely was one of those, you know, and
Speaker 6: like my you know, it's interesting like my upbringing, Like
Speaker 6: my dad. You know, he's a car salesman and he did,
Speaker 6: you know, the toe jobs and stuff like that, so
Speaker 6: he knew everybody in the community. So he would always
Speaker 6: do like what we call horse trading, which is just
Speaker 6: when you trade this for that. And I remember one
Speaker 6: time he brought me home a pony, and I remember
Speaker 6: being so excited about this pony. I was I only
Speaker 6: girl on the street that had a little pony. And
Speaker 6: the pony wasn't right in the head. So the pony
Speaker 6: would like try to attack us and chase us and
Speaker 6: bite us. It was eating meat. It was eating what
Speaker 6: he was eating meats, It was eating birds.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, not your dream, my little pony.
Speaker 6: No, it was not a dream. But all the kids
Speaker 6: would come down and kind of check out the pony,
Speaker 6: you know. Yeah, So that was my claim to family.
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to ask you around the dumb questions
Speaker 3: that I never asked a person that was anything close
Speaker 3: to equestrian life, because I don't know that many people
Speaker 3: that have owned horses or ponies or any of those things.
Speaker 3: And I hear this all the time, where like one
Speaker 3: day I came home and my dad surprised me with
Speaker 3: and usually a pony.
Speaker 2: What is the.
Speaker 3: General like maintenance of owning one of those things?
Speaker 2: Like I have a farm, now do I plan on owning?
Speaker 3: And my farm actually comes with I have like a
Speaker 3: barnyard that's a stable that can hold six of them
Speaker 3: if I chose to own them right now?
Speaker 2: It's for storage. But what's what's the daily care routine
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 6: The daily I mean honestly, like when it comes to
Speaker 6: upkeep for a horse you're talking about, you gotta have
Speaker 6: your like regular vet visits. You gotta keep up with
Speaker 6: the vitamins.
Speaker 2: Definitely, they take vitamins.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it goes in the feed.
Speaker 4: We all need nutrition.
Speaker 2: You knew this.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm nturprised.
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not looking at questrian person, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't think I know either when he said, but.
Speaker 6: I remember what we used to do. You gotta take
Speaker 6: care of hooks, You gotta take your care to coat.
Speaker 6: When it's cold outside, you got to make sure that
Speaker 6: everything's right for them. It's hot outside, you got to
Speaker 6: make sure everything's right for them. Like I just did
Speaker 6: a pretty high maintenance really, And they're also expensive, expensive creatures.
Speaker 5: That you gotta buy it a trailer, a mere like,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna take it to the bet.
Speaker 4: You gotta take it to the bet.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just never understood like the casualness of friends
Speaker 3: of mine's, like, yeah, I brought my kid a horse
Speaker 3: or whatever, but you know, I have anxiety trying to
Speaker 3: consider should I get.
Speaker 2: A dog or not, let alone.
Speaker 10: Very different things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I start with a dog, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm not even starting with it because I traveled too much.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just generally wanted to know. And
Speaker 3: the neighbors that I have on both sides of the
Speaker 3: house they have horses. I go up and pet it,
Speaker 3: and part of me thinks, like, oh, it's not that bad.
Speaker 3: But I know that there's some real ship that I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 5: So and Brittany ain't say if she kept the pony
Speaker 5: until it turned into a horse, did you did you.
Speaker 2: That's the part I wanted to do at the point
Speaker 2: works that's two different. Well, I did not know that.
Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that ponies were puppies to horses.
Speaker 6: No, they their own thing, their own thing. Ponies do
Speaker 6: not turn into worses.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait what they.
Speaker 6: Do not turn into horses? Ponies is his own thing.
Speaker 2: And they stay that size.
Speaker 6: They stay that size. Yeah they say that size, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and they're kind of mean, to be honest with you.
Speaker 6: Ponies are not super nice.
Speaker 2: Really attitudes.
Speaker 6: All the ponies I met have attitudes.
Speaker 5: Even the Shetland ones like real cutely, this is about
Speaker 5: our enemy advertising.
Speaker 7: National Geographic Request, Love Supreme and Brittany.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, dude, this this platform is more for me
Speaker 3: to learn shit, more than their records already mentioned the record.
Speaker 3: I want to learn about this shit. How long did
Speaker 3: you keep the pony before it was like okay, no more?
Speaker 6: Not long a trade, you know, we kind of traded things.
Speaker 2: Up so like and that's just common, that's.
Speaker 6: Common around where I'm from. Yet, and so we had
Speaker 6: traded like we had a quarter horse at first, and
Speaker 6: then we traded the the quarter horse is like it's
Speaker 6: like twenty five years old, so like, I couldn't do
Speaker 6: anything with it, so we traded it for the pony.
Speaker 6: And the whole reason we got the pony because the
Speaker 6: pony was meaning to bite you. So that traded the
Speaker 6: pony for a gokart and then we were cool from
Speaker 6: then on, No more horse. It's a good trade. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And what's this level of trading called again?
Speaker 6: This is called horse trading?
Speaker 10: Horse trading?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the term I never heard before.
Speaker 3: So is it a thing where like once a month
Speaker 3: you take what you want to trade to a place
Speaker 3: and you trade it or you just go to your
Speaker 3: neighbor and be like, yo, what you want for this?
Speaker 6: It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 6: It's like I've been noticing that you have this in
Speaker 6: your yard is a run. So I's like, well I
Speaker 6: could run, I just ain't took it in. It's like, well,
Speaker 6: I got this, I'll trade you this for that, and
Speaker 6: then it's your job getting running. And then you take
Speaker 6: that thing that now runs and trade it for something
Speaker 6: else that you want. You know, you just trade up.
Speaker 2: I got it. Now. Can you tell me what your
Speaker 2: first musical memory was?
Speaker 6: Oh? Man. First musical memory. My grandmother had like one
Speaker 6: of those big consoles that has like the eight track
Speaker 6: player and the record player and the speakers built in.
Speaker 6: And I remember being really young, maybe four, and messing
Speaker 6: around with all the vinyl yes and pulling out some
Speaker 6: of the albums and had them all on the floor,
Speaker 6: and my Grandma's like, what you're doing, you know, like
Speaker 6: don't break them and all this, and I remember her
Speaker 6: putting on the Thriller out them. But I remember hearing
Speaker 6: I remember hearing the speakers because it's like a tube system.
Speaker 6: Remember them warm up, and then I could hear, you know,
Speaker 6: songs of Thriller coming out of the speakers, and being like,
Speaker 6: what the hell is this? You know, kind of kind
Speaker 6: of amazed in the name of by the whole thing,
Speaker 6: not just the music, but just all of it, you know,
Speaker 6: the warmth of it coming on?
Speaker 3: Was that your kind of I don't mean come to
Speaker 3: Jesus moment, but for you, was that like the moment
Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, well I want to also express
Speaker 3: myself in this way through music or.
Speaker 6: Nah, so no, not really, I mean I had that
Speaker 6: kind of moment when I was eleven. I was in
Speaker 6: middle school and in my middle school. I don't know
Speaker 6: what if a grade eleven is fifth or sixth grade.
Speaker 6: And there was a band from our school that had
Speaker 6: rented out our gym and they were gonna put on
Speaker 6: a show. And I remember all throughout the day everybody
Speaker 6: was asking, are you gonna go to the show? You're
Speaker 6: gonna go to the show? I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: I'll see if I can get there. And so I
Speaker 6: get to the gym and I'm by myself. I remember
Speaker 6: being like super anxious because I don't really know anybody
Speaker 6: at well. And the band plays and amusing them play
Speaker 6: on stage and kids I went to school with. It
Speaker 6: was like I didn't know these kids could do this.
Speaker 6: There were so talented. Look at the effects there having
Speaker 6: on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew,
Speaker 6: and it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen.
Speaker 6: And it was in that moment standing in the gym
Speaker 6: that I knew I wanted to be in a band,
Speaker 6: and I wanted to make my own music and I
Speaker 6: wanted to be up there like they were, like. I
Speaker 6: think that was a come to Jesus moment for me.
Speaker 3: Okay, how long before you found other people that sort
Speaker 3: of had a common love for music, Like was music
Speaker 3: something that you kept close to the chest, or like how.
Speaker 2: Big was the music community down there?
Speaker 6: It was a it was it was so small. I
Speaker 6: had to teach people how to play music to be
Speaker 6: in a band.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: So I would go teach myself the instruments, and then
Speaker 6: I would go back to school and I would just
Speaker 6: try to find a kid with some sort of musical
Speaker 6: talent like rhythm, and I'd be like, Okay, hey, do
Speaker 6: you want to learn how to play bass guitar? Like
Speaker 6: do you want learn how to play drums? And I
Speaker 6: I would tutor them and see if that get to
Speaker 6: a pointment where we could make music together. Some yes,
Speaker 6: but a lot no, Like it just didn't happen. I
Speaker 6: was trying to make it happen. And it wasn't until
Speaker 6: I was probably like sixteen years old that I finally
Speaker 6: met some kids who also were interested in making music.
Speaker 6: And that was Zach Zach Copple Bassis for Alabama Shakes.
Speaker 6: And then he's Fogg who became a guitar player. And
Speaker 6: it was them. So this whole thing really started from my.
Speaker 2: School was guitar.
Speaker 3: Your very first instrument of choice or did play other
Speaker 3: instruments as well.
Speaker 6: My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano, and
Speaker 6: then drum a drummer heart and then basically yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: a lot of my yeah, a lot of the drums
Speaker 6: on my new record. I programmed those drums. I'm not
Speaker 6: saying I could play them like that, but I can
Speaker 6: hear it, you know, and uh yeah. Then I learned bass,
Speaker 6: and then I only learned guitar because I had to.
Speaker 6: I didn't really want to play guitar, really, no, I
Speaker 6: want to be in the rhythm section. I just one.
Speaker 6: I want to play bass.
Speaker 4: What is the gap though?
Speaker 5: Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to
Speaker 5: do this and you teaching folks that the music, Like,
Speaker 5: how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet,
Speaker 5: you just yeah.
Speaker 6: So at firstly I didn't have those instruments like drums.
Speaker 6: I could have access to drums because there were a
Speaker 6: set of drums at our school, so I could go
Speaker 6: play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar,
Speaker 6: I would just borrow one from one of the rich kids, because, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was about school, Well, all
Speaker 6: the rich kids had a bass guitar. Let me borrow it,
Speaker 6: you know, and let me borrow it. And so I
Speaker 6: taught myself how to do that. And the guitar. My
Speaker 6: sister had a guitar like tucked away back in the closets,
Speaker 6: like one of those jcpenny guitars that looks like a
Speaker 6: less Paul and it's like it's like one hundred and
Speaker 6: fifty pounds. And that's what I learned on was that guitar.
Speaker 6: So I was teaching myself.
Speaker 4: How long did it take?
Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't mastered any of those instruments, right.
Speaker 4: That's what we're doing.
Speaker 6: Okay, no, no, no, no, no no. Honestly, I was just
Speaker 6: learning as I went. So if I picked something up,
Speaker 6: I would make something with it. I would just learn
Speaker 6: as I went. So from from the very beginning, I
Speaker 6: wanted to make my own music. That was like the
Speaker 6: whole goal. That was like the whole purpose. But when
Speaker 6: I was originally learning, I had to learn other people's songs.
Speaker 6: So I just started with stuff that was easy, like
Speaker 6: like Blink on a two, and I was like kind
Speaker 6: of things like that that are pretty easy power chord stuff,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you, am I the only one
Speaker 2: that goes through this.
Speaker 3: Like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood, you're
Speaker 3: thinking about your childhood too, but then you realize that
Speaker 3: their childhood is actually your adulthood like childhood, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute. I was thirty three years old when
Speaker 3: that came.
Speaker 2: Out, like.
Speaker 6: Pretty, don't do the math, don't do the math.
Speaker 2: Don't do it.
Speaker 4: Don't do it.
Speaker 6: It hurts.
Speaker 2: I give my feelings hurt.
Speaker 3: I guess when we first played together was at the
Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and we
Speaker 3: were doing a tribute for Big Mama Thornton. In your childhood,
Speaker 3: was there did anyone ever put you onto her? Or
Speaker 3: was it like later in life when you discovered her.
Speaker 3: I'm for a so called music historian. I you know,
Speaker 3: I admit, and I'm ashamed of myth that. I was
Speaker 3: probably in my mid forties before someone explained to me
Speaker 3: who Big Mama Thornton was, even though like I've heard
Speaker 3: hound Dog and all that stuff all my life, but.
Speaker 6: I remember doing his sister. Was that a tharp?
Speaker 2: Though? Oh my god, you know what you want to
Speaker 2: edit that? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, quest love makes mistakes. Yes, I had a brain fart.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: He was a historian questlove.
Speaker 2: To know things. I'm sorry. I meant Sister Rose at
Speaker 2: a thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you at all familiar with her in your
Speaker 3: childhood or did that come to you later in life.
Speaker 6: It definitely came to me later in life, maybe mid twenties.
Speaker 6: Mid twenties is when I started getting curious about these
Speaker 6: women blues players, right, And then I had started hearing about, well,
Speaker 6: there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and
Speaker 6: inspired of us Presley and had the electric guitar. And
Speaker 6: someone told me about it because I played an SG
Speaker 6: and they're like, oh, just like Sister was at a tharpe,
Speaker 6: she also put a SG. She put an SG custom
Speaker 6: in white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard
Speaker 6: of her. So I started looking into her stuff and
Speaker 6: I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the
Speaker 6: guitar is so was unique. It's it's her voice on
Speaker 6: that guitar. Nobody else is doing it. It's crazy, it's
Speaker 6: actually hard, it's hard to play how she's playing. And
Speaker 6: so that's when I kind of started diving into her
Speaker 6: stuff and in her story, which her story is really
Speaker 6: interesting as well.
Speaker 3: In your childhood or in your teens. Who was your
Speaker 3: north star by that point as far as like singing
Speaker 3: was concerned, as far as like who's just like your
Speaker 3: go to artists that you loved.
Speaker 6: In my teens, it was David Bowie. Wow. Yeah, because
Speaker 6: it was like the Hole aesthetic and the songwriting was
Speaker 6: like it had like a lot of different mixtures in it,
Speaker 6: which I really liked. It had like some some show
Speaker 6: tunes to it as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like I can hear his inspirations being like from Broadway,
Speaker 6: and then like also he was taking things like from
Speaker 6: kabuki theater, and he was borrowing rhythms from R and
Speaker 6: B and he was doing jazzy things, and it was
Speaker 6: just fascinating to me. And I liked his voice. I
Speaker 6: thought it was really interesting how I used his voice too.
Speaker 6: He wasn't trying to be like a professional singer, technical singer.
Speaker 6: It was just he was just like giving like he
Speaker 6: was giving vignettes. He's giving like small scenes from a
Speaker 6: movie or something every song. I thought that was cool.
Speaker 6: So I became obsessed with it, Okay, obsessed to what levels.
Speaker 6: I had everything I had, everything he had ever done.
Speaker 4: You have Labyrinth yes, I was about I love it.
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, I was like, okay, what era of boy
Speaker 7: is this?
Speaker 4: Early?
Speaker 7: Is this eighty four?
Speaker 5: Literally?
Speaker 6: Oh, I was listening to like ten Man, I was
Speaker 6: listening to all of it. I didn't like it. I
Speaker 6: listened to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was yeah, you know, it's weird, all right.
Speaker 3: So I worked in a record store eighty eight eighty
Speaker 3: nine when the first tim in the album came out,
Speaker 3: and okay, so we traded in the record store for
Speaker 3: the Internet. But if you hang out in a record
Speaker 3: store long enough, you're going to meet two or three
Speaker 3: know it all snobs that have their like unsolicited opinions
Speaker 3: on stuff and suddening their opinions become your opinions. And
Speaker 3: working in that record store and like think of Jack
Speaker 3: Black's character and uh yeah yeah, Like I had like
Speaker 3: two of those guys, and you know, we had to
Speaker 3: put the ten Men display up and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and they were just like, ah, man, this shit sucks.
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, everyone wants you to go
Speaker 3: back to when you know, your first seven years, when
Speaker 3: you're blowing everyone's mind and when it was just your
Speaker 3: secret before the world had you. And it's so weird
Speaker 3: because I'm working on this doc right now, and Timmin's performance,
Speaker 3: I will say that if you really give and if
Speaker 3: you can find any of their performances online. And I
Speaker 3: don't know how much they did. I know they did
Speaker 3: a few promotional shows and whatnot, but I would almost
Speaker 3: say that tim Men was almost like a precursor to grunge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, if I can borrow from gen Z, it was.
Speaker 3: It was giving, it was given Soundgarden, it was giving
Speaker 3: alls and chains, it was borderline. It was somewhere between
Speaker 3: like early Smashing Pumpkins. And I know when we say grunge,
Speaker 3: you just automatically, non grunge hits will just think like,
Speaker 3: oh smells like teen spirit, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, like I realized that Oh Bowie's
Speaker 3: fan base had the younger generation after the same thing
Speaker 3: with Prince. If you remember that Prince got booed at
Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones opening for the Rolling Stones back in
Speaker 3: eighty one, Like baby boomers were not Prince's audience. Prince
Speaker 3: was the older brother of gen X, So you know,
Speaker 3: some three or four years later that audience is going
Speaker 3: to grasp the print and yeah, it's it's weird that
Speaker 3: even I would say that all Bowie fans should probably
Speaker 3: revisit ten Man, or at least try to find them
Speaker 3: in concert. It was actually awesome, Like if you're a
Speaker 3: fan of grunge, I would say that they're the percursive
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: So, but that's my opinion anyone else besides Bowie.
Speaker 6: Let's see started off pretty hard with David Bowie, and
Speaker 6: then I found out about Pink Floyd. I hadn't heard
Speaker 6: Pink Floyd before. I remember being like, oh, it's like fifteen,
Speaker 6: riding in the back of my friend's car and she
Speaker 6: starts playing it was the Dark Side of the Side
Speaker 6: of the Moon. Yeah, yeah, And I was like, what
Speaker 6: the hell is this? This is this is so many
Speaker 6: different types of music. This is like jazz, this is
Speaker 6: like I never heard any type of music like it.
Speaker 6: I remember hearing it in the back of a buckless sound.
Speaker 6: I remember hearing hearing it, and I remember getting so
Speaker 6: excited because I didn't know you could do music like
Speaker 6: I didn't know you could take everything like that mix.
Speaker 2: It together without psychedelics.
Speaker 6: No psychadelics. I just I'm just getting ride home from school.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's what's said. Have you have you ever
Speaker 2: done the Wizard of Oz test to it.
Speaker 6: No, I've never done that.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about it?
Speaker 6: I've heard about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up until maybe the end of Money.
Speaker 2: It literally it really does if it's perfect, is.
Speaker 4: The Wizard of is it?
Speaker 2: I thought it was pulled the Wall and not Dark.
Speaker 3: Nah, A dark said on the third line where you're
Speaker 3: supposed to start. You're supposed to start the record on
Speaker 3: the third line, roar of MGM. And literally it plays
Speaker 3: perfectly even when it turns into color.
Speaker 2: That's when the.
Speaker 3: Bells Money starts money and they start doing the dance
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And then towards the end it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: now he definitely did it up until money, I'll say
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched The Wall?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I first saw The Wall in the like The
Speaker 3: Wall was the first pandemic film that I watched before
Speaker 3: I started obsessing over Fantasia. And I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: I it's almost like we owe Roger an apology letter
Speaker 3: because I know that, you know, for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 3: like we credit Michael Jackson for video innovation, but for
Speaker 3: that thing to come out in nineteen seventy nine, which
Speaker 3: is basically.
Speaker 2: Pretty much.
Speaker 3: You know, if you were to take like the fifteen
Speaker 3: best videos you've seen on MTV for the first four years.
Speaker 2: Like between eighty one and eighty five, then.
Speaker 3: I would say, like The Wall was all that in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine and he just never truly got the credit.
Speaker 3: Like again, I discovered The Wall in twenty two, like
Speaker 3: long after after that effect, so I you know, I
Speaker 3: highly recommend it.
Speaker 6: But I mean, yeah, when I was in high school,
Speaker 6: I was like a cult classic. If you had to
Speaker 6: sit down and watch The Wall, we all knew it
Speaker 6: was something special. And everybody was, you know, trying to
Speaker 6: experiment with drugs and watch The Wall and we're at
Speaker 6: a party the Walls on like that was like the
Speaker 6: cool thing. You know.
Speaker 2: Yep, I recommend it.
Speaker 3: You know, before twenty twenty, I really wasn't big on
Speaker 3: drinking or psychedelics at all, like an occasional cookie or
Speaker 3: a gummy of that sort of thing. But you know,
Speaker 3: most people said, like you'd experienced it outside. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: still not an outside person. I want to be inside
Speaker 3: when I do it because I don't know, fear of
Speaker 3: control or whatever. But someone suggested to me to watch
Speaker 3: Fantasia and there's two Verds, there's Fantasia, and then Fantasia
Speaker 3: two just came out in two thousand.
Speaker 2: Without Psychedelics, you'll see something.
Speaker 3: In that movie, but with it, Oh my god, there's
Speaker 3: there's a it's a whole nother level of like.
Speaker 2: I use that pretty much.
Speaker 3: I'd watch it like once maybe twice a week while
Speaker 3: kind of making, and then after that I would get
Speaker 3: ideas for Summer of Soul, like oh, want to do
Speaker 3: this and that and this and that, and kind of
Speaker 3: the panic level of Summer of Soul's editing. I would
Speaker 3: say was really inspired just by like ideas I had
Speaker 3: from doing that. Sometimes you have to get into someone
Speaker 3: else's art in order to.
Speaker 2: Create your own.
Speaker 3: I want to ask, so, did you start Permuta Triangle
Speaker 3: before the Alabama Shakes?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: That was after Okay after, So Alabama Shakes was your
Speaker 3: first first group?
Speaker 2: Can you talk about the formation of that?
Speaker 6: So? I you know, I was. I was in high
Speaker 6: school and I have been looking for people to play
Speaker 6: with and as seen a couple of guys in my
Speaker 6: school that were interested in music, playing music, and they
Speaker 6: were like dedicated to it. So I really wanted to them.
Speaker 6: I was trying to figure out some younger than them,
Speaker 6: and me being me, I was like, why would they
Speaker 6: want to talk to me? Like I'm younger than them,
Speaker 6: I look different than them. We don't travel in the
Speaker 6: same groups. I don't know how I'm gonna have my end.
Speaker 6: So I went made a little demo like by myself,
Speaker 6: and I used to use like audacity, so it's like
Speaker 6: super easy to record with sounded terrible back back in
Speaker 6: the day, and so I brought him to a CD
Speaker 6: and I was like, hey, this is to Zach bass
Speaker 6: player who later became the bass player of Alabama Shakes.
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, I made this music. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just wonder if you everyone to come like jam
Speaker 6: on me sometime play music with me. Sometimes he was
Speaker 6: like yeah, let's go listen to it. So we go
Speaker 6: to the parking lot of high school, sitting in his
Speaker 6: Honda chord. He plays it and he's like, oh, this
Speaker 6: is cool. He's like, yeah, I'd like to like to
Speaker 6: come over and play. So that's the spot when I
Speaker 6: was like fifteen sixteen and me and Zach started playing
Speaker 6: every day and we were learning how to play like
Speaker 6: at the time, it was like prog rock. So we're
Speaker 6: like doing Yes and King Crimson. We're like learning that
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. This is new to me, but I'm
Speaker 6: fascinated by it because it's all really technically different, cool stuff.
Speaker 6: And we started writing together and then we made a
Speaker 6: demo and Heath, who later became a guitar player for
Speaker 6: The Shakes, heard that and was like, I want y'all
Speaker 6: to open, Like, can y'all open for my band? And
Speaker 6: I was like, man, we don't even got a band.
Speaker 6: It's just like us. So we went down to the
Speaker 6: music store and the best drummer in town worked at
Speaker 6: the music store. We only had one music store in town. Hey, man,
Speaker 6: you wanna come play with us? He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 6: We show him our demo. He's like, I'll check it out.
Speaker 6: Come by, I'll see what y'all about. So then we
Speaker 6: started playing together and then we opened up for Heat's group,
Speaker 6: and honestly, that's like, what did it? The first time
Speaker 6: we played together, we knew that we had something, and
Speaker 6: so we started them working on our own material and
Speaker 6: that later became the Albama Shik's The Four of Us.
Speaker 2: I got hip to you guys via Jack White.
Speaker 3: It was pretty much like, you know, screwing from the
Speaker 3: mountaintops about you guys and whatnot? For you, did you
Speaker 3: have any expectations of where this journey was going to
Speaker 3: take you in terms of, like.
Speaker 6: I'm trying, from the time we started a band, which
Speaker 6: I'm saying we started a band when I probably had
Speaker 6: just graduated high school two thousand and seven, I'd say, like,
Speaker 6: that's really when we started playing our own shows with
Speaker 6: our own music. And then I feel like whenever Boys
Speaker 6: and Girls came out with like twenty twelve, eleven, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't that long, but we played all
Speaker 6: the time, and we played for no money, and all
Speaker 6: we did was get together Tuesdays and Thursdays and write
Speaker 6: new music, write new music, write new music, work on
Speaker 6: the set, work on the set. And to me, it
Speaker 6: was just like miraculous that anything happened at all because
Speaker 6: at a certain point I just I just like accepted
Speaker 6: that I was going to be a male carrier. I
Speaker 6: was going to deliver mail and I'll play music on
Speaker 6: the side, and that was going to be my life.
Speaker 6: I was okay with that.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask because I'm curious about band dynamics,
Speaker 3: like anyone being a band or a unit. In know,
Speaker 3: post millennial times, it's almost like as it's like aliens landing,
Speaker 3: because you know, pretty much life is built for the
Speaker 3: solo artists post art post two thousand. When the band
Speaker 3: is forming, is there a general agreement like of who
Speaker 3: the leader is? Or is it like a thing where
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, it's democracy and we all have a say,
Speaker 3: or like how do.
Speaker 2: You handle.
Speaker 3: Banned decisions and whatnot? Like how do you how do
Speaker 3: you deal with those dynamics?
Speaker 6: For us, it was a democracy that's we honestly communicated
Speaker 6: a lot why or why not we shouldn't do something right?
Speaker 6: And the better you were and just talking about your
Speaker 6: feelings usually the more.
Speaker 2: What's that, the.
Speaker 6: More the more it will go your way because the better,
Speaker 6: the better you were, the better you were communicating why
Speaker 6: you didn't want to do this. It was it was
Speaker 6: almost like in a court of law, but it came
Speaker 6: from an emotional place. I really don't want to do
Speaker 6: this because X y Z, this is cheesy, this is that,
Speaker 6: this is yeah. Yeah, you know, if you were quieter,
Speaker 6: you didn't get as much as your wife because it's
Speaker 6: like nobody's hearing what you have to say. But we
Speaker 6: would all sit down and talk.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I would assume that their reception of
Speaker 3: boys and girls was not overwhelming, but it was definitely,
Speaker 3: you know, to come out the gate. And I'm speaking
Speaker 3: as a person that took four attempts to finally come
Speaker 3: out the gate. What is it like on your debut
Speaker 3: to come out the gate and instantly become critical Dartlings
Speaker 3: And what is that feeling?
Speaker 6: Surreal? So absolutely surreal.
Speaker 3: You described like the first moment when you realize like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, we're really going to be a thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. I do remember it. It popped in
Speaker 6: my head as soon as you said I remember. It
Speaker 6: was in Nashville on Broadway and there's like the Secret Club.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know anything about that life.
Speaker 6: We had just got through playing the Blue Room with
Speaker 6: Jack White. Jack White invited just to play his third
Speaker 6: Man records, and I was excited to meet Jack White
Speaker 6: because I love the White stripes. And then if kings
Speaker 6: Leon is there, and I at the time, like I
Speaker 6: had like the first two records, loved kings Lynn and
Speaker 6: they're coming up, They're coming up to me and they're like,
Speaker 6: you know, I think you're gonna make it, like all
Speaker 6: this stuff, you know, and I'm like, these guys tell
Speaker 6: me I'm gonna make it. And so I remember going
Speaker 6: to the secret little bar after the show, and you know,
Speaker 6: it was kind of fancy. I'd never been in that
Speaker 6: environment before. And I remember there's a balcony outside. It
Speaker 6: was me and the drummer, Steve, and I go out
Speaker 6: there and and Steve were crying and I was like,
Speaker 6: I looked at him. I was like, why are you crying?
Speaker 6: He was like, I just think I really think we're
Speaker 6: gonna do something. And I was like, damn, you think so.
Speaker 6: And then I started crying, and We're just out there
Speaker 6: this emotional moment that's like, I can't believe this is
Speaker 6: happening to us. It was just all of our circumstances.
Speaker 6: It was just like such a miracle happening in our lives.
Speaker 6: It was just like it's like a superman came in
Speaker 6: to save you, you know, you.
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah. It's like right on, so much of.
Speaker 6: My life at the poverty line, and now I had
Speaker 6: an opportunity for the first time ever, you know, And
Speaker 6: that's what it felt like.
Speaker 2: You all collectively moved to Nashville or.
Speaker 6: No, I was the first one to move to Nashville,
Speaker 6: and that was later. It was like much later. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I've say Nathan's for a long time.
Speaker 3: I'm being told that Nashville is pretty much the last
Speaker 3: bashion of hope for the serious musician? Is it that
Speaker 3: like every singer songwriter I know, especially now, like I
Speaker 3: peeped one person's Instagram feed and suddenly, you know, like
Speaker 3: when you peep one Instagram feed, your algorithms was suddenly
Speaker 3: I didn't realize the staggering amount of songwriters and I
Speaker 3: just thought like, oh, it must be just country. No,
Speaker 3: it's every musician is like I gotta go to Nashville
Speaker 3: to make it the way that an actress is like
Speaker 3: I gotta go to Hollywood. What is it about Nashville
Speaker 3: that just calls out not even a musician.
Speaker 2: You what is it? What is it? For me?
Speaker 6: It was a practical thing. Nashville Airport goes a lot
Speaker 6: of different places. That's really all it was. And I had,
Speaker 6: you know, when I moved there initially, so I'm from
Speaker 6: a small town. Nashville was kind of besides Birmingham, that
Speaker 6: was the next biggest town. That's where you could go
Speaker 6: see the bands you want to see who go see
Speaker 6: live music. So I was always going up there to
Speaker 6: go see bands, and so I made friends up there,
Speaker 6: so naturally I wanted to go to be where my
Speaker 6: friends were. So that's how I ended up in Nashville.
Speaker 6: But I stay in Nashville because it's practical, Like my
Speaker 6: family's an hour and a half away, the airport's fifteen
Speaker 6: minutes away. Now I have good friends in the city,
Speaker 6: and that's I mean, I'm not gonna say I get
Speaker 6: out there and watch a lot of music. I don't really,
Speaker 6: I'm kind of a home by.
Speaker 3: I just want to say congratulations, Brittany Howard. You you've
Speaker 3: continued a long tradition h quest love supreme antics where
Speaker 3: I will romanticize something and if you subject just takes
Speaker 3: this and does this.
Speaker 4: But there is a beauty to Nashville. I've only lately.
Speaker 5: I had never been there in my whole life up
Speaker 5: until the last five years, because of the whole because
Speaker 5: they have the Black Music Museum now in Nashville, which
Speaker 5: I'm on a small board for, but also witnessing like
Speaker 5: Black Americana and some of those bands and the rise
Speaker 5: of like black folks claiming their country again.
Speaker 4: Is a beautiful it's beautiful.
Speaker 6: It is it is beautiful. It is beautiful. And I
Speaker 6: do love that about Nashville, and I actually love the
Speaker 6: younger people that live there now in the music that
Speaker 6: they're doing. It's actually really exciting. We got like house
Speaker 6: clubs now. Well I don't know if I just say that,
Speaker 6: but like we have house parties now.
Speaker 3: Brittany's my house music but actual house yeah, joint meaning or.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like, you know, everything they do is legal.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying there.
Speaker 3: And okay, no, no, no, I thought you in the house music,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, a club culture is coming to Nashville.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 6: No, that is what I'm saying. That's what that is
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, And.
Speaker 6: They get their own speaker systems together and it's cool.
Speaker 6: It's like really cool. It's really lively. I'll go out.
Speaker 6: I'll go to that, but not for long because I
Speaker 6: like to sleep nowadays, but like I'll go for a
Speaker 6: couple of hours, you know what I mean. And there's
Speaker 6: that happening in Nashville. That's cool. And there's a part
Speaker 6: of me that almost wants the gate keep it, to
Speaker 6: keep it pure because Nashville. You have to keep in
Speaker 6: mind it's also a tourist town, but we also have
Speaker 6: to live in a tourist town.
Speaker 2: You don't already coming colonizing your precious now.
Speaker 4: Amazon already moved to Nashville. Honey, it's official. It's it's gone.
Speaker 6: It's over. It's over, Oracles living and it's over. It's over.
Speaker 6: We got top golf, Hey, top golf?
Speaker 4: What you know about top golf?
Speaker 2: A mere Yeah, I'm a human being? Like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: What do I know about top off?
Speaker 9: Like you?
Speaker 2: What a human being?
Speaker 10: Do you know?
Speaker 3: We'll invite every walk of life to a game night
Speaker 3: like Doctor Game Night.
Speaker 6: Of course.
Speaker 4: I'm from the bowling We used to do the Bowling twenty.
Speaker 4: You got to keep the go back at it.
Speaker 3: I will ask at its height, was there a moment
Speaker 3: when and again my obsession with how people can create
Speaker 3: and do bands together, the same questions I asked Fante
Speaker 3: with Little Brother, is there a moment where it stops
Speaker 3: being fun? Or you know when you when you released
Speaker 3: your first solo record, I was like, uh oh, like
Speaker 3: because often when people release a solo record, I'm hoping
Speaker 3: that they realize that you can go off and do
Speaker 3: separate projects, but you can always come back to home
Speaker 3: base and keep the brand alive, or keep my dream alive.
Speaker 2: I won't say the dream, but.
Speaker 3: You know you well, yeah, because I want to see
Speaker 3: more bands in existence, so in your in a way
Speaker 3: that you can express it without it being awkward. What
Speaker 3: was the decision that led up to breaking up the band?
Speaker 6: We have been working incredibly hard for a long number
Speaker 6: of years, and it came to a point where people
Speaker 6: got to go home and live their lives. But I
Speaker 6: had never really got to live my life because I
Speaker 6: was working on the next album, or I was doing this,
Speaker 6: I was doing that, and it's just like I was
Speaker 6: just tired, just tired. And it was like a hard
Speaker 6: decision because like those are my brothers, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like all of our lives experiences miracle. At
Speaker 6: the same time, we saw the world together and we
Speaker 6: created beautiful things together. It's really difficult to choose myself,
Speaker 6: I'll be honest. It's difficult to take care of my
Speaker 6: own mental, spiritual, and emotional health. But there's a choice
Speaker 6: I made because I wasn't enjoying creating. Nothing was coming
Speaker 6: to me. I was just kind of tired of the
Speaker 6: whole business. It was like I didn't even like music
Speaker 6: no more, you know what I mean. It's just like
Speaker 6: I think it was just overworked, and it was a
Speaker 6: kind of situation where it's like even if I took
Speaker 6: a break, I don't know if I would have come back,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's nobody's fault. It's just conditional.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that would actually be more of
Speaker 3: a business or more of a burden now that everything's
Speaker 3: going to fall on you. Like I'm certain that as
Speaker 3: a solo artist, yes, you could complete autonomy in terms
Speaker 3: of how you sonically want stuff to sound, or songs
Speaker 3: you want to do, or whatever control that it is
Speaker 3: that you want to musically, how you want it to sound.
Speaker 2: But I would figure that it's even more of a
Speaker 2: burden that way. For you.
Speaker 3: Was it a matter of like song choices, what you
Speaker 3: wanted to do or how you wanted something to sound,
Speaker 3: or arrangements or level of musicians and sip? Like, what
Speaker 3: was it about being a soul artist that made you say, look,
Speaker 3: this is the end of the road and I have
Speaker 3: to do this now.
Speaker 6: I think what you're saying is part of it. It's
Speaker 6: all kind of part of it. Wanting to hear what
Speaker 6: it sounds like if I create something without anybody editing
Speaker 6: it as part of it, Like what if I can
Speaker 6: just do this on my own. What if I can
Speaker 6: just write music like this on my own. I need
Speaker 6: to write recipe, I need to write parts. I you know,
Speaker 6: it's like it's just a freedom, a creative freedom, and
Speaker 6: I thought life is short. I think it's worth giving
Speaker 6: out a shot, giving that a chance to see what
Speaker 6: I can do with it. That's part of it. And
Speaker 6: as far as like having a burden being a solo artist,
Speaker 6: I just feel like there's not as much of a
Speaker 6: burden as you would think, because at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, when I don't want to do this anymore,
Speaker 6: I'm not like having to affect other people's lives as
Speaker 6: much as I was in the shakes. Like if I
Speaker 6: said I don't want to tour this year, that's affecting
Speaker 6: all of them. And what if I don't want to
Speaker 6: go back out, that's affecting all of them all of
Speaker 6: the time. So you're kind of tied together, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And when when you're on your own,
Speaker 6: it's like the ship sinks or the ship sales, like
Speaker 6: and it's all up to me. So it's a different
Speaker 6: type of fulfillment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'd like to know because you are you were an
Speaker 3: intersectional and in a racial band, how hard is it
Speaker 3: to get people to understand culturally where you're coming from
Speaker 3: when you're kind of a kind of alone but still
Speaker 3: in a crowd of people, Like, is it easy to
Speaker 3: explain things? Are they sensitive to these things? Or was
Speaker 3: it always a teachable lesson? And not even with your bandmates,
Speaker 3: but just as you guys are operating as a band.
Speaker 6: I think that's a good question. It's like nothing we
Speaker 6: ever really had to talk about. It was just this
Speaker 6: is me, this is my expression, this is how I
Speaker 6: feel about this. We never had really have we never
Speaker 6: really had to have conversations because by the time, like
Speaker 6: when we were talking about the band, by the time
Speaker 6: the band kind of concluded, we had all grown a
Speaker 6: lot in a lot of different ways, and it kind
Speaker 6: of got to the point where I was just like, well,
Speaker 6: I don't want any of my expressions to affect you
Speaker 6: or vice versa. How I feel about something shouldn't affect you,
Speaker 6: and how you feel about something should you know, it
Speaker 6: started to become a little bit more like how do
Speaker 6: I say, like, uh, some of us were different, that's all. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we just grew into different people difference.
Speaker 3: You worked on sound and color with one of my
Speaker 3: favorite producers, Blake Mills.
Speaker 2: He describe what that process was like working with them.
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, there were there were some songs. So usually
Speaker 6: when I come to the studio, I have everything already
Speaker 6: demoed out, like how I wanted sound, and it don't
Speaker 6: sound good yet, but it's just the ideas there, and
Speaker 6: I'll have all the parts laid out. And there was
Speaker 6: a few songs I just couldn't seem to get finished.
Speaker 6: You know. Work with Blake was cool because we both
Speaker 6: just put our heads together and tried to figure out
Speaker 6: where we can take this thing. And one of the songs,
Speaker 6: you know, I had, like it's called it a song
Speaker 6: called the Greatest and it was like a slow kind
Speaker 6: of ballad thing. Yeah, and he was like, oh, just
Speaker 6: beat it up. There you go. There was now it's
Speaker 6: like this punk rock thing and it was really cool.
Speaker 6: It was like a it's like a Ramones type thing,
Speaker 6: and I liked that. And then there was like obviously
Speaker 6: getting the sounds and tones where we're working with a
Speaker 6: shine everyy and we were all of us were like
Speaker 6: a part of that process, especially like the mixing and
Speaker 6: finding the different sounds. And then I think for like
Speaker 6: the final song, finishing some of the lyrics to to
Speaker 6: think it was Gemini song, Gemini finishing lyrics to that,
Speaker 6: and and the process was like having Blake work with
Speaker 6: you is like it's nice to have someone like a
Speaker 6: light of fire underneath you and keep you on task
Speaker 6: because I feel like sometimes as songwriters and musicians, having
Speaker 6: an idea of finishing it is a whole it's a
Speaker 6: whole thing. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Could you talk about what the process was like
Speaker 3: producing your own records, like being in total control of
Speaker 3: it and and kind of using that as you're not
Speaker 3: soapbox or pool pit like that being your confessional kind
Speaker 3: of project. Can you can you explain just the process
Speaker 3: of making the Jamie record.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was actually kind of a supernatural process, to
Speaker 6: be honest with you. I went to to Panga in
Speaker 6: a you know, it's like that mountain outside La and
Speaker 6: it's got like the hip They said there's hippies there.
Speaker 6: I didn't mean any, but I rented this house, and
Speaker 6: I had like three songs and I knew that and
Speaker 6: three I think it was like three weeks a month.
Speaker 6: I had to go into the studio and I had
Speaker 6: to record, and I didn't have anything, and I wasn't
Speaker 6: getting anything, Like I don't I don't smoke weed. I
Speaker 6: like win by some weed. And I sat down and
Speaker 6: I was like, I gotta I gotta connect with the muse.
Speaker 6: I have to get inspired. I don't have anything. So
Speaker 6: I called a psychic and the psychic was like, oh,
Speaker 6: you already got She's like, you already got in bad,
Speaker 6: the record's already done. I was like, what do you mean.
Speaker 6: She's like, you already have the songs, you just got
Speaker 6: to find them. I was like, this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 6: So now I'm miserable because I don't waste the money
Speaker 6: on the psychic. But I have I have four songs.
Speaker 6: And I go to the studio and I tell Sean,
Speaker 6: I don't know, this is what I got. Let's get
Speaker 6: the band in hair. Let's do this and maybe as
Speaker 6: the days go by out I'll find time to create
Speaker 6: some new ones. I don't know. As we would sit
Speaker 6: down with the band have lunch, we'd have these conversations
Speaker 6: and then they would just say like a particular word,
Speaker 6: like one of the words was Jehovah's Witness, and I
Speaker 6: had remembered right when they said it. Oh my god,
Speaker 6: I have a project in logic called Jehovah's Witness. And
Speaker 6: it was cool because I've been named. I name my
Speaker 6: projects like whatever, because I have to have to name
Speaker 6: them before I can save them on my system. So
Speaker 6: I had to get someone all the way back in
Speaker 6: Nashville to send me in higher projects. And that's how
Speaker 6: I got the album together. It would be every day
Speaker 6: going in and someone would just say a phrase and
Speaker 6: I'd be like, that's a song. Now I have the song, baby,
Speaker 6: Now I have the song. GoAhead, and all these things
Speaker 6: are getting pulled in and like it just came together
Speaker 6: like that. It was crazy. It's like I did already
Speaker 6: have them. So the psychic was right, like it was
Speaker 6: technically correct.
Speaker 3: What was the inspiration because actually, to be honest, I
Speaker 3: forgot where I was, but I should zamed something I heard,
Speaker 3: uh uh said the kid singing, and I she zammed
Speaker 3: it and I realized I didn't. I didn't know at
Speaker 3: the time that you actually remixed the Jamie album or
Speaker 3: had a slew of people from Ninth Wonder and Georgia
Speaker 3: and and Bad Not Good and and uh I think, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah Glover.
Speaker 3: Glover worked on a joint too, right, So I got
Speaker 3: deep into that. What was what was the process of
Speaker 3: doing that? Because it was almost like a whole new album.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the process was like, first things first,
Speaker 6: I just want to reach out to people whose music
Speaker 6: and ideas I really respect. What if y'all wanted to
Speaker 6: remix one of these songs real quick? What would it
Speaker 6: sound like if you did it? And honestly, like everybody
Speaker 6: was super excited to do it. And every time a
Speaker 6: new song would come out and get so excited and
Speaker 6: I'd run out to my car and I just sit
Speaker 6: there and listen to him be blown away. Like Little
Speaker 6: Dragon did some stuff, Fredigan did some stuff, Michael and
Speaker 6: Nuka did some stuff, and just like people I've always
Speaker 6: like kind of wanted to work with, and this is
Speaker 6: kind of an easy way to get to work together.
Speaker 6: The overall is the song and the materials already there,
Speaker 6: just rearrange it like how would you have done it?
Speaker 6: And it was so interesting to listen to it was
Speaker 6: it was so cool, such such a cool project.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of like the Verve Remix projects like
Speaker 5: you just did their own album. Can I just ask
Speaker 5: you talk about a lot of things self care wise
Speaker 5: in this conversation. I'm curious how it's evolved now that
Speaker 5: you are by yourself and you have to figure out
Speaker 5: all of these you know, it's just everything has changed
Speaker 5: in the dynamic. Although you have this whole level, next
Speaker 5: level of freedom, you also have a next level of attention.
Speaker 4: So what does that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, responsibility, Like Fonte said, like, so what does self
Speaker 5: care on a daily look for you?
Speaker 6: Look like for you on the daily? So I do meditation.
Speaker 6: I do transdidal meditation. So I've been doing that for
Speaker 6: I guess a couple of years. Yeah, helps, it helps
Speaker 6: a lot. How much time?
Speaker 4: How much time do you spend on it?
Speaker 6: That's twenty minutes twice to day.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's why I was late to this joint.
Speaker 4: Okay, excused, excuse?
Speaker 6: Well, that creates you know, it's amazing what it does.
Speaker 6: Creates a lot of space in my life. I got
Speaker 6: one of the minds. It runs all day and when
Speaker 6: I lay down, don't want to stop running, you know.
Speaker 6: So that that's really helpful and gives me patience for
Speaker 6: anything that I come up against, me space for people
Speaker 6: who love me and who I want to take care of,
Speaker 6: helping me be a better performer because I'm not overwhelmed,
Speaker 6: not stressed out all the time, because you know, it
Speaker 6: just can be very stressful.
Speaker 2: Do you have anxiety performing?
Speaker 6: No, I don't have anxiety performing, But you know, performing
Speaker 6: to me is really it's the pinnacle of what I do.
Speaker 6: Like I love making records, I also love performing, and
Speaker 6: when I perform, I really I really do try my
Speaker 6: best man and like it's just it's the point where
Speaker 6: I get to be free, Like in my physical form,
Speaker 6: I get to be free. Nobody can touch me, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, this is my space, this
Speaker 6: is my thing. We feel that, Yeah, And I just
Speaker 6: I spend like when I'm on tour now, I just
Speaker 6: spend all of my time making sure I'm ready for
Speaker 6: that thing. You know, that's the most important thing when
Speaker 6: I'm out here.
Speaker 7: I want to ask you work on this new record
Speaker 7: with a good buddy of mine, Nate Smith Nick. What's
Speaker 7: it like collaborating with him? And how'd you guys meet
Speaker 7: and start work.
Speaker 6: So I love Nate. I'm a drummer at heart. I
Speaker 6: love drummers, right, I've been I've been a fan of
Speaker 6: you Quest for a very very long time, in a yeah,
Speaker 6: very long time. And of course, and I had been started.
Speaker 6: I started to see Nate and I started to see
Speaker 6: the way he played, and I thought the way he
Speaker 6: played was so interesting because so emotional. Of course it's
Speaker 6: super technical, but there's also just so much feeling in
Speaker 6: it when he's playing. And I started watching his videos
Speaker 6: and I thought to myself before I made the album, Jamie,
Speaker 6: if I'm going to get any drummer to play on this,
Speaker 6: who would be? And I just because I had just
Speaker 6: found him, and it just kind of broke off into
Speaker 6: watching his videos. I was like, I'm just gonna ask them.
Speaker 6: I's gonna ask Nate. Let's see if you'll do it.
Speaker 6: And he said yes, came to the studio, we made
Speaker 6: that album together, and then I was like, will you
Speaker 6: go on the road with me? And I had to
Speaker 6: a little convincing we know you did that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: They say yes, And now I get to play with
Speaker 6: him like every night, all the time. He's just the
Speaker 6: one just incredible, It's just incredible. Incredible. I feel like
Speaker 6: the luckiest person I get to be on stage with
Speaker 6: someone like a musician like that.
Speaker 10: Does he only play three drums on the road? Think
Speaker 10: he has a kick a stare in a high hat.
Speaker 10: That's like it's ship, It's like the quest Love method.
Speaker 10: It's like all you need?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 10: Does he does he have drums on the road?
Speaker 6: Not? During my show we got him playing. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: got two kick drums, two toms. It's really bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brittany, can I ask you about the visuals for
Speaker 5: this this album, or at least for the first the single,
Speaker 5: and tell me about Like I'm just curious too, because again,
Speaker 5: you want your soul, you want your solo joints, So
Speaker 5: tell me about what you just how it even came
Speaker 5: to fruition and to the album cover, because what we're
Speaker 5: seeing today is not how you perform as well.
Speaker 4: It's like a whole.
Speaker 6: So for the visuals for the album cover, I really
Speaker 6: I really like movies. I really like Japanese movies and
Speaker 6: koreand movies, and I like kier Kursawa and Cursawa's got
Speaker 6: this movie called Dream and I never hear people really
Speaker 6: talking about it, but it's the most beautiful movie, and
Speaker 6: the things he was trying in that film are incredible, colorful,
Speaker 6: unique storylines. You kind of show up and you're supposed
Speaker 6: to just know what's going on. It's like all this
Speaker 6: like folklore, and at the same time he's weaving in
Speaker 6: his own life story and it's all just very deep
Speaker 6: and metaphorical. I was very inspired by that visual element,
Speaker 6: like the visual elements from that film, and so when
Speaker 6: I went to do my album cover, I wanted it
Speaker 6: to feel kind of like a dream where it's like
Speaker 6: you're sitting in a place that is seemingly like very
Speaker 6: beautiful and very comfortable, but in truth, there's like a
Speaker 6: storm in the background and there's rattlesnakes and the flowers
Speaker 6: and it's twenty degrees outside. Because that was the reality.
Speaker 6: The reality was that's not Ai. I woke up at
Speaker 6: two twenty am to drive us to the mountains Ai Ai. No, No,
Speaker 6: that's Ai. That's real, real, real, And then the video
Speaker 6: and then the video for what Now. Yes, Yeah, so
Speaker 6: the song went Now it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 6: like Michael Jackson. It kind of reminds me of like
Speaker 6: this nostalgia from when I was a kid, like RoboCop,
Speaker 6: I don't know, like like yeah, just like the vascilline
Speaker 6: on the lens effect, Like so that's what I That's
Speaker 6: what I wanted to give it. I wanted to give
Speaker 6: it this kind of like matrix like Ninja like RoboCop,
Speaker 6: like like just aesthetic to it because the.
Speaker 4: Song to me, because you're hardly in it.
Speaker 6: No, I don't like being I don't like being amge
Speaker 6: videos takes to them.
Speaker 2: Smart, like that's the Haerowsmith way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's exhaustic.
Speaker 3: I'd be remiss if I didn't ask what was it
Speaker 3: like to record at Sound and Porium For those that
Speaker 3: don't know, Sound and Poorium in Nashville is like a
Speaker 3: legend fucking dairy studio owned by RCA Records, Like all
Speaker 3: the greats have recorded there. I was surprised it's still
Speaker 3: up in operational running. And my big side of that
Speaker 3: question is how did you wind up with Prince's board?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Sounding Poium is great, you know the first and
Speaker 6: foremost I want to I want a real chamber, like
Speaker 6: wherever I'm recording, they got one of those. I want
Speaker 6: a big room because I want to be able to
Speaker 6: position mics wherever I need to or if I have
Speaker 6: like a binaural mic and to center room. I want
Speaker 6: to be able to space things out as far as
Speaker 6: I want to. If I want to throw my voice,
Speaker 6: I can be in the corner room. I got plenty
Speaker 6: of space to do this. Got plenty of space to
Speaker 6: do whatever you want. So that's one of the things
Speaker 6: I love about signing Porium. And they already got all
Speaker 6: the gear you need. They got the tape machines. You know,
Speaker 6: you're not calling in and bringing this stuff. They got
Speaker 6: a lot of the They have a great board. I
Speaker 6: think they just got like a They used to have
Speaker 6: a need board, which I really really really like, but
Speaker 6: now they got this API board. Is it's nice too.
Speaker 6: It's good. I like it so Soundportum shot them out.
Speaker 6: I'll keep going there as long as they'll have me.
Speaker 6: I love it there. It's like home away from home
Speaker 6: at this point. Nice Now when it comes to the
Speaker 6: Princess console, yeah, it didn't belong to Prince himself. This
Speaker 6: has been getting all over the world. It's like a
Speaker 6: game of telephone. Chris so Prince. You know he recorded
Speaker 6: his first album twice. Yeah, it was like in the
Speaker 6: Bay Area. This board had been in Minneapolis, but the
Speaker 6: MCI board. But the fella who hadn't wanted to take
Speaker 6: it to the Bay Area with him, so he took
Speaker 6: it from Minneapolis to like, I don't know, somewhere around
Speaker 6: San Francisco. That album got recorded. The first time Prince
Speaker 6: did it, he said didn't like it. You know, we
Speaker 6: all know that story because the other musicians were playing.
Speaker 6: So then he scrapped that and where he went and
Speaker 6: recorded the actual album was a different board. So that's
Speaker 6: that's just the providence of it. And the fella who
Speaker 6: had took it to there then took it to Nashville,
Speaker 6: and that's how it got in Nashville, and that's how
Speaker 6: I got a hold of it. Of Course, when I
Speaker 6: paid for it, I didn't buy it because it was
Speaker 6: Prince's board. I just I just saw this like MCI
Speaker 6: board with the MCI tape machine that comes together in
Speaker 6: a moment, and I was like, yeah, I want that.
Speaker 2: There's I forget the studio it was.
Speaker 3: But when Jill Scott first moved to Nashville, Uh, we
Speaker 3: shot the video for whatever the first single was of
Speaker 3: her album in the studio and coincidentally, the API board
Speaker 3: that recorded the Purple Raine record and subsequently around the world.
Speaker 2: In the day Wow is also in Nashville.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Wow, why is Nashville becoming the.
Speaker 2: Landing spot for all of princess gear?
Speaker 6: So it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Have you ever recorded Jack White studio or went there
Speaker 2: or man?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Oh Third Man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah,
Speaker 6: I think the shiks that did some like singles over
Speaker 6: there at Third Man, Okay, yeah, I also been to
Speaker 6: his place he has he has a studio at his
Speaker 6: place too one a long time ago, and did a
Speaker 6: couple a couple of singles with him. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Pretty how much stuff like these days?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 10: Are you doing that digital based versus analog based? It
Speaker 10: seems like you're just talking about about chambers and binormal
Speaker 10: mic seems very analogy to me, but like some of
Speaker 10: the sounds seem very digital. I don't know, like where
Speaker 10: what do you do? Are you consciously like making decisions
Speaker 10: based on my kind of thing is just kind of
Speaker 10: all just all a bunch of paint and you're just
Speaker 10: painting with.
Speaker 2: All of it.
Speaker 6: So I so when I start off doing my demos,
Speaker 6: it's usually digital because it's handy. I can pull from
Speaker 6: lots of different ideas. Really quickly, so I'll start there,
Speaker 6: but I know ultimately I want to do something analog,
Speaker 6: uh to me, and you know everybody has an opinion
Speaker 6: about this, but to me, the analog is just more
Speaker 6: fun because you can accidentally do shit with analog. That
Speaker 6: is just because there's a wiring problem or this one
Speaker 6: sounds different than that one. Why is that. It's just
Speaker 6: like there's something to it. There's something in the wiring,
Speaker 6: in the circuitry, in the tubes, and then putting everything
Speaker 6: down the tape just kind of like a nice way
Speaker 6: of smushing everything together. Just it's just like so like
Speaker 6: it's such a it's such a small detail, but I
Speaker 6: really do think I can feel and hear the difference,
Speaker 6: and personally, when I'm making music is more fun. It's
Speaker 6: just more fun.
Speaker 3: All right, Before we wrap up, I don't want to
Speaker 3: be intrusive, but you did bring it up.
Speaker 2: Can you share with me what your mantra word is
Speaker 2: in your team?
Speaker 6: I can't, you know, I can't. I'm not gonna that word.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So when you when you do TM,
Speaker 3: like like meditation, okay, yeah, transit, yes, So all right.
Speaker 3: When I first got introduced to meditation, of course, was
Speaker 3: in the pandemic, and I felt the world's fucking coming
Speaker 3: to an end. So I became like a meditation obsessive.
Speaker 3: I was going about it all wrong, like I was
Speaker 3: doing I would do like two hours to two and
Speaker 3: a half hours in the morning before I get out
Speaker 3: of bed of anything, DMT meditate like every type of
Speaker 3: breath of fire, all that stuff, and then I do
Speaker 3: an additional two hours before I go to bed. And
Speaker 3: a friend was like, wait, you meditate four hours a day?
Speaker 10: Yeah, how do you have that time?
Speaker 2: I was the world's time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: All I had was DJing for five hours and work
Speaker 3: a bid on Summer Soul. But I was doing nothing,
Speaker 3: and I was just like, I need to keep my sanity.
Speaker 3: I need to keep my sanity. And they were basically like,
Speaker 3: all right, that's cute, but you're doing it wrong and
Speaker 3: you really and so he gave me a clip. Weird enough,
Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld has a clip on YouTube of all people
Speaker 3: in the world, and he's like, the key to my
Speaker 3: success is tim trans meditation. And you know, I met
Speaker 3: him maybe seven months later and I asked him about it.
Speaker 3: I was like, so, what did you mean the key
Speaker 3: to your success? Yes, and He's like, well, we would
Speaker 3: break for lunch on Seinfeld and instead of me going
Speaker 3: to lunch them forty five minutes, I'll go to my
Speaker 3: trailer and I'll do tam for like maybe ten to
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes always, and then I'll go about my day.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I don't get it ten minutes.
Speaker 3: I do four hours. And he started laughing, like you're
Speaker 3: doing it wrong. And so basically, there's a gentleman named
Speaker 3: Bob Roth who I got put onto.
Speaker 2: And what it is.
Speaker 3: Is that you're assigned a word and you're supposed to
Speaker 3: keep that word unique to yourself. I've talked to some
Speaker 3: people and you know we trade off words whatever, but yes,
Speaker 3: you're supposed to keep it to yourself, and you're basically
Speaker 3: supposed to sit. So I sit in this office and
Speaker 3: I sit in the dark, and pretty much you say,
Speaker 3: you're your mantra or your chant.
Speaker 2: If you remember what's love got.
Speaker 4: To do with it, I'm young holder and get killed right.
Speaker 3: Exactly, or if you're a fan of what's happening now,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, all right, I'm talking about what's happening. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, even you know that's words. But some people
Speaker 3: just sit in hum. Sometimes I get lazy and don't
Speaker 3: do the chant and I'll just sit hmm. And what
Speaker 3: it does is just basically, if you live a life
Speaker 3: in which you gotta make panic decisions with seconds left
Speaker 3: on the clock, Like I live in a constant state
Speaker 3: of panic, where it's you know, I this guy deadline
Speaker 3: and that deadline and where's your notes from da da
Speaker 3: da da da, and you're ten minutes later here and
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So sometimes you just gotta sit
Speaker 3: for ten minutes in silence. It's it's what keeps your
Speaker 3: sanity because if you don't do that, you're going to drink.
Speaker 2: I need a drink.
Speaker 3: I need something, you know, So I'd rather when I
Speaker 3: get to the place. And you know, even though we
Speaker 3: were talking before we started recording, I have probably one
Speaker 3: of the most stressful nights of my life last night,
Speaker 3: so I had to do therapy and TM like like old.
Speaker 2: School of mirror, like an hour. So it's it's the
Speaker 2: thing that keeps you.
Speaker 3: From making rash decisions that will affect the rest of
Speaker 3: your life or unfortunately for some people in their life.
Speaker 3: So with that said, I actually want to, you know,
Speaker 3: thank you, especially the way that the album is crafted
Speaker 3: with the interludes and and you know, in the same
Speaker 3: vein of is what Andre is doing with his project.
Speaker 3: Like I love the fact that post pandemic times, we're
Speaker 3: getting new versions of black artistry because oftentimes, like we're
Speaker 3: very close to the chest when it comes to being
Speaker 3: vulnerable and letting our feelings out there and and sharing
Speaker 3: with people. So yeah, congratulations on too, man, it's really inspiration.
Speaker 2: On Thank you for doing the show with us. Ritt,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations on freedom.
Speaker 6: Appreciate that. Thank thank you.
Speaker 5: We can we can see it and hear it. On
Speaker 5: you your freedom. It's awesome. I'm taking some of it,
Speaker 5: thank you, and.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that because I know, like this process of
Speaker 3: people just probing into your life and all those things
Speaker 3: is the part of the music viz. That is the
Speaker 3: most uncomfortable where we just want to sing and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But thank you.
Speaker 3: It's it's good to give somebody their flowers. That's just
Speaker 3: as uncomfortable as I am with taking it.
Speaker 5: So and listen, and happy Women's History Month, because you're
Speaker 5: always making history of my book.
Speaker 4: This voice is historic.
Speaker 6: And hey, thank you so much, thank you so much.
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: So when we havealf of fan Tigoelo Laya and Sugar
Speaker 3: Steve and brand new Bill, that's right. I got to
Speaker 3: give you a new day. I'm sorry, all right. We
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Speaker 4: I love it Bill, Bill and Brittany done it. They
Speaker 4: yalked on the street together.
Speaker 10: Brittany on the street.
Speaker 9: I don't think you.
Speaker 4: Ain't been on the street.
Speaker 2: Damn. We got Brittany on the street.
Speaker 4: It's perfect for the street.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she's just perfect in general.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I'll take that today. Hey, thank you,
Speaker 6: thank you.
Speaker 9: All right.
Speaker 3: So until the next time, ladies and gentlemen, this was
Speaker 3: Quest Love Supreme. We'll see you on the next gogram.
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