WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Brittany Howard

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>What's Up?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up with up? Ladies and gentlemen. This is Quest

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<v Speaker 3>Love Supreme. I'm your host Quest Love with Me Team Supreme. Like, yeah, hello,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I am well excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank, I know right, long time coming, long time coming.

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<v Speaker 2>What's you up to? What's what's going on out there?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now? It is not raining, So that's a good thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been raining since. I mean I was there for

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<v Speaker 3>the noest flood of Grammy Knight. It's still been raining since.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess, so I wasn't. I left and went to

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<v Speaker 5>Brazils on Grammy Night. But I heard it has been

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<v Speaker 5>You heard that Flaws you gotta you gotta drop it.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to Salvador. I have a solid door.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know you went to Brazil for carnival.

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<v Speaker 4>For the best carnival? Yes, yes, flex is that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>What once year?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me your forty five second report?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Salvador.

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<v Speaker 5>If anybody doesn't know about Salvador, Brazil is beautifully black.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the second largest black populated place outside of the continent,

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<v Speaker 5>so it has all the flavor in all of the

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<v Speaker 5>ways and.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a lot. It was just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>It was beautiful and fun and the food takes that

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<v Speaker 5>better there. Yeah, they say, just for you. So you

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<v Speaker 5>know the three different cities. You party in Rio and

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<v Speaker 5>the people in South Paolo work, so the people in

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<v Speaker 5>Rio can party.

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<v Speaker 4>And then yeah, the black folks are in Salvador.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you didn't go to Rio or the other spots.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was where you really want to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Literally, Amir, Salvador is the best place to go for carnival.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, it's where the black people are.

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<v Speaker 6>Who started it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, hey, I didn't know. I'm a product of the

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia High School public curriculum.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but you're a world traveler.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I just go to my hotel, eat my.

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<v Speaker 4>Iron We got them all. I would love to take

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<v Speaker 4>all your salad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you gotta let us know next time you're going.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,

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<v Speaker 4>you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go there to do the Author Vericai episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the Author Verkai. Yes, the Author Verica episode.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, how you know I didn't get the

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<v Speaker 3>peap heids coyotes collaborative album with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Have you heard it or haven't listened yet?

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't listened yet either.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's up, Steve, what's going on? How's life great?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm currently imagining a vacation with La to Salvador. I

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<v Speaker 8>need it real bad. Everything's great, looking forward to this interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Here here's the dumb question, Steve. I got to ask

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<v Speaker 3>you a work question. Who's on the show today?

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<v Speaker 8>Jennifer Lopez and uh Alan Richson and Gary Clark Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had a great musical guest yesterday. Who Brittany Howard? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I was okay. I was not at work yesterday. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't get mad at me, Brittany. I was not at

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<v Speaker 3>work yesterday. I had to take a day off. Things

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<v Speaker 3>were happening. Uh Fan Tickeola. What's what's good man?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm good, Man, I'm good. I'm excited to have Brittany

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<v Speaker 7>here today.

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<v Speaker 9>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't wait to talk about this new album.

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<v Speaker 4>Is hard Hard, got me sweating already.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait are you in California, Bill Sherman, No, I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean you're usually in the basement. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was thrown.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so I yeah, I'm not in Black Brazil. I

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<v Speaker 10>have a house in New Jersey and this is what

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<v Speaker 10>it looks like from the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, all right, that's that's what's up.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to teach Bill about light. You're supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>be in front of you.

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<v Speaker 10>I like being the shadows.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill's flexing of his windows structure actually made me think

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<v Speaker 3>he was on vacation somewhere, so I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 3>was just Jersey ladies and gentlemen. Our guest today as

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<v Speaker 3>well as everyone said pretty much, we've been waiting a

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<v Speaker 3>long time for this one, and it's finally happened. She

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<v Speaker 3>is a five time Grammy Award winner and she basically

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<v Speaker 3>pours her entire life experience into her songwriting, her music,

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<v Speaker 3>her production, and you know, she's just a starra within

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<v Speaker 3>Ah at the end of the word star. She's practically

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<v Speaker 3>worked with everyone named it, from Prince to Verrtine White

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<v Speaker 3>to Lemonoel, Miranda John Legend. The list goes completely on

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<v Speaker 3>and on and on. She has formed several successful bands,

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<v Speaker 3>including one of my favorite Alabama Shakes. Not to mention

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<v Speaker 3>she's here today to talk about her journey through life,

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<v Speaker 3>her journey through love and music and we're celebrating the

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<v Speaker 3>release of her sophomore album entitled What Now and Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>Brittany Howard.

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<v Speaker 2>Two quest lefsupre yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Sir us for having me, how to do crystal bowls

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<v Speaker 4>and Long.

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<v Speaker 6>Last, Long Last. Hey, everybody, good to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>At Long Last.

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<v Speaker 6>Where are you right now, britt I'm in the city.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm looking out the window Lower East Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously you're you're on the promotional run or you on

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<v Speaker 3>a an actual tour for your album.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing both at the same time. I'm on the

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<v Speaker 6>promo run, I'm doing tour. Yeah, that's what we'm I

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<v Speaker 6>here doing.

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<v Speaker 3>As Fante said, congratulations on the record, Like it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>really awesome to hear your artistic growth and and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just the risk that you're taking the album is incredible,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know all the atholatues that you're getting on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations are are in order. We we love this record.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I want to personally thank you for to be

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<v Speaker 7>still like and like, thank you for that record. It

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<v Speaker 7>is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a level envy I have when a person

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<v Speaker 3>releases a new record, maybe because I'm constipated ten years

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<v Speaker 3>and holding my own record hostitch. That was like everyone like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Gary Clark's records coming out, Fritz Records coming out,

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<v Speaker 3>We just had Kareem Bailey Ray, Like all these albums

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<v Speaker 3>are coming out and I'm like still holding my join hostage,

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<v Speaker 3>and like, so, what is the feeling you feel when

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<v Speaker 3>it's when it's over and you know it's ready?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you mean like when it comes out? How's

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<v Speaker 6>that foot?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, when you're done, Because for me, like albums

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<v Speaker 3>are almost like your kids, I hold this close to

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<v Speaker 3>the chest. I don't play demos for people. I don't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to hear a bit of that, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so anxious feel on letting it go. And then there's

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<v Speaker 3>a point where like whenever I always master a record,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe be like two weeks before it's really supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be turned in because I almost have to have a

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<v Speaker 3>morning process.

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<v Speaker 2>In literally letting your kids go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to know, do you go through that

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<v Speaker 3>or is this just like, hey, here are my twelve

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen songs and I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I feel like I understand where you're coming from.

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<v Speaker 6>But for me, it's kind of the opposite I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't wait to get this out in the world,

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<v Speaker 6>because you know how it isn't in this business. You

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<v Speaker 6>have to do the whole album cycle. You do the touring,

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<v Speaker 6>and you have to do the promo, and you do

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<v Speaker 6>all of this for this album. And it's like, as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as I finish the album, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 6>get it out. It's like a just station process and

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<v Speaker 6>what I imagine a very pregnant woman feels like it's

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<v Speaker 6>like I'm ready for this thing to get out of me,

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<v Speaker 6>you know it, so I can move on with my life.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's kind of what it's like. I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 6>of this project, but I'm also very excited to start

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<v Speaker 6>a new one as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Already.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a song cycle person or you an album

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<v Speaker 3>cycle person? Like do you just write enough songs for

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<v Speaker 3>the album to come or is it even as the

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<v Speaker 3>album is done, you already have songs in mustache or

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<v Speaker 3>still writing, like.

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<v Speaker 6>There's still something on the cutting room floor. I think

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<v Speaker 6>I still have like six or seven that didn't make

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<v Speaker 6>the album, and it was it was just because it

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<v Speaker 6>was taken too long. Like I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 6>I got enough here. I don't really want to spend

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<v Speaker 6>any more energy working these out. I'll do this later.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm definitely like an album cycle person like, as

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<v Speaker 6>soon as it feels like it, it has the feel done.

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<v Speaker 6>It has to feel cooked. And I feel like once

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<v Speaker 6>I have that feeling, it's just like an intuition thing,

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<v Speaker 6>then I'm like, Okay, hear this, this is it. Now

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<v Speaker 6>let's do the sequence.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh what was the period of time between knowing when

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<v Speaker 7>it was done, like just knowing like that feeling you

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<v Speaker 7>were talking about of like, Okay, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 7>is complete, it's cooked. The time between that and it

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<v Speaker 7>actually coming out out and being released.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, this time it was like ten months. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a long long y yeah yeah yeah yeah. Well

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<v Speaker 6>like post pandemic, things are still just taking a long

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<v Speaker 6>time to create because we like final we liked the

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<v Speaker 6>objects when listening to music, takes a long time to

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<v Speaker 6>print those things. Everything's just slower. So it took a

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<v Speaker 6>long time to get the whole shebang ready.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, if this was like a meal, then how long

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<v Speaker 5>was your meal prep and what was the preparation for

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<v Speaker 5>this album? In a sense that this this album is

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<v Speaker 5>going to say this, do you even do all of

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<v Speaker 5>that in your head.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't even think about that. It was just

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<v Speaker 6>I started this in March of twenty twenty, so that's

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<v Speaker 6>pretty much like shut down. And I didn't realize I

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<v Speaker 6>was making an album. I was just going and just

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<v Speaker 6>make like songs for fun because the world was terrifying

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<v Speaker 6>and we were all scared. So there's really nowhere it

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<v Speaker 6>turned to. So it's just like I used music as

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<v Speaker 6>my outlet once again. And when I was making this

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<v Speaker 6>album back in twenty twenty, I didn't know I was

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<v Speaker 6>making it. I was just like, it's a journal entries,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, And I told myself, I'm just going there

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<v Speaker 6>no matter what happens. It's okay, doesn't matter what it

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<v Speaker 6>sounds like, doesn't matter the quality of it. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>something to do. And so it's been cooking for such

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<v Speaker 6>a long time. The meal prep has been insane. I

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<v Speaker 6>had walked into the kitchen, cut vegetables, walked back out.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask you, how close to March thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty did you start the record.

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<v Speaker 6>So I had just finished a London tour, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>the UK tour flew from London, got to New York

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<v Speaker 6>City and we had a fallon lined up, and we

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<v Speaker 6>had different shows lined up we're going to do, and

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<v Speaker 6>I was just looking at the state of things. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, I don't think, no, this is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>So I actually flew home, what like on the twelfth

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<v Speaker 6>or the thirteenth, like I got to Nashville and then

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<v Speaker 6>things shut down, and I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I started tinkering with things maybe like a month later.

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<v Speaker 6>I just know, like I finished Tiger King. As soon

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<v Speaker 6>as I finished Tiger King around stuff to do, I

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<v Speaker 6>guess I'll go make music because I'm a musician.

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<v Speaker 7>What did you think of Joe exotic songs in Tiger King?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh shit, I thought.

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<v Speaker 6>That listen, But it wasn't even him right, It wasn't,

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<v Speaker 6>which makes it Richard. He just wanted to act it out.

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<v Speaker 6>What do I think about the songs honestly as a

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<v Speaker 6>body of work. As a body of work, I'm go

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<v Speaker 6>ahead and give it a six.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these albums that I'm hearing sort of

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<v Speaker 3>got their genesis or they're beginning in twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 3>they're just coming out now like four years later. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a coincidence that for a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of our art that we started creating in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty in sort of the midst of pannicing the

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<v Speaker 3>Apocalypse air quotes the Apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a coincidence. So I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 2>ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>How hard was it or what was your relationship to

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<v Speaker 3>creativity in the apocalypse, you know, because like people are

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<v Speaker 3>dying in real time, family members are getting sick in

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<v Speaker 3>real time, and like all these things are happening. But

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<v Speaker 3>for you, like, were you like foxinging or like and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean like more like July August when we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if we're coming or going.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean my relationship activity was definitely difficult. During

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<v Speaker 6>that time. I was seeing like friends, especially on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 6>just like having output output output output, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>believe it. I was like the last you know, kind

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<v Speaker 6>of where I was, Like I said, I was going

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<v Speaker 6>in and out of making little songs. And when I

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<v Speaker 6>say little songs, I mean they're like thirty seconds. They're

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<v Speaker 6>just little ideas. And I pushed myself to do that,

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<v Speaker 6>but honestly, it was like doing anything creative was a

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<v Speaker 6>survival mechanism for me, couldn't go anywhere, I couldn't see

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<v Speaker 6>my friends, was always concerned about getting sick, was concerned

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<v Speaker 6>what was going to happen next, because not only didn't

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<v Speaker 6>we have the pandemic, but back in Nashville, we had

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<v Speaker 6>just had a tornado that had kind of devastated the

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<v Speaker 6>area where I was living. Oh, And it was like

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<v Speaker 6>one thing after the other, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>like they didn't have roofs on their house, so people

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<v Speaker 6>trying to help each other out at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>It's an extremely stressful kind of like position to be in.

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<v Speaker 6>So to me, the creativity was my lifeline to any

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<v Speaker 6>normalcy whatsoever. And it wasn't like I needed to have output,

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<v Speaker 6>and it wasn't like I needed to make anything great.

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<v Speaker 6>It was just I just needed to have any type

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<v Speaker 6>of like control at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, another commonality in the pandemic was a pivot. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you discover another talent that you had in the pandemic? Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>that you didn't realize you had?

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I think you know, listen, I kind of rediscovered

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<v Speaker 6>my love for fishing. Me and my dad used to fish.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a little girl, and during that time, because

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<v Speaker 6>I lived I lived in the country I could just

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<v Speaker 6>go by myself and go fishing, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of got good at that. I guess if

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<v Speaker 6>you can if you can say you can get good

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<v Speaker 6>at fishing, yeah, got good at standing there, and.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got good patience. That's what that means, and a

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<v Speaker 4>good fishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Libra, Okay, Libra. Yeah, October October.

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<v Speaker 6>Second.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I was going, oh god, you're October.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, just like everybody you know, Wait a second.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't be friends. I'm sorry, there's no room in

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<v Speaker 3>the end. My life is sort of a arted with everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a result of post Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 4>Good math.

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<v Speaker 9>I you looked into that h every man drunk in

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<v Speaker 9>the year's Valentine's Day early literally last of September, early October.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you born?

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<v Speaker 6>I was born in Huntsville Hospital. That's Huntsville, Alabama. I

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<v Speaker 6>was raised in Athens, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that town like?

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<v Speaker 6>It's changed a lot now, but back on those littles,

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<v Speaker 6>lots of fields, cows, pastures. It's pretty flat where I live.

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<v Speaker 6>It's got tornadoes, lots of country people. We had good

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<v Speaker 6>diversity though, good diversities, lots of rich people, poor people,

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<v Speaker 6>black folks, white, folks, Mexican folks, all the folks.

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<v Speaker 2>You grew up on a farm or like a city escape.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm asking this because I have ties to Alabama, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to learn other parts of You.

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<v Speaker 6>Mentioned that to me before. Yeah, but where I'm from

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<v Speaker 6>is rural. It's pretty rural. I live way back off

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<v Speaker 6>the road in the woods, and I grew up like

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like in a farm setting. But also my father,

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<v Speaker 6>my father was he's a tow truck driver, and he

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<v Speaker 6>had a junk yard, so I kind of grew up

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<v Speaker 6>like amongst junk, like a junk yard aesthetic, and also

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<v Speaker 6>had like this beautiful animals running around.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you a learner or you know, did you

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<v Speaker 2>have a community of friends or.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just played with like there was like little boys,

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<v Speaker 6>like the neighborhood little boys, because I lived way back

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<v Speaker 6>in the country off the road, so they would literally

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<v Speaker 6>just drive their little tractors down to my house and

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<v Speaker 6>we would just play in the creek and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 6>Like it was like country country.

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<v Speaker 5>Yo.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it just me?

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<v Speaker 5>I just had this conversation with somebody the other day.

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<v Speaker 5>You just made me think of this tomboys. That's not

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<v Speaker 5>a term that's used anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>But than it was it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a tomboy.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, but I don't even know it's politically

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<v Speaker 5>correct anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't thought about it a long time. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>But I definitely was one of those, you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>like my you know, it's interesting like my upbringing, Like

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<v Speaker 6>my dad. You know, he's a car salesman and he did,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the toe jobs and stuff like that, so

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<v Speaker 6>he knew everybody in the community. So he would always

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<v Speaker 6>do like what we call horse trading, which is just

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<v Speaker 6>when you trade this for that. And I remember one

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<v Speaker 6>time he brought me home a pony, and I remember

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<v Speaker 6>being so excited about this pony. I was I only

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<v Speaker 6>girl on the street that had a little pony. And

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<v Speaker 6>the pony wasn't right in the head. So the pony

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<v Speaker 6>would like try to attack us and chase us and

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<v Speaker 6>bite us. It was eating meat. It was eating what

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<v Speaker 6>he was eating meats, It was eating birds.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, not your dream, my little pony.

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<v Speaker 6>No, it was not a dream. But all the kids

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<v Speaker 6>would come down and kind of check out the pony,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. Yeah, So that was my claim to family.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm going to ask you around the dumb questions

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<v Speaker 3>that I never asked a person that was anything close

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<v Speaker 3>to equestrian life, because I don't know that many people

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<v Speaker 3>that have owned horses or ponies or any of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hear this all the time, where like one

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<v Speaker 3>day I came home and my dad surprised me with

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<v Speaker 3>and usually a pony.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the.

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<v Speaker 3>General like maintenance of owning one of those things?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have a farm, now do I plan on owning?

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<v Speaker 3>And my farm actually comes with I have like a

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<v Speaker 3>barnyard that's a stable that can hold six of them

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<v Speaker 3>if I chose to own them right now?

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<v Speaker 2>It's for storage. But what's what's the daily care routine

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<v Speaker 2>for that?

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<v Speaker 6>The daily I mean honestly, like when it comes to

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<v Speaker 6>upkeep for a horse you're talking about, you gotta have

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<v Speaker 6>your like regular vet visits. You gotta keep up with

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<v Speaker 6>the vitamins.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, they take vitamins.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well it goes in the feed.

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<v Speaker 4>We all need nutrition.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm nturprised.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not I'm not looking at questrian person, you know

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think I know either when he said, but.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember what we used to do. You gotta take

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<v Speaker 6>care of hooks, You gotta take your care to coat.

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<v Speaker 6>When it's cold outside, you got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>everything's right for them. It's hot outside, you got to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure everything's right for them. Like I just did

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty high maintenance really, And they're also expensive, expensive creatures.

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<v Speaker 5>That you gotta buy it a trailer, a mere like,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're gonna take it to the bet.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta take it to the bet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just never understood like the casualness of friends

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<v Speaker 3>of mine's, like, yeah, I brought my kid a horse

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, but you know, I have anxiety trying to

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<v Speaker 3>consider should I get.

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<v Speaker 2>A dog or not, let alone.

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<v Speaker 10>Very different things.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I start with a dog, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even starting with it because I traveled too much.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I just generally wanted to know. And

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<v Speaker 3>the neighbors that I have on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 3>house they have horses. I go up and pet it,

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<v Speaker 3>and part of me thinks, like, oh, it's not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know that there's some real ship that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>So and Brittany ain't say if she kept the pony

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<v Speaker 5>until it turned into a horse, did you did you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the part I wanted to do at the point

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<v Speaker 2>works that's two different. Well, I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that. I thought that ponies were puppies to horses.

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<v Speaker 6>No, they their own thing, their own thing. Ponies do

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<v Speaker 6>not turn into worses.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait wait wait what they.

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<v Speaker 6>Do not turn into horses? Ponies is his own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And they stay that size.

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<v Speaker 6>They stay that size. Yeah they say that size, that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're kind of mean, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Ponies are not super nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Really attitudes.

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<v Speaker 6>All the ponies I met have attitudes.

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<v Speaker 5>Even the Shetland ones like real cutely, this is about

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<v Speaker 5>our enemy advertising.

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<v Speaker 7>National Geographic Request, Love Supreme and Brittany.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, dude, this this platform is more for me

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<v Speaker 3>to learn shit, more than their records already mentioned the record.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to learn about this shit. How long did

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<v Speaker 3>you keep the pony before it was like okay, no more?

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<v Speaker 6>Not long a trade, you know, we kind of traded things.

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<v Speaker 2>Up so like and that's just common, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>Common around where I'm from. Yet, and so we had

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<v Speaker 6>traded like we had a quarter horse at first, and

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<v Speaker 6>then we traded the the quarter horse is like it's

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<v Speaker 6>like twenty five years old, so like, I couldn't do

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<v Speaker 6>anything with it, so we traded it for the pony.

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<v Speaker 6>And the whole reason we got the pony because the

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 6>pony was meaning to bite you. So that traded the

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<v Speaker 6>pony for a gokart and then we were cool from

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<v Speaker 6>then on, No more horse. It's a good trade. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's this level of trading called again?

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<v Speaker 6>This is called horse trading?

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<v Speaker 10>Horse trading?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's the term I never heard before.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it a thing where like once a month

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<v Speaker 3>you take what you want to trade to a place

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<v Speaker 3>and you trade it or you just go to your

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor and be like, yo, what you want for this?

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<v Speaker 6>It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like I've been noticing that you have this in

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<v Speaker 6>your yard is a run. So I's like, well I

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<v Speaker 6>could run, I just ain't took it in. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I got this, I'll trade you this for that, and

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<v Speaker 6>then it's your job getting running. And then you take

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<v Speaker 6>that thing that now runs and trade it for something

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<v Speaker 6>else that you want. You know, you just trade up.

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. Now. Can you tell me what your

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<v Speaker 2>first musical memory was?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? Man. First musical memory. My grandmother had like one

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<v Speaker 6>of those big consoles that has like the eight track

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<v Speaker 6>player and the record player and the speakers built in.

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<v Speaker 6>And I remember being really young, maybe four, and messing

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<v Speaker 6>around with all the vinyl yes and pulling out some

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<v Speaker 6>of the albums and had them all on the floor,

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<v Speaker 6>and my Grandma's like, what you're doing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 6>don't break them and all this, and I remember her

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<v Speaker 6>putting on the Thriller out them. But I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 6>I remember hearing the speakers because it's like a tube system.

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 6>Remember them warm up, and then I could hear, you know,

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 6>songs of Thriller coming out of the speakers, and being like,

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 6>what the hell is this? You know, kind of kind

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 6>of amazed in the name of by the whole thing,

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 6>not just the music, but just all of it, you know,

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 6>the warmth of it coming on?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that your kind of I don't mean come to

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Jesus moment, but for you, was that like the moment

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 3>where it's like, Okay, well I want to also express

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 3>myself in this way through music or.

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<v Speaker 6>Nah, so no, not really, I mean I had that

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 6>kind of moment when I was eleven. I was in

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 6>middle school and in my middle school. I don't know

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 6>what if a grade eleven is fifth or sixth grade.

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 6>And there was a band from our school that had

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 6>rented out our gym and they were gonna put on

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 6>a show. And I remember all throughout the day everybody

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 6>was asking, are you gonna go to the show? You're

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 6>gonna go to the show? I was like, I don't know,

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 6>I'll see if I can get there. And so I

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 6>get to the gym and I'm by myself. I remember

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 6>being like super anxious because I don't really know anybody

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 6>at well. And the band plays and amusing them play

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 6>on stage and kids I went to school with. It

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 6>was like I didn't know these kids could do this.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 6>There were so talented. Look at the effects there having

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 6>on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew,

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 6>and it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen.

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 6>And it was in that moment standing in the gym

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 6>that I knew I wanted to be in a band,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 6>and I wanted to make my own music and I

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 6>wanted to be up there like they were, like. I

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 6>think that was a come to Jesus moment for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how long before you found other people that sort

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 3>of had a common love for music, Like was music

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>something that you kept close to the chest, or like how.

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Big was the music community down there?

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 6>It was a it was it was so small. I

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 6>had to teach people how to play music to be

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 6>in a band.

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 6>So I would go teach myself the instruments, and then

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 6>I would go back to school and I would just

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 6>try to find a kid with some sort of musical

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 6>talent like rhythm, and I'd be like, Okay, hey, do

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 6>you want to learn how to play bass guitar? Like

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 6>do you want learn how to play drums? And I

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 6>I would tutor them and see if that get to

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 6>a pointment where we could make music together. Some yes,

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 6>but a lot no, Like it just didn't happen. I

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:29.719
<v Speaker 6>was trying to make it happen. And it wasn't until

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 6>I was probably like sixteen years old that I finally

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 6>met some kids who also were interested in making music.

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 6>And that was Zach Zach Copple Bassis for Alabama Shakes.

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 6>And then he's Fogg who became a guitar player. And

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 6>it was them. So this whole thing really started from my.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 2>School was guitar.

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Your very first instrument of choice or did play other

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 3>instruments as well.

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 6>My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano, and

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 6>then drum a drummer heart and then basically yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 6>a lot of my yeah, a lot of the drums

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 6>on my new record. I programmed those drums. I'm not

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 6>saying I could play them like that, but I can

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 6>hear it, you know, and uh yeah. Then I learned bass,

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 6>and then I only learned guitar because I had to.

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 6>I didn't really want to play guitar, really, no, I

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 6>want to be in the rhythm section. I just one.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 6>I want to play bass.

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 4>What is the gap though?

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 5>Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 5>do this and you teaching folks that the music, Like,

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 5>how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet,

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 5>you just yeah.

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 6>So at firstly I didn't have those instruments like drums.

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 6>I could have access to drums because there were a

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 6>set of drums at our school, so I could go

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 6>play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar,

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 6>I would just borrow one from one of the rich kids, because, like,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't know what it was about school, Well, all

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 6>the rich kids had a bass guitar. Let me borrow it,

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, and let me borrow it. And so I

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 6>taught myself how to do that. And the guitar. My

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 6>sister had a guitar like tucked away back in the closets,

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 6>like one of those jcpenny guitars that looks like a

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 6>less Paul and it's like it's like one hundred and

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 6>fifty pounds. And that's what I learned on was that guitar.

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 6>So I was teaching myself.

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>How long did it take?

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I haven't mastered any of those instruments, right.

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 4>That's what we're doing.

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 6>Okay, no, no, no, no, no no. Honestly, I was just

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 6>learning as I went. So if I picked something up,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 6>I would make something with it. I would just learn

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 6>as I went. So from from the very beginning, I

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 6>wanted to make my own music. That was like the

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 6>whole goal. That was like the whole purpose. But when

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 6>I was originally learning, I had to learn other people's songs.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 6>So I just started with stuff that was easy, like

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 6>like Blink on a two, and I was like kind

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 6>of things like that that are pretty easy power chord stuff,

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 6>you know.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna ask you, am I the only one

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 2>that goes through this.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood, you're

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 3>thinking about your childhood too, but then you realize that

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 3>their childhood is actually your adulthood like childhood, and I'm like,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>wait a minute. I was thirty three years old when

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>that came.

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Out, like.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 6>Pretty, don't do the math, don't do the math.

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't do it.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Don't do it.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 6>It hurts.

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I give my feelings hurt.

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 3>I guess when we first played together was at the

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and we

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 3>were doing a tribute for Big Mama Thornton. In your childhood,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 3>was there did anyone ever put you onto her? Or

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 3>was it like later in life when you discovered her.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm for a so called music historian. I you know,

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I admit, and I'm ashamed of myth that. I was

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 3>probably in my mid forties before someone explained to me

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 3>who Big Mama Thornton was, even though like I've heard

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 3>hound Dog and all that stuff all my life, but.

0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 6>I remember doing his sister. Was that a tharp?

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Though? Oh my god, you know what you want to

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 2>edit that? Yes?

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, quest love makes mistakes. Yes, I had a brain fart.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 10>He was a historian questlove.

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>To know things. I'm sorry. I meant Sister Rose at

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>a thought.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, were you at all familiar with her in your

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 3>childhood or did that come to you later in life.

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 6>It definitely came to me later in life, maybe mid twenties.

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 6>Mid twenties is when I started getting curious about these

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 6>women blues players, right, And then I had started hearing about, well,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 6>there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 6>inspired of us Presley and had the electric guitar. And

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 6>someone told me about it because I played an SG

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 6>and they're like, oh, just like Sister was at a tharpe,

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 6>she also put a SG. She put an SG custom

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 6>in white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 6>of her. So I started looking into her stuff and

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 6>I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 6>guitar is so was unique. It's it's her voice on

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 6>that guitar. Nobody else is doing it. It's crazy, it's

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.959
<v Speaker 6>actually hard, it's hard to play how she's playing. And

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 6>so that's when I kind of started diving into her

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 6>stuff and in her story, which her story is really

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 6>interesting as well.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 3>In your childhood or in your teens. Who was your

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 3>north star by that point as far as like singing

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 3>was concerned, as far as like who's just like your

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>go to artists that you loved.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 6>In my teens, it was David Bowie. Wow. Yeah, because

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 6>it was like the Hole aesthetic and the songwriting was

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 6>like it had like a lot of different mixtures in it,

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 6>which I really liked. It had like some some show

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 6>tunes to it as well, you know what I mean.

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 6>Like I can hear his inspirations being like from Broadway,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 6>and then like also he was taking things like from

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 6>kabuki theater, and he was borrowing rhythms from R and

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 6>B and he was doing jazzy things, and it was

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 6>just fascinating to me. And I liked his voice. I

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 6>thought it was really interesting how I used his voice too.

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 6>He wasn't trying to be like a professional singer, technical singer.

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 6>It was just he was just like giving like he

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 6>was giving vignettes. He's giving like small scenes from a

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 6>movie or something every song. I thought that was cool.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 6>So I became obsessed with it, Okay, obsessed to what levels.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 6>I had everything I had, everything he had ever done.

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 4>You have Labyrinth yes, I was about I love it.

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, I was like, okay, what era of boy

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 7>is this?

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Early?

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 7>Is this eighty four?

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 5>Literally?

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I was listening to like ten Man, I was

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 6>listening to all of it. I didn't like it. I

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 6>listened to it.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was yeah, you know, it's weird, all right.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>So I worked in a record store eighty eight eighty

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>nine when the first tim in the album came out,

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and okay, so we traded in the record store for

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 3>the Internet. But if you hang out in a record

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 3>store long enough, you're going to meet two or three

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 3>know it all snobs that have their like unsolicited opinions

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 3>on stuff and suddening their opinions become your opinions. And

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>working in that record store and like think of Jack

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Black's character and uh yeah yeah, Like I had like

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 3>two of those guys, and you know, we had to

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>put the ten Men display up and all that stuff,

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 3>and they were just like, ah, man, this shit sucks.

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>And of course, you know, everyone wants you to go

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>back to when you know, your first seven years, when

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>you're blowing everyone's mind and when it was just your

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 3>secret before the world had you. And it's so weird

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 3>because I'm working on this doc right now, and Timmin's performance,

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I will say that if you really give and if

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you can find any of their performances online. And I

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know how much they did. I know they did

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 3>a few promotional shows and whatnot, but I would almost

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 3>say that tim Men was almost like a precursor to grunge. Yeah,

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if I can borrow from gen Z, it was.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>It was giving, it was given Soundgarden, it was giving

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 3>alls and chains, it was borderline. It was somewhere between

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 3>like early Smashing Pumpkins. And I know when we say grunge,

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you just automatically, non grunge hits will just think like,

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>oh smells like teen spirit, you.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Know, that sort of thing.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, yeah, like I realized that Oh Bowie's

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 3>fan base had the younger generation after the same thing

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 3>with Prince. If you remember that Prince got booed at

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>the Rolling Stones opening for the Rolling Stones back in

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>eighty one, Like baby boomers were not Prince's audience. Prince

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>was the older brother of gen X, So you know,

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>some three or four years later that audience is going

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 3>to grasp the print and yeah, it's it's weird that

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 3>even I would say that all Bowie fans should probably

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 3>revisit ten Man, or at least try to find them

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 3>in concert. It was actually awesome, Like if you're a

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 3>fan of grunge, I would say that they're the percursive

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>to that.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>So, but that's my opinion anyone else besides Bowie.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 6>Let's see started off pretty hard with David Bowie, and

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 6>then I found out about Pink Floyd. I hadn't heard

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 6>Pink Floyd before. I remember being like, oh, it's like fifteen,

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 6>riding in the back of my friend's car and she

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 6>starts playing it was the Dark Side of the Side

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 6>of the Moon. Yeah, yeah, And I was like, what

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 6>the hell is this? This is this is so many

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 6>different types of music. This is like jazz, this is

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 6>like I never heard any type of music like it.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 6>I remember hearing it in the back of a buckless sound.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 6>I remember hearing hearing it, and I remember getting so

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 6>excited because I didn't know you could do music like

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know you could take everything like that mix.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 2>It together without psychedelics.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 6>No psychadelics. I just I'm just getting ride home from school.

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that's what's said. Have you have you ever

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>done the Wizard of Oz test to it.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 6>No, I've never done that.

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about it?

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 6>I've heard about it.

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's up until maybe the end of Money.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It literally it really does if it's perfect, is.

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 4>The Wizard of is it?

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was pulled the Wall and not Dark.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Nah, A dark said on the third line where you're

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 3>supposed to start. You're supposed to start the record on

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 3>the third line, roar of MGM. And literally it plays

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 3>perfectly even when it turns into color.

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>That's when the.

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 3>Bells Money starts money and they start doing the dance

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff. And then towards the end it's like, okay,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>now he definitely did it up until money, I'll say

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 3>that much.

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever watched The Wall?

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I first saw The Wall in the like The

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Wall was the first pandemic film that I watched before

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 3>I started obsessing over Fantasia. And I don't know, man,

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I it's almost like we owe Roger an apology letter

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 3>because I know that, you know, for all intents and purposes,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 3>like we credit Michael Jackson for video innovation, but for

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 3>that thing to come out in nineteen seventy nine, which

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 3>is basically.

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much.

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you were to take like the fifteen

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 3>best videos you've seen on MTV for the first four years.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Like between eighty one and eighty five, then.

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I would say, like The Wall was all that in

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy nine and he just never truly got the credit.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Like again, I discovered The Wall in twenty two, like

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 3>long after after that effect, so I you know, I

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 3>highly recommend it.

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, yeah, when I was in high school,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 6>I was like a cult classic. If you had to

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 6>sit down and watch The Wall, we all knew it

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 6>was something special. And everybody was, you know, trying to

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 6>experiment with drugs and watch The Wall and we're at

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 6>a party the Walls on like that was like the

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 6>cool thing. You know.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I recommend it.

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, before twenty twenty, I really wasn't big on

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>drinking or psychedelics at all, like an occasional cookie or

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>a gummy of that sort of thing. But you know,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 3>most people said, like you'd experienced it outside. I'm I'm

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 3>still not an outside person. I want to be inside

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 3>when I do it because I don't know, fear of

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 3>control or whatever. But someone suggested to me to watch

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Fantasia and there's two Verds, there's Fantasia, and then Fantasia

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>two just came out in two thousand.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Without Psychedelics, you'll see something.

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 3>In that movie, but with it, Oh my god, there's

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 3>there's a it's a whole nother level of like.

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 2>I use that pretty much.

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I'd watch it like once maybe twice a week while

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 3>kind of making, and then after that I would get

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 3>ideas for Summer of Soul, like oh, want to do

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 3>this and that and this and that, and kind of

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>the panic level of Summer of Soul's editing. I would

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 3>say was really inspired just by like ideas I had

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 3>from doing that. Sometimes you have to get into someone

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>else's art in order to.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Create your own.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I want to ask, so, did you start Permuta Triangle

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 3>before the Alabama Shakes?

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>That was after Okay after, So Alabama Shakes was your

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 3>first first group?

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Can you talk about the formation of that?

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 6>So? I you know, I was. I was in high

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.439
<v Speaker 6>school and I have been looking for people to play

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 6>with and as seen a couple of guys in my

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 6>school that were interested in music, playing music, and they

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 6>were like dedicated to it. So I really wanted to them.

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 6>I was trying to figure out some younger than them,

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 6>and me being me, I was like, why would they

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 6>want to talk to me? Like I'm younger than them,

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 6>I look different than them. We don't travel in the

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 6>same groups. I don't know how I'm gonna have my end.

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 6>So I went made a little demo like by myself,

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 6>and I used to use like audacity, so it's like

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 6>super easy to record with sounded terrible back back in

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 6>the day, and so I brought him to a CD

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, hey, this is to Zach bass

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 6>player who later became the bass player of Alabama Shakes.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 6>I was like, hey, I made this music. I don't know.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:32.879
<v Speaker 6>I just wonder if you everyone to come like jam

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 6>on me sometime play music with me. Sometimes he was

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 6>like yeah, let's go listen to it. So we go

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 6>to the parking lot of high school, sitting in his

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 6>Honda chord. He plays it and he's like, oh, this

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 6>is cool. He's like, yeah, I'd like to like to

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 6>come over and play. So that's the spot when I

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 6>was like fifteen sixteen and me and Zach started playing

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 6>every day and we were learning how to play like

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 6>at the time, it was like prog rock. So we're

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 6>like doing Yes and King Crimson. We're like learning that

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 6>kind of stuff. This is new to me, but I'm

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 6>fascinated by it because it's all really technically different, cool stuff.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 6>And we started writing together and then we made a

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 6>demo and Heath, who later became a guitar player for

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 6>The Shakes, heard that and was like, I want y'all

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 6>to open, Like, can y'all open for my band? And

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 6>I was like, man, we don't even got a band.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 6>It's just like us. So we went down to the

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.440
<v Speaker 6>music store and the best drummer in town worked at

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 6>the music store. We only had one music store in town. Hey, man,

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 6>you wanna come play with us? He's like, I don't know.

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 6>We show him our demo. He's like, I'll check it out.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 6>Come by, I'll see what y'all about. So then we

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 6>started playing together and then we opened up for Heat's group,

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 6>and honestly, that's like, what did it? The first time

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 6>we played together, we knew that we had something, and

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 6>so we started them working on our own material and

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 6>that later became the Albama Shik's The Four of Us.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I got hip to you guys via Jack White.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>It was pretty much like, you know, screwing from the

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 3>mountaintops about you guys and whatnot? For you, did you

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 3>have any expectations of where this journey was going to

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 3>take you in terms of, like.

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm trying, from the time we started a band, which

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying we started a band when I probably had

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 6>just graduated high school two thousand and seven, I'd say, like,

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 6>that's really when we started playing our own shows with

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 6>our own music. And then I feel like whenever Boys

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 6>and Girls came out with like twenty twelve, eleven, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it wasn't that long, but we played all

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 6>the time, and we played for no money, and all

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 6>we did was get together Tuesdays and Thursdays and write

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 6>new music, write new music, write new music, work on

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 6>the set, work on the set. And to me, it

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 6>was just like miraculous that anything happened at all because

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 6>at a certain point I just I just like accepted

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 6>that I was going to be a male carrier. I

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 6>was going to deliver mail and I'll play music on

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 6>the side, and that was going to be my life.

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 6>I was okay with that.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask because I'm curious about band dynamics,

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>like anyone being a band or a unit. In know,

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 3>post millennial times, it's almost like as it's like aliens landing,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>because you know, pretty much life is built for the

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 3>solo artists post art post two thousand. When the band

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 3>is forming, is there a general agreement like of who

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>the leader is? Or is it like a thing where

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 3>it's like, okay, it's democracy and we all have a say,

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>or like how do.

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>You handle.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Banned decisions and whatnot? Like how do you how do

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>you deal with those dynamics?

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 6>For us, it was a democracy that's we honestly communicated

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 6>a lot why or why not we shouldn't do something right?

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 6>And the better you were and just talking about your

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 6>feelings usually the more.

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>What's that, the.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 6>More the more it will go your way because the better,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 6>the better you were, the better you were communicating why

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 6>you didn't want to do this. It was it was

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 6>almost like in a court of law, but it came

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 6>from an emotional place. I really don't want to do

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 6>this because X y Z, this is cheesy, this is that,

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 6>this is yeah. Yeah, you know, if you were quieter,

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 6>you didn't get as much as your wife because it's

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 6>like nobody's hearing what you have to say. But we

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 6>would all sit down and talk.

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, Okay, I would assume that their reception of

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 3>boys and girls was not overwhelming, but it was definitely,

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, to come out the gate. And I'm speaking

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 3>as a person that took four attempts to finally come

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 3>out the gate. What is it like on your debut

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to come out the gate and instantly become critical Dartlings

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 3>And what is that feeling?

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 6>Surreal? So absolutely surreal.

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 3>You described like the first moment when you realize like,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>oh shit, we're really going to be a thing.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I do. I do remember it. It popped in

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 6>my head as soon as you said I remember. It

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 6>was in Nashville on Broadway and there's like the Secret Club.

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I don't know anything about that life.

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 6>We had just got through playing the Blue Room with

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 6>Jack White. Jack White invited just to play his third

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.799
<v Speaker 6>Man records, and I was excited to meet Jack White

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 6>because I love the White stripes. And then if kings

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 6>Leon is there, and I at the time, like I

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 6>had like the first two records, loved kings Lynn and

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 6>they're coming up, They're coming up to me and they're like,

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, I think you're gonna make it, like all

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 6>this stuff, you know, and I'm like, these guys tell

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 6>me I'm gonna make it. And so I remember going

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 6>to the secret little bar after the show, and you know,

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 6>it was kind of fancy. I'd never been in that

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 6>environment before. And I remember there's a balcony outside. It

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 6>was me and the drummer, Steve, and I go out

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 6>there and and Steve were crying and I was like,

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.240
<v Speaker 6>I looked at him. I was like, why are you crying?

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 6>He was like, I just think I really think we're

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 6>gonna do something. And I was like, damn, you think so.

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 6>And then I started crying, and We're just out there

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 6>this emotional moment that's like, I can't believe this is

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 6>happening to us. It was just all of our circumstances.

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.760
<v Speaker 6>It was just like such a miracle happening in our lives.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 6>It was just like it's like a superman came in

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 6>to save you, you know, you.

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Huh yeah, yeah. It's like right on, so much of.

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 6>My life at the poverty line, and now I had

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 6>an opportunity for the first time ever, you know, And

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 6>that's what it felt like.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>You all collectively moved to Nashville or.

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 6>No, I was the first one to move to Nashville,

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 6>and that was later. It was like much later. Yeah,

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 6>I've say Nathan's for a long time.

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm being told that Nashville is pretty much the last

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 3>bashion of hope for the serious musician? Is it that

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 3>like every singer songwriter I know, especially now, like I

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 3>peeped one person's Instagram feed and suddenly, you know, like

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>when you peep one Instagram feed, your algorithms was suddenly

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize the staggering amount of songwriters and I

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.040
<v Speaker 3>just thought like, oh, it must be just country. No,

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 3>it's every musician is like I gotta go to Nashville

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 3>to make it the way that an actress is like

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I gotta go to Hollywood. What is it about Nashville

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 3>that just calls out not even a musician.

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>You what is it? What is it? For me?

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 6>It was a practical thing. Nashville Airport goes a lot

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 6>of different places. That's really all it was. And I had,

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, when I moved there initially, so I'm from

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 6>a small town. Nashville was kind of besides Birmingham, that

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 6>was the next biggest town. That's where you could go

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.479
<v Speaker 6>see the bands you want to see who go see

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 6>live music. So I was always going up there to

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.359
<v Speaker 6>go see bands, and so I made friends up there,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 6>so naturally I wanted to go to be where my

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 6>friends were. So that's how I ended up in Nashville.

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 6>But I stay in Nashville because it's practical, Like my

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 6>family's an hour and a half away, the airport's fifteen

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 6>minutes away. Now I have good friends in the city,

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 6>and that's I mean, I'm not gonna say I get

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 6>out there and watch a lot of music. I don't really,

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:00.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm kind of a home by.

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 3>I just want to say congratulations, Brittany Howard. You you've

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 3>continued a long tradition h quest love supreme antics where

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I will romanticize something and if you subject just takes

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 3>this and does this.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 4>But there is a beauty to Nashville. I've only lately.

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 5>I had never been there in my whole life up

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 5>until the last five years, because of the whole because

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 5>they have the Black Music Museum now in Nashville, which

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm on a small board for, but also witnessing like

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.919
<v Speaker 5>Black Americana and some of those bands and the rise

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 5>of like black folks claiming their country again.

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Is a beautiful it's beautiful.

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 6>It is it is beautiful. It is beautiful. And I

0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 6>do love that about Nashville, and I actually love the

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:46.840
<v Speaker 6>younger people that live there now in the music that

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 6>they're doing. It's actually really exciting. We got like house

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 6>clubs now. Well I don't know if I just say that,

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 6>but like we have house parties now.

0:47:55.680 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Brittany's my house music but actual house yeah, joint meaning or.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 6>Well, it's like, you know, everything they do is legal.

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm saying there.

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 3>And okay, no, no, no, I thought you in the house music,

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, a club culture is coming to Nashville.

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 6>No, that is what I'm saying. That's what that is

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying.

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, And.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 6>They get their own speaker systems together and it's cool.

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 6>It's like really cool. It's really lively. I'll go out.

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 6>I'll go to that, but not for long because I

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 6>like to sleep nowadays, but like I'll go for a

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 6>couple of hours, you know what I mean. And there's

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 6>that happening in Nashville. That's cool. And there's a part

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 6>of me that almost wants the gate keep it, to

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 6>keep it pure because Nashville. You have to keep in

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 6>mind it's also a tourist town, but we also have

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:37.439
<v Speaker 6>to live in a tourist town.

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't already coming colonizing your precious now.

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Amazon already moved to Nashville. Honey, it's official. It's it's gone.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.439
<v Speaker 6>It's over. It's over, Oracles living and it's over. It's over.

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 6>We got top golf, Hey, top golf?

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:53.399
<v Speaker 4>What you know about top golf?

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 2>A mere Yeah, I'm a human being? Like, yeah, I don't.

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>What do I know about top off?

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 9>Like you?

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 2>What a human being?

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 10>Do you know?

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 3>We'll invite every walk of life to a game night

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 3>like Doctor Game Night.

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 6>Of course.

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm from the bowling We used to do the Bowling twenty.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 4>You got to keep the go back at it.

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I will ask at its height, was there a moment

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 3>when and again my obsession with how people can create

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 3>and do bands together, the same questions I asked Fante

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 3>with Little Brother, is there a moment where it stops

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 3>being fun? Or you know when you when you released

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 3>your first solo record, I was like, uh oh, like

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 3>because often when people release a solo record, I'm hoping

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 3>that they realize that you can go off and do

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 3>separate projects, but you can always come back to home

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:57.959
<v Speaker 3>base and keep the brand alive, or keep my dream alive.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I won't say the dream, but.

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 3>You know you well, yeah, because I want to see

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 3>more bands in existence, so in your in a way

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>that you can express it without it being awkward. What

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 3>was the decision that led up to breaking up the band?

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 6>We have been working incredibly hard for a long number

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 6>of years, and it came to a point where people

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 6>got to go home and live their lives. But I

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 6>had never really got to live my life because I

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 6>was working on the next album, or I was doing this,

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.480
<v Speaker 6>I was doing that, and it's just like I was

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 6>just tired, just tired. And it was like a hard

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 6>decision because like those are my brothers, you know what

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, Like all of our lives experiences miracle. At

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:47.759
<v Speaker 6>the same time, we saw the world together and we

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 6>created beautiful things together. It's really difficult to choose myself,

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 6>I'll be honest. It's difficult to take care of my

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 6>own mental, spiritual, and emotional health. But there's a choice

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 6>I made because I wasn't enjoying creating. Nothing was coming

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 6>to me. I was just kind of tired of the

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 6>whole business. It was like I didn't even like music

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 6>no more, you know what I mean. It's just like

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 6>I think it was just overworked, and it was a

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 6>kind of situation where it's like even if I took

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 6>a break, I don't know if I would have come back,

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. It's nobody's fault. It's just conditional.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would think that would actually be more of

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 3>a business or more of a burden now that everything's

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 3>going to fall on you. Like I'm certain that as

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 3>a solo artist, yes, you could complete autonomy in terms

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 3>of how you sonically want stuff to sound, or songs

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 3>you want to do, or whatever control that it is

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 3>that you want to musically, how you want it to sound.

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 2>But I would figure that it's even more of a

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>burden that way. For you.

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Was it a matter of like song choices, what you

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do or how you wanted something to sound,

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 3>or arrangements or level of musicians and sip? Like, what

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>was it about being a soul artist that made you say, look,

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 3>this is the end of the road and I have

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 3>to do this now.

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 6>I think what you're saying is part of it. It's

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:15.359
<v Speaker 6>all kind of part of it. Wanting to hear what

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 6>it sounds like if I create something without anybody editing

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 6>it as part of it, Like what if I can

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 6>just do this on my own. What if I can

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 6>just write music like this on my own. I need

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 6>to write recipe, I need to write parts. I you know,

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 6>it's like it's just a freedom, a creative freedom, and

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 6>I thought life is short. I think it's worth giving

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 6>out a shot, giving that a chance to see what

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:36.880
<v Speaker 6>I can do with it. That's part of it. And

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 6>as far as like having a burden being a solo artist,

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 6>I just feel like there's not as much of a

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 6>burden as you would think, because at the end of

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 6>the day, when I don't want to do this anymore,

0:52:48.000 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 6>I'm not like having to affect other people's lives as

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 6>much as I was in the shakes. Like if I

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 6>said I don't want to tour this year, that's affecting

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 6>all of them. And what if I don't want to

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 6>go back out, that's affecting all of them all of

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 6>the time. So you're kind of tied together, you know

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying. And when when you're on your own,

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 6>it's like the ship sinks or the ship sales, like

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 6>and it's all up to me. So it's a different

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:14.440
<v Speaker 6>type of fulfillment, you know what I mean.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to know because you are you were an

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 3>intersectional and in a racial band, how hard is it

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 3>to get people to understand culturally where you're coming from

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.720
<v Speaker 3>when you're kind of a kind of alone but still

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 3>in a crowd of people, Like, is it easy to

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>explain things? Are they sensitive to these things? Or was

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.840
<v Speaker 3>it always a teachable lesson? And not even with your bandmates,

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:45.360
<v Speaker 3>but just as you guys are operating as a band.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.880
<v Speaker 6>I think that's a good question. It's like nothing we

0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 6>ever really had to talk about. It was just this

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 6>is me, this is my expression, this is how I

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 6>feel about this. We never had really have we never

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 6>really had to have conversations because by the time, like

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 6>when we were talking about the band, by the time

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 6>the band kind of concluded, we had all grown a

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 6>lot in a lot of different ways, and it kind

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 6>of got to the point where I was just like, well,

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't want any of my expressions to affect you

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 6>or vice versa. How I feel about something shouldn't affect you,

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 6>and how you feel about something should you know, it

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 6>started to become a little bit more like how do

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:30.080
<v Speaker 6>I say, like, uh, some of us were different, that's all. Yeah,

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.760
<v Speaker 6>we just grew into different people difference.

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 3>You worked on sound and color with one of my

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 3>favorite producers, Blake Mills.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 2>He describe what that process was like working with them.

0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:45.399
<v Speaker 6>Sure, yeah, there were there were some songs. So usually

0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 6>when I come to the studio, I have everything already

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.879
<v Speaker 6>demoed out, like how I wanted sound, and it don't

0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 6>sound good yet, but it's just the ideas there, and

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 6>I'll have all the parts laid out. And there was

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 6>a few songs I just couldn't seem to get finished.

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.359
<v Speaker 6>You know. Work with Blake was cool because we both

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 6>just put our heads together and tried to figure out

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 6>where we can take this thing. And one of the songs,

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:08.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, I had, like it's called it a song

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 6>called the Greatest and it was like a slow kind

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 6>of ballad thing. Yeah, and he was like, oh, just

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 6>beat it up. There you go. There was now it's

0:55:15.840 --> 0:55:17.399
<v Speaker 6>like this punk rock thing and it was really cool.

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.399
<v Speaker 6>It was like a it's like a Ramones type thing,

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 6>and I liked that. And then there was like obviously

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 6>getting the sounds and tones where we're working with a

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 6>shine everyy and we were all of us were like

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 6>a part of that process, especially like the mixing and

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 6>finding the different sounds. And then I think for like

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 6>the final song, finishing some of the lyrics to to

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.160
<v Speaker 6>think it was Gemini song, Gemini finishing lyrics to that,

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:46.880
<v Speaker 6>and and the process was like having Blake work with

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 6>you is like it's nice to have someone like a

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 6>light of fire underneath you and keep you on task

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 6>because I feel like sometimes as songwriters and musicians, having

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 6>an idea of finishing it is a whole it's a

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 6>whole thing. Yeah.

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Could you talk about what the process was like

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 3>producing your own records, like being in total control of

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 3>it and and kind of using that as you're not

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 3>soapbox or pool pit like that being your confessional kind

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 3>of project. Can you can you explain just the process

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 3>of making the Jamie record.

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was actually kind of a supernatural process, to

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 6>be honest with you. I went to to Panga in

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 6>a you know, it's like that mountain outside La and

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 6>it's got like the hip They said there's hippies there.

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 6>I didn't mean any, but I rented this house, and

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 6>I had like three songs and I knew that and

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:47.839
<v Speaker 6>three I think it was like three weeks a month.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:49.239
<v Speaker 6>I had to go into the studio and I had

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 6>to record, and I didn't have anything, and I wasn't

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 6>getting anything, Like I don't I don't smoke weed. I

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 6>like win by some weed. And I sat down and

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 6>I was like, I gotta I gotta connect with the muse.

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 6>I have to get inspired. I don't have anything. So

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 6>I called a psychic and the psychic was like, oh,

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 6>you already got She's like, you already got in bad,

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 6>the record's already done. I was like, what do you mean.

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 6>She's like, you already have the songs, you just got

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 6>to find them. I was like, this doesn't make any sense.

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 6>So now I'm miserable because I don't waste the money

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 6>on the psychic. But I have I have four songs.

0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 6>And I go to the studio and I tell Sean,

0:57:23.760 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, this is what I got. Let's get

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 6>the band in hair. Let's do this and maybe as

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 6>the days go by out I'll find time to create

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 6>some new ones. I don't know. As we would sit

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 6>down with the band have lunch, we'd have these conversations

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 6>and then they would just say like a particular word,

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 6>like one of the words was Jehovah's Witness, and I

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 6>had remembered right when they said it. Oh my god,

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 6>I have a project in logic called Jehovah's Witness. And

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:48.080
<v Speaker 6>it was cool because I've been named. I name my

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 6>projects like whatever, because I have to have to name

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 6>them before I can save them on my system. So

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 6>I had to get someone all the way back in

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 6>Nashville to send me in higher projects. And that's how

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 6>I got the album together. It would be every day

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 6>going in and someone would just say a phrase and

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 6>I'd be like, that's a song. Now I have the song, baby,

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 6>Now I have the song. GoAhead, and all these things

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 6>are getting pulled in and like it just came together

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 6>like that. It was crazy. It's like I did already

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 6>have them. So the psychic was right, like it was

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 6>technically correct.

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<v Speaker 3>What was the inspiration because actually, to be honest, I

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 3>forgot where I was, but I should zamed something I heard,

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 3>uh uh said the kid singing, and I she zammed

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 3>it and I realized I didn't. I didn't know at

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the time that you actually remixed the Jamie album or

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 3>had a slew of people from Ninth Wonder and Georgia

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 3>and and Bad Not Good and and uh I think, uh.

0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah Glover.

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Glover worked on a joint too, right, So I got

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 3>deep into that. What was what was the process of

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:07.080
<v Speaker 3>doing that? Because it was almost like a whole new album.

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean the process was like, first things first,

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 6>I just want to reach out to people whose music

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 6>and ideas I really respect. What if y'all wanted to

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 6>remix one of these songs real quick? What would it

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 6>sound like if you did it? And honestly, like everybody

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 6>was super excited to do it. And every time a

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 6>new song would come out and get so excited and

0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I'd run out to my car and I just sit

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 6>there and listen to him be blown away. Like Little

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 6>Dragon did some stuff, Fredigan did some stuff, Michael and

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 6>Nuka did some stuff, and just like people I've always

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 6>like kind of wanted to work with, and this is

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of an easy way to get to work together.

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 6>The overall is the song and the materials already there,

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 6>just rearrange it like how would you have done it?

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 6>And it was so interesting to listen to it was

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 6>it was so cool, such such a cool project.

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 5>It reminds me of like the Verve Remix projects like

0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 5>you just did their own album. Can I just ask

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 5>you talk about a lot of things self care wise

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<v Speaker 5>in this conversation. I'm curious how it's evolved now that

1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 5>you are by yourself and you have to figure out

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<v Speaker 5>all of these you know, it's just everything has changed

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<v Speaker 5>in the dynamic. Although you have this whole level, next

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:15.920
<v Speaker 5>level of freedom, you also have a next level of attention.

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<v Speaker 4>So what does that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, responsibility, Like Fonte said, like, so what does self

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<v Speaker 5>care on a daily look for you?

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<v Speaker 6>Look like for you on the daily? So I do meditation.

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<v Speaker 6>I do transdidal meditation. So I've been doing that for

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<v Speaker 6>I guess a couple of years. Yeah, helps, it helps

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<v Speaker 6>a lot. How much time?

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<v Speaker 4>How much time do you spend on it?

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<v Speaker 6>That's twenty minutes twice to day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's why I was late to this joint.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, excused, excuse?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that creates you know, it's amazing what it does.

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<v Speaker 6>Creates a lot of space in my life. I got

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<v Speaker 6>one of the minds. It runs all day and when

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 6>I lay down, don't want to stop running, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>So that that's really helpful and gives me patience for

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<v Speaker 6>anything that I come up against, me space for people

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<v Speaker 6>who love me and who I want to take care of,

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<v Speaker 6>helping me be a better performer because I'm not overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 6>not stressed out all the time, because you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>just can be very stressful.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anxiety performing?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't have anxiety performing, But you know, performing

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<v Speaker 6>to me is really it's the pinnacle of what I do.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I love making records, I also love performing, and

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<v Speaker 6>when I perform, I really I really do try my

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<v Speaker 6>best man and like it's just it's the point where

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<v Speaker 6>I get to be free, Like in my physical form,

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<v Speaker 6>I get to be free. Nobody can touch me, you

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<v Speaker 6>know what I'm saying, Like, this is my space, this

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<v Speaker 6>is my thing. We feel that, Yeah, And I just

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<v Speaker 6>I spend like when I'm on tour now, I just

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<v Speaker 6>spend all of my time making sure I'm ready for

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<v Speaker 6>that thing. You know, that's the most important thing when

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<v Speaker 6>I'm out here.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to ask you work on this new record

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<v Speaker 7>with a good buddy of mine, Nate Smith Nick. What's

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<v Speaker 7>it like collaborating with him? And how'd you guys meet

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<v Speaker 7>and start work.

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<v Speaker 6>So I love Nate. I'm a drummer at heart. I

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<v Speaker 6>love drummers, right, I've been I've been a fan of

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<v Speaker 6>you Quest for a very very long time, in a yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>very long time. And of course, and I had been started.

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<v Speaker 6>I started to see Nate and I started to see

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<v Speaker 6>the way he played, and I thought the way he

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<v Speaker 6>played was so interesting because so emotional. Of course it's

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<v Speaker 6>super technical, but there's also just so much feeling in

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<v Speaker 6>it when he's playing. And I started watching his videos

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<v Speaker 6>and I thought to myself before I made the album, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 6>if I'm going to get any drummer to play on this,

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<v Speaker 6>who would be? And I just because I had just

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<v Speaker 6>found him, and it just kind of broke off into

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<v Speaker 6>watching his videos. I was like, I'm just gonna ask them.

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<v Speaker 6>I's gonna ask Nate. Let's see if you'll do it.

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<v Speaker 6>And he said yes, came to the studio, we made

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<v Speaker 6>that album together, and then I was like, will you

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<v Speaker 6>go on the road with me? And I had to

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<v Speaker 6>a little convincing we know you did that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 6>They say yes, And now I get to play with

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<v Speaker 6>him like every night, all the time. He's just the

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<v Speaker 6>one just incredible, It's just incredible. Incredible. I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>the luckiest person I get to be on stage with

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<v Speaker 6>someone like a musician like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Does he only play three drums on the road? Think

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<v Speaker 10>he has a kick a stare in a high hat.

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<v Speaker 10>That's like it's ship, It's like the quest Love method.

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<v Speaker 10>It's like all you need?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 10>Does he does he have drums on the road?

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<v Speaker 6>Not? During my show we got him playing. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 6>got two kick drums, two toms. It's really bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Brittany, can I ask you about the visuals for

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<v Speaker 5>this this album, or at least for the first the single,

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<v Speaker 5>and tell me about Like I'm just curious too, because again,

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<v Speaker 5>you want your soul, you want your solo joints, So

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<v Speaker 5>tell me about what you just how it even came

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<v Speaker 5>to fruition and to the album cover, because what we're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing today is not how you perform as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a whole.

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<v Speaker 6>So for the visuals for the album cover, I really

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<v Speaker 6>I really like movies. I really like Japanese movies and

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<v Speaker 6>koreand movies, and I like kier Kursawa and Cursawa's got

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<v Speaker 6>this movie called Dream and I never hear people really

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<v Speaker 6>talking about it, but it's the most beautiful movie, and

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<v Speaker 6>the things he was trying in that film are incredible, colorful,

1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:12.520
<v Speaker 6>unique storylines. You kind of show up and you're supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to just know what's going on. It's like all this

1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:17.040
<v Speaker 6>like folklore, and at the same time he's weaving in

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<v Speaker 6>his own life story and it's all just very deep

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<v Speaker 6>and metaphorical. I was very inspired by that visual element,

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<v Speaker 6>like the visual elements from that film, and so when

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<v Speaker 6>I went to do my album cover, I wanted it

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<v Speaker 6>to feel kind of like a dream where it's like

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<v Speaker 6>you're sitting in a place that is seemingly like very

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful and very comfortable, but in truth, there's like a

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<v Speaker 6>storm in the background and there's rattlesnakes and the flowers

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<v Speaker 6>and it's twenty degrees outside. Because that was the reality.

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<v Speaker 6>The reality was that's not Ai. I woke up at

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<v Speaker 6>two twenty am to drive us to the mountains Ai Ai. No, No,

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<v Speaker 6>that's Ai. That's real, real, real, And then the video

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<v Speaker 6>and then the video for what Now. Yes, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 6>the song went Now it kind of reminds me of

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<v Speaker 6>like Michael Jackson. It kind of reminds me of like

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<v Speaker 6>this nostalgia from when I was a kid, like RoboCop,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, like like yeah, just like the vascilline

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<v Speaker 6>on the lens effect, Like so that's what I That's

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<v Speaker 6>what I wanted to give it. I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 6>it this kind of like matrix like Ninja like RoboCop,

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<v Speaker 6>like like just aesthetic to it because the.

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<v Speaker 4>Song to me, because you're hardly in it.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't like being I don't like being amge

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<v Speaker 6>videos takes to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart, like that's the Haerowsmith way.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's exhaustic.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be remiss if I didn't ask what was it

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<v Speaker 3>like to record at Sound and Porium For those that

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, Sound and Poorium in Nashville is like a

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<v Speaker 3>legend fucking dairy studio owned by RCA Records, Like all

1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the greats have recorded there. I was surprised it's still

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<v Speaker 3>up in operational running. And my big side of that

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<v Speaker 3>question is how did you wind up with Prince's board?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Sounding Poium is great, you know the first and

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<v Speaker 6>foremost I want to I want a real chamber, like

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<v Speaker 6>wherever I'm recording, they got one of those. I want

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<v Speaker 6>a big room because I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 6>position mics wherever I need to or if I have

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<v Speaker 6>like a binaural mic and to center room. I want

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<v Speaker 6>to be able to space things out as far as

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<v Speaker 6>I want to. If I want to throw my voice,

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<v Speaker 6>I can be in the corner room. I got plenty

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<v Speaker 6>of space to do this. Got plenty of space to

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<v Speaker 6>do whatever you want. So that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 6>I love about signing Porium. And they already got all

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<v Speaker 6>the gear you need. They got the tape machines. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>you're not calling in and bringing this stuff. They got

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of the They have a great board. I

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<v Speaker 6>think they just got like a They used to have

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<v Speaker 6>a need board, which I really really really like, but

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<v Speaker 6>now they got this API board. Is it's nice too.

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<v Speaker 6>It's good. I like it so Soundportum shot them out.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll keep going there as long as they'll have me.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it there. It's like home away from home

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<v Speaker 6>at this point. Nice Now when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 6>Princess console, yeah, it didn't belong to Prince himself. This

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<v Speaker 6>has been getting all over the world. It's like a

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<v Speaker 6>game of telephone. Chris so Prince. You know he recorded

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<v Speaker 6>his first album twice. Yeah, it was like in the

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<v Speaker 6>Bay Area. This board had been in Minneapolis, but the

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<v Speaker 6>MCI board. But the fella who hadn't wanted to take

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<v Speaker 6>it to the Bay Area with him, so he took

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<v Speaker 6>it from Minneapolis to like, I don't know, somewhere around

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<v Speaker 6>San Francisco. That album got recorded. The first time Prince

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<v Speaker 6>did it, he said didn't like it. You know, we

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<v Speaker 6>all know that story because the other musicians were playing.

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<v Speaker 6>So then he scrapped that and where he went and

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<v Speaker 6>recorded the actual album was a different board. So that's

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<v Speaker 6>that's just the providence of it. And the fella who

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<v Speaker 6>had took it to there then took it to Nashville,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's how it got in Nashville, and that's how

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<v Speaker 6>I got a hold of it. Of Course, when I

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<v Speaker 6>paid for it, I didn't buy it because it was

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<v Speaker 6>Prince's board. I just I just saw this like MCI

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<v Speaker 6>board with the MCI tape machine that comes together in

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<v Speaker 6>a moment, and I was like, yeah, I want that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's I forget the studio it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But when Jill Scott first moved to Nashville, Uh, we

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<v Speaker 3>shot the video for whatever the first single was of

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<v Speaker 3>her album in the studio and coincidentally, the API board

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<v Speaker 3>that recorded the Purple Raine record and subsequently around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>In the day Wow is also in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, Wow, why is Nashville becoming the.

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<v Speaker 2>Landing spot for all of princess gear?

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<v Speaker 6>So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever recorded Jack White studio or went there

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<v Speaker 2>or man?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Oh Third Man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the shiks that did some like singles over

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<v Speaker 6>there at Third Man, Okay, yeah, I also been to

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<v Speaker 6>his place he has he has a studio at his

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<v Speaker 6>place too one a long time ago, and did a

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<v Speaker 6>couple a couple of singles with him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>Pretty how much stuff like these days?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 10>Are you doing that digital based versus analog based? It

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<v Speaker 10>seems like you're just talking about about chambers and binormal

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<v Speaker 10>mic seems very analogy to me, but like some of

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<v Speaker 10>the sounds seem very digital. I don't know, like where

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<v Speaker 10>what do you do? Are you consciously like making decisions

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<v Speaker 10>based on my kind of thing is just kind of

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<v Speaker 10>all just all a bunch of paint and you're just

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<v Speaker 10>painting with.

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<v Speaker 2>All of it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I so when I start off doing my demos,

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<v Speaker 6>it's usually digital because it's handy. I can pull from

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<v Speaker 6>lots of different ideas. Really quickly, so I'll start there,

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<v Speaker 6>but I know ultimately I want to do something analog,

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<v Speaker 6>uh to me, and you know everybody has an opinion

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<v Speaker 6>about this, but to me, the analog is just more

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<v Speaker 6>fun because you can accidentally do shit with analog. That

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<v Speaker 6>is just because there's a wiring problem or this one

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<v Speaker 6>sounds different than that one. Why is that. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>like there's something to it. There's something in the wiring,

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<v Speaker 6>in the circuitry, in the tubes, and then putting everything

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<v Speaker 6>down the tape just kind of like a nice way

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<v Speaker 6>of smushing everything together. Just it's just like so like

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<v Speaker 6>it's such a it's such a small detail, but I

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<v Speaker 6>really do think I can feel and hear the difference,

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<v Speaker 6>and personally, when I'm making music is more fun. It's

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<v Speaker 6>just more fun.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Before we wrap up, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be intrusive, but you did bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you share with me what your mantra word is

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<v Speaker 2>in your team?

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<v Speaker 6>I can't, you know, I can't. I'm not gonna that word.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, So when you when you do TM,

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<v Speaker 3>like like meditation, okay, yeah, transit, yes, So all right.

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<v Speaker 3>When I first got introduced to meditation, of course, was

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<v Speaker 3>in the pandemic, and I felt the world's fucking coming

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<v Speaker 3>to an end. So I became like a meditation obsessive.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going about it all wrong, like I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing I would do like two hours to two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half hours in the morning before I get out

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<v Speaker 3>of bed of anything, DMT meditate like every type of

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<v Speaker 3>breath of fire, all that stuff, and then I do

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<v Speaker 3>an additional two hours before I go to bed. And

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<v Speaker 3>a friend was like, wait, you meditate four hours a day?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, how do you have that time?

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<v Speaker 2>I was the world's time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>All I had was DJing for five hours and work

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<v Speaker 3>a bid on Summer Soul. But I was doing nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, I need to keep my sanity.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to keep my sanity. And they were basically like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, that's cute, but you're doing it wrong and

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<v Speaker 3>you really and so he gave me a clip. Weird enough,

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry Seinfeld has a clip on YouTube of all people

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, and he's like, the key to my

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<v Speaker 3>success is tim trans meditation. And you know, I met

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<v Speaker 3>him maybe seven months later and I asked him about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, so, what did you mean the key

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<v Speaker 3>to your success? Yes, and He's like, well, we would

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<v Speaker 3>break for lunch on Seinfeld and instead of me going

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<v Speaker 3>to lunch them forty five minutes, I'll go to my

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<v Speaker 3>trailer and I'll do tam for like maybe ten to

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes always, and then I'll go about my day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, I don't get it ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I do four hours. And he started laughing, like you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it wrong. And so basically, there's a gentleman named

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Roth who I got put onto.

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<v Speaker 2>And what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that you're assigned a word and you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>keep that word unique to yourself. I've talked to some

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<v Speaker 3>people and you know we trade off words whatever, but yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to keep it to yourself, and you're basically

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to sit. So I sit in this office and

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<v Speaker 3>I sit in the dark, and pretty much you say,

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<v Speaker 3>you're your mantra or your chant.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember what's love got.

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<v Speaker 4>To do with it, I'm young holder and get killed right.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, or if you're a fan of what's happening now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, all right, I'm talking about what's happening. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even you know that's words. But some people

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<v Speaker 3>just sit in hum. Sometimes I get lazy and don't

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<v Speaker 3>do the chant and I'll just sit hmm. And what

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<v Speaker 3>it does is just basically, if you live a life

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<v Speaker 3>in which you gotta make panic decisions with seconds left

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<v Speaker 3>on the clock, Like I live in a constant state

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<v Speaker 3>of panic, where it's you know, I this guy deadline

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<v Speaker 3>and that deadline and where's your notes from da da

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<v Speaker 3>da da da, and you're ten minutes later here and

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. So sometimes you just gotta sit

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<v Speaker 3>for ten minutes in silence. It's it's what keeps your

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<v Speaker 3>sanity because if you don't do that, you're going to drink.

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<v Speaker 2>I need a drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I need something, you know, So I'd rather when I

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<v Speaker 3>get to the place. And you know, even though we

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<v Speaker 3>were talking before we started recording, I have probably one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most stressful nights of my life last night,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had to do therapy and TM like like old.

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<v Speaker 2>School of mirror, like an hour. So it's it's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that keeps you.

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<v Speaker 3>From making rash decisions that will affect the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>your life or unfortunately for some people in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that said, I actually want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, especially the way that the album is crafted

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<v Speaker 3>with the interludes and and you know, in the same

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<v Speaker 3>vein of is what Andre is doing with his project.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I love the fact that post pandemic times, we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting new versions of black artistry because oftentimes, like we're

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<v Speaker 3>very close to the chest when it comes to being

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable and letting our feelings out there and and sharing

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<v Speaker 3>with people. So yeah, congratulations on too, man, it's really inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>On Thank you for doing the show with us. Ritt,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, congratulations on freedom.

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate that. Thank thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>We can we can see it and hear it. On

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<v Speaker 5>you your freedom. It's awesome. I'm taking some of it,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that because I know, like this process of

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<v Speaker 3>people just probing into your life and all those things

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<v Speaker 3>is the part of the music viz. That is the

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<v Speaker 3>most uncomfortable where we just want to sing and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's good to give somebody their flowers. That's just

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<v Speaker 3>as uncomfortable as I am with taking it.

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<v Speaker 5>So and listen, and happy Women's History Month, because you're

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<v Speaker 5>always making history of my book.

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<v Speaker 4>This voice is historic.

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<v Speaker 6>And hey, thank you so much, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we havealf of fan Tigoelo Laya and Sugar

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<v Speaker 3>Steve and brand new Bill, that's right. I got to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a new day. I'm sorry, all right. We

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<v Speaker 3>got oh for Bill, brand new Bill and uh superior

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<v Speaker 3>superioris Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it Bill, Bill and Brittany done it. They

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<v Speaker 4>yalked on the street together.

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<v Speaker 10>Brittany on the street.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't been on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn. We got Brittany on the street.

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<v Speaker 4>It's perfect for the street.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, she's just perfect in general.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, I'll take that today. Hey, thank you,

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<v Speaker 6>thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So until the next time, ladies and gentlemen, this was

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<v Speaker 3>Quest Love Supreme. We'll see you on the next gogram.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme.

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