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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Up?

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Speaker 3: What's up with up? Ladies and gentlemen. This is Quest

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Speaker 3: Love Supreme. I'm your host Quest Love with Me Team Supreme. Like, yeah, hello,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 4: I am well excited.

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Speaker 2: Frank, I know right, long time coming, long time coming.

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Speaker 2: What's you up to? What's what's going on out there?

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Speaker 4: Right now? It is not raining, So that's a good thing,

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Speaker 4: and that's good.

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Speaker 3: It's been raining since. I mean I was there for

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Speaker 3: the noest flood of Grammy Knight. It's still been raining since.

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Speaker 5: I guess, so I wasn't. I left and went to

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Speaker 5: Brazils on Grammy Night. But I heard it has been

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Speaker 5: You heard that Flaws you gotta you gotta drop it.

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Speaker 4: I went to Salvador. I have a solid door.

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Speaker 2: So you know you went to Brazil for carnival.

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Speaker 4: For the best carnival? Yes, yes, flex is that? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: What once year?

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Give me your forty five second report?

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Speaker 4: I mean Salvador.

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Speaker 5: If anybody doesn't know about Salvador, Brazil is beautifully black.

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Speaker 5: It's the second largest black populated place outside of the continent,

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Speaker 5: so it has all the flavor in all of the

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Speaker 5: ways and.

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Speaker 4: Just a lot. It was just beautiful.

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Speaker 5: It was beautiful and fun and the food takes that

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Speaker 5: better there. Yeah, they say, just for you. So you

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Speaker 5: know the three different cities. You party in Rio and

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Speaker 5: the people in South Paolo work, so the people in

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Speaker 5: Rio can party.

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Speaker 4: And then yeah, the black folks are in Salvador.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't go to Rio or the other spots.

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Speaker 4: No, I was where you really want to be.

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Speaker 5: Literally, Amir, Salvador is the best place to go for carnival.

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Speaker 4: I said, it's where the black people are.

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Speaker 6: Who started it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, hey, I didn't know. I'm a product of the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia High School public curriculum.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but you're a world traveler.

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Speaker 2: I know. I just go to my hotel, eat my.

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Speaker 4: Iron We got them all. I would love to take

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Speaker 4: all your salad.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you gotta let us know next time you're going.

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Speaker 4: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,

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Speaker 4: you're right.

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Speaker 2: We got to go there to do the Author Vericai episode.

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Speaker 2: That's the Author Verkai. Yes, the Author Verica episode.

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Speaker 6: That's what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how you know I didn't get the

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Speaker 3: peap heids coyotes collaborative album with him.

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Speaker 2: Is it? Have you heard it or haven't listened yet?

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Speaker 7: I haven't listened yet either.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's up, Steve, what's going on? How's life great?

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Speaker 8: I'm currently imagining a vacation with La to Salvador. I

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Speaker 8: need it real bad. Everything's great, looking forward to this interview.

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Speaker 3: Here here's the dumb question, Steve. I got to ask

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Speaker 3: you a work question. Who's on the show today?

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Speaker 8: Jennifer Lopez and uh Alan Richson and Gary Clark Jr.

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Speaker 2: But we had a great musical guest yesterday. Who Brittany Howard? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I was okay. I was not at work yesterday. You

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Speaker 3: can't get mad at me, Brittany. I was not at

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Speaker 3: work yesterday. I had to take a day off. Things

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Speaker 3: were happening. Uh Fan Tickeola. What's what's good man?

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Speaker 7: I'm good, Man, I'm good. I'm excited to have Brittany

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Speaker 7: here today.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to talk about this new album.

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Speaker 4: Is hard Hard, got me sweating already.

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Speaker 3: Wait are you in California, Bill Sherman, No, I'm in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean you're usually in the basement. So I

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Speaker 2: was thrown.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I yeah, I'm not in Black Brazil. I

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Speaker 10: have a house in New Jersey and this is what

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Speaker 10: it looks like from the kitchen.

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Speaker 2: I see, all right, that's that's what's up.

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Speaker 5: We got to teach Bill about light. You're supposed to

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Speaker 10: I like being the shadows.

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Speaker 3: Bill's flexing of his windows structure actually made me think

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Speaker 3: he was on vacation somewhere, so I didn't realize that

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Speaker 3: was just Jersey ladies and gentlemen. Our guest today as

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Speaker 3: well as everyone said pretty much, we've been waiting a

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Speaker 3: long time for this one, and it's finally happened. She

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Speaker 3: is a five time Grammy Award winner and she basically

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Speaker 3: pours her entire life experience into her songwriting, her music,

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Speaker 3: her production, and you know, she's just a starra within

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Speaker 3: Ah at the end of the word star. She's practically

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Speaker 3: worked with everyone named it, from Prince to Verrtine White

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Speaker 3: to Lemonoel, Miranda John Legend. The list goes completely on

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Speaker 3: and on and on. She has formed several successful bands,

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Speaker 3: including one of my favorite Alabama Shakes. Not to mention

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Speaker 3: she's here today to talk about her journey through life,

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Speaker 3: her journey through love and music and we're celebrating the

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Speaker 3: release of her sophomore album entitled What Now and Welcome

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Speaker 3: Brittany Howard.

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Speaker 2: Two quest lefsupre yes.

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Speaker 4: Sir us for having me, how to do crystal bowls

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Speaker 4: and Long.

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Speaker 6: Last, Long Last. Hey, everybody, good to be here.

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Speaker 2: At Long Last.

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Speaker 6: Where are you right now, britt I'm in the city.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking out the window Lower East Side.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you're you're on the promotional run or you on

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Speaker 3: a an actual tour for your album.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing both at the same time. I'm on the

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Speaker 6: promo run, I'm doing tour. Yeah, that's what we'm I

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Speaker 3: As Fante said, congratulations on the record, Like it's it's

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Speaker 3: really awesome to hear your artistic growth and and you know,

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Speaker 3: just the risk that you're taking the album is incredible,

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Speaker 3: and you know all the atholatues that you're getting on it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations are are in order. We we love this record.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to personally thank you for to be

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Speaker 7: still like and like, thank you for that record. It

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Speaker 7: is beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a level envy I have when a person

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Speaker 3: releases a new record, maybe because I'm constipated ten years

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Speaker 3: and holding my own record hostitch. That was like everyone like,

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Speaker 3: you know, Gary Clark's records coming out, Fritz Records coming out,

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Speaker 3: We just had Kareem Bailey Ray, Like all these albums

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Speaker 3: are coming out and I'm like still holding my join hostage,

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Speaker 3: and like, so, what is the feeling you feel when

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Speaker 6: What do you mean like when it comes out? How's

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, when you're done, Because for me, like albums

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Speaker 3: the chest. I don't play demos for people. I don't say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you want to hear a bit of that, Like I'm

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Speaker 3: maybe be like two weeks before it's really supposed to

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Speaker 2: In literally letting your kids go.

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Speaker 3: And I want to know, do you go through that

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Speaker 3: or is this just like, hey, here are my twelve

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 6: But for me, it's kind of the opposite I'm like,

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to get this out in the world,

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Speaker 6: because you know how it isn't in this business. You

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Speaker 6: have to do the whole album cycle. You do the touring,

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Speaker 6: and you have to do the promo, and you do

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Speaker 6: all of this for this album. And it's like, as

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Speaker 6: soon as I finish the album, I can't wait to

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Speaker 6: get it out. It's like a just station process and

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Speaker 6: what I imagine a very pregnant woman feels like it's

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Speaker 6: like I'm ready for this thing to get out of me,

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Speaker 6: you know it, so I can move on with my life.

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Speaker 6: And it's kind of what it's like. I'm very proud

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Speaker 6: a new one as well.

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Speaker 5: Already.

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Speaker 3: Are you a song cycle person or you an album

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Speaker 3: cycle person? Like do you just write enough songs for

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Speaker 6: There's still something on the cutting room floor. I think

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Speaker 6: I still have like six or seven that didn't make

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Speaker 6: I got enough here. I don't really want to spend

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Speaker 6: And I'm definitely like an album cycle person like, as

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Speaker 6: soon as it feels like it, it has the feel done.

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Speaker 6: It has to feel cooked. And I feel like once

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Speaker 6: then I'm like, Okay, hear this, this is it. Now

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Speaker 6: let's do the sequence.

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Speaker 7: Oh what was the period of time between knowing when

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Speaker 7: is complete, it's cooked. The time between that and it

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Speaker 6: Sure, this time it was like ten months. Oh wow,

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Speaker 6: like post pandemic, things are still just taking a long

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Speaker 6: objects when listening to music, takes a long time to

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Speaker 6: print those things. Everything's just slower. So it took a

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Speaker 5: Really, if this was like a meal, then how long

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Speaker 5: this album? In a sense that this this album is

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Speaker 5: going to say this, do you even do all of

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Speaker 5: that in your head.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't even think about that. It was just

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Speaker 6: I started this in March of twenty twenty, so that's

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Speaker 6: pretty much like shut down. And I didn't realize I

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Speaker 6: and we were all scared. So there's really nowhere it

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Speaker 6: making it. I was just like, it's a journal entries,

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Speaker 6: you know, And I told myself, I'm just going there

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Speaker 6: no matter what happens. It's okay, doesn't matter what it

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Speaker 6: sounds like, doesn't matter the quality of it. It's just

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Speaker 6: something to do. And so it's been cooking for such

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Speaker 6: a long time. The meal prep has been insane. I

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Speaker 6: had walked into the kitchen, cut vegetables, walked back out.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, how close to March thirteenth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty did you start the record.

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Speaker 6: So I had just finished a London tour, I guess

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Speaker 6: I was just looking at the state of things. I

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Speaker 6: So I actually flew home, what like on the twelfth

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Speaker 7: What did you think of Joe exotic songs in Tiger King?

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Speaker 6: Man, I think you know, listen, I kind of rediscovered

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Speaker 4: She's got good patience. That's what that means, and a

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Speaker 2: Oh, Libra, Okay, Libra. Yeah, October October.

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Speaker 2: See, I was going, oh god, you're October.

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Speaker 4: Uh, just like everybody you know, Wait a second.

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Speaker 3: We can't be friends. I'm sorry, there's no room in

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Speaker 3: That's a result of post Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 4: Good math.

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Speaker 2: Where were you born?

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Speaker 6: I was born in Huntsville Hospital. That's Huntsville, Alabama. I

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Speaker 3: I'm asking this because I have ties to Alabama, so

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Speaker 6: Mentioned that to me before. Yeah, but where I'm from

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Speaker 6: So I just played with like there was like little boys,

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Speaker 6: Like it was like country country.

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Speaker 4: Is it just me?

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Speaker 5: I just had this conversation with somebody the other day.

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Speaker 5: You just made me think of this tomboys. That's not

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Speaker 6: But than it was it was.

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Speaker 4: I was a tomboy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, but I don't even know it's politically

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Speaker 6: I haven't thought about it a long time. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, not your dream, my little pony.

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Speaker 6: No, it was not a dream. But all the kids

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Speaker 3: And I hear this all the time, where like one

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Speaker 2: What is the.

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Speaker 3: General like maintenance of owning one of those things?

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Speaker 3: And my farm actually comes with I have like a

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Speaker 2: It's for storage. But what's what's the daily care routine

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Speaker 6: The daily I mean honestly, like when it comes to

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Speaker 6: the vitamins.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, they take vitamins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it goes in the feed.

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Speaker 4: We all need nutrition.

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Speaker 2: You knew this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm nturprised.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think I know either when he said, but.

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Speaker 6: I remember what we used to do. You gotta take

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Speaker 6: When it's cold outside, you got to make sure that

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Speaker 5: That you gotta buy it a trailer, a mere like,

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Speaker 4: You gotta take it to the bet.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just never understood like the casualness of friends

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Speaker 2: A dog or not, let alone.

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Speaker 10: Very different things.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I start with a dog, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even starting with it because I traveled too much.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I just generally wanted to know. And

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Speaker 5: So and Brittany ain't say if she kept the pony

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Speaker 2: That's the part I wanted to do at the point

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Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that ponies were puppies to horses.

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Speaker 6: No, they their own thing, their own thing. Ponies do

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Speaker 4: Wait wait wait what they.

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Speaker 6: Do not turn into horses? Ponies is his own thing.

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Speaker 2: And they stay that size.

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Speaker 6: They stay that size. Yeah they say that size, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and they're kind of mean, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: Ponies are not super nice.

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Speaker 2: Really attitudes.

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Speaker 6: All the ponies I met have attitudes.

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Speaker 5: Even the Shetland ones like real cutely, this is about

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Speaker 7: National Geographic Request, Love Supreme and Brittany.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, dude, this this platform is more for me

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Speaker 3: to learn shit, more than their records already mentioned the record.

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Speaker 3: I want to learn about this shit. How long did

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Speaker 3: you keep the pony before it was like okay, no more?

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Speaker 6: Not long a trade, you know, we kind of traded things.

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Speaker 2: Up so like and that's just common, that's.

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Speaker 6: Common around where I'm from. Yet, and so we had

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Speaker 6: And the whole reason we got the pony because the

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Speaker 6: This is called horse trading?

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Speaker 10: Horse trading?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the term I never heard before.

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Speaker 3: So is it a thing where like once a month

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Speaker 3: you take what you want to trade to a place

444
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: and you trade it or you just go to your

445
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 3: neighbor and be like, yo, what you want for this?

446
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 6: It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle.

447
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah.

448
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 6: It's like I've been noticing that you have this in

449
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 6: your yard is a run. So I's like, well I

450
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 6: could run, I just ain't took it in. It's like, well,

451
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 6: I got this, I'll trade you this for that, and

452
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 6: then it's your job getting running. And then you take

453
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 6: that thing that now runs and trade it for something

454
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 6: else that you want. You know, you just trade up.

455
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Speaker 2: I got it. Now. Can you tell me what your

456
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: first musical memory was?

457
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 6: Oh? Man. First musical memory. My grandmother had like one

458
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 6: of those big consoles that has like the eight track

459
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 6: player and the record player and the speakers built in.

460
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 6: And I remember being really young, maybe four, and messing

461
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,239
Speaker 6: around with all the vinyl yes and pulling out some

462
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 6: of the albums and had them all on the floor,

463
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 6: and my Grandma's like, what you're doing, you know, like

464
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 6: don't break them and all this, and I remember her

465
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 6: putting on the Thriller out them. But I remember hearing

466
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 6: I remember hearing the speakers because it's like a tube system.

467
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 6: Remember them warm up, and then I could hear, you know,

468
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 6: songs of Thriller coming out of the speakers, and being like,

469
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 6: what the hell is this? You know, kind of kind

470
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 6: of amazed in the name of by the whole thing,

471
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 6: not just the music, but just all of it, you know,

472
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 6: the warmth of it coming on?

473
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: Was that your kind of I don't mean come to

474
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: Jesus moment, but for you, was that like the moment

475
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, well I want to also express

476
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: myself in this way through music or.

477
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 6: Nah, so no, not really, I mean I had that

478
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 6: kind of moment when I was eleven. I was in

479
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 6: middle school and in my middle school. I don't know

480
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 6: what if a grade eleven is fifth or sixth grade.

481
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 6: And there was a band from our school that had

482
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 6: rented out our gym and they were gonna put on

483
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 6: a show. And I remember all throughout the day everybody

484
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 6: was asking, are you gonna go to the show? You're

485
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 6: gonna go to the show? I was like, I don't know,

486
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 6: I'll see if I can get there. And so I

487
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 6: get to the gym and I'm by myself. I remember

488
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 6: being like super anxious because I don't really know anybody

489
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 6: at well. And the band plays and amusing them play

490
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 6: on stage and kids I went to school with. It

491
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 6: was like I didn't know these kids could do this.

492
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 6: There were so talented. Look at the effects there having

493
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 6: on people. It was songs that I liked and I knew,

494
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 6: and it was like the coolest thing I had ever seen.

495
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 6: And it was in that moment standing in the gym

496
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 6: that I knew I wanted to be in a band,

497
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 6: and I wanted to make my own music and I

498
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 6: wanted to be up there like they were, like. I

499
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 6: think that was a come to Jesus moment for me.

500
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: Okay, how long before you found other people that sort

501
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: of had a common love for music, Like was music

502
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: something that you kept close to the chest, or like how.

503
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Big was the music community down there?

504
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 6: It was a it was it was so small. I

505
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 6: had to teach people how to play music to be

506
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 6: in a band.

507
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: Wow.

508
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 6: So I would go teach myself the instruments, and then

509
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 6: I would go back to school and I would just

510
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 6: try to find a kid with some sort of musical

511
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 6: talent like rhythm, and I'd be like, Okay, hey, do

512
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 6: you want to learn how to play bass guitar? Like

513
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: do you want learn how to play drums? And I

514
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 6: I would tutor them and see if that get to

515
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 6: a pointment where we could make music together. Some yes,

516
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 6: but a lot no, Like it just didn't happen. I

517
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 6: was trying to make it happen. And it wasn't until

518
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 6: I was probably like sixteen years old that I finally

519
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 6: met some kids who also were interested in making music.

520
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: And that was Zach Zach Copple Bassis for Alabama Shakes.

521
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 6: And then he's Fogg who became a guitar player. And

522
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 6: it was them. So this whole thing really started from my.

523
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: School was guitar.

524
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: Your very first instrument of choice or did play other

525
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: instruments as well.

526
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 6: My first instrument, I guess technically is like piano, and

527
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: then drum a drummer heart and then basically yeah, yeah, yeah,

528
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 6: a lot of my yeah, a lot of the drums

529
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 6: on my new record. I programmed those drums. I'm not

530
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 6: saying I could play them like that, but I can

531
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 6: hear it, you know, and uh yeah. Then I learned bass,

532
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 6: and then I only learned guitar because I had to.

533
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 6: I didn't really want to play guitar, really, no, I

534
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 6: want to be in the rhythm section. I just one.

535
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 6: I want to play bass.

536
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: What is the gap though?

537
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 5: Wait, the gap in between you knowing you wanted to

538
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: do this and you teaching folks that the music, Like,

539
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 5: how are you learning? You never kind of said that yet,

540
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 5: you just yeah.

541
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 6: So at firstly I didn't have those instruments like drums.

542
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: I could have access to drums because there were a

543
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 6: set of drums at our school, so I could go

544
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 6: play those drums after school. When it came to bass guitar,

545
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 6: I would just borrow one from one of the rich kids, because, like,

546
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 6: I don't know what it was about school, Well, all

547
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 6: the rich kids had a bass guitar. Let me borrow it,

548
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 6: you know, and let me borrow it. And so I

549
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: taught myself how to do that. And the guitar. My

550
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 6: sister had a guitar like tucked away back in the closets,

551
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 6: like one of those jcpenny guitars that looks like a

552
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 6: less Paul and it's like it's like one hundred and

553
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 6: fifty pounds. And that's what I learned on was that guitar.

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 6: So I was teaching myself.

555
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: How long did it take?

556
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I haven't mastered any of those instruments, right.

557
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: That's what we're doing.

558
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 6: Okay, no, no, no, no, no no. Honestly, I was just

559
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 6: learning as I went. So if I picked something up,

560
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 6: I would make something with it. I would just learn

561
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: as I went. So from from the very beginning, I

562
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 6: wanted to make my own music. That was like the

563
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 6: whole goal. That was like the whole purpose. But when

564
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 6: I was originally learning, I had to learn other people's songs.

565
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 6: So I just started with stuff that was easy, like

566
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 6: like Blink on a two, and I was like kind

567
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 6: of things like that that are pretty easy power chord stuff,

568
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: you know.

569
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you, am I the only one

570
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: that goes through this.

571
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 3: Like sometimes when we'll ask people about their childhood, you're

572
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: thinking about your childhood too, but then you realize that

573
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: their childhood is actually your adulthood like childhood, and I'm like,

574
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: wait a minute. I was thirty three years old when

575
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: that came.

576
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: Out, like.

577
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 6: Pretty, don't do the math, don't do the math.

578
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

579
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: Don't do it.

580
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 6: It hurts.

581
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: I give my feelings hurt.

582
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: I guess when we first played together was at the

583
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland and we

584
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: were doing a tribute for Big Mama Thornton. In your childhood,

585
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: was there did anyone ever put you onto her? Or

586
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: was it like later in life when you discovered her.

587
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm for a so called music historian. I you know,

588
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: I admit, and I'm ashamed of myth that. I was

589
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: probably in my mid forties before someone explained to me

590
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: who Big Mama Thornton was, even though like I've heard

591
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: hound Dog and all that stuff all my life, but.

592
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: I remember doing his sister. Was that a tharp?

593
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Though? Oh my god, you know what you want to

594
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: edit that? Yes?

595
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, quest love makes mistakes. Yes, I had a brain fart.

596
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

597
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 10: He was a historian questlove.

598
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: To know things. I'm sorry. I meant Sister Rose at

599
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: a thought.

600
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you at all familiar with her in your

601
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: childhood or did that come to you later in life.

602
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 6: It definitely came to me later in life, maybe mid twenties.

603
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: Mid twenties is when I started getting curious about these

604
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 6: women blues players, right, And then I had started hearing about, well,

605
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 6: there's this woman that kind of inspired Chuck Berry and

606
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 6: inspired of us Presley and had the electric guitar. And

607
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 6: someone told me about it because I played an SG

608
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 6: and they're like, oh, just like Sister was at a tharpe,

609
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 6: she also put a SG. She put an SG custom

610
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: in white. And I was like, oh, I've never heard

611
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: of her. So I started looking into her stuff and

612
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 6: I was like, the stuff she's actually playing on the

613
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: guitar is so was unique. It's it's her voice on

614
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 6: that guitar. Nobody else is doing it. It's crazy, it's

615
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 6: actually hard, it's hard to play how she's playing. And

616
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 6: so that's when I kind of started diving into her

617
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 6: stuff and in her story, which her story is really

618
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 6: interesting as well.

619
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: In your childhood or in your teens. Who was your

620
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: north star by that point as far as like singing

621
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: was concerned, as far as like who's just like your

622
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: go to artists that you loved.

623
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: In my teens, it was David Bowie. Wow. Yeah, because

624
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 6: it was like the Hole aesthetic and the songwriting was

625
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 6: like it had like a lot of different mixtures in it,

626
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: which I really liked. It had like some some show

627
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: tunes to it as well, you know what I mean.

628
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 6: Like I can hear his inspirations being like from Broadway,

629
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 6: and then like also he was taking things like from

630
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 6: kabuki theater, and he was borrowing rhythms from R and

631
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: B and he was doing jazzy things, and it was

632
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 6: just fascinating to me. And I liked his voice. I

633
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 6: thought it was really interesting how I used his voice too.

634
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 6: He wasn't trying to be like a professional singer, technical singer.

635
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: It was just he was just like giving like he

636
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 6: was giving vignettes. He's giving like small scenes from a

637
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 6: movie or something every song. I thought that was cool.

638
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 6: So I became obsessed with it, Okay, obsessed to what levels.

639
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 6: I had everything I had, everything he had ever done.

640
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: You have Labyrinth yes, I was about I love it.

641
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, I was like, okay, what era of boy

642
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 7: is this?

643
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: Early?

644
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 7: Is this eighty four?

645
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: Literally?

646
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: Oh, I was listening to like ten Man, I was

647
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 6: listening to all of it. I didn't like it. I

648
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 6: listened to it.

649
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah it was yeah, you know, it's weird, all right.

650
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: So I worked in a record store eighty eight eighty

651
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: nine when the first tim in the album came out,

652
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: and okay, so we traded in the record store for

653
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: the Internet. But if you hang out in a record

654
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: store long enough, you're going to meet two or three

655
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: know it all snobs that have their like unsolicited opinions

656
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: on stuff and suddening their opinions become your opinions. And

657
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: working in that record store and like think of Jack

658
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Black's character and uh yeah yeah, Like I had like

659
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: two of those guys, and you know, we had to

660
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: put the ten Men display up and all that stuff,

661
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: and they were just like, ah, man, this shit sucks.

662
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, everyone wants you to go

663
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: back to when you know, your first seven years, when

664
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: you're blowing everyone's mind and when it was just your

665
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: secret before the world had you. And it's so weird

666
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: because I'm working on this doc right now, and Timmin's performance,

667
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: I will say that if you really give and if

668
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: you can find any of their performances online. And I

669
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: don't know how much they did. I know they did

670
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: a few promotional shows and whatnot, but I would almost

671
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: say that tim Men was almost like a precursor to grunge. Yeah,

672
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if I can borrow from gen Z, it was.

673
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: It was giving, it was given Soundgarden, it was giving

674
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: alls and chains, it was borderline. It was somewhere between

675
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: like early Smashing Pumpkins. And I know when we say grunge,

676
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: you just automatically, non grunge hits will just think like,

677
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: oh smells like teen spirit, you.

678
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Know, that sort of thing.

679
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, like I realized that Oh Bowie's

680
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: fan base had the younger generation after the same thing

681
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: with Prince. If you remember that Prince got booed at

682
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones opening for the Rolling Stones back in

683
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: eighty one, Like baby boomers were not Prince's audience. Prince

684
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: was the older brother of gen X, So you know,

685
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: some three or four years later that audience is going

686
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: to grasp the print and yeah, it's it's weird that

687
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: even I would say that all Bowie fans should probably

688
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: revisit ten Man, or at least try to find them

689
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: in concert. It was actually awesome, Like if you're a

690
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: fan of grunge, I would say that they're the percursive

691
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: to that.

692
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: So, but that's my opinion anyone else besides Bowie.

693
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 6: Let's see started off pretty hard with David Bowie, and

694
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 6: then I found out about Pink Floyd. I hadn't heard

695
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 6: Pink Floyd before. I remember being like, oh, it's like fifteen,

696
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: riding in the back of my friend's car and she

697
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: starts playing it was the Dark Side of the Side

698
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 6: of the Moon. Yeah, yeah, And I was like, what

699
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 6: the hell is this? This is this is so many

700
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: different types of music. This is like jazz, this is

701
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 6: like I never heard any type of music like it.

702
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 6: I remember hearing it in the back of a buckless sound.

703
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 6: I remember hearing hearing it, and I remember getting so

704
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: excited because I didn't know you could do music like

705
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 6: I didn't know you could take everything like that mix.

706
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: It together without psychedelics.

707
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 6: No psychadelics. I just I'm just getting ride home from school.

708
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's what's said. Have you have you ever

709
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: done the Wizard of Oz test to it.

710
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 6: No, I've never done that.

711
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: Have you heard about it?

712
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: I've heard about it.

713
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up until maybe the end of Money.

714
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: It literally it really does if it's perfect, is.

715
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: The Wizard of is it?

716
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was pulled the Wall and not Dark.

717
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: Nah, A dark said on the third line where you're

718
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: supposed to start. You're supposed to start the record on

719
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: the third line, roar of MGM. And literally it plays

720
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: perfectly even when it turns into color.

721
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: That's when the.

722
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 3: Bells Money starts money and they start doing the dance

723
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. And then towards the end it's like, okay,

724
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: now he definitely did it up until money, I'll say

725
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: that much.

726
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched The Wall?

727
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

728
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I first saw The Wall in the like The

729
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: Wall was the first pandemic film that I watched before

730
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: I started obsessing over Fantasia. And I don't know, man,

731
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: I it's almost like we owe Roger an apology letter

732
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 3: because I know that, you know, for all intents and purposes,

733
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: like we credit Michael Jackson for video innovation, but for

734
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: that thing to come out in nineteen seventy nine, which

735
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: is basically.

736
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: Pretty much.

737
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: You know, if you were to take like the fifteen

738
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: best videos you've seen on MTV for the first four years.

739
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Like between eighty one and eighty five, then.

740
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: I would say, like The Wall was all that in

741
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine and he just never truly got the credit.

742
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: Like again, I discovered The Wall in twenty two, like

743
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: long after after that effect, so I you know, I

744
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: highly recommend it.

745
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: But I mean, yeah, when I was in high school,

746
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 6: I was like a cult classic. If you had to

747
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 6: sit down and watch The Wall, we all knew it

748
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 6: was something special. And everybody was, you know, trying to

749
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 6: experiment with drugs and watch The Wall and we're at

750
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: a party the Walls on like that was like the

751
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 6: cool thing. You know.

752
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: Yep, I recommend it.

753
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: You know, before twenty twenty, I really wasn't big on

754
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: drinking or psychedelics at all, like an occasional cookie or

755
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: a gummy of that sort of thing. But you know,

756
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: most people said, like you'd experienced it outside. I'm I'm

757
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: still not an outside person. I want to be inside

758
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: when I do it because I don't know, fear of

759
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 3: control or whatever. But someone suggested to me to watch

760
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: Fantasia and there's two Verds, there's Fantasia, and then Fantasia

761
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: two just came out in two thousand.

762
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: Without Psychedelics, you'll see something.

763
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: In that movie, but with it, Oh my god, there's

764
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: there's a it's a whole nother level of like.

765
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: I use that pretty much.

766
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: I'd watch it like once maybe twice a week while

767
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: kind of making, and then after that I would get

768
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: ideas for Summer of Soul, like oh, want to do

769
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: this and that and this and that, and kind of

770
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: the panic level of Summer of Soul's editing. I would

771
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: say was really inspired just by like ideas I had

772
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: from doing that. Sometimes you have to get into someone

773
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: else's art in order to.

774
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: Create your own.

775
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: I want to ask, so, did you start Permuta Triangle

776
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: before the Alabama Shakes?

777
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 6: No?

778
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: That was after Okay after, So Alabama Shakes was your

779
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: first first group?

780
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Can you talk about the formation of that?

781
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: So? I you know, I was. I was in high

782
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 6: school and I have been looking for people to play

783
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 6: with and as seen a couple of guys in my

784
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 6: school that were interested in music, playing music, and they

785
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 6: were like dedicated to it. So I really wanted to them.

786
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 6: I was trying to figure out some younger than them,

787
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 6: and me being me, I was like, why would they

788
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: want to talk to me? Like I'm younger than them,

789
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 6: I look different than them. We don't travel in the

790
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: same groups. I don't know how I'm gonna have my end.

791
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 6: So I went made a little demo like by myself,

792
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 6: and I used to use like audacity, so it's like

793
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 6: super easy to record with sounded terrible back back in

794
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 6: the day, and so I brought him to a CD

795
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 6: and I was like, hey, this is to Zach bass

796
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: player who later became the bass player of Alabama Shakes.

797
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, I made this music. I don't know.

798
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 6: I just wonder if you everyone to come like jam

799
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: on me sometime play music with me. Sometimes he was

800
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 6: like yeah, let's go listen to it. So we go

801
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 6: to the parking lot of high school, sitting in his

802
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 6: Honda chord. He plays it and he's like, oh, this

803
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: is cool. He's like, yeah, I'd like to like to

804
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 6: come over and play. So that's the spot when I

805
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 6: was like fifteen sixteen and me and Zach started playing

806
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 6: every day and we were learning how to play like

807
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 6: at the time, it was like prog rock. So we're

808
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: like doing Yes and King Crimson. We're like learning that

809
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. This is new to me, but I'm

810
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 6: fascinated by it because it's all really technically different, cool stuff.

811
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 6: And we started writing together and then we made a

812
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: demo and Heath, who later became a guitar player for

813
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 6: The Shakes, heard that and was like, I want y'all

814
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 6: to open, Like, can y'all open for my band? And

815
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 6: I was like, man, we don't even got a band.

816
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 6: It's just like us. So we went down to the

817
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 6: music store and the best drummer in town worked at

818
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 6: the music store. We only had one music store in town. Hey, man,

819
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: you wanna come play with us? He's like, I don't know.

820
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: We show him our demo. He's like, I'll check it out.

821
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: Come by, I'll see what y'all about. So then we

822
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 6: started playing together and then we opened up for Heat's group,

823
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 6: and honestly, that's like, what did it? The first time

824
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 6: we played together, we knew that we had something, and

825
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 6: so we started them working on our own material and

826
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: that later became the Albama Shik's The Four of Us.

827
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: I got hip to you guys via Jack White.

828
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: It was pretty much like, you know, screwing from the

829
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: mountaintops about you guys and whatnot? For you, did you

830
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: have any expectations of where this journey was going to

831
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: take you in terms of, like.

832
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: I'm trying, from the time we started a band, which

833
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying we started a band when I probably had

834
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 6: just graduated high school two thousand and seven, I'd say, like,

835
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 6: that's really when we started playing our own shows with

836
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 6: our own music. And then I feel like whenever Boys

837
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: and Girls came out with like twenty twelve, eleven, yeah, yeah, yeah,

838
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't that long, but we played all

839
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 6: the time, and we played for no money, and all

840
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 6: we did was get together Tuesdays and Thursdays and write

841
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 6: new music, write new music, write new music, work on

842
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 6: the set, work on the set. And to me, it

843
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 6: was just like miraculous that anything happened at all because

844
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 6: at a certain point I just I just like accepted

845
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 6: that I was going to be a male carrier. I

846
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: was going to deliver mail and I'll play music on

847
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: the side, and that was going to be my life.

848
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: I was okay with that.

849
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask because I'm curious about band dynamics,

850
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: like anyone being a band or a unit. In know,

851
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: post millennial times, it's almost like as it's like aliens landing,

852
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: because you know, pretty much life is built for the

853
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: solo artists post art post two thousand. When the band

854
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: is forming, is there a general agreement like of who

855
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: the leader is? Or is it like a thing where

856
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, it's democracy and we all have a say,

857
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: or like how do.

858
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: You handle.

859
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Banned decisions and whatnot? Like how do you how do

860
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: you deal with those dynamics?

861
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 6: For us, it was a democracy that's we honestly communicated

862
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: a lot why or why not we shouldn't do something right?

863
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: And the better you were and just talking about your

864
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: feelings usually the more.

865
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: What's that, the.

866
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 6: More the more it will go your way because the better,

867
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 6: the better you were, the better you were communicating why

868
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 6: you didn't want to do this. It was it was

869
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 6: almost like in a court of law, but it came

870
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 6: from an emotional place. I really don't want to do

871
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: this because X y Z, this is cheesy, this is that,

872
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 6: this is yeah. Yeah, you know, if you were quieter,

873
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 6: you didn't get as much as your wife because it's

874
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 6: like nobody's hearing what you have to say. But we

875
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 6: would all sit down and talk.

876
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I would assume that their reception of

877
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: boys and girls was not overwhelming, but it was definitely,

878
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, to come out the gate. And I'm speaking

879
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: as a person that took four attempts to finally come

880
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: out the gate. What is it like on your debut

881
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: to come out the gate and instantly become critical Dartlings

882
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: And what is that feeling?

883
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 6: Surreal? So absolutely surreal.

884
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: You described like the first moment when you realize like,

885
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: oh shit, we're really going to be a thing.

886
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. I do remember it. It popped in

887
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 6: my head as soon as you said I remember. It

888
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 6: was in Nashville on Broadway and there's like the Secret Club.

889
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know anything about that life.

890
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: We had just got through playing the Blue Room with

891
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 6: Jack White. Jack White invited just to play his third

892
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: Man records, and I was excited to meet Jack White

893
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 6: because I love the White stripes. And then if kings

894
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: Leon is there, and I at the time, like I

895
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 6: had like the first two records, loved kings Lynn and

896
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 6: they're coming up, They're coming up to me and they're like,

897
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 6: you know, I think you're gonna make it, like all

898
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 6: this stuff, you know, and I'm like, these guys tell

899
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 6: me I'm gonna make it. And so I remember going

900
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 6: to the secret little bar after the show, and you know,

901
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 6: it was kind of fancy. I'd never been in that

902
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 6: environment before. And I remember there's a balcony outside. It

903
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: was me and the drummer, Steve, and I go out

904
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 6: there and and Steve were crying and I was like,

905
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 6: I looked at him. I was like, why are you crying?

906
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: He was like, I just think I really think we're

907
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 6: gonna do something. And I was like, damn, you think so.

908
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 6: And then I started crying, and We're just out there

909
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 6: this emotional moment that's like, I can't believe this is

910
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 6: happening to us. It was just all of our circumstances.

911
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 6: It was just like such a miracle happening in our lives.

912
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 6: It was just like it's like a superman came in

913
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 6: to save you, you know, you.

914
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah. It's like right on, so much of.

915
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 6: My life at the poverty line, and now I had

916
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: an opportunity for the first time ever, you know, And

917
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 6: that's what it felt like.

918
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: You all collectively moved to Nashville or.

919
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 6: No, I was the first one to move to Nashville,

920
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 6: and that was later. It was like much later. Yeah,

921
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 6: I've say Nathan's for a long time.

922
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: I'm being told that Nashville is pretty much the last

923
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: bashion of hope for the serious musician? Is it that

924
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: like every singer songwriter I know, especially now, like I

925
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: peeped one person's Instagram feed and suddenly, you know, like

926
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: when you peep one Instagram feed, your algorithms was suddenly

927
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: I didn't realize the staggering amount of songwriters and I

928
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 3: just thought like, oh, it must be just country. No,

929
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: it's every musician is like I gotta go to Nashville

930
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: to make it the way that an actress is like

931
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: I gotta go to Hollywood. What is it about Nashville

932
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: that just calls out not even a musician.

933
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: You what is it? What is it? For me?

934
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 6: It was a practical thing. Nashville Airport goes a lot

935
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 6: of different places. That's really all it was. And I had,

936
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 6: you know, when I moved there initially, so I'm from

937
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: a small town. Nashville was kind of besides Birmingham, that

938
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 6: was the next biggest town. That's where you could go

939
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 6: see the bands you want to see who go see

940
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 6: live music. So I was always going up there to

941
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 6: go see bands, and so I made friends up there,

942
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 6: so naturally I wanted to go to be where my

943
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: friends were. So that's how I ended up in Nashville.

944
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 6: But I stay in Nashville because it's practical, Like my

945
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: family's an hour and a half away, the airport's fifteen

946
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: minutes away. Now I have good friends in the city,

947
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 6: and that's I mean, I'm not gonna say I get

948
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 6: out there and watch a lot of music. I don't really,

949
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 6: I'm kind of a home by.

950
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: I just want to say congratulations, Brittany Howard. You you've

951
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: continued a long tradition h quest love supreme antics where

952
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: I will romanticize something and if you subject just takes

953
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: this and does this.

954
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: But there is a beauty to Nashville. I've only lately.

955
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 5: I had never been there in my whole life up

956
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: until the last five years, because of the whole because

957
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: they have the Black Music Museum now in Nashville, which

958
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: I'm on a small board for, but also witnessing like

959
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 5: Black Americana and some of those bands and the rise

960
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 5: of like black folks claiming their country again.

961
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: Is a beautiful it's beautiful.

962
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 6: It is it is beautiful. It is beautiful. And I

963
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: do love that about Nashville, and I actually love the

964
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 6: younger people that live there now in the music that

965
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: they're doing. It's actually really exciting. We got like house

966
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 6: clubs now. Well I don't know if I just say that,

967
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 6: but like we have house parties now.

968
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Brittany's my house music but actual house yeah, joint meaning or.

969
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 6: Well, it's like, you know, everything they do is legal.

970
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying there.

971
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: And okay, no, no, no, I thought you in the house music,

972
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, a club culture is coming to Nashville.

973
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: I get it.

974
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 6: No, that is what I'm saying. That's what that is

975
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

976
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, And.

977
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 6: They get their own speaker systems together and it's cool.

978
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: It's like really cool. It's really lively. I'll go out.

979
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 6: I'll go to that, but not for long because I

980
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 6: like to sleep nowadays, but like I'll go for a

981
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 6: couple of hours, you know what I mean. And there's

982
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 6: that happening in Nashville. That's cool. And there's a part

983
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 6: of me that almost wants the gate keep it, to

984
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 6: keep it pure because Nashville. You have to keep in

985
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 6: mind it's also a tourist town, but we also have

986
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 6: to live in a tourist town.

987
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: You don't already coming colonizing your precious now.

988
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: Amazon already moved to Nashville. Honey, it's official. It's it's gone.

989
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 6: It's over. It's over, Oracles living and it's over. It's over.

990
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 6: We got top golf, Hey, top golf?

991
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 4: What you know about top golf?

992
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: A mere Yeah, I'm a human being? Like, yeah, I don't.

993
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: What do I know about top off?

994
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 9: Like you?

995
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: What a human being?

996
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 10: Do you know?

997
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: We'll invite every walk of life to a game night

998
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: like Doctor Game Night.

999
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 6: Of course.

1000
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm from the bowling We used to do the Bowling twenty.

1001
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: You got to keep the go back at it.

1002
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: I will ask at its height, was there a moment

1003
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: when and again my obsession with how people can create

1004
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: and do bands together, the same questions I asked Fante

1005
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: with Little Brother, is there a moment where it stops

1006
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: being fun? Or you know when you when you released

1007
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: your first solo record, I was like, uh oh, like

1008
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: because often when people release a solo record, I'm hoping

1009
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: that they realize that you can go off and do

1010
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: separate projects, but you can always come back to home

1011
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 3: base and keep the brand alive, or keep my dream alive.

1012
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: I won't say the dream, but.

1013
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: You know you well, yeah, because I want to see

1014
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: more bands in existence, so in your in a way

1015
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: that you can express it without it being awkward. What

1016
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: was the decision that led up to breaking up the band?

1017
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: We have been working incredibly hard for a long number

1018
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 6: of years, and it came to a point where people

1019
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: got to go home and live their lives. But I

1020
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 6: had never really got to live my life because I

1021
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: was working on the next album, or I was doing this,

1022
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 6: I was doing that, and it's just like I was

1023
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 6: just tired, just tired. And it was like a hard

1024
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 6: decision because like those are my brothers, you know what

1025
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like all of our lives experiences miracle. At

1026
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 6: the same time, we saw the world together and we

1027
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 6: created beautiful things together. It's really difficult to choose myself,

1028
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 6: I'll be honest. It's difficult to take care of my

1029
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 6: own mental, spiritual, and emotional health. But there's a choice

1030
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 6: I made because I wasn't enjoying creating. Nothing was coming

1031
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 6: to me. I was just kind of tired of the

1032
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 6: whole business. It was like I didn't even like music

1033
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 6: no more, you know what I mean. It's just like

1034
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 6: I think it was just overworked, and it was a

1035
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: kind of situation where it's like even if I took

1036
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: a break, I don't know if I would have come back,

1037
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's nobody's fault. It's just conditional.

1038
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think that would actually be more of

1039
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: a business or more of a burden now that everything's

1040
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: going to fall on you. Like I'm certain that as

1041
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: a solo artist, yes, you could complete autonomy in terms

1042
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: of how you sonically want stuff to sound, or songs

1043
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: you want to do, or whatever control that it is

1044
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: that you want to musically, how you want it to sound.

1045
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: But I would figure that it's even more of a

1046
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: burden that way. For you.

1047
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: Was it a matter of like song choices, what you

1048
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: wanted to do or how you wanted something to sound,

1049
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: or arrangements or level of musicians and sip? Like, what

1050
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: was it about being a soul artist that made you say, look,

1051
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: this is the end of the road and I have

1052
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: to do this now.

1053
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 6: I think what you're saying is part of it. It's

1054
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 6: all kind of part of it. Wanting to hear what

1055
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 6: it sounds like if I create something without anybody editing

1056
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 6: it as part of it, Like what if I can

1057
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 6: just do this on my own. What if I can

1058
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 6: just write music like this on my own. I need

1059
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 6: to write recipe, I need to write parts. I you know,

1060
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 6: it's like it's just a freedom, a creative freedom, and

1061
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 6: I thought life is short. I think it's worth giving

1062
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 6: out a shot, giving that a chance to see what

1063
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 6: I can do with it. That's part of it. And

1064
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 6: as far as like having a burden being a solo artist,

1065
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 6: I just feel like there's not as much of a

1066
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 6: burden as you would think, because at the end of

1067
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 6: the day, when I don't want to do this anymore,

1068
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 6: I'm not like having to affect other people's lives as

1069
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 6: much as I was in the shakes. Like if I

1070
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 6: said I don't want to tour this year, that's affecting

1071
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: all of them. And what if I don't want to

1072
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 6: go back out, that's affecting all of them all of

1073
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: the time. So you're kind of tied together, you know

1074
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And when when you're on your own,

1075
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 6: it's like the ship sinks or the ship sales, like

1076
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 6: and it's all up to me. So it's a different

1077
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 6: type of fulfillment, you know what I mean.

1078
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 3: I'd like to know because you are you were an

1079
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: intersectional and in a racial band, how hard is it

1080
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 3: to get people to understand culturally where you're coming from

1081
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 3: when you're kind of a kind of alone but still

1082
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: in a crowd of people, Like, is it easy to

1083
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 3: explain things? Are they sensitive to these things? Or was

1084
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: it always a teachable lesson? And not even with your bandmates,

1085
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: but just as you guys are operating as a band.

1086
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 6: I think that's a good question. It's like nothing we

1087
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 6: ever really had to talk about. It was just this

1088
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 6: is me, this is my expression, this is how I

1089
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 6: feel about this. We never had really have we never

1090
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 6: really had to have conversations because by the time, like

1091
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 6: when we were talking about the band, by the time

1092
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 6: the band kind of concluded, we had all grown a

1093
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 6: lot in a lot of different ways, and it kind

1094
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 6: of got to the point where I was just like, well,

1095
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: I don't want any of my expressions to affect you

1096
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 6: or vice versa. How I feel about something shouldn't affect you,

1097
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 6: and how you feel about something should you know, it

1098
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 6: started to become a little bit more like how do

1099
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 6: I say, like, uh, some of us were different, that's all. Yeah,

1100
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 6: we just grew into different people difference.

1101
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: You worked on sound and color with one of my

1102
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: favorite producers, Blake Mills.

1103
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: He describe what that process was like working with them.

1104
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, there were there were some songs. So usually

1105
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 6: when I come to the studio, I have everything already

1106
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 6: demoed out, like how I wanted sound, and it don't

1107
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 6: sound good yet, but it's just the ideas there, and

1108
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 6: I'll have all the parts laid out. And there was

1109
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 6: a few songs I just couldn't seem to get finished.

1110
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 6: You know. Work with Blake was cool because we both

1111
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 6: just put our heads together and tried to figure out

1112
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 6: where we can take this thing. And one of the songs,

1113
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 6: you know, I had, like it's called it a song

1114
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 6: called the Greatest and it was like a slow kind

1115
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: of ballad thing. Yeah, and he was like, oh, just

1116
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 6: beat it up. There you go. There was now it's

1117
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 6: like this punk rock thing and it was really cool.

1118
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 6: It was like a it's like a Ramones type thing,

1119
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 6: and I liked that. And then there was like obviously

1120
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 6: getting the sounds and tones where we're working with a

1121
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 6: shine everyy and we were all of us were like

1122
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: a part of that process, especially like the mixing and

1123
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 6: finding the different sounds. And then I think for like

1124
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 6: the final song, finishing some of the lyrics to to

1125
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 6: think it was Gemini song, Gemini finishing lyrics to that,

1126
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 6: and and the process was like having Blake work with

1127
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 6: you is like it's nice to have someone like a

1128
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 6: light of fire underneath you and keep you on task

1129
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 6: because I feel like sometimes as songwriters and musicians, having

1130
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 6: an idea of finishing it is a whole it's a

1131
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 6: whole thing. Yeah.

1132
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Could you talk about what the process was like

1133
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: producing your own records, like being in total control of

1134
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: it and and kind of using that as you're not

1135
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: soapbox or pool pit like that being your confessional kind

1136
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: of project. Can you can you explain just the process

1137
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: of making the Jamie record.

1138
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was actually kind of a supernatural process, to

1139
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 6: be honest with you. I went to to Panga in

1140
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 6: a you know, it's like that mountain outside La and

1141
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 6: it's got like the hip They said there's hippies there.

1142
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 6: I didn't mean any, but I rented this house, and

1143
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 6: I had like three songs and I knew that and

1144
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 6: three I think it was like three weeks a month.

1145
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 6: I had to go into the studio and I had

1146
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 6: to record, and I didn't have anything, and I wasn't

1147
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 6: getting anything, Like I don't I don't smoke weed. I

1148
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 6: like win by some weed. And I sat down and

1149
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 6: I was like, I gotta I gotta connect with the muse.

1150
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 6: I have to get inspired. I don't have anything. So

1151
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 6: I called a psychic and the psychic was like, oh,

1152
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 6: you already got She's like, you already got in bad,

1153
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 6: the record's already done. I was like, what do you mean.

1154
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 6: She's like, you already have the songs, you just got

1155
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 6: to find them. I was like, this doesn't make any sense.

1156
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 6: So now I'm miserable because I don't waste the money

1157
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 6: on the psychic. But I have I have four songs.

1158
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 6: And I go to the studio and I tell Sean,

1159
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 6: I don't know, this is what I got. Let's get

1160
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: the band in hair. Let's do this and maybe as

1161
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: the days go by out I'll find time to create

1162
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 6: some new ones. I don't know. As we would sit

1163
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 6: down with the band have lunch, we'd have these conversations

1164
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 6: and then they would just say like a particular word,

1165
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 6: like one of the words was Jehovah's Witness, and I

1166
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 6: had remembered right when they said it. Oh my god,

1167
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 6: I have a project in logic called Jehovah's Witness. And

1168
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 6: it was cool because I've been named. I name my

1169
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 6: projects like whatever, because I have to have to name

1170
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 6: them before I can save them on my system. So

1171
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: I had to get someone all the way back in

1172
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 6: Nashville to send me in higher projects. And that's how

1173
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 6: I got the album together. It would be every day

1174
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 6: going in and someone would just say a phrase and

1175
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 6: I'd be like, that's a song. Now I have the song, baby,

1176
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 6: Now I have the song. GoAhead, and all these things

1177
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 6: are getting pulled in and like it just came together

1178
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 6: like that. It was crazy. It's like I did already

1179
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 6: have them. So the psychic was right, like it was

1180
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 6: technically correct.

1181
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: What was the inspiration because actually, to be honest, I

1182
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: forgot where I was, but I should zamed something I heard,

1183
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: uh uh said the kid singing, and I she zammed

1184
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: it and I realized I didn't. I didn't know at

1185
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: the time that you actually remixed the Jamie album or

1186
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: had a slew of people from Ninth Wonder and Georgia

1187
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: and and Bad Not Good and and uh I think, uh.

1188
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah Glover.

1189
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: Glover worked on a joint too, right, So I got

1190
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: deep into that. What was what was the process of

1191
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 3: doing that? Because it was almost like a whole new album.

1192
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the process was like, first things first,

1193
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 6: I just want to reach out to people whose music

1194
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 6: and ideas I really respect. What if y'all wanted to

1195
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 6: remix one of these songs real quick? What would it

1196
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 6: sound like if you did it? And honestly, like everybody

1197
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: was super excited to do it. And every time a

1198
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 6: new song would come out and get so excited and

1199
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 6: I'd run out to my car and I just sit

1200
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 6: there and listen to him be blown away. Like Little

1201
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 6: Dragon did some stuff, Fredigan did some stuff, Michael and

1202
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 6: Nuka did some stuff, and just like people I've always

1203
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 6: like kind of wanted to work with, and this is

1204
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 6: kind of an easy way to get to work together.

1205
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 6: The overall is the song and the materials already there,

1206
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 6: just rearrange it like how would you have done it?

1207
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 6: And it was so interesting to listen to it was

1208
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 6: it was so cool, such such a cool project.

1209
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 5: It reminds me of like the Verve Remix projects like

1210
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 5: you just did their own album. Can I just ask

1211
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 5: you talk about a lot of things self care wise

1212
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: in this conversation. I'm curious how it's evolved now that

1213
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: you are by yourself and you have to figure out

1214
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: all of these you know, it's just everything has changed

1215
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 5: in the dynamic. Although you have this whole level, next

1216
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 5: level of freedom, you also have a next level of attention.

1217
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 4: So what does that?

1218
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, responsibility, Like Fonte said, like, so what does self

1219
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: care on a daily look for you?

1220
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 6: Look like for you on the daily? So I do meditation.

1221
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 6: I do transdidal meditation. So I've been doing that for

1222
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 6: I guess a couple of years. Yeah, helps, it helps

1223
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 6: a lot. How much time?

1224
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 4: How much time do you spend on it?

1225
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 6: That's twenty minutes twice to day.

1226
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: Yep, that's why I was late to this joint.

1227
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: Okay, excused, excuse?

1228
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 6: Well, that creates you know, it's amazing what it does.

1229
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 6: Creates a lot of space in my life. I got

1230
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 6: one of the minds. It runs all day and when

1231
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 6: I lay down, don't want to stop running, you know.

1232
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 6: So that that's really helpful and gives me patience for

1233
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 6: anything that I come up against, me space for people

1234
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 6: who love me and who I want to take care of,

1235
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 6: helping me be a better performer because I'm not overwhelmed,

1236
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 6: not stressed out all the time, because you know, it

1237
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 6: just can be very stressful.

1238
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: Do you have anxiety performing?

1239
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 6: No, I don't have anxiety performing, But you know, performing

1240
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 6: to me is really it's the pinnacle of what I do.

1241
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 6: Like I love making records, I also love performing, and

1242
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 6: when I perform, I really I really do try my

1243
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 6: best man and like it's just it's the point where

1244
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 6: I get to be free, Like in my physical form,

1245
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 6: I get to be free. Nobody can touch me, you

1246
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, this is my space, this

1247
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 6: is my thing. We feel that, Yeah, And I just

1248
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 6: I spend like when I'm on tour now, I just

1249
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: spend all of my time making sure I'm ready for

1250
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 6: that thing. You know, that's the most important thing when

1251
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 6: I'm out here.

1252
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 7: I want to ask you work on this new record

1253
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 7: with a good buddy of mine, Nate Smith Nick. What's

1254
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 7: it like collaborating with him? And how'd you guys meet

1255
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 7: and start work.

1256
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 6: So I love Nate. I'm a drummer at heart. I

1257
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 6: love drummers, right, I've been I've been a fan of

1258
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 6: you Quest for a very very long time, in a yeah,

1259
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 6: very long time. And of course, and I had been started.

1260
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 6: I started to see Nate and I started to see

1261
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 6: the way he played, and I thought the way he

1262
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 6: played was so interesting because so emotional. Of course it's

1263
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 6: super technical, but there's also just so much feeling in

1264
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 6: it when he's playing. And I started watching his videos

1265
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: and I thought to myself before I made the album, Jamie,

1266
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 6: if I'm going to get any drummer to play on this,

1267
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 6: who would be? And I just because I had just

1268
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 6: found him, and it just kind of broke off into

1269
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 6: watching his videos. I was like, I'm just gonna ask them.

1270
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 6: I's gonna ask Nate. Let's see if you'll do it.

1271
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 6: And he said yes, came to the studio, we made

1272
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 6: that album together, and then I was like, will you

1273
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 6: go on the road with me? And I had to

1274
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 6: a little convincing we know you did that.

1275
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 5: Well.

1276
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 6: They say yes, And now I get to play with

1277
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 6: him like every night, all the time. He's just the

1278
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 6: one just incredible, It's just incredible. Incredible. I feel like

1279
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 6: the luckiest person I get to be on stage with

1280
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 6: someone like a musician like that.

1281
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 10: Does he only play three drums on the road? Think

1282
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 10: he has a kick a stare in a high hat.

1283
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 10: That's like it's ship, It's like the quest Love method.

1284
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 10: It's like all you need?

1285
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: Right?

1286
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 10: Does he does he have drums on the road?

1287
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 6: Not? During my show we got him playing. Yeah, he

1288
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 6: got two kick drums, two toms. It's really bad.

1289
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brittany, can I ask you about the visuals for

1290
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: this this album, or at least for the first the single,

1291
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 5: and tell me about Like I'm just curious too, because again,

1292
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 5: you want your soul, you want your solo joints, So

1293
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 5: tell me about what you just how it even came

1294
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 5: to fruition and to the album cover, because what we're

1295
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 5: seeing today is not how you perform as well.

1296
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 4: It's like a whole.

1297
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: So for the visuals for the album cover, I really

1298
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 6: I really like movies. I really like Japanese movies and

1299
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 6: koreand movies, and I like kier Kursawa and Cursawa's got

1300
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 6: this movie called Dream and I never hear people really

1301
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 6: talking about it, but it's the most beautiful movie, and

1302
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 6: the things he was trying in that film are incredible, colorful,

1303
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 6: unique storylines. You kind of show up and you're supposed

1304
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 6: to just know what's going on. It's like all this

1305
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 6: like folklore, and at the same time he's weaving in

1306
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 6: his own life story and it's all just very deep

1307
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 6: and metaphorical. I was very inspired by that visual element,

1308
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 6: like the visual elements from that film, and so when

1309
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 6: I went to do my album cover, I wanted it

1310
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 6: to feel kind of like a dream where it's like

1311
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 6: you're sitting in a place that is seemingly like very

1312
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 6: beautiful and very comfortable, but in truth, there's like a

1313
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 6: storm in the background and there's rattlesnakes and the flowers

1314
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 6: and it's twenty degrees outside. Because that was the reality.

1315
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 6: The reality was that's not Ai. I woke up at

1316
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 6: two twenty am to drive us to the mountains Ai Ai. No, No,

1317
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 6: that's Ai. That's real, real, real, And then the video

1318
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: and then the video for what Now. Yes, Yeah, so

1319
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 6: the song went Now it kind of reminds me of

1320
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 6: like Michael Jackson. It kind of reminds me of like

1321
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 6: this nostalgia from when I was a kid, like RoboCop,

1322
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, like like yeah, just like the vascilline

1323
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 6: on the lens effect, Like so that's what I That's

1324
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 6: what I wanted to give it. I wanted to give

1325
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 6: it this kind of like matrix like Ninja like RoboCop,

1326
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 6: like like just aesthetic to it because the.

1327
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: Song to me, because you're hardly in it.

1328
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 6: No, I don't like being I don't like being amge

1329
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 6: videos takes to them.

1330
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: Smart, like that's the Haerowsmith way.

1331
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's exhaustic.

1332
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: I'd be remiss if I didn't ask what was it

1333
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: like to record at Sound and Porium For those that

1334
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: don't know, Sound and Poorium in Nashville is like a

1335
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: legend fucking dairy studio owned by RCA Records, Like all

1336
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: the greats have recorded there. I was surprised it's still

1337
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: up in operational running. And my big side of that

1338
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: question is how did you wind up with Prince's board?

1339
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 6: Yeah? Sounding Poium is great, you know the first and

1340
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 6: foremost I want to I want a real chamber, like

1341
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 6: wherever I'm recording, they got one of those. I want

1342
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 6: a big room because I want to be able to

1343
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 6: position mics wherever I need to or if I have

1344
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 6: like a binaural mic and to center room. I want

1345
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 6: to be able to space things out as far as

1346
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 6: I want to. If I want to throw my voice,

1347
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,479
Speaker 6: I can be in the corner room. I got plenty

1348
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 6: of space to do this. Got plenty of space to

1349
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 6: do whatever you want. So that's one of the things

1350
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: I love about signing Porium. And they already got all

1351
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 6: the gear you need. They got the tape machines. You know,

1352
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 6: you're not calling in and bringing this stuff. They got

1353
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 6: a lot of the They have a great board. I

1354
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 6: think they just got like a They used to have

1355
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 6: a need board, which I really really really like, but

1356
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 6: now they got this API board. Is it's nice too.

1357
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 6: It's good. I like it so Soundportum shot them out.

1358
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 6: I'll keep going there as long as they'll have me.

1359
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 6: I love it there. It's like home away from home

1360
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 6: at this point. Nice Now when it comes to the

1361
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 6: Princess console, yeah, it didn't belong to Prince himself. This

1362
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 6: has been getting all over the world. It's like a

1363
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 6: game of telephone. Chris so Prince. You know he recorded

1364
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 6: his first album twice. Yeah, it was like in the

1365
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 6: Bay Area. This board had been in Minneapolis, but the

1366
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 6: MCI board. But the fella who hadn't wanted to take

1367
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 6: it to the Bay Area with him, so he took

1368
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 6: it from Minneapolis to like, I don't know, somewhere around

1369
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 6: San Francisco. That album got recorded. The first time Prince

1370
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 6: did it, he said didn't like it. You know, we

1371
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 6: all know that story because the other musicians were playing.

1372
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 6: So then he scrapped that and where he went and

1373
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 6: recorded the actual album was a different board. So that's

1374
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 6: that's just the providence of it. And the fella who

1375
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 6: had took it to there then took it to Nashville,

1376
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 6: and that's how it got in Nashville, and that's how

1377
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 6: I got a hold of it. Of Course, when I

1378
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 6: paid for it, I didn't buy it because it was

1379
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 6: Prince's board. I just I just saw this like MCI

1380
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 6: board with the MCI tape machine that comes together in

1381
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 6: a moment, and I was like, yeah, I want that.

1382
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: There's I forget the studio it was.

1383
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 3: But when Jill Scott first moved to Nashville, Uh, we

1384
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: shot the video for whatever the first single was of

1385
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: her album in the studio and coincidentally, the API board

1386
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: that recorded the Purple Raine record and subsequently around the world.

1387
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: In the day Wow is also in Nashville.

1388
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, Wow, why is Nashville becoming the.

1389
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: Landing spot for all of princess gear?

1390
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 6: So it's interesting.

1391
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: Have you ever recorded Jack White studio or went there

1392
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: or man?

1393
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 6: Yeah? Oh Third Man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah,

1394
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 6: I think the shiks that did some like singles over

1395
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 6: there at Third Man, Okay, yeah, I also been to

1396
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: his place he has he has a studio at his

1397
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 6: place too one a long time ago, and did a

1398
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 6: couple a couple of singles with him. Yeah.

1399
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 10: Pretty how much stuff like these days?

1400
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: Is it?

1401
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 10: Are you doing that digital based versus analog based? It

1402
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 10: seems like you're just talking about about chambers and binormal

1403
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 10: mic seems very analogy to me, but like some of

1404
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 10: the sounds seem very digital. I don't know, like where

1405
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,879
Speaker 10: what do you do? Are you consciously like making decisions

1406
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 10: based on my kind of thing is just kind of

1407
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 10: all just all a bunch of paint and you're just

1408
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 10: painting with.

1409
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: All of it.

1410
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: So I so when I start off doing my demos,

1411
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 6: it's usually digital because it's handy. I can pull from

1412
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 6: lots of different ideas. Really quickly, so I'll start there,

1413
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 6: but I know ultimately I want to do something analog,

1414
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 6: uh to me, and you know everybody has an opinion

1415
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 6: about this, but to me, the analog is just more

1416
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 6: fun because you can accidentally do shit with analog. That

1417
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 6: is just because there's a wiring problem or this one

1418
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 6: sounds different than that one. Why is that. It's just

1419
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 6: like there's something to it. There's something in the wiring,

1420
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 6: in the circuitry, in the tubes, and then putting everything

1421
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 6: down the tape just kind of like a nice way

1422
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 6: of smushing everything together. Just it's just like so like

1423
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 6: it's such a it's such a small detail, but I

1424
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 6: really do think I can feel and hear the difference,

1425
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 6: and personally, when I'm making music is more fun. It's

1426
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 6: just more fun.

1427
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 3: All right, Before we wrap up, I don't want to

1428
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: be intrusive, but you did bring it up.

1429
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: Can you share with me what your mantra word is

1430
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: in your team?

1431
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 6: I can't, you know, I can't. I'm not gonna that word.

1432
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So when you when you do TM,

1433
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: like like meditation, okay, yeah, transit, yes, So all right.

1434
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: When I first got introduced to meditation, of course, was

1435
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: in the pandemic, and I felt the world's fucking coming

1436
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,440
Speaker 3: to an end. So I became like a meditation obsessive.

1437
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: I was going about it all wrong, like I was

1438
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: doing I would do like two hours to two and

1439
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: a half hours in the morning before I get out

1440
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: of bed of anything, DMT meditate like every type of

1441
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 3: breath of fire, all that stuff, and then I do

1442
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 3: an additional two hours before I go to bed. And

1443
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: a friend was like, wait, you meditate four hours a day?

1444
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, how do you have that time?

1445
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: I was the world's time. Yeah.

1446
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: All I had was DJing for five hours and work

1447
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: a bid on Summer Soul. But I was doing nothing,

1448
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 3: and I was just like, I need to keep my sanity.

1449
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: I need to keep my sanity. And they were basically like,

1450
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 3: all right, that's cute, but you're doing it wrong and

1451
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 3: you really and so he gave me a clip. Weird enough,

1452
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: Jerry Seinfeld has a clip on YouTube of all people

1453
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: in the world, and he's like, the key to my

1454
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: success is tim trans meditation. And you know, I met

1455
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: him maybe seven months later and I asked him about it.

1456
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: I was like, so, what did you mean the key

1457
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: to your success? Yes, and He's like, well, we would

1458
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 3: break for lunch on Seinfeld and instead of me going

1459
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: to lunch them forty five minutes, I'll go to my

1460
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: trailer and I'll do tam for like maybe ten to

1461
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes always, and then I'll go about my day.

1462
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I don't get it ten minutes.

1463
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: I do four hours. And he started laughing, like you're

1464
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: doing it wrong. And so basically, there's a gentleman named

1465
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,440
Speaker 3: Bob Roth who I got put onto.

1466
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: And what it is.

1467
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: Is that you're assigned a word and you're supposed to

1468
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: keep that word unique to yourself. I've talked to some

1469
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: people and you know we trade off words whatever, but yes,

1470
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 3: you're supposed to keep it to yourself, and you're basically

1471
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: supposed to sit. So I sit in this office and

1472
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: I sit in the dark, and pretty much you say,

1473
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: you're your mantra or your chant.

1474
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: If you remember what's love got.

1475
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 4: To do with it, I'm young holder and get killed right.

1476
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, or if you're a fan of what's happening now,

1477
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, all right, I'm talking about what's happening. But yeah,

1478
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean, even you know that's words. But some people

1479
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: just sit in hum. Sometimes I get lazy and don't

1480
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 3: do the chant and I'll just sit hmm. And what

1481
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: it does is just basically, if you live a life

1482
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: in which you gotta make panic decisions with seconds left

1483
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: on the clock, Like I live in a constant state

1484
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: of panic, where it's you know, I this guy deadline

1485
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: and that deadline and where's your notes from da da

1486
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 3: da da da, and you're ten minutes later here and

1487
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So sometimes you just gotta sit

1488
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: for ten minutes in silence. It's it's what keeps your

1489
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: sanity because if you don't do that, you're going to drink.

1490
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 2: I need a drink.

1491
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 3: I need something, you know, So I'd rather when I

1492
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 3: get to the place. And you know, even though we

1493
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 3: were talking before we started recording, I have probably one

1494
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: of the most stressful nights of my life last night,

1495
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,879
Speaker 3: so I had to do therapy and TM like like old.

1496
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: School of mirror, like an hour. So it's it's the

1497
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: thing that keeps you.

1498
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: From making rash decisions that will affect the rest of

1499
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: your life or unfortunately for some people in their life.

1500
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: So with that said, I actually want to, you know,

1501
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: thank you, especially the way that the album is crafted

1502
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: with the interludes and and you know, in the same

1503
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: vein of is what Andre is doing with his project.

1504
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 3: Like I love the fact that post pandemic times, we're

1505
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: getting new versions of black artistry because oftentimes, like we're

1506
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: very close to the chest when it comes to being

1507
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 3: vulnerable and letting our feelings out there and and sharing

1508
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 3: with people. So yeah, congratulations on too, man, it's really inspiration.

1509
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: On Thank you for doing the show with us. Ritt,

1510
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

1511
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations on freedom.

1512
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 6: Appreciate that. Thank thank you.

1513
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 5: We can we can see it and hear it. On

1514
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 5: you your freedom. It's awesome. I'm taking some of it,

1515
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: thank you, and.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that because I know, like this process of

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Speaker 3: people just probing into your life and all those things

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Speaker 3: is the part of the music viz. That is the

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Speaker 3: most uncomfortable where we just want to sing and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: But thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's it's good to give somebody their flowers. That's just

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Speaker 3: as uncomfortable as I am with taking it.

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Speaker 5: So and listen, and happy Women's History Month, because you're

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Speaker 5: always making history of my book.

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Speaker 4: This voice is historic.

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Speaker 6: And hey, thank you so much, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: So when we havealf of fan Tigoelo Laya and Sugar

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Speaker 3: Steve and brand new Bill, that's right. I got to

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Speaker 3: give you a new day. I'm sorry, all right. We

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Speaker 3: got oh for Bill, brand new Bill and uh superior

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Speaker 3: superioris Steve.

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Speaker 4: I love it Bill, Bill and Brittany done it. They

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Speaker 4: yalked on the street together.

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Speaker 10: Brittany on the street.

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Speaker 9: I don't think you.

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Speaker 4: Ain't been on the street.

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Speaker 2: Damn. We got Brittany on the street.

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Speaker 4: It's perfect for the street.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, she's just perfect in general.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I'll take that today. Hey, thank you,

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Speaker 6: thank you.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 3: So until the next time, ladies and gentlemen, this was

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Speaker 3: Quest Love Supreme. We'll see you on the next gogram.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 3: Hosted by Mayor Quest Love Thompson, Why You, Saint Claire Coleman, Sugar,

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Speaker 3: Steve mandel An.

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Speaker 2: Unpaid Bill Shan.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers are Mere Quest Love, Thompson, Jeanne g Brian

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Speaker 1: calf Produced by Brittany, Benjamin Cousin, Jake Payne, Eliah Sinclair,

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Speaker 1: edited by Alex Conroy, Produced by iHeart by Noel Brown

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Speaker 1: furs Love Supreme is the production of iHeartRadio. For more

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