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Speaker 1: So there's a way that they say what has caused

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Speaker 1: this event, the but for cause of these instances of

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Speaker 1: violence is the mental health of the perpetrator. Mind, do

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Speaker 1: they only speak that way when the perpetrator is a

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Speaker 1: when American who they can't um attribute, you know, other

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Speaker 1: So what you see is it becomes a pretext instead

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Speaker 1: what seems to be genuine interest. So it's not that

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Speaker 1: it's an either word conversation, but there is a there

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Speaker 1: make this conversation exclusively about mental illness, because that's what

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Speaker 1: you've been doing to prevent a conversation about the kinds

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Speaker 1: of gun reform that are frankly um supported by a

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Speaker 1: majority of not just Republicans, but a majority of n

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Speaker 1: r A members well, speaking of the National Rightful Association.

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Speaker 1: Joining us on the telephone line is Dan Eberhart, CEO

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Speaker 1: oil field services companies in the United States. Dan is

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Speaker 1: a Republican, a Republican donor who sports President Trump. And Dan,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for being here and and

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Speaker 1: I was reading on the Bloomberg terminal today just about

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Speaker 1: your quoted about urging the Republicans to distance themselves from

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Speaker 1: the National Rifle Association. Why is that so important? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that the if the Republican Party doesn't uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, provide a little bit of distance between themselves

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen mid terms. And I think it's important and

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Speaker 1: that you know, the gun violence is a systemic, is

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Speaker 1: an epidemic right now, and the Republicans, the Democrats and everyone,

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Speaker 1: you know, Americans and general want of solution, not the

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Speaker 1: you know, business as usual, and the Republicans have a

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Speaker 1: habit of gun violence happens, and there's condolences and kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, talking and thoughtfulness, but deer in the

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Speaker 1: headlights on you know, what are solutions where they pour

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Speaker 1: going to stop the problem. And I think that that's

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Speaker 1: where that's what needs to change. So how do you

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Speaker 1: folks who support the n r A who argue that

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Speaker 1: if President Trump were to distance himself in this that

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Speaker 1: they would I mean, I mean, you don't even have

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Speaker 1: outcome as what you're calling for. So it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a matter of degrees. You can have a disagreement with

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Speaker 1: a spouse and still love them. You can have a

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Speaker 1: disagreement with the family member or co worker and suspect them.

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Speaker 1: I think the the example of the model is is

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott when he was governor after Parkland, UM you know,

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Speaker 1: um minimal make ship buy a gun from eight one

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Speaker 1: and did three day waiting creed. You know, those kind

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Speaker 1: of moderate measures that are common sense. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll show voters and show the American public that the

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Speaker 1: Republicans want to be part of the solution. While while

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Speaker 1: they may upset the n r A, um that they

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Speaker 1: helped to provide you know, space between space between the

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Speaker 1: but also provide solution to are helpful to you know,

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Speaker 1: Frankly and Eberhardt cry llc at an airport waiting to

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Speaker 1: he's got one more question for you. Dan, a Republican

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Speaker 1: donor who supports President Trump urging the Republicans citizens themselves

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Speaker 1: from the National Rightful Association. What you know, yesterday we

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Speaker 1: had Secretary Carson on from the administration and he was

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Speaker 1: talking about this has to be a bipartisan issue. When

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan issue. How do we get this to be

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Speaker 1: a by part nonpartisan issue. Well, I think we've got

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Speaker 1: to stop talking past each other, and we've got to

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Speaker 1: stop talking in echo chambers. I think that we need,

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Speaker 1: you know, more Democrats on Fox News, we need more

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Speaker 1: Republicans on MSNBC, and we need to show the voters

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Speaker 1: that look, look, you know, every everybody in the legislature

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Speaker 1: D and drop the R and provide solutions. That's what

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Speaker 1: the American people want. I think this is a perfect

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Speaker 1: place to start. I think this is a serious problem

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Speaker 1: and the solution ary um involves people working together. And

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Speaker 1: no one is for gun violence, right, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what your party affiliation is. I think the Republicans have

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Speaker 1: got to stop having this kind of deer in the headlights,

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Speaker 1: correct and waiting for the news cycle to path. And

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Speaker 1: I think they need to be part of the solution

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Speaker 1: or I think that they're going to be eradicated in

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Speaker 1: in the suburbs, all right. Danny Everhard, CEO of Canary LLC,

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Speaker 1: He's a Republican owner who supports President Trump. Appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time and as a disclaimer. Michael Bloomberg, owner of Bloomberg LP,

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Speaker 1: the parent company of Boomberg News, founded and helps fund

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Speaker 1: every Town for Gun Safety, and nonprofit that advocates for

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Speaker 1: universal background checks and other gun violence prevention measures. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: more politics and policy with Brianna Joy Gray, Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Pager, Bloomberg's national campaign reporter. Download The Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: check us out on radio dot Com, I Heart Radio,

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Speaker 1: press Secretary. Antoine Ceawright, Democratic strategist, former advisor to Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: senior advisor to Hillary Clinton in South Carolina. Still hasn't

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Speaker 1: picked a candidate, Antonine, When are you gonna pick a candidate?

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Speaker 1: Direction is more important to the always has He's like

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Speaker 1: the Senator Kennedy of the left with the sayings. And

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Speaker 1: Tyler Pager, Bloomberg National political reporter. We've got a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes left, so I want to go around and

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Speaker 1: do this segment that we do of what's on your

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Speaker 1: radar looking at that maybe isn't in the news, isn't

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Speaker 1: in the headlines, but his policy politically driven. Tyler, I'll

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Speaker 1: start with you, what is on your You're heading to

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna be looking for in Iowa? I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be looking for So the quity impact pole came

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Speaker 1: out today and it showed a clear top three with Biden,

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Speaker 1: Warren and Sanders and so, I mean, I wish sorry

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Speaker 1: to interrupts you, but Briannest He's like, yes, we are

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Speaker 1: up here. Sorry, it's just like keep talking. Looking for

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Speaker 1: debate rise in the deadline is August. What are the

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Speaker 1: bottom tier candiates that have not yet qualified? And also

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Speaker 1: those ones in the middle, Harris, Budha, Judge, maybe Booker Um.

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Speaker 1: What are they going to try to do to make

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Speaker 1: their mark this weekend, which is the last big cattle

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Speaker 1: call before au Curson scream at the media at right,

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Speaker 1: Democratic strategist, what's on your air? My radar for now

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Speaker 1: is who will make some real investments in South Carolina

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Speaker 1: before the next debate? And I know always I think

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Speaker 1: all of them has what I'm saying, who's gonna make

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Speaker 1: a confert? Because I think you're starting to see things

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Speaker 1: stand out a bit in this race, and so I

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Speaker 1: think everybody still understands South Carolina's the priority. And so

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Speaker 1: there's some who have ventured off that course because they

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Speaker 1: But there's some who are gonna make the battle g

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Speaker 1: I think Warren is focusing her attention elsewhere. I don't

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Speaker 1: what's all my rator that we're heading to South Carolina

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Speaker 1: other places later this month? UM Senator Sanders will be

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Speaker 1: the way, just his trip and what it's like to

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders is someone who's supported UM black institutions. We

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Speaker 1: were in Cincinnati last month UM at an association for

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Speaker 1: Black publishers, where we heard repeatedly that Bernie Sanders was

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Speaker 1: one of the only campaign in twixteen that was seriously

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Speaker 1: investing in the black press, especially in Ohio. And I

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Speaker 1: lectability narrative speaking to those kind of things. So we're

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Speaker 1: looking for a candidate. I'm personally, as a black woman,

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Speaker 1: looking for a candidate who doesn't just show up in

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Speaker 1: South Atlanta because it's an election season, but it has

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Speaker 1: long been talking about his sixties fifty approach. All right,

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Speaker 1: we got like literally less than it, and then we

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Speaker 1: have a heart out. But Cardi B, Cardi, when do

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Speaker 1: I when do I get to see? Okay, First of all,

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Speaker 1: the universe. Secondly, when do I get to watch the

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders Cardi B Interview? I think you'll see some

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Speaker 1: snippets of it coming out later this week. Give us

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Speaker 1: and in touch with what's going on with working class people,

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Speaker 1: been long standing and it's one that speaks disproportionately to

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Speaker 1: the interests of the people in this country who have

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Speaker 1: been underside the pundit class. I am volunteering that I

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Speaker 1: It would be someone should do this panel, even if

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Speaker 1: to thank Brianna Joy Gray of the Bernie Sanders presidential

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Speaker 1: campaign for spending the hour with us. Of course, Antoine

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Speaker 1: see Right, a friend of the program at Democratic Strategist,

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Speaker 1: political reporter, and to the Eurasia groups Jeffrey Sawright, as

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