1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ, Bucky back with you and move 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: the sticks. Buck. How you do man? Man, I'm good. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: DJ is good. Man Like, Uh, it's weird because I 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: feel like we're doing double duty in terms of like 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: we're getting excited for the culmination of the NFL year 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: while also preparing for what's to be in a couple 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: of weeks with the NFL Combine coming, So just kind 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: of the race to figure out who's who and what's 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: what as we're celebrate the end of this year but 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: really put our eyes towards the twenty twenty two draft. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we're part of a select group here 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: that gets to run in both of these races. Right, 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of draft guys, You've got a 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of NFL guys, and uh, I feel like we're 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: running the same race at the same time, just on 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: different tracks. Yeah. Yeah, we're kind of like that that 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: rare cross country runner that is also participating on the 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: track team, running distant things and making it happen. But 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: I think it's fun and I think what we're going 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: to do today. So we explained to the guys, Um, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at how the Cincinnati Bengals were built 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: and so for two team builders, guys like I said, 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I think this is what we ultimately love about the 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: process is looking at how two teams have put together 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: championship caliber squads and they've done it differently. So today 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: our focus is on the Cincinnati Bengals, looking at their 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, looking at how they acquired their stars, whether 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: they were homegrown or free agency, all of that stuff, 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: putting it together, and just having a deep dive on 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: the way the Cincinnati Bengals built a super Bowl team. 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's let's kick it off here. Let's 33 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: get things started, and let's start. I don't have to 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: work chronologically here, let's start with the most important piece. Um. 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go a little reading time, buck, 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: a little reading time back in time draft, um, and 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: here you go. Burrow has solid size for the position, 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: possesses many elite qualities. Operated out of the gun and 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: the l s U spread attack. He's extremely accurate, efficient, 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: and instinctive. It's very smooth in his drop. Has the 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: ability to process through his reads at a rapid pace. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: He throws with anticipation. He can naturally layer the ball 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: over and under coverage. Doesn't have top shelf arm strength 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: when driving the ball outside the numbers, relying more on 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: timing and touch. He doesn't flinch versus pressure when he 46 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: sees something he likes down the field. If he needs 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: to buy time, he can slide and climb the pocket 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: with excellent feeling awareness, has a nice burst when he 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: leaves the pocket. He's more than a capable runner. Overall. 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Burrow lacks special arm strength, but his combination of poise, accuracy, 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: and toughness is very appealing. Look, man, I think that's 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: everything about him. Um. You know when we talk about 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks, and I think the learning lesson that I 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: have from Joe Burrow is I might have been slower 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: to embrace Joe Burrow as the number one quarterback in 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: the draft class and may be the special player that 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: he's become. I do remember having Jordan Palmer on our 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: podcast like early in the process, like before this the 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: senior his senior season started. He talked about Joe Burrow 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: and putting it together. And I think what I've learned 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow's success at l s U and then 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: his early success in the league is when you're looking 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: at quarterback, Yes, the tools are essential, but you got 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: to know the guy. And I think if I knew 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: the guy a little more in terms of like how 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: the fire burns within, I think then you gamble on 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: those guys because I think what happens is it's easy 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: to get like what we call the coach speak, where 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: the player talking about, oh, I love the game and 70 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: this and that. But I think when you talk to 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: everybody that was around him at Ohio State, how they 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: talk about his impact on the culture at l s U, 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: what he has been able to do in big games 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: and big moments and all of these things, I think 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: it's an easier sell. Uh God, I don't know what 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I was listening to yesterday. They were saying that when 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was coming out and they did the psychological testing, 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: that his test was on par with like emergency responders depression. 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: That when a lot of times, like when people are 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: in the mix and their heart rate goes up, his 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: heart rate goes down, and there's a a calmness to 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: him when they're in chaos. And I think when you 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: take that because I just heard it. I forgot. I 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: wish I could give credit to the podcast that I 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: heard it on. But when you take that and you 86 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: think about how he responds DJ I watched him against 87 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, and I'm looking at his reaction when 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: he's getting beat to a pulp nine sex. He never, 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: he never has bought bad body language. He just kind 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I guess that go back to the hold, 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: or he will go next play, let's onto the next. 92 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: The way that he reacted to the Kansas City Chiefs 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: in that game and all of that other stuff, good, 94 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: bad and different, he was always kind of like cool, 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: like Okay, we gotta we'll do this, and then the 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: responses in the press kind he's like, look, man, it's 97 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: not an upset, Like we're not underdogs, like we expect 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: to be here. If I had known a little more 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: about him in that vein, I absolutely would have pushed 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: all the chips. And because I think he not only 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: has the tools that we talked about physically, I think 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: the mental makeup and the moxie and the competitiveness to grit, 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: he has all that in space. That's why he's been 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: able to do what he's been able to do so 105 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: early in his career. Yeah, you know, it's it's funny 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: we we used that phrase when we're talking about him earlier. Um, 107 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of that subtle arrogance that he has right just 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of it's just a belief in yourself. And I 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: remember when we were going early on in the draft 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: process last process last year, we were talking about him 111 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: and talking about comps and I said, I talked to 112 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: somebody who's been doing this for, you know, forty years, 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: and said, this is the closest thing to Joe Montana 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: that I've seen, just in terms of his ability, his 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: belief in himself, others belief in him. Um, like you mentioned, 116 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: the heart rate kind of goes down. Joe Cool was 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: the nickname that's been kind of carried over to both guys. 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about Joe Montana, who, before Tom 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: Brady showed up, everybody would say is the greatest quarterback 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: of all time. Um, that's that's pretty good company. And 121 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm always you know, you're always reluctant to throw out 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: names like that when when you're talking about just draft guys. 123 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: But this, but there was something a little bit different 124 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow in that sense, and I think we've 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: seen that and I think, you know, look, if you want, 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: if you're a kid and you go to the amusement park, 127 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: some days you you you know, you save up, your 128 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: family saves up, you get get your trip. You go 129 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: to the amusement park and guess what. Some days Space 130 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Mountains closed buck. Other days you get there and all 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the rides are open. The Bengals had the number one 132 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: pick and all the rides were open. That not all 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: number one picks are created each weal they got a 134 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: true number one dude. Then they got a true number 135 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: one dude, and they got a dude who has everything 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: that you want from a leadership perspective, because DJ I 137 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: think it's not a coincidence that his teams have went 138 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: to the title, is not a coincidence that he has 139 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: found a way to make like big time plays when 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: you really need them to be made. And I think 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: the best thing about him is the connectivity. Much like 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is able to connect with different corners of 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: the locker room, Joe Burrow has that same ability. And 144 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I know, like we like it's almost blasphos blasphemous to 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: kind of put guys in that category with um Tom Brady. 146 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: But it does remind me a little bit of like 147 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: the two thousand and one Patriots, that the Patriots kind 148 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: of find their way into the thing. They're playing the 149 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: greatest show on turf, and there's no way that they 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: can get it done. But then you sit here and 151 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: you're looking like, Wow, I don't know, man like, with 152 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: that guy in a one game scenario, hard to bet 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: against him. I mean, he's already stared down the barrel 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes and didn't flinch. And I'm not saying 155 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: that Joe Burr played his best game, but he certainly 156 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: wasn't scared, and so in a one and done scenario, 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: it'd be hard for me to bet against him. Yeah, 158 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and you look, you know, we'll get to 159 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the team. In fact, let's let's take 160 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: a quick little time out and we're gonna come back 161 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: and look at how the rest of this Bengals team 162 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: was built. All right, Buck, When we look at the 163 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: rest of this offense, you talk about Joe Burrow, can 164 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: he get it done in this game against the Rams 165 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl? Um, I find it kind 166 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: of fascinating because I still think they're a work in progress, right, Like, 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: this is not a finished building. Now they're letting you 168 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: in the building, but you know there's a couple of 169 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: areas that you know, you've got some you've got some 170 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: tarp and you've got some tape. It's like, yeah, that's 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: not done yet. But you know it's a beauty. You 172 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: can see it's a beautiful house. But we still got 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a work to do in a 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: couple of bathrooms. But um man, one thing they have 175 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: done offensively if we just look there, draft and develop, 176 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: you look at offensively with Burrow, um you got mixing 177 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: at running back. Homegrown Jamar Chase was a home run 178 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: pick this year. Tee Higgins homegrown, Tyler Boyd, homegrown, c 179 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: js On, homegrown, Jonah Williams. I mean, on and on 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and on. This whole offense is homegrown. Yeah. Look and 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: in DJ. I think dead is always been part of 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals deal, like one. I think everyone has to 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: understand it's a mom and pop shop, meaning that the 184 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Bengals are the family business. This is not an ownership 185 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: group that has other interests that they are Oh, we're 186 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: using football the football team as our hobby. Now, this 187 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: is what they do, and so they have decided very 188 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: early in the game the best way for them to 189 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: build a team going all the way back is to 190 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: draft developed. That they will always have a tough time 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe attracting free agence, and in a small market, you 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: tend to have to take that approach. It's a cheaper 193 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: and more economical way to build your team. Draft them, 194 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: developed them, resigned them, and they become your nucleus for 195 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: a long time. When you point out all of the 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: star players that they have, I mean DJ on offense, 197 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: all of their stars are homegrown, all of them. They 198 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: took chances on Joe Mixon. Um, they have Tyler Board, Jamaar, 199 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Chase te Higgins, uh C j Uzoma like all of 200 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: those guys. Us we're picked developed with their coaching staff 201 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and they stay home and they play. There is something 202 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: too having that formula and that formula working out for them. Yeah, 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just all the way down. I mean, 204 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the offense, Um, gosh, 205 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: you know Isaiah Prince was waived. Um, he's probably the 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: weak link on their offense from Miami. They brought him 207 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: over Um, Hopkins was a college free agent, but I 208 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: believe he was. Was he a college free agent with Cincinnati? 209 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Let looked that up. Yeah, he was. He's been with 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: Cincinnati to I mean, it's darn near all but one 211 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: of their starters on offense. We're all drafted and developed. 212 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: So Um, I want to get back to Jamaar Chase 213 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: for a second, because I think you would say offensively, 214 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: he's the second most important person for them, and what 215 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: he's done is a rookie one of the best rookie seasons, 216 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: if not the best rookie season we've ever seen from 217 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: a white out, Um, and I go back to that discussion, 218 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: and I think you know what gets kind of lost 219 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: in that It was, you know, do they take a 220 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: tackle their offensive line is not very good, or you 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to take Jamar Case. And I felt like we kind 222 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: of made that argument through the process, which was a 223 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: there's some depth at the offensive line, so you can 224 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: wait till the second round, but be and most importantly, 225 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: this is not a to use the kind of the 226 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: grading scale a seven oh receiver versus a seven oh tackle, 227 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: who do you take? I think, okay, and that scenario, 228 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: I could make a compelling argument. Maybe you take the tackle. 229 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: This was a seven three wide receiver versus six seven tackles, like, 230 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: there was a noticeable difference. And I love I love Slater, 231 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: I love sewell, but this is a different level. So 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: in that case, you need both, right, you could make 233 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: a case for needing another white out. You can make 234 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a case obviously for need offensive line. Just take the 235 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: best player, which is what they did, and man, did 236 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: it work out. It did work out. And DC. You 237 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: know it's funny, right because during the draft we always 238 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: talk about a man b p a take the best 239 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: player available, take the best player available. However, we've seen 240 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: it working for teams. Somehow the best player available tends 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: to match the biggest need that you have. The Cincinnati 242 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Bengals didn't do that because they didn't really need a 243 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver at that point. They took a player who's 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: a game changer. And when we think about being at 245 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: the top of the draft, you want guys that are 246 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: impact players that the impact has felt immediately. Jamaar Chase's 247 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: impact as a rookie receiver, I mean has been tremendous. 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I would say that Jamaar Chase's ability to dominate the 249 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: game has raised the level of the other wide receivers, 250 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Tee Higgins being a thousand year receiver, h Tyler Boy 251 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: being a clutch receiver on third down being able to 252 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: loosen up some of the coverage over top of Joe Mixing. 253 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: That is Jamaar Chase's impact. And I think the thing 254 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: that was so hard and I'm glad, Like at media Day, 255 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase kind of gave the perfect comp for his game. 256 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things that I should have 257 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: saw it, but I didn't think about it. He said. 258 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Growing up, he looked at a lot of Daz Bryant tape. 259 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: Dar Bryant was his guy with DJ when you really 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: look at it, go back in YouTube, Dez Bryant in 261 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: his prime, and I believe there are a lot of 262 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: similarities because Dez Bryant wasn't the most refined route runner. 263 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't that, but man, when the ball was in 264 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: his hands. Yeah, So then when I look at Jamar Chase, 265 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, how did I miss that when that 266 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: is like right in front of my eyes. But yeah, 267 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: he talked about he gave reverence to Dez Bryant and 268 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: how Dez Bryant was his guy. I now see that. 269 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: And so when you think about that dominant power player 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, that is Jamar Chase, and Jamar Chase 271 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: is exceeded. I would say everybody's expectations for how he's 272 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna come in and dominate the game right away on 273 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: the perimeter. Yeah, you know Dez and people remember him 274 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: kind of later in his career. He couldn't really run. 275 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: He was never a Blazer like Jamar has another gear 276 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: than Deaz does. But Dez could run back in the day. 277 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: He was He returned punts. I remember watching him returned 278 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: punts at over State like he could run. He just 279 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a four three one the fourth three guy like 280 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: this dude. No, he wasn't a for three. But like 281 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: early das, Dead's catching slants, dads, catching in, breaking routes, 282 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: breaking tackles, calls, the physicality, the winning the fifty balls. 283 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: There are a lot of similarities in the game. But 284 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: you're right, Jamaar Chase has that added the added years, 285 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: so he's like Dez Bryant plus. But it's a great 286 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: comp But those are the things. And so when we 287 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: talk about how this team has put it together, the 288 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals decided to build around the quarterback. They built 289 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: the playmakers around it. We've talked about the three p's 290 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: and the three piece being um play call of protection playmakers. 291 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Bengals and I believe they're three 292 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: ps are passer playmakers and then pass rushers, and we'll 293 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: get to the pass rushers down the line. They certainly 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: went all in on playmakers and they said, hey, I 295 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: passed this so good. He'll take care of the protection 296 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: on his own by getting five in the route and 297 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: being able to do it that way. Yeah, And that 298 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: to me gets to what the work still in progress 299 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: us here. I think this offensive line still has some holes, 300 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: particularly on that right side. UM. You know, we'll see. 301 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: I guess Jackson Carmen will be back in the lineup 302 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But you've got Jackson Carmen who's 303 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: still work in progress as a rookie. UM Isaiah Prince 304 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: probably the weak link of this group. I think you 305 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: probably see some some editions coming in the off season 306 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: on that side of the line and to get them better. 307 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: That crazy thing is, though, is you know, talking to 308 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: some some gms around the league, and you always look 309 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: at these kind of final two, Final four teams and 310 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, what do we learn from them? Blah 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: blah blah, And you're like, man, you gotta be careful 312 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: because sometimes there's exceptions. It's still hard, um, you know, 313 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: to get to the to the title, to get to 314 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: the podium when you don't have a upper tier Like 315 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about top ten, top twelve ish offensive line 316 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: and this is not This is probably a bottom ten 317 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: offensive line in the league. I think. I think when 318 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: you do that, the quarterback has to be even that 319 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: much more exceptional, I think, because what you're doing is 320 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: to mass his issues. What you're in is a Joe Burrow. 321 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: You handled the Blitz on your own. So if you're 322 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: more comfortable with five out in the route and we're 323 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: going empty, hey, just no. You may take more shots 324 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: because it's on you. But I think Joe Burrow will 325 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: say I would rather have it that way. Then you 326 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: leave bodies in. You know what it feels like the Colts, 327 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning Colts. Remember those offensive lines for the Colts, 328 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: we would look at them. The worst thing is a scout. 329 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than to be in the draft room 330 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and somebody from your area on the offensive line gets 331 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: drafted by the Colts in the fifth, sixth round because 332 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: everybody in the buildings and five years, they're like this, guys, 333 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: this guy started for the Colts for five straight years. 334 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: They've been in the playoffs and win in fourteen thirteen 335 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: fourteen games. You gave him a free agent grade. I'm like, yeah, 336 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: he stinks. Okay, Peyton Manning just covered it all up. 337 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: And Peyton Manny covered him up. And not only that, 338 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: he ends up going to Pro Bowls because they're always 339 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: twelve and four, thirteen and three, one of the top teams. Yeah, 340 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things. But the better the quarterback, 341 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: the more you can have liberties with some of those things, 342 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: whether it's upfront or even at running back, because a 343 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: great quarterback changes the way that the defense has to 344 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: defend and has to play. And so if you're dealing 345 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow right now, a man we want to 346 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: deal with pressure and all that other stuff, Well, now, 347 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: not only do you have to make sure that you 348 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: get home before he gets the ball out, are you 349 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: good enough to cover the guys that they have on 350 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the outside. And it's very similar to the Indianapolis coach, 351 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: which I think is a great example considering what since 352 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: then in Indianapolis, like a hour and a half, two hours, 353 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: three hours away, whatever it is. Um, I mean, look, 354 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a great thing because they are willing 355 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: to say that our playmakers are better than your playmakers. 356 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna put a premier on making sure that we 357 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: get the ball in the hands of our playmakers and 358 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: they're making happen. That's our forty five top on and 359 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: and which, um, you know, but that's it's probably a 360 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: good time to transition over to the defense. UM. So 361 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: let's take a quick pause and we'll come back and 362 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: look at how they built this defense. All right, Well, 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: you teased it. I mean we're talking about the connection 364 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: between the Colts philosophy of how they were built under 365 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Bill Pollion, um, and maybe how this this Bengals team 366 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: has been built. We talked about maybe the offensive line 367 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: still to be you know, developed in some works, still there, 368 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: but you've got a great quarterback who covers that up. 369 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: But you mentioned the peas buck and on defense that 370 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: p was pass rusher, all pass rushers. And here here's 371 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: what's funny about the Bengals. So we talked about everything. Like, man, 372 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: they went to the backyard. They decided that they wanted 373 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: to have their garden. They went to like, uh, the 374 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: little store, got all the seeds, and they've been watering 375 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: and putting all that stuff and they've watched it. Just 376 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: had a very fruitful and productive harvest. But then on defense, 377 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: they were like, no, no no, no, we're just gonna go 378 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: to the store and get that. We're not We're gonna 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: spend the time to go and do that. And so 380 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: then I think about Trey Henderson being there, Markie free agent. 381 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Yet you know he comes over from the Saints, UHC. 382 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: In the last two years, he dude has like twenty 383 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: seven and a half sacks. I mean, he is absolutely 384 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: crushing it off the edge. And for those who looked 385 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: at Hendrickson as a guy, well, he's the beneficiary of 386 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's man. You talk about going from being kind 387 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: of like the the sidekick, from being robbing and now 388 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: you're Batman who the Cincinnati Bengals. Most guys don't have 389 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: that ability to do. Is why free agency can be 390 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: scary for some guys because when you look at Henderson 391 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: like naturally, you say, uh, how much his Dad him 392 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: benefited from getting to one on ones because everyone is 393 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: paying attention to Cam Jordan's for the Saints. Well, now 394 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna Cincinnati improven that he can be a number 395 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: one pass rusher. I think that's more uncommon than anything. Yeah, no, 396 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: no doubt. And it's it's not just him, all right, 397 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna join some other key free agents that transformed 398 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: this defense this year. Joby Woozy comes out over from Dallas. Um, 399 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: you've got Von Bell who'd been at New Orleans. You've 400 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: got Eli Apple who would come over to San Francisco obviously, 401 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: Von Belle Ohio State, Eli Apple, Ohio State. Um, you've 402 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: got Hubbard there, who's Ohio State. This goes back to 403 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: something we would always point to back with the old Bengals. 404 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Right now, we'll get into their scouting staff and how 405 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: it's it's grown a little bit over the years. But man, 406 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, Buck, you could just you could 407 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: just look at the all Big ten team and say, 408 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: okay for these guys, the Bengals of draft for these guys, 409 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: because it was all right in their backyard. They had 410 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: their homework on them, and they knew who they were 411 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: and they were gonna go that was them. Well, I 412 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: mean like this is almost like an old college trick 413 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: where you throw a fence around your neighborhood, like you 414 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: assassinated being who you're in the heart of Big ten country. 415 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you can go anywhere and see these guys 416 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: come to play. I mean, if you're the scout and 417 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: you don't want to go anywhere, you just go to 418 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Columbus and you just you just get them all, just 419 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: let me see them all. And that's what they've been 420 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: able to do for the longest time. They were always 421 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: like heavy Big ten And look all those Ohio State guys. 422 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: All those guys are are local. They all have played 423 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: and cold. Whether they all understand it, I think the 424 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: Bengal staff certainly knows who they are and has been 425 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: able to work because for some of those guys like 426 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: Eli Apple. Eli Apple had a tough time in other 427 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: locations with the Giants, with the Saints, with the Panthers, 428 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily work out for the Bengals. For whatever reason, 429 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: it has worked. You think h w Woozi yet didn't 430 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: play great consistently with the Dallas Cowboys. He gets up 431 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: there and it works out. Von bell I thought it 432 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: was very solid in New Orleans. He goes back to Cincinnati. 433 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: He's been more than a solid player. He and Jesse 434 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: bas has done a really good job before him. One 435 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: of the best safety tantems that we have in the league. Um, 436 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and they're Larry Ogan Jobi quietly seven sacks for him, 437 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: free agent guy on a one year deal. He's on 438 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: I R and we haven't talked about him. But DJ 439 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: think about the production they got. So yeah, they lose 440 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, but man, they come back and you know, 441 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: we thought that Carl Lawson thing would be a big loss, 442 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: but they graded by getting hendrickson great Lawson. Lawson got 443 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: hurt and Henderson went to post a double digit sacks, 444 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: So that worked out pretty darn good for them. Um, 445 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: they've got you know, when I look at DJ Reader 446 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: coming over from Houston, that was huge. Man Like he 447 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: is just he is powerful and strong. He was a 448 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: really good player. I mean, that was not a mystery. 449 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: That was somebody. I think a lot of teams were 450 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: looking at Um. That was that was key for them. 451 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the Bengals, you know, they've kind 452 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: of got this label, like you said, kind of mom 453 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: and pop. They don't spend money. They went out and 454 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: spent money. They went out and spent money on these 455 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: free agents, put out good money and they got a 456 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: fantastic return. So um, it's it's very it's very interesting 457 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: to just see how offense homegrown, build them up, let 458 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: them grow together. Defense in one offseason really kind of supported, 459 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, a good nucleus that they had, but man, 460 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: that they brought in some key dudes. Man. It's one 461 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about, g J. I 462 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: think we've had a conversation on the pot a few 463 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: different times where the number one thing that you do 464 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: when you take over a team, what is the waking 465 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: side that we can get to being pretty good quickly? 466 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: And so build up one side, then the next year 467 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: build up the other side. And so what has happened 468 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: with the Bengals. Joe Burrow comes over, they already had 469 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: some of the weapons. Uh, Tyler board was there, Zona 470 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: was there, Joe Mixing was there. They draft t Higgins 471 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: that year. The next year they go and get Jamar 472 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Chase and automatically, boom that offense goes. And then what 473 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: they did is they took the money and spend it 474 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: on their defense. And look, I don't think the defense 475 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: was a dominant defense, but it was the middle of 476 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: the pack. And so they have a dominant offense the 477 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: middle of pack defense, and that has been good enough 478 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: for them to get there. And then from a defensive standpoint, 479 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I would say this, they have done a good job 480 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: of playing very simple on defense. The better your offense is, 481 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: the more you can play a bember don't break style 482 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: on defense. And when you look at the way the 483 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: Bengals have been able to win the first three games 484 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: in the tournament, they don't beat themselves, keep it, keep 485 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: the ball in front, take it away on tips and overthrows, offensively, 486 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: take care of the ball, and the other teams have 487 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: imploded and they're right there. And so the reason why 488 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: I think this game the Rams can be interested because 489 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: we've seen the Rams have turnover wolves and even though 490 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: we're not the only way they lose I mean that 491 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: to me is the way this game goes, like, how 492 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: does this How does Cincinnati win this game? That's it. 493 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: They gotta turn the ball over. And so if you're 494 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, you have to stay in character. You've 495 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: gotta make the places that's supposed to make on offense, 496 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: and then defensively, you're your ball. You're hunting your ball, hunting, 497 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to knock the ball out. You're hoping Matthew 498 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: Stafford makes a mistake, and then you have to catch 499 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: it when he makes the mistake. Yeah, that's it. I 500 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: want to give our buddy, by the way, Uh, Stephen 501 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: Rodisovitch some some love. Who runs the pro department. And 502 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: we've known Stephen forever going back to when he was 503 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: at U c L A kind of who was the 504 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: li liaison there with the scouts rolling through there. Um. 505 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: But he does the he does all the pro work 506 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: over there, which if you don't know how scouting departments work, 507 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: you have a college side, which is dealing with the draft. 508 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: You have the pro side, which deals with your own roster, 509 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: advancing the teams you're gonna play, um as well as 510 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: free agency. And to fix that in one year, I 511 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: mean I kind of look at a couple of different 512 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: examples around the league this year. This this should be 513 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: encouraging for all team builders. Right, you identify a you 514 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: identify problem in your organization. This does not need to 515 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: be a two and three year process to get it fixed. 516 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs just turned over the whole offensive 517 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: line of one year and it was one year, one 518 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: year and fixed it and was better. And then you 519 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: look at the Cincinnati Bengals and we've just talked about 520 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: this defense transformed the whole defense in one year. So 521 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: I mean to me, that's it's it's hard to say, Okay, 522 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: you'll be patient. It's four year plan. It's a long process. 523 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Like you know what. The best example to me of 524 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: this is, you don't go shopping in the dollar store, 525 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: like you gotta get some of those gotta pay premium 526 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: prices for some of these dudes. But you can get 527 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: it fixed. Man. They did. The Chiefs did it with 528 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: with a combination of trading the first round pick to 529 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: go to Orlando Brown. Um, you spent a ton of 530 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: money on Joe Tuney um, and then other draft high 531 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: draft capital on at least on Creede Humphrey. Then they 532 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: hit hit home around with Trey Smith. But um, when 533 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: you look at you look at this Bengals team, Yeah, 534 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was Trey Henderson. That's a lot of 535 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: money that they shelled out. Um, and then you look 536 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: at the rest of these guys. They got you know quality, 537 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: quality players. They got what they paid for. Yeah, I think, 538 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: and we talked about the plan. I think we would 539 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: be remiss if we don't talk about Zach Taylor and 540 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: what the Bengals were able to do or we're willing 541 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: to do. When it came to Zach Taylor, Uh, Look, 542 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: the first couple of years didn't go. Didn't look like 543 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: the way that you wanted to turn around the look. 544 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: But instead of pulling the plug after two years, he 545 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: gets his third year and in the third year it popped. 546 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: And so it's a bit of a lesson for everybody. 547 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: We talked about like a we don't have to have 548 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: this long drawn out plan. But I do think for coaches, 549 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: I think at a minimum, man you need to give 550 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: him three years to see if they can turn it around. 551 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: And I think for Zach Taylor to be able to 552 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: turn it around, I think for some ownership groups, they 553 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: should be able to look at that and say, Okay, 554 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: when we signed these deals, we have to give the 555 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: guy three years. We have to give him three draft 556 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: classes to come through there to be able to do it. 557 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I think three years has to be kind of like 558 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: the new cut off point, where then at the end 559 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: of three years, you can make the decision whether it's 560 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: going the right way or not. But three years kind 561 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: of has to be the window. Yeah. And I think 562 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: if you look at the young quarterbacks that have been 563 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: developed properly in this league over the last five, six, 564 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: seven years, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid the whole time, Josh 565 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: Allen up to this point, Brian day Ball the whole time. Um, 566 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: you look at you know, justin Herbert's one where they've 567 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: switched over and he's been he's been fine. But Joe Burrow, 568 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, you know, through a couple of years, like 569 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: just giving them some continuity and some consistency with who's 570 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: in their ear, at least when they're young. You know, look, 571 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: when you get older, okay, you know you need spots 572 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: or leaves. You'll be okay, you've got your you've established yourself. 573 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: But while you're building and establishing a foundation. Look, I 574 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: I know he was hurt a little bit this year, um, 575 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: and people, you know, I think he's grossly underrated. The 576 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys had the number one offense in the NFL, 577 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: and I think Dak Prescott having Kellen Moore in his 578 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: ear for some continuity now and I know people kind 579 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: of maybe soured on them at the end of the season, 580 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: but Kellen Moore coming back, I think is is a 581 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: huge thing for Dak Prescott. Man, that's they have developed 582 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: a comfort level. They chuck it all over the place 583 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: to score a bunch of points the DJ. I think 584 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: if you want consistency, you have to have uh stability 585 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: and structure around your best players. You have to allow 586 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: them to grow within the system that you put in. 587 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: You have to nurture it. You can tweak and make 588 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: some adjustments to what you don't want to have, like 589 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: radical changes to the system. And you know, it's funny 590 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow plays 591 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: right away. We talked about Patrick Mahomes sitting and waiting, 592 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: but you know, man, I just wonder like it's kind 593 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: of one of those things at quarterback the only way 594 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: you get good is by doing and I know, doing 595 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: the draft. We're talking about guys not being ready and 596 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: all that other stuff, but I don't know there. I mean, 597 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: there's enough evidence where man, you kind of have to 598 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: put them on the field so you can figure it out. 599 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: We've talked about a man the first year, you have 600 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: to know, Hey, we're gonna take the lumps. We're gonna 601 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: deal with it. But what we want to do is 602 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: you want to see what he can do. Year two, 603 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: we add pieces to those shopping You go shopping for 604 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: what he needs because you can't make that. You figured out, 605 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: you know what, in order to make the meal the 606 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: way this quarterback likes it, we need a little bit 607 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: of this. Okay, we gotta go get that and and that, 608 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's important. So look, Joe Burrows in 609 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: year two, year one day, let him play with what 610 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: he had your two. Oh guess what some of the 611 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Christmas treetmar chase like and it explodes. I think, I 612 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: think there's something to it. And so um we're speaking 613 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: the same language when it comes to the plan. But 614 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: there's a level of consistency stability that you have to 615 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: have around the quarterback for the quarterback to flourish. And 616 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot easier for the team to become a 617 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: championship caliber team when the quarterback is thrown no doubt. 618 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: I want to take a second here and give Duke 619 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: Tobin some love because Duke has been running the personnel department, 620 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: uh for this organization for a long time. I think 621 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: he's outstanding. We just late listed all the guys they've 622 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: drafted and homegrown and all the hits that they've had. 623 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: He's put a team into the super Bowl. There, um, 624 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: And I you know what, there's there's some people and 625 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: we all know who they are, who played the game 626 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: with the media and they get their name out there 627 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and they search for pats on the back and they 628 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: search for love, they search for credit. That's not him. 629 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's just he's salt of the earth, 630 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: just a good dude. Doesn't too his own horn at all. 631 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think we've really heard his name mentioned much. Um. 632 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: And this lead up to the Super Bowl. You know, 633 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: less Less has got a lot of credit, and rightfully 634 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: so unless doesn't do that either, he doesn't promote himself. 635 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: But Less made these big, bold trades, and so I 636 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: think Less gets a lot of credit, um, and he 637 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: deserves it. But I think Duke Tobin, um Man, I 638 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: just want to make sure we mentioned him and give 639 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: him some love for what he's done building this team. Look, man, 640 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I think we had to give um beyond Tobin. I 641 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: think we have to give Mike Brown and those guys 642 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for what they've done. Like you 643 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: gotta remember, man, they have been a laughing stock for 644 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: a long time, even though I would say they had 645 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: a ton of success in the two thousand tens being 646 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: able to win and win division titles, but they couldn't 647 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: get over the hump in terms of winning a playoff game. 648 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: But this is a team that has quickly kind of 649 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: changed the hierarchy in the a f C because they're 650 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: in the mix. In DJ Like I know, we talked 651 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: about teams being dynastic, and we thought they can't see 652 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, We're gonna be dynastic. I think unfortunately for them, 653 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: like their window, they might have missed their window. In 654 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: terms of being a dynasty. The quarterback would always kind 655 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: of keep them in play. But now the a f 656 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: C is a nightmare. Man, it's a monster. But the 657 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and the teams and the young teams that are 658 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: there between Buffalo Cincinnati, I mean, the Charges should be 659 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: back in the mix. The Chiefs of it. It is 660 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: a hard road to hope when it comes to being 661 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: able to be an ANFC championship team. The Bingess delve 662 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit. And I think the exciting 663 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: thing will be if they can build upon it. Whatever 664 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: this looks like, whether it's a Super Bowl championship team, 665 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: if it's a runner up, how do they build upon 666 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: it going out? Because man, the pieces are in place 667 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: for them to be good and be good for a 668 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: long time, no doubt. Um. And we'll see see if 669 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: they can have a run similar to the Indianapolis culture. 670 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: They just ripped off double digit wins and one a 671 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: zillion division titles and all that stuff. You see, if 672 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: they're on that, We'll see if they're on that path. Yeah, 673 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: they're They're there. They're the team though, they're the team. Um. 674 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: All right, anything else you want to add before we 675 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: get out of here, Buck, This is a fun little 676 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: deep dive here on the Cincinnati Bengals. No. I think 677 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: it's a fun little deep dive. And I think when 678 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: we do the podcast on Thursday and we talked about 679 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: the Rams, I think it'll be interesting to hear the 680 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: different ways that you can do it. There's some differences 681 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the way these teams are built, but 682 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I think the core in terms of what's necessary having 683 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: the right players, having elite players and those key positions. 684 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that remains the same as just a different 685 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: way of getting there, no doubt. All Right, this was fun. 686 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I hope you guys have enjoyed it as much as 687 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: we have. We'll have another episode as Buck you mentioned, 688 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: uh doing a deep dive on the Los Angeles Rams. 689 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: How less kneed Sean McVeigh built this roster that's got 690 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: them in a Super Bowl chasing a title. Really second 691 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl five years, so pretty incredible what they've been 692 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: able to do. And we'll get to we'll get you 693 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: that episode here coming up in a couple of days. 694 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. Appreciate you, See you 695 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: next time right here on, Move the sticks.