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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, Andy Johnson. Today I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Ryan Gerard. All right, Ryan

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Speaker 2: h you had a video the PGA Tour came to

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Speaker 1: need to switch putters, Like this is stupid.

434
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Speaker 2: Have you had like a moment where you you feel

435
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: like that you made it or are you do you

436
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: have you still not had that moment.

437
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't think I've made it because I wouldn't say

438
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I haven't done enough in this game to consider myself

439
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: like someone that has made it, Like, yeah, I won

440
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: an event, but it's still like unnerving when you get recognized,

441
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: like in the airport sometimes, or you know, if I'm

442
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: wearing a titleist hat out and about near my house,

443
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: like there's a pretty good chance that's someone comes up

444
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: to me. But I haven't made it because I've seen

445
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: the guys that have made it, like kind of what

446
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: their life is like, and it's a whole different world,

447
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily like something I'm like super stoked about, Like,

448
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: but I think that's what the money's for. That's what

449
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: the the good play gets you and if you want

450
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: to be, you know, at that level, you want to

451
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: win majors, you want to compete at the highest echelon

452
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: of the game. Like that's part of it, and you

453
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: just got to take it in stride because at the

454
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, Like, there's so many people

455
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: that are giving up their hard earned dollars to come

456
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: see you in person, or giving up their time and

457
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: putting effort in to turn on the TV to watch

458
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: you play. Like that's that's all you could ask for,

459
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: is someone to care about what you're doing. And that's

460
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty special. So I don't think there's a whole

461
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: lot of people tuning in to see Ryan Gillard play

462
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: every Thursday afternoon on PGA Tour Live. But yeah, yeah,

463
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: but you know it's it is cool, man, because like

464
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: we appreciate like more than people can imagine. Like, dude,

465
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: I would be able to do this if people didn't

466
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: care about professional golf as a as a whole. And

467
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm lucky enough that I have the best job in

468
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: the world because of this.

469
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: Your dad was a great player, he played professionally. Uh

470
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: for a bit I saw on UH in that same

471
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: Golf Digest article, What what benefit do you think your

472
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: dad being a golfer and somebody that played at a

473
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: high level play in your development.

474
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad played. He played in college and then

475
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: he turned pro and he played for a little bit

476
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: and just kind of wasn't for him. Like he was

477
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: better at, like you know, going and putting one hundred

478
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: dollars in a pot and doing a winter take all

479
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: than he was like trying to grind it out in

480
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: a tournament. But I think, honestly, what what helped me

481
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: is he had that mindset, like he knew how to

482
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: get to that level. So he wasn't necessarily like easy

483
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: on me. Like he was pretty hard on me when

484
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: I was a kid because he knew that I had

485
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: the desire to play well and that's all I wanted

486
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: to do was going off for some play. But he

487
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: instilled things like routine grip, putting a line that stick

488
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: down on the range, just stupid stuff like that that

489
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: when I was eight years old, I thought it was

490
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing ever because no one else was doing it.

491
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: But when I look back now, like I rarely hit

492
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: any sort of iron shot on the driving range without

493
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: of alignment stick down, and like that's when my dad

494
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: was saying to me eighteen years ago, and I thought

495
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: he was stupid, but like, come to find out, he

496
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: was really right. So I think just him being stubborn

497
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: and being hard on me about those things that have

498
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: like basically it's stilled the practice, the discipline, the mental

499
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: kind of game a little bit, and just being a competitor,

500
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: Like he didn't want to lose to me. We'd go

501
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: out and play. That's all I want to do is

502
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: go play golf of my dad. When I had a

503
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: chance to, we'd go out and play, and he's like,

504
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: do it his absolute best to not let me come

505
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: close to beating him, until it was like he just couldn't,

506
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: he couldn't be me anymore. But I think all those

507
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: things that you grew up doing, Like I grew up

508
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: because I want to spend time with my dad, but

509
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I grew up loving the game, and then I grew

510
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: up understanding that it took a lot of effort, It

511
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: took a lot of hard work, and then it also

512
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: took you know, just luck and talent and intangible things

513
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: that you can't really teach. And but it goes beyond that.

514
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: You have to want it more than anyone else could

515
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: want it for you, because if you don't want it,

516
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how good you might be, Like you're

517
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: never going to want to put in the amount of

518
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: time or effort to make a worthwhile for everyone that's

519
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: trying to get there with you.

520
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: As you've kind of come up on the on the

521
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: PGA tour and in the corn Ferry Tour, did you

522
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: get any advice or messages from other players that that

523
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: kind of stuck with you?

524
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Olan Brown Senior has given me some awesome, awesome tidbits.

525
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of guys that have

526
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: been like super willing to help. And I think that's

527
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: was surprising to me because you would think that as

528
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: a competitor, you know, someone that you're not trying to

529
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: gate keep young guys out, but like, hey, this is

530
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: this is the job, Like I don't want to give

531
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: someone an edge, But people have been like super thoughtful

532
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: and super generous with their time to me. But something

533
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: that Olin Brown Senior that stuck out to me as

534
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I was playing with them one day at Pedalist And

535
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the big things that he says are like put your

536
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: phone down, like when you're out here it's time to work,

537
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Like cut off the distractions tournament week, you know you're

538
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: playing good, you have three hundred missed text messages like

539
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: get to a Monday, Like it's not it's not gonna

540
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: hurt everyone if you wait two days. And I think

541
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: the last thing is just like, if you're good enough

542
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: to have gotten there with what you have, and you're

543
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: good enough to be playing as well as you are

544
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: with what you have, you're good enough to finish the job,

545
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: or you're good enough to get to that next level.

546
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of goes hand in hand

547
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: with you gotta work hard, you gotta you gotta be

548
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: honest with yourself about where you stand. But you know,

549
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: if you're on Sunday coming down the stretch of the

550
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: back nine, but you've played good enough with what you

551
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: have to get in that position, like you have what

552
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: it takes to get it done. And I think some guys,

553
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: the first couple of times they get in that situation,

554
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: youll freaked out because you want it so bad that

555
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: you're almost afraid of messing it up. I don't think

556
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: people really fold because you know they don't know what

557
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: they're doing, or they're losing it. It's because they want

558
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: it so much that they're trying to do too much

559
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: instead of not doing enough. And it's just something to

560
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: kind of remember, is like, dude, if I played good

561
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: enough to keep myself in this position, just keep doing

562
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: what we've been doing because you know it's going to

563
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: work out. And I think that's that stuck with me

564
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: a lot, just in life, but also like trying to

565
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: win golf tournaments is don't need to change anything just

566
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: because there's three holes left, Like you've played sixty nine

567
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: holes of great golf likes, so go keep making good swings.

568
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: I think that's like, uh, it's incredible advice for golf obviously.

569
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: I think like the you know notion of probably one

570
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: of the harder things about the tour is like there's

571
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: so many shiny new things everywhere you look, and the

572
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: ability to do this, whether it's with your swing or

573
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: your putting, or your short game or your equipment. How

574
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: do you balance like trying new stuff with knowing what

575
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: you got got you to at this point, top twenty

576
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: five in the world.

577
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I think you're always looking to get better, and I

578
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: think that's the kind of double edged short of having

579
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the world at your fingertips where I could go and

580
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: ask for custom clubs, custom whatever, like it's really cool,

581
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Like it's awesome, and like the golf junkie and you

582
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: was like, dude, well, what if you you know, what

583
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: if we made this custom set of irons that had

584
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: a little less offset and like you know, we had

585
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: freeware on the leading edge so it got in the

586
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: turf a little bit different and all like, yeah, it'd

587
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: be awesome, like theoretically be sick and it would probably work,

588
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: But you know, how much how much can I trust

589
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: that that's that like those clubs that I've never hit

590
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: in a single competitive round of golf, that have ever

591
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: mattered in any way, shape or form, are going to

592
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: be as good as the irons that I've been playing

593
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: for four years. That when I pick the eight iron up,

594
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly what it's going to do. I know

595
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: the numbers that it's going to fly with every different shot.

596
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to get lost in the process

597
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: of trying to improve just for the sake of improvement,

598
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: And like you could pick on guys like Bryson, who's

599
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: probably gone down the rabbit hole so much that like

600
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: they're looking at solving the equation with equipment instead of

601
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: like marring golf swing and feel to what you have

602
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: availed by your disposal. But for me, like if I

603
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: find something great, I want to stick with it. But

604
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: you do have to sometimes stay a long look in

605
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: the mirror and be like this three iron is just

606
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: not it. Like I, for the life of me, I

607
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I've given a great shake.

608
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm making good swings with nine of

609
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: the other clubs. It's just like this one needs work.

610
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: Or you know, I just cracked a three wood couple

611
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Like, hey, like I have to be

612
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: real particular with whatever is going to go replace. The

613
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: new club is going to feel exactly how I want

614
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: it to feel. And that's just part of it. Like

615
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you got to you got to be one hundred percent

616
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: committed to whatever you're going to put in play in

617
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: a tournament that that's the right club. And you can't

618
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: get nine holes in and be like, oh dude, why

619
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: did I pick this putter or why am I playing

620
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: this wedge grind instead of this wedge grind? And I

621
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: should have just stuck with whatever. But I think you

622
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: do learn sooner rather than later that being comfortable over

623
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: a ball is the most important thing. Like, if for

624
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: some reason you put something down and you just don't

625
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: feel comfortable over it, you're not going to be able

626
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: to make a great swing out it, just because you're

627
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: not putting yourself in a position to succeed from the

628
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: get go. So I think a time, you know, does

629
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: it look good? Does it feel good? Do I feel

630
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: like I can hit a good job? And if I

631
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: feel like I can hit a good job, I probably

632
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: can't with this golf club. Despite if the numbers don't

633
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: say that it's perfect for me or this one's better, whatnot.

634
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: You have to truly believe that you can, otherwise you're

635
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: probably not going to put a good golf swing on it.

636
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break for some words

637
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: from our partners. You had to break out your last year,

638
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: you won the Barracuda and then you took a last

639
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: minute flight or last minute entry to the Barisius Open

640
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: to qualify for the Masters, which you achieved with a

641
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: runner up. Finished there. This year you've kind of continued

642
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: your ascension. You have three runner ups. I haven't fact

643
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: checked this, but I'm just gonna assume that second to

644
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: Scottie on tour of most second place finishes. How does

645
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: it feel that like where you're having this great year,

646
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: but I imagine you're you feel like you're a little

647
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: frustrated you didn't get across the line. What does it

648
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: feel like to fall short in an event like the Memorial?

649
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: That sucks? Dude? I would say, you know, I'm probably

650
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: as hard on myself as anyone really could be, and

651
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: that's because I expect, you know, good results. Have put

652
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: a lot of effort, I want it. I'm willing to

653
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: put in the time to effort, the sacrifice, and at

654
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I'm like probably one of

655
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: the most competitive people that was out there. So yeah,

656
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: it sucks like it's the fucking worst. Like I just,

657
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pissed that I couldn't get across the

658
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: finish line, but I could hang my hat on the

659
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: fact that I did everything that I could in all

660
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: the moments to kind of hit golf shots down the stretch,

661
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: execute under the gun. When I needed to make a

662
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: putt on seventeen, I made a putt when I need

663
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: to make a putt on eighteen. Of course, Platoff made

664
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: the putt like I did so many good things and

665
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: it just wasn't enough, which is almost worse because like

666
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: it'd be easier to just point out like one stupid

667
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: mistake that you made and be like, well, that's the reason.

668
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: But I think it kind of just reaffirmed something to

669
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: me that like seven two holes is so much golf,

670
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes you get hung up on what happened during

671
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: a playoff or during the last six holes of the

672
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: six holes of the golf tournament instead of you know, hey,

673
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I made a really really stupid decision on Friday morning

674
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: and like made a boneheaded Bobie from the middle of

675
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the fairy of Little Ledge when you know that shot

676
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: is is the difference maker at the end of the week,

677
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: instead of you know, anything that you did on whole fifteen.

678
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: So I think it just kind of, you know, it

679
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: doesn't it eats at me in the way that I'm learning,

680
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to get better. It's it's making me work harder,

681
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: it's making me more kind of like ready to get

682
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: back out there. Like I want that feeling. I want

683
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: that I want the ball in my hands in that situation.

684
00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: But like it's making we feel like I using all

685
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: four rounds to be a little bit more. That's it particular.

686
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: It is the word that I'm looking for with you know,

687
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: shot seledge and stuff like that. You're not just kind

688
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: of like not that anyone's really just like nailing it

689
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: in on Thursday Friday, but you know, sometimes you just

690
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: you played six weeks in a row and you're just tired,

691
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: and you kind of fall asleep at the wheel of

692
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: the third hole, and it's like whatever does matter, and

693
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: it just kind of is a reminder to stay locked in,

694
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: give every shot you're all and just kind of give

695
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: everything complete focus when you're out there and really do

696
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: the best that you can.

697
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I think, you know, interesting thing to think think about,

698
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: like us people that work regular jobs, Like it's completely

699
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: normal to have a day where you're just not feeling it,

700
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: you know, does that happen on tour? Like you said,

701
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

702
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Like I I remember Friday Colonial I just woke up.

703
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: I was feeling horrible and I have no idea what

704
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: was going on. I shot like sixty four or sixty

705
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: five in the first round. I was like first or

706
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: second place went out, made birdie on the first couples

707
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: went ou. I'm feeling better then, I like hit a

708
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: ball five yards left of the fairway on three paced,

709
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: the tree kicks forty yards left out of bounds, and

710
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just like don't want to be here

711
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: right now, man, Like what are we doing? And yeah,

712
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: you're just like, dude, this sucks. Like I feel like crap,

713
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: it's one hundred degrees out before it or like there's

714
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: not enough ice on this planet to like keep these

715
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: coolers like from melting, and you just kind of you

716
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: kind of have to dig deep and suck it up.

717
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like damn, Like I know ten thousand kids

718
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: that would give their left arm for an opportunity to

719
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: be where I am right now, And I know one

720
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty guys on the corn Ferry tour that

721
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I want to come take my job if I just

722
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: want to bow out just not not put an effort

723
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: right now. So you kind of gotta just dig deep

724
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: and go out there and try and execute. You know,

725
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: just give whatever you have that day. You know some

726
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: days you know it's not feeling great, not feeling great, putting,

727
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: not feeling great, whatever, Just go give it whatever you

728
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: have with what you have that day, and that's kind

729
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: of all you can you know, not saying like it's

730
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: going to be perfect, but just find a way to

731
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of be greasy and get in a hole sometimes.

732
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: And I think some guys are really really good at

733
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: doing that, like John Perry or Rookie He's really good

734
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: and just get on like like a day that he's

735
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: just like not having a good one and stuff like

736
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: that's impressive. It's almost more impressive sometimes than a guy

737
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: that's just like blacked out hitting everything where he wants to.

738
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: It's like I did, he's just feeling it. But like

739
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: someone turning a seventy two into a sixty nine when

740
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: clearly it's just not going the layer. They're just not

741
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: in a good spot physically or mentally. It's that's almost

742
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: more impressive than really really really elital.

743
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: I feel like if you like look at a basic level,

744
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: like the difference between PGA Tour golf, like and then

745
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: like the different like if you thought of it as

746
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: like tiers of golfers all the way down to the

747
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: corn ferries, just like who who shoots sometimes the best

748
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: bad round?

749
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's who's who's like C minus game

750
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: is like the most consistent, right, Like you know, everyone

751
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: can miss a cut. Everyone can shoot seventy five, but

752
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: like you know, Xander Shoffley, when he shoots seventy one,

753
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: it probably should be seventy three. He's just really good

754
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: at shading two shots off. Like play with them Sunday

755
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: at Augusta this year and he shot sixty eight and

756
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: it looked like a seventy two the whole time, and

757
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: it was just like, I felt like he didn't get

758
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: anything out around and he turned it into something really

759
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: solid on a day that was playing difficult. And that's

760
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: super impressive, and that's why he's one of the best

761
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: at what he does. You'll see guys on corn Ferry

762
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: and America's Tour, many tours, and you know, hey, man,

763
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: driver's just not there. We're still hitting drive and it's

764
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: going sixty yards offline. We'll find it and we'll hit

765
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: it again. It's like that that doesn't fly sometimes at

766
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the highest level. Sometimes you just got to find a

767
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: way to get in the hole. Even if you know,

768
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: even if your stats guy tells you can striver on

769
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: the soul, dude, you got to make a decision in

770
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: that moment. Three iron or four arm might be awesome,

771
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: just like get let's just get it in the fair

772
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: away figured out from there. And obviously, you know, some

773
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: guys are really good at feeling you know, a shot

774
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: or feeling good or stepping up to the plate executing

775
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: something really spectacular. But it's the guys that can just

776
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: kind of manage their misses, like they never really miss

777
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: it in the wrong spot, They're just kind of missing

778
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: it in the right spot all day. Like those are

779
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: the guys that end up, you know, with really long,

780
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: really successful careers.

781
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: Do you think I I, you know, just spark something.

782
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: Is there like an art to like really having a

783
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: great feel of an event in a tournament and like

784
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: when you need to push and when you need to

785
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: just you know, is there is that an art in

786
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: tournament golf.

787
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: It's there's like an intangible momentum shift feel that some

788
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: guys have when it comes to you know, stepping on

789
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: the gas on like a Friday afternoon, Saturday afternoon, or

790
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, kind of finding a way to squeak in

791
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: a mad cut, like like there are guys that just

792
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: have that, and I think I'm I'm pretty good at that.

793
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: But I'd say the biggest thing is, like, you know,

794
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: for example, I've talked about this with my sports psychologists

795
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: A decent amount if I just hit like a really

796
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: bad shot or a make a really stupid three put

797
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: or just something really ridiculous, or I'm upset, Like being

798
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: pissed off is like a super power for me, Like

799
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the next shot that I hit is

800
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: usually exactly what I want to do, and leaning into

801
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: that being a little bit more aggressive when I have

802
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: that feeling like not being stupid, but like, hey, like

803
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: there's a couple of bunkers, Dude, hit driver, because like

804
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit it right where I'm like where

805
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: I want to because I'm so frustrated with you know,

806
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: a ball bouncing off a flagstick or this in a

807
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: fore foot or whatever it might be, that I'm using

808
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: all of that frustration and all that negative energy and

809
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: it's just like I channel it somehow subconsciously into the

810
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: next shot is always nine percent of the time it's

811
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: right where I want it. So just understanding that I

812
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: think some guys are really good at, you know, other things,

813
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: but like I'd say, for me, that's kind of something

814
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: that I've learned and something that I can kind of

815
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: take advantage of. Obviously, it sucks because you have to

816
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: play that in order to then use it.

817
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 2: But you got to figure out how to get the urge, right.

818
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just but then you then you end up

819
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: being grumpy the whole day, and that's not really what

820
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: I want. So it's it's a it's a happy medium.

821
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: But i'd say there's there's a there's an art. It's

822
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: it's not really describable, but it is. You can see

823
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: it on some guys faces, Like if you want, Patrick

824
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: can't lay. You can see the look on his face

825
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: when like it's time to kind of go. It's it's

826
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: a different look. You can see it on like I

827
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: guess Rory's like bouncey walk is probably something that a

828
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: lot of people have noticed. Like that's like an interconfidence

829
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: thing about like when he knows he's feeling it and

830
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: it's go time, like that's what comes out. And it's

831
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: just like he's probably not even thinking about it. It's

832
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: just subconscious, but like that's how he that's how you

833
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: can kind of tell.

834
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was watching The three m yesterday and

835
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, it's just like you know,

836
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: there's some puts didn't drop for him, but you could

837
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: just see Scotty just go into like full flight in

838
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: the back half of that round where he's just it's

839
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: felt like he was just like a little bit more

840
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: locked it off the tee, but then the approach shots

841
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: he he zeros in. And you see this at Majors though,

842
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: on like Friday afternoon, where he knows he has like

843
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: opportunities to put the pedal down and distance himself and

844
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: it becomes like does he make the putts coming in

845
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: or not? And that's the difference, you know. It's just

846
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: it's wild to be watching some players and just how

847
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: they have just a knack for kind of working themselves

848
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: up the board at certain times in tournaments.

849
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just yeah, Saturday at Quail PGA last year, Scottie,

850
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm standing on sixteen fairway. I watch him hit the

851
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: one to two feet on fourteen and he makes the

852
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: putt and then obviously like I don't see the shots

853
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: until after, but like you hear everything that he's doing

854
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: the whole way and it's like that is that's where

855
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: he won. That golf tournament was Saturday afternoon. Just stepping

856
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon Eagle Birdie's eighteen, Like you can see

857
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: the emotion, like that that more in that moment, and

858
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: like that's that's why he's the world number one. But

859
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: he's awesome at what he does. But that inate ability

860
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: to just kind of like push that hard on a

861
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: Saturday and just kind of like run through the finish line.

862
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Like running through the finish line is a really important skill,

863
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to collapse on eighteen, but just

864
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: the way in which he did it on that day,

865
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: like that one an golf tournament.

866
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: And didn's so much what you know, what you've been

867
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: talking about is like it's like this idea like running

868
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: through the finish line. Like the natural inclination is to

869
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: like protect, you know, and it's like I just have

870
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: to get this to the house, but you know it's

871
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: breaking through and running. I'm curious with you your experience.

872
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: You know, you've obviously you've contended a ton of tour events.

873
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: I would say this, this major, this the Open Championship,

874
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: was your first like real in the cauldron moment in

875
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 2: a major. You you were in the second to last

876
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: group on Sunday, What was it? What were the feels

877
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: like in a major versus a PGA tour event and

878
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: and kind of that was obviously your first Links experience,

879
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about about how that week felt,

880
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: and and and in the weekend in particular.

881
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Link's golf is so sick, like like

882
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: we played I played Renaissance last year and it was

883
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: just like it's cool, like but then you get to like.

884
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: Burked out. It's like, oh, okay, this is this is real,

885
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Like this is real golf. And just kind of finding

886
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: a way to navigate around bunkers as a hazard is

887
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: like such a foreign concept to me as an American

888
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: who's like playing ninety nine percent of his golf in

889
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: like the United States, where the ball is just like

890
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: point and shoot that you have to be like so

891
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: considerate with your targets, but also like landing number off

892
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: the tee, being seventy short of a bunker or sixty

893
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: short of a bunker, or flying this one that staying

894
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: short of this one, Like that's it's never something that

895
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: we really think about on PGA Tour because the ball

896
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: doesn't roll that much. And like if you hitt in

897
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: a bunker, like yeah, it's a hazard, but like ninety

898
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: five percent of time and be able to hit a

899
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: seven iron out of there and be just fine. So

900
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: I'd say like just kind of learning that understanding that

901
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: being able to get really comfortable hitting off turf that

902
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: that's is that firm, it doesn't really have that much

903
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: grass on it. It's almost like kind of like compact

904
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: dirt and spots like that's that's kind of a skill.

905
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you're shallow or you're kind of a

906
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: little stuck, like it's just not a good combo for

907
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: that kind of shot, Like you're just never going to

908
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: be able to hit any consistency off that off that surface.

909
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: But also like the balls just not gonna fly properly

910
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have debris in a way, or it's

911
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: it's almost like hitting a chunky bunker shot. It's just

912
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: not it's gonna it's gonna not spin. So I'd say

913
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: it was lucky enough for me. It's like I felt

914
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: like I was compressing it nicely and it kind of

915
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: to can choose my spots and hit hit the shots

916
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: the way I wanted to off there. But just yeah,

917
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: being in the being in the hunt on Sunday, I

918
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: felt like I was hitting good golf shots and kind

919
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: of got to a spot where I felt like I

920
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: need to push a little bit. This a short putt

921
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: for birdie on nine, and just kind of gave myself

922
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: some chances on the back nine and just made no birdies,

923
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: which is really really brutal, but yeah, it's just it

924
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: was cool being in spot. It was cool being with

925
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: ci Wu, who was leading for a decent part of

926
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: the afternoon there, and just done, Like, man, it's not

927
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: that far off, like like I needed to put that,

928
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: or I needed to get something in the hole, I

929
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: needed to you know, clean up a few things, but

930
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: like I was right there and I didn't really I

931
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: really didn't feel like I had my a game at

932
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: all all week. It was just kind of like I

933
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: was just doing a really good job of managing this

934
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: is strategically a place in the ball and just kind

935
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: of when I had a chance, I would, you know,

936
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: make a fifteen footer occasionally. So I felt really good

937
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: about just the way that everything kind of came together,

938
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: and it was a little bit of validation of like,

939
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, the things that you are working on at

940
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: home in the gym mentally, like they are paying off,

941
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: because I played a lot better off than that this

942
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: year and I had a chance to kind of win

943
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: coming down a stretching major.

944
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: So it's you know, it's it's fascinating like majors, right,

945
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: like the only one player wins. And I think something

946
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: that has kind of become really evident this year and

947
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: it's probably been evident so many other years, is you

948
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: know with between Aaron Raye at the PGA and uh

949
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: and Ryan fox at this year's Open, is like you

950
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: have the battles getting yourself into a position where you

951
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: can go out and play the nine of a lifetime

952
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: and and and snag one of them, and you know,

953
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: like you it had to be incredible to know you

954
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: were just right there and if you hit you know

955
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: a lot of great shots, it could have been you

956
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: lifting the cleric.

957
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Yet yeah, I mean I think a lot of things

958
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: would have to go my way and Foxy stepped up

959
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: and executed awesome shots and awesome puts down the stretch.

960
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it. I mean, it just shows

961
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: you that, like se'd like I played all four majors

962
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: this year, it felt like we were playing Thursday in

963
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: augusta two weeks ago. Like it's a very short compact

964
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: period of time. They kind of fly by their there's

965
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: so much noise and energy all of those weeks that

966
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: you just kind of end up spending a lot more

967
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: time than you think you're going to, like not doing

968
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: just bs, but like there's so many more obligations, there's

969
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: so much more logistical stuff that goes on, and you're

970
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: just out there, you know, working hard, trying to make

971
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: make sure that when you get to Thursday, you feel ready.

972
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: You feel good about the golf course, you feel good

973
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: about whether you're planning, feel so much sharp. But I think,

974
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, seeing that being in the mix, making a

975
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: few cuts, you know, having having some later tea times

976
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday at Augusta and then at Birkedale, it kind

977
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: of gives me a good feel for you know, how

978
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: I want to go about things next year, like from

979
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: a logistic standpoint, from a planning standpoint, from a planning

980
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: the schedule around the major standpoint. I guess as like

981
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: a first year playing all four of them, you know,

982
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're getting into until you

983
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: get into them. And now you can see why Adam

984
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: Scott goes four days before tournament week to go play

985
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, Shinnacock for three days and then he takes

986
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: a day off on Monday, like, guys have their own quirks,

987
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: they have their things that they want to do, they

988
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: have things that work for them. Some guys like playing

989
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: the week before, some guys don't. And I'm starting to

990
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: figure out what works best for me, and like how

991
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: I can better incorporate my kind of schedule into how

992
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: to prepare for those kind of bigger tournaments, because, like

993
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: you said, there's only four of them, there's only one winner,

994
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: and they need a heck of a lot more than

995
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: everything else. So you got to go up and show

996
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: up and be ready to buck, because you know, if

997
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: you kind of lay an egg, it's like you're pissing

998
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: away boned opportunity.

999
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 2: You told my colleague Joseph Lamonia after Sunday at the Masters,

1000
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't think my game the way it was this

1001
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: week was as prepared for the test of a Sunday

1002
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: at Augusta as I thought it was going to be.

1003
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: As you sit now done with all four majors, and

1004
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: reflect on that, what what what did you feel like

1005
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: you weren't really ready for?

1006
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I played so good on Saturday at Augusta that I

1007
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: thought that I could just do the same thing on

1008
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: Sunday in different conditions and not have to change strategy

1009
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: at all and not whatever. I wasn't as sharp and

1010
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: that didn't lend itself to being successful. But you know,

1011
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Saturday was gettable. It wasn't easy, but it was gettable.

1012
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: Sunday was not, and I didn't I didn't execute golf

1013
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: shots the way I needed to. But I also didn't

1014
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: put myself in a position to execute those shots because

1015
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: where I was looking off the tee or where I

1016
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: was looking into the green or some of the club selections,

1017
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was almost playing for either of the

1018
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: perfect shot. And then once I didn't execute great shots

1019
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: early on that I was almost playing too safe because

1020
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to just not mess up. And it's

1021
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: really hard to stand on twelve t at Augusta and

1022
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: not mess it up. It's not a fun feeling. And

1023
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I hit bad golf shots, because I

1024
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: don't think I hit bad golf shots. I just think

1025
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: the line at that golf course, in particular, when it

1026
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: gets firm, when pins are tucked, the line between really

1027
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: good and really bad is so thin, and once you

1028
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: kind of get on the wrong side of it, you

1029
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: start kind of pressing a little bit. Then you learn

1030
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: very quickly that that's not what you should do, but

1031
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: you're already so far behind the eight ball that kind

1032
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: of like struggling. So I would say those are all,

1033
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, things that you kind of pick up and

1034
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: it's really hard to diagnose in the moment standing on

1035
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: eleven tea box when you're three or four over and

1036
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: be like, hey, we gotta, you know, do this. But

1037
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: I think I have enough experience now where if you

1038
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: put myself back into that situation, I can get it

1039
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: in the house a lot better. And it's it's just

1040
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say it's just experience, but at a

1041
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: certain point, like you have to learn it for yourself

1042
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: before you can kind of truly believe it. And you

1043
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: can listen to a million people talk about how to

1044
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: hit a golf shot, but until you go swing the

1045
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: club for yourself, like it's it's really really hard to understand,

1046
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, exactly the intricacies of what you want to

1047
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: do in that moment. So I think that's why I

1048
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was prepared is because I wasn't.

1049
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't sharp enough on Sunday, I wasn't My strategy

1050
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, I was playing too aggressive early, and

1051
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: then when things weren't going great early.

1052
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 4: I I deviated from the strategy and not to a

1053
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 4: better strategy, to a one that was worst, which was, hey,

1054
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 4: let's just play really safe and like not hit it

1055
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 4: in the water and make big numbers.

1056
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: Well, if you don't make big numbersup because you're gonna

1057
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: make bogies, those aren't fun either because those pile up.

1058
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just a nice combination of things

1059
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: going on there.

1060
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it's amazing to hear a little bit,

1061
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: like you know, obviously the Augusta has a long history

1062
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: of like no no first time or winning since Fuzzy,

1063
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: and it's it's almost as like the golf course can

1064
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: to use a poker expression, it puts you on tilt

1065
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: almost quicker than anywhere else.

1066
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: It it puts you on tilt, but it also puts

1067
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: you in a position to to fail and like it's

1068
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, but if you don't understand why

1069
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: you're hitting the shot to a certain spot, it's really

1070
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: hard to trust it. Like, you know, if you took

1071
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, ped Scott's got probably the best record

1072
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: at Augusta or Stevie Williams. That's the best You took

1073
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: those guys out with the first timer. They could tell

1074
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: you to hit it exactly where you want to hit it.

1075
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: And there's a legendary caddy there, Steve Kling, He's fantastic.

1076
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: He could tell you exactly where to hit it. It's

1077
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: hard as a player to just trust that that's the shot,

1078
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: or that's the spot, or I'm standing over the wind,

1079
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the twelfth te I have no idea

1080
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: where the wind's coming from. It's blowing down wind on eleven,

1081
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: and it's blowing into the wind on thirteen, and it's

1082
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: colliding in the middle of somewhere. And for the life

1083
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: of me, the flag stick on eleven's going one way.

1084
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: The flag stick on twelve is going the other way.

1085
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: And how am I supposed to hit this one hundred

1086
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: and fifty yard web shot to a really tight target

1087
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: having absolutely no idea what I'm doing? Do? I just

1088
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: hope because that doesn't feel like a good strategy. So

1089
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: then it's like, well, why don't we play safe? And

1090
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: it's like, well, then you hit in the back bunker,

1091
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: you hit the goalie long, and like those aren't great spots,

1092
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: or then you get aggressive on Sunday and you're like

1093
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: trying to put it to the middle of the green

1094
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: and you just kind of hit you dump it somewhere,

1095
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Like those are like the easiest things in the world.

1096
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: Happened because you haven't been in the position to step

1097
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: up and have listened to Jack talk about it or

1098
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: Tiger talking. Oh, you just gotta have the middle of

1099
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: gring on twelve, dude, the middle of green is seven

1100
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: yards wide, Like it's not like it's just like, yeah,

1101
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: just hit the middle of the green. Oh yeah, just

1102
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: hit that parking lot, dude, Like it's it's tight, like

1103
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,479
Speaker 1: it's tiny. So but just getting up there and trusting, like, hey,

1104
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: the wind on thirteen, that's the wind that I want it.

1105
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: That's the wind that I'm taking in consideration when I'm

1106
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: on that tee, Like you get you get so blindsided

1107
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: that you just play eleven down the hill and the

1108
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: pin on eleven's bowing the direction that's probably down off

1109
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: the left. On twelve teen, it's probably not down off

1110
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: the left. It's probably in off the right because that's

1111
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: where it's blowing on thirteen. And it just takes you

1112
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: time to try and figure it out. And even if

1113
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't blow into the wind off the right on

1114
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: thirteen and you miss it right and it goes in

1115
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: the middle of green or whatever, you have to trust

1116
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: that the next time you get up on that T

1117
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: shot or on that box and have to hit that

1118
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: T shot, you have to trust something again. And that's

1119
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: kind of the magic of the place. But you know,

1120
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: there's no let up, there's no there's no sigh of relief.

1121
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: On the back nine. You can make a lot of

1122
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: Jodey's and eagles, like you can execute good golf thoughts,

1123
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: but the whole time it's like, I'm have the land

1124
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: this five iron on fifteen within fifteen feet at the

1125
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: front edge of this green. Otherwise it's going long, and

1126
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: long is not good. But landing within fifteen p to

1127
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: the front edge meets bringing in the front water and

1128
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: that's really not good. So what do you do? You

1129
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: do you bail out or do you step up and

1130
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: xpet the golf shot? So it's it's it's a magical place.

1131
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: It's special. You talk to guys who have been there

1132
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: for a while and they start to understand certain tendencies,

1133
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: But dude, it's there's it's hard to describe to first

1134
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: time or right me being the first time er, like

1135
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: how you're going to feel on certain shots because I

1136
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: can play a million practice rounds, But when I stand

1137
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: up on sixteen t on Sunday to a weird pin

1138
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: and wins there and you just walked off doing whatever

1139
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: you did on fifteen, and it's like this is not

1140
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: what I hit two weeks ago on a Tuesday. Like this,

1141
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: I was hitting seven iron, not nine iron, And it's

1142
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: greens are so much firmer.

1143
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, trust, trust and commitment are the hardest things.

1144
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: Like I can't I think about this all the time.

1145
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this the other day after

1146
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: I played last week. I like, will go, I'll look

1147
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: at a shot, I'll look where the flag is, and

1148
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: then like if I have to hit over like a

1149
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: hill or a bunker, and I come back to the

1150
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 2: ball and I'm like standing over the ball and I

1151
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: like know, I know where I'm supposed to be aiming,

1152
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: but I like freak out and I'll be like, well,

1153
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: what if it moved? What if I got it wrong?

1154
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: Like what if you know? It's like it's like crazy

1155
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: stuff when you're playing golf, Like and what you definitely

1156
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 2: always do is you air to the side of safety,

1157
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: but there's a safety safe spot in your mind that

1158
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: you think is safe as oftentimes maybe even worse than

1159
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: if you just commit. You know, it's just a it's

1160
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: a wild game. The mental struggles of commitment and golfer

1161
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: just insane. It's like, and I feel like when you

1162
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: boil down, like when do I hit my bad shots?

1163
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: It almost always is when well, like that was the

1164
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: least committed swing that I made all day.

1165
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to commit to it. And I

1166
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: think guys on the PGA Tour are really get at

1167
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: committing the shots, but it's so hard to trust, Like

1168
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: I can commit to it. But if I don't trust that,

1169
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: like I'm hitting the right golf club, I'm committed, then

1170
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: are you committed? Like if my caddie tells me, like,

1171
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: HiT's into the wind, I'm like, dude, so it's not.

1172
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: And then we're arguing about it, and then we come

1173
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: through a conclusion that it isn't to the wind. It

1174
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter like whether or not we're right, It matters

1175
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: that there was so much thought that went into it,

1176
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: and there was confusion or we got a number wrong

1177
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be that you're not as prepared

1178
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: to hit that golf shot as you would be if

1179
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: you just like walked up shot with a range finder

1180
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: and you just like striped it on like a Wednesday

1181
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: afternoon when you're playing in a car, Like you don't.

1182
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: I love you can't replicate that.

1183
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: I love how like every caddy player conversation, when it's

1184
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: a drawn out conversation, always has with the caddy being like,

1185
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: now trust it, trust it?

1186
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, what else are you gonna say, like

1187
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 5: a dude, Like, I don't know, man, just do whatever?

1188
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 5: Like and I think if you if you notice, like

1189
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: most really long caddy player combos, like they end up

1190
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 5: with the player picking with whatever they were going to

1191
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 5: start to with anyway, So it's like it's probably not

1192
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 5: the right club because a caddie very rarely will step

1193
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 5: in and say something if he thinks it's right, So

1194
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 5: like it probably already, you know, with the wrong club

1195
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 5: or the wrong number or the wrong ballflight, and then

1196
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 5: there's indecision and then you're standing over it and it's like, well, now.

1197
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: Trust it, Like, well, what else do you want me

1198
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: to do? Man? Do you want me to just wait?

1199
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: Here and for the caddy that the next twenty seconds

1200
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: are the most uncomfortable periods of their day where they're

1201
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: just hope praying that a good jock comes out.

1202
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: It's like, please just just middle the face. I don't

1203
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: really care what I said, just like, please middle the face.

1204
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: We can figure it out from around the screen.

1205
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: Let's get you out of here with some more lighthearted

1206
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: uh questions. If you so, if you could transport one

1207
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: course that you play on tour to your backyard. This

1208
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: is a question I've never asked, And that was the

1209
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: course that you got to like work on your game

1210
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: at the rest of your life, where that like you're

1211
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: playing there the rest of your life when you're just home.

1212
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: Which one would it be? And why? You know? And

1213
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: this is like not necessarily as course, but where where

1214
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 2: would you want to go work on your game?

1215
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: And that's really tough one. I think like the obvious

1216
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: answer is Quail Hollow, which I know there's probably some

1217
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: uproar from the the egg folks about being picking that

1218
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: golf course here.

1219
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: Everybody loves Quail Hollow. Everybody I talked to you loves

1220
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 2: Quail Hollow.

1221
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: But from a getting your game prepared to play at

1222
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: a high level on the PGA Tour and compete. That

1223
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: golf course kind of does it. The practicilities are great,

1224
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: The shots that you have to hit are great. You

1225
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: hit a lot of different clubs. You're not really hitting

1226
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of wedges. You're hitting some wedges, submit iron,

1227
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: some long irons, a lot of t shots with small

1228
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: clubs fixing in left to right, right to left. Like

1229
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: I think it might not be the most architecturally significant

1230
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: golf course on the PGA Tour, but I think it

1231
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: is something that forces you to test a lot of

1232
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: your skills and then it would probably prepare me well

1233
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: for majors, just like a fun one, like someplace that

1234
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: I wish was just in my backyard. Yokohama Country Club

1235
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: in Japan, the new one for the Bank Current. That

1236
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: place is sick. That place is unreal. I don't know

1237
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: what time it is in the US when we're playing there,

1238
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: but set it. Set an alarm because it's it's awesome.

1239
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: I uh, I'll never forget this for the rest of

1240
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: Joseph's career. I was in I was in his town

1241
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: of Austin last year and I was like, hey, man,

1242
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: do you want to go out to dinner and he's like, no,

1243
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: I got to watch the bake Current. It was like

1244
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: Thursday night. I was like, all right, sounds good. But

1245
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: the but I could see that with Quail Hollow because

1246
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: like the other thing about Quayle Hollow is like I

1247
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: feel like there's enough space off the tee where you

1248
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: would get confident with the driver, like you wouldn't want

1249
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: to play somewhere where like it's like, Okay, if I

1250
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: have a good day driving driving it, I might hit

1251
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: like seven fairways, you know, like you can like hit

1252
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: a lot of fairways and then you as you said,

1253
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: the variety into the green, all the different irons you hit.

1254
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not picking Tory for that reason. I'm not

1255
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: picking heritage. I'm not picking Yeah, a.

1256
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: Couple of kicks your ass.

1257
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if the members at Memorial even want

1258
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: to play Memorial that much, but like it's Quil feels

1259
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: like a really good middle ground where you can work

1260
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: on your game, hit a lot of different shots, and

1261
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: it would just it prepares. In my opinion, it's probably

1262
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: the best prep for like modern PGA Tour, high level

1263
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: major championship golf that you kind of have if you

1264
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: just can do that every day.

1265
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: What's been your favorite city on tour to visit.

1266
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go like US cities because like you can't

1267
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: like I can't say Cabo, I can't say Japan or

1268
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: something cool like that. Dude, It's like.

1269
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,440
Speaker 2: Just stand at a resort.

1270
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. Uh, you know, I really like I'm

1271
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna do a lot of hate. I really like Hartford, Connecticut.

1272
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: The pizza is awesome. You can kind of just walk around.

1273
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of there's not a lot of traffic.

1274
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: We don't we don't go to that many great cities. Uh,

1275
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: I don't know. Bring back the bring back the BMW

1276
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: to Chicago so we can go get deep dish.

1277
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: We got the You gotta just make the President's Cup team.

1278
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: Then you're you're in.

1279
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: We'll work on that.

1280
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: You're you're right on the doorstep. What was your favorite

1281
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: uh major host in twenty six and h which one

1282
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: of your most excited for in twenty seven? You've got

1283
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: a pressure on the twenty seventy.

1284
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me please.

1285
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Speaker 2: So you got the Masters, You had PGA Frisco, which

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure some on the tip of your tongue. Uh,

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01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: Pebble Beach in the old Course.

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Speaker 1: Well, totally forgot that Frisco existed. Yeah, it's not gonna

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01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: be that last I think, I think the old Course.

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: I think the Old Course is probably said. I'm gonna say, hi,

1291
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: what's up?

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01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: Joel?

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: Can't hear anything you're saying in a lot of beerphones.

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01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 6: But uh oh wait, this is the other fancy Andy,

1295
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 6: what's up?

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01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: What do you guys? Hey? Friday Egg? Yeah, he's asking

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01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 1: how the architecture is this week.

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't seen it. Looks cool. What

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: did you think of it?

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01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I do nothing. Are you excited

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: for PGA Frisco next year? Please?

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 6: Can't wait to be at Homewa washing another mature of

1303
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 6: my couch. I'm all dude, I can't wait for that

1304
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 6: challenge series. I could hang out with the old people

1305
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 6: and not dealing with guys like dr Ark.

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: What do you guys think of the new setup?

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01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, obviously, seems okay. I don't really know

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: what's going on.

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: That's true.

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: We're hoping for the three one three challenge this week.

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: Someone do.

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01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: Somebody's got to do it eventually, you know, well enough simulations.

1313
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, three five or something like a thousand years.

1314
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 2: From now, we can do it. Well, you know that

1315
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: we had an undergrad uh in foremost that it costs

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01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: like the insurance policy for it costs like like less

1317
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: than five hundred dollars a year.

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's impossible.

1319
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 6: The underwriters for like your local club championship with like

1320
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 6: a golf cart to win it is more expensive than

1321
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 6: the three ones retail is.

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but this could be the year. My favorite

1323
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: is like when the problem is the middle being the

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: one it routed, You're never gonna get close, Like nobody's

1325
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: going to go three to one. But if it was,

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: there's no one, I feel like you have one.

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01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: Make it on sixteen. You're not making three on sixteen

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01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: after you just make one a drama for it, You're right.

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01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 6: And also guys like me who hit like normal, I

1330
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 6: can't even reach the part five to get there in two.

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: So PJ says to the pod, you might feel running

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: up there.

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, great, can't wait. My layup got easier. I can

1334
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 6: take a ton an angle with the new architecture.

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 2: Joel right, right didn't didn't really have an answer with this,

1336
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: what's the best city to visit on tour Orland.

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 1: That's a good one, dude.

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01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 6: The food if you don't stay down too late, like

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 6: we're not supposed to and you all the spot New Orleans.

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01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: That's my favorite.

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: So you pick New Orleans over Hartford, that's what will

1342
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: or what?

1343
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

1344
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: What?

1345
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: Ryan pas Well?

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 6: West Hartford has phenomenal food as well, so like you

1347
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 6: can still find it, but it's just easier to find

1348
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,959
Speaker 6: a New Orleans and it's walkable.

1349
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm a I'm a big fan of New Orleans.

1350
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: Favorite restaurant in New Orleans.

1351
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 6: There you got, there's like four of them, but uhh,

1352
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 6: you put me on the spot. It's a divy spot.

1353
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 6: You have sugar teeth the door, there's cobbleins on the wall.

1354
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 6: It's like fried chicken and your red beans and rice.

1355
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 6: Hopefully one of your listeners will be oh man and

1356
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 6: so we've been going. My wife found it before we

1357
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 6: met each other, like fifteen years ago.

1358
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: It's our spot. Oh Coops Place.

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 6: Coops Place is the spot, and it's like divy and

1360
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 6: it's gross and it's delicious.

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01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's great, great rats, good place.

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01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna go back to and maybe something

1363
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 6: I'll be smart enough to on this podcast.

1364
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: You were on the pod, you were on the pod

1365
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: years ago.

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 6: It was a long time ago. Now you're like big

1367
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 6: and famous, these are great.

1368
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 2: We're we're not We're not. Uh, we're not big enough.

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01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 6: And guys are big tire, yes, yeah.

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01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: Give the platform. Now. When I was on, it was

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: like the normal road.

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 6: Guess he just tried to be getting kid, the funny

1373
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 6: guy on actually someone smart enough to be able to.

1374
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,480
Speaker 2: I would say that you're too big for this podcast,

1375
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: because like when I when I go visit my friends,

1376
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: they're like, you know, I watched Full Swing and I

1377
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: really like that to old damon guy. Do you know him?

1378
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: And so I would say the same, that you're actually

1379
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 2: bigger than us.

1380
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 6: I'm at fourteen minutes and fifty five seconds of this thing,

1381
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 6: so the bucking hat and that looks only last so

1382
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 6: long that you gotta start winning golf tournaments.

1383
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: So I'm back. I'm back. I got I got a

1384
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 1: few seconds left of this.

1385
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 6: I'm not quite in my broadcasting career, but we're we're

1386
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,919
Speaker 6: a few months away potential.

1387
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 2: No, no, see, this is this is Johnson Wagner.

1388
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: We got we got a chance. I gotta gotta fight

1389
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: and chance against.

1390
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: This is the self deprecation that everybody loves. A full

1391
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: swing in full force here.

1392
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: Well, just be careful. I've actually made four cuts in

1393
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: a row. I'm kind of hot. A couple of weeks

1394
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,839
Speaker 1: more play, so that's yeah, I'm worried.

1395
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get you back on, you know, I think.

1396
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: I do.

1397
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 6: I love to check off, all right, I'm inn let's

1398
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 6: let's Ryan. He was just looking lonely over here with

1399
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 6: an umbrella in the locker room. So if you're gonna

1400
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 6: chime in, Joe, see.

1401
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: Dogs coming on. That is the the one guy on

1402
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: tour that you want to see when you're when you're

1403
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: just like not feeling great, because he'll he'll come make

1404
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: your You'll make your life happy no matter what happens.

1405
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: Uh. That's a that's amazing. All right. Well, last boat

1406
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: at least? Uh, well, last boat not least. How do

1407
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: you feel about the North Carolina Athletic Department? That was

1408
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: my last question for you.

1409
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: That's a great question, Andy. Uh oh. I think we

1410
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: have a football general manager that is currently suspended for

1411
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: undisclosed reasons, so I couldn't possibly venture to guess what

1412
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: that might be. We did, we did have a we

1413
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: did have a top five draft pick to the Chicago Bulls.

1414
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: So I feel I feel really good about KAYLEB Wilson.

1415
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: He's a stud. You know, in a world where ni

1416
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: L is kind of reigning supreme, it's I think it's

1417
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: it's it's actually really difficult for a school like UNC

1418
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 1: or Stanford that has a lot of really really good sports.

1419
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: I think UNC is twenty eight sports or something like

1420
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: that between men's and women's to to really be able

1421
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: to fund all of them properly and with title nown

1422
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: and all sorts of other NCAA kind of restrictions that

1423
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: I have on it. I think it's there's almost like

1424
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: so much going on, and they're really good at They're

1425
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: unbelievable at like soccer and field hockey and swimming and

1426
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: diving and stuff like that. Obviously, you want them to

1427
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: be really good at basketball and football because that's where

1428
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: the most TV time and the most money comes from.

1429
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: But I think just in a world where there's so

1430
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: much of it is how much can you pay a

1431
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: guy to show up? It's it's hard to it's hard

1432
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: to compete when you don't have quite the budget We're

1433
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: not We're not in full of bullet Billy being moneyball

1434
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: territory with absolutely no budget, and I think they'll be

1435
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: pretty solid this year in the basketball basketball world. It's

1436
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: just gonna be really hard for us to keep with football.

1437
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: We're not an SEC school. You know. Coach Belichick has

1438
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,839
Speaker 1: a has a has a very good history of coaching,

1439
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: but it'll be very difficult for him to turn the

1440
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: ship around in such a short period of time.

1441
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: That's such a good political answer.

1442
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what else I could say.

1443
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: Man, I'm, you know, as a Chicago sports fan, I'm

1444
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm now just you know, I'm I'm I'm wondering which

1445
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: Caleb w is gonna be gonna be the best Chicago

1446
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: sports icad.

1447
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you have a you have pretty good

1448
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: options here. If if Caleb Wilson is anything close to

1449
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: what Caleb Williams was for you guys last year, I

1450
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: think everyone in Northeast Illinois is going to be stoked.

1451
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: But you know, it's got to give you guys some

1452
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: being to look forward to for six months out of

1453
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: the year.

1454
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: We've got We've got good history with the North Carolina.

1455
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: Picks, you know, so great great history.

1456
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: Ryan, thanks so much for coming on, Thanks for thanks

1457
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: for having Joel join. That was that was an unexpected addition,

1458
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: uh to the pod, and uh we look forward to

1459
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: you uh making a charge here and then seeing you

1460
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: in Chicago in a couple of weeks hopefully.

1461
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for having me appreciate you guys.

1462
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: Thanks to Joel wherever he went off to. But yeah,

1463
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: keep keep killing it and hopefully we'll see you in

1464
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: a little bit in Chicago.

1465
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: All right, big thanks to Ryan, and in the Joel Damon,

1466
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: which we didn't expect, cameo there at the end. Big

1467
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: thanks to both of them, and huge thanks to you

1468
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: guys for for listening, supporting our show, and big thanks

1469
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: to p J. Clark for editing and producing podcast. As always,

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: we'll be back next week with a new episode.