1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: It is another edition, a post week fifteen edition. Hello 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: friends of the Bark Tank, presented by Sugardale back in 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: the home office after the Browns lose to the Chiefs, 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: dried out and warm finally again him ANDREWS Ciciliano. Be 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: sure to like subscribe, share with your friends whomever this show. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate you, and we appreciate everyone that came out 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: as well to Huntington bank Field to see the Browns 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs. It was not the best weather day 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: at all. It was kind of the weather honestly that 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: we thought we would have Week twelve, the Steelers game. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: When you look to the forecast all week that week, 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: heading into that T and F game, you thought cold rain, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: cold rain, cold rain, and obviously we remember what happened 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: by now turned into the snow globe in the second 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: half and the Browns got a thrilling victory. This was 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: not a thrilling victory. It was a gut punch of 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: a defeat, a twenty one to seven defeat against a 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: team that is thirteen and one, a team that has 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Iron can vince he is a shape shifting sorcerer. 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: He practices the dark arts, you can't tackle him, and 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: when you do tackle him, he somehow flips the ball 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: behind his head and he hits DeAndre Hopkins or Juju 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster or Travis Kelce or somebody downfield, and you're like, 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: how did you just do that? But he did. They're great. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: They're thirteen and one, and there have been thirteen times 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: this year, not thirteen, but there have been many, at 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: least ten to eleven times in that thirteen game stretch, 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: thirteen wins stretch where teams say, when man, we could 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: have should have had him, but you don't. And that 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: is to their credit, their credit, meaning the Kansas City 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: Chiefs and Mahomes and Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo their credit, 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: so typically captive them. Nothing I'm going to say here 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: on this podcast is in any way taking away from 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and what they have done. Browns 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: could have should have won the game, and they could 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: have should have played better. They didn't, and that's what's disappointing. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Broken record. Obviously, it's disappointing you've lost this many games. 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: You are three and eleven with three more to go. 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: So the question is who's going to be the quarterback. 40 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: We tape this on Monday afternoon. Kevin Stefanski has already 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: spoken for the day. He did his Monday press availability 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: and then the Browns had some players available standard operating 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: procedure here for Monday. Jerome Ford and Rodney McLeod both spoke. 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: They both spoke of Nick Chubb and everything. We'll get 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: to that in a second, but let's talk about the 46 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: quarterback thing right now. Kevin came in Monday morning and 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: said they still haven't put Sunday's game to bed. His words, 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: and he hasn't yet or isn't yet ready to make 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: an announcement on the quarterback four Week sixteen, which is 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: a one pm start in Cincinnati against the Bengals on Sunday. 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: That game is no longer on Fox. It has been 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: moved to CBS. For whatever that is worth, just make 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: a note of it. Kevin's not yet ready to say 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: who's going to be the quarterback. After Jamis Winston was 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: picked off three more times and Dorian Thompson Robinson had 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to come in and finish that game, I'm going to 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: plant my flag right now now in team DTR, I think, 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: and I am ready to see Dorian Thompson Robinson as 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: this team's quarterback for the final three games. Before I 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: explained why, let me say this about Jamis Winston. Love 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: him both as a person and as a quarterback. I 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: have really, really, really come to love the guy the 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: last two months. I had interviewed him a couple of 64 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: times over the years. Full disclosure, I really didn't know 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Jamis from my days at NFL Network, not that much 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: at all. I rarely went to do the Bucks for 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: training camp when I was there as more than Tom 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Brady era during the Jamis era, I really wasn't on 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: the road down there to see the Bucks much, but 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: it interviewed him over satellite. I love the guy. He 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: is a bright light. He's a gem. He could sling 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: the football. Obviously, the picks are the picks, and as 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: of now, the picks are a problem, clearly a problem. 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: But all of the positive things you hear about Jameis 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Winston in the building, in the locker room, in the 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: community are true. And here's the better part of it. 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot that you haven't heard that is also 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: true and wonderfully positive. Wonderfully positive. Jameis Winston is the 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: guy that remembers everybody's name. He is the guy that 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: asks questions about your life and does so not to 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: make conversation and to avoid talking about himself, but does 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: so because he genuinely cares and wants to hear about you. 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: He's that guy. He is authentic, he is lovable. He's 84 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: good for any and every locker room, team and community 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: mean that. In this setting and this moment, I think 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the Browns organzationally need to see what Dorian Thompson Robinson 87 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: can do with three weeks and full preparation from Monday 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: to Sunday. Knowing that you are the guy here, the 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: keys drive the car. I'd love to see it. When 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: you take a quarterback in the fifth round, or any 91 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: round for that matter, there's no guarantee. But when you 92 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the fifth round and you've seen glimpses, 93 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: you've seen those, eh, you know what I see it? 94 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: He can play. I need more of that. Then you 95 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: should put him back on the field to see if 96 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: you can consistently get those moments. I would love to 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: see it happen. Both can be true. Would love to 98 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: see it happen for DTR personally and the organization, and 99 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: also true grateful that we had this ride with Jamis, 100 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and if it is Jamis, buckle up, let's have fun. 101 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm gonna be cool with that as well. 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: But that's where I stand with the quarterback thing. On 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: the Nick Chubb thing, man, it was heartbreaking. Gotta talk 104 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: to Nathan Szeger, my partner in the booth, coming up shortly. 105 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: I know he felt the same way. Just a gut 106 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: punch when a you saw Nick leave non contact, non 107 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: contact he just started hopping on that foot and it 108 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: broke his foot. The question now turns to next year 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and will Nickchubb be back next year. Contractually, He's at 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: the end of his deal, so he and the Browns 111 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: would have to come to a new deal and he'd 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: have to resign for next season. Don't know how much 113 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: interest there is going to be. I'm going to guess 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: right now that the interest isn't overwhelming come March, not 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: because of Nick Chubb personally or football wise, just he's 116 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: an older running back coming off two injuries. There isn't 117 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: a robust free agent market for that. So that said, 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: I would love to have him back. I want him back. 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Nick said last week he wants to end his career 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: as a Brown He doesn't want to leave Cleveland. I 121 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: think everybody agrees, and I pray, I hope. I think 122 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: that this Sunday was not Nick Chubb's final game at 123 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: a Brown's uniform. Man, it would just be awful on 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: so many levels if that were the case. But business 125 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: is business, and they have to figure out the business. 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Here's hoping all sides can do the business and get 127 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: him back in a Browns uniform next year. And then 128 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: finally on Miles Garrett man so happy that he escaped 129 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: what appears to be serious injury. He was able to 130 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: go to the podium even though his eye was puffy 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: and swallowing the left eye looked like he got un 132 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: punched in the face because in essence he did. Joe 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: Touney had gotten him through the visor. Actually he had 134 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: no visor on, so full disclosure. Back up, Nathan and 135 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: I assumed he had a visor on. He always wears 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: the visor. We had seen the visor earlier in the game, 137 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: but as Miles explained, he had just taken the visor 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: off like one play earlier because with the rain coming down, 139 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: there's no windshield wipers on those things. He was having 140 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: trouble seeing and then he gets poked in the eye, 141 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: said Tooney. Apologized both during the game and after the 142 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: game in the tunnel. They're cool. Miles has nothing against 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Joe Toney. It was not a dirty play, but Miles 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: had feared because he's had LASIX, and without getting too 145 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: far into it, that if he really got poked in 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: the eye and it had disrupted the lay six, you know, 147 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the scar, the flipping, it all that, that it could 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: have been serious. It isn't. He doesn't think went to 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: the eye doctor on Monday. He should be okay. But man, 150 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: that was scary because when you take your helmet off 151 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and your down phase first, you're thinking non contact, same 152 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: side of the field where DeShawn had his injury, and 153 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, that's the worst not downplaying 154 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: an eye. But whoof okay should be okay? Miles also said, 155 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: and this was interesting, that there had been some thought 156 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: to move him around during the game. Obviously, you try 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: to find the best matchup and maybe you move him 158 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to left end opposite right tackle Jowan Taylor, but that 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: never happened because he said that his vision actually played 160 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: a role in that that even moving to the middle, 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: they did Russian b gap a couple of times, kick 162 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: him inside next to my call on the end, but 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: that later in the game he was okay looking forward, 164 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: but looking sideways that he was getting double vision and 165 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: they didn't want to move him around. They wanted to 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: keep him in his comfortable spot there at right end. 167 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: He didn't get to one hundred sacks. He's gotten Joe 168 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Burrow a few times. I know I guaranteed last week 169 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: that he would get it. I don't know he's going 170 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: to get it, and he's going to get it Sunday 171 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: against Joe Burrow or your money back, I kid, I 172 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: always say, well, I guaranteed that, or what Andrew, what 173 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: are you gonna do if he doesn't get it, Well, 174 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: he's going to get it. Miles is sitting on ninety 175 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half and he's going to get it 176 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: before his twenty ninth birthday. He turns twenty nine on 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth. That's the Dolphins game. By the time 178 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: you listen to this, there's a good chance that Dolphins 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: game is going to get flexed out of Sunday night. 180 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: It'll be an afternoon game in Huntington Bankfield. Nothing official, 181 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: but by now you know that's a possibility. Miles turns 182 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine that day that Dolphins game. He will have 183 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: that sack before his twenty ninth birthday. I guarantee it. 184 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: And that's that. That's that three and eleven and now 185 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: moving on to Cincinnati. So we'll have one more show 186 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: here before Christmas. But happy holidays regardless. Hope the season 187 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: is going great for you. I hope the holiday season 188 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: is going great for my next guest, a guy that 189 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: wore a fantastic white coat this past Sunday. So last week, 190 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: after Girod Cherry made his first appearance on the Bark Tank, 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I had heard from Nathan that he didn't get why 192 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: he had been left out, and he so badly wanted 193 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: to come on the Bark Tank. And so after Jirod 194 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: broke the seal here of the three of us working together. 195 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: Now Drod gets on the bar Tank Nathan Zigura a 196 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: post week fifteen Bark Tank appearance. Good to see you, sir. 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: It's good to see you too. 198 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: Well. I'm pretty sure this is actually my second appear, 199 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: so I just wanted to have one more than Jerrott. 200 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Wait, when is there was there a previous appearance that 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I when. 202 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, early in the season, I had to do it. 203 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Did I definitely did it once before. I don't remember when, 204 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: but it was one of the earlier ones for sure. 205 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: You're right, man, this almost calls for redoing this segment, 206 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: but I'm going to keep it into show that I 207 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: make mistakes and you were there, like on a day 208 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: to day basis, week to week basis, in the booth 209 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday to fix my mistakes. Man, I'm embarrassed. This 210 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: is the second time you've been in my home. Wow, Okay, 211 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I guess I'll have to be more memorable this time. 212 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm memorable is that I have no memory. There's huge difference. 213 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: And dude, look we're heading into week sixteen. This this 214 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: is kind of sort of what it's come to. I 215 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: know you did CBD Monday, and I've had countless conversations 216 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: with friends and family as well after watching what we 217 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: saw on Sunday and the cold and the rain and 218 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: a game that could have should have been winnable. But look, 219 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot of teams have said that this year against 220 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: the Chiefs could have been, should have been winnable, and 221 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: then you didn't win them. Browns are now added to 222 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: a list of thirteen teams or thirteen games where it 223 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: could have should have been winnable, and Patrick Mahomes found 224 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: a way to win. It's shooting yourself in the foot collectively, 225 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. What makes it so frustrating. 226 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: We move forward now where we have a quarterback conversation again, Nathan, 227 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I firmly believe, and I say firmly all the while 228 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: still loving me. Jameis Winston. We love him, love him, 229 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: love him as a person. He is a gem. He's 230 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: a ray of bright light that was able to shine 231 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: on this season. That said three games to go, I 232 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: need to see dtr Are you in the same boat? Yeah? 233 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: And I think you know, when we look back at this, 234 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: jamis experience. If this is in fact the end of it. 235 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: Two memorable wins over Baltimore and Pittsburgh. And I think 236 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: the thing that you would give him maybe the most 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: credit for is really unlocking Jerry Judy and showing that 238 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy can be that number one guy that everybody 239 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: thought he was going to be coming out of Alabama 240 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: as a Blittan AKPF Award winner in a first pick 241 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: in Denver. He's over a thousand yards he's been averaging 242 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: over one hundred yards a game, you know, in those 243 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: seven games with Jameis Winston, and so that he did, 244 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: he brought some excitement, he showed how explosive this could be, 245 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: but unfortunately also turned the ball over too much and 246 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: made it impossible for this team to win consistently. And 247 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: in this game it really culminated in right, six turnovers. 248 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Now they're not. 249 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: All on Jameis Winston. In fact, only three of them 250 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: were on Jameis Winston. He had a James Proche fumble 251 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: on a pun and Nick Chubb fumble, which is something 252 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 2: that does not happen very often. 253 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: And then DTR came in there and what and the 254 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: turnover and down, So I'm saying. 255 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: Turnover on downs really is kind of seven, You're right, 256 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: And then you had DTR throw that interception late trying 257 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: to lead that furious comeback. So I do think we 258 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: know what it is with Jamison. It's a kind of 259 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: paralleled his whole career, ability to be incredibly explosive, ability 260 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: to throw for a lot of yards, ability to put 261 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: points on the board, unfortunately for both teams. And that's 262 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: what we saw, you know, over these seven games. The 263 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: Browns lead the league in giveaways over the seven games. 264 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: You can't do that and expect to win. And this 265 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: was a chief scene by the way, that wasn't really 266 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: taking the football away. They had ten takeaways in their 267 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: first thirteen games. They get six in this one. So 268 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: I do think you need to see DTR because you 269 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: need to know, you know, can he be my backup? 270 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: And the last time we saw him prepare for a 271 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: game and start a game was against Denver in Denver 272 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: against the good defense, and his last three possessions all 273 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: were scoring drives, and then he got knocked out with injury, 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: and so part of its he need to see him. 275 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: Can he play, can he stay healthy, and what does 276 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: it look like with the full week of preparation. But 277 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: I would say to DTR, you've got to take care 278 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: of the football too. He's thrown three picks this year 279 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: in very limited time, and we need to see the 280 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: DTR we've seen in the preseason where he's, you know, 281 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: seventy percent passer, moves the offense with both his arm 282 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: and his legs, puts us points on the board, and 283 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: takes care of the football. And I think if the 284 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: onus will be on him to prove that he can 285 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: do that here should he get the opportunity. 286 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: And you've had glimpses here obviously the Cincinnati game, the 287 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: first time where Deshaun got hurt in DTR came. Then 288 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: he finished that touchdown drive, and then early in the 289 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: third quarter made some plays with his legs before he 290 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: too got it injured, banged up a finger, and Jamis 291 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: had to come in. As we tape this on Monday afternoon, 292 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski had said Monday morning he's not yet ready 293 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: to make that quarterback decision. Still trying to process Week 294 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: fifteen and the loss to the Chiefs. I can't assume 295 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: anything this year, but I would hope, not assume, hope 296 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: that it is DTR, all the while knowing that what 297 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: we had with Jamis was kind of special. I don't 298 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: want to put the man at the box. I do 299 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: think he could start and should start in this league. 300 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: But there is good and there is bad. And there 301 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: are some gms, some coaches who when you ask about 302 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: their number two quarterback, they say, well, I'm really good 303 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: with this guy getting me through a couple of game 304 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: stretch middle of the season, coming off the bench when needed, 305 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: and maybe get me through a window a quarter of 306 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: the season while my number one guy comes back. I 307 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: feel like Jamis has firmly planted a flag that he 308 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: can be that guy. Absolutely, can he be a seventeen 309 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: game guy. I don't know yet. I want to bowl 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: believe that he can be. Matter of fact, I'm leaning 311 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: eighty twenty he can be. Not everything is his fault, 312 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: but what we've seen the last couple of weeks, you 313 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: needed to make that change yesterday. Both can be true. 314 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Jamis was great and you needed to make that change. 315 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: And I think organizationally here, even though Kevin will say, 316 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and I'm with him, you gotta win the game. We 317 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: play to win the game this week. Organizationally, you need 318 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: to know if dt are, now in his second season 319 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: as a fifth round pick, can be a piece of 320 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: this team period, whether it's the one, the two, whatever. 321 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: You have to figure that out. A couple of other 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: things here. Obviously, Nick Chubb is heartbreaking. I mean it 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: was a gut punch. I'm leaving the stadium yesterday and 324 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to the airport and fight traffic 325 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: and I see it hit my phone and I was like, oh, man, 326 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: Like I feel so bad for the guy. The good 327 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: news is he likely doesn't need surgery and he can 328 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: be back six eight weeks. Whatever it is, he's not 329 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: gonna play again this year. He can'll be back. But 330 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the question now is will it be here. Nick Chubb's 331 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: contract is up after this season. I know the community, 332 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: the fans certainly want it back. I would think the 333 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: building wants him back as well, and Nick wants to 334 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: be back, but they have to make the business side 335 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: of this work. I firmly do believe Nathan that if 336 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: given more time, we will see the old Nick Chubb, 337 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: at least enough of it that it's worth having him back. 338 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: You don't just come back from shredding everything in your 339 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: knee and return to being a fifteen hundred yard back 340 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: with all that explosiveness. 341 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: Not I think we've seen it. 342 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen it. 343 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: You know, last week he went for four point four 344 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: yards of cary, which was at the time the best. 345 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: This game on Sunday he goes four point six yards 346 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: of carry, which was the best at the time, and 347 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: you saw just way even from the booth, you could 348 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 2: see his acceleration was coming back. This is a probably 349 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: a year and a half, almost two year recovery and 350 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: so next season that's where he's going to be. And 351 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: I think you're going to see Nick Chubb be much better. Absolutely, 352 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, I think should finish his career as a 353 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown. And I know he wants that, and I 354 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: think the organization wants that. I think, you know, as 355 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: I sit here right now in the studio and I 356 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: look out, what do I see a giant mural of 357 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb? So yeah, I think you're seeing signs and 358 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: this isn't going to affect his kind of ability to 359 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: get back to who he was. 360 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: So that's the good news there. 361 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: It's going to kind of put him on a little 362 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: bit of a pause, but he's going to be ready 363 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: for next year. I think next year is when we're 364 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: going to see that guy four straight thousand yard seasons, 365 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: you know, four straight Pro Bowls, the guy who averaged 366 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: five yards of carry every year he had been in 367 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: the NFL. So it is such a bummer because he 368 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: works so hard and that's why he was still playing 369 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 2: even though the season was out. He worked so hard 370 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: to play football again. That's what he loves to do. 371 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: That's what he does. He didn't rehab for the to 372 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: not play and now the. 373 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: Enginey can force him. Questioning Monday, yeah, yeah, I didn't 374 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: understand that this is not me taking shots in any 375 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: particular reporter. But Kevin was asked Monday morning, had you 376 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: had conversations before this injury about shutting him down? And 377 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Stefanski answered with, well, can I ask why? Like why 378 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: would you ask that? Yeah, and like, no, he didn't 379 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: fight this hard to your point to get shut down. 380 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: It both can be true. He doesn't look like he 381 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: did a few years ago, and he's still productive and valuable. 382 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you shut him down. Now. You could 383 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: argue I want to see more Pierre Strong, I want 384 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: to see more Jerome Ford. That's a different conversation. But 385 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: shut him down. I just didn't get ten whatsoever. And 386 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: then a quick thought here in the Bengals, the Bengals 387 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: you want to talk about sloppy. It's not just what 388 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: we saw with the Browns this past Sunday. Let me 389 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: pull up the note here on the Bengals win over 390 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: the man as eating will Levis Tennessee Titans. It was 391 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: the first game since at least nineteen fifty, So when 392 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: you hear that phrase, it means the NFL Research Department 393 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have the statistical data to actually with confidence look 394 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: back beyond nineteen fifty incomplete box scores, newspaper clippings, whatever. 395 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: But it was the first game since at least nineteen 396 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: fifty Cold War. We're talking to have ten plus combined 397 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: turnovers and twenty five plus combined penalties. So that's what 398 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: you're walking into in Cincinnati. So Merry Christmas. 399 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a sloppy one. Joe Burrow was shown 400 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: visibly upset on the sidelines during the game and talked 401 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: about it afterwards that it was just not good enough. 402 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: You know. He himself accounted for three turnovers, two interceptions, 403 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: and lost a fumble. They had the penalties, but they're 404 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: still an explosive team. This is a team that you're 405 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: gonna have to score with to beat them. I mean, 406 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: they that's what happens. That's when they lose. They still 407 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: score thirty, and they lose with Joe Burrow, with Jamar Chase, 408 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: with t Higgins, with Chase Brown, who's playing so well 409 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: for them at running back they are, and Joe Burrow 410 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: playing i think at an MVP level, and he's not 411 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: going to get it. Most likely because of what their 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: record is. But he's playing at an MVP level. They're 413 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna put points on the board. It's gonna be the 414 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: Onses beyond the Browns to match them in a shootout. 415 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Say this about Joe Burrow. I know we will 416 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: say it all week. He is having the best bad 417 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: team quarterback season ever ever. They are a bad team 418 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: right now with a great quarterback. And honestly, without watching 419 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: the Titans game because we were doing our game out, 420 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: you have to watch that one, full disclosure. But the 421 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: great quarterback overcame all those mistakes. Yep. If you have 422 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: all those mistakes and you don't have the great quarterback year, 423 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to win. And obviously that's the situation 424 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: the Browns have right now. I appreciate you, man. I 425 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: know you had CBD this morning and a million other 426 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: radio hits here as well. The college football breakdown on 427 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Monday's episode Fantastic Let's Go Baby. It wasn't even a 428 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: college football in the conversation. It was just just the 429 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: outpouring of college football knowledge, which I know you're excited. 430 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm really last weekend around the college football games, this weekend, 431 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, the buck guys and everything on Saturday evening, 432 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: maybe we'll watch that from Cincinnati. 433 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, you know, with the fact that we're not 434 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: in the playoffs and right now, you know we're looking 435 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: at a top ten pick, we're going to have to 436 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: be watching a lot of tape of college football to 437 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: get ready for whoever the new Cleveland Browns are going 438 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: to be down the road. So it's a great time 439 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: to immerse yourself. 440 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: As it stands now quite unofficial to Browns hold the 441 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: seventh overall pick in the twenty twenty five National Football 442 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: League Annual Selection Meeting. Stay tuned. Details to follow. All right, 443 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: my friend, you're the greatest. Oh yeah, thank you, Nathan Zigura, everybody. 444 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: It is now to quote a head coach at UNC 445 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: on to Cincinnati one o'clock has mentioned earlier on CBS 446 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: coming up for Week sixteen. Amazingly Week six teen, you 447 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: want to do a fun thought experiment. Go back to 448 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: the first Battle of Ohio this year. If Jamis had 449 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: been the number two that day instead of the number three, 450 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: remember how well he was firing the football on the 451 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: fourth or touchdown to David Njoku. Would the Browns have 452 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: won that game? I don't know, don't matter at this 453 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: point necessarily, but I think it's gonna be dtr If 454 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: it isn't, it's gonna be Jameis and it is going 455 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: to be fun. Also, do a thought experiment, what is 456 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: Skyline Chile? And why would you ever eat it? 457 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: Like? 458 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: At all seriousness like anyway, Happy holidays friends, Thank you 459 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: again for watching and listening to the Bark Tank presented 460 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: by Sugardale. I know it's the holidays, as mentioned, and 461 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of time you're getting 462 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: pulled or not a lot of time getting pulled in 463 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of different directions. So I truly appreciate when 464 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: you take time for this show every week until we 465 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: talk again after a Browns victory in Cincinnati. So long, everybody,