1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast PODCA. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the corn ten seconds 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: of matings. It's gonna just go throw up to the basket, 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: under the basket. It's the croup for the wind up miracle. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: I chuck the water, hit that one from the parking lot. 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast running by 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: bet MGM. The Three Men Weave are back for a 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: special edition BBOC episode, the Conference Tournament Preview Show. I 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: gonna talk about a handful of leaks today kicking off Wednesday, 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: and a couple on Thursday, as well as the meetingless 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: regular season comes to a halt and we dive into 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: the deurodie season that is conference tournament season, especially for 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: many of these made low major leagues one big leagues. 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: Every game means the world. So we're gonna hop into 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: a ton of betting ales. We'll talk format, schedule, bracket 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: betting angles for opening round spots at least we know 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: the matchups. And then I think, most importantly, where the 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: value is in the futures market and is that the 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: best place to place your value or is it better 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: off for you to put money lines on each team 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: that you like and roll them forward. All that and 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: more ahead, Kai Jim, Let's get right into the action here, 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 3: Big South bo Jangles Coliseum, Everyone's favorite venue, the newly 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: minted host of the Big South Conference tournament. The story 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: here is unc Asheville as the clear cut favorite they 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: really waltzed for during our season, four game lead on 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: the second third place finishers, long Wind Radford. There, Kyle, 28 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: we have odds scattered across a boarder on a multitude 29 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: of places. Market looks like it has. Unc Asheville has 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: a three to one favorite to win this Radford at 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: five to one. But how about Longwood at two and 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: a half to one despite being the slightly lower seed 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: at two twelve and six versus Ashville sixteen to two. 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: In the conference. 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: We'll talk about some of the lower seeded dogs here, 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: but any value here on these favorites in the Big South. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you look to bet Longwinter Ashville if 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: you absolutely have to. In the Big South. I think 39 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: they kind of proved to be the class of the league. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 4: I wouldn't bet on Radford the third shortest odds because 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: of their whole coaching situation. Nichols, their coach, recently got 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 4: a Dui. It's uncertain if he's going to be back 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: on the sidelines. A team I'm looking at as far 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: as long shots go is usc Upstate sixteen to one 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 4: in the market. They've beaten every single team seated above them. 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: They've beaten Nashville, they beat Longwood, they beat Radford, they 47 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: beat Gardner Webb, a team they're playing in the opening round. 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: If you're looking for long shot, that's the direction I 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: would go. But ultimately I think it's gonna come down 50 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: to Ashville or Longwood. Neutral floor certainly helps those gem 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: for long shots. 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, kay, I just want to follow up on the 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Radford point. They lost five of seven down the stretch, 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: and part of that was before Nichols got suspended. But 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: I think the snowball just kept going without him, So 56 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: it is. I don't want to eliminate them, but like 57 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: when I'm looking at future odds, I'm basically kind of 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: taking them out and saying, all right, if I assume 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: the three seats not gonna win, where can I find 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: value there? That maybe be a part of why Longwood 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: has a little bit of value, sorry, why they're favored 62 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: over Asheville. I'm not going to bet Longwood, But why 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: they have got that favorite standing. The interesting part with 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: the Upstate point you make, Kai, is that they're already 65 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: in the quarterfinals. It's not a team that you know, 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: at sixteen to one, they don't have to win four games. 67 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: They've just got to beat, like you said, three teams 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: that they've beaten before. Gardner Webb like to go to 69 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: Asheville after that, or play Ashville at bo Jangles and Charlotte, 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: and then who do you meet in the title? Hard 71 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: to say. I wanted to like Gardner Webb here because 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: I just that's a team I've kind of been in 73 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: on all season. But at plus five point fifty, having 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: to go through the one seed on that side of 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: the bracket, I don't love the number. There isn't anything, Matt, 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: that I'm actually going to bet from a future's perspective, 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: from the menu we're kind of looking at here. 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: Just to ad re quick, Matt, it's funny that Gardner 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: Web is five to one or plus five point fifty 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: and Upstate is six is sixteen hundred, sixteen to one. 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: Upstate just beat Gardner Web Upstate seven to one or 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: six and one last seven games. I think that the 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: pricing is a little bit mismatched. 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that, although in that particular matchup, 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: I like betting Gardner Webb because of that kind of 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: immediate revenge angle. But still, yeah, like a macro of 87 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: you're betting a future of my macro pricing, I'm with you. 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of a mispriced. 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Gee, we just lost four straight in the year. Like, 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: it's not like that's a team trending up. Where's like 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: I said, Upstate six of the last seven they one. 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: That's why I kind of like just lay in the 93 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: favorite here at three to one with Ashville last year 94 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: they lost sorry the one seed, excuse me, not the favorite, 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: but who I think should be the favorite because of 96 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: the draw. They lost first round last season to Charleston 97 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: Southern Drew Pember. I can assure you remembers that fondly 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: and lo and behold. They could face Chuck South as 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: we called them, in a rematch if they get by 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: high Point, who is also dangerous under the fighting tubby 101 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: Smith Junior as I call him, who have been conted 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: vaster gg Smith. 103 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: But man, they've just been so bad. 104 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: I think Ashfall gets to the championship game and who 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: they see on the bottom is anyone's guess of not 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: too all. 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: These semis and finals are early early tips. 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: I tend to think that favors the dogs, So I 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: think you see some potentially kind of weird results, uglier games, 110 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: especially at the neutral site, weird placed, unfamiliar location at 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: Bojangles Coliseum. Any other final thoughts here on Big South 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: first round matchup you guys are looking at, maybe looking 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: to back favorite dog. 114 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: J Angles isn't as big as I wanted. It's not 115 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: like a cavernous fifteen thousands, which would definitely get me 116 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: leaning towards unders. There's been some teams that I've really 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: perceived as unders, and you get an opening matchup with 118 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Campbell and Presbyterian, two teams that grind in the half court. 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: And I think I've been yelled at for betting Campbell 120 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: under Zone and our other best bet show because they've 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: had a few shootouts recently. But I do think that 122 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: one is going to be slow and ugly in the 123 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: first round opening around. That's on Wednesday, March first. As 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: you are listening to. 125 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: This, yeah, I think present's here and have as kai. 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: So I'll just add one more note after you finished 127 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: you appointment, because you're gonna respond to Jim. 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a great point too, Kai, So let 129 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: me have it here. The blue host Jim Presbo sitting 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: at the ten spot. I can't believe how bad they've been. 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: I do think they're kind of an interesting super long 132 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: Hill Mary shots. Maybe win a game, not too but 133 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: maybe too. 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 2: We lost seventeen in a row. 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: Like the roster is not all that different from last 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: year when they were far more competitive. 137 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: Not way Moore, but that. 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: Just better, right, Like there's guys in that team where 139 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: you could see maybe them having a kind of an 140 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: out of nowher resurgency. I thought a team would be 141 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: more to the middle of the pack, middle to bottom preseason. 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: They really just bought them out completely in a lot 143 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: scoring game. Any thinking that, Yeah, go ahead. 144 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: Rayshawn Harrison's been like the third best player in the whack. 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: He's gone from that team that was actually competent last year, 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and then Winston Hill has been hurt. Like there are 147 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: signs of life this year if they showed any or 148 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: while Hill was healthy, I think, and he hasn't played 149 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: in any of the seventeenth straight that they've lost. It's 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: I think the team's just kind of. 151 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Bad, rolled over the white flag. Yeah, don't. 152 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: Guy Ruddish has been so bad. I feel like he 153 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: was always one of their top three. Last year kind 154 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: of folded. You're right without those other big two? All right, 155 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: fair points? Fine, fine, I can. 156 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: See jumping in down. Yeah, Kyle got I'm just saying this. 157 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: This applies to every brackt we talk about. If you're 158 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: going to bet a future here, don't bet the teams 159 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: that have the longer path to the championship. So in 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: this league, it's high point Chuck, South, Campbell, and Presbyterian 161 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: have to play an extra game. 162 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: Very rare. 163 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: Do we see teams like that win conference tournaments. We'll 164 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: talk about that later with Missouri Valley. Just be wary 165 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: of that. If you're gonna take a long shot, take 166 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: a long shot like Upstate that already. 167 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: Like Jim said, is in the quarterfinals. 168 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: Yep, heart agree. Yeah. 169 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: I think people sometimes bet these not even looking at 170 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: the paths. So that obviously is very noteworthy. 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Let's pivot to the any Sea. 172 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: The the worst conference in college basketball is that where 173 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: we're at if we want to call the Independence a conference, but. 174 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: This one or the one we're talking about the one. 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about next. 176 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well the neec IT is the worst 177 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: league in America, But for my money, eight teams are 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: in this conference tournament here Merrimack despite a really dreadful 179 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: non conference. I guess every team in this league had 180 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: a bad non conference because it's just so bad they 181 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: want to win in the dang thing again. Joe Gallo 182 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: two titles in his early tenure, moving up from D 183 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: three to sorry, D two to D one. They're at 184 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: Merrimack College. They're playing lu first round. Merrimack is basically 185 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: even money to win this thing, depending on where you 186 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: look in the market. The number two Sea p really 187 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: Dickinson opposite bracket. They are two point five to three 188 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: to one, depending on where you look in the market. 189 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: They're playing Saint Francis Brooklyn first round. And then there's 190 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: a you know, kind of a mixed bag of who 191 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: knows what you're going to get with the rest of 192 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: this field. Kai, do you have any profound takes in 193 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: what seems like the most who the heck knows bracket 194 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: of any of them. 195 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: I think that's why you look for a longer shot in. 196 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: This league, because it is such a parody ridden league. 197 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: Every team is pretty much the same except for lu 198 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: Merrimack being a heavy, heavy favorite just doesn't sit right 199 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: with me. I understand they played well in conference, but 200 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: the best team in Keim Palm is Wagner as the 201 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: five seed team, and they are as high as twelve 202 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: to one out in the market. You can find them 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: at twelve to one. That is a lot of value 204 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: for a team that's beaten Merrimack at Merrimack. And while 205 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: this conference is at the higher seeds home place. We've 206 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 4: said it before, the ANC home court, it's not much. 207 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean a whole lot. So I think there's 208 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: value here on longer shots. Personally, for me, Jim Fairley 209 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: Dickinson is where I'm going to look. I think they 210 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: can be the best team in this league, best offensive 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: team for sure, and I've seen them higher than three 212 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: to one out in the market, so that's probably where 213 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: I'm leaning. 214 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: A longer shot would be Wagner. 215 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wagner's the right bet in terms of 216 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: value because they're the same round as everybody else are 217 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: in the quarterfinals. If they win, they will likely have 218 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: to go to Merrimack, but they've already won there, so 219 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: there's a chance that team is potentially worthy of making 220 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: a run. FDU has the best guards in the league, 221 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: for sure, and that's if people gravitate towards that. In 222 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: the postseason, you could look at them. I'm going to 223 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: be the vanilla boy here and pick Merrimack. I just 224 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: think they're playing way better down the stretch. They've got 225 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: two freshmen on the league's all freshman team that I 226 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: think have evolved into better versions of themselves late. That's 227 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Durkhak and Javon Bennett their backcourt. And then since 228 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Minor has been truly comfortable in the paint their best player, 229 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: they've been thoroughly dominant. They closed the year winning eight 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: in a row. Pretty much. None of them close like 231 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: Margins are twenty one, sixteen, twelve, eight, seven, thirteen, and 232 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: then they're a little bit closer. But I do think 233 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: that Merrimack has actually proven to be the best team 234 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: despite not being rated as highly in Ken Palm as 235 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: Wagner because the opening stretch of the non con they 236 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: were getting slaughtered by teams without Minor. So I think 237 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: it's actually decently priced if you want to take a 238 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: swing it would be Wagner. 239 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: Plus they are basically even if Wagner in Kim Pump, 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 4: it's three fifteen and three sixteen. 241 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: There you go. 242 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Merrimack would be yeah, probably exactly at three point 243 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: two half point favorite at home if they face off 244 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: in the second round, which they would if they both won. 245 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, Wagner's already won there, They've already won at Fairley. 246 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: Dickinson the number two seen in the bottle. 247 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm with Kai. 248 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: I think Wagner's the right play at eight to one, 249 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: even though I jam that Merrimack is the best team 250 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: right now the way they're playing. 251 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So since the start of February per Bart Tour 252 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: back Merrimack one hundred and seventy third nationally, like actually 253 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: kind of decent second best team Stonehill not even playing 254 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: in the event because it's their first year transitioning. And 255 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: then Wagner's three hundred and sixth nationally since start of February, 256 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: so like a very clear divide on who the best 257 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: team has been. And again I think it's because of 258 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: the young guys have started to develop. But I wouldn't 259 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: fault anybody for taking that Wagner price instead of Merrimack's 260 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: basically even money. 261 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: Any intrigue in the any specific first round matchups. Never 262 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: really talked about it. Saint Francis the Red Flash Kai 263 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: for the other Blue Devils of Central Connecticut or fdu 264 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: Verus Saint Francis Brooklyn, I kind of like both dogs 265 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: actually there on the road. 266 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: No fairly, Dickinson. I think it's going to roll Brooklyn over. 267 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: I really think they're going to make a run in 268 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 4: this tournament. I have not been able to figure out 269 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: Central Connecticut for the life of me. Saint Francis is 270 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: a weird team too, the Pennsylvania one, because they've had 271 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: so many guys in out of lineup this season. A 272 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: hard team to trust. However, they probably have the best 273 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: home court advantage of any any CED team if you're 274 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: going to go for that angle and they are playing 275 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: at home in the first round. 276 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, best home court advantage. And I think best player 277 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Josh Cohen six', ten total dominant. Big he's had a 278 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: couple of relatively big games against a Small Central connecticut front. 279 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Court last time he played twenty two and. Seven it's 280 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: kind of his hism o. There maybe not a huge, 281 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: edge but definitely agree WITH kai That loretto in Western 282 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: pennsylvania is is the best home court in the league 283 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: with very little, travel. 284 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah and seconds, primary so kind of back To jim's point, 285 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: there and they basically secure home court throughout the entire 286 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: bracket if they advance all the way. Through that's all 287 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: we have FOR. ANYC i, mean final thoughts against sort 288 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: of a crapsheet type. League if But merrimack is playing 289 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 3: like a team that's a cut, above even though the 290 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: overall you, know analytic numbers don't necessarily bear that. 291 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: Out all, right let's go to the O vc this 292 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: one for a low. 293 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: Major it's odd to see low majors held exclusively at 294 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: h at a neutral site for every, game but that's 295 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: what we have here with the o V c at 296 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: The Ford, Center kai and beautiful Beautiful, Evansville. Indiana wild 297 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: bracket here very much like the w C, c which 298 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: we will get to in Our thursday. Section, again all 299 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: of these leagues we're talking about right, Now Big SOUTH 300 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: NEC ovc tipping off On, wednesday but THE ovc sitting 301 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: up their bracket like THE, wcc heavily stacking the deck 302 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: in favor of the higher, seeds WHICH i personally. LOVE 303 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: i think that's a you, know it pays proper homage 304 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: to the regular season. 305 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: Results leagu's been a. 306 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: Disaster but when you're talking about backing any team outside 307 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: of the top four, seeds it's a tall. 308 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Order Morehead Tennessee. 309 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: Tech of the top two, seeds they get auto buys 310 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 3: to The Semis Tennessee STATE Ut martin or the four 311 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: and three, seed. Respectively they'll start in the quarters and 312 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: they await the winner of the play in game first. 313 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Round that's five Seed semo versus lynnon what at the 314 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: top of the, bracket and then number six SEEDED siu 315 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: e versus number Seven Southern indiana at the. BOTTOM i 316 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: cannot BELIEVE siue fell to a sixth. Seed that's my 317 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: opening thought on this bracket and just the way this 318 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: thing shakes. Out, Kai BUT i don't know how you 319 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: back a team that's got to win, one, two, three 320 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: four games to march all the way to the title 321 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: in foro consecutive. Days, yeah the three seed in the 322 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: seventh seed in this bracket were separated by one game 323 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: in conference, place so it's. 324 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: Basically a big. 325 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: Jumble but, yeah you look at those first four, Teams 326 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: timo lenn WOULD Siuv Southern. Indiana they have to win 327 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: four games in four days to win the. Title Morehead 328 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: state And Tennessee tech have to win. Two, so in my, 329 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: opinion if you're looking for a future in this, league 330 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 4: you just focus On morehead And Tennessee. Tech those are 331 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: the two teams that have biased TO. Semis, morehead in my, 332 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: opinion is by far the best team in this. LEAGUE 333 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: i think they will end up winning. 334 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: It but there's value On. 335 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: Tennessee tech maybe at plus three fifty plus three sixty 336 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: because they can. Shoot they're the arguably the best shooting 337 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: team in this, conference and over a two game sample, 338 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 4: size a lot of variants can. Happen they can get 339 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: scorching hot and win both. Games if you want to 340 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: a little bit of a longer, Shot jim for, Me Tennessee. 341 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: Martin they probably have the most, potential most raw talent 342 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: on the, roster certainly in the. 343 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: Backcourt, yeah you could definitely make a case they have 344 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: the best backcourt in the. League Parker stewart started At 345 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: indiana for almost all of last. Year kJ simon has 346 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: been a very productive player in this league for several years, 347 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: now and Then Jordan sears is a transfer From Gardner. 348 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: Webb we just Talked Big, south and he's given them 349 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: a pretty steadying influence at point guard this year as. 350 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: Well so if you want to ride with the, backcourts 351 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: like we Said Fairley, dickinson THE NEC i think would 352 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: Be Ut martin. Here But Morehead states really elevated themselves 353 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: into a class of their own as. Well they've won 354 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: eleven of their last twelve Since february. First they're one 355 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: hundred and eighteenth at Bart torvic like they are nearly 356 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: a top one hundred, team that's how good they've. BEEN 357 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: i think there's a long feeling out. Process they changed 358 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: over basically everybody in the, lineup whole new cast of 359 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: characters and Took Preston spradland's credit the. Coach he Lost JOHN. 360 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: I broom To auburn and His the team has just 361 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: kept rolling in this, league so really really impressive. Stuff, Stylistically, 362 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Also moorehead the only team that slows the game. Down 363 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: every other team likes to. RUN i think that probably 364 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: helps in the postseason setting That morehead is the most 365 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: comfortable in a half court game when possessions play. Up 366 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: but they're priced very very heavily as the. Favorite SO 367 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: i don't think there's a ton of value On Morehead. 368 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: State, YEAH i don't, either ALTHOUGH i look at you, 369 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: know just Put merrimack And morehead next to each, other 370 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: kind of harken back to our. Nc'scussion you're getting a 371 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: better price With, morehead who only has to win one last. Game, 372 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: NOW i know that there's other factors. Here i'm just 373 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: kind of slicing it through that. Lens BUT i kind 374 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: of Like, morehead AND i think it's just more of 375 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: an indictment on the rest of the. League the only 376 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: TEAMS i like in this league are playing are in 377 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: that kind of playing, round right With siue And, seema 378 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: WHO i think is starting to improve after they've gotten 379 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: healthier later in the. Season it's unfortunate THAT i think 380 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: we're seeing the you, know two of the more intriguing 381 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: teams with the deck stacked against. 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: THEM i was just looking at the bracket history. 383 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: Here since twenty eighteen first year was held At Fort, 384 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: center it's basically been A Murray, State, Belmont, morehead you, 385 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 3: know musical. Chair so it's the first year like an 386 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: ACTUAL i, MEAN i, know more it's the, favorite but 387 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: they're not as good as they were With joan AND i, 388 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: broom and the field feels much more open for the 389 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 3: first time in a. While, still the way the brackets set, 390 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: UP i think makes this for a pretty clear slants 391 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: award the. FAVORITES i guess if you have to get, 392 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: Involved i'd maybe take morehead and maybe maybe a flyer On. 393 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: Siue BUT i don't have any data in front of 394 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: you that shows winning four games in four days as 395 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: being a likely. 396 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: Proposition, yeah that could perhaps be a situation where money 397 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: lines it might might work. Out the problem as THE 398 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: sau is second in the league In Ken, palm so 399 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: the odds are not going to be totally in your 400 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: favor on those money. Lines like their second they're gonna be, 401 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: favored probably by a couple points in the first. Game 402 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: they're definitely gonna be favored in their second round game 403 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: Against Tennessee, state so perhaps not as strong, there but 404 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: eleven to one when they have to win four and four, 405 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: DAYS i can't quite get on. 406 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Board. 407 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: Kai, yeah there's their first round, Matchup, matt they Play Southern. 408 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: Indiana you know that's located, located that's, Right so there's 409 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: there's gonna be scream And eagles fans. There it could 410 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 4: be it's not a home home, game but it's in their. 411 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: CITY i Think Southern indiana might win that first. Game, 412 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: YEAH syu really shot themselves in the. Foot we thought 413 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: they were going to be a little bit of a juggernaut. 414 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: After they Beat slew in the noncom but a pretty 415 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: non graceful fall, there all, right, PLEASE i like. 416 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: HIM i Like cimo in that first round they Beat 417 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: they beat by twenty three the first time they played, 418 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: them and the second time they lost on the road 419 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: in double, overtime crazy ninety two possession. GAME i think 420 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: you get a strong graffort At linda would have to 421 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: make a buzzer beater just to make this. 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Louis Saint 469 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 3: louis where The Arch madness is hosted on an annual. 470 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: Basis league's always good and despite losing some key pieces 471 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: this year With, American. 472 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah the league still. 473 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: Awesome and when you have two teams play as well 474 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: As drake And bradley are at the top of the, 475 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: bracket it seems like those here on a collision course 476 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: for the automatic. Bid drake sitting at plus one to fifty, 477 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: five so about one one and a half to, One 478 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: bradley at two to, one and then the next closest 479 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 3: Is Indiana state there at five and a half six to, 480 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: one or, sorry six and a half seven to, One 481 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: Southern illinois seven and a half eight to, One belmont 482 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: at eight and a half nine to, one and then there's. 483 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: A drop off from. 484 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 3: There jim going to you, first what jumps out are 485 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: you from a just broader future, perspective any of these 486 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 3: teams with good value in a good, Path, well. 487 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: You've Got drake as the two seed that's, favored not 488 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: the first time we've seen that in our little tournament reviews. 489 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: HERE i kind of think it's. Justified Though bradley has 490 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: been a total wagon at, home but away from home 491 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: they have not been the same. Team this is not 492 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: going to be played In. Peoria that's kind of an 493 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: issue for. THEM i think that could be somewhat of a. 494 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: PROBLEM i Think belmont's the team with the intriguing draw. 495 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: Here they're sitting at the four. Seed they've already Beaten bradley. 496 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: Twice this is, them so they've got that edge over 497 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: the one. Seed they Beat Indiana, STATE i believe ONCE 498 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: i can't find. It, yeah so, yeah the league being 499 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: bigger means there's not the double round. Robin but so, 500 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: yeah they've like kind of controlled their half of the 501 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: bracket and you can make the argument that, hey a 502 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: young team getting better at this stage of the season 503 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: With gillespie And. TYSON i Think belmont's at least intriguing 504 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: in terms of value given their draw HIGH i think 505 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: the best. 506 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: VALUE i think it's funny to See Indiana state as 507 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: shorter odds to. THEM i know their first Games, evansville 508 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: so it's basically whatever you're gonna win but, Yeah bellmont 509 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: Beat Indiana state this. YEAR i understand The Kim palm 510 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: Ranks Indiana state Outranks, belmont but, YEAH i. 511 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: Agree if they were. 512 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 4: In drake's side of the, BRACKET i wouldn't Take. Belmont 513 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: drake handled them easily in the two games they, played 514 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 4: and maybe that's also a reason to stay away From. 515 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: Belmont can they ultimately Beat? Drake who knows? Something illinois 516 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: split With drake during the, season and that's kind of. 517 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: A murderer's row of a side of the. Bracket in my. 518 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: Opinion you Have, Drake Murray, state who's not a, pushover 519 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: At Missouri state who's pretty, good AND siu all in 520 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: the same kind of. Pod it's kind of a murder's row. 521 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: There i'd probably look At bradley at two to, one 522 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: OR i look At belmont at eight to. 523 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: One, man this is, tough as every Arch madness. SAYS I, 524 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: YEAH i. DON'T i Like Indiana state the, most but 525 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: it's just such a. Bummer they fell to that that 526 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: number five, slots so they're gonna have to win four 527 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: games in four days. Here it's just a tough tall, 528 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: ask especially against the rugged valley. Competition they'll, Face i'm Taking. 529 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 3: Drake i'm just looking at the field, here looking At, 530 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: bradley who they have to play the first two rounds 531 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: and Who drake would have to maybe line up. WITH 532 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: i just like the path better For drake in my. 533 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: OPINION i Know valpo's playing better and could be dangerous as, 534 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: that you know that ten seat sleeper with the talent they, 535 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: Have BUT i don't Trust Mary state away from. HOME 536 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: i Think drake it's by the winner of that, game 537 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: AND i think they're better than whoever they see at the, 538 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: bottom which would Be Southern, Illinois Missouri state or U. 539 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: C let's be, honest it probably will BE U i. 540 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: See SO i just think This drake is it is 541 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: a team of, destiny a bunch of super duper seniors 542 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: that came, back ran it back a couple of years 543 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: in a. 544 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: Row haven't QUITE i haven't quite got that glory that they. 545 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: Deserve so who. Knows bradley has been a darling in 546 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: this tournament. BEFORE i think they've won it how MANY 547 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: i think two or three times in the last seven, 548 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: Years SO i think maybe that tournament success plays plays. 549 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: Well Brian ward obviously knows what he's doing with the 550 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: clipboard value, Futures, kai what do you Think. 551 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: Missouri state SWEPT u swept break this year they? 552 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: Did now that was. Weird maybe the Defensive yeah they, Are, 553 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: yeah it really. 554 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 4: Is BUT siu Swept Missouri. State there's a lot of 555 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 4: there's a lot of matchup. 556 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 2: Percisers, Right, YEAH i think we should mention along with 557 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: some of the future. Stuff The Missouri valley unders it 558 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: is a, huge Huge darling vet for a lot of 559 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: people dating back to two thousand and, five two thousand and. 560 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: Six so in the Bet labs, database unders in this 561 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: event one hundred and three and fifty seven sixty four 562 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: point four. Percent now that is heavily weighted towards like 563 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: the two thousand and five twelve stretches really strong from 564 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: about sixteen till. Now it's it's far. Less it's probably 565 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: about fifty three. Percent i'd have to refilter, this but 566 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: it does feel like the market is caught on a 567 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: little bit and there's not such an auto bet value 568 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: on just hammering the. Unders So i'd be a little 569 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: cautious that a lot of the profitability in those numbers 570 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: are from, old old. 571 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: Seasons, yeah that's a GREAT i think that's, uh last 572 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: Year denver's outpace. 573 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: Unders So i've actually looked at. 574 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 2: Them breakdown last year was six and two unders. WENT 575 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: i happened to that was actually kind of a resurgence 576 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: for them a little. 577 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: Bit, YEAH i would tread lately tracking or trying to 578 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: chase the uh those, trends because you're, Right, JIM i 579 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 3: think it's important to look at the last couple of, 580 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: years especially when the market is. Adjusted even odds makers 581 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: are digging in more this time of. Season they're not 582 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: just coffee Pasting Ken palm or Bart. Torvik they're making 583 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: their an, adjustments AND i think people who know what 584 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: they're doing are playing something technical trends pretty. Early so 585 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: now if you're waking up at ten am on A, thursday, like, 586 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: OH i Guess i'll bet the valley unders you. MAKE 587 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: i checked the number chance starts probably be bet down 588 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: already and to the point where. 589 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: It's not really worth the. Bet but now a very 590 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: still point you on the total. 591 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: Angle since since five oh, six there's what that's seventeen 592 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: tournaments because they actually did play the twenty twenty tournament 593 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: BEFORE covid, right only two have finished under five hundred 594 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: For unders only two of the, events but there's been 595 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: four of them that were exactly five. Hundred so pretty 596 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: much every year you're you, know you're fighting a decent. 597 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Proposition there has not been a single year where The 598 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: unders got. Shelled so if you really want to get 599 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: in on, IT i think if you get decent numbers, 600 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: early it's worth maybe looking. 601 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: At, YEAH i wonder just the fact that they have 602 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: this kind of front loaded in the tournament schedule season 603 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: that the you, know wear and tear of a daunting conference. 604 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 3: Schedule you kind of turn it over pretty, quickly especially 605 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: you're playing three games in three days or four and four, 606 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: days but trying to make a deep run that's gonna 607 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: wear on your, legs no. Doubt favorite future. Bet i'm 608 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: still trying to, decide how do you have your horse yet? 609 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: Picked or are you staying away? Here you don't see 610 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: any good? 611 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: Value, NO i said of Like belmont if IF i 612 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: had to, choose Or, Bradley, yeah one of those. Teams, 613 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah in, general futures for conference, tournaments they're kind of 614 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 4: a fool's goal type of. 615 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: BET i, think in my, opinion. 616 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: There's there's really high hole yet a really like one 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: book it's kind of, tough So i'd probably look to 618 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: just get into a pool with with some awesome people 619 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: Like stucky for, instance or just play money line. 620 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: Ruler, yeah, YEAH i Think bellmont's the decent. Value but 621 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: like if you're SAYING i have to pick a team to, 622 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: win LIKE i Think drake's going to, WIN i just 623 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: don't think there's value at plus one fifty five or. 624 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: Whatever, yep all neutral site conference tournaments does no favors 625 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: to the. Favorites let's head Out west for our final. 626 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: Tournament on today's preview Special West Coast, conference The zags 627 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 3: and The gaels are on a collision. Course love how 628 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: the odds makers have basically pinned these at minus one 629 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 3: oh five minus one, fifteen slight favorite towards slight edge 630 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 3: toward The. Gales but effectively the market has these two 631 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: at a coin. Flip how About Santa clara the third 632 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: highest favorite at fifty to. One Santa CLARA buyu fifty to. 633 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: One everyone else is one hundred to one or. Higher 634 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: so we can pretty much have this entire discussion hovered 635 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: around The gonzaga Versus Saint mary's in terms of the future, 636 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: value who you're looking to take, there but some potential 637 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: first round matchups that have some intrigue as. 638 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Well let's start with just the. 639 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: Macro future Market kaiales zags in a. Vacuum he taken 640 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: basically coin flip here with the. 641 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: Odds, yeah it's basically it's a regular, bet right minus 642 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: one oh five minus one. 643 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: Fifteen i've seen minus one tens on both. Sides i'm Taking. 644 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: Zaga there's there's one book that Has gonzaga minus one 645 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Thirty Saint mary's plus one, Fifteen so get that better. 646 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: Shop i'm Taking. Gonzaga and and this bracket is like 647 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: the ultimate fu to the lower. Seeds, Uh, Portland San, 648 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: Diego Pacific pepperdine have to win five games in five. 649 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 5: Days that's absolutely. Crazy and then it steps down from. 650 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: There it is five and six at least because they 651 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: have they Take sunday off five year one. 652 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 5: Caveat but five and six games still quite a. 653 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: Bit. 654 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: Uh, yeah the odds are stacked against them In Saint 655 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: mary's And gonzaga gets a chill Till. Monday when to 656 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: two in a, row and they've dominated the league all, 657 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: Year So i'm Taking. Gonzaga they also don't have to 658 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 4: play LM u AND lmu is the only team that's 659 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: beaten Both Saint mary's And, Gonzaga so give me The. 660 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: Zags, Yeah i'm With. KAI i Think gonzaga was his. 661 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: Tournament if you get and fine this minus one oh 662 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: five On, Gonzaga i'm into. That they were just they 663 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: closed with minus five and a half almost minus six 664 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: at home In. Spokane that tells you that if they 665 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: played on a neutral it's probably going to Be gonzaga 666 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: favored by you, know two or. So and if you're 667 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: getting minus two but you're really getting minus one oh 668 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: five in the future's, market that's pretty. Solid i'm not 669 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: super stressed about either team's draw in the semi. FINALS 670 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: byu has been a little bit spunky spicy against these two. 671 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: Teams they should have Beaten Saint mary's In, provo and 672 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: they Gave gonzaga two decent games as. Well Santa clair 673 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: has also been a little bit. Feisty But gonzaga's biggest 674 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: troubles were on the road except when they PLAYED. Lmu 675 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: and they're not gonna PLAY muh BECAUSE i don't think 676 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: lm you Beat Saint, mary's so circling that all Back 677 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: gonzaga minus one oh. Five the minus one TEN i 678 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: think has like legitimate value from a price, perspective LIKE 679 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: i think it'll be steeper than that in the title, 680 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: Game so The zags for, Me, MATTHEW. 681 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: I agree my one. 682 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: Concern So i'm generally in the camp Of i'm not 683 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: worried about the semi final. Draws But gonzaga is down 684 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: like fifteen To Santa. CLARA i believe At clara in 685 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: the first being between these, two they came. 686 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: Back in one. LATE i, mean The acts usually take 687 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: care of business when they need. 688 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: To the elem that's why THE lmu lost was so, 689 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: shocking just to see them against the wall on the 690 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: ropes and they actually couldn't close it And herb sendext 691 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: a great game, plan are, great you know. Schemers SO 692 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: i don't think it's an automatic four on conclusion that they, 693 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: advance but a fairly fairly likely and to the point 694 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: WHERE i think it's not even fully priced into the. 695 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: Odds if you can Get gonzagia closer like that minus 696 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: one ten whatever book you, mentioned and that has minus one, 697 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: THIRD i think it's a sharper shade of the, number 698 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: especially given THAT i think Its ai is just a 699 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: SLIGHTLY i don't, know higher power rated team Than Saint 700 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: mary's and THE lmu threat is probably greater Than Santa. 701 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Clara but, Anyway i'm just going. 702 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: To keep bringing up these Since february, first filters on 703 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: bart tarbet BECAUSE i think it gives a decent idea 704 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: of who's playing better at this stage of the. Year 705 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: so Since february, First Saint mary's twenty seventh per, Part gonzaga. 706 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: Third Like gonzaga is playing like that elite. Team, KAI 707 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: i think you've been maybe the most stringently loyal to 708 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: That gonzaga is elite, narrative and they're starting to really 709 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: show that of. 710 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: Late, Yeah i'm A zag's, Boy. 711 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: Matthew never a little, fun little. WRINKLE i will be 712 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 3: betting On Chicago, state who is not in this. Conference 713 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: they will be Playing gonzaga On, wednesday a game they 714 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: don't don't know Why gonzaga, schedule But kenzaga basically has 715 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: a little exhibition tune up here before they go on 716 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: THE wcc. Tournament Chicago state has not played Since february. 717 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: Nineteenth they've been off for three three, weeks looking at film, 718 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: tape trying to break down The gonzaga transition, attacks so 719 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: look to take The bobcats on their Final West coast 720 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: tour of the independent yet very successful against the spread 721 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: season for The, Bobcats. 722 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: They've been there for a couple of days to. 723 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Already they already got there and got. 724 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 4: Settled they're, there they're practicing on their home, there gonzagas floor. 725 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: Already we have to see. 726 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: It first round Matchups Jim, Portland San, Diego Pacific pepperdhin 727 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: the only two we actually know for certain with a 728 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: couple you know that next Round biu versus the winner 729 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: of The Portland San diego Matchup San francisco versus winner 730 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: Of Pacific. 731 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: Pepperdine i'm probably gonna bet The. 732 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 3: WAVES i feel Like Lorenzo romar is actually pretty good 733 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: in the, tournament just because he's so bad in the 734 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: regular season that he actually has a value in the 735 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 3: conference tournament with all the talent he. 736 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: Has AM i off my, Rocker. 737 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: No you're not. CRAZY i don't have a strong opinion 738 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: on that. ONE i will be Betting. PORTLAND i think 739 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: they Smashed San, diego who has been really, shorthanded horrific, 740 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: defensively and you could make the case that this talented 741 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: team finally shows up in the, postseason but the Two 742 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: pac twelve, Transfers Eric williams And Jade delaer have not been. 743 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: Playing they've been, hurt And PORTLAND i think is still 744 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: a little bit undervalue because of how they've played in 745 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: the stretch where they were. Injured so in the postseason 746 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: THAT i go back to the last Year portland had 747 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: a first round game where they Beat San diego by 748 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: eighteen and then they got crushed By Santa. CLARA i 749 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: think something similar happens this. Year i'll take The pilots 750 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: if it's anywhere like minus. Four it's two unkempy that 751 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: it's minus, four and actual, Betting i'll still Take. 752 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: Moreland yeah as, well they've lost four in Row. 753 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: MAN i wonder If portland just finally kind of hit 754 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: a wall in a way with the White. Flag funny 755 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: that they're actually better than last year's Teammate Ken, pomp 756 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: but they are perceived to be a lot worse this 757 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 3: year just because of the. RECORD i think it just 758 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: goes to show how the schedule was very fortuitous with 759 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: The pilots last. Year now they actually had to play 760 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: all the big boys this. Season as on top of 761 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 3: the injury. Thing jim, mentioned it really caught up to. 762 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: Them final bets for, me AS i, MENTIONED i Think 763 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: i'm going to target The. Zags if you can get 764 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: close to minus one ten or a coin flip kai 765 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: rehash what you're looking in THE wcc, here, Yep. 766 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 5: Zas would be my. 767 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 4: BET i, mean, shoot they're offering one thousand to one 768 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: On pacific And San. Diego if if you just want 769 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: to burn a dollar and bet a dollar to one 770 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 4: a thousand. 771 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 5: Bucks, sure but it's not gonna. Happen but, hey crazy 772 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: things have. 773 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: Happened elm you one hundred to one for a team 774 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: that's already beaten the same. Reason, Now i'm not doing it, Either, 775 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: jim it's. 776 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: WEIRD lmu has beaten. WELL i guess they got the four. 777 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: Seed i've heard it's B. Yu being the five is 778 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: the surprising. Part like a team we sort of perceive 779 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: as the third best team in the, league they've got 780 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: to win multiple. GAMES i could buy it a little WITH, 781 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: LMU i. DON'T i think what they did down the 782 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: stretch To Saint mary's is kind of. Repeatable they just 783 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: put them in ball screens and they've got a dynamic, 784 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: scorer And shelton tore them up in that. Game it 785 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: was really kind of surprising Because Saint mary's would not 786 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: help off with three point. Shooters so, YEAH i could 787 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: see a little bit of a sprinkle being worthwhile ON. 788 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: Lmu the game two of The gonzaga game just frightens. 789 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: Me if they end up being in the, Finals zags 790 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: being in my forty, three it's kind of, like, oh all, Right. 791 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: Nerman, yeah, Look i'm Betting gonzaga here by one ten or, 792 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: whatever AND i think that's the right. 793 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: Wager, Yeah i'll say, this this is maybe the most 794 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: interesting tournament in terms of, just you, know esthetically. Pleasing 795 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 3: every GAME i think has some entry for one reason or. 796 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: Another a lot of good, players, stars, coaches program just 797 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: the league is definitely continuing its uprise of relevance up 798 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: the national. Spectrum final, thoughts, gentlemen before we sign off, 799 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: HERE i think that concludes our. Coverage locks and winners 800 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: only were PROVIDED kai. Takeaways shop a rice, wisdom shop, 801 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: around prices prices. 802 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: Vary you can, create you, know a sort of an 803 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 4: artificial lower hold by shopping around and getting some good 804 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 4: numbers on these. Teams if you really into betting futures 805 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 4: and the conference, tournaments and THEN i would play as 806 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 4: many pools as. 807 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 5: Possible it's, fun it's. EXCITING i love. 808 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: It favorite, time one, thing one THING i like. Doing 809 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: if your book allows. It not every one of them, 810 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: does but sometimes if you really like a couple of, 811 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: favorites parleying them. TOGETHER i actually kind of like that 812 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: in futures more THAN i like it in individual, games 813 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think it really cuts into the juice for. 814 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: That so LIKE i have already Parlayed colgate And liberty 815 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: to win The patriot and the A, sun so have. 816 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: You you know you're looking at really Like merrimack And 817 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: drake or, something you want to put them. Together i'm 818 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 2: not recommending, that BUT i do think some of the 819 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 2: parlays can be fun with. 820 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 3: Futures, Yeah it's just kind of how we did in the, preseason. 821 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: Right you bet a couple of, horses you bet the favorite. 822 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: If you Like iona in the. 823 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Mac but then maybe you take a long shot on 824 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: a flyer that you think is good as sort of a. 825 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: HEDGE i think that approach is definitely has merrit here 826 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: in this same setting or in this tournament. Setting, well, 827 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: Gentlemen Happy. 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