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Speaker 1: This the one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Good Afternoon, Bills Mafia, happy to have you along with

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Speaker 2: us for a spectacular fall afternoon here in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 2: New York for this Week four matchup between the OH

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Speaker 2: and three New Orleans Saints and the three and oh

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. To tunnel screen to Shakir works his way

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Speaker 2: through a tackler, stays on his feet, breaks away from

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Speaker 2: another twenty ten to five Khalil Shakir slippery as ever,

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Speaker 2: and he's in for a forty three yard touchdown. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Cook gonna follow him and he is into the end

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Speaker 2: zone for a one yard touchdown run. The Cook is

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Speaker 2: in the kitchen. Here's the snap, orbit motion into reverse,

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Speaker 2: a lave going Philly special, and it's intercepted by Cold

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Speaker 2: Bishop at the two yard line and up the sideline.

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Speaker 2: He goes, what a play by Cold Bishop. The snap

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Speaker 2: takes the handoff just Cook Alan gonna run it, tucks

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Speaker 2: it and he reaches the goal line. The beast has

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Speaker 2: been released as he takes it in on a five

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Speaker 2: yard touchdown run. Four man rush Allan Gonna step up

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Speaker 2: in the pocket, trips and stumbles, but he's got the

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Speaker 2: first down, still on his feet, thirty five thirty and

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Speaker 2: he's down to the twenty eight yard line. Rumble, young man.

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Speaker 2: Rumble takes the snap, bakes the throat of the flat,

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Speaker 2: looks down the sideline. He's got Kincaid, who's gonna walk

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Speaker 2: it in for a twenty three yard touchdown. Fourth and two.

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Speaker 2: Takes the snap back to pass, dumps it off. It's

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Speaker 2: complete to Kamara spins out of a tackle, but he's

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Speaker 2: short half a yard shortest trick. Davius White makes the stop.

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Speaker 2: It's a turnover on downs for Buffalo's defense. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a thirty five yarder from the right hash here's

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Speaker 2: the snap, hold it down, kick on the way and

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Speaker 2: it is good. So with two poh nine left, the

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Speaker 2: Bills have hit the thirty point mark again. Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: kneels down on third and ten and the final thirty

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Speaker 2: four seconds will tick away. And that is your game.

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Speaker 2: Rewind presented by Connect Life and official sponsor the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Sign up to don't at connectlife dot org. The Bills

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Speaker 2: improved to four and zero on the season, and they

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Speaker 2: are now the only team in the AFC that is

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Speaker 2: unbeaten after four weeks of NFL football here in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, the only other unbeaten team in the league

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Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles at four and oh

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Speaker 2: as well. And I know there are gonna be some

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Speaker 2: detractors that weren't impressed enough with the performance yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: there are some things that need fixing. Let's not kid ourselves.

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Speaker 2: The Bills have to fix some stuff. But I think

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Speaker 2: you go from last week to this week, you went

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Speaker 2: from six undefeated teams in the league to two after

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Speaker 2: just four games. It paints the picture on how close

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Speaker 2: the margins are in the NFL, not only in terms

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Speaker 2: of play to play series to series opponent you face,

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Speaker 2: but from the best team in the league to the

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Speaker 2: perceived worst team in the league. The margins about yeah,

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Speaker 2: four inches apart.

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Speaker 3: It's narrow, it's not wide, it's at all. The Bills

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Speaker 3: just had too much for the Saints to handle yesterday.

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Speaker 3: The Bills made enough plays defensively. Certainly, the defense is

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Speaker 3: going to get a lot of conversation during this week about,

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Speaker 3: you know, giving up one hundred and eighty nine yards rushing.

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Speaker 3: They faced a quarterback who has yet to win a

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Speaker 3: start in the NFL. That was his tenth to start yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I thought, coming in, I liked Spencer Ratler. He's got

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Speaker 3: a live army, he's a good athlete. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that the Saints are using him in quite the same

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Speaker 3: way I would use him if it was me. But

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Speaker 3: the guy's making some throws and he's got some weapons

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Speaker 3: around him. So one hundred and eighty yard if you're

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Speaker 3: not gonna the Saints got to be looking at themselves like,

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Speaker 3: if we're rushing for one hundred and ninety yards and

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Speaker 3: our quarterback as a live arm and is a good athlete,

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Speaker 3: what's our problem? Right? And they'd a point, But I

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Speaker 3: think they've got to get Spencer Rattler to do a

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Speaker 3: little bit more than he's been doing. He was eighteen

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Speaker 3: six yards. The Bill's defense, yeah, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 3: conversation about it. They just weren't winning the battle up front.

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Speaker 3: They ran the ball too easily against this defense, and

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Speaker 3: the Bills still have their third down issues. But it

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Speaker 3: was a twelve point win. It has continued to be

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Speaker 3: a defense that makes plays when they need him. The

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Speaker 3: and the other by Tredevious White tackling those guys short

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Speaker 3: forward as to what happens. Lost a ton of stuff

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Speaker 3: to talk about, yes, and we're going to get into

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Speaker 3: like the roster decisions. Codrington was down yesterday. What that

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Speaker 3: meant Brandon Bean was at I mean, Sean McDermott was

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Speaker 3: asked about that and he just said, listen, it was

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Speaker 3: we wanted to see how our roster was made up

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Speaker 3: with different guys up and down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for a giving game week.

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Speaker 3: That's that's something that bears watching. I think it's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Buffalo won their fourteenth straight home game. That's

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Speaker 2: one off the franchise record of fifteen set by Steve's

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety ninety one team. Since the start of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, the Bills are thirteen and zero with a

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Speaker 2: plus one eighty two point differential including playoffs. That's the

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Speaker 2: best home point differential at home in the league over

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Speaker 2: that span. Bills won the game, as we know, but

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Speaker 2: for the first time in twenty six games, Buffalo lost

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Speaker 2: the turnover battle. Josh Allen's interception was the only turnover

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Speaker 2: in the game. Joey Bosa forced to fumble late, but

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Speaker 3: That's not true. Cole bish is easy, ohy, Paul Bishops,

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Speaker 2: They did not lose the turnover battle. They just didn't

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Speaker 2: win it. That's what I meant, right, They didn't lose

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Speaker 2: the turnover battle. Buffalo went five hundred and ninety one

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Speaker 2: plays on offense without a turnover. It was the longest

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Speaker 3: Why they're hard to beat. The Saints did some stuff

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Speaker 3: starting to listen, we're gonna win a game here, that's it.

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Speaker 3: And the Saints kind of had that mentality. They sacked

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Speaker 3: but that's not that's not the only problem there was,

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Speaker 3: That's one of the strengths of their team, no question.

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Speaker 3: But the Bills are Josh's heart to sack, not yesterday

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Speaker 3: They came right when Josh was in the pocket. It's

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Speaker 3: not like he ran out of bounds or was scrambling

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Speaker 3: So the Saints brought something to the table and it

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Speaker 3: was a pretty fun game if you're you know, okay

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Speaker 3: with a twelve point win and your don't team scoring

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Speaker 2: James Cook had his third straight game with one hundred

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Speaker 2: plus rushing yards, first time in his career that he's

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Speaker 2: done that. First Bill's player with three straight games with

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Speaker 2: It's been a.

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Speaker 3: Minute, He's on pace for seventeen hundred yards rush.

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Speaker 2: Yep, this one surprised me. Steve, you're ready for this.

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Speaker 2: Cook is one of three players in Bill's history oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: with three hundred plus rushing yards and five plus rushing

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in the first four games of the season. Only

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Speaker 2: Thurman and OJ have done that before. Therman only did

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five. Cook is also the only running back

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Speaker 2: I thought five yards of car.

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Speaker 3: I thought yesterday might have been his most impressive performance

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Speaker 2: He was really close to breaking a couple.

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Speaker 3: Agains, which is which is you know where he sometimes

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Speaker 3: a belonging. He didn't do that yest day. He earned

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Speaker 3: But there was a lot of times when he was

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Speaker 3: it looked like he was side stepping somebody in two

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Speaker 3: had his most important running game of the season yesterday

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Speaker 3: because of how how badly they needed him. First of all,

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Speaker 3: they were they went dormant offensively. In the second quarter,

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Speaker 3: they had like twelve yards. It was something you rarely

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Speaker 3: Coming out of halftime. They had a different plan and

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Speaker 3: it was and kudos of the coaching staff for getting

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Speaker 2: And if you think about the first four games this season,

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Speaker 2: Cook has been a horse for this team. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: he has been a thoroughbred. And you know, Josh can

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Speaker 2: turn it on whenever you need him to. But when

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Speaker 2: this offense has hit some doldrums from time to time.

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Speaker 2: Through the first four weeks, they have leaned on Cook

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Speaker 3: Than he carried the ball twenty two times. Yesterday, Josh

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Speaker 3: had seven carries. As you might imagine, you know, with

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Speaker 3: the carries. And that's something that is different than what

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Speaker 2: And I know I mentioned this earlier in the season.

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Speaker 2: I saw him do it once. Yesterday. They they're in

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Speaker 2: goal to go situation. They were going to bring somebody

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Speaker 2: in and give him the wave off. James is waving

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Speaker 2: them off. I'm not coming out, bro, I'm out here. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Cook also has the most rushing touchdowns in the league

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Speaker 2: since the start of the twenty twenty fourth season. He

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Speaker 2: now is twenty one. He leads the league this year

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Speaker 2: with five. Josh Allen passed Hall of Famer O. J.

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Speaker 2: Simpson for third on the Bills all time list for

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Speaker 2: touchdowns from scrimmage thanks to his five yard rushing touchdown

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Speaker 2: in the third quarter yesterday. He now has seventy's rushing

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Speaker 2: and receiving.

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Speaker 3: Sixty nine rushing and seventy total. He has a touchdown

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Speaker 3: reception back in Arizona in twenty twenty something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on a trick play, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But yesterday the five yard We spoke about this on

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Speaker 3: the postgame live show. Josh has consistently been abled at

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Speaker 3: It was a snooze fest to start within At the end,

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Speaker 3: back and forth, Yeah, pretty entertaining. I was surprised at

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Speaker 3: myself thinking that actually.

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Speaker 2: Bears won on a block of a potential game winning

436
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Speaker 2: field goal. Is Chicago outlasted Las Vegas twenty five twenty four?

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Speaker 2: Don't know if you saw the postgame interview Steve I

438
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Speaker 2: did not, so Josh Blackwell, who blocked the potential game

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Speaker 2: winning field goal by Carlson for the Raiders. They're interviewing Blackwell.

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Speaker 2: Bears Radio Network is interviewing Blackwell, and he said, our

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Speaker 2: special teams coach saw in the film that the snapper.

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Speaker 3: The Bears blocked it on the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, did I say that Bears blocked it

444
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Speaker 2: on the Raiders? The so Josh Blackwell, the Bears who

445
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Speaker 2: blocked the kick, said their special teams coordinator told him

446
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Speaker 2: during the week that the long snapper for the Raiders

447
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Speaker 2: moves the ball like a half inch or an inch

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Speaker 2: before he actually snaps it. He has a little tick

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Speaker 2: where he moves the ball like yeah, he tilts it

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Speaker 2: and then snaps it. So they timed up their rushes

451
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Speaker 2: and were really close on a couple of field goals

452
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Speaker 2: earlier in the game, and then finally get the one

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Speaker 2: that turns out to be the most important. They prevent

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Speaker 2: a potential game winning field goal and win twenty five

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Speaker 2: twenty four in Las Vegas. Black kicks have been a

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Speaker 2: major narrative Steve in the first month of the season.

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Speaker 3: You're not supposed to tell him that the guy's got

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Speaker 3: a tick.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not playing the Raiders again.

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Speaker 3: They don't care, They don't care now, But you're not

461
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Speaker 3: supposed to say that because that it's a thing you

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Speaker 3: always I mean, I spent I spent a lot of

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Speaker 3: hours doing exactly that, studying film, watching the guy I

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Speaker 3: got a block pun in the Super Bowl because we

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Speaker 3: knew how Dale dale. He had a room team that

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Speaker 3: we took advantage of and head down. He'd look around,

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Speaker 3: get it, head down and head and once his head

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Speaker 3: went down the last time, he wasn't coming back up

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Speaker 3: to see us. So after he went put his head

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Speaker 3: down to snap the ball, we count and Mark Pike

471
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Speaker 3: comes around on my side, messes up their count, and

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Speaker 3: I come, I come through with a little bit of

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Speaker 3: space and block upon the Super Bowl. You spend a

474
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Speaker 3: lot of time doing that. And that little half inch

475
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Speaker 3: move that the Bears were talking about on the Raiders

476
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Speaker 3: long snapper, let's go.

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Speaker 2: It allows them to time up the rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's special. Teams is back, baby, Yeah go it,

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Speaker 3: let go.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, the Bills and the Eagles the only

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Speaker 2: undefeated teams left in the league. So let's check in

482
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Speaker 2: on the standings and find out who is raising the

483
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Speaker 2: roof presented by Stellar Roofing. When quality counts, choose Stellar.

484
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Speaker 2: So you know that the Bills are atop the AFC

485
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Speaker 2: at four and zero, Chargers right behind them, but they

486
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Speaker 2: dropped a game to the Giants yesterday. Indianapolis no longer undefeated.

487
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Speaker 2: They lose to the Rams, and Pittsburgh gets a win

488
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Speaker 2: in Dublin over the Vikings to improve to three and one.

489
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Speaker 2: Jacksonville now very quietly three and one, and then Cincy

490
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Speaker 2: and KC in those wildcard spots right now, Cincinnati two

491
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Speaker 2: and one. Casey evens their record at two and two

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Speaker 2: with the win over the Ravens in Arrowhead and New

493
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Speaker 2: England two and two. After a convincing win over the

494
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Speaker 2: super starry Carolina Panthers, they win thirty to nothing over

495
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Speaker 2: Atlanta and a division win the week before, and then

496
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Speaker 2: get absolutely waxed. Ye boat raced and Steve what you

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Speaker 2: talk about special teams? Yeah, watch out for Jones, punt

498
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Speaker 2: returner for the Patriots. He had an eighty seven yard

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Speaker 2: punt return five touchdown, and then another one that should

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Speaker 2: have gone he stumbles at the ten yard. He's a problem.

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Speaker 3: He's a good returner, and they're all good for different reasons.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they never put they never put guys back

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Speaker 3: there who can't get it done. You know, it's always

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00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: somebody who's got some extraordinary gift that you got to

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00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: worry about as a you know, schmuck like me chasing him.

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Speaker 3: They're all different, but yeah, this those guys that can

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Speaker 3: move side to side and have a burst and.

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Speaker 2: He's built loaded the ground mark.

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Speaker 3: You can't get him. You can't get him off their feet.

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Speaker 3: Like the Khalil Shakiri yesterday on that forty three yard

511
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Speaker 3: touchdown to open the opening drive. It's almost supernatural how

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Speaker 3: he keeps his balance after contact. And we've seen it

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Speaker 3: all the way through his career, his young career. That

514
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Speaker 3: guy is hard to knock off his feet. Returners are

515
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Speaker 3: like that too, you gotta that's why they put you know,

516
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Speaker 3: that's why Shakeure's back there. Yeah, I can catch it.

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Speaker 3: He's good. He's a solid returner and he can't knock

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Speaker 3: him off his feet. So just amazing how these guys are.

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00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: This guy Jones for the Patriots, we need to watch

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Speaker 3: out for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of homework this week to get ready

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Speaker 2: for that guy. We have to step aside here, but

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Speaker 2: we do want your biggest takeaways from yesterday's victory over

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Speaker 2: the Saints thirty one to nineteen, So hit us up

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Speaker 2: at eight oh three oh five point fifty one eight

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Speaker 2: eight five point fifty two, five point fifty Those are

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Speaker 2: the numbers to jump on board. We'll let you know

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Speaker 2: who the player of the game is in our next segment.

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Speaker 2: Here on a Buffalo victory Monday on one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Your player of the game is presents the snap, takes

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Speaker 2: the hand off to Cook Alan gonna run it, tucks it,

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Speaker 2: and he reaches the goal line. The beast has been

534
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Speaker 2: released as he takes it in on a five yard

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Speaker 2: touchdown run. Your player the game is presented by high

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Speaker 2: Mark Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark is the official

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Speaker 2: health plan of the Buffalo Bills, Because Life. Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: your player of the game sixteen to twenty two, passing

539
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: for two hundred and nine yards and two touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: did have his first interception of the season, but also

541
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Speaker 2: had seven carries for forty five yards, which included a

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Speaker 2: five yard touchdown run and as we mentioned, with one

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Speaker 2: rushing and one passing touchdown. Josh Allen tied Cam Newton

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Speaker 2: for most games with one passing and one rushing touchdown

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Speaker 2: in NFL history with forty five. Last I checked, Cam

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Speaker 2: Newton doesn't play anymore, so Josh will have that record

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Speaker 2: by himself in the not too distant future. So there

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: He continues to do stuff nobody else does or has

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Speaker 3: ever done, or.

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Speaker 2: As much or as much. Yeah, special dude, he's Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Talked to his mom and dad yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that's cool. It's just you know, it's

554
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: just salt of the earth people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're awesome, just awesome. They during the conversation they said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he just his dad said, I, you know, just because

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the culture and how much Josh is a

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Speaker 3: part of what Sean and Brandon have put together and

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Speaker 3: you know, with Terry all the way from the top

560
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Speaker 3: and how the building is these days, and he just said,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine him. He just fell into the perfect,

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Speaker 3: absolute perfect place worked well for where Josh is. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's I got to agree with him.

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Speaker 2: And I thought it was very telling too. Yesterday in

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Speaker 2: the postgame locker room. You know piece that you see

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Speaker 2: every week from our excellent video staff that puts that

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Speaker 2: stuff together so quickly and has it out, you know,

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Speaker 2: the same night of the game, and Sean's in there

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Speaker 2: and you could tell how much he appreciates Josh's will

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Speaker 2: to win. It's not something that you can put into

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Speaker 2: a player or athlete. It is something you either have

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Speaker 2: or do not have. Everybody wants to win, but the

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Speaker 2: the internal self motivation to drive yourself and in turn

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Speaker 2: your team to a victory, that is not taught. I

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Speaker 2: believe it's innate. You either have it or you do not.

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Speaker 2: There are varying degrees of it that get that guy will,

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Speaker 2: you know, stick his head in a fan to win

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Speaker 2: a football game.

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Speaker 3: Like there's so many an here's here's why. Sometimes you

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Speaker 3: see it and notice it and people give them credit

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Speaker 3: for it, and other times they may not. There are

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Speaker 3: so many moments in football games where we always think

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Speaker 3: every third down is this crucial third down. We always

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Speaker 3: think that this has got to be the one. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: that game was tooling along, and it was a it

586
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Speaker 3: was a a hard fought game, and the Bills weren't

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Speaker 3: putting these guys away by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 3: But you get down late and you get into a

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Speaker 3: third and five. I think it was a third and five,

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Speaker 3: and you could just It's a moment where Josh sees

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Speaker 3: it differently than all of us because he's in the moment.

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Speaker 3: He's in the he knows how the game has gone,

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Speaker 3: he sees the matchups, he understands what the defense is doing.

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Speaker 3: There's so much acquired knowledge throughout the first two and

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Speaker 3: a half hours of that football game. He drops back

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Speaker 3: and he says, all right, this is it. I trust me,

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Speaker 3: and he snaps off a twenty a twenty seven yard

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Speaker 3: run right up between the hash marks, running through I

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Speaker 3: told you he's learning through their defense like he's running

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Speaker 3: through a cornfield. And that's where it shows up for

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Speaker 3: people who are like Josh. They've been in that game

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Speaker 3: for three hours. They see the matchup, they see what

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Speaker 3: the defense has been doing to him. They see how

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Speaker 3: difficult it has been and how important this moment and

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Speaker 3: what a difference this moment could make. And Josh says,

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Speaker 3: let me, let me just do this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's when you get your head coach going, wow, that

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00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: guy's pretty good. Our guys good, you know, And he

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Speaker 3: appreciated him in the postgame locker room.

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Speaker 2: And it was appropriate. Let's go to the phones for

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Speaker 2: your biggest takeaways from yesterday's victory over the Saints, and

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Speaker 2: we lead off today with Ryan in Toronto. What's up Ryan?

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Speaker 8: That steam's happy with three Monday guys.

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 8: My biggest takeaway is not the open offense is fine,

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Speaker 8: no company is none whatsoever. My biggest takeaway is the defense.

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Speaker 8: We cannot be giving up this many points to these

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Speaker 8: windless teams. Period. There's not going to get us anywhere.

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Speaker 8: I understand there's injuries on the defense, fire, I understand

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Speaker 8: there's suspensions, but regardless, this this is not unacceptable. Secondly,

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Speaker 8: what's the just penalties with the Bills. There's too many

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Speaker 8: palties in the game.

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Speaker 3: I think we're yesterday, Yes, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 8: And that doesn't that was another team there would That

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Speaker 8: was Casey for example of Baltimore who they would take

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Speaker 8: full of, good advantage of that penalties. But obviously written

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Speaker 8: of Saints. And then on after what's up with Curtis Sana?

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Speaker 8: Is he back on the roster? Is he on the

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Speaker 8: ir what is he? What's going on with I know

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Speaker 8: he played yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played yesterday. He had been a healthy inactive

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Speaker 2: for the first three weeks and thanks for the call, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: He had been a healthy inactive for the first three weeks.

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Speaker 2: They had all six receivers up yesterday as Brandon Codrington

636
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Speaker 2: was the guy that sat down, and they had Curtis

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Speaker 2: Samuel on kick return yesterday with Ray Davis mostly for

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Speaker 2: most of the game. And they had Khalil Shakir handle

639
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Speaker 2: punt returns. Codrington's punt return averages down this year. He

640
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: was up around twelve last year, and I think it

641
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 2: was in the top five in the league because twelve

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00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: is a very good average on punt return that's excellent.

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Speaker 2: This year he's at like five point three. So performance

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00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: matters if you want to have a jersey on game day.

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Speaker 2: And I think they just wanted to try something different,

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Speaker 2: see if it would work any differently and with any

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Speaker 2: more success. And you know Shakir has done it before,

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Speaker 2: so it's not like they were putting an absolute neophyight

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Speaker 2: back there. Curtis Samuel, however, he hasn't returned kicks in

650
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Speaker 2: a while. I didn't look it up, but I know

651
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: it's been some time since he's return kicks. I'll have

652
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: to go back and check when I have a chance

653
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: here during the break. But I think they're trying to

654
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: see if there are some other areas where Curtis Samuel

655
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: might be able to help them.

656
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they tinkered with the roster yesterday at the skill

657
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: positions with Codrington and Samuel. Now Codrington and we talked

658
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: about this in the preseason. If you remember, Codrington is

659
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: a defensive back by trade, and obviously Curtis Samuel is

660
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: a wide receiver by trade. That changes the dynamics of

661
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: your roster. If you've got the specialist meaning kickoff in

662
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: punk return, kick return, punk return, if you've got those

663
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: squared away, it'll give you some slack at the corner

664
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: position and some depth at the wide receiver position. I

665
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 3: don't know what their thoughts are about how those fit together,

666
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: but they certainly tried it yesterday. It seems obvious at

667
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: this point that that's part of their plan and their

668
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: experimentation with what they want their roster to be and

669
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: do on game day and how good they are. Are

670
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: They good enough offensively with Curtis Samuel on there, you'd

671
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: think they'd be even better. But how much does it

672
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: take away from the kick returning spot and does it

673
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: leave us vulnerable at the corner spot? Dorian Strong I

674
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: think has been a pleasant surprise for them so I

675
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: think they feel good about him. They gave him a second,

676
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: they gave him a series yesterday to come in and

677
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: spell Tredevious White, So I think they feel good about him.

678
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: So maybe they felt comfortable in letting Codrington sit this

679
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: week and then see how that affected the offense on

680
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: the other side. All that is in the stew there,

681
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: and I think we'll continue to see some of that

682
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: going forward. On defense, I'm with you, Ryan, Certainly it

683
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like a championship caliber defense at this moment,

684
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: but it is pretty close to a championship caliber team.

685
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: So whatever the defense gives them, with their ability to

686
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: get sacks, with their ability to timely plays turnovers, of course,

687
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: it does seem to be a part and a piece

688
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: of a championship caliber club. But there are and there

689
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: is in there. I think all of us are hoping

690
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: and waiting to see if Hoyt and Ogan, Jobi, Max

691
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: Harrison ed a healthy Ed Oliver and Max Matt Mulano

692
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: getting on the field. If he can and get on

693
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: there and stay, all those guys on the defensive side

694
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: will give them another gear if it does well. Yeah,

695
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: the lid's coming off, right, I mean we're going to

696
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: be a much better defense. Our offense is going to

697
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: continue to shine. And then all of a sudden it's like, well,

698
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: you really got to jump through mental hoops to figure

699
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: out ways teams could possibly even beat you.

700
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: Five teams might be a way where teams we're not looking.

701
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: We're not there yet. But defensively, you're right, Yes, they

702
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: have a lot of things they can go to now

703
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: to try and get it, you know, keep teams from

704
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: rushing for one hundred and ninety yards on them. But

705
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: they're they've got to go to those now. They gotta

706
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: they gotta they gotta wait for the suspensions to lift.

707
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: They gotta wait for Ed Oliver to get healthy. Matt

708
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: Mlana's gonna be back here pretty soon, and Max Harriston

709
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: is on his way, all of those things. And it's true,

710
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: all those names I mentioned from Oguin, joeby Hoyt, Harriston, Milano,

711
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: ed Oliver, of course those are all guys that.

712
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Well, they're either major players or major contributor contributors at

713
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: least we are supposed to be.

714
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: So that would change the the temperature of the room. Yes,

715
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: but we still have to see it. Yep, we still

716
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: have to see it, and they're hanging They're doing more

717
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: than hanging on waiting for that to happen, right, I mean,

718
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: they're four and oh and they're scoring thirty points a game,

719
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: so they've they've given themselves a wide margin of error.

720
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: But I want to see that. I want to see that.

721
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of Bills fans would go

722
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: to Anthony in New York City. What's up, Anthony?

723
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 7: How you doing? Crazy?

724
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: Good?

725
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 7: Good?

726
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 8: Okay?

727
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 9: The way do you see being make a trade at

728
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 9: the deadline?

729
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 7: Maybe both to that defense?

730
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it right now. I think what he

731
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: wants to do is give this defensive unit time and

732
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: thanks for the call, Anthony. I think I think to

733
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: Steve's point, it's a good question, wait until the calvalry arrives,

734
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: because why are you going to acquire a player when

735
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: you've got two players you're going to technically acquire off

736
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: suspension in two weeks, who are to Steve's point, expected

737
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: to at the very least play an important role, if

738
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: not a starting role at some point in time. And

739
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, ahoy, chiefly for this, you've got your first

740
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: round pick coming back from ir Hopefully you know somewhere

741
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: in the next month he's on the field, and then

742
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: Milano and Oliver, who are two of your starters in

743
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: your front seven. I don't know that you need to

744
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: swing a trade right now. I think you you're probably

745
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: better off to wait and see. Now. I will say this,

746
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: if you find yourself in a lot jam at a

747
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: position because you're suddenly healthy defensive end, for example, maybe

748
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: you do consider a trade instead of just lopping somebody

749
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: off the roster, if you can find somebody interested in

750
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: giving you maybe a late round draft choice for a

751
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: player that suddenly is the odd man out in a

752
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: numbers game at defensive end, because you're gonna have too

753
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: many if they're all healthy by the time Hoyt comes back.

754
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: So that's a consideration. But short of that, no, you've

755
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: got to let this thing settle out and with all

756
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: the pieces you have coming back, whether it's off injury

757
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: or off suspension, you got to see what that looks like.

758
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: You don't just trade somebody away to try to make

759
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: yourself better when you have guys coming back to your

760
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: defense already.

761
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot in this. Yeah, if my litmus test

762
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: would be what if the Bills were one in three

763
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: instead of four to Oh they're one in three and

764
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: the defense is playing like this and they'd lost to

765
00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: Baltimore game whatever, and they'd struggled. Does that change you

766
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: want from this tea? Certainly depends on what you saw

767
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: in those games. But I'm I'm kind of with Brownie,

768
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: but i mean the phone's always there. Yeah, if if

769
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: somebody made them an offer that would the Bills felt

770
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: like Matt, we like this guy, and we really think

771
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: he would fit. Brownie's right. You're not gonna trade from

772
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: a position of weakness on your roster. You're gonna trade

773
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: out of strength. So if you've got a bunch, you know,

774
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: say for instance, the defensive end position, and you got

775
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: a bunch and there's not that much difference from the

776
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: top to the bottom, but you've got a lot of

777
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: those guys and you.

778
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Have depth because you're getting Hoyt back.

779
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're getting Hoyt back, and it's like, Okay, well,

780
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: maybe we landon Jackson Goes because he hasn't he can't

781
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: get a jersey for us. He will for those guys

782
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: over there, whoever that may be. Or you think we

783
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: trade Upaneze will save the cap space and there's not

784
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: that much of a top off because Landon Jackson can

785
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: step up. All of that stuff goes into the mix.

786
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: It'll be trading from a position where we're neck deep

787
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: in guys, rather than finding a piece like a Micah

788
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: Parsons and going out and throwing three. You know that

789
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

790
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: We got to take a break more of your phone

791
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: calls when we come back here on a Buffalo victory

792
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: Monday on one Bill's Live. Stay with us all right,

793
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: time for the numbers that matter, and they're brought to

794
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: you by the New York Lottery. The Bills have scored

795
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: thirty plus points in the team's first four games for

796
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: the third time in team history and the first time

797
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety two. You remember that year James Cook

798
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 2: had a rushing touchdown for the eighth consecutive game, marking

799
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: a new Bills franchise record. Got your lucky jersey on,

800
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: Then head to a New York Lottery retailer and play today.

801
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: Who knows today could be your lucky day? Gambling problem

802
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: called one eight seven seven eight Hope and why or

803
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: text hope and why. Let's jump right back on the

804
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: phone lines where we got people waiting at eight h

805
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty and to Tony in urt Chester.

806
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: What do you have for us?

807
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Tony?

808
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, you know I believe in the same defense

809
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 10: wins championships, and you know, I agree with what you're saying,

810
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 10: especially Hoyt. I think you look at his stats last

811
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 10: year a lot like Russeau's, So I think he's going

812
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 10: to be a step up from Epanessa, but not an impact,

813
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 10: you know. And I look at like Hendrickson, Cincinnati's got

814
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 10: to trade him. They have to. Season's going to tank.

815
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 10: They signed him to a one year deal. He's going

816
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 10: to be worthless to them at the end of the

817
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 10: year if they don't. You know, just a thought on

818
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 10: trade bait. You know, I think Samuel was out there

819
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 10: he set seven million dollars, So are we putting him

820
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 10: out there to show him a little bit? The other

821
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 10: one might be controversial, but you know Knox, you look

822
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 10: at what he's making this year, is it really fourteen

823
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 10: and a half million when we got we got to

824
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 10: sign Kincaid and hawks looks great.

825
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 11: Just some thoughts.

826
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying Tony and Steve, and

827
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. If the Bills go into

828
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs with their defense looking like this, they're not

829
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: going anywhere. They're not going to or they'll have to

830
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: score forty five and you're not doing that against playoff

831
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: caliber defense.

832
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, every game is its own animal, but you got

833
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: to know going into the playoffs, you're not going to

834
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: be playing the New Orleans Saints.

835
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: You can't have the thirty first ranked run defense and

836
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: expect to win playoff games. So they know it's got

837
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: to get better. And the point is there's time to

838
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: make it better. So I don't think anybody should be

839
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: in a panic right now. And a lot of the

840
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: things are fixable, but they've got to fix their tackling

841
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: because mistackles were a major problem yesterday. That has to

842
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: be better. Know if Sands or Bud's about it, and

843
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: the coaching staff's probably telling the players the same exact

844
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: thing today in corrections and meetings, and then beyond that,

845
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: they have other areas that need to be fixed. And

846
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: you're hoping that with some of the reinforcements coming back

847
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: either from injury for suspension, that it will look better,

848
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: but that's gonna have to take time to germinate as well.

849
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: Like you're not just gonna thrust all these guys back

850
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: in the lineup and everything's gonna be fixed. They're gonna

851
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 2: have to get used to playing with one another again.

852
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fight Mac, the fact that Michael

853
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Hoy and Larry Ogan Jobi are playing with new guys.

854
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: There are new additions to this team. Same with Max Harston,

855
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: who's also terribly inexperience.

856
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: You get into that now. I'll say this as well.

857
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: We're we're caught up in the moment here and we're

858
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: and it was a chamber of commerce day out there yesterday.

859
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: Then the entirety of Bill's Mafia was in full force yesterday.

860
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: It was a it was an amazing day yesterday, no

861
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: question about it. And we look at this team. We

862
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: see Josh doing the things and their offenses humming along.

863
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: They're scoring thirty points a game even when they're not clicking.

864
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: And let's take it. Let's raise our heads up a

865
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: minute and look at the surrounding landscape. The Chargers just

866
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: got handed their their heads handed to them yesterday. The

867
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: Colts went down yesterday. The Pittsburgh Steelers won yesterday day.

868
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is three to one. You've got other teams around

869
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: the country in the air, particularly in the conference, they

870
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: got their own problems that far outweigh the bills problems.

871
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: So while BROWNI and I know we've seen it. The

872
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: landscape is going to change from the end of here

873
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: we are on the end of September through the end

874
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: of January. The landscape is going to change greatly for

875
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: all these teams. But right now, nobody's doing it better

876
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: than the Bills in at least in the AFC, and

877
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: all the teams you can look at have had real

878
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: problems that they cannot overcome. So certainly this team is

879
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: going to look different in a month than it does now, better, worse, whatever,

880
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: It's going to look different, so is the rest of

881
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: the conference. But for right now, nobody's doing any better

882
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: than these guys. And while they have problems, they can

883
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: get a handle on and they have answers coming down

884
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: the pike. Other teams have nothing. They don't have any

885
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: place to turn to. They don't have Hoyt and Ogan Jobe,

886
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: they don't have Max Harrison, they don't have Ed Oliver

887
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: sitting on the bench. Some of them have other guys,

888
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: some of them have some of those problems. None of

889
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: them have got all of that coming back in Week

890
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: eight right where they're looking at it and going, listen,

891
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a shot in the arm, and it's

892
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: all gonna be from that. The stuff I just make,

893
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: it's all gonna be on the defensive side. All of

894
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: that's coming on the defensive side. So the Bills right

895
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: now are overcoming all the problems they have better than

896
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 3: any other team in the league. They've all got problems.

897
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: There's nobody with mistake free or problem free, and the

898
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: Bills are doing it better than anybody right now. So

899
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: let's you know, take a deep breath right now and say,

900
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: let's just there's time. Yes, there's a time to fix

901
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: what is ailing the Bills. And they've got a margin

902
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 3: of error now in the entire conference.

903
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: And as far as the Bengals, if they do trade Hendrickson,

904
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: they're not looking for an offensive player like Curtis Samuel.

905
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: They're looking for defensive help. And they might be looking,

906
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, for defensive help that can help them right

907
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: now and that can help them in the future in

908
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: the form of draft choice. So we'll see if they

909
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: get to that point. I think they're gonna go with

910
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: Jake Browning as long as they can see if they

911
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: can stay in the hunt, and if they can, well,

912
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: then they're not moving on from Hendrickson. But if they

913
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: get close to the trade deadline, it looks that way.

914
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be right.

915
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: They might be looking for that. And I did think

916
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: for a second yesterday Curtis Samuel's up for the first

917
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: time in four games. Maybe they are showcasing him a

918
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: little bit. We'll have to wait and see. There's no

919
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: way to know that. But you know, you can't dismiss

920
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: that theory out of hand. You can't just dismiss it.

921
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm not gonna say teams don't do this.

922
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if this team would do that. They're

923
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: not gonna They're going to have to give feed Curtis

924
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: Samuel targets so they can trade him. They're winning a game.

925
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probity an that one.

926
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 3: It does say something about we've talked about it already.

927
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: The roster thing about who's up, who is down, what position,

928
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: which side is a strategic It's very strategic in it,

929
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be really interesting to see how it

930
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: plays out.

931
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Break time for us here open lines for you at

932
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Speaker 2: eight oh three five point fifty one eighty eight five

933
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty. We are wide open in the

934
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: next segment, everybody on whole. We'll get to you when

935
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Speaker 2: we return for our number two on a Buffalo victory Monday.

936
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Speaker 2: Here on one Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. It's

937
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

938
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

939
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Buffalo victory Monday.

940
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we are wide

941
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: open for your phone calls here in our number two,

942
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get it right to the phones at

943
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: eight oh three h five fifty one eight eight five

944
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty to get your biggest takeaways from

945
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: yesterday's eleven point win or sorry, twelve point win. I

946
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: can it's math, Steve Public. Math is the worst twelve

947
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: point win over the Saints thirty one nineteen. And we

948
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: go to Jeff in Buffalo to lead us off. What's up, Jeff?

949
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 7: Hey, how are you doing?

950
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 12: Guys?

951
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: Good?

952
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 7: Hey?

953
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 12: Uh, real quick? If I just knock a couple things

954
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 12: off real quick? Are you just watching watching James Cook?

955
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 12: You know, just developed over the years and sort of

956
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 12: like seeing his style sort of like patience vision to

957
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 12: set up blocks, not just crashing.

958
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 7: Into the hole.

959
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 12: You know, I know that's a different style of runner.

960
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 12: Well it just seems like you know, watching him, uh,

961
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 12: two yards turns into five and five turns into seven.

962
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 12: It's it's a it's a beautiful thing as far as

963
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 12: that goes. That's just my take on that. And I'm

964
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 12: sure you guys appreciate same thing. But Ed Oliver or

965
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 12: what was ever his deal? Was it like a was

966
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 12: it a bruise? Does anybody know who stepped on him?

967
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 12: Somebody said he hurt himself on his horse. I mean,

968
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 12: this is all the kind of stuff. And if I

969
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 12: could just one more thing I heard earlier last week

970
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 12: about the Harrison thing, Maxwell Harrison, and it's sort of

971
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 12: like a mutter of like, well, if it's this year,

972
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 12: and I think that's a shame when it comes to

973
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 12: a first round pick. You want to talk about ruining

974
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 12: a kid's confidence just saying well, you know, even our

975
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 12: our defense isn't the greatest. You know, we don't really

976
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 12: have a spot for you, or you're not ready. And

977
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 12: I that lays on coaching and the bills always always

978
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 12: seemed to slow play there there, I should say upper

979
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 12: echelon or upper draft picks, whether it be a first

980
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 12: round or a second I understand, you know, they do

981
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 12: pretty well in the gems in the fourth and twifth round,

982
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 12: but they just seem to always slow play. And I'm thinking,

983
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 12: you know, if you don't get this kid on the field, well,

984
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 12: don't come next to your draft time. You really don't

985
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 12: know what you got in him. So I mean, even

986
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 12: to get him out there, and even if he's just

987
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 12: one of the fifty three and you use him spot duty,

988
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 12: you know, I just don't want to see him sit

989
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 12: all year. That's all right, thanks guys.

990
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: Yeahah said it was unfortunate his injury because they didn't

991
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: get surgery. They couldn't wipe him off the field, you know,

992
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: for the entire year, which and it's a good thing

993
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: that it's not that serious, but it does it does

994
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 3: set the narrative until he's over that injury. And this

995
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: built this team, this organization, this culture. They're not going

996
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: to throw him out there unless he's ready. And they

997
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: owe it to the way they run this thing over

998
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: here is and it's the I think it's the best

999
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: way to do it. Max gets what he's ready for.

1000
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: He'll get whatever opportunities or afforded him in the regular

1001
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: practice schedule. He'll start playing scout team defense against the offense,

1002
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: you know, getting ready for the new the next team's

1003
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 3: you know defense, he'll play like this week he would

1004
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: be playing a new England Patriot player in practice and

1005
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: playing corner where one of their guys would and he'd

1006
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: be wearing a different number. If this is where what

1007
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's doing that, but that's how it starts. Right,

1008
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: You give him that. That's what he gets because he's

1009
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: coming off an injury. They see how he does it,

1010
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: see how he moves, see how he feels. Then he

1011
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: gets a little more. Then he gets a little more.

1012
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: And it takes time because they owe it to the

1013
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: guys who have been busting a gut for six weeks

1014
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: and playing and contributing and making plays on the field

1015
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: and being there. Those guys earned it. That's what they get.

1016
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 3: So until that changes, until Max earns it and they say, okay,

1017
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: now you're ready for something, We're gonna give you a serie.

1018
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you a game jersey, and you're gonna

1019
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: play special teams. You're gonna do that. It takes a

1020
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: long time for the guy to earn it because you

1021
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: got to overcome the obstacle. It doesn't just mean like

1022
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna meet every challenge they give to him and

1023
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: crush it. Now, maybe he will, and that'll accelerate it.

1024
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: But that's the way it works. That's why Christian Benford

1025
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 3: is where he is. So that narrative has been set

1026
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: and until he's back one hundred percent healthy and can

1027
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: get some opportunities where he crushes it in the practice

1028
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: in the practice setting, he's not You're not gonna see

1029
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: him on game day that the injury had happened a

1030
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 3: week into training camp and he can't take a rep.

1031
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: He's missed two months, which is twice the amount of

1032
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: time that Cole Bishop missed last year.

1033
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna dominate the narrative around his career.

1034
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you until next year, unless he comes

1035
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: in this year and like makes play after play after

1036
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 3: getting on the field late mid through the midway through

1037
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 3: the season, gets on the field, makes some plays then

1038
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: and then gets to start of the until that happens,

1039
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: which I don't know that's gonna be hard to do.

1040
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: He's this is gonna dominate the narrative around Max Harriston

1041
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: all the way through next year in training camp, because

1042
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: it'll be a reminder of like, oh yeah, this is

1043
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: the time last year when he lost Max Harrison. It

1044
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: took him forever to get back and he finally got

1045
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: back and he played. Wonder what's going to be like

1046
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: now that he has a whole I mean, it's like

1047
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: Cole Bishop all over again.

1048
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only benefit for Harrison is his position is

1049
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: not as overarching with added responsibilities within the scope of

1050
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: the defense like a safety position is. There are a

1051
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: lot of individual responsibilities, but in terms of getting people

1052
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: lined up or adjusting things pre snap, he doesn't have

1053
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: to do that. So that could accelerate him getting on

1054
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: the field sooner than say a Bishop did last year.

1055
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: But they had to thrust Bishop into the lineup in

1056
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: Week five last year out of necessity because of injuries

1057
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: at the safety position. And what happened. He got burned

1058
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: on a sixty yard touchdown because he didn't roll over

1059
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: the top, he bit on a fake and Nico Collins

1060
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: is going for a sixty yard touchdown in Houston and

1061
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: that's what they try to avoid with their young players.

1062
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: To Steve's point, they don't want them to fall vic

1063
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: him to things that will impact either a their confidence

1064
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: b their consistency. So they try to nurture players and

1065
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: develop them in the practice setting where the where the

1066
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: consequences aren't as great, so that when they get to games,

1067
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: games are almost easy, even though the consequences are far greater.

1068
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: As for sorry, I was going to get into the

1069
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: Ed Oliver and the other things that he wants to

1070
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: talk about.

1071
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott alluded to this in his comments last week

1072
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: about Max Harriston, because he is getting closer to start

1073
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: doing some more stuff, maybe with the team instead of

1074
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: off the side by himself. He's still wearing a knee brace.

1075
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: But Sean McDermott, listen, we're tempering the expectations because once

1076
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: you's once you place those on the guy, now the

1077
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: pressure is back on the guy to like do something

1078
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: he may not be ready to do. So what this

1079
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: team does is they remove all expectations from a guy

1080
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: coming back from injury. You tell us what you can do,

1081
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 3: what you can't do, and then we're going to go

1082
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: from there. So we don't expect you to come back

1083
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 3: and start in week eight. You just get back where

1084
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: are you today, Let's go from there. And that gives

1085
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: these guys a chance to build their confidence so that

1086
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: the next step they take they're entirely ready for and

1087
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: it sets them up for success when they come back,

1088
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: rather than a series of setbacks which comes in. That's

1089
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: way it is. I mean, you see it.

1090
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: They want to put them on a trajectory that's just

1091
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: in a cent I mean, there are pitfalls in adversity

1092
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: that every young player faces, but they try to keep

1093
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: those to little dips, not catastrophic collapses. As for at

1094
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Oliver ankle injury, we don't know the nature of it.

1095
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: He's missed three games. Now people are going to speculate,

1096
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: is it high ankle?

1097
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: What is it? We don't know.

1098
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: It was never specified, so we have no idea and

1099
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: we don't even have a timetable on when he's supposed

1100
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: to be back. And then as for James Cook, I

1101
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: still look, the guy's got a tremendous and long list

1102
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: of gifts. I will maintain until his career is over

1103
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: that his best gift is his decision making with the

1104
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: ball in his hands, behind the line of scrimmage because

1105
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: he rarely makes the wrong decision. You can probably count

1106
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: on one hand with all the carries he's had where

1107
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: you say, oh, that wasn't a good decision by him.

1108
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: He knows when to stick his foot of the ground

1109
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: and hit it, and then he knows when to be

1110
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: patient and wait for the hole to open. He is

1111
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: outstanding at that, and it's why you very rarely ever

1112
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: see him have a carry for no gain or for loss.

1113
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: It is usually something positive and even when there is

1114
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: nothing there, he gets you positive yards. That's what makes

1115
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: him so effective and so productive.

1116
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: I've talked about other receip running backs in my career

1117
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: where you think, you know, the guy just never makes

1118
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: a mistake with the ball in his hands. He gets

1119
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 3: every yard to coming to him. He makes the right

1120
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: cut every every time. His vision is great now that

1121
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: James Cook does that, But he also has the ability

1122
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: that I that is rare of having the ability, the

1123
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: vision and the patience and all the stuff that Brownie

1124
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: just mentioned to make good things out of bad things.

1125
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 3: It's not that he just you know, he doesn't lose

1126
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: any yards he's not supposed to. He doesn't, you know,

1127
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 3: he gets the yards of supposed to. He gets yards

1128
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: he has no right to get at this moment. And

1129
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he snaps off a fifty yarder every time,

1130
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: but a two yard loss into a three yard gain,

1131
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 3: that's a five yard difference.

1132
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: That that adds up and keeps your offense on set.

1133
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: And that is just as important in the moment as

1134
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: it is having the ability to, you know, turn the

1135
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 3: corner and outrun six people. He can do both. That's

1136
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: the rare. The rare thing is when you get a

1137
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 3: guy that makes chicken salad out of chicken poop. Yeah,

1138
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: and that's rare.

1139
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to Let's go to Bobby and Buffalo next.

1140
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: What's up, Bobby?

1141
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how you doing the good? Good listen? I was,

1142
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 13: I was just listening to what Steve Tasker was talking about.

1143
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 13: But you were talking about cold Bishop. But my biggest

1144
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 13: takeaway from the game yesterday was I was absolutely penalties.

1145
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 13: Too many penalties. Oh my god, it was penalty penalties

1146
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 13: that didn't that didn't even make sense on yesterday. But

1147
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 13: that was that was my takeaway. But the biggest, but

1148
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 13: but the biggest turnaround that the turning point from the

1149
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 13: entire game. Now, Steve Tasker, you talked about Cold Bishop.

1150
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 13: His interception was the entire what was the whole turning

1151
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 13: point of the entire game. That what I'm telling you

1152
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 13: that was that was the most greatest interception I ever

1153
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 13: seen in my life. It seemed like Cold Bishop just

1154
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 13: reached up from the heavens and said, thank you God

1155
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 13: for this football. I mean, that was a great interception.

1156
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 13: Now that's number one. Number two, guys, I'm looking at

1157
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 13: I'm looking at the I'm looking at this too. Now,

1158
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 13: we have two undefeated teams left in the NFL. Both

1159
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 13: the Buffalo Bills and the Philadelphia Eagles are both four

1160
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 13: and oho.

1161
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 6: Now I was online. I'm looking at the Bill schedule

1162
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 6: and I'm looking at the Philadelphia Eagles schedule. Now, if

1163
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 6: both of these teams still be undefeated about time the

1164
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles gets here by week seventeen, could we have

1165
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 6: a possible Super Bowl match?

1166
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 13: Guys, answer that question.

1167
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to say. Now we know they're defending Super

1168
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: Bowl champs. They're both the only undefeated teams in the

1169
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: league right now. So I understand why you going there,

1170
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: But oh my god, do you want me to tell

1171
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: you what's gonna what it's gonna look like on December

1172
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: twenty eighth. I mean, I can't tell you what this

1173
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: weekend's game is gonna look like against the Patriots.

1174
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that seems light years away, Bobby. But I

1175
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: see your training thought. Yeah, you could see it, and

1176
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: you could say, you know, it's gonna be an AFC

1177
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 3: championship matchup when the Bills faced the Chiefs here in

1178
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: high Mark in a month. But the landscape's ever changing

1179
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: week But you're right, it's interesting you said the greatest

1180
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: interception you've ever seen by Cole Bishop. So I did

1181
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: a quick thing on my rolodex. It might be Micah's

1182
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: interception of Mac Jones in the Division round of the

1183
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: playoffs in the perfect playoff game, when the came out

1184
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: of the sky with that. He covered so much ground

1185
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: and got his hand on that ball. That was the

1186
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: first drive of the game for the Patriots, and it

1187
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: snuffed out any hope they had. It was an absolutely

1188
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: gur guys pulling this up.

1189
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 8: Uh.

1190
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: He covered so much ground and snatched that away from

1191
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne. That was out Agalore, Agalore, Nelson, Agilore, And

1192
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: that was an absolute phenomenal interception. But uh, that game

1193
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: in retrospect, that game wasn't going any other way than

1194
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: the way it went that night with our the Bills

1195
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 3: offense playing the way it was and you know them

1196
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:33,479
Speaker 3: having you know, Mac Jones at quarterback. So maybe Cole

1197
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: Bishop's interception and it was good, there's no denying. And

1198
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: it was an athletic achrog. He read it. But I

1199
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: don't know in a playoff game, I think that one

1200
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 3: might take it, might take it.

1201
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: Let's not forget Taron Johnson and one yards. That's the

1202
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: right not only an interception, but a touchdown the other way.

1203
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: Hundred and one and it was a seven. It was

1204
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: a seventeen ten game for athletic to three of difficulty.

1205
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: I understand where Bobby's coming from. It was it was

1206
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: a very nice interception by Bishop.

1207
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 7: Yesday.

1208
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: What was the score of this game when tarn did this,

1209
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 3: It was ten?

1210
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: It was a one score game, yeah, because they only

1211
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: won seventeen.

1212
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: Ten seventeen ten, Yeah, it might have been ten three

1213
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: at this I don't know. I can't remember, but that's

1214
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: an all time that was. I forgot about that one too.

1215
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: That's amazing that yeah, yeah.

1216
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: But that was and Bobby You're also right about the penalties.

1217
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: They were a major problem yesterday. I thought some of

1218
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: the calls were pretty ticky tack. There were a couple

1219
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: holding calls that were absolute hop garbage. But you got

1220
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 2: to adjust when when an officiating crew is calling it tight,

1221
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: you have to adjust to that.

1222
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got to the point of ridiculousness yesterday. I thought,

1223
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: so I don't hitting me.

1224
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but eleven penalties are too many, that's right.

1225
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: And you're right, Bobby that that's something it's easy to

1226
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: forget amid you know, a twelve point win, but that

1227
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: there was a point there where yeah, I was like, man,

1228
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: oh man, what is going on? Yeah, it was one

1229
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: thing at.

1230
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: Well, it got to the point where the crowd when

1231
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: there was another flag started booing the refs. They started

1232
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: a chant which cannot be repeated on the air, right,

1233
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: And then the next play, when there wasn't a flag thrown,

1234
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: there was an audible bronx cheer. Right, So yeah, it

1235
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: got a little nuts. Let's go to Cameron in West

1236
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: senecon Nex. What's up, Cameron?

1237
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 14: Hey, how you guys doing good?

1238
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: Good?

1239
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 14: I just wanted to you know, I'm at work, so

1240
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 14: it's you know, Bill's victory Monday. But uh, you know,

1241
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 14: I listened to the radio while I'm at work, and

1242
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 14: I just hear a lot of Bills Fin saying that,

1243
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 14: you know, the defense, it doesn't you know, they don't

1244
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 14: look the best right now, but I think we forget

1245
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 14: about how many injuries like Matt Mulano at Oliver were missing,

1246
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,479
Speaker 14: Michael Hoyt and Larry Jogan, Jobi. There's just a bunch

1247
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 14: of things that are missing on defense, especially Maxwell Harrison.

1248
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 14: And you know he is a rookie, but I do

1249
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 14: believe that because he's around people like Today White and

1250
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 14: Christia Benford and things like that, I really believe we

1251
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 14: can mold them just like we did the Josh Allen

1252
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 14: and mold them into something great. And I just wanted

1253
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 14: to hear your guys' perspective on it.

1254
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we kind of touched on this a

1255
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: little bit earlier, but thanks to the call, Cameron, Yeah,

1256
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: the cavalry is coming. They may not all show up

1257
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: at the same time, but you're gonna get pieces back,

1258
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, as the weeks move along here hopefully, and

1259
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: these guys that are injured to get back to full health.

1260
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 2: And you know, you're getting the suspended guys for week eight,

1261
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: coming off the bye in week seven, So yeah, you're

1262
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: getting reinforcements on the side of the ball where you

1263
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: look like you need them right now.

1264
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the Bills have got a larger

1265
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 3: margin of error than most teams do, and they've got

1266
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: they're undefeated so far, they're four to zero, and they've

1267
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: got a couple of healthy guys that were in training

1268
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: camp all the way up to the regular season in

1269
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: camp with them ready to go and ready to kind

1270
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 3: of plug in and go. And they're gonna have two

1271
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 3: weeks to get ready. They're gonna have the bye week,

1272
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 3: they're gonna come in right after the Atlanta game, be

1273
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 3: there through the bye week, and and hit the ground

1274
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: running against Kansas City here in Hymark. That feels pretty good.

1275
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: It's also getting you feel like you're getting closer toward

1276
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: having Max Harrison at least available to start getting ready

1277
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: to play right. And of course Milano has it's not

1278
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 3: a bad injury for him either, although you know most

1279
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: people are like getting impatient with his inability to stay healthy.

1280
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 3: The guy's a difference maker if he gets on the field,

1281
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 3: and it doesn't look like this is going to be

1282
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: a long term injury, this peck injury that he has.

1283
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 3: So you throw all that in plus Ed Oliver getting

1284
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 3: back in the in the lineup, so all of that

1285
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 3: feel makes it feel like, at least and even on paper,

1286
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: look like the Bills have got another gear they can

1287
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: go to defensively. But it also kind of feels at

1288
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: the same time like you can't depend on it.

1289
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because they don't want to. You likes to

1290
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: see it look better.

1291
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: Right, because you know what happens when you know, Hoyd

1292
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 3: comes back, he gets injured, Ed gets injured again, Milana

1293
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: goes down again, Max Harrison takes longer than anything, and

1294
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 3: all this stuff is hurkiye jerky. None of this stuff

1295
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: is just going to be like a light switch that

1296
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: flips on. It's going to be one guy here for

1297
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: a game and then if he can stay healthy, he's

1298
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 3: back in. He stays. Then another guy comes in, plays

1299
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: like Gangbusters. That's great. Then another guy comes up. No,

1300
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 3: he's had a setback. He has to go back to.

1301
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's not going to be just a light switch,

1302
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 3: but it does feel like the Bills have the margin

1303
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 3: of error defensively, and the guy's coming back and some

1304
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: some possibilities that you can sit here and sit tight

1305
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: for a minute and say, Okay, let's see what happens

1306
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 3: when these guys do get plugged in to Chris in

1307
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 3: Lancaster next, what's up Chris?

1308
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call, right, you know,

1309
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 15: to feed off of the guy that just called it.

1310
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 15: You know, I'm always thankful watching our games. I'm sixty

1311
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 15: five years old that we have the best quarterback arguably

1312
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 15: on the planet. But and not to be a Debbie downer,

1313
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 15: but you know, it's game after game, year after year.

1314
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 15: This defense, I would almost say, is terrible and we

1315
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 15: just can't seem to stop anybody. You look at the

1316
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 15: in the three playoff games he lost, since he casey twice,

1317
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 15: the points, the yardage we allowed. It just seems like,

1318
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 15: being just honest my opinion, that our quarterback bails out

1319
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 15: our head coach game after game, and at what point

1320
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 15: and we're four and oh right, I mean, at what

1321
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 15: point do we say our defense, whether it's the people

1322
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 15: he drafts with being or his philosophy, his scheme. When

1323
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 15: I watched that Philly Super Bowl last year, it just

1324
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 15: blew me away with how they owned the Kansas City offense.

1325
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 15: It just doesn't seem to be getting any better. And

1326
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 15: I just don't know at what point we start to

1327
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 15: hold our head coach accountable.

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 10: Here's let me agree at all.

1329
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me say that I got a

1330
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 3: little bit of a different take on it. You look

1331
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: around the league and teams with elite quarterbacks like Cincinnati,

1332
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: like Baltimore, Kansas City, even LA to a certain extent,

1333
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: although LA they were kind of waiting on Justin Herbert

1334
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 3: to show up until Jim Harbaugh got there. He didn't

1335
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: right the Rams. Yeah, certainly, Matt Stafford is there. Teams

1336
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: with elite court at Philly as well, teams with elite quarterbacks.

1337
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: Last year the Washington Commanders, same thing. They had a

1338
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 3: quarterback that was playing really well as a young guy.

1339
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: That's the way it looks when you've got a guy

1340
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: playing at elite level in the NFL. He bails everybody out,

1341
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: not the head coach and the play. He bails out

1342
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 3: his teammates, he bails out the GM, he bails out

1343
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: the head coach, he bails out the owner, he bails

1344
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: out the fans. That's the way it looks. That's that's

1345
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: the way that that's the way that it's built. When

1346
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: you've got that guy, you got a chance. There are

1347
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 3: teams around whose head coaches take a lot of heat

1348
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: because they can't get to the next level. And I'll

1349
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: give you any perfect example, Mike Tomlin. There's the voice

1350
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: in the Pittsburgh Steelers Steelers fan nation, small minority because

1351
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: a lot of people are too smart to think this way.

1352
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: They're saying, he can't he can't win without Ben Roethlisberger,

1353
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: he can't win the Super Well, yeah, that's the way

1354
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: it works. That's the way it works. As good as

1355
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 3: their defense is. They don't get it done unless they

1356
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: have a quarterback, and they haven't had one. Now they've

1357
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: got Aaron Rodgers. They're playing pretty well. They're at the

1358
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: top of their division. Again, the quarterback is supposed to

1359
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: do that. If you've got an elite quarterback who does that,

1360
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: that's what you're looking for. Then you get you know,

1361
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: when Jared Goff was playing with Ben Johnson over there, Yeah,

1362
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: he bailed them out their offenses. Their offense is now

1363
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 3: clicking in Detroit. They're scoring forty points a game. That's

1364
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 3: the way it works. So this team is built this way,

1365
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: and you can compare them to Philly if you want.

1366
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: But Philly had some things happened to them that made

1367
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 3: some players available that weren't available to Buffalo.

1368
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got knocked out of the playoffs early one year.

1369
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: They had a ten and six season. They they had

1370
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: and they and their GM traded up in the draft.

1371
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: He made some trades to move up in the draft

1372
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: and he picked in the top fifteen, right, got people

1373
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: like Jalen Carter who had fallen.

1374
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and you know, so you've got a

1375
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: lot of things. Every team is the same, but every

1376
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 3: team is unique and different as well because of what

1377
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: are the opportunities that are presented to them in the

1378
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: draft and free agency, all of that stuff. Their salary

1379
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: cap where it is now, and because they have to

1380
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: pay the guys, they like to pay what is available

1381
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: to him. So yeah, you can, you can. That's been

1382
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 3: Buffalo's path, the one that you mentioned. Their defense has

1383
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 3: always been asked to kind of live up to their

1384
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: end of it, and as now you can say, maybe

1385
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: they haven't, but that's the way this team is built

1386
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 3: to win. Right now, They've got to do what they

1387
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: do better. On the last game of the year in

1388
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 3: order to do it, and you can say, well, they're

1389
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: never gonna do it with this de Well, we've been

1390
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 3: talking about that the whole show. Maybe this year, with

1391
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 3: the with the additions that are coming up, through the

1392
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 3: off the injury list and through the suspensions and all that,

1393
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 3: maybe these guys will turn the corner and be just,

1394
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: let's face it, you're talking this much. I'm holding up

1395
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 3: my finger and thumb just an inch. That's all much

1396
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: better they gotta be. Because I said it earlier in

1397
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 3: the show, Yeah, this is a championship caliber club. Maybe

1398
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: not a championship caliber defense, but with this offense and

1399
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 3: everything else that's in it, yeah, they're gonna be right

1400
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 3: there again. So you may not like the way because

1401
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 3: of the way it has ended for the Bills. You

1402
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: may say, hey, they're not they've got this problem. Yeah,

1403
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: but everybody else got different problems that are causing them

1404
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 3: to be this far away, a foot away, not just

1405
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: an inch, but a foot away.

1406
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 7: So the.

1407
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 3: His task at hand is to play a little better

1408
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: on the last game of the season and win that

1409
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: game and go on instead of losing it by this much.

1410
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: That's a much better place to be than any of

1411
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 3: those other teams you could mention, and with that we.

1412
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: Will take a break, but we'll take more of your

1413
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return here. On a Buffalo victory

1414
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: Monday on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, it's

1415
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio Rattler in the shotgun. Here's the snap

1416
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: orbit motion. It's a reverse a Lave going Philly special,

1417
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: and it's intercepted by Cold Bishop at the two yard

1418
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: line and up the sideline. He goes, what a play

1419
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: by Cold Bishop? Is your big energy play of the

1420
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: week presented by National Grid. National Grid is a proud

1421
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills. That was a big energy play.

1422
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: You could argue it might have been a turning point

1423
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: in the football game. I's fourteen to ten, Saints are

1424
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: going in to take the lead.

1425
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 3: I have already asserted that on our.

1426
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 2: Show, asserted that certainly did, and.

1427
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: I will stand by that assertion.

1428
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: We want your assertions at eight oh three oh five

1429
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

1430
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: those are the numbers to jump on board with us.

1431
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: And we go back to the phones and to Mike

1432
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: down in Pennsylvania. What's up, Mike, Hey, guys, what a

1433
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:31,839
Speaker 2: what a beautiful day yesterday.

1434
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 15: Bill.

1435
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 11: You know, the Bills do what they do on offense,

1436
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 11: and you know they consistently put up thirty points. They

1437
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 11: are relying a lot on James Cook, who is running

1438
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 11: the ball extremely well. I just if he goes down

1439
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 11: knock on wood. I wonder how that offense is going

1440
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 11: to manufacture some threat because I don't see one on

1441
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 11: the outside. As I crawled in last week. And Tasker,

1442
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 11: I think you got offended because uh, you know they're

1443
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 11: scoring thirty points. But I mean me watching on the

1444
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 11: you know, watching the game in the stands, there's no

1445
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 11: threat of any deep ball.

1446
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: They're just not.

1447
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 11: And I look across the league and there there is.

1448
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 11: And I know it's double safety and it's hard to

1449
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 11: do that, and you know teams counter you, but you

1450
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 11: gotta beat it. I mean, you got you got Allen's arm.

1451
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 11: I mean, I like what they're doing on offense. They're

1452
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 11: scoring thirty points. They got three tight ends and you

1453
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 11: know that's that's good, and they're running the ball well.

1454
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 11: But there there's gonna be a time they're gonna have

1455
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 11: to face it and they're gonna have to chuck the

1456
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 11: ball down the field and they I don't know where

1457
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 11: they where they where they get that from. Who's gonna

1458
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 11: step up and be that deep threat even if you

1459
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 11: don't connect. They tried to yesterday and it got picked off.

1460
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 11: Great play by the safety got picked off. I'm not

1461
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 11: not worried about the defense. That's where all my concerns lie.

1462
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 8: And I know it looks good.

1463
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 11: Now we're four and oh, I get it. I understand.

1464
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 11: I'm just you know, yeah, you know, picking points here,

1465
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 11: but it's a it's a real it's a real concern.

1466
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 9: Guys.

1467
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 11: You gotta have speed down the down the stretch, and

1468
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 11: you're gonna have to eventually score a lot of points.

1469
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 11: Do you have the firepower to keep up with the chiefs? Uh?

1470
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 9: You know when it when it, when it matters.

1471
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. I'll say this. I don't I

1472
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying. But what you're forgetting is if

1473
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: a team's gonna stop this offense, they're gonna have to

1474
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: come up into the box and stop the run game.

1475
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 3: And if they're coming up into the box, it isn't

1476
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 3: too deep shell anymore. When James Cook stops rushing for

1477
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: one hundred yards or stops getting twenty two plus carries

1478
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: a game. It's because the teams have now decided to

1479
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 3: go one high. When they start deciding to go one high, Josh,

1480
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 3: you're gonna sling it. It's that simple.

1481
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: But that's why he's worried about. That's that's James Cook

1482
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 2: getting hurt.

1483
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's right. Yeah, if if James, if they can

1484
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: come down into the box and stop this offense or

1485
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: stop the run game by playing too high shell and

1486
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 3: bless their heart, they they deserve to win. I don't

1487
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: think they can.

1488
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: I at the Saints did yesterday. They were playing man

1489
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 2: coverage early, fourteen points are on the board because Josh

1490
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: and the receivers are cutting them up in man coverage.

1491
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: They have fourteen points on the board, and then they're like, oh,

1492
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we should play too high shell.

1493
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Like everybody else. They were averaging a slow down.

1494
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: They were averaging nine yards a play on the first

1495
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: two drives. So you know, teams have to adjust to

1496
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 3: beat them. You can say, what your yeah, if James

1497
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 3: Cook go down, what happens if Josh goes down? Then

1498
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: what you know? Yeah, okay, what if if James Cook

1499
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 3: goes down? The Bills will have to figure out a

1500
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 3: little bit different offensive strategy. If Ty Johnson and Ray

1501
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 3: Davis can't at least force a defense to do something

1502
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,839
Speaker 3: against them, if they can stop with a seven man box,

1503
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 3: if they can stop that run game, then yeah, the

1504
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: Bills are gonna have to change their horse and do

1505
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: something different. But they haven't had to yet. Uh, And

1506
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: that's kind of the way the standard is around the NFL.

1507
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 3: You get too high safeties to keep a lid on

1508
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 3: the defense. You don't want to give up the deep ball,

1509
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: the long play, the explosive play. The Bills have been

1510
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 3: able to get explosive plays with Khalil Shakir catching a

1511
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 3: short passer, James cook Out running guys.

1512
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: To the edge, or scheming a guy completely che right, they.

1513
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 3: Scheme a guy wide open. So the big play is

1514
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 3: what defenses are the most afraid of. So they're going

1515
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: to do whatever it takes to keep a lid on that.

1516
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 3: If you can't scare them with a want with a

1517
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 3: long play and they go single high safety, go man underneath,

1518
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: or even if they go single high, shallow zone underneath,

1519
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: if you can't scare him with a big play out

1520
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: of that, yeah you're up against it. I think the

1521
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: Bills do that quite a bit without James Cook. Now

1522
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: he's on the field some, but they're throwing it to Kinkai,

1523
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: they're throwing it to Shakir. They got some guys that

1524
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 3: can go after they catch it. They've got you know,

1525
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 3: uh Keon Coleman. They're not afraid to go to. Keon

1526
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 3: caught a couple of deep He caught a deep dig

1527
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: route across the middle yesterday and then he caught that

1528
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: one on the sideline deep come back on the sideline

1529
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 3: yesterday as well. So the Bills have plenty of weapons

1530
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 3: to beat them anyway they want. They haven't been forced

1531
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 3: to do that. I know it gives you the idea

1532
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: that maybe they can't do any of that. But they

1533
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 3: take the high percentage throw, they're hard to beat. They

1534
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: don't turn it over because they're taking what the defense

1535
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: gives them. The balls not put at risk very much.

1536
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: You can't beat that team doing that. So teams are

1537
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 3: gonna have to do something. That's the idea. Offensively, the

1538
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 3: Bills are forcing defenses to do something drastic, like.

1539
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 2: We saw the Dolphins do last week with four defensive.

1540
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 3: They're forcing teams to do something drastic to hang in

1541
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: there with them.

1542
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 2: That's right where you want them to be, and.

1543
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: That's where you want them to be. That's where you

1544
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: want them to be. Don't think the Bills can't do

1545
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: something because they haven't had to do it yet, because

1546
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 3: there have been instances where they've done everything and done

1547
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 3: it well. There have been instances where Josh had to

1548
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. In the last third

1549
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter against Baltimore, Josh made a couple

1550
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: of throws that were darts and they had guys on

1551
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 3: the other end of it that actually caught the ball.

1552
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 3: I mean, so it's this, I'm with you. This offense

1553
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: is a wagon. They're hard to stop and they're forcing

1554
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 3: defenses to do drastic and exaggerated adjustments in order to

1555
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: stop them. That's where you got them where you want them.

1556
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: So then some of the other stuff you said, I

1557
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: don't know.

1558
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: That was pretty much.

1559
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 3: That's it.

1560
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bob in Lancaster next here.

1561
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 9: What's up Bob, Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call.

1562
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 9: As always, it's really great to see our guys step

1563
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 9: up and do the kind of place that we need

1564
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 9: to do to win a game. But one of the

1565
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 9: things that you said earlier about this tackles, and I

1566
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 9: kind of noticed this, and you can correct me if

1567
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 9: I'm wrong, but we seem to leave our feet a

1568
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 9: little early when we're going after the ball carrier. And

1569
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 9: once you do that, of course, you can't change direction,

1570
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 9: you can't too much of anything. And I've seen that

1571
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 9: across the games, but a lot more even in this game.

1572
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 9: And maybe it's the mix of the people on the field,

1573
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 9: I don't know, but but I like to see if

1574
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 9: you're if you're coming after the ball carrier, uh, don't

1575
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 9: don't go for the for the diving tackle. Uh, stay

1576
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 9: on your feet. You know you can corral the guy better.

1577
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 9: You have a better shot at a tackling a move.

1578
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 9: Once you leave your feet, unless you're you're one hundred

1579
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 9: percent accurate, you're not going to get the tackle. And

1580
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 9: that's kind of what I've been seeing a little bit

1581
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 9: too much of for my liking. I just like to

1582
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 9: hear your thoughts on that.

1583
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: I think sometimes and I'm not going to say this

1584
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: is the case every time, Bob, but when you see

1585
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 2: defenders diving at people to make tackles, it's because they're

1586
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: out of position. They've taken a false step one way,

1587
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: and now they're not in their normal position to make

1588
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: a play. That's you know, coming to them or what

1589
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: have you, Or maybe they misread a play and they're

1590
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: trying to get back into position. They realize, this is

1591
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 2: my last chance to make a play on this ball carrier.

1592
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 2: I have to lay out to try to get to

1593
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 2: that spot, and it's very hard to make a tackle

1594
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: that way unless, to your point, you're exactly on target.

1595
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: That's usually one of the main issues as to why

1596
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: a player will make a diving attempt at a tackle.

1597
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: They're out of position, or they didn't fundamentally break down

1598
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: and properly square up and make a hit. But very

1599
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: often if they're not in the right spot, they don't

1600
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: have any choice but to dive at a ballcarrier to

1601
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: try and make a play.

1602
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: You see a lot of You saw a lot of

1603
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 3: mistackles yesterday when guys were way out in space as well. Yeah,

1604
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: thing that's frustrating sometimes is you'll see a defensive end

1605
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Javon Solomon wants and epinessa once, maybe Rousseau and certainly

1606
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,560
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. You get those quarterbacks out in space and

1607
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 3: an athlete like Lamar or even you know Rattler, Spencer

1608
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: Rattler yesterday. They can they're nifty enough to give you

1609
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: a move. And I think what defensive ends and defensive

1610
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 3: linemen do is because they're always trying to get the quarterback,

1611
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: get the quarterback, get the quarterback, and it's such a

1612
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 3: level of kind of desperation to get there quick to

1613
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: help out the guys in the back end and get

1614
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 3: a sack, and they cheat it and plus before he

1615
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: can get rid of the ball, that kind of thing.

1616
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: There's a lack of desire to break down and get

1617
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: your balance back and force the quarterback to pull it

1618
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 3: down because if he's not ready to throw it right

1619
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 3: at that moment you break down, he feels he has

1620
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 3: to leave, so he can't throw it while he's thinking

1621
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: about leaving the pocket because you know, because they're broken

1622
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: down right in front of it. And what you say

1623
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 3: is gather themselves. I think it's a great point. You

1624
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 3: got to gather yourself to give yourself the ability to

1625
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 3: tackle the guy even if he's gonna throw a move

1626
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 3: at you. And it doesn't always work because sometimes there's

1627
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 3: just too much space and it's too easy to get

1628
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 3: away from somebody out in the open field, but in

1629
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: the pocket when you got guys coming in. I think

1630
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: the Saints did a nice job of this against Josh.

1631
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: They closed the pocket. Josh had no place, that no space, right,

1632
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: he had no space on the three sacks he got.

1633
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: And that's the best part about it. If you break

1634
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 3: through as a defensive player and you got a guy

1635
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: you can't lunge because six year old kids can avoid

1636
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 3: their friends who lunge at them, right, it's the easiest side.

1637
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: You just sidestep the guy. You can't lunge, and that's

1638
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: hard to do because you feel like you're not you're

1639
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: you're not chasing him anymore when you gather yourself. What

1640
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 3: that does is it forces the quarterback to say, oh,

1641
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 3: he's right there, I gotta do something. He's waiting for

1642
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 3: the defender to do something. And while he's waiting, the

1643
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: clock sticking, and it's that we're talking micro seconds. He's

1644
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: waiting for the guy to lunch at. You know, that's

1645
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: I used to cover kicks like that all the time.

1646
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: Returners don't know what to do when you don't lunge

1647
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 3: at them. They don't know what to They force them

1648
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 3: to make they've got to make a decision, and that

1649
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: hesitation take is that hesitation in that micro second you

1650
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 3: don't give him the answer. Yeah, that hesitation allows your

1651
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: fellow coverage guys to take two extra steps, which is

1652
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 3: five yards, right, I mean it's closing in. When you

1653
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 3: force the ball carrier to make a decision, his decision

1654
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 3: takes him a split second. That split second is light

1655
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: years in a football game.

1656
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: Yet, that's why you don't lunge, because when you lunge,

1657
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: you hand the ball carrier an answer. You give him

1658
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 2: an answer that doesn't have to think. He just reacts.

1659
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 3: That's right, that's that's the same thing. It isn't soccer,

1660
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: same thing, same thing.

1661
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I would tell

1662
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: my kids that I coached, don't lunge, don't a million times.

1663
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: Don't attack the guy with the ball, because he's got

1664
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: a play. He's you're gonna give him the like you say,

1665
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 3: give him the answer so in the pocket. That's why

1666
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: they tell guy teams like to rush Josh to rush

1667
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 3: Lamar to rush Mahomes. Don't cross an X because you

1668
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: open up alleyways, just squeeze him in, make him decide

1669
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: when it's time to run.

1670
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls.

1671
01:28:42,720 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: Next here on one. Bill's Live, stay tuned QB check

1672
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 2: In is presented by the University of Wyoming. You're ready

1673
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 2: for any field with the University of Wyoming, a proud

1674
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 2: partner of the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen went sixteen

1675
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: of twenty two passing yesterday. It's a completion percentage of

1676
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: almost seventy three percent, two hundred nine yards through the air,

1677
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns, one rushing, one passing. Actually had

1678
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: two passing, didn't he Yeah, two passing touchdowns and a

1679
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown, one interception his first of the year, and

1680
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: a one thirteen point six passer rating. Also had forty

1681
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: five yards on the ground and there it is. So

1682
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 2: that is your QB check in. We also have a

1683
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: check in regarding the Bill's punting situation. As you know,

1684
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Cameron Johnson was roffed on a punt that extended a

1685
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 2: scoring drive for the Bills. But NFL Networks ian Rappaport

1686
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: is reporting that Bill punter Cameron Johnston suffered a lower

1687
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 2: leg injury and is expected to miss some time. There

1688
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: is no decision yet as to whether ir is in

1689
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: the cards, but as Rapaport is reporting, he says Bills

1690
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: will need another punter for this week, so plus in

1691
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 2: four games, the Bills are going to be on their

1692
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 2: third punter. According to NFL insider Ian Rapaport that they

1693
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: nothing official from the.

1694
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 3: Game back in and as we all saw, held for

1695
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 3: that last field goal to put it up to thirty

1696
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: one points. But man, oh man, he got hit hard.

1697
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 3: There was no two ways about it. It was an

1698
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: absolute penalty in desperate moment for the Saints, and he

1699
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 3: paid the price for it. That was rough, rough, And.

1700
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:49,520
Speaker 2: This is particularly rough for Johnston because he had rehabbed

1701
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: all of last year from a knee injury that he

1702
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: sustained after getting run into two years ago. So he

1703
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 2: had rehabbed that injury, came all the way back and

1704
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: you know, was recently cleared and he just got back,

1705
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 2: you know, signed a deal with the Bills, as we know,

1706
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 2: in week two, and here in week four he suffers

1707
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 2: a lower leg injury. And again according to NFL insider

1708
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: Ian Rapaport, he's reporting the Cameron Johnson is going to

1709
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 2: miss some time. Not clear yet on whether I are

1710
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,560
Speaker 2: as a consideration or not, but according to him, the

1711
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 2: Bills are gonna need another punter for this week's game.

1712
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Coach McDermott's schedule to meet the media at four o'clock,

1713
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 2: so he'll probably provide further clarity on that. But that

1714
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: is the report as of right now. Let's get back

1715
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: to the phones and we go to Kevin in Buffalo next.

1716
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 5: What's up, Kevin, Oh, gentleman, Hawaii.

1717
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 8: Good to be on.

1718
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to have you.

1719
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1720
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, being a Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Sabers

1721
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 5: and New York Mets fans really takes a toll on

1722
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 5: your soul, hand of your blood pressure sometimes. But with

1723
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 5: that's he said, it was a great victory yesterday. Just

1724
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 5: a couple of comments on both sides of the ball there.

1725
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 5: Starting off with the offense. Uh, you know, one of

1726
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 5: the players that worked very well for us well over

1727
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 5: eighty percent of the times they were successes and we

1728
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 5: we've gone away from it is the Tush push, which

1729
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 5: I thought maybe we would have seen on that fourth

1730
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 5: and short yesterday. I do think it was a good

1731
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 5: play the offensive line and tripped up or else. I

1732
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 5: definitely think he would have hit that kick that kickout block,

1733
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 5: and there was you know, we were open. But are

1734
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 5: we doubling down on the fact that we voted to

1735
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 5: get you know, do away with the tush push even

1736
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 5: though besides the Eagles, we were the only ones to

1737
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 5: really use it and very successfully throughout the year. That's uh,

1738
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 5: that's you know first. Secondly on the defense. You know,

1739
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 5: I think I love our team's trajectory and I think

1740
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 5: it's a great team.

1741
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 9: Uh, However, the.

1742
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 5: Defense is a little bit of a liability at this point.

1743
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,600
Speaker 5: There have been big plays turnovers three out of the

1744
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 5: four games, which is not really sustainable. And I know,

1745
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 5: we say we have the Calvary's coming back in with

1746
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 5: a you know, players getting back from injury, from suspension.

1747
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 5: But as you know, this is you know, the NFL,

1748
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 5: It's the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world, and

1749
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,799
Speaker 5: you're only one play away from another injury. Look at yesterday,

1750
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 5: you know, when Bernard went down for that one play,

1751
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 5: I mean he didn't get up and I think all

1752
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: of Phil's Mafia nation was holding their breath there. So

1753
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 5: it's not given that the Cavalry is gonna all come

1754
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,560
Speaker 5: back and stay healthy, you know, God willing they do.

1755
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 7: For the team.

1756
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 5: But that being said, you know, we get the defense.

1757
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 5: We're in the playoffs. If we have another defensive meltdown

1758
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 5: where a team just lights us up, all right, is

1759
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 5: there a little bit of a hot seat for the

1760
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 5: head coach? That's number one? Number two is Joe Brady

1761
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 5: and Josh Allen are a great do I would hate

1762
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 5: to see Brady to lose him to a head coaching job,

1763
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 5: which I'm sure he'll have some offers.

1764
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 2: Yep.

1765
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 5: You know, those two are like Neo and Morpheus.

1766
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 12: You know, if there is and we have the if if.

1767
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 5: There's that meltdown defensively, which is our head coaches specialties,

1768
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 5: is there a possibility of maybe even keeping Brady and

1769
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 5: instead of him going into head coaching somewhere else, you know, saying, Hey.

1770
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Kevin. Sorry, we're up against

1771
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: the break, so I gotta let you go. Look, Sean

1772
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: McDermott is one of five coaches in the history of

1773
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 2: the league that's won eleven games or more in five

1774
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 2: straight seasons. Two of them are in the Hall of Fame.

1775
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 2: The other two are going to be there because they're

1776
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: named Belichick and Reid. The guy just won his ninetieth

1777
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 2: game in his first one and thirty five. There's eleven

1778
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 2: other coaches that have done that. Nine of them are

1779
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. I mean we're talking names

1780
01:34:57,080 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 2: like Curly Lambeau, George Seaffert. I mean, it's it's an

1781
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: unbelievable list. Bud Grant, he's doing rare things here.

1782
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1783
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: Sure, as a Bill's head coach.

1784
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: So the answer is no, it would take a total

1785
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 3: collapse for the rest of the season. Yeah, plus off

1786
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 3: the field issues, plus a catastrophic you know, change in

1787
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 3: the scenery of the very fabric of this building before

1788
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 3: it would even be considered. So no one more loss

1789
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 3: in the in the playoffs given, you know, and with

1790
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 3: even if it's a defensive collapse or whatever. Yeah, No,

1791
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 3: he's the head coach, not the defensive coordinator. You can

1792
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 3: hold him responsible for that, certainly, but he's you also

1793
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 3: got to hold him responsible for the ninety wins and

1794
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 3: the and the the ability to get an entire franchise

1795
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: from a seventeen year drought and a drought roster to

1796
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 3: the playoffs and then have them be right there every

1797
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: single year. You gotta give him credit for that too.

1798
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 3: There's none of the other new head coaches in the

1799
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 3: league are doing that this year.

1800
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 2: We gotta take a break here. Our number three gonna

1801
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: begin with our good friend Eric Wood as he gives

1802
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 2: you his insights on yesterday's game next year on One

1803
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1805
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Buffalo Football Monday. Chris Brown, Steve

1806
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Speaker 2: Tasker with you here on One Bill's Live and pleased

1807
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,800
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1808
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Speaker 3: The Radio Network.

1809
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:21,760
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Speaker 2: eats like a meal. All right, Eric, we know the

1815
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: expectations going into this season were high and fans I

1816
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,640
Speaker 2: think we're expecting the Bills to wipe the floor with

1817
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: the Saints. Most of us know that that really doesn't

1818
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: happen in the NFL all that often, and at the

1819
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's a twelve point win for Buffalo.

1820
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 2: What was your overarching takeaway from this victory to improve

1821
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 2: to four and h.

1822
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 16: Well, like you said, they came in Aos a heavy favorite,

1823
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 16: so you expect them to potentially run away with this one.

1824
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 16: But most games in the NFL are decided by one

1825
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 16: score or less. There's talent on every team, especially early

1826
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 16: in the season when teams are generally not ravaged by injury.

1827
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 16: There's still hope for this team in the Saints with

1828
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 16: a new head coach, a young quarterback and all of that,

1829
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,839
Speaker 16: and so you think maybe it's gonna be a blowout.

1830
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 16: The Bills do not play their best football, you know,

1831
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 16: sloppy on both sides of the ball at times, between

1832
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 16: the mistackles, the penalties, Josh throws a pick, Lucky did

1833
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 16: not throw a second pick on the next position as

1834
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 16: he gets hit in the pocket, and you still come

1835
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 16: away with a twelve point win. When I was playing

1836
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 16: for the Bills, if we didn't bring our best, we

1837
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 16: didn't get to win. And now they can have a

1838
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 16: double digit win when they still don't have their best stuff.

1839
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 16: But this Bills team is very and they can beat

1840
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 16: you in so many different ways, and this run game

1841
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 16: of the Bills is an absolute wagon right now. James

1842
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 16: Cook is playing as the best running back in all

1843
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 16: of football right now, and so you have him combined

1844
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 16: with maybe the best quarterback in the NFL to where

1845
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 16: you don't play your best football and you still put

1846
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 16: up thirty one points when it it wasn't aided by

1847
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 16: defense and special teams, terrible starting field position throughout, and

1848
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 16: you still get thirty one points and you get to win.

1849
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 16: This defense is having it struggles at times. We saw

1850
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 16: some third down struggles, especially earlier in the game yesterday.

1851
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 16: The rush defense continues to be an issue at times,

1852
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 16: especially with the miss tackles, But similar to last year

1853
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 16: where they lead the league in takeaways and they're opportunistic.

1854
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 16: We saw it again yesterday where they come up in

1855
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 16: big moments. And so I think this defense continues to

1856
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 16: get better as the season goes on. With the number

1857
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 16: of guys that are going to return to the lineup,

1858
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 16: whether coming back from injury or suspense, and the number

1859
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 16: of young and inexperienced guys they're catching reps right now

1860
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 16: and continuing to play better. I think that's side of

1861
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 16: the ball continues to get better as the season goes.

1862
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and certainly some of the most of the question

1863
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 3: marks center around the defense. You come in with a

1864
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 3: team that you're heavily favored over and they rush for

1865
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty nine yards on you. They kind

1866
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 3: of push your round up front. And this is a

1867
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 3: team that we talked about it before we came on.

1868
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 3: You look at this defense and you've got Milano's out ed,

1869
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 3: Oliver didn't play in this game. Maxwell Harrison, your number

1870
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 3: one pick, who you thought might contribute at least contribute,

1871
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 3: is not on the field. You've got two guys on

1872
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 3: suspension in Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogan. Joeby Hoyt is

1873
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 3: a guy that you really thought you were gonna plug

1874
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 3: in and play across from Joey Bosa. So you've got

1875
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 3: a lot of guys on the shelf, and it's easy

1876
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 3: to say, hey, it's gonna be great when they get

1877
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not, but you can for the way the

1878
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 3: league goes, you can foresee it easily a scenario where

1879
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 3: none of those five guys are on the field at

1880
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 3: the same time. Somebody gets hurt, somebody's in, somebody's out.

1881
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 3: You can't count on that, but there is hope at

1882
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel, particularly with the rest of

1883
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,759
Speaker 3: the young crew of the Bills starting to get valuable

1884
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 3: reps and starting to play better at all. Deon Walker, Yeah,

1885
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 3: Dion Walker, TJ.

1886
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 16: Sanders should continue to improve as the season goes on.

1887
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 16: Potentially Landon Jackson catches a uniple format sometime. Javon Sullivan,

1888
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 16: j Javon Sullivan is playing considerable reps right now, second

1889
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 16: year player, He'll continue to get better as the season

1890
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 16: goes on, you would assume, just based upon the track

1891
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 16: record of player development in this organization. So I think

1892
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 16: that defense continues to get better as the season goes on.

1893
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 16: Cole Bishup comes up with the great interception yesterday, game

1894
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 16: changing type play. He continues to play with more and

1895
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 16: more confidence, and him and Taylor Rapper getting more time

1896
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 16: on test together where the communication can improve the different

1897
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 16: looks the Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer rocking and rolling

1898
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 16: from the safety position. That becomes more of a factor

1899
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 16: when you get more time on task. So are there

1900
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 16: concerns about this defense right now? Yes, they're the worst

1901
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 16: rush defense in the entire NFL.

1902
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 7: That is an issue.

1903
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,759
Speaker 16: Third down defense down towards the bottom of the league.

1904
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 16: But when you look at what this defense could be

1905
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 16: by midyear, end of season and the continued development and

1906
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 16: upward trajectory, I think it can be a defense that

1907
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 16: can take you to a long playoff run.

1908
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 2: Just taking it one step further. On the defensive side

1909
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 2: of the ball, a lot of the stuff that we

1910
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 2: saw as problem areas gap assignments, tackling. These are all

1911
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 2: fundamentally correctible things. And we know this coaching staff pounds

1912
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 2: fundamentals not only at the beginning of the year, but

1913
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: all throughout the season. In the practice setting. They devote

1914
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: at least one day of the practice week to fundamentals

1915
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 2: where they rotate them through stations. We've seen it. Why

1916
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 2: for why does it remain an issue? Maybe just explain

1917
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 2: from player perspective, why that still crops up as an issue,

1918
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 2: Like even for a ten year veteran like Joey Bosa

1919
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: who bit too early on inside run fakes and was

1920
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: not setting the edge. I mean, that's a ten year

1921
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 2: veteran doing that multiple times in the same game. Somebody's

1922
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 2: got to explain that to fans as to why that

1923
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 2: still takes place in giving games.

1924
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 16: Well, I'll stay from a fundamental standpoint. And this is

1925
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 16: kind of rearing its head again where you take the

1926
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 16: training camp practices and you take those way down. You

1927
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 16: don't have two days anymore. You don't have padded practices

1928
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 16: throughout the week. You can only be on the field

1929
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 16: for two hours of practice. The reps are less and

1930
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 16: less each and every year, and now you're seeing fundamentals

1931
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 16: pop up. I mean, I'm not trying to you know

1932
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 16: back in our day, because in thieves day, the training

1933
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 16: camps were twice as bad as they were when I'm played,

1934
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 16: But you were likely even though you were maybe a

1935
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 16: little bit more dinged up, and you have more wear

1936
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 16: and tear on your body, more prepped for the early

1937
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 16: part of the season. You don't tackle in practice nowadays.

1938
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 16: You can't afford to get guys hurt. The player safety rules. Well,

1939
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 16: then you see tackling issues pop up early in the

1940
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 16: season for a number of teams. And then you know

1941
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 16: POSTBA losing Katain yesterday a couple times. Two of the

1942
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 16: times the Saints ran a really nice scheme and they

1943
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 16: put Alvin Kamara out. Initially, it signals the defense here

1944
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 16: comes a pass. It's the kind of half motion that

1945
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 16: we do with Todd Johnson and James Cook off and

1946
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 16: out of the backfield. Well, then they bring him back

1947
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 16: on an end around Post has got his hand in

1948
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 16: the dirt so he can't see him coming in motion,

1949
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 16: and they get the end.

1950
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 7: Around him twice. That's a good scheme.

1951
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 16: That's a great job by Kellen Moore scheming that up.

1952
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 16: The one later in the game where he went underneath

1953
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 16: the tackle and lost contain. That's a player trying to

1954
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,759
Speaker 16: make a play and although it stinks in the moment,

1955
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 16: that's what good players do. I mean, if you watch

1956
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 16: JJ Watt and back when he was going and a

1957
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,759
Speaker 16: number of these big time defensive linemen, they take chances

1958
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 16: and at time it works and they get sacks and TFLs,

1959
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 16: and then you at times have to live with the

1960
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 16: loss of Contained on a run play where he comes

1961
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 16: inside and Dorian Williams and Terrel Bernard are both in there,

1962
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 16: so you assume that that was Bosa's gap.

1963
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 7: On the outside of contained. At times you gotta take

1964
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 7: the good with the bad.

1965
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 16: But to answer your question, I think a lot of

1966
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 16: the fundamental stuffs comes early in the season from just

1967
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 16: the lack of time of playing in the preseason and

1968
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 16: a lack of time practicing in pads.

1969
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you get these games, particularly early in the season.

1970
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 3: Nin I've heard this from old guys like me, not

1971
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 3: young guys like you, but they can't understand why teams

1972
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 3: don't tackle well. And I got to remind the old guys,

1973
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 3: particularly the guys way back in my day, they're not

1974
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 3: allowed to tackle like that anymore. Right, half of the

1975
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 3: half of the techniques that the guys made a living

1976
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,520
Speaker 3: on and go to the Hall of Fame on is illegal.

1977
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean, the horse collars illegal, the hit the swivel

1978
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 3: is illegal, the hitting it high on the you know,

1979
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 3: leading with your helmet is illegal. It's you know, you

1980
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: got to play within the rules and get it done.

1981
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 3: And it's not that easy given the environment in the

1982
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 3: league right now. What I what I would like to

1983
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 3: ask from you, though, how's this offensive line last yesterday?

1984
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh is tough to sack. He gave up

1985
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 3: three sacks yesterday and it looked like it was really

1986
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 3: there was a real struggle in the first half. What

1987
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that?

1988
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 16: Yeah, so those tacks came in obvious pass rush situations.

1989
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 16: When we were talking before the game on the roundtable.

1990
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 16: You know, the Bills have done a great job of

1991
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 16: not sitting in a bunch of third and longs and

1992
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 16: obvious pass situations. You're also without Spencer Brown yesterday. And

1993
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 16: I think Ryan Vandermark is a starting caliber tackle in

1994
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 16: this league.

1995
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 3: I truly do.

1996
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 16: I think you could start for a number of franchises

1997
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 16: right now. But Spencer Brown is one of the best

1998
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 16: right tackles in football. So whether that was you know,

1999
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 16: at times giving him a little bit more help with

2000
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 16: which maybe you know, strings out in Osiris Torrents or

2001
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 16: David Edwards or whatever it may be, You've got in

2002
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 16: some situations where you're in obvious pass rush situations against

2003
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 16: the team whose strength defensively is likely their past rush

2004
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 16: with Jordan with Granerson, with uh the kid out of Clemson.

2005
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so.

2006
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 16: I'm not in panic mode over giving up those sacks,

2007
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 16: but you maybe realize we take how good these two

2008
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 16: tackles are at times. For granted, when you lose a

2009
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 16: Spencer Brown in a game, and then, just like any

2010
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 16: team in the league, you put yourself in some third

2011
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 16: and longs and obvious past situations, it becomes difficult on

2012
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 16: the guys up front, I don't care who you're playing,

2013
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 16: and so.

2014
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 7: As a concern moving forward, I don't see.

2015
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 16: This spills offensive line in the pass protection being a concern,

2016
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 16: even if vanderbark has to play multiple weeks.

2017
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: You touched on it earlier, and I think it's something

2018
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: that may move further under the microscope with each passing week.

2019
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: But Special Teams, the field position battle was lost. Now,

2020
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 2: that's not all their fault. Sometimes, you know, based on

2021
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 2: how successful the opposing offense is and how much they

2022
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 2: move it down the field says something about that. But

2023
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 2: in the first month of the season, we have seen

2024
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 2: this team change their punter. Yesterday they benched their primary

2025
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:42,000
Speaker 2: punt returner and they almost have they have another compromise

2026
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 2: in the middle of their punt protection and their punter

2027
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 2: gets you know, Barrel rolled again and is almost injured

2028
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 2: in a major, major way. And we'll find out more

2029
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 2: from coach McDermott later this afternoon on his status. But

2030
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 2: what do you make of Special teams right now? Because

2031
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us were under the impression

2032
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,759
Speaker 2: that with a veteran Special teams coach and Chris Taber,

2033
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 2: a lot more of these things would be buttoned up,

2034
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 2: and maybe that's unfair to expect him in the first

2035
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 2: three or four weeks of the season, but it's clear

2036
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:13,680
Speaker 2: even they see issues because they're making personnel changes here

2037
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: in the first four weeks of the season.

2038
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll say this.

2039
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 16: When you have a team that's, you know, the betting

2040
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 16: favorite to win the Super Bowl, like the Bills are,

2041
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 16: you'd hate to see special teams creep in and lose

2042
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 16: you some games, whether that be regular season playoffs. You know,

2043
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 16: what are they going to do at kicker when Tyler

2044
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 16: Bass is healthy enough? Do they stick with Prader? What's

2045
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 16: this punter situation going to be?

2046
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 2: Like?

2047
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 16: We were dangerously close to two blocked punts. Those both

2048
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 16: become penalties that extend drives. But you don't You're not

2049
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:50,639
Speaker 16: expecting those or one thing those types of plays to happen.

2050
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 16: You almost get the game winning field goal against the

2051
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 16: Ravens blocked, which these blocks are becoming more and more

2052
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 16: popular on these field goals. But you almost get that

2053
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 16: one blocked. Kyle Hamilton gets a barely a fingertip on it.

2054
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 16: It needs to be buttoned up.

2055
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 7: It's just it is what it is.

2056
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 16: We've seen special teams penalties this year that's either back

2057
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 16: them up or you know, the hands of the face yesterday,

2058
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 16: which gives the Saints better field position.

2059
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 7: It just all needs to be buttoned up.

2060
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 2: Now.

2061
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 16: You give some grace in the fact that they have

2062
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 16: to go pick up Raider. They've made a punter switch.

2063
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 16: You got guys kind of adjusting to Tabor system, and

2064
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 16: I expect it to be button up. I mean, we

2065
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 16: have an excellent special teams coach, we have a head

2066
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 16: coach that shows so much attention to detail. I expected

2067
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 16: to continue to improve as the season goes on. But

2068
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 16: it was interesting to me that Codrington was not out

2069
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 16: there for the returns yesterday, just based upon the fact

2070
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 16: that he's usualizing a roster spot to only be a returner,

2071
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 16: not to play cornerback, to be a returner. So if

2072
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 16: he's not going to be in uniform, it'll be interesting

2073
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 16: to see if he then sticks.

2074
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 7: On the roster.

2075
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it does seem to be a league wide

2076
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 3: issue as you see special teams all over the league

2077
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 3: coming back to the forefront of guys making a play

2078
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 3: to win games. I Philly did it again yesterday. Block

2079
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 3: punt touchdown, you see blockfield, blockfield goals, block extra points,

2080
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,600
Speaker 3: all over the league and the roughing the punters. H

2081
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 3: it's it's really catching some teams who don't make roster decisions.

2082
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 3: You saw Codrington yesterday. I mean Sean McDermot alluded to you, Listen,

2083
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 3: it's a roster thing. We want to see what it's

2084
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 3: like on our roster with different guys up for different things.

2085
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 3: You gotta short up. I mean, you can't let your

2086
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: wing on the field goal team slack. And you can't

2087
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 3: have an undersized linebacker playing tackle on field goal defense

2088
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 3: because somebody's gonna blow him over and get in. It's lee.

2089
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 3: It's not just the Bills, it's league wide, and I

2090
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 3: think slowly but surely over the years it kind of

2091
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 3: evolved away from big roster decisions about your special teams

2092
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 3: and being committed to it.

2093
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 8: And now.

2094
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 3: This new kickoff rule, and also with the field goal

2095
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 3: defense teams like they are, it has they have woken

2096
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 3: up to a problem in the rule where the rules

2097
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 3: have outpaced them in being able to keep up with

2098
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 3: their rosters. And Cadrey and I think that yesterday says

2099
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 3: a lot about where coaching staffs are around the league

2100
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 3: and their roster on specially, they're all looking at it

2101
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 3: differently because of these games and the way and the

2102
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 3: outcome that's being affected.

2103
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're exactly right.

2104
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 16: And you know, I think there has been bright spots

2105
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 16: on our special teams at times, the consistency Praders brought

2106
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 16: besides the one Shanky had against the Dolphins. I think

2107
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 16: Sam Franklin is an excellent special teams player for the Bills,

2108
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 16: like an impact player. He draws that holding penalty on

2109
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 16: the kickoff yesterday, which has the Saints start their drive

2110
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 16: at the ten yard line.

2111
01:52:58,200 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 7: I saw it as he goes down the.

2112
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 16: Field because my eyes are tracking him because he's an

2113
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 16: impact special teams player.

2114
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 7: So I'm with you.

2115
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 16: And with these new kickoff rules and everything else, it's

2116
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 16: an ever evolving deal to where Steve, you could probably

2117
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 16: speak into this more than me. Okay, well, why is

2118
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 16: fueld goal protection and issue nowadays? Well, I already mentioned

2119
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 16: the lack of padded blocking earlier. So you only have

2120
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 16: two hours to practice. How much time you spend it

2121
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 16: on that? Well, you also need so much attention to

2122
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 16: detail on your kickoff and kick return with these new rules,

2123
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 16: maybe that's overlooked a little bit because you only have

2124
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 16: so many hours in a week to prepare, and I'm

2125
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 16: assuming there's just some lack of attention to detail, not

2126
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 16: necessarily Bills, but league wide where you see four field

2127
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 16: goals blocked in one week last week.

2128
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for teams that are trying to come in

2129
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 2: here and beat the Bills, who are unbeaten now in

2130
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: fourteen consecutive home games, they're looking for any edge they

2131
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 2: can get. And maybe they don't see the edges on

2132
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 2: defense playing against that high powered offense with Cook and Allen.

2133
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't see a way to put enough points

2134
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 2: on the board offensively, even though this defense has some deficiencies.

2135
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: They're going to be fucking combing through special teams with

2136
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 2: a fine tooth comb to say, hey, maybe this is

2137
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Speaker 2: where we get an extra possession. And the Bills have

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Speaker 2: better be minding their p's and q's on that because

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Speaker 2: they're going to get victimized.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's going to be interesting to see how

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Speaker 3: if they don't want a guy to wait, I say, waste,

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Speaker 3: If they don't want to give Codrington a spot on

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Speaker 3: the roster because he's a good punt punt returner, because

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Speaker 3: they've got other issues. And I get at injuries and

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Speaker 3: you're thin someplace, and you got to. You gotta, you know,

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Speaker 3: you gotta. It's crunch time. But man, oh man, if

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Speaker 3: it's a philosophical decision to get a punt catcher back

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Speaker 3: there like Shakir and take a guy out who may

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Speaker 3: be a home run like Codrington, because you need a

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Speaker 3: heavier body up inside on your field goal defense, or

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Speaker 3: you need a bigger body at playing tackle on punt coverage,

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Speaker 3: or a faster guy. It's the ripple effects are really

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 3: a problem with the roster at forty seven guys on

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Speaker 3: game day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, and the.

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Speaker 16: Rip effect is real as far as special teams go.

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01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 16: You get a Matt Mulano injury, which then puts Dorian

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Speaker 16: Williams into the starting lineups, and now he's either on

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Speaker 16: all your special teams still, which is added reps, more

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Speaker 16: wear and tear on him throughout the game, or then

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Speaker 16: you replace him with someone else who's not the same

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Speaker 16: special teamer. You were talking about Roddrington not getting a

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Speaker 16: roster spot, and I was thinking back to like when

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Speaker 16: I first got to the Bills, that blew my mind.

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Speaker 16: We had four guys on the roster that only played

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Speaker 16: special teams. They rarely even did the show team for

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Speaker 16: offensive defense. They might fill in at times. But you

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Speaker 16: know what, John Wendling, he was a special team's ace,

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Speaker 16: and you had those guys like we had punt or

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Speaker 16: kickbox where John would go and hurdle the line. He

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Speaker 16: was essentially a track guy that was tough as nails,

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Speaker 16: and he dominated every special teams rep he was on,

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Speaker 16: and every team throughout the league had those.

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Speaker 7: Nowadays, with the.

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Speaker 16: New kickoff roles and all that, it went away from

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Speaker 16: it because you essentially had a touchback on every kickoff

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Speaker 16: and kick return. Those guys like a fam Franklin, those

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Speaker 16: types of guys are going to get more and more

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Speaker 16: popular again when you have these real kickoffs to kick

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Speaker 16: off returns.

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Speaker 2: It's swinging back that way for sure. Quickly before we

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Speaker 2: let you go, Eric Bill's Patriots. Patriots coming off a

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Speaker 2: monster victory over the Carolina Panthers, who maybe made people

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Speaker 2: think for a week that they might be turning the corner.

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Speaker 2: That's clearly not happening. They win thirty to nothing one

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Speaker 2: week and then drop a thirty point loss the following

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Speaker 2: week to the Patriots, who are finally they finally play

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Speaker 2: mistake free football and win a resound in a resounding

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Speaker 2: fashion over the Panthers. They're going to come in here feeling, hey,

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Speaker 2: if we just play sound, fundamental football, we're going to

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Speaker 2: be in this game, especially after probably watching Saints film

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Speaker 2: against the Bills. So what do you think about this

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Speaker 2: division matchup?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, coming into the season, you assume that the Patriots

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Speaker 16: would be, you know, the Bill's toughest test within the division.

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Speaker 7: And that's the way it looks like it's shaking out.

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Speaker 16: Drake May had some real highlight moments last year, assumed

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Speaker 16: that he was going to take a step into year two.

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Speaker 16: You got a new coaching staff with Rabel coming in,

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Speaker 16: and there's some optimism and to me, they still look

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Speaker 16: like that.

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Speaker 7: Now are they on the Bills level at this point? No,

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Speaker 7: But you have to play.

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Speaker 16: You have to play a good game, and you likely

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01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 16: have to make less mistakes than you made against the

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Speaker 16: Staints to you know, handle this team coming in. But

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Speaker 16: you know, I've liked what I've seen from some of

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Speaker 16: what the Patriots has done this year, and I'm a

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Speaker 16: fan of Drake May.

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Speaker 7: I think he plays the game the right way. He's tough.

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Speaker 16: You could tell the guys in the locker room respect

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01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 16: him the way he goes out and plays, and he

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01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 16: seems to be an ascending quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and with Vrabel at the helm, you know, they're

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01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 3: at least they're not going to beat themselves, right, and

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01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 3: the guys are gonna be out there going to execute

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01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: it a high light and that's one of the things

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01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 3: that allows less talented teams to beat good teams as

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Speaker 3: their level of execution. Drake, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are getting a little better and

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01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: a little better and a little better each and every week.

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Speaker 3: And it's yeah, this is a much better team than

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Speaker 3: the one they just faced yesterday. I think, yep, I agree.

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Speaker 16: And last year I took some criticism because I thought,

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Speaker 16: when I'm doing my rookie quarterback projections, who I would

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Speaker 16: have drafted first? I said Drake May I was saw

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Speaker 16: him play more often just with him being in the ACC.

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Speaker 7: I'm a little volum. I used to work for ESPN

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01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 7: and ACC Network. It didn't become that great of a

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Speaker 7: take when Jay and.

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Speaker 16: Daniels life it on fire last year, and you know

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01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 16: all that, it's starting to look like a little bit

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01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 16: better projection by me. Now that Drake May started off

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Speaker 16: a year two like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like a real it's a week to week league,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, and you're like a personnel executive. You're playing

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Speaker 2: the long game, right, Thanks very much, Eric. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time. We will see you tonight at your fundraising

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Speaker 2: event Flights and Bites, so we look forward to catching

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Speaker 2: up with you this evening.

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Speaker 7: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us as he does

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01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 2: after every Bill's game, and his appearances are brought to

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01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 2: you by Campbell's Chunky Soup. We take a break here

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01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 2: back with plenty more on a Buffalo victory Monday here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by to a lot of Help.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. L'sy.

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Speaker 17: I'll hey, man, that's a big time win at home.

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Speaker 17: Great freaking job man, Proud of you guys. Give yourself

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Speaker 17: a bout the class man. Listen, you got I'm serious, man,

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01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 17: you gotta celebrate it. I know we're better and we

2252
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 17: will be better.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 18: It's a great reminder that we have work to do.

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Speaker 18: We gotta stay humble every week. But you have to

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Speaker 18: celebrate these wins because they are hard to come by.

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Speaker 18: They're hard to come by man, and we figured a

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Speaker 18: way to win. And that's the important piece. Offense, defense,

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Speaker 18: special teams. At the end of the day. In the

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Speaker 18: second half, we started playing together. Not in the first

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Speaker 18: half as much, but in the second half we started

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Speaker 18: playing together. And you see how hard you are to beat.

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Speaker 18: Let's celebrate a couple of things. Number One, you're freaking

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Speaker 18: will to win, man, it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Bree Child, Josh.

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Speaker 18: Cohl Bishop first NFL under.

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Speaker 3: You know we got.

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Speaker 5: You, We got.

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Speaker 3: Get a game ball right here.

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Speaker 18: We got a big time celebration piece. Jimbo James Cook,

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Speaker 18: hang on, hang on, hang on, broken Bill's all time record.

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Speaker 11: Great job.

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Speaker 18: Appreciate y'all, hold on tight hands all those that block

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Speaker 18: from great job. Also all right, hey, it's a great

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Speaker 18: win man, one o'clock win, right, beautiful day in Western

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Speaker 18: New York. It doesn't get any better than this, man,

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Speaker 18: Stay humble, de.

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Speaker 3: Find ways to win.

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Speaker 2: All right. That's the postgame locker room. As James Cook

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Speaker 2: was asked to give a speech, and he was waving

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Speaker 2: him off just like he does when he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to be subed out of a game, and then just said,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you all, and that was it. It's kind of

2284
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 2: like his Words of the Week that they do on

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Speaker 2: the inspiration inspirational message of the week, it's often three

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Speaker 2: words or less. It's kind of like, uh yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like all the steven Sigall movies that were

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Speaker 2: three words or less. Hard to Kill, Above the Law,

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Speaker 2: there's never more than three words. We got to get

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Speaker 2: back to the phones though, at eight o three five

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty for your biggest

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Speaker 2: takeaways from yesterday's victory over the Saints, and someone that's

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Speaker 2: been waiting patiently, Bob and Hamburg is next. What's up? Bob?

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Speaker 19: Hey iasually think you talked to about the last segment

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Speaker 19: with Eric, but I have much more concern over special

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Speaker 19: teams than I do burten into the defense. If you

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Speaker 19: look at the defense, it seems like it's a high

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Speaker 19: variance environment where they're going to get turnovers and ben

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Speaker 19: don't break. We've seen this for the better part of

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Speaker 19: two years now. But if you factor in that the

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Speaker 19: kick at the end of the Ravens game arguably should

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Speaker 19: have been blocked. You've had two punters go out, one

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Speaker 19: for performance and then one for an injury, and then

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Speaker 19: two consecutive roughing the punter calls that are far too

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Speaker 19: close to comfort. The difference between good and great can

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Speaker 19: be New England coming in here and blocking a punt

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Speaker 19: next week and walking out with a touchdown as a result,

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Speaker 19: that they could swing the game. That concerns me far

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Speaker 19: more than what I know that I can reasonably expect

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Speaker 19: from this. And I understand that we have a new coordinator,

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Speaker 19: but I don't have a lot of confidence in this

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Speaker 19: guy's the coordinator because he spent the entire year out

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Speaker 19: of the game last year, and he when he came

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Speaker 19: into trading camp, he talked about I let up on

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Speaker 19: the new kickoff rules. I studied the game. I studied

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Speaker 19: the rules. Well, there are two consequences of a kickoff, right.

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Speaker 19: If it goes into the end zone and it's a

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Speaker 19: touch back, it's the thirty five yard line. If it's

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Speaker 19: fall short of the landing zone or it goes out

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Speaker 19: of bounds, it's the forty yard line. A lot of

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Speaker 19: these teams are trying these knuckle kicks to where if

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Speaker 19: it lands somewhere within the twenty, the average starting position

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Speaker 19: field position is short of the thirty yard line. Would

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Speaker 19: you rather not knowing that the difference between the thirty

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Speaker 19: five and forty in terms of incremental probability to score

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Speaker 19: a touchdown is between five and seven percent. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 19: you just take the chance to knuckle kick it every time,

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Speaker 19: knowing that the consequence is not going to be that great.

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Speaker 19: And I'm also kind of frustrated when I hear that

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Speaker 19: we can't play third round picks because they don't play

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Speaker 19: special teams. How could they be incrementally worse in most

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Speaker 19: situations when they're playing five to eight plays a game,

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Speaker 19: and of the five to eight plays of the game,

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Speaker 19: two of them have variances to where we could reasonably

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Speaker 19: be blown up at any time. I have much more

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Speaker 19: concerned about special teams, and that's all I've got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Bob, thanks for bringing off some numbers too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've seen some teams try to execute the knuckle kick,

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Speaker 2: and it's easier said than done. I know Tyler Bass

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Speaker 2: before his injury, was working all summer on one, and

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Speaker 2: unfortunately he's on IR. Whether Matt Prater worked on one

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, I can't speak to that.

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Speaker 2: And proof that it's difficult to execute. Look no further

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Speaker 2: than yesterday's game, Blake Groupie tries a line drive kick

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Speaker 2: to give an awkward bounce to the return men to

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Speaker 2: have to field and try to scramble around and pick up,

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Speaker 2: believing it will reduce their return yardage, can't reach the

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Speaker 2: landing zone and they get it at the forty. And

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Speaker 2: I know you're telling me that there isn't a tremendous difference,

2350
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 2: but you know, the Bills get that possession at their

2351
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 2: own forty yard line. It's their last touchdown drive. I mean,

2352
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 2: say what you want, but when you only got to

2353
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:21,440
Speaker 2: go sixty yards, your percentage goes up that you're going

2354
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:21,840
Speaker 2: to score.

2355
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 3: Well, you only have to go you know, twenty to

2356
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 3: be in field goal range.

2357
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:31,680
Speaker 2: Right, So, and I think I think the other thing

2358
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 2: that you're misapplying here is you're comparing the thirty five

2359
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 2: to the forty. No one wants to put it in

2360
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 2: the end zone anymore because it's the thirty five. So

2361
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,720
Speaker 2: your insinuation that everybody should be doing the knuckle kick.

2362
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 2: I think if everybody could expertly execute the knuckle kick

2363
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 2: and get it to bounce awkwardly for returners and reduce

2364
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 2: the return rate and yardage, everybody would be doing it.

2365
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 2: I think because we're not seeing that, it's an indication

2366
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 2: that it's a harder thing to pull off, then you

2367
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 2: might think, because you not only have to get a knuckling,

2368
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 2: wobbling trajectory of the ball, you also have to have

2369
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 2: it clear the returners and still land in the landing

2370
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 2: zone without the fear of it bouncing sideways and over

2371
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 2: the sideline or deep enough where you know they let

2372
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 2: it go into the end zone and say we'll just

2373
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 2: take it at the twenty. So to apply the difference

2374
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: between the thirty five and the forty, I think is

2375
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:26,959
Speaker 2: a little misguided.

2376
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I get it too, and I don't have

2377
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 3: a problem with the hot kick. It's hard to feel

2378
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 3: those back there. And if you can hit a hot

2379
02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 3: line drive and it hits the ground, all bets are

2380
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 3: off as to whether it and once it hits the ground,

2381
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 3: the coverage team's released. You don't have to wait for

2382
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,080
Speaker 3: a guy to handle the kick. Once it hits the ground,

2383
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 3: they're released. So if you can hit a hot line

2384
02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 3: drive down there and particularly skitter it through the end zone,

2385
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:55,560
Speaker 3: you get them back at the twenty. That's a big plus.

2386
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 3: So I get it. That's very good. The problem is

2387
02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 3: if you hit that hot line and they feel and

2388
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 3: it lands short of the twenty, you get out of

2389
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 3: the forty. If it lands in the in the landing

2390
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,600
Speaker 3: zone and the guy catches it on a one hopper,

2391
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 3: then you got big. Then you've got problems.

2392
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 2: That's what Curtis Samuel did yesterday. He expertly fielded one

2393
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 2: of those off of hop.

2394
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's a hard kick to execute, no question

2395
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 3: about it. They it was brought in. They the landing

2396
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 3: zone is now a thing in the vernacular of the

2397
02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 3: NFL because of the problem that a bouncing ball presents

2398
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:38,000
Speaker 3: to the team trying to pick it up right.

2399
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 2: It's a problem, and I think there are some submerge

2400
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 2: units and coaches that would say, well, I don't want

2401
02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:46,200
Speaker 2: to kick one of those balls because I don't know

2402
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:48,080
Speaker 2: where it's going to go, and that leaves my coverage

2403
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:50,800
Speaker 2: team vulnerable now because we might have a right right

2404
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,080
Speaker 2: coverage play up because we want to kick it to

2405
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 2: the right side and then all of a sudden, it

2406
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 2: takes a wacky bounce, goes to the other side of

2407
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,120
Speaker 2: the field and we're not in position to defend it.

2408
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 3: Well. Plus they also say let's and you can't, well,

2409
02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 3: I guess you try. It's a hard kick to execute.

2410
02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 3: Now think about this. I want you to squib this

2411
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 3: hot down there like we've been doing, but I want

2412
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 3: you to do it to the left side of the field. Now,

2413
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 3: the thing you're getting close to going out of bounds,

2414
02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 3: which is a huge problem, right, So it's hard. You

2415
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 3: got to hit it down the middle to keep it

2416
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,680
Speaker 3: from going out of bounds because as soon as you don't,

2417
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 3: it will as soon as you don't want it to

2418
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 3: do it will. You gotta kick it down the middle,

2419
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 3: give yourself a chance to keep it in play, and

2420
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 3: that gives the return team a little bit of an

2421
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 3: advantage because now they can go left, right, or center.

2422
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 3: You saw the opening kickoff last yesterday. The Saints kicked

2423
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:46,160
Speaker 3: it far and if they're kicking off to their right,

2424
02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 3: way over in the corner to the right, and they

2425
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 3: they got the Bills good on that because the Bills

2426
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 3: had a left return on Now whether they had a

2427
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 3: key that allowed them to look at the lineup of

2428
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 3: the Bill's return team and say, I think they're returning

2429
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 3: it to the left, so we're we're gonna kick it

2430
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 3: to the right or whatever. They got lucky on that

2431
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:07,080
Speaker 3: play and it was a problem. So there's all of

2432
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 3: that going on. So yeah, you're you're believe me the

2433
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 3: numbers you recited to me, and I couldn't follow all

2434
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:15,840
Speaker 3: of them. I apologize. The Bill's coaching staff in the

2435
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 3: analytics department got a got ten times more numbers than that.

2436
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 3: And it comes down to this. It comes down to

2437
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 3: the guys making the kick and catching the ball. It

2438
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 3: comes down to the guys covering it. It comes down

2439
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 3: to what they think their guys can get done. They're

2440
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 3: not gonna ask them to do something they don't know

2441
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 3: that they can do almost all the time. And that's

2442
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end of the story.

2443
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill in Connecticut before the break here,

2444
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 2: what's uphill?

2445
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. Got an observation

2446
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 20: and two quick questions. Observation would be as much as

2447
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 20: I've enjoyed Josh stiff arming five hundred pounds worth of

2448
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,760
Speaker 20: defenceman seeing him break the ankles on a defender yesterday.

2449
02:09:58,240 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 20: That's top drawer stuff right there.

2450
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 19: So I like that.

2451
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 20: The two questions would be I heard Eric talk about

2452
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 20: Joey Bosa losing contain. Are the Bills supposed to be

2453
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,200
Speaker 20: having someone help him over there so he can just

2454
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 20: pin his ears back or are people just using his

2455
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 20: strength against him? That's one question, and then the other

2456
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 20: question would be on special teams, how worried are you

2457
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,880
Speaker 20: about our ability to protect our punter and our kicker.

2458
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:28,200
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the call, go Bill, Sure thing.

2459
02:10:28,280 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 12: Bill.

2460
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 2: I'll let Steve handle the kicking thing. I'll just say

2461
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 2: real quick about Bosa that essentially Bosa does not have

2462
02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: help in the instances that you're referring to. It's his

2463
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 2: job to set the edge there and force everything back

2464
02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 2: inside where he does have help now, being the accomplished

2465
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 2: player that he is, and a lot of these great

2466
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 2: players do this. They try to find an edge somewhere,

2467
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 2: They try to cheat somewhere. And he tried to cheat

2468
02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:53,520
Speaker 2: a half a step inside and got burned on it

2469
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 2: a couple of times, as Eric explained, a couple of

2470
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 2: times they just caught him with a good scheme. But

2471
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 2: there was another time where he tried to cheat inside

2472
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 2: to be a factor on an inside run and they

2473
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:05,280
Speaker 2: busted it outside on him. Was a problem.

2474
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:07,760
Speaker 3: And as far as the punters, I mean, they're getting

2475
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 3: rough but they're getting the punt off. So if they're

2476
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 3: gonna rough the guy, there's nothing you can do anyway.

2477
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:15,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you can protect him all you want, but

2478
02:11:15,480 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 3: if somebody wants to go in there and try and

2479
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 3: block a punt that they have no business block. And

2480
02:11:19,800 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 3: that's what happened in the Miami game. Sealer came through.

2481
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 3: He was not gonna get that punt. He's but he's

2482
02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. He rushes was in a tie game.

2483
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 2: He made it worse.

2484
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 3: He's rushing punts like for the third time in his

2485
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 3: entire life. Right, So, because they left their defense on

2486
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 3: the field, hope making sure the Bills weren't gonna run

2487
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 3: a fake, so they keep their regular defensive personnel on

2488
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 3: the field, Sealer comes through and he had no business

2489
02:11:45,640 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 3: getting in there like that. It is a bad play

2490
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 3: on his part. So you can't protect your player against

2491
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:51,880
Speaker 3: the other team making an idiot play or a bad

2492
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 3: play or a play that's too aggressive, which is a

2493
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 3: little bit of what happened yesterday in the Saints game. Now,

2494
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 3: they might have had a block on but you've got

2495
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 3: it's the responsibility the guys rushing the punter not to

2496
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 3: rough him. Yes, it is. It's always a concern. Job

2497
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 3: one on any special teams team building is punt protection,

2498
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 3: field goal protection. You don't start with the return game.

2499
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 3: You start with punt protection and kick protection. If you

2500
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,080
Speaker 3: can't get a punt off and you can't get a

2501
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:29,440
Speaker 3: kick off for points, you're dead.

2502
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:30,640
Speaker 7: So that is.

2503
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:34,240
Speaker 3: Always priority number one for any special teams coordinator in

2504
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 3: the NFL. You got to protect the punter and you

2505
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 3: got to protect the kicker on field goals and extra points.

2506
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 3: That's where it all starts. That's the first meeting of

2507
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 3: every training camp. Special teams thing is punt protection. So

2508
02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 3: your guys better know what they're doing, and they better

2509
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 3: have been run through it enough times and seeing enough

2510
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 3: things on film to be ready for it. And once

2511
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 3: again comes down to having the right guys in the

2512
02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 3: right spots and ask him to do what they can do.

2513
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 2: Break time for us. We wrap it up next here

2514
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:15,680
Speaker 2: on a Buffalo victory Monday on One Bill's Live. All right,

2515
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:19,640
Speaker 2: so we will probably find out about punter Cameron Johnson's

2516
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 2: injury status later this afternoon. Sean McDermott said to address

2517
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 2: the media in about an hour and he'll have an

2518
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 2: update on that bad news for the Ravens keeps getting worse.

2519
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 2: Nom Dii Manabike, who was already put on IR is

2520
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 2: out for the season with his neck injury. That is

2521
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:38,040
Speaker 2: a costly loss for the Ravens defense. Marlon Humphrey with

2522
02:13:38,120 --> 02:13:40,520
Speaker 2: a calf injury, only expected to miss a couple of weeks.

2523
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 2: And Lamar Jackson who left the game against the Chiefs

2524
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 2: yesterday with a hamstring injury. John Harbaughs said that was

2525
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,240
Speaker 2: not because of the score on the board. He was

2526
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,760
Speaker 2: unable to continue. So their all eyes will be on

2527
02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson this week to see if he can play

2528
02:13:56,200 --> 02:13:59,360
Speaker 2: against the Texans at home in Baltimore in Week five.

2529
02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's uh, that's a lot.

2530
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:02,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2531
02:14:04,280 --> 02:14:06,400
Speaker 2: And they have other guys dinged up too. I mean

2532
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:10,040
Speaker 2: the other corner Wiggins is out, Rokwan Smith, the middle linebacker,

2533
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 2: they're left tackle Ronnie Stanley. Who knows who's gonna play

2534
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 2: for the Ravens this week. I'm gonna look like a

2535
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:14,160
Speaker 2: mash unit.

2536
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:15,440
Speaker 3: I'd rather have the Bills problems.

2537
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, amen to that. Uh, but our best to Cameron Johnson.

2538
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:22,440
Speaker 2: Hope he's okay, But coach McDermot will update you. Big

2539
02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:26,840
Speaker 2: show coming your way. Tomorrow got Mitch Morrise, Maddie glab Our,

2540
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,680
Speaker 2: good friend Dan Orlovsky to break down this past game

2541
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 2: and look ahead to Patriots. And we'll also have Steve

2542
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:38,320
Speaker 2: the latest edition of the Tuesday Tailgate tag along. You're

2543
02:14:38,360 --> 02:14:40,440
Speaker 2: gonna love it, don't miss Tomorrow Show. We'll see it

2544
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 2: one