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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kaylie Shore and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say it out of you. Okay, So but this December,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing a very special like series

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Speaker 1: on too Much to Say and um it's going to

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Speaker 1: be called to Crime Christmas. So this is the first

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Speaker 1: episode of that, and I wanted to share some stories

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Speaker 1: that I've found especially intriguing in the true crime world

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Speaker 1: through the lens of my investigative brain, which you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not like a massive true crime fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it's it's interesting, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of media to consume about it. But there's this episode

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Speaker 1: of South Park where they refer to murder porn, which

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Speaker 1: is like all these like housewives sitting at home watching

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Speaker 1: these horribly grizzly shows about these awful murders, and I

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Speaker 1: don't really like stuff like that, Like I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear about how somebody like brutal we Um sexually

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Speaker 1: true crime about that. It's um upsetting and I just

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Speaker 1: don't And I especially don't want to watch like made

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Speaker 1: there's enough of this ship in the world. Why makeup

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Speaker 1: a pedophile like for entertainment? That just feels weird. And

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Speaker 1: when it comes to stuff like mass shootings and all

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Speaker 1: of that, I think there's so much emphasis put on

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Speaker 1: the person who did the shooting, like the murderer, And

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Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit about him, you know,

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Speaker 1: they deserve to go down in history. Isn't that kind

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Speaker 1: don't like true crime of that nature. But there's some

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Speaker 1: especially interesting stories that I've found while I've been on

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Speaker 1: podcasts that I found interesting, and I wanted to share

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Speaker 1: and it is a fascinating story with so many twists

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Speaker 1: to sort of find out what happens, so it's like

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Speaker 1: a movie in real time. First of all, I want

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Speaker 1: to shout out Mandy Matteney from FITS News. She is

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Speaker 1: All the Murdoch Murders. She's investigated it at length, um

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Speaker 1: I highly recommend checking that out because I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you a summary of these events. But when I

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Speaker 1: history of the Murdhawks and this is all UH based

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Speaker 1: their stories straight. He was saying things like, well, you know,

430
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: they don't need to know who was driving, You don't

431
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: have to say anything, blah blah blah blah. Um just crazy,

432
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: and like a security guard went on Um went on

433
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: record and said that like they overheard alec like whispering

434
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: weird things into the phone, like she's gone, don't worry,

435
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Like just clearly trying to fucking make like be collusive there.

436
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Um clusive a word, I think, so clearly trying to collude. Anyways,

437
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: So a week later, Mallory Beach's body is found, really

438
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: fucking sad um. Two months later, on what would have

439
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: been her twentieth birthday, Paul is arrested. He pleaded not guilt.

440
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: Team he pleaded not fucking guilty to three felony accounts

441
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: of voting under the influence, and um, he was awaiting

442
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: trial when this next part happened. Um, but he was

443
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: awaiting trial for almost two years. He got to just

444
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: go to college. You got to want to run around.

445
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what the bail situation was, but he

446
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: wasn't in jail. He just got to do whatever the

447
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: funk he wanted. And it was almost like it never happened,

448
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: and it was just sitting on some judge's desk and

449
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: they had no intention of ever pursuing these felony charges

450
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: he was awaiting. So it was just this weird and

451
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: definite like, oh yeah, we'll deal with this at some point,

452
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: even though somebody fucking died. Um, it ends up getting

453
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: really messy because they sort of Elec and and the

454
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: Murdoch family ended up trying to sort of pin it

455
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: on Connor Cook and say that he was driving, and

456
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: he was driving for a very brief period of time,

457
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: but he still was more sober than Paul and was

458
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: trying to take the wheel to keep everybody safe. Um,

459
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: but he was not driving when everybody died, or when

460
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: Mallory died and everybody was injured. Um, So Connor Cook

461
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: ended up filing a lawsuit for investigation into collusion and

462
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: civil conspiracy after he was blamed as the driver, and um,

463
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: Mallory Beaches family went after the Murdocks, and in addition

464
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Speaker 1: to the the charges that were, you know, the felony charges,

465
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: they also went after civil lawsuits and they sued Elec Murdoch,

466
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: Buster Murdoch, who I'm assuming had provided alcohol for the

467
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: teenagers at some point, and m Parker's Convenience Store, which

468
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: was just a commediant store that sold them alcohol with

469
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: their fake ideas. So, um, we're gonna get into this

470
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: next and final part, but I mean, tell me this

471
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: stuff isn't bat ship fucking crazy. Right, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kaylie Shore and this is too much

473
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: to say. We are back with the final part of

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00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: the Murdoch murders for True Crime Christmas. Um, this is

475
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: where everything goes from. Just like, oh, an accident or

476
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: was Steven Smith add you have anything to do with this?

477
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Was it just a hit and run? Where these all

478
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: just like bizarre accidents that happened. Was Paul just a

479
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: drunk asshole and something horrible happened? Um to just like,

480
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: what the funk is up with this ship? So in June,

481
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: so really not even not even six months ago, um,

482
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Maggie and Paul Murdoch are found dead in their hunting lodge, um,

483
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: next to their dog kennels. They were killed with a

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: semi automatic assault rifle and a shotgun, respectively. So I

485
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know what importance that has, but it does feel

486
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: odd that they were killed with two different weapons, where

487
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: they're two different murderers. Why were two different weapons used?

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00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Why would you kill somebody with a shotgun and someone

489
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: with an assault rifle? I mean, you just you don't

490
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: need an assault rifle to kill one person like that's

491
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: so many bullets. It's just it's just weird. Um. And uh,

492
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: Maggie seemed like a really lovely person. UM. Rumor has it.

493
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: This has not been confirmed, but UM many rumors have it.

494
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: That's six weeks before the murders, Maggie had met with

495
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: a divorce attorney. So that feels like an important fact

496
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: to put in here. UM. There more like Elik was

497
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: the one to find their bodies, and he called and

498
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: he was freaking out, and you know, like they've been

499
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: shot badly. People get there immediately, they're pronounced dead at

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: the scene. UM. So Duffy Stone, who was the person

501
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: who had replaced the Murdoch's um back in two thousand

502
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: five as the fourteenth Circuit Solicitor, so the first Murdoch

503
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: to not hold the position a hundred years, He ended

504
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: up procusing himself from the investigation in August, so two

505
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: months after they passed away, because of how close he

506
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: was to the case. And Elik Murdoch had been a

507
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: person of interest since day one in the murders. UM.

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00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: I personally don't know how likely that was. I think

509
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: that um there was some other enemies at play there,

510
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: but he was a person of interest, which is why

511
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Duffie Stone had to refuse himself. UM. This past September,

512
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: pmp D, the law firm that UM the Murdox worked

513
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: out and ran UM. They investigated Elik after finding a

514
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: very suspicious check on his desk. UM. A few days later,

515
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: he was asked to resign UM. The day after he's

516
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: asked to resign, he's shot in the head while changing

517
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: a tire and he UM calls the police says he's

518
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: been badly hurt and UM, somebody just randomly shot him

519
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: in a drive by while he was changing a tire

520
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: on the side of the road. It's apparently a very

521
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: superficial shotgun wound to the head, which I didn't believe

522
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: that those existed. But it was already suspicious because there

523
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: were people in the hospital who never saw the wound.

524
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: There were people in the hospital who never saw it.

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00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Like any sort of injury to him. UM, there would

526
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: have had to be one, but UM, you think, but

527
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: at this point, with sled and everything happening in Hampton County,

528
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: 're just like, well, maybe they're fucking wasn't because these

529
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: people are crazy and think that a gunshot wound is

530
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: a side mirror on a truck. So it quickly falls

531
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: apart because forensically none of it makes sense. Um, the

532
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: angle of what she shot at. I mean, people can

533
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: figure this out really quickly. And so it comes out

534
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: that UM, Curtis Smith, who is I believe very distantly

535
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: related to Steven Smith. UM, but he is related by

536
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: UM I think cousin wants removed or something like that.

537
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: Um to the Murdocks. And uh, he actually was the gunman.

538
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: And it turns out he was hired by Alec Murdoch

539
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: two stage a murder, stage of homicide. He was paid

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00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: for it, and UM it was say that Buster the

541
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: only other surviving member of the Murdoch nuclear family there UM,

542
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: so that he could get a ten million dollar insurance

543
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: policy from his dad. And it came to light as

544
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: well that Elik had been dealing with an OxyContin addiction

545
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: for about twenty years, which oxyconton is very expensive, and UM,

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Speaker 1: we're actually gonna get into that on one of the

547
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 1: other episodes of True Crime Christmas, just the whole thing

548
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: with the Sackler family. But oxyconton is very very expensive.

549
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people end up turning to

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00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: heroin because it is so much cheaper and you're you know,

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00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: drug dealers starting to have a harder time getting their

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00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: hands on oxy and whatnot. So what this seems to

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00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: me is that if a very wealthy man was addicted

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00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: to OxyContin um and um probituate perpetuates yes um, if

555
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: he was addicted to those for a long long period

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00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: of time, like twenty years, he would have been really

557
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: well acquainted with drug dealers. He probably and had to

558
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: use a bunch because oxy became harder and harder to

559
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: find during that time period as the government cracked down.

560
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: And so I just think he probably ended up at

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00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of some drug stuff. And I think

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00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: that he was both clamoring to keep money because he

563
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: knew that he had all these lawsuits coming. He knew

564
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: he'd still money from the company, and he was getting

565
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: really desperate to continue his um drug habits and also

566
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: to keep up with the mounting charges and suspicions around them.

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00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: The Glorious Sadderfield thing was supersusbitious. I mean, if you

568
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: add up everything that this guy could have lost, it

569
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: would I mean, we know that the he got five

570
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: million dollars or was going to get five million dollars

571
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: from the Glorious Sadderfield Um lawsuit that he got against himself,

572
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: which is still so weird. And we also know that

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00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: he'd stolen He'd end up stealing millions from pmp D,

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00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: so he had a lot of money issues. And so

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00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: money issues and drugs tend to drive people UM to

576
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: crime like that. But murder Murdoch has tried to have

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00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: the sadder field UM case dismissed. It's just not going

578
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: to happen. But UM into my point about this continually developing. UM,

579
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Speaker 1: I'd already started working on this episode and a week

580
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: ago he was indicted on two dozen financial crimes. So

581
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: all of this is still happening. I could have more

582
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: by next week. I mean, this is why UM, Mandy

583
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: Matni has an entire podcast on this because there's still

584
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: so much I've not been able to fit in this episode,

585
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: and this is obviously a very long episode of too

586
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: much to say, so I like, at this time, has

587
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: been indicted on more than two dozen financial crimes by

588
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: state grand jury UM with schemes to defraud victims of

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and thereafter launder nearly five million dollars in five different counties. UM.

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00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: It ended up being a total of twenty seven charges

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00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: against him. Uh. He had four counts of breach of

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00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: trust with fraudulent intent, seven counts of obtaining signature or

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00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: property by false pretenses, seven counts of money laundering, eight

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: counts of computer crimes, and one count of fortreat. The

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00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: majority of the indictments center on cases and victims not

596
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: previously known to the public, like a highway patrolman injured

597
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: in the line of duty, from whom prosecutors alleged Murdoch

598
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: stole settlement money for his own personal use for expenses,

599
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: including but not limited to, overdraft fees, cash and checks

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00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: written to associates. So that's all. That's a whole other victim. Um.

601
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: But the point was the highway patrolman who was injured

602
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: in the line of duty. It was not by Murdoch.

603
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: He was injured by you know, just anybody. And p

604
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: MP E D was doing the lawsuit, and so Murdoch

605
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: just kept some of the settlement money for himself, because

606
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you when a fucking law enforcement official is

607
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: injured on the job. Um, what an asshole? Right? I

608
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: mean taking money from like serious victims and you know,

609
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: Gloria's sons, and I mean all of them were people

610
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: who had actually gone through horrible things. I mean, Mallory

611
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Beaches family lost their nineteen year old daughter. They're never

612
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: gonna get to see her get married, They're never gonna

613
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: get to see her graduate college. Like, there's so many

614
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: legitimate victims here, and it's it's very it's very sad

615
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: that Maggie and Paul Murdoch were murdered as well in

616
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: such a terrible way. Um. I mean, even Mallory Beaches family,

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00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, extended their condolences to Paul because they were like, listen,

618
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: we know that, like Mallory died when he was at

619
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: the wheel, um, but we still didn't want him to

620
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: get murdered. So I think the Beach family they briefly

621
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: were under investigation for um having a role in Maggie

622
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: and Paul's murder, but um, they like they didn't. They

623
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: were completely cleared of all charges and all suspicions and

624
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: like they had absolutely nothing to do with their murder.

625
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: And it's been confirmed all of them had airtight um alibis,

626
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: all of them completely completely and immediately allowed questioning and

627
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, no, we we didn't do it. We'll

628
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: talk to you about anything, because we had nothing to

629
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: do with this so state attorneys alleged that Elec Murdoch

630
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: defrauded and laundered seven hundred and ninety two thousand dollars

631
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Speaker 1: in Bamberg County, a hundred and twenty five thousand dollars

632
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: in Orangeburg County, seventy thousand dollars in Colton County, which

633
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: is the county that um Stephen Smith was found um dead,

634
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: and and UH three and eighty three thousand dollars in

635
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Allendale County and three point four million in Beaufort County,

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00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and the multimillion dollars some in Bufort Counties related to

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00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the previously reported wrongful death settlement with the family of

638
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: the Murdoch's family housekeeper Gloria Sudderfield. UM, he's being held

639
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: with that bond. He has petitioned that They're like, no,

640
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Speaker 1: we're not letting you go. You literally tried to kill

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Speaker 1: yourself for insurance money. Clearly you have nothing to lose,

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Speaker 1: and we're just not gonna lay you out of our site.

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Speaker 1: So he's in solitary confinement under very um heavy surveillance,

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Speaker 1: and he's just he's not going anywhere um. And this

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00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: was the official statement by the sadder Field family after

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Speaker 1: addressing last week's indictments, and they said the sadder Field

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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: family is grateful to law enforcement for their continued efforts

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Speaker 1: in the investigation of the facts and circumstances surrounding the

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Speaker 1: death of Gloria Sadderfield and the egregious breaches of trust

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00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: and theft committed upon her son's The additional indictments brought

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00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: today in connection with the crimes committed against Gloria and

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Speaker 1: her sons, as well as apparently others, are welcome, long overdue,

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Speaker 1: and were appropriately brought um they continued in the statement.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Mr Murdoch is entitled to his presumption of

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Speaker 1: innocence and to his rights under the criminal process. For now, however,

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00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: it seems that the state wide grand jury was unimpressed

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00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: with his opioid defense and other explanations given as we

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00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: have been as always, we are stepped fastly in the

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Speaker 1: sadder Field corner and committed to seeing these matters to

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Speaker 1: the end. Ultimately, we will entrust a judge of jury

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Speaker 1: to let us know when the sadder Fields have received

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00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: their full cup of justice. Not Alec Murdoc or his attorneys.

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Speaker 1: I mean they trusted Alec and his attorneys one time

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Speaker 1: and lost almost five million dollars um. And also elec

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Speaker 1: is featuring or facing several lawsuits in civil court and

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Speaker 1: one is from PMP E D and a very very awful,

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00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: very sad um and he's been charged with insurance FROD,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy to commit insurance frond and finally false release reports.

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Speaker 1: So this man has so many charges up against him

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Speaker 1: and it's uh, very very bizarre. Um Alick has maintained

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Speaker 1: his innocence in Paul and Maggie's killings. I think that

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00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: drugs probably pay played a role in that, specifically drug

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00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: dealers Cardell's who knows clearly this man was in over

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Speaker 1: his fucking head and where was all that money going

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00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: because he was making so much And that's what is

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Speaker 1: the biggest mystery. Here's why why were these people being killed?

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Speaker 1: Why did they need Why did he need so much

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Speaker 1: more so much money if he already had so much money,

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00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: like you have to get in deep financial ship as

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Speaker 1: a millionaire to need to start laundering millions more dollars

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00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: because millions of dollars don't just disappear. And I even

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00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: think that that's a lot of money to expect um

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Speaker 1: to have just gone to OPO it's as well, like

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00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: there had to be some other stuff. Maybe it was gambling,

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Speaker 1: maybe it was I mean, who fucking knows. It's really

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Speaker 1: really sad. There's been so many victims, and I hope

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Speaker 1: I did this like episode well with respecting the victims

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Speaker 1: and their families, because that's another thing about true crime

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Speaker 1: that bothers me is a lot of times it seems

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Speaker 1: like stuff is so sensationalized that there's no empathy or

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Speaker 1: respect for the victims or their families. I mean, I

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00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: think a lot of stuff with Gabby Petito got um

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Speaker 1: people cross boundaries and lines and and all of that,

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Speaker 1: And I just hope I did this justice. Um. I

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Speaker 1: really really recommend checking out the Murdoch Murdoch The Murdak

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Speaker 1: Murders podcast by Mandy Mattenee. She does an incredible job

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot more thorough than I am. She

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00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: also her research is extensive. Anna. If I made any

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Speaker 1: factual um errors, then I'm very sorry, um, and they

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Speaker 1: probably should have given this disclosure at the beginning. Just

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Speaker 1: nobody sues me. But there may have been factual errors

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Speaker 1: given the fact that I am simply I want to

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Speaker 1: be investigative journalists, but highly recommend looking to Mattnie for

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Speaker 1: the facts. Um, she's great, and but I do think,

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Speaker 1: I do think I did it all right. I just

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Speaker 1: want to. I just I'm like, maybe I can get

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Speaker 1: sued for this. I don't know. So thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. UM, I will keep you posted

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Speaker 1: if there's any crazy updates in this, but um, it

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Speaker 1: is one of the most bizarre true crime things I've

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Speaker 1: seen happen, and it's happening in real time. So uh

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Speaker 1: join me next week for part two of True Crime Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening. I'm Kaylie Shure

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Speaker 1: and this is too much to say out of you. Yeah,