1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Today is June third, and this is Big Fish, Small Pod. 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Werdahl, and I'm here with you on Friday, 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: and I touched on it a bit on Wednesday. Today 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: I am going to harp on it that the Marlins 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: have not been approaching baseball from a place of plenty. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: The Advocates for Minor Leagues released that the Marlins are 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: one of just a few teams that do not pay 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: for extended spring training and also do not provide individual 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: rooms to their players at every minor league affiliate. That 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: does come as something of like an organizational demerit. But 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I do think we're seeing its impact here on the field. 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: So I want to talk more about that with you 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: today some substance for it. Assistant general manager Dan Greeley 14 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: spoke on the Swings and Misses this week about the 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: state of the Marlins, and he did offer some insight 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 1: into the front office. He does represent your more saber 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: oriented guy. He even name dropped Tom Tango's book. Oh 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: he didn't name drop it. He name dropped Tom Tango 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 1: as having written a book, which he did. The book 20 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: play in the percentages in baseball. It's hugely influential with 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: regards to your lineup optimization, your like decision making based 22 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: on the numbers. It's all written out in quote the book. 23 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: So he talked about that, ever so slightly. Over All, 24 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: he put forward the feeling that the Marlins team is 25 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: talented at a major league standard, certainly worth watching, and 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: that they are still in the race because of that talent. 27 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Basically the reason being that like things like you're like 28 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: made in the book, that like you're running in runners 29 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: and scoring position averages will even out over the course 30 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: of the year, and your run differential like that does 31 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: tend to even out. But I find myself that that 32 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: all reduces it too much to the odds, so to speak. 33 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: But totally just from the perspective of what Dan Greeley 34 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: has in his database and what Kim Ang can do 35 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: with her roster, what has been presented to the Marlins 36 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: about the team as it is today, there really might 37 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: not be a sort of player personnel transaction that they 38 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: could make that would substantially help the team, being like 39 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: a prospect promotion. There are a few pictures and a 40 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: few hitters that you could certainly make an argument for, 41 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: but it's rather unclear whether or not they would actually 42 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: be an upgrade rookies adjusting to the majors and all 43 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: of that. And I'm also not quite on board with 44 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Tom Tango's assessment of clutch hitting. To my eyes, it 45 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: seems to be either a matter of high performance or 46 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: of consistency at the plate, both really contingent on the 47 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: athlete themselves getting the most out of themselves physically and mentally. 48 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: In the past, I've talked about how a hitter's swink 49 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: is a fully involved motion. Ideally, a player is pulling 50 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: strength from both sides of their body and crossing it 51 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: over with the bat. It's an intense action and it 52 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: has to be done with a lot of precision, and 53 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: your body does pull force up from your lower body 54 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: and then pull and push the bat. It's really a 55 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: complete motion and an adjustment made. Daring it like a 56 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: mistakenly seeing a fastball when it is a changeup or 57 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a slider, can put a sort of like violent contortion 58 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: into that swing, putting different force into your joints or 59 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: towards your back. Sure, any Major leaguer can adjust and recover, 60 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: and toughness can even get you through the day to day, 61 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and toughness might even get you through that game better 62 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: at some sort of like heightened clutch moment, like how 63 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: a fastball up and it might make you more focused 64 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and like locked in at the plate, bringing that sort 65 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: of intensity and focus that really should just be with 66 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: you at the ballpark every day, or at least really 67 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: could be with you at the ballpark every time. No 68 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: one's saying you need a fastball up and end to 69 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: pay attention to the pitcher. But specifically, what we are 70 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: talking about is that these Marlins players are athletes. They're 71 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: bringing that sort of athletic trait of mental intensity and 72 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: focus and toughness. And as it has been really put 73 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: forward for the Marlins, it's that they don't quite offer 74 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: adequate facilities further athletes individual rooms for instance. I can 75 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: speak anecdotally not with regards to the Marlins organization, but 76 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I can certainly say that I've heard of minor leaguers 77 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: living on air mattresses in living rooms or without kitchens. 78 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that we have a Marlins team and 79 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about their consistency at the plate there like 80 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: every day performance and ability to like hit with regularity 81 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: and with productivity and missing out on those like kind 82 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: of clutch moments that do ask maybe a bit more 83 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: from you as an athlete and require you to be 84 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: a bit more there in that moment as a player 85 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: could come back to those corners cut at the minor 86 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: league level, it really does stand out to me that 87 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, the one homegrown regular at the plate for Miami, 88 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: is having backspasms and he's twenty nine. Christian Yelich also 89 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: had a history of back issues, as told by Andy 90 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: Haynes on MLB dot Com twenty twenty one. I remember 91 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: we played those three thirty am games in the minor 92 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: leagues that I detested as much as you could detest 93 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: anything in the world. Haines added, he did it in 94 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: one of those games in the outfield. I said, never again, 95 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: am I playing this guy in a ten thirty game. 96 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I told the minor league people, if we keep playing 97 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: these ten thirty games, Yelich is never playing again. So 98 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: it has followed him, and I know Christian is just 99 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: hungry for answers. It's pretty difficult for him to sit 100 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and watch. I know that he'll get some answers here, 101 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and if anybody can turn it around and get it 102 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: going in the right direction, you know he'll do it 103 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: because he's going to be relentless and how in how 104 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: he is. But yeah, it goes back. I think it 105 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: was his second or third year. It wasn't significant. It 106 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: was more like he had in the past. Here probably 107 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: a ten day or two week thing. To be a 108 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: top athlete, you want to be approaching your sport with 109 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: a thorough rigor that Christian Yelich might not have had 110 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: at the outset, And it might be because he didn't 111 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: have the ability to be quite that thorough despite the 112 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: fact that he was bringing with him a rigor. So 113 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: even at that early age, he needed exception from his 114 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: peers because his back was so prohibitive that it couldn't 115 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: be ready around the clock. And that's tough words when 116 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: you're attempting to sixteen success like except when ten thirty am. 117 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: It's not that the Marlins haven't made themselves in a 118 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: better position than ever since their time with Christian Yelich 119 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: in the farm system. And there's still a lot of 120 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: room to do, a lot more than any other team 121 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: is doing for their minor league players. If anything, in 122 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: such a competitive league, you'd like to be the one 123 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: to set the standard rather than lag in meeting it. 124 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's never too late to change, but it's 125 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: definitely too late if you're going to ignore it. So today, 126 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: as things sit, twenty one and twenty eight, Miami will 127 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: face San Francisco at six forty. The Marlins will be 128 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: bringing it behind Eliezer Hernandez as the team faces Alex 129 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: Cobb in Miami, and I think we all like the 130 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: feel of where it's at. For the podcast, I've been 131 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: andrew Ardahll hoping soon for a chiropractic adjustment. Talk to 132 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you later next week. Enjoy the series with the Giants