Speaker 1: To on the move gallan jeep steedless past Hell.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 3: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 4: He's joy my hands in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: What is up, Dolphans and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show, the
Speaker 2: Commandos are in town. We had a quick practice ahead
Speaker 2: of a day off, then game time on Saturday, we'll
Speaker 2: break down the on field action. We'll hear from coach
Speaker 2: from Toront Armstead, from Raheem Moster and Kendall Fuller who
Speaker 2: made a game winning pick if you will on Thursday.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is the Draft Time Podcast. Coy one and done
Speaker 2: joint practices to and not really a ton to go
Speaker 2: in on here as we have some competitive reps in
Speaker 2: the red zone, some full field move the ball periods,
Speaker 2: which is where you mark the ball where it's down
Speaker 2: and continue to drive from their opposed to resetting at
Speaker 2: the original line scrimmage, and then a two minute period
Speaker 2: to close practice and let's go ahead and get the
Speaker 2: overarching I guess result that we want to talk about
Speaker 2: here on the podcast, because we're not gonna harp on
Speaker 2: for thirty minutes here the negativity that we saw in
Speaker 2: the field today. But I'll just go ahead and tell
Speaker 2: you that the Commanders won the practice. They were the
Speaker 2: better team on the field today. Does that matter, No,
Speaker 2: not one iota. Some of you might disagree with that,
Speaker 2: but they played good and the Dolphins had some ups
Speaker 2: and downs, but overall, I think the decision does go
Speaker 2: to the Commanders. Just want to put that on the
Speaker 2: top of the podcast because I'm not going to sit
Speaker 2: here and continue to stress out and make you worry
Speaker 2: about a hobby endeavor. I can't say endeavor your endeavor
Speaker 2: because I had to go back and redo this an
Speaker 2: endeavor of yours that is for fun. I don't under
Speaker 2: stand the process of making you worry about something that
Speaker 2: is nothing to worry about, and that is how one
Speaker 2: particular training camp practice might deter or rather reshape your
Speaker 2: view of this football team. So just want to put
Speaker 2: it out there. I thought the Dolphins kind of lost
Speaker 2: the practice. But let's go through this whole thing, starting
Speaker 2: with the play of the day and the story of
Speaker 2: how we got there, and begin with what we saw
Speaker 2: from the Commanders on offense a red hot, red zone
Speaker 2: period where they kind of like that's kind where they
Speaker 2: won the day with Jadeen Daniels and the Commander's offense.
Speaker 2: I didn't see all the touchdowns I saw David Farna
Speaker 2: said there was five of them. I believe him. I
Speaker 2: don't think he has any reason to make that up.
Speaker 2: And David's a pretty solid dude, who doesn't, you know,
Speaker 2: do the whole engagement farming thing. So I trust him.
Speaker 2: But sometimes, you know, they stagger snaps and sometimes they
Speaker 2: happen simultaneously, and it was simultaneous consistently throughout the day,
Speaker 2: and with the offense operating literally right in front of me,
Speaker 2: like I was in line with the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: and it was on the field closest to me, where
Speaker 2: the defense was on the opposite goal line on the
Speaker 2: other field, literally one hundred and fifty yards away. So
Speaker 2: I saw results on some of the plays, but I
Speaker 2: have zero process or analysis, which to me, is completely useless.
Speaker 2: You'll never see me tweeting, you know, Jason Sanders is
Speaker 2: currently kicking field goals. I won't tweet that. It provides
Speaker 2: no value, And you don't need to read about that.
Speaker 2: But what I saw from Jade and Daniels was confidence,
Speaker 2: commanders a good variety of throws. You know, from my
Speaker 2: scouting perspective, he has more to do to get that
Speaker 2: Arizona State taste out of my mouth, if you will.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's unfair because he progressed into this player
Speaker 2: that had quite literally a perfect season last year at LSU,
Speaker 2: a clear runaway Heisman from like early November, he was
Speaker 2: the guy that was going to win that award. But
Speaker 2: then to see him today and with Michael Pennox last week,
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you can just kind of see it.
Speaker 2: And I'm still worried about the combination of Jaden Daniels's
Speaker 2: build and play style, but I came away really impressed
Speaker 2: with this game today. In particular, what he and Pennox
Speaker 2: both showed me was the rhythm with which they could
Speaker 2: play in the offense, which for a rookie is typically
Speaker 2: the difficult part. Now in training camp practices, Vanilla, maybe
Speaker 2: it looks better in there than it will in the game.
Speaker 2: Case in point, Scaler Thompson twenty twenty two preseason Couldn't
Speaker 2: Miss gets onto the field in the regular season, and
Speaker 2: the game speeds up and it's a completely different result.
Speaker 2: You're probably wondering, Travis, why the hell are you talking
Speaker 2: about the Washington Commanders kick off the podcast. I'm doing
Speaker 2: that because I wanted to get into this and tell
Speaker 2: you how a day can unfold because of what Kendall
Speaker 2: Fuller put on the field today on the tape today.
Speaker 2: But first, I think that Jaden Daniel's commentary is a
Speaker 2: perfect way to get into this question that I had
Speaker 2: for coach McDaniel before practice and a little peak behind
Speaker 2: the curtain here. I've been sitting on this question for
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks because I was unable to write
Speaker 2: it in a way that I thought made sense to
Speaker 2: ask coach. But today's presser was a little bit more
Speaker 2: relaxed than it usually is. There wasn't people climbing all
Speaker 2: over each other to get questions off, So like, all right,
Speaker 2: go ahead and fire it off here, and you can
Speaker 2: hear me at the start of the question start to say,
Speaker 2: or at the end of it, I should say, does
Speaker 2: that make sense? And before I can get past does that?
Speaker 2: Coach answers yes by giving me a great answer. But
Speaker 2: what I asked him was, how do you look at
Speaker 2: cutdown day with regards to the entire body of work
Speaker 2: from the new season, going back to Phase one in April,
Speaker 2: through OTAs, through June and into camp in July and
Speaker 2: even into August. Because and again here we go with
Speaker 2: the golf analogies, it's like when you're gonna go play
Speaker 2: around on Saturday and you're gonna hit balls at the
Speaker 2: range at various days throughout the week. You're not overly
Speaker 2: concerned with your bad range session or how your swing
Speaker 2: looked on a Tuesday. You just have to find a
Speaker 2: way to dial it in coome Saturday, right, because the
Speaker 2: score gets kept on Saturday, not on Tuesday. That's how
Speaker 2: I view camp with that frame of mind, where the
Speaker 2: games in September that's your Saturday. These practices on training
Speaker 2: camp are your Tuesday. So you know, I asked, coach,
Speaker 2: do you consider the reps that happened proverbly on that Tuesday, right,
Speaker 2: but in May and in April and June, even into
Speaker 2: July and training camp or is there sort of this
Speaker 2: arbitrary cutoff date where you bank all those reps and
Speaker 2: that was all about creating this final product of a
Speaker 2: player and then we project from there, or is that
Speaker 2: cutoff day earlier, where we have given you the tools.
Speaker 2: Now go show us for two weeks or whatever that
Speaker 2: number would be, what we have developed in you. And
Speaker 2: it's up to you now to put those all together
Speaker 2: to make a final product of a player. And Coach
Speaker 2: gave me this great answer.
Speaker 5: No, it makes sense. It is something that I think
Speaker 5: is only the only way I know how to you know,
Speaker 5: truly do right by the evaluation of all of our players,
Speaker 5: for not only the individual players, but for the organization,
Speaker 5: you know, collectively, having a ton of conversations and then
Speaker 5: what to me is the only way to approach it
Speaker 5: is investing every day in guy's story on the field
Speaker 5: and seeing how they adjust to turmoil, seeing where you
Speaker 5: know you want to be in front of that stuff,
Speaker 5: so you always have things to coach to see. If
Speaker 5: you know the pattern is that you're trending up, then
Speaker 5: you know, at the moment of truth, that trend probably
Speaker 5: speaks more than the exact player at that moment. You
Speaker 5: can you can, you can, justifiably with good reason, forecast
Speaker 5: you know the future by that trend, and if the
Speaker 5: trends inversed, you take that into account. I think all
Speaker 5: the things the main thing that I think people are
Speaker 5: players that have been here, you know, for this being
Speaker 5: their third year, have seen firsthand, and you know the
Speaker 5: players feel it during the course of camp. We we
Speaker 5: don't pretend to know the final answer. I think that's
Speaker 5: super important because you, I think you have to stay
Speaker 5: true to the you know, what is what is your
Speaker 5: primary importance or what is the the thing that is
Speaker 5: of primary importance. And to me, that is that players
Speaker 5: get to determine who should be on the team who
Speaker 5: by their actions and not by a predisposed like everybody
Speaker 5: wins if the Dolphins are their best version of themselves.
Speaker 5: So we just push that paying attention to everything and
Speaker 5: where guys are at is very important. And sometimes there's
Speaker 5: a caveat of assessing trends because you know, you're you've
Speaker 5: been along for the journey the whole time and can
Speaker 5: applausibly forecast.
Speaker 2: And I just think that's so instructive because well, let's
Speaker 2: name some examples. For instance, I came into this camp
Speaker 2: not entirely sure what we would get from Julian Hill.
Speaker 2: For instance, I thought Jody Fortson could could possibly unseat
Speaker 2: him in the Miami Tide end room. I thought Durham
Speaker 2: Smyth was a lock to be ahead of him and
Speaker 2: Johnny Smith clearly in that range from my pre camp perspective,
Speaker 2: and then what does Tanner Connor do? And since then
Speaker 2: I've learned that he took last year and built on
Speaker 2: that in every single way possible. So to me, I
Speaker 2: thought this could be a bubble roster guy, and now
Speaker 2: I see that I couldn't be more wrong, as this
Speaker 2: guy has a very clear, big role in the offense.
Speaker 2: And I hate to admit this, but Jason Matrie was
Speaker 2: a guy that maybe I subconsciously wrote off since he
Speaker 2: was a late ad to the UDFA crop and all
Speaker 2: he's done in camp is make plays and show me
Speaker 2: how dumb that thought, conscious or not was to possess.
Speaker 2: Hayden Rouchie was a guy that I didn't think had
Speaker 2: a chance because I thought he was slow on tape
Speaker 2: and had nothing to offer in the passing game, and
Speaker 2: given the depth of this tight end room, I was like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a chance. But then after watching him
Speaker 2: play in a game and some practices, Oh, he's an
Speaker 2: absolute butt kicker of a blocker, which was on tape,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know how easily for him that would translate.
Speaker 2: So early on in his NFL career, I thought Jack
Speaker 2: Drisko go off to a very slow start in training camp,
Speaker 2: to the point that I was like, that, ain't it.
Speaker 2: But now I'm not convinced he's not a top five
Speaker 2: offensive lineman on this team. Right now, I've seen Rob
Speaker 2: Jones progress and take the system, take to the system,
Speaker 2: I should say more and more, especially compared to years past.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all over the roster. And if you
Speaker 2: don't change your mind to new information, that stubbornness is
Speaker 2: the perfect recipe for complacency. And as we'll learn from
Speaker 2: Kay Adams on tomorrow's episode of Drive Time, you're either
Speaker 2: growing or dying. There is no keeping the status quo.
Speaker 2: Always question your own evaluations and be willing to adapt them.
Speaker 2: And so I think you need to sort of undo
Speaker 2: some of those preconceived notions even now at the stage
Speaker 2: of camp, because if a guy comes on and carries
Speaker 2: production into week one, you have to wait that more
Speaker 2: than a guy that you liked back in OTA's who
Speaker 2: maybe hasn't made as many plays lately. That trajectory, to
Speaker 2: me is super fascinating. And to that point, how about
Speaker 2: the trajectory of a single practice for a veteran like
Speaker 2: Kendall Fuller who's played close to ten thousand snaps in
Speaker 2: his career, and this two parter here encapsulates not just
Speaker 2: that concept, but also how camp practices without the benefit
Speaker 2: of a play sheet is at best guesswork. And I
Speaker 2: again say that as a person that kind of makes
Speaker 2: my hay during training camp. So Kendall allowed a touchdown
Speaker 2: pass to scary Terry McLaurin in that opening red zone period,
Speaker 2: but then he closes practice with my favorite moment from
Speaker 2: training camp so far. So the offense takes the ball
Speaker 2: down the field in an end of game situation, a
Speaker 2: critical third down completion from Tuo to Barios gets them
Speaker 2: into range, and Sanders drills the back of the net
Speaker 2: and splits the uprights right down the middle from fifty
Speaker 2: four yards away. In fact, I asked Jason about it
Speaker 2: after practice and I was like, dude, how many yards
Speaker 2: are you good from right now? And he was like,
Speaker 2: kind of fresh leg man, Let's keep that leg fresh.
Speaker 2: But on the defensive side, the Commanders line up for
Speaker 2: their first play and they try to go win the
Speaker 2: game with their offense and McLaurin gets out of his break,
Speaker 2: Kendall Fuller caps it, gets his hands on the receiver
Speaker 2: and knocks him to the ground. And I don't care
Speaker 2: where anybody said, you're gonna retweets about him slipping and falling.
Speaker 2: A professional athlete does not fall for no reason, especially
Speaker 2: on turf that's not wet. Doesn't happen. I actually used
Speaker 2: to tell refs this in basketball games. If I got
Speaker 2: knocked to the ground, I'd be like, I'm an athlete.
Speaker 2: I don't just fall down for no reason. That was
Speaker 2: a foul, and they'd be like, oh, you fell down
Speaker 2: by yourself. No, dude, it didn't happen. I was always
Speaker 2: trying to gain the refs that way. But it's true,
Speaker 2: Like I was a you know, three year letter athlete
Speaker 2: in the basketball team, Like I'm not just falling down
Speaker 2: on my own. So Kendall wins the physicality aspect of
Speaker 2: the matchup. McLaurin falls down and Kendall picks it off,
Speaker 2: and he does this right in front of the commander's sideline.
Speaker 2: He makes the play, goes to the ground, pops back up,
Speaker 2: and then folds his arms across his chest and strikes
Speaker 2: the post that has to say, yeah, I'm that dude,
Speaker 2: and the best part, his teammates rushed the field and
Speaker 2: mob him. It reminded me of when my my wife
Speaker 2: and I went and saw WSU on a Friday night
Speaker 2: packed twelve primetime football game, number fifteen in the country
Speaker 2: take down number five ranked USC Austin Jackson's fifth ranked
Speaker 2: Trojans on that Friday night in Pullman, and we rushed
Speaker 2: the field after the game, and Mike Leach was interviewed
Speaker 2: and said, it's like woodstock out here, only everybody is
Speaker 2: fully clothed. That's kind of what it reminded me of
Speaker 2: with full clothed football players. Awesome, awesome scene. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and get the play by play on those two
Speaker 2: plays from Kendall Fuller.
Speaker 6: The coverage that we were in, it was a coverage
Speaker 6: that we haven't ran as much. So for me, it
Speaker 6: was a learning experience of just knowing how or when
Speaker 6: I can expect to use my safety and whether or
Speaker 6: not I can use them or if I have to
Speaker 6: be more aggressive and things like that. And Terry made
Speaker 6: a had a good, good route, good catch, and then
Speaker 6: at the end it was just an out route that
Speaker 6: I love to make plays on, and I was unfortunately
Speaker 6: able to make it, make a play on it.
Speaker 2: And so just another reminder, we cannot look at camp
Speaker 2: play results without context because the purpose, again is not
Speaker 2: to win camp plays, but to get prepared for the
Speaker 2: season a new coverage. Do you want to roll that
Speaker 2: out in September or do you want to win a
Speaker 2: camp practice in August? Pretty obviously answer to me. That's
Speaker 2: my only point there. And it works both ways where
Speaker 2: we get maybe too excited, and I'm definitely guilty of that,
Speaker 2: but I the excitement and conviction that I have on
Speaker 2: the podcast every day about where I believe this team
Speaker 2: is going is steeped in, you know, the past eight
Speaker 2: months of studying this team and the moves and how
Speaker 2: they might fit. So it's not just like, oh right,
Speaker 2: don't run Like no, it's it's watching Tennessee tape and
Speaker 2: hearing coach talk about how they want to use this
Speaker 2: guy like it's it's not just lacking context like I
Speaker 2: see some of the other content that talks about how
Speaker 2: bad it is.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and go back here to Toront Armstead
Speaker 2: who talked about Kendall Fuller and that play he made
Speaker 2: at the end of practice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you can tell the impact that Kendall has
Speaker 4: brought to this team already. He's a he's a joy
Speaker 4: to be around. Guys love him in the locker room,
Speaker 4: in on the field, he's the leader, not the most
Speaker 4: vocal guy, but he's a very consistent pro, which which
Speaker 4: you love to see. He's he's always on his game,
Speaker 4: always on his technique. So it's only fitting for him
Speaker 4: to be the one to get that interception and kind
Speaker 4: of in practice against his former teams.
Speaker 2: And let's close up this segment with the rest of
Speaker 2: the defensive backs or a few of them. From what
Speaker 2: I saw, Cater Kohu, I think had the best day.
Speaker 2: He made some plays. I saw him get a TfL
Speaker 2: in the red zone period, and I saw him score
Speaker 2: both a pass breakup and a forced incompletion separate of
Speaker 2: that pass breakup in the move the ball period. So
Speaker 2: three plays there from him. And that was a period
Speaker 2: where Washington got almost nothing, so you know, back and
Speaker 2: forth flows of training camp. Marcus May picked off Daniels
Speaker 2: on a throw that was deflected over the middle of
Speaker 2: the football field. I think it was rookie tight end
Speaker 2: Ben soonet Son, who is looks awesome to me, but
Speaker 2: I cannot say with one hundred percent uncertainty because I
Speaker 2: couldn't see that far away, especially with jerseys rolled up
Speaker 2: under the chess pads.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: That's all I got for you guys there. We have
Speaker 2: a lot more here, including a lot of offensive line
Speaker 2: talk with Toron Armstead. I'm going to go on another
Speaker 2: rant that we'll see if you guys enjoy it or not.
Speaker 2: More sound from coach McDaniel. Will also hear from Raheem
Speaker 2: Moster and do the rest of the notes here on
Speaker 2: the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
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Speaker 5: You know I'm looking for today to matter. I say
Speaker 5: that to the players a ton and you can make
Speaker 5: today matter for your your your season, the team if
Speaker 5: you're fully committed and invested with the right mindset and
Speaker 5: focus for the job at hand and trimming the fact
Speaker 5: cutting out there's a lot of a lot of excitement,
Speaker 5: a lot of exuberance and joint practices and having your
Speaker 5: mind through competition still toward the team goal and the
Speaker 5: unit goal or the and your job on each and
Speaker 5: every play. That type of mindset adds up and builds
Speaker 5: over the course of the course of the training camp.
Speaker 5: That allows you to play your most convicted football, you know,
Speaker 5: in the regular season, or allows you to play more
Speaker 5: the most convicted football for this preseason game, which for
Speaker 5: a lot of participants is as important as a game
Speaker 5: could get. I just wanted to matter, and how it
Speaker 5: matters is through intent. Are you prepared, have you taken
Speaker 5: all the stuff that we've learned, are you heating to
Speaker 5: the points of emphasis? And then how do you respond
Speaker 5: to the inevitable play that the opposing team makes. All
Speaker 5: of those things are what I'm looking for because I
Speaker 5: know I don't know exactly what I just know it
Speaker 5: today will matter if we operate accordingly.
Speaker 2: And that theme continues as we get closer and closer
Speaker 2: to the end of training camp. In fact, that was
Speaker 2: the last day of fans here at the Baptist Hell
Speaker 2: Training Complex. We have two practices next week here and
Speaker 2: then one in Tampa Bay the game, and then it's
Speaker 2: on to cut down day and the regular season. We
Speaker 2: kind of made it, guys like we're getting very close.
Speaker 2: My son's been sick. The ac in my house went
Speaker 2: out there the night. That's an expensive fun bill to pay.
Speaker 2: It's just been a long week for you boy, and
Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to watch Hard Knocks yet.
Speaker 2: One of my top five comedians of all time, Nick Swartzen,
Speaker 2: has a new special out. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 2: to watch that yet. So I am itching to get
Speaker 2: to some content and then hopefully things get a little
Speaker 2: less cadoic around the Wingfold household to slow down time
Speaker 2: for a football season, because I can't wait. It's been
Speaker 2: it's brown way too long since we last saw professional
Speaker 2: football in a competitive environment. Let's go ahead theugh and
Speaker 2: continue the day's work here. And I want to go
Speaker 2: back to Tarron Armstead in a moment, as we are
Speaker 2: going to be offensive line, running back and run game
Speaker 2: heavy on the podcast today and to that point, you
Speaker 2: know again, I saw that we were keeping score on
Speaker 2: the red zone touchdown plays and the Dolphins were behind
Speaker 2: twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Nothing like.
Speaker 2: Okay, come on, bro, like we're doing that. You mean
Speaker 2: the team that we beat last year forty five to
Speaker 2: fifteen last year in a real game.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like, look, I don't There's a lot of content out there,
Speaker 2: and I think that your time as a fan and
Speaker 2: why I try to make this podcast as tight as
Speaker 2: possible with the most pertinent information. I can make this
Speaker 2: show an hour every day because I find that much compelling.
Speaker 2: But I find your time valuable, and you can listen
Speaker 2: to whatever you want. But I just think there's enough
Speaker 2: good content out there to avoid the vapid rhetoric that
Speaker 2: I so often see. Now, with all of that said,
Speaker 2: I loved, loved, loved how the Dolphins were getting surge
Speaker 2: in the running game, and it was once again more
Speaker 2: creative than your vanilla, stagnant stuff that you might see
Speaker 2: early on in training camp. You're starting to see kind
Speaker 2: of the implementation of I guess we'll call them wrinkles
Speaker 2: off of last year's run game and last year's motions.
Speaker 2: I won't go any more into detail, but just know
Speaker 2: that week one you're going to see new stuff like
Speaker 2: that's how this offense works. And without going into detail,
Speaker 2: it just looked like in season run game stuff, and
Speaker 2: it got me thinking, you know, we get to Ron
Speaker 2: Armstead today for media availability, the best press conference on
Speaker 2: the entire team. From my money, let's ask this guy
Speaker 2: who has seen every run scheme in the history of football.
Speaker 2: And I actually began my question with that way with
Speaker 2: t Stead, and he just leans into the mic and
Speaker 2: goes facts that was a fun moment. But I wanted
Speaker 2: to ask him, as a decade plus long vet who
Speaker 2: has seen everything this game has to offer, it's got
Speaker 2: to be fun to sit in there and watch coach
Speaker 2: and Frank Smith and you know, Eric Studisville in the
Speaker 2: entire run game Operation install the league's most creative run game, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. They find ways to continue to innovate.
Speaker 4: They continue to evolve the run game. They put the
Speaker 4: defense in bonds that's advantageous for us as far as leverage.
Speaker 4: And then they allow a whole line to be playmakers.
Speaker 4: So I'm able to get up to the second level
Speaker 4: the corner or maybe even a safety, things that in
Speaker 4: most run game schemes you you don't necessarily dom usually
Speaker 4: blocking a DN or double team in on a detac
Speaker 4: or something like that. But be able to get up
Speaker 4: to line Baker's corners and all that, you know, I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm making you know, I can get a
Speaker 4: chance to make a play.
Speaker 2: I just can't love that enough. Allowing your offensive line
Speaker 2: to be playmakers and feel like they are playmakers at
Speaker 2: a position where it's kind of all about, like you know,
Speaker 2: silent operation. I don't know how many of you guys
Speaker 2: have ever grinded the Testead Saints tape, but if you
Speaker 2: get a chance, like do it. Because he was a
Speaker 2: freaking playmaker there. Some of his pancakes like comical Looney
Speaker 2: Tunes style decleating blocks where he would get Alvin Kamara
Speaker 2: these walk in touchdown runs because the defender on the
Speaker 2: edge is you know, doing the who like freaking curly
Speaker 2: and the three stooges getting pushed around ice skates. Not
Speaker 2: many left tackles have been playmakers like Toront Armstead, and
Speaker 2: I thought we got some of that today. The first
Speaker 2: two runs of the practice were perfectly created edges where
Speaker 2: they dented and sealed the perimeter for the combinations of
Speaker 2: Austin Jackson, Durham Smyth, John Newsmith and alec Ingold to
Speaker 2: get too nice where he moster at runs just erasing
Speaker 2: their gap fits and springing heam for some shifty runs
Speaker 2: off the perimeter. Then when they went inside they found
Speaker 2: their footing with right with Heim with Savon Ahmed. I
Speaker 2: thought Rob Jones was instrumental there. And speaking of Rob Jones,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and go back to t Stead on
Speaker 2: what he sees in Big Rob's game.
Speaker 4: He's proven. He's proven. He's still young, but he got
Speaker 4: he got games under his belt against high level talent.
Speaker 2: He's proven.
Speaker 4: He's a dog. He's physical, he's strong, he's smart, he's tough,
Speaker 4: everything that you want in a player. I love playing next.
Speaker 2: One and I saw that pretty much throughout the period
Speaker 2: where they would get these first and ten runs or
Speaker 2: first in goal runs rather from the ten yard line,
Speaker 2: and they would get it inside the five. That is
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do on first and goal from
Speaker 2: the ten. If you can get it inside the five
Speaker 2: yard line, you now have two cracks, maybe three cracks
Speaker 2: at finding a three or four yard touchdown. Sign me
Speaker 2: up for that. It happened all day long. And I
Speaker 2: want to dive in deeper here to Rob Jones because
Speaker 2: you know so I referenced that Cowboys drive at the
Speaker 2: end of the year last year, where him and Jeff Wilson,
Speaker 2: and that's why I like, that's why I care about
Speaker 2: guys deep onto the death chart. Jeff Wilson came into
Speaker 2: the year as an ir back who was, you know,
Speaker 2: fourth in the death chart. Rob Jones is probably O
Speaker 2: line eight and they're making critical plays on Christmas Eve
Speaker 2: to win you a game that clinches a playoff Berth.
Speaker 2: I can't fathom coming out here and being like, well,
Speaker 2: Tyreek's not playing, so I don't really care about this practice.
Speaker 2: Every player can give you information out here. And I
Speaker 2: also wasn't shy about how I thought Rob played at
Speaker 2: right tackle his rookie year in that season finale against
Speaker 2: the Patriots, and a reminder that this is a guy
Speaker 2: that was a UDFA from Middle Tennessee State, And in
Speaker 2: talking to Rob Jones last year in open locker rooms,
Speaker 2: have kind of gotten to know him, and he's a
Speaker 2: very friendly fella, and through our chats and interviews, you
Speaker 2: know he only started playing football as a senior in
Speaker 2: high school. He then goes to Juco before Middle Tennessee
Speaker 2: State and there he runs duo. That's it, per him,
Speaker 2: just ran duo.
Speaker 1: And what duo is.
Speaker 2: It's combination blocks, double teams. It's like a it's more
Speaker 2: of a counter to outside zone in some sense, but
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more like connective and more down
Speaker 2: blocking than playing horizontally like this offense does. Then he
Speaker 2: gets here and it's you know, in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: more of that duo and RPO concepts, which is more
Speaker 2: down blocking. But then his second year as a pro,
Speaker 2: you pivot to this complete remaking of your game in
Speaker 2: this system. Remember we discussed that in twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: with Rob Hunt, with Austin Jackson. These guys are like,
Speaker 2: we have to relearn the position entirely. McDaniels said as much.
Speaker 2: You know, Matt applebomb holes as much. And you know
Speaker 2: Rob Jones gets a little bit of time, but not
Speaker 2: much there. And then last year he goes through some
Speaker 2: bad injury luck and has these two injuries that rob
Speaker 2: him pun of some time, but gets back in there
Speaker 2: and gets some run late in the season. Now he's
Speaker 2: down to three hundred and fifteen pounds per him He
Speaker 2: was listed at three hundred and twenty eight pounds last year.
Speaker 2: He's had a full, healthy offseason. And I keep thinking
Speaker 2: about this trend in the NFL of offensive linemen that
Speaker 2: take more time than any other position to develop. And
Speaker 2: while you're seeing these highly drafted linemen not work out
Speaker 2: in their first and then they go somewhere else on
Speaker 2: a prove it type of deal, they ball out and
Speaker 2: they get paid and they take off. Like I could
Speaker 2: see that happening for Evan Neil who's been an absolute
Speaker 2: travesty for the Giants for his first two years and
Speaker 2: just a random name. Even Christian Darras saw with the Vikings.
Speaker 2: Go watch with Vikings fans or look at I should
Speaker 2: say what they said about him during his rookie season.
Speaker 2: Now he's one hundred million dollar player. Like the college
Speaker 2: game is not conducive by and large to NFL line
Speaker 2: play development. They're just not. It's a vertical set. Get
Speaker 2: in the way and then get back to the huddle.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about finishing your blocks or driving guys into
Speaker 2: the ground. It's the exact same thing I said about
Speaker 2: Patrick Paul when they drafted him. Do you think Dana Holgerson,
Speaker 2: one of the greatest offensive minds in college football the
Speaker 2: last two decades, Do you think he cares about getting
Speaker 2: his offensive lineman ready for the National Football League or
Speaker 2: that his system is in any way conducive to their development.
Speaker 2: He's got a system that works and wins games, and
Speaker 2: that's all his ad cares about. You see it all
Speaker 2: the time. Austin Jackson much a twenty year old rookie
Speaker 2: who had less than one thousand collars reps and took
Speaker 2: some time to have it click. Now look at him.
Speaker 2: He's got a three year contract for the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: and it has me thinking, we keep thinking that Leam
Speaker 2: Eikenberg is the next one who's going to have that
Speaker 2: light come on for him, or maybe you're not, but
Speaker 2: that's I think the sentiment that you would hope for
Speaker 2: due to his draft position and you know how much
Speaker 2: time he's played, but I look at that as a
Speaker 2: deterrent for improvement and development because he played like four
Speaker 2: thousand snaps at another Dame and has played a ton
Speaker 2: of snaps through his first three years as a pro.
Speaker 2: I think maybe the guy with minimal snaps over the
Speaker 2: first two years, who used JUCO and Group of five
Speaker 2: Football to kind of learn the game and then had
Speaker 2: to relearn it again his second year as a pro,
Speaker 2: I think that guy might have the salt to kind
Speaker 2: of be the next guy we look at and look
Speaker 2: at how he developed and gave us another hit on
Speaker 2: the offensive line that wasn't from an unexpected or rather
Speaker 2: an expected form of acquisition, and by that I mean
Speaker 2: a high draft pick or a big free agent signing.
Speaker 2: And all this talk kind of has me feeling ranty
Speaker 2: once again. So here's what I want to do. And
Speaker 2: when you hear the audio difference here, just know that
Speaker 2: this was on the postgame show that we recorded last
Speaker 2: Friday night with Seth and OJ, so it's going to
Speaker 2: sound different, But this was the rant that I prepared
Speaker 2: for the show about concerning thoughts I see regarding the
Speaker 2: offense as a whole. It is offensive line heavy, but
Speaker 2: I keep trying to make this point, yet I still
Speaker 2: see the same stuff. I don't know, Maybe I need
Speaker 2: to broadcast this to a wider audience somehow, but this
Speaker 2: was my rant on how the number one offense in
Speaker 2: the NFL with plenty of research that you'll hear on
Speaker 2: the on the rant will be just fine. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: hear something once or multiple times that gives you inspiration
Speaker 2: to do it yourself. And my esteem co host here,
Speaker 2: Seth Levitt, has one of my favorite segments that I've heard.
Speaker 3: He did on the Draft Show.
Speaker 2: He's done a few of them here for us in
Speaker 2: the Postgame show, he's don on the Happy Hour Show
Speaker 2: that him induced posts during the season as well. And
Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and lift my co host
Speaker 2: here my Kinsigi area, my friend his bit. If you
Speaker 2: guys don't mind real quick. It's something that has you
Speaker 2: that's right. It's something that has been on my mind
Speaker 2: for several days now. And you know what I think, Guys,
Speaker 2: what do you think, Travis? I think this growing sentiment
Speaker 2: that I see. Maybe it's my insulated you know, social
Speaker 2: media feed that's doing this, But what I see is
Speaker 2: this sentiment that the Dolphins offense is in some sort
Speaker 2: of trouble this year because of a few practice reports,
Speaker 2: not just practice practice, but the practice reports from somebody else.
Speaker 2: I can't fathom seeing the sky is falling when you
Speaker 2: have two years of proof of concept for how this
Speaker 2: offense works. But the last two weeks of camp that
Speaker 2: that is the real indicator sarcasm. And the thing that
Speaker 2: I keep reading is that, yes, this quick passing game
Speaker 2: works and it's great, but I like to not have
Speaker 2: to rely upon that. That is not something that they
Speaker 2: do to mask an issue. That's the staple is the
Speaker 2: staple of the offense. And can someone please please tell
Speaker 2: me where the issue is? With the following combination of statistics,
Speaker 2: you guys ready for this. Your twenty twenty three, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two Dolphins offenses cumulatively over those thirty four games.
Speaker 3: Were first in air yards.
Speaker 2: That's how many yards the ball travels from when it
Speaker 2: leaves to was hand to when it greeched the receiver.
Speaker 3: They were first in snap to throw time.
Speaker 2: That is the time between Tua taking the snap and
Speaker 2: the ball getting out of his hand, aka how much
Speaker 2: time the pass rush has to hunt him down. They're
Speaker 2: also first in yards per attempt. That just means we're
Speaker 2: the most efficient passing offense in the NFL. So nobody
Speaker 2: pushed the ball further down the field, did it faster,
Speaker 2: or was more successful these last two seasons. What is
Speaker 2: the issue with that? And you can tell me that
Speaker 2: they lost guys on the offensive line, that is true.
Speaker 2: You can tell me those injuries were when the offense
Speaker 2: fell off.
Speaker 3: That is not true.
Speaker 2: The combination of Robert Hunt, Connor Williams, and Isaiah Win
Speaker 2: played twelve hundred of a possible thirty three hundred snaps
Speaker 2: last year across those three positions. You can tell me
Speaker 2: they neglected to address the offense this offseason. Is well,
Speaker 2: but it's also not true. They told you where the
Speaker 2: offense had.
Speaker 3: To get better.
Speaker 2: McDaniel himself has talked several times on the record in
Speaker 2: public about better taking advantage of the space that gets
Speaker 2: created from all the attention that teams give ten and
Speaker 2: seventeen Tyreek Kill and Jalen Waddle. So enter obj who
Speaker 2: can play three positions and win vertically from all of them.
Speaker 2: Enter John new Smith, who is the best tight end
Speaker 2: in the NFL running after the catch and also gives
Speaker 2: you access to screens on a y io, which is
Speaker 2: essentially one way of getting more out of the space
Speaker 2: from Tyreek, Hill and Waddle, and essentially puts him in
Speaker 2: positions to break tackles one on one against somebody that
Speaker 2: he has fifty pounds against. Enter Malik Washington. We saw
Speaker 2: him tonight. All he's done all camp long is get open,
Speaker 2: make catches and hit key blocks. Enter Jalen Wright saw
Speaker 2: him tonight. He looks outstanding, and he gives you runway
Speaker 2: to expand von A Chan's role in the passing game
Speaker 2: without drastically increasing his workload. I don't know about you, fellows,
Speaker 2: but would you set up for two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: touches at eight yards per touch?
Speaker 3: Again, I'm good for that. I'm good with that.
Speaker 2: No duo of players create more overplay than the Cheetah
Speaker 2: and the Penguin and now there are one on one
Speaker 2: beaters all over the field to capitalize on that. What
Speaker 2: happened last December was an injury to Tyreek and Layer
Speaker 2: to Waddle. Their practice time was limited even when they
Speaker 2: were available to play in the games, which is a
Speaker 2: challenge and a timing offense, you need those reps. And
Speaker 2: when the defense bracketed or played two men, or however
Speaker 2: they tried to make Tyreek and Waddle difficult for Tua
Speaker 2: to find. We didn't always have the answer, but now
Speaker 2: we do, and it creates a bigger strength for the
Speaker 2: foundation by which the offense was built. It's not a gimmick,
Speaker 2: it's not a feature. It is the offense. And you
Speaker 2: know who agrees with me, every single branch of this
Speaker 2: entire coaching tree, which is the most in vogue coaching
Speaker 2: tree in the National Football League. Did you know that McDaniel, Lafleur, McVeigh, Kubiak,
Speaker 2: even Papa.
Speaker 3: Shanahan, Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 2: Did you know that not one of those coaches ever
Speaker 2: drafted an interior offensive lineman in the first round, not ever.
Speaker 2: Big Seth has a feather in his cap from that
Speaker 2: one back on Draft night, too. One step further, Kyle
Speaker 2: Shanahan has taken just one of those guys before Day three.
Speaker 2: That was Aaron Banks in twenty twenty one, and Matt
Speaker 2: Lafleur has taken just one Elton Jenkins in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: and the Godfather, Papa Shanahan took one in his entire
Speaker 2: tenure prior to the third round.
Speaker 3: Look at the Niners and Packers offenses.
Speaker 2: Their skill players are all high draft picks and massive
Speaker 2: money acquisitions, and by this time next year, the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: to a Love and Purty are all going to be
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar quarterbacks. The interior o lines cheap
Speaker 2: veteran contracts or day three picks up and down the
Speaker 2: board for those teams. You wouldn't assemble a team with
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant and then dump
Speaker 2: the ball into Draymond Green in the post. Forty times
Speaker 2: a game, you shoot the three, baby. This is how
Speaker 2: the offense works. They've proven it works time and time
Speaker 2: and time and time again. The offense will be fine
Speaker 2: even if it regresses because of a couple of banged
Speaker 2: up offensive linemen. What are we talking about here? Fifth
Speaker 2: best offense in the NFL. Boohoo, the sky is not following.
Speaker 2: The offense is going to be fine. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: All right, what's say you guys some of your thoughts
Speaker 2: on that. Let's go ahead and take our last break.
Speaker 2: Come back and hear more from Toront Armstead. Here from
Speaker 2: Raheem Mostert and the rest of the day's notes. That's
Speaker 2: next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 2: you by Auto Nation. So the running game had some
Speaker 2: room on Thursday. Let's go back to Tron Armstead, who
Speaker 2: discussed his perspective on something McDaniel said this week about
Speaker 2: how you can kind of gauge a back's ability by
Speaker 2: how guys block for him, and Tron says, the home
Speaker 2: run hitting ability in this backfield, Yeah, it does give
Speaker 2: you a little bit of extra juice on your blocks.
Speaker 4: We have a stable, we do, we do. We have
Speaker 4: a stable, very dynamic, a lot of a lot of speed.
Speaker 4: And then you got guys that have their own unique
Speaker 4: styles too. So Essa come in and he just he
Speaker 4: flashes in his own way. Dvaughn, Raheem the young rook too,
Speaker 4: you know. So it's it's we have a lot of
Speaker 4: guys that can that can hit home runs up front
Speaker 4: to definitely give you a boost energy and you you know,
Speaker 4: you don't got to do too much. You get your
Speaker 4: man and it's a chance to.
Speaker 3: Be a home run.
Speaker 2: Quick follow up to that, I asked Rahim most of
Speaker 2: about the competition the running back room, and he did
Speaker 2: not parse his words on how he views where this
Speaker 2: running back room ranks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we're always we're always trying to compete
Speaker 1: against each other, but you know we're trying to compete
Speaker 1: against you know, the entire league too. You know, I
Speaker 1: feel like our group is definitely the best running back
Speaker 1: group that's in the in the entire league. It just statistically,
Speaker 1: if you go by what everybody's done thus far in
Speaker 1: their careers, I don't think anyone else matches up to
Speaker 1: our standards. And it just carries out, carries over into
Speaker 1: the entire season. You see what you know myself? You know,
Speaker 1: even with Devon last year, I mean that number that
Speaker 1: he the yards could carry for a rookie man is
Speaker 1: just that's just crazy, right, Like that's never I don't
Speaker 1: think it's ever gonna happen again, you know, him having
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards as a rookie and coming in fitting
Speaker 1: in right. And then you have Jeff Wilson who's done
Speaker 1: some unbelievable things. You have Sad who's been you know,
Speaker 1: doing some things as well. So we have a whole
Speaker 1: collective group of guys. I mean even even with the fullback,
Speaker 1: you know, alec Engel is just his unbelievable guy as
Speaker 1: well and a huge playmaker for this for this team.
Speaker 1: So you just got to carry it over into the
Speaker 1: season and and you know grow from from here on out.
Speaker 2: Segment three has kind of become random, uh, miscellaneous points,
Speaker 2: and that's what we're gonna do right here. Because Patrick
Speaker 2: Paul I thought, had himself another nice day as one
Speaker 2: of those edge denters in the running game. Toront Arstead
Speaker 2: gave us some you know, scouting reports on the big
Speaker 2: rookie out of Houston.
Speaker 4: His passport is looking really clean, He's getting a lot
Speaker 4: of he's finding his patients in his past sets. He's long,
Speaker 4: he's six fourteen, so he's able to use his length,
Speaker 4: and he's he's keeping his feet in the ground. Still
Speaker 4: got some some things that I would want to see
Speaker 4: from one of more consistent base, but it's starting to
Speaker 4: see more flashes of the dominance that that he has
Speaker 4: in his his body is to his toolbox, and that
Speaker 4: will continue to show more consistently. Been past, it's been
Speaker 4: great man. He go after it every day. Hard, physical,
Speaker 4: he's freaky, athletic, he's tough. But then the tools that
Speaker 4: he got, the God given you gifts that he that
Speaker 4: he has to be able to use those as well.
Speaker 4: More experienced, more knowledge he pat to be. It'll be
Speaker 4: just fine.
Speaker 2: I think six foot fourteen is seven foot two. He's
Speaker 2: a big dude, all right. So for the rest of
Speaker 2: the offense, Tyreek got deep on a long ball from Tua,
Speaker 2: but Tua overshot him. Not something you see very often,
Speaker 2: Tyreek getting overthrown. But he was awesome again he always is.
Speaker 2: Malik Washington had a nice catch on a deep ball
Speaker 2: from Mike White, a contested catch for about forty yards.
Speaker 2: Tua had touchdown throws to River, Craik Craft and Durham
Speaker 2: smythe In fact, the tight ends were super involved today.
Speaker 2: Durham had two touchdowns another from Skyler and John who
Speaker 2: was all over the field, catching, blocking, running, making all
Speaker 2: the all star moves. I just continue to see his
Speaker 2: skill set as such a change up to everything that
Speaker 2: we do and what I think he can do in
Speaker 2: your screen game. I've talked about it at length. You
Speaker 2: know that why Iso backside throwing the ball, try to
Speaker 2: see if a safety can go tackle him one on one.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that, and so too is running
Speaker 2: back Raheem Moster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there should be quite a few differences.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We we've had Durham in the past and other tight
Speaker 1: ends that you know have made a key impass. But
Speaker 1: you know, to get a guy like John new to
Speaker 1: come in and do do you know yards after catch
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. He's pretty fast as well for a tight end,
Speaker 1: and he could block on the edge and he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to get a little dirty. So when you got
Speaker 1: guys like that, man, it just it takes his game
Speaker 1: to a whole nother level. And I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see what he could bring to the table. And and
Speaker 1: I've been a big fan of his, you know, just
Speaker 1: watching from Afar, I'm seeing all the type of things
Speaker 1: that he's been able to do. So to see him
Speaker 1: flourish and in this offense is gonna be spectacular.
Speaker 2: Let's finish up here with extra points on the defense.
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Ogball was awesome today. Saw him in the backfield
Speaker 2: a handful of times. I had him for a sack
Speaker 2: and a TfL. Now how that happened, not really sure, sorry,
Speaker 2: but becoming a bit of a play by a play
Speaker 2: man here. But that's the antithesis of what I'm going for,
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. I couldn't see much
Speaker 2: from my vanage point. Deshan Hann continues to have a
Speaker 2: sneaky good camp. I saw him get some knock back
Speaker 2: a couple of times today when I had the b
Speaker 2: knocks out and really trying to focus on that defensive line.
Speaker 2: And then David Long was the guy that made splash
Speaker 2: plays from what I could see as the player of
Speaker 2: a day on defense. I saw him whack a check
Speaker 2: down and send a big body tight end backwards and
Speaker 2: he's not a big dude, but he plays like it man.
Speaker 2: And I saw him greet a running back who tried
Speaker 2: to cut back in the hole on him and get
Speaker 2: just absolutely annihilated in the gap. He brought the hammer
Speaker 2: and attitude all day long. I thought Brandon Peely and
Speaker 2: Jonathan Harris had some good days among the defensive line
Speaker 2: as well, and that's all I got for you tomorrow
Speaker 2: a preview of the game, and the great Ky Adams
Speaker 2: here on the podcast. I cannot wait for y'all to
Speaker 2: hear that one. And then a football game, and I
Speaker 2: can't wait for that one either. As always, will have
Speaker 2: full coverage on game night, a podcast that comes out
Speaker 2: in the early morning hours on Sunday, and then back
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