WEBVTT - Human Paper Dolls: Enclothed Cognition

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to bow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb, and um Julie Douglas or

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<v Speaker 1>am I? I don't know. You're dressed like Julie Douglas,

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<v Speaker 1>so you must be Julida. I do have my Julie

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas uniform on today. It's true. Described the Julie Douglas uniform. Yeah, well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty boring. Actually, it's usually like monochrome, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some dark jeans on with the dark top,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and some dark shoes kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a German sensibility. Okay, I'll go with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little ust here. Yeah. What about you, Robert Lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>what's sort of what sort of role are you taking

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<v Speaker 1>on here with your clothes? Well? I tend to favor

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<v Speaker 1>of course, as anyone who knows from the videos that

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<v Speaker 1>we put out. Since you may wonder, wow, Robert Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have like three things that you wear, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is true. I tend to gravitate around blue jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt of some kind, and then a hoodie

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind of which and then these things will

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<v Speaker 1>gradually wear out and I'll get replacements, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't even point. I'll have like two or three

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<v Speaker 1>versions of the same shirt or the same hoodie. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the pattern I've been in. But I love

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<v Speaker 1>the hoodie because it Uh. My thing with it is

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<v Speaker 1>that on one level, it feels kind of monastic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like I'm in the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rose and there. And therefore, when I come into

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<v Speaker 1>work and I sitting under my desk and I get

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<v Speaker 1>out some books and pull up some studies on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the laptop, I can I can sync up my

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<v Speaker 1>hoodie here, and I feel kind of like I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a monk engaged in serious, um focused study and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's also the fact that I can I

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of zip up the hoodie and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it hugs me, and I get this like tight feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm tightly contained and therefore maybe even more

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<v Speaker 1>focused on when I'm working on you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>say it's like your study hoodie, or you think about

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie from the Facts of Life had like a special

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<v Speaker 1>outfit that you would wear, including a hoodie. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>she studied. So yeah, I mean it's true that you

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<v Speaker 1>you put on certain clothes to feel a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>to act a certain way, and that is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about today. We're going to zone in

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<v Speaker 1>on this, but we're also going to talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>called embodied cognition, which is this idea that there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that influences the way that we behave, the

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<v Speaker 1>way that our mind processes information. Yeah, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>these areas where on the surface of things, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know that the way you dress changes, the way you

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<v Speaker 1>carry yourself, the way you feel about yourself. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you actually look at it and you examine and you

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<v Speaker 1>take it out, and you you know, take some distance

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<v Speaker 1>on and sort of move the concept around in your

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<v Speaker 1>hand a little bit, you realize how strange and wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. It is. And um, embodied cognition and

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<v Speaker 1>clothed cognition what we're talking about today. These are two

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<v Speaker 1>fairly new fields of thought in terms of how humans behave.

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<v Speaker 1>Behavioral psychology is something that has been, you know, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies, a very big field of study, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the theory of learning, based upon the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>all behaviors are acquired through conditioning, right um. Cognitive psychology

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<v Speaker 1>whichs probably been more of the reining field as of late,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is concerned with internal mental states as well

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<v Speaker 1>as how people acquire, process and store information, and that

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<v Speaker 1>also delves into neuroscience and linguistics in order to explain

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<v Speaker 1>human behavior. And the whole thing kind of treads the

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<v Speaker 1>mind body problem as well a little bit when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what am I in my brain and my

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<v Speaker 1>body and what is this interplay between mind and body

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<v Speaker 1>and and how does it all factor into who and

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<v Speaker 1>what I am? Well, that's what I like about embodied cognition. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this this newer field because it does take into account

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of acquired behaviors or behaviors that are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much moved along by how we process information. But it

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<v Speaker 1>also has this idea of like, what if we are

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<v Speaker 1>all just a bunch of paper dolls performing the role

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever paper outfit we stick on for that day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's pretty actionist, and there's more to it than that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but it's more of this idea of we're

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<v Speaker 1>all walking around in these physical cages we put over

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and all the trappings that go along with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and this does inform our mental states and how we

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<v Speaker 1>operate in the world. Now, one of the concepts we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing here here with here is positive contagent uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>this refers to the belief of transference of beneficial properties

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<v Speaker 1>between animate persons and objects to previously neutral objects. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this concept a bit in the past

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<v Speaker 1>in reference to lucky charms magical objects. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>that that an object that belonged to a person that

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<v Speaker 1>is now dead is somehow on varying levels, either on

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<v Speaker 1>an avert level, like you're can look at a watch

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, the spirit of my father is in

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<v Speaker 1>this watch, or it may be a very sort of

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<v Speaker 1>almost subconscious thing where you end up aspiring a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of meaning to the watch, even if you don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>believe it has some sort of magical power to it

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<v Speaker 1>or some sort of actual spiritual residence. Yeah, but that

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<v Speaker 1>does kind of there's a of a voodoo nest about it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>bet you feel um. A good example of this is

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<v Speaker 1>the study putting like a pro the role of positive

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<v Speaker 1>contagion and golf performance and perception. And in that study,

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<v Speaker 1>what was found is that people who believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>were using the professional golfers. Putter perceived the size of

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<v Speaker 1>golf holes to be larger than they actually were, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a better performance and they sunk more puts

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<v Speaker 1>because they thought they were harnessing this magic of the

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<v Speaker 1>pros um equipment. Yeah, they had the professional equipment. And

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<v Speaker 1>then therefore, and I love how the study boils down

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they actually saw the whole is bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. It's not just a matter of oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they had better equipment, and then they were a little

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<v Speaker 1>boosted up ego wise, and they performed a little better,

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<v Speaker 1>they were a little more confident. But no, they actually

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<v Speaker 1>saw the whole as bigger um. And again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those studies that really drives them something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all already know. You you already hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people say, well, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a professional about something, you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have the right equipment, because that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make the difference. And you're gonna feel more confident in

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<v Speaker 1>your abilities if you actually buy confident tools, right, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna feel prepared and ready to take the task on.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I like about that positive contagion is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice little entryway into this idea of embodied cognition,

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<v Speaker 1>because these embodiment theories are trying to understand the mind

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<v Speaker 1>is a set of physical processes derived throughout the brain

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<v Speaker 1>in the body of a human, ultimately serving his or

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<v Speaker 1>her actions in the physical world. That study also reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of a little bit of Holy Scripture. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to read here for you. Bring it on. When the

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<v Speaker 1>star belly children went out to play ball, could a

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<v Speaker 1>plain belly get in the game? Not at all. You

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<v Speaker 1>could only play ball of your bellies head stars, and

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<v Speaker 1>the plain belly children had none up on ours. That

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my favorite books. A Star Belli Sneeches

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<v Speaker 1>by Doors and that is a great example of how

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<v Speaker 1>people can sometimes behave depending on how they're branded or

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<v Speaker 1>how they brand themselves. They branded with the star or

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<v Speaker 1>they branded without the star and it is. That's a fabulous,

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<v Speaker 1>fabulous children's book that really boils down a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the ridiculousness of of human culture and how we work.

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<v Speaker 1>That you can easily apply it to do some of

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<v Speaker 1>the topics we're discussing here today. Yeah. Um, And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that when we get to in clothes cognition.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to point out something called the Embodiment

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<v Speaker 1>Lab at Barnard College at Columbia University. And what they

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<v Speaker 1>say is that in the lab they explore hypotheses that

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<v Speaker 1>flow for the assumption that the mind exists to serve

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<v Speaker 1>the body. And it's as several implications of this philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>stance that have guided our research are One that it

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<v Speaker 1>is not only true that the mind can influence the body,

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<v Speaker 1>but the body can influence the mind. Two, when we

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<v Speaker 1>think or feel, our mental representations will be directly related

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<v Speaker 1>to perception and action. And three, that's setting the perceptual

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<v Speaker 1>and motor functions of various thoughts, feelings and brain states

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<v Speaker 1>can help us to understand why, when, and how they

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<v Speaker 1>come about. Okay, so that's all good and will that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the philosophical basis of this. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>put some rubber to the road here. What we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about are the studies that have to do with um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the classic one. Let's say a warm cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee versus an iced coffee and how it might

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<v Speaker 1>actually make someone think their cognitive process. And we've brought

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<v Speaker 1>this up before, but I wanted to bring this up again. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this idea of warm drink, warm feelings. Yale

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<v Speaker 1>psychologists Williams and Barg found that when they let participants

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<v Speaker 1>hold this warm cup, the participants judged others to be

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<v Speaker 1>more sociable and this is a characteristic of personality dimension warm. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So further, when when participants briefly had a warm pack

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<v Speaker 1>on their necks, they themselves became more generous and other

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<v Speaker 1>acts of kindness that they studied in that but which

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<v Speaker 1>is why you should always bring a cup of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>to someone if you were about to ask them something difficult, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and maybe even if you're going into a job interview, right,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing some coffee, bringing bringing a warm pack to put

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<v Speaker 1>on your your future boss's neck, that won't be creepy

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<v Speaker 1>at all they look at the job. Yeah. Another really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting aspect of this is the handwashing zone. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent book on on this title Clean, A History

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<v Speaker 1>of Personal Hygiene Impurity by Virginia Smith that I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone. I think it may have UM touted it

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<v Speaker 1>here on the podcast before, but one of the core

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<v Speaker 1>arguments in this book is that not even an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just an analysis that throughout human history we

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<v Speaker 1>have this idea of hygiene, and then we have these

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<v Speaker 1>other ideas of spiritual purity, moral purity, um, pure thoughts, etcetera, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and these become intertwined as as we as we evolved

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<v Speaker 1>in as human culture builds up, you know, like detritus

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, until we really have difficulty separating one idea

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<v Speaker 1>from the next. Yeah. Again, this sort of like positive

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<v Speaker 1>contagion or actually a negative contagion. Yeah, because they're plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of examples of something that has been For instance, at

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<v Speaker 1>our house, we were out of out of tinfoil, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to cover the cat's wet food with a

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<v Speaker 1>little piece of cellophane, and then I secured the cellfane

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<v Speaker 1>around it with one of my wife's the hair ties,

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<v Speaker 1>and and so the hair tie was not touching cat

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<v Speaker 1>food at all, but I had to I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>in doing this I might not be actually defiling the

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<v Speaker 1>hair tile. It wasn't it wasn't made impure in any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of physical sense, but there was a spiritual contamidation

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<v Speaker 1>of it by being that close to ground up animal parts,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore could never be used on hair asbo to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get that because I don't even like a

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<v Speaker 1>hairbrush to be on my kitchen countertop. But it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of freaked me out. Yeah, and we talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of water purification. You know, there's just everything

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be purified for human consumption has to

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<v Speaker 1>be purified in the real but also in the imagined

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<v Speaker 1>realm of of purity. Well, um knowing does the purity

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<v Speaker 1>coming to play when you think about handwashing? But there's

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<v Speaker 1>something called the clean slate effect and spiked W. S

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<v Speaker 1>lee In. Norbert Schwartz of the University of Michigan asked

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<v Speaker 1>subjects to rank top ten CDs they'd like to own

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<v Speaker 1>from a list of thirty, and then they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>keep either their fifth or their sixth ranked disk. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where they introduced like, oh, which one

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<v Speaker 1>should I have? Okay? You really touching those top picks?

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<v Speaker 1>How many did they have to pick? Thirty? No, out

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty, they had to be their top ten, but

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<v Speaker 1>then they could keep their fifth or sixth. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>they're in lines the problem here because it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the ten, it's not the top pick, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So presumably there's some sort of like a consternation involved

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<v Speaker 1>with us. So what they had them do is they

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<v Speaker 1>have the subjects evaluate some hand soap. Some just stared

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<v Speaker 1>at it while others used it. Okay, And now the

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<v Speaker 1>subjects who didn't use the soap ranked their chosen CD

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<v Speaker 1>about two places higher than the one didn't pick, so

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<v Speaker 1>they they elevated it. And and this is the cognitive

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<v Speaker 1>This is is that some of us sometimes have when

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to make decisions, right, just thinking about the step,

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<v Speaker 1>not even even using just the idea of soap. The

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<v Speaker 1>soap is a symbol working on the human mind exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So um So those who didn't get to wash their hands,

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<v Speaker 1>basically they increase their value on their chosen option. And

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<v Speaker 1>again that's the cognitive dissonance. You're going to double down

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of adversity. And those who wash their hands,

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<v Speaker 1>the relative rankings of the two CDs remained about the same,

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<v Speaker 1>and their angst, they say, according to this was erased. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they did this again with jam. They had the

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<v Speaker 1>participants had to choose between two different jams that they

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<v Speaker 1>always used to be jams. And it's kind of jam

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<v Speaker 1>study or another jam study before. Okay, So instead of

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<v Speaker 1>washing their hands. We're talking about handwives considering the handwipes,

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<v Speaker 1>are using the handwipes. And again, uh, those people who

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<v Speaker 1>use the handwipes, they came back and they had a

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<v Speaker 1>more um pragmatic perspective about the jam. They didn't overrate

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<v Speaker 1>their experiences with the jams, whereas those people who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to wash their hands didn't have that clean slate

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<v Speaker 1>effect and and and kind of be able to wash

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<v Speaker 1>away their consternation. Yeah. I mean it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole idea of like taking a shower to cleanse

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<v Speaker 1>the soul as well as the body, that fresh flight

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<v Speaker 1>effect where you're like, all right, I'm all new, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well have you ever done that before when you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn something around in your mind, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>another perspective on it, and you're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's working here. I'm at a stop. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a shower and lo and behold, you come

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<v Speaker 1>out on the other side of that shower with new

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<v Speaker 1>ideas or a new perspective. Yeah. I think I do

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<v Speaker 1>some of my best thinking in the shower in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. Yeah, I don't know, but I'm assuming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. Yeah, well, I like sometimes I take too long,

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<v Speaker 1>like because someone just standing there hot water hit me

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. Ideas are running and it's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Your wife is like, hey man, you're running up the bill. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's also something to be said because it's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's before I have the coffee. And we've talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the past. I have a coffee focuses

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<v Speaker 1>the mind, but it cuts down on that unhinged random thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a hallmark of creativity. So I'm having the shower

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<v Speaker 1>before I have my coffee, So that would that's also

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm at my freshest then. And I also haven't

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<v Speaker 1>taken any coffee to rain in the wild stallions of

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<v Speaker 1>my imagination. I don't know why they're stallions. They're more now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really probably more like muskrats, the wild muskrats. Mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I preferred stallions. Stallions is a little overdoing it,

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<v Speaker 1>even I'm gonna be realistic about my creative abilities, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's got a nice like seventies shiny machen to it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's stop talking about stallion in the showers. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to clipboards. Because I love clipboards, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think every job I've ever had, I have kiddingly walked

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<v Speaker 1>around with the clipboard to pretend like I was doing something.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you really does make you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something. I still have my clipboard when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in newspapers here and I just use it for mundane

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<v Speaker 1>purposes now, like holding papers onto a board. But back

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<v Speaker 1>then I remembered it was like it was almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a scepter. Like if I had the clipboard, I felt like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am in control because I have this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>there's their papers on it and everything, well papers on

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<v Speaker 1>it and everything turns out to be important, but more

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<v Speaker 1>important in some of these studies is the actual weight

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing itself, and it turns out that that

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<v Speaker 1>weight is really important and that people will think about

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<v Speaker 1>their own self importance engage other aspects of the world

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with this weight. Yeah, we're looking at study

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<v Speaker 1>where people holding a clipboard that was weighted so as

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<v Speaker 1>to be heavier overestimated the value of foreign currencies by

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<v Speaker 1>any indicating how many euros they believe they would need

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<v Speaker 1>to pay exchange currencies. Yeah, and now they were given

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<v Speaker 1>these clipboards. The participants in the study, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>told to fill things out. Okay, so they had an activity.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't just holding and they weren't tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the Euros now, yeah, And they had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea whether or not theirs was heavier or lighter

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<v Speaker 1>than than other people in the study. Um. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was by the way published in psychological Science. Dr Josman

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<v Speaker 1>and his colleagues Daniel light Laken's and Thomas W. Schubert

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<v Speaker 1>explored this idea about the body conflating weight in importance.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were also asked to consider different countries and

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<v Speaker 1>their leadership. And then again those people who had heavier

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<v Speaker 1>clipboards and they really deliberated a lot more than the

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<v Speaker 1>people who had lighter clipboards, and they thought that their

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<v Speaker 1>opinion was more sought out than their their light clipboard counterparts. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know. And in our previous episode we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about symbols and the power of symbols and how they

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<v Speaker 1>affect our minds because we're just taking them in the

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<v Speaker 1>course of our day, and then in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of the clipboard, in the form of the coffee cut,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about symbols that we actually take into our

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<v Speaker 1>hand and in the sense make a part of our body.

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<v Speaker 1>And therefore we uh, we we wrap ourselves in the

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<v Speaker 1>trappings of the symbol. That's true, right, yeah, that's we're

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<v Speaker 1>saying all the other sort of trappings that we put

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<v Speaker 1>around us, that we hold, that we imbue with some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of value that gets taken up into our brains

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<v Speaker 1>and and it informs the way that we actually cogitate.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty cool stuff. And then we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>take a break, and when we get back, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this idea of paper dolls. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back, and uh, we're about to get into in

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<v Speaker 1>clothes cognition. You know, when I was telling Holly Fry

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<v Speaker 1>of History stuff what we were doing today, she just went, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, RuPaul has a thing on that group. Paul

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<v Speaker 1>is her spirit animal by the way, yeah, or her

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<v Speaker 1>spirit god. I shouldn't say animal, her spirit god. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh she said that he says everybody is born naked

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else's drag. Well, you know, modern cultural sociologist

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<v Speaker 1>described the human body as an unfinished body, a body

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<v Speaker 1>created by nature but finished by humans, and so each

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<v Speaker 1>of us calls up on various bodies various various times

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<v Speaker 1>throughout our lives. It's kind of like the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the cyboard, you know, where we're all cyboards because we're

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<v Speaker 1>all using technology, we're wearing it, or it's in our

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<v Speaker 1>body or it's some part of us. And clothing is

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<v Speaker 1>a part of us as well. The human body is

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<v Speaker 1>born unfinished. We finish it with our clothing and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the version of ourselves that we see well.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's an idea of these the paper dolls that

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<v Speaker 1>we just kind of put on these different outfits and

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<v Speaker 1>then we perform whatever aspects of it that we are

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<v Speaker 1>subconsciously or consciously thinking about in terms of how we

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<v Speaker 1>move around in the world. It's like a Barbie doll, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like there's the naked Barbie doll that is

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<v Speaker 1>just like flung around in the bathtub. But then they're

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<v Speaker 1>the outfit that transformed Barbie and all of these other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Astronaut Barbie. Yeah, it was there, just uh it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>there a Mars curiosity uh over Barbie something that recently

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<v Speaker 1>came out. But you know when she still looks like Barbie,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, and we've talked about her weird dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why, right, because she would topple over

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually fully formed Barbie with her, her current

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<v Speaker 1>dimensions would top over on Mars though. Good question, very

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Alright, So, um, the best example of the

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<v Speaker 1>cloth cognition because there are not many examples by the way, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is again a fairly new field of study. Examples.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we can sit here and sir rattle out

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotally all day long. Um, but I wanted to point

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<v Speaker 1>out three studies by Adam D. Glinsky. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>professor at the Kellogg School of Management or Western University,

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<v Speaker 1>and he presented his information in the Journal of Experimental

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<v Speaker 1>Social Psychology. Um. They also, yeah, they told coined the

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<v Speaker 1>term in cloth cognition. They did. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Glinsky got the idea for this from watching The Simpsons,

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<v Speaker 1>the TV show really Max Power No no, no. Um, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know which episode title it was, but basically

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<v Speaker 1>he was watching kids, all the kids school, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were outside and they were made to wear these gray

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<v Speaker 1>uniforms and they were very subdued and calm, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it began to rain and all of the dye came

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<v Speaker 1>off the uniforms and these rainbow colors emerged from their clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kids went bersark u and he said, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking about the clothes you wear in the

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<v Speaker 1>meaning behind this clothes. If you put on a black

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt, become more aggressive, you put on a nurse's uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>you become more helpful. And then he crafted these three

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<v Speaker 1>studies having to do with a lab coat. Huh. Well, again,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes down to the idea that that all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things have symbolic meaning, and the lab coat carries

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of symbolic meaning. You look at someone in

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<v Speaker 1>a lab coat, maybe holding a clipboard or some medical

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<v Speaker 1>instrument as well, and maybe other symbols that are combining

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<v Speaker 1>to create this kind of hyper cycle. But but there's

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that this is the person who's highly educated,

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<v Speaker 1>This is the person that I should trust on some level. Careful,

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<v Speaker 1>It is careful, attentive, attentive, that is clean and with

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<v Speaker 1>this us that one before though that kind of ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs on that one. It's clean and it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is going to potentially safe me. Yes, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is that's all embodied in this lab coade which Glinsky

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<v Speaker 1>and the researchers used in these three studies. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>Glinsky also wanted to to really hone in on is

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of our attention and how we direct it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we have talked about before directed detention is a

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<v Speaker 1>scarce and finite mental resource, um, and we we have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it in the context of ego depletion and

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of trying to game that the attention span

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<v Speaker 1>that we have. So what they did is they in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the studies, they use something called a Stroop test. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how they fared out people's ability to perform

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<v Speaker 1>on a concentration task while assuming or subconsciously assuming these

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<v Speaker 1>identities in this case the lab coat. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a stroop task, it's it's fairly easy straightforward

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a very visual task. You're asked to identify

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<v Speaker 1>or I should say it's very easy and straightforward to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're being asked to do, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>easy to do for your mind. Um, You're asked to

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<v Speaker 1>identify the color of the word represented in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you on a screen. The problem is that the word

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<v Speaker 1>says red, but the letters that spill it out are blue. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and your brain goes what, So what your brain has

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<v Speaker 1>to then do is sets out the meaning versus the

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<v Speaker 1>visual representation, and as a result, there's a fairly high

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<v Speaker 1>error rate here, So it's a great way of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to gauge someone's engagement or attention spam. Huh. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this test reminds me of the the awesome Internet

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<v Speaker 1>video Don't hug me, I'm scared. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>a children's show and they're singing about creativity and then

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a little dark and they agree never to

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<v Speaker 1>be creative again. But it's the part where they're talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you engage creativity, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you act creatively? Creatively? And how do you think creatively?

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<v Speaker 1>And the lead character of the singing Little Notebook says,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that you can do is you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of sticks and leaves and spell out your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite color, which is in a sense using using ground brown,

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<v Speaker 1>using green to spell out something like red. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they do this to children. Yeah, yeah, the strip

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<v Speaker 1>test with that exact video. And then they get to

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<v Speaker 1>the part where their void just takes them all down,

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<v Speaker 1>but until they start crying, it is interested. The one

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<v Speaker 1>character spells green with the green and brown sticks and

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<v Speaker 1>all and and that is ruled not a creative color.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a sense it isn't a creative color because

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<v Speaker 1>it's playing right into the dictation of the test. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's more to that part of the video than

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<v Speaker 1>I gave it credit previously. It's possible. It's possible, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great example of how your mind is having

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make sense of the visual representations as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to the word representation. And I really do think

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<v Speaker 1>they should do that with five year old and then

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<v Speaker 1>watch their brains melt um. I did want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out though, that this was this was the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 1>the first experiment, in which fifty eight undergraduates were randomly

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to wear a white lab coat or street clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and those who wore the white lab coats made about

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<v Speaker 1>half as many errors on incongruent trials as those who

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<v Speaker 1>wore regular clothes on the Stroop test. That's pretty impressive, right,

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, half as many just by wearing the coat.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second experiment, seventy four students were randomly assigned

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<v Speaker 1>to one of three options, wearing a doctor's coat, wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a painter's coat, which by the way, was the same

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<v Speaker 1>coat as the doctor's coat. They just called it the

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<v Speaker 1>pner's coat or seeing a doctor's coat. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>were giving given a test for sustained attention, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had to look at two very similar pictures side by

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<v Speaker 1>side on the screen and spot four minor differences, writing

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<v Speaker 1>them down as quickly as possible. So those who were

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor's coat, um, they found more differences than those

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<v Speaker 1>who were wearing the same coat that was called the

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>painter's coat, or those who were just wearing street clothes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the third experiment had students either wear the doctor's coat

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<v Speaker 1>or the painter's coat, and they were told to notice

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor's lab coat displayed on the desk in front

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<v Speaker 1>of them for for a long period of time, and

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<v Speaker 1>all three groups had to write essays about their thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and the coats, and then they were tested again for attention.

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out this group that were the doctor's code,

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<v Speaker 1>they showed the greatest improvement in attention. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>this mean. It means that they were embodying this cognition

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<v Speaker 1>of what it is to be a doctor and these

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<v Speaker 1>ideals of being attentive, of being well educated, of being

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<v Speaker 1>on point. Yeah, you put you step into the symbol,

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<v Speaker 1>you take it on yourself and you you you then

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<v Speaker 1>appear as that symbol and then you were thinking as

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<v Speaker 1>that symbol as well. You're taking on the guys of

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor, even if you're not actually thinking, Hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a doctor's coat. Now, how bet I can go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and perform surgery? Well, And this is what

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting about the study is that it begins to

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<v Speaker 1>to question, like, what are their aspects of our culture

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>are bringing up these ideas and having us fall in line.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think about police uniforms or inmate of forms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the inmate uniform sends the signal that you are just

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else, You're just a number. And also you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to stand out if you if you go, if

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<v Speaker 1>you escape from here, you're stripped of your identity right like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only you're taking from from the rights that you

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<v Speaker 1>had as someone in the outside world who could cook

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you wanted for breakfast, go wherever you wanted. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the inside and you can't even express yourself

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<v Speaker 1>as an individual. Uh. Someone who is a police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he or she has these these colors, these darker,

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<v Speaker 1>very serious colors. Yeah, the gleaming badgement to enforce this

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>idea of uh, you know, security in order. And then

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>there are nuns. Yes, how do you explain nuns? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in one sense of the uniform, I mean in the

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<v Speaker 1>y of the habit, well, you do get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, darkness and light, very very somber outfit,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, masking a lot of the body and creating

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of Penglin like demeanor. And they're veiled. They

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<v Speaker 1>are brides of Jesus, right, the brides. So um again,

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff going on to sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>operate as these underpinnings of how we perceive the world

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and how we move around in it. Um. I feel

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 1>like all of these symbols, though there's there's also a

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>counter interpretation of the symbol, Like the cops uniform for

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>many people becomes a symbol of tyranny and abusive power.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>The symbol of the doctor can also become a symbol

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>of bad news, a symbol of of being taken advantage of,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>or you know, or certainly a symbol of of of

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>privilege to and privileged power. Yeah. I was thinking about

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this in terms of Dr Leo Spaceman. Yes, gemin Drm

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>from thirty Rock who is the ridiculous doctor who shouldn't

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.719
<v Speaker 1>at all be a doctor, And but he's wearing the

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<v Speaker 1>coat at all times, and then he's spewing nonsense and

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>everybody just sort of goes, Okay, it looks like a doctor.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's he's has a nice speaking voice, even though

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>everything he's saying it's complete garbage, complete garbage. And I

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>think that they're making some sort of comment on that,

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>like just put it, you know, a doctor's lab coat

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>on someone and immediately they have authority on all things.

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.959
<v Speaker 1>Now a more relatable thing that I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>all point to in our own life, like what do

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you feel like when you dress up fancy? Do you

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>ever fancy yourself up awkward like heels are or the

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>devil stilts? Yeah? H now do you? But do you

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 1>ever not you're not wearing the heels that do you

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>ever feel like you ever dress fancy and feel fancy

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in any way? Like? Is there ever a positive connotation

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to that? I don't know. I mean, just don't dress

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>fancy that often. So I'm pretty comfortable in my skin.

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>So if I decided to put something fancy on, it's fine,

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's not I don't go around like pretending like

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got a really long like cigarette holder or anything. Well,

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>how about this, um, what do you wear when you

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 1>go to yoga? You have a special garments you wear

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>just for yoga, A long velvet dress might Stevie next dress.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But you do have like yoga pants or something. Yes, okay,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>So when you wear the yoga pants even before you

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>go to yoga, or if you're wearing them when you're

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to yoga, do you find yourself sort of

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>entering the mindset of one who goes to yoga. I

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>feel stretchy, Sure, yeah, I feel flexible. I'm more open

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to people. You know, I don't know. I might be

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>well because I kind of feel that way. I feel

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like if I'm if I'm wearing yoga pants, even if

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to yoga, I do feel a little

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>more relaxed. I think it wears off of me, you know.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>M I always remember my dad coming home from work

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and coming home from his like very serious suit. We're

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about a vest with his suit and suspenders, all

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the accouterments of business life and shedding that as soon

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>as he came home, taking a shower and then coming

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>out in in all of his like you know, cotton

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>um leisure ware, I guess you call it. And it

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was so funny because it was that transformation from day

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to evening. Yeah, so I guess there is a bit

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of that role playing going on. Yeah. Well, like I said,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>we could set here and rattle off possible examples of

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>this all all all day long about how we wear

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>something different makes It's like what happens when you wear uh,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, ceremonial dark robes with pentagrams on them. You

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>feel a little more in touch with occult phenomena and

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>U and the secrets and mysteries of life. It maybe

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to try to have and see you

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>think about the next time you dress up for occult ritual. Well,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to, uh, just swing this little ditty by everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from the Stanford Encyclopedia Philosophy about embodied cognition.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, quote, the genuine insight about the nature of

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>consciousness that embodied cognitive science has generated is that the

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 1>character of visual experience results from the way we are

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>dynamically hooked up to the world. Since for a motor

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>coupling with the environment is crucial in providing the organism

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<v Speaker 1>with the pro pre aceptive kinesthetic feedback necessary for the

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<v Speaker 1>senses of ownership and movement. When we touch an object,

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>for example, we do not exclusively have experience of it,

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>but while touching and being touched, we experience ourselves moving,

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<v Speaker 1>including the feeling of controlling our own body and action.

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>The account of that agency, the sense of controlling one's

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>body originates and processes that evolve for interaction with the environment,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that is, mechanisms for sensory processing and motor control, suggests

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that embodied experience underpins self awareness. And I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>that in the context of the lab code. If you

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>feel the texture and the weight of that clothing, that

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you begin to transform it into your actual motor skills,

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>your cognitive skills, and truly embody it. Yeah, very cool.

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just comes down to this fact that

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>we are the cloth. The clothing makes the man. The

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>clients they say, you know, the clothing is a part

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of who we are and how we interface with the world. Now,

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>one quick example we forgot to mention is it is

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween for Halloween, to what extent do we end up

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<v Speaker 1>taking on the the the mental image of the thing

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that we are dressing up as like what were you

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>for Halloween? Most recently, I really don't like to dress

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>up for Halloween. But then I think it's because miss

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>my costumes have been a failure. But last time it

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>was a fifties housewife with like a fake turkey in

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>barbiturates that was strapped to me. That's pretty good. I

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, you well, at some point recently I

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>dressed up as a as a cop. Because this is

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>several years ago, but my wife and I dressed up

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>as the main character from Raising her Own Oh yeah,

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>so but I'm glad that she was a cop. Sorry,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>she was a cop, and I was a a bank

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Robert with a panty on my head, you know. So,

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>so I guess you know, when I dressed up is

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that character. I kind of had to feel a little

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>bit like that character. So I felt good natured and

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little goofy and suffocated, Yeah, and suffocated and

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>prone to um, you know, robbing liquor stores and a

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>new appreciation for pantyhose and in the trials and tribulations

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of that. Yeah. Alright, some some food for thought as

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>we move into this fall season and we in character Halloween.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Pretty soon. Yeah. Again, keep all this in mind as

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<v Speaker 1>you dress up for costume party, as you dress up

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for your daily life, because we'd love to hear about you.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Is there a uniform that you have to wear, it

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>being an official uniform or sort of an unofficial uniform,

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>because like I remember, when I was working a newspaper,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the unofficial uniform I had to wear with this like

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>awful khaki pants, like the kind of balloon up in

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the crotch whenever you sit down. Those are awful, and

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>uh that it was. It became a part of how

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt about myself while I was working there. So

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.959
<v Speaker 1>so what kind of uniform do you wear? What kind

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of uniform are you forced to wear? And then what

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of clothing do you wear to change the way

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