1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Linda from the Handity Show here. And 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: as you know, Sean and I never promote the stock 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: market or investing in it, but I'm sure you've all 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: seen the great GDP numbers, the awesome economy that Donald 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Trump is giving us, and we want you to benefit 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: from it as well. So now we've discovered doctor Richard 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Smith his incredible financial software tools. They're trusted by thousands. 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: It tracks over twenty billion dollars of investments. And if 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: you're planning for your retirement, you have any money at 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: all invested in the stock market, you need to go 11 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: to Handity dot com forward slash retirement right now. Check 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: it out, Hannity dot com Retirement. All right, Happy Friday, 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: and yes we made it, and glad you are with 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: us eight hundred and nine for one, Sean, if you 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: want to be a part of this Friday extravagans. A 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of news to get to today. I thought Bill 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Hemmer's interview with the Attorney General bar is it is. 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: It is everything that we've said and it is all 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: going to be done. We're going to get to justice. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't, by the way, I don't take a lot 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: of joy and the fact that there are people that 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: are likely facing jail time for the things that they 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: they have done. Here, hang on, I gotta send a text. 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: All right, there you go, so I but it's not 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the ninety nine point nine percent. We got to remember that, 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: you know something, Occasionally you get these stories about a 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: bad cop. I remember the first person that used that 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: term was Joe Degeneva. Dirty cops. I remember like flinching 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: at the term, because you don't want to think about 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 1: people in the highest levels of power abusing that power, 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: corrupting the awesome responsibility that we give them, or people 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: in the intelligence community, you know, turning those powerful weapons 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: that we need in an ugly and dangerous and evil 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: world against us. You don't want that happening. And it 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: has happened, and the Attorney General laid it out today 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: what happened. We're gonna go over a lot of what 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: he said, and I'm gonna sort of talk around a 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: few of these things because I think it's that important 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: this interview. I thought Bill Hammer did a phenomenal job. 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: My colleague at the Fox News Channel, all credit to him, 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: and he was nice enough even to come on the 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: air with us last night before we get to that. 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: We gotta welcome. So Ethan had the baby. Well, no, 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Ethan didn't have Ethan's wife had the baby. What time, Jacon, 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: About four thirty this morning or thirty five in the morning. 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: And it is that the dad name? I think the 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: name is still being bandied about. I have not been 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get any I've been texting. He doesn't write 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: me back. I'm like, geez, I haven't decided on a name. 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: They're still deciding. They're still deciding. Okay, but mother and 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: baby are healthy and everything went well and doing well. 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: They're doing well. So we have another member of the 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Hannity crew. We're very excited for the new bundle of joy, 54 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I know, and Linda's getting her big reward next week. 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: So we're really happy about that. We're so proud of her. 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Really fun to be on the West coast. Yeah, it's exciting. 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk more about that when she gets back. 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: All right, let me go to bar I mean, it's 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: like one thing after another that he's saying here is 60 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: it takes your breath away. We have a long two 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: minute montage that Jason put together, and I think I 62 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: want to start with that. Jason and because if you're 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: paying attention, and this goes to the heart of what 64 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I never understood. I always like Jeff Sessions, and I 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know where he was for all of this, and 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: that became problematic. All right, let's listen to the Attorney General, 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: William barn Fox. How do you think John Brennan and 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: James Clapper handled the Russian investigation? Well, again, I don't 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: want to speculate about the facts at this point at all. 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I know some facts, but it's premature to be discussing. 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Can you tell what the Steele dossier had to do 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: with this? What role did that play? Well, that's one 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: of the questions, you know that we're going to have 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: to look at it. It's a very unusual situation to 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: have opposition research like that, especially one that on its 76 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: face had a number of clear mistakes and a somewhat 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Jejune analysis, and to use that to get to conduct 78 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: counterintelligence against an American political campaign is a strange would 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: be a strange development. I'm not sure what role it played, 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: but that's something we have to look at. Do you 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: smell a rat in this at this point, I don't 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: know if I described a rat, I would just say 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: that the you know, the answers I'm getting are not sufficient. 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that, Republicans have said for 85 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: months that these men, Brennan, Clapper, maybe James Comey had 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: it in for Trump. Do you think that's true? Again, 87 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spec late about their motives. In 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the period of time between election day and the inauguration, 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: did anyone in government or in intelligence did they take 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: action to justify their decisions between election day? Did you 91 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: say between election day of two thousand and sixteen in 92 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: November and inauguration day? I think there were some very 93 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: strange developments during that period. That's one of the things 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: we want to look into, such as such as the 95 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: handling of the meeting on January sixth between the intelligence 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: chiefs and the president and the leaking of information subsequent 97 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: to that meeting. Was that meeting in New York City? Yes? 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: In Trump Tower? Yes? What questions do you have about 99 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: what happened that day? Again, I'm not going to get 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: into into that, but it's on your mind. That's one 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: of the things we need to look at. Can you 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: characterize how far advanced you are in understanding that meeting? 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: We're still in the stage of gathering all the information. 104 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Now we knew yesterday. This is what's pretty pasted. There 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: was suspicions according to Jim Baker, James Baker, the General Council. 106 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, I can't figure out James Baker. I don't 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: know what to think. And I know there's a criminal 108 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: referral on him, But he was the one guy that 109 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: knew the law. He was the top lawyer for the 110 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: FBI under call me that said, yeah, Hillary broke the law. Here, 111 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: why are we arguing about this? And he basically was 112 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: surrounded and overruled by his top colleagues. And so that's 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: interesting to me. And also they were he said, they 114 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: were very concerned that that meeting that the Attorney General 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: was talking about Barr at Trump Tower. Now this is 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: the warning meeting. Well, there was a dossier out there 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: and it's salacious, but it's unverified. And the thought among 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Baker and others were, oh, my gosh, James Colemey is 119 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: trying to blackmail the president and hold something over the 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: president's head. Now in the course and this does it 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: makes sense because, for example, why if they thought there 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: might be some collusion in the Trump campaign with Russia. 123 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: At what point did they not think that, well, we 124 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: don't have any reason to believe Donald Trump has ever 125 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: colluded with Russia. Well maybe we need to give him 126 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: a heads up and maybe you'll work with us. That 127 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: never occurred to them, or the fact that, Okay, Donald 128 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Trump never came from the political world. He was a businessman. 129 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: He didn't hold any office before this. Now, I knew 130 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump for twenty some odd years, and I guarantee 131 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you every time he'd hire somebody, you're my guy, right, 132 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: all right, I got you. I'm counting on you. Get this, 133 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: get this building put up, get this done. I need 134 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: this done by this. That's that's how he rolled in 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: that world. So when he says to call me, all right, 136 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: you're my guy. Right, we're gonna we're working together. We're 137 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: on a team here, call me. Could have just genterally 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: said it's a little different than in the private sector 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: and broke it down. But no, he didn't want that. 140 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: You know, he felt the need, the compulsion to write 141 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: down notes after he left that meeting. But the problem 142 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: is what he told then president elect Trump in January 143 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen, before he became president, before he was 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: sworn in that the dossier selatious and unverified. Now, the 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: biggest problem with that is in October before the election, 146 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: James Comey's name is right there on the verified It 147 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: says it right on the FISA application. Newness, Grassley Graham 148 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: memos all say the bulk of that information is the 149 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: bought and paid for perhaps New York Times is right, 150 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation of Hillary Clinton. So he's verifying it in 151 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: October of twenty sixteen. So you want to talk about 152 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: the strange period in between that Barr is acknowledging exists 153 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the Attorney General. Yeah, that's strange because if you've if 154 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: you put in a FISA application that is a warrant 155 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: to spy on an American citizen, and you're putting in 156 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: their information that wasn't verified, never corroborated. Now in retrospect, 157 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: we know unverifiable as its own author when push came 158 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: to shove under oath under the threat of perjury in 159 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: an interrogatory in Great Britain, I have no idea if 160 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: any of this is true. It became the basis of 161 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,479 Speaker 1: a document that our FBI directors signed as verified and corroborated, 162 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: and they purposely withheld where it came from. And we've 163 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: learned in the last few weeks that everybody, including come 164 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: by the way, even Andrew Weissman, that Bruce or and 165 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: his closed door testimony warned everybody it's unverified. Clinton paid 166 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: for its steel hates Trump, be careful. I was August 167 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: at twenty sixteen, and then, of course, ten days we 168 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: learned from John Solomon's reporting, this woman at the State 169 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Department met with Steele, said Steele has a deadline. His 170 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: deadline was election day and he's trying to get dirt 171 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump in the statement. And then she warns 172 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the f She did the right thing, warning the FBI. 173 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: So that's ten days before Comey puts that signature on 174 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the phis A ward. Then in January, Oh it's unverified. Yeah, 175 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: that sounds strange. That sounds like the Attorney General gets it. 176 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: And when we get to the bottom of it, Wow, 177 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: think about this, They would not tell phis A court 178 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: judges and a pis application to spy on an American 179 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: citizen carter Page. But more importantly, carter Page has never 180 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: been charged with anything because a matter of fact, carter Pages, 181 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: he has said in interviews right here on the show, 182 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, part of his work caused him to travel abroad, 183 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: and as he traveled abroad, he would go to countries 184 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: like Russia. But he had such a good relation chip 185 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: with our intel community, and he is an American patriot 186 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: that when he came back and the government wanted to 187 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: debrief him, he willingly sat and had what gave whatever 188 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: answers they wanted to help and assist his country. Never 189 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: he's never been He sat down once formula. That was 190 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: the end of that. He wasn't the time. They used 191 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: that as a ruse to get into the Trump campaign 192 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: and spy, and they did it in a multitude of 193 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: other ways. Now we know. Now we know that Stefan 194 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Helper was spying on Papadopoulis, who was spying you know, 195 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: also Wet. We even have the blonde bombshell flirt in 196 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: this novel that showed up apparently flirting with Popidopolis to 197 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: get information you can't make You can't even write a 198 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: novel like this, you know, and then you get it. 199 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: And Sam Clovis and Carter Paige, So that all went 200 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: down the multiple entries if spying here, you know, comey 201 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: saying we didn't spy, Well, what is a FISA application, 202 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: But it's a warrant to spy. And I don't know 203 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: why they think that they're going to get away with this, 204 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: never mind the fact that you have this whole the 205 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: same group of people with all the evidence you'd ever 206 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: want in terms of violating the Espionage Act. And Hillary Clinton, 207 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: they all did everything they could do to get her 208 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: off and rig that investigation. But by doing the spying 209 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: and doing the doing this FISA and paying for the 210 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: steel crap that they used to deny civil liberties to people, 211 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're doing all of this stuff to rig 212 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: an election after they rigged the investigation to save the 213 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: favored candidate to beat the candidate that wasn't favored, and 214 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: then a light of that candidate, Oh no, it's not verified. 215 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Months later, meanwhile, a second FISA warrant application have been 216 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: approved in the interim after re up those every three months, 217 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: and then try to bludgeon in with an insurance policy. 218 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: Which is this whole fake, fraudulent conspiracy on an hoax 219 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: because it's just the opposite seems to be true. That's 220 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: why I call it the biggest abuse of power corruption 221 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: scandal in American history and it's only as we go 222 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: through some more of these cuts. And then we've got 223 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett Allen Dershwitz, and then we've got Scott Ullinger 224 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: coming on today, retired CIA OPS officer and Russian intel 225 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: opts expert. You know, everybody knew Russia did this. They've 226 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: done it to so many other countries. They've done it 227 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: to us in the past. Devin Noon has put out 228 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: an article in the Washington either the Times of the 229 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Examiner and Forget Now in twenty fourteen warning Russia would 230 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: do this. We know Putin's a hostile actor, but it's 231 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: better to get along with him. And you know, the 232 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: best way to take Russia down to his knees is 233 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: keep producing more energy. That's that it is the heart 234 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: and soul of that economy, and get it cheaply to 235 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: our allies in Western Europe and around the world. And 236 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: for the first time in seventy five years, we are 237 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: energy independent and now a net exporter of energy. All 238 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: I gotta take a break. We'll come back a lot 239 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: to get to here. This is it's all coming clearer 240 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: every day, and I'm hearing yeah that horrowits investigation, maybe 241 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: as early as next week. What's up, everybody. Linda from 242 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the show on Hannity Show here to talk about your money. Retirement. 243 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: Your money. It's like your health, right you know, you 244 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: don't think about it until you don't have it. And 245 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people are making really bad mistakes, especially 246 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: with their retirement. They're not retiring with enough money. You 247 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: know what, It's just wrong. But have no fear meet 248 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible financial minds in America, doctor 249 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Richard Smith. And Richard's extraordinary tools are trusted by thousands 250 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: of Americans at tracts of twenty billion dollars in the 251 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: stock market, and his tools can help you reset your retirement. 252 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: You're going to be hearing a lot from Sean and 253 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: Me about Richard and literally we have never endorsed any 254 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: financial software tool until now. Why because we've never seen 255 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: anything like this before. So see it for yourself. Go 256 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: to Hannity dot com Retirement. That's Hannity dot com forward 257 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: slash retirement. Check it out. Well. The first step is 258 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: find out exactly what happened, and we're trying to get 259 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: our arms around that, getting all the relevant information from 260 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the various agencies and starting to talk to some of 261 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: the people that have information. You know. The thing that's 262 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: interesting about this is that this was handled at a 263 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: very senior level of these departments. It wasn't handled in 264 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: the ordinary way that investigations or counterintelligence activities are conducted. 265 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: It was sort of an ad hoc small group, and 266 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: most of these people are no longer with the FBI 267 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: or the CIA or the other agencies involved. This appears 268 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: to run deep. Why is it so hard to figure out? Well, 269 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: there are two things here. One, no one's really looked 270 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: at it. I think there's a misconception out there that 271 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: we know a lot about what happened. The fact of 272 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: the matter is Bob Muller did not look at the 273 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: government's activities. He was looking at the whether or not 274 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians, but he 275 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: was not going back and looking at the counterintelligence program. 276 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: And we have a number of investigations underway that touch 277 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: upon it, the main one being the Office of Inspector 278 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: General that's looking at the FISA warrants. But as far 279 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: as I'm aware, no one has really looked across the 280 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: whole waterfront. Nobody has looked across the entire waterfront, and 281 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: Muller did not look at what the inner workings were. Now, 282 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: the problem is that Muller had a broad mandate, and 283 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: the broad mandate entitled him what time will we out 284 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: Jacy own. I'll explain this On the other side, the 285 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: mandate was brought enough to look at taxi medallion's taxes 286 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: and loan applications. Why not the Dacier and FISA. Hey guys, 287 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: it's Linda, the executive producer for the Sean Hannity Show. 288 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: You might also know me as Shaun's daily sparring partner, 289 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: and now that he's a ninja, of course, and every 290 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: day we argue about all sorts of things and talk 291 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: about lots of stuff, including the incredible economy that the 292 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: President has given everyday Americans. And just like that, we 293 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: we want to tell you about how to fight for 294 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: your retirement. And that's right. Fight. There's a huge crisis 295 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: in America. Millions of people are retiring and without enough money. 296 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: And if that's not shocking enough, even if you think 297 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: you've got your financial act together, chances are there a 298 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: retirement killers out there that you don't know anything about. 299 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: So have no fear. We have one of the brightest 300 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: financial minds in America to help make sure your investments 301 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: for your future retirement are on the right track. I'm 302 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: talking about doctor Richard Smith, the founder of Trade Smith, 303 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: and his mission is to help Americans be more financially literate. 304 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: That's right. Put the power, put the knowledge back in 305 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: your hands. Make better investment decisions, and avoid catastrophic mistakes 306 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: that could cause your retirement to be a disaster. That 307 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: could cause your retirement to be a disaster. Thousands and 308 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: thousands of people trust doctor Smith's investment tools to track 309 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: over twenty billion dollars in the stock market, and I'm 310 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: telling you you should too. When we're talking about your retirement. 311 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: You're in a financial fight for your future. Please do 312 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: yourself a favor of folks. Register right now for doctor 313 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: Smith's special online event, the Great Retirement resett Go to 314 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com forward slash retirement. That's Hannity dot com 315 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: forward slash retirement. Eliminate the stress, eliminate the worry of 316 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: investing in the stock market. Register now Handity now dot 317 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: com Forward slash retirement A right twenty five to the 318 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: top of the hour. I want to go back as 319 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: these comments by the Attorney General William Barr about Robert Muller, 320 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: and I want to go through a few more of 321 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: these cuts and really delve deep into what he is 322 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: saying and suggesting here, because there's keywords in this that 323 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to. And just this was 324 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: from this morning his interview with Bill Himmer. You also 325 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: said back in April that you thought there spying going 326 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: on the Trump campaign. When do you think that started? Well, 327 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speculate about when it started. We're 328 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: going to find out when it started. It's been said 329 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: that it was July of two thy sixteen. Does that 330 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: sound right to you? Again, I don't want to speculate. 331 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: What I will say is that you know, I've been 332 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: trying to get answers to questions, and I found that 333 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the answers have been inadequate. And I've 334 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: also found that some of the explanations I've gotten don't 335 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: hang together. So in a sense, I have more questions 336 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: today than I did when I first start. Some of 337 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: what things don't hang together, some of the explanations of 338 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: what occurred. Why does that matter? Well, because I think 339 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: people have to find out what the government was doing 340 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: during that period. If we're worried about foreign influence for 341 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: the very same reason we should be worried about whether 342 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: government officials abuse their power and put their thumb on 343 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: the scale. And so I'm not saying that happened, but 344 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying that we have to look at that. Wow, 345 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: what he's saying here is did they put their thumb 346 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: on the scale? Muller didn't look into this, but he 347 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: had the broadest mandate as it relates to Russian dossier 348 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: that was used to spy on an opposition party candidate. 349 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: You know, he's saying it without saying it, and the 350 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: answers have been inadequate, and the explanations don't band together. 351 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: And he's right, he sees much more than he's letting on, obviously. 352 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: And I actually think these comments by Joe Degeneva really 353 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: should be paid very close attention to. We'll go to 354 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: cut nine Jason, because he says Harrowitz has already concluded 355 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: meaning the IQ, and what that means is I'm sure 356 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: that he is told the Attorney General what he's been 357 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: working on and what he's found. Remember, Harowitz did an 358 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: extensive job. He found the page struck text that nobody 359 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: else would give us and This is so clear cut 360 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: that the FISA judges were misled and that that is 361 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: an abuse of power, that they literally premeditated a what 362 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: is a fraud on the court for the purposes of 363 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: spying on an opposition party candidate in the hopes of 364 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: influencing an election, extraordinarily dangerous. Here's what de Jennevit says 365 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: has happened happening now. Harowitz has already concluded that the 366 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: final three FISES were completely illegal. He's now on the 367 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: brink of finding that the first FISA was completely illegal. 368 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Durham has already used a grand jury in Connecticut. They've 369 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: already gotten documents. He's already talked to the Intel people. 370 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: How long has this been going on? Do we really know? 371 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: Durham's been working for a couple of months. So the 372 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: bottom line is this, This is now big time. This 373 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: is where Brennan needs five lawyers. Lawyer, are they lawyered 374 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: up sufficiently? Well? I hope Comy has someone other than 375 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: mister Richmond to whom he leaked his memos. That is 376 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: profound and deep. Also, and I think the fact that 377 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Mueller had the opportunity to look into all this now 378 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: we made time for Ukraine in the eighties or nineties whenever, 379 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: and issues with them that had nothing to do with 380 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Paul Manifort's time with the President. He made time to 381 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: look into financial taxi medallion issues involving Michael Kohane and 382 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: loan applications for both men. And you know he had 383 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: time to go over people's taxes, I mean going back decades, 384 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: which is fine. And the mandate was brought up boy 385 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: in your investigating some type of Russian election issue to 386 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: ignore the dirty Dosier it was known it was dirty. 387 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Is inexplicable to me, which is why I don't think 388 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: Muller ultimately testifies. You know that are saying that bar 389 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: will face a lawsuit if Congress holds him in contempt. 390 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous. They're asking the Attorney General to 391 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: break the law and reveal cran jury testimony. It's only 392 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: one full sentence and seven partial sentences that are redacted 393 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: for people like Nadler. It's a show. It's a circus. 394 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: It is if you know, we're gonna get the Sergeant 395 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: of Arms to handcuff the Attorney General of the United 396 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: States for not breaking the law, for refusing your order 397 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: to break the law and your lawmakers, and of course 398 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: they don't want to question the Attorney General themselves. They 399 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: want to take a two hundred and six year history 400 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: and precedent of only members that I are elected and 401 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: accountable to the voters. We want to we want lawyers 402 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: to question you. They don't have a don't for confidence. 403 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I guess in their abilities. Let's go back to Barr. 404 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: Answers to my questions have been inadequate. We have to 405 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: see if government officials abuse power. Let's play this. You 406 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: also said back in April that you thought there spying 407 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: going on the Trump campaign. When do you think that started? Well, 408 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speculate about when it started. We're 409 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: going to find out when it started. It's been said 410 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: that it was July of two thousand and sixteen. Does 411 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: that sound right to you? Again, I don't want to speculate. 412 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: What I will say is that you know, I've been 413 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: trying to get answers to questions, and I found that 414 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the answers have been inadequate. And I've 415 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: also found that some of the explanations I've gotten don't 416 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: hang together. So in a sense, I have more questions 417 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: today than I did when I first start some of 418 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: what things don't hang together, some of the explanations of 419 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: what occurred. Why does that matter, Well, because I think 420 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: people have to find out what the government was doing 421 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: during that period if we're if we're worried about foreign 422 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: influence for the very same reason, we should be worried 423 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: about whether government officials abuse their power and put their 424 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: thumb on the scale. And so I'm not saying that happened, 425 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that we have to look at that. 426 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, she believes you lied under oath. What do 427 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: you think of that charge? Well, I think it's a 428 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: laughable charge, and I think it's largely being made to 429 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: try to discredit me, partly because they may be concerned 430 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: about the outcome of a review of what happened during 431 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: the election. But obviously you can look at the face 432 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: of my testimony, Nancy, on its face that there's nothing 433 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: inaccurate about it, nothing inaccurate about it. But again that's 434 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: another The media can't let go of their lie either, 435 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, understand for them to admit that they have 436 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: peddled in anonymous sources, lies, conspiracies, conspiracy theories, and an 437 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: ultimate hoax while missing the biggest story of their careers. 438 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: That's too much for a news organization to actually admit 439 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: that they screwed up and screwed up that badly, you 440 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: know it is. It's that severe what is going on here. 441 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: And now it's all whether the media or the Democrats 442 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: want to admit this or not. Muller's done. The Attorney 443 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: General has said so. And the only thing that remains 444 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: here is all this story that we've told you that 445 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: has real evidence, rigging an investigation into a presidential candidate 446 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: that's favored, trying using phony, unverified one candidates, Russian disinformation 447 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: to literally as the basis to spy committing a huge 448 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: fraud on a FISA court and PISO court judges again 449 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: to influence the election, and then to try and bludgeon 450 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: a candidate with lies and conspiracies after an election because 451 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: they didn't want to be caught. That's why I can't 452 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: understand why they're all talking now. This is bar talking 453 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: about Trump wanting to remove someone because of conflicts of 454 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: interest is not obstruction. I remember the underlying crime of collusion, 455 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: conspiracy Russia, Russia. The Muller report is clear there has 456 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: to be some intent and the idea that the President 457 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: somehow by complaining about Rod Rosenstein publicly and proclaiming his 458 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: innocence or proclaim or you know, showing frustration over two 459 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: plus years of NonStop interference in the job he wants 460 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: to do and was hired to do, is normal. Trey 461 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: Gaudy famously asked, well, you know, if you're innocent, act 462 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: like you're innocent. How to innocent people act? I think 463 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: they act with outrage that they're being accused of something 464 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: they didn't do. That's how I think they would act. 465 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: That's how I think I would act. Anyway, Let me 466 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: get to if I can. This is what Barr is saying. 467 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: The President saying that publicly because he's innocent. If Muller 468 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: would have been fired, he would but the President had 469 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: all the authority to fire him under Article two. But 470 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: there would have been another special counsel appointed. There was 471 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: no stopping that, and the President expressed frustration. But let 472 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: him do his job anyway. Listen to what parcel. That's 473 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: a misconception. He was not asked to change his testimony. 474 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: That was a reaction to a press story in The 475 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: New York Times that claimed that Trump had told him 476 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: to fire Muller and that Trump and this I'm just 477 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: going by what the report said. I'm not arguing the case, 478 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: but Trump was mad at the word fire and claimed 479 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: he never directed began to fire Muller. And in fact, 480 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: elsewhere the report does say that McGann was told by 481 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: Trump to talk to Rosenstein to complain about conflicts of 482 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: interest that Mueller had and have Muller removed for conflicts 483 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: of interest. And there's a difference because if he removed 484 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: someone for a conflict of interest, presumably someone else is 485 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: going to be put in to continue the investigation. And 486 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: what Trump was being accused of in the New York 487 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: Times it was just outright directing the firing of Muller. Wow, 488 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: now there were conflicts with Muller. Remember the day before 489 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Muller was appointed by Rod Rosenstein to be the special counsel. Well, 490 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: he wanted the FBI job and Trump said no. Then 491 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: they had some conflict in the past. So Trump's looking 492 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: at this team of his pitbull, Andrew Weisman, all the 493 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: Democratic donors, no Republican donors, even hired Jeanie Ray who 494 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: worked for Clinton on the Clinton Foundation. No wonder why 495 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: they didn't touch the dirty Clinton, Russian paid for dossier, 496 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: so that's that would be and they would have been 497 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: someone else appointed not like it? What but the media 498 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: was like, that's gonna be a Saturday night massacre. Then, 499 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting to watch when Barr says he's 500 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: okay with Muller testifying, because I don't think Muller wants 501 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: to testify, because in spite of what the media thinks 502 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna get out of this, he's gonna have to 503 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: also answer a whole series of other questions. When did 504 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: he know about that there was no collusion or conspiracy 505 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: to collude or whatever. When did you Why did you 506 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: hire only Democrats? Why did you hire as your pitbull 507 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman, who's record we've gone over repeatedly. Why did 508 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: you not investigate the dossier? Why did you Russia related? 509 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: How the New York Times is calling it Russian disinformation? 510 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: And those that signed the fies of warrants and then 511 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: would have led to fies of fraud. I think those 512 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: are But Bar said he's fine with Muller testifying. You're 513 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: okay with him testifying? Absolutely he works for you? Yes 514 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: or under you? Yes? Or did what seems to be 515 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: the hold up. Jerry Nadler said this week it will 516 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: happen soon. Perhaps it happens in June or not. Do 517 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: you have any information on that. My understanding it is 518 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: that chairman of Nadler is talking this over with Bob 519 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Muller and his staff and trying to schedule it, so 520 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: you expected to happen. I have no reason to think 521 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: it won't. Okay, I have no reason to think it won't. 522 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Muller wants to him. By 523 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: the way, I think there are issues of executive privilege 524 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: that can be evoked by Trump. Now. He acknowledged that 525 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: he joked with Pelosi about handcuffs, But I just thought 526 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: was funny because that's all they've been talking about, sending 527 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: the sergeant at arms handcuff the attorney general make him testify. Listen. 528 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: You reportedly had conversation with her this week. Yes, what 529 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: did you say to her? I wouldn't call it a conversation. 530 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: It was more like an icebreaker. I was introduced and 531 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: I asked her if she had brought her handcuffs with her, 532 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: and she said I didn't really quite hear what she said, 533 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: but she wasn't unpleasant about it. It wasn't unpleasant about it. 534 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: I think, come on, that's that is hilarious. Jose that 535 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: he has a sense of humor, which you gotta like, 536 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: especially because everyone's trying to destroy him, which he had 537 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: to know was going to happen anyway. And he talks 538 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: about why are Democrats annoyed that they didn't have a 539 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: chance to spend the Mulla Report findings? This is a 540 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: great answer, short, but it's great which she will say, 541 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 1: and Democrats will say, is that you were spinning on 542 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: behalf of the president with the principal conclusions that you released. 543 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: They level charges that you held back the Mulla Report 544 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: for several weeks. Were you spinning for the White House 545 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: to buy some time? No, I wasn't. I think what 546 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: they're really perhaps annoyed about, is that they didn't have 547 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity, nay, to spin, and that the fundamental findings 548 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: of the report were out there for everybody to see. Uh, 549 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: and they were not in a position to spin because 550 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: he released the whole report. I mean, that's what makes 551 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: this so profound and for the you know, for the 552 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: Nadlers and the shifts of the world. The only guy 553 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: we have on tape colluding with Russia? Is the cowardly shift? Uh? Bus, 554 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: Yes there is uh? And what is the damaging compromising 555 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: information on Trump? A naked Trump, naked picked the Trump 556 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: up and as Vladimir seeing it, Yes, but of course 557 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Vladim miss seeing the naked Tump naked Tump. Okay, what 558 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: did he want to do in that poop conversation? I 559 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: mean the irony of this Hillary's bought and paid for 560 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: Russian dossier, the cowardly shifts conversation, colluding with a Russian 561 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: You can't make it up, but it's all too dangerous. 562 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: But the first step that is trying to have exactly 563 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: what happened, uh, And we're trying to our arms around that, 564 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: getting all the relevant information from the various agencies and 565 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: starting to talk to some of the people that have information. 566 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: You know. The thing that's interesting about this is that 567 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: this was handled at a very senior level of these departments. 568 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't handled in the ordinary way that investigations or 569 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: counterintelligence activities are conducted. It was sort of an ad 570 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: hoc small group, and most of these people are no 571 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: longer with the FBI or the CIA or the other 572 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: agencies involved. This appears to run deep. Why is it 573 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: so hard to figure out? Well, there are two things here. One, 574 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: no one's really looked at it. I think there's a 575 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: misconception out there that we know a lot about what happened. 576 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, Bob Muller did not 577 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: look at the government's activities. He was looking at the 578 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: whether or not the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians, 579 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: but he was not going back and looking at the 580 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: counterintelligence program. And we have a number of investigations underway 581 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: that touch upon it, the main one being the Office 582 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: of Inspector General that's looking at the FISA warrants. But 583 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, no one has really looked 584 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: across the whole waterfront. You also said back in April 585 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: that you thought they were spying going on in the 586 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: Trump campaign. When do you think that started. Well, I'm 587 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: not going to speculate about when it started. We're going 588 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: to find out when it started. It's been said that 589 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: it was July of twenty sixteen. Does that sound right 590 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: to you? Again, I don't want to speculate. What I 591 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: will say is that you know, I've been trying to 592 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: get answers to questions and I found that a lot 593 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: of the answers have been inadequate. And I've also found 594 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: that some of the explanations I've gotten don't hang together. 595 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: So in a sense, I have more questions today than 596 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: I did when I first start. Some of what things 597 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: don't hang together, some of the explanations of what occurred. 598 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Why does that matter? Well, because I think people have 599 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: to find out what the government was doing during that period. 600 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: If we're worried about foreign influence, for the very same reason, 601 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: we should be worried about whether government officials abused their 602 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: power and put their thumb on the scale. And so 603 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that happened, but I'm saying that we 604 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: have to look at that, all right. A phenomenal interview 605 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: with Bill Barba, my friend Bill Hemmer and the Fox 606 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: News Channel that aired this morning. We actually had a 607 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: portion of it last night on Hannity Hour two Sean 608 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: Hannity Show, eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean is 609 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: our number. You want to be a part of the program. 610 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: The Attorney General said a lot here that he is 611 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: investigating what role the Steel dossier played in the Russia 612 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: probe and the salacious document at a number of clear mistakes, 613 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: and it is a very unusual situation to have opposition 614 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: research like that, especially one that on its face had 615 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: had a number of clear mistakes and really basically saying 616 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: zero vetting what I've been saying that it hasn't been verified, 617 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: it hasn't been corroborated, and to use that conduct counterintelligence 618 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: against an American political campaign is a would be a 619 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: strange development. And the thing is is these are not 620 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: even issues in dispute anymore. This dossier was used as 621 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 1: the bulk of information for the FISA applications that were 622 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: used to spy, and there were multiple ways that spying 623 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: was done on the Trump campaign, but to spy on 624 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: an opposition party campaign, and it was paid for by 625 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: the other candidate, And it turns out through funneled money 626 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: from a law firm to a op research firm to 627 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: former m I six officer Steel Christopher Steel Rather, who 628 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: himself doesn't stand by his own dossier anyway. Here to 629 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: help analyze what it is that the Attorney General is saying. 630 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: Greg Chart, Fox News legal analyst, author of the Russia hoax, 631 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: and Alan Dershowitz, Harvard professor who contributed to analysis on 632 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: the Muller Report for Skyhorse Publishing. Thank you both for 633 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: being with us. Professor, why don't we start with you, 634 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: because Number one, I sense a seriousness in this man 635 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: and a passion for the law. I can't believe that 636 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: members on the House Judiciary Committee are literally demanding he 637 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: break the law and revealed grandjeury information and talking about 638 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: putting handcuffs on him by the Sergeant of Arms. And 639 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: he's saying, I'm not going to break the law. Well, 640 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right, and he's acting in the highest tradition 641 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: of attorneys general in the Justice Department. He says, I 642 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: will obey the law, and Congress has no authority to 643 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: make me violate the law by providing secret grand jury 644 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: material without authorization. And you know court authorization here is critical. 645 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: Is critical to the stealssier, and it's critical to this issue. 646 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: The big problem with the Seal dossier is not only 647 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: that it is deeply flawed. It's that the people who 648 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: sought the warrants knew it was deeply flawed and failed 649 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: to tell the Fyser Court about it. It's the failure 650 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: to disclose to the Fiser Court what they knew about 651 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: the source of the steal dossier that makes it into 652 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: a very very serious violation of civil liberties and something 653 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: that the Fiser Court should be extremely concerned about. We're 654 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: all waiting, obviously. It seems to me, though, you know, 655 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: we've had revelations Greg Jarrett in the last week, well 656 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: actually over the last number of weeks that are stunning 657 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: to me. One Bruce or closed door testimony said he 658 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: warned everybody Hillary paid for the dossier, it's unverified, Steel 659 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: hates Donald Trump. And that was in August to twenty sixteen. 660 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: Now we learned that in fact, a State Department official 661 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: had had literally met with Deal This is Kathleen Cavalac, 662 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: and in fact warned the FBI ten days prior to 663 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: the first PIES application being filed and signed by Jim Comey, 664 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: who which again at the top of the FIES application 665 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: it says verified, it's an unverifiable document of its author 666 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: doesn't stand by it. And also Jim come in January 667 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen went to Trump Tower and said, yeah, there's 668 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: this dossier. It's salacious and unverified. So you know, I 669 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: think he's in a whole heap of trouble over this. Oh, absolutely, 670 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: all of people who affix their signature is verifying for 671 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: its authenticity and its truthfulness. When they knew it wasn't 672 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: are in legal jeopardy. That you have to understand that 673 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: for them, the dossier was their holy grail. It would 674 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: deliver them from Trump. But now documents have emerged in 675 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Kathleen Cavalax is just one of them that proved it 676 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: was really just a hoax. The FBI to this phony 677 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: political document. It was funded by the Clinton campaign and 678 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: the DNC, and they effectively weaponized it to destroy Trump, 679 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: to surveil on an associate of his campaign, to gather 680 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: of incriminating evidence that didn't exist. And now they've been 681 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: caught red handed. So it's extremely important that a US 682 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: attorney by the name of John Durham, we'll get to 683 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. He has the power to do 684 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: with the Inspector General doesn't have the power to do, 685 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: and that is to compel testimony to present it to 686 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: a grand jury for potential indictments. Right, Yeah, that's exactly right. 687 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: And it's so important because you know, the road to 688 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: hell is paved with good intentions, and these folks believed 689 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: that getting rid of Donald Trump was the highest interest 690 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: of the United States. And when you have people with 691 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: that kind of zealotry, that's when the greatest violations of 692 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: civil liberties occur, whether it's on the right or the left. 693 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: When you have zealots who are convinced that they have 694 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: truth on their side with a capitalty, and it's only 695 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: they who can prevent disaster from happening to this country. 696 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: They will do anything because they believe that the ends 697 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: justify the means. And here we have just a perfect 698 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: example of zealots who were convinced that it would be 699 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: a disaster to allow the voters in the electoral College 700 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: to determine who the president was, and so they were 701 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: going to essentially pull off a coup to make sure 702 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: that the quote right result in their view occurred. And 703 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: whether you are a liberal or a conservative, or a 704 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: Democrat or a Republican, you have to be concerned with 705 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: that approach, especially when it comes from law enforcement. And 706 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: so I'm very happy that this is all coming out. 707 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: As a liberal Democrat, I'm very happy this is coming out. 708 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: Whether it hurts the Democrats or helps the Democrats, that's 709 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: a short term our issue. The long term issue is 710 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: the rule of law on the Constitution, And I know 711 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: this gets a little sensitive, and I think you think 712 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm being political, professor, but I'm not. I do believe 713 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: that the law eighteen Usc. Seven ninety three on the 714 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: Espionage Act is clear. And we do know that there 715 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: were top secret and classified documents on Hillary's private server, 716 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: and the subpoena emails that were deleted, the Bleach bit, 717 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: the hammers to devices, and the sim cards being removed. 718 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: That would be intent in obstruction, the intent obviously being 719 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: to destroy evidence. That's not political to me. You get. 720 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be investigated. I'm happy to see everything investigated. 721 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: List the shifts fall where they may make sure that 722 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: the law is equally applicable to Democrats and republic agree. 723 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: There's no thumb on the scale of Johndice. That's none. 724 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: We agree. We agree, and Greg, but I think you're 725 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: more convinced as I am. Oh, I absolutely am. As 726 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: I point out of the book, there there are seven 727 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: potential felonies that Hillary Clinton committed, and some of them 728 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: she committed. In the case of the statue you pointed 729 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: out seven ninety three, one hundred and ten times. You 730 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: see there are one hundred and ten classified documents that 731 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 1: Komi found that we're on our private server. So that 732 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: alone would would render arguably one hundred and ten felony 733 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: counts on a single statute. So you know this, nobody's 734 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: above the law. You know, you don't get a get 735 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: out of jail free car just because you're running for 736 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: president in the United States, and O g it's all over. 737 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: And you know, let bygones be bygones, which was Trump's 738 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: mistake after the election. And so you know, I think 739 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: this needs to be investigated thoroughly, and I hope it 740 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: will be. All right, I gotta take a quick break. 741 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll continue with Greg Jarrett and Professor 742 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Dershowitz on the other side here on the Sean Hannity Show. 743 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: All Right, as we continue with Greg Jarrett and Professor 744 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz, I get you know, I guess at this point, 745 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: and I'll go to Professor Dershowitz first on this. I 746 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: don't see how those people, I look at this, they 747 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: had It's all premeditated. To me, if you're warned about 748 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: the dossier, you purposely hide the where it came from. 749 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: They didn't put a big Hillary Clinton paid for this, 750 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: and they knew it, and they're active, they're testifying in 751 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: that application that it is verified and corroborated, and it's not. 752 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: And they do it because of a political agenda, and 753 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: we know the people involved had a political agenda against 754 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in this particular case. You're talking about really 755 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: an attempted coup against the president of the United States 756 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: or a candidate at first, then a president elect, then 757 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: a president. Am I and you over stating that, No, 758 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: I think you're also talking about the court. And it's 759 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: so important to emphasize that the Fizer court takes its 760 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: applications x party. That is, there's no adversarial system, so 761 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: the other side never has a chance to respond. That's 762 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: why people who file applications for fier warrants have a 763 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: special obligation, a special obligation more than they would at 764 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: a trial, more than they would in other proceedings where 765 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: the other side has a chance to respond, to be 766 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: completely candid, completely thorough, to tell not only the truth, 767 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: but the whole truth, and never to deny the court 768 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: negative information that might impact on a decision not to 769 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: grant the warrant. That's what's so important and why this 770 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: is such a violation of civil liberties and why it's 771 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: important for the attorney generally the general to look very 772 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: very hard on this, and also for the Fizer Court 773 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: to look very very hard on this and perhaps think 774 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,479 Speaker 1: about some contemporaries days. Well, Greg, I mean, how many 775 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: felonies can we possibly be talking about here? Well, fraud 776 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: on the court, conspiracy to defraud, deprivation of rights under 777 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: color of law, could be, you know, perjury. I mean 778 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: they sign their names to this, or at the very least, 779 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, making a fault and misleading statement. It's also 780 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 1: obstruction of justice. They're actively interfering in a judicial process 781 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: by concealing evidence and deceiving the judges. So I identify 782 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: six selonies in my book. There could be more, but 783 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: these are very as Professor Dersuits points out, these are 784 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 1: these are very very serious violations. It is almost comical 785 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: now that James Baker, the former General Counsel of the FPI, 786 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: is out there trying to rationalize what are to me 787 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: corrupt acts. And I don't think anybody's buying it. I mean, 788 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: especially since none of these guys can seem to get 789 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: their story straight either. They're pointing the finger of blame 790 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: at each other come and Clapper and Brunt. But you know, 791 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 1: as I, it's even worse than that you've got. Then 792 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: you've got Struck in page pointing right at Lauretta Lynch 793 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: saying she brigged that investigation. So you're saying nobody's buying this. Yeah, 794 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: but you're saying nobody's buying this. People are buying it 795 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: because people have taken part as in views of this. 796 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: And if the goal was to get Trump, then everything goes. 797 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: Then we don't care, We're not interested in civil liberties 798 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: or what happened. And so people are buying it, and 799 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: I think it's very important to keep emphasizing how the 800 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: court was misled and how they fail to provide all 801 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: the information necessary for the Court to make the kind 802 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: of decision it's supposed to make on an next party basis. 803 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: Greg what's your response to that. Yeah, you know, the 804 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: Professor's right. The mainstream media seems to be buying what 805 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: James Baker is pedaling. Democrats are certainly buying it. But 806 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that a judge would buy the FISSU 807 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: Court would buy it, and I don't think an inspector 808 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 1: general has bought it. And I think he's probably finished 809 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: his investigation, and when John Durham reviews it, I'm completely 810 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: confident he ain't gonna buy it, So I think there 811 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 1: will be criminal referrals. All right, I want to thank 812 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: you both for being with us. Professor Dershowitz, Thank you, 813 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. Thank you Greg. You're gonna stay with us 814 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: as we continue and talk about the Russian intel operations expert. 815 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Scott Jullinger, who's going to 816 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: join us next as we continue, and much more straight ahead, 817 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: How do you think John Brennan and James Clapper handled 818 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: the Russian investigation? Well, again, I don't want to speculate 819 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: about the facts at this point at all. I know 820 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: some facts, but it's premature to be discussing. Can you 821 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: tell us what the Steel dossier had to do with this? 822 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: What role did that play? Well, that's one of the questions, 823 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: you know that we're going to have to look at it. 824 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: It's a very usual situation to have opposition research like that, 825 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: especially one that on its face had a number of 826 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: clear mistakes and a somewhat Jejune analysis, and to use 827 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: that to get to conduct counterintelligence against the American political 828 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: campaign is a strange would be a strange development. I'm 829 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: not sure what role it played, but that's something we 830 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: have to look at. Do you smell a rat in 831 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: this at this point? I don't know. If i'd described 832 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: a rat, I would just say that the answers I'm 833 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: getting are not sufficient. Just to follow up on that, 834 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: Republicans have said for months that these men, Brennan, Clapper, 835 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: maybe James Comey had it in for Trump. Do you 836 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: think that's true? Again, I'm not going to speculate about 837 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: their motives and the period of time between election day 838 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: and the inauguration. Did anyone in government or in intelligence 839 00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: did they take action to justify their decisions between election day? 840 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: Did you say between election Day of two thousand and 841 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: sixteen in November and inauguration day? I think there were 842 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: some very strange developments during that period. That's one of 843 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: the things we want to look into, such as such 844 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: as the handling of the meeting on January sixth between 845 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: the intelligence chiefs and the president and the leaking of 846 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: information subsequent to that meeting. Was that meeting in New 847 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: York City? Yes? In Trump Tower? Yes? What questions do 848 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: you have about what happened that day? Again, I'm not 849 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 1: going to get into into that, but it's on your mind. 850 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: That's one of the things we need to look at. 851 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: Can you characterize how far advanced you are in understanding 852 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: that meeting. We're still in the stage of gathering all 853 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: the information. Horowitz has already concluded that the final three 854 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: FISES were completely illegal. He's now on the brink of 855 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: finding that the first FISA was completely illegal. Durham has 856 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: already used a grand jury in Connecticut, They've already gotten documents, 857 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: He's already talked to the Intel people. How long has 858 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: this been going on? Do we really know how Durham's 859 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: been working for a couple of months. So the bottom 860 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: line is this, This is now big time. This is 861 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: where Brennan needs five lawyers, needs the lawyered. Are they 862 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: lawyered up sufficiently? I hope Comey has someone other than 863 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: mister Richmond to whom he leaked his memos, all right? 864 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: That first was Bill Barr, I mean him on FISA 865 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: is It is mind numbing what he's saying, because everything 866 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: we said is going to happen is happening. And then 867 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: Joe Degeneva that Horowitz has already concluded that the final 868 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: three fisers were completely illegal, and dorham as already has 869 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 1: has convened a grand jury and he's working now for 870 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: a couple of months, and he made those comments on Fox. 871 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, pretty amazing stuff. We continue with Greg Jarrett, 872 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: author of the number one bestseller of the Russia Hoax. 873 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: Scott Yullinger's with US retired CIA OPS officer, Russian Intel 874 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: operations expert, and welcome to you. Scott. Let me ask 875 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: you this when the New York Times reports, especially on 876 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: the FISA issue, which is now really becoming a focus 877 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: for everybody, that it's likely Hillary bought and paid for 878 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, and it becomes the basis of a FISA 879 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: application that is even worse than what we thought. We're 880 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: not supposed to have foreign spies, you know, putting together 881 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 1: dossiers that are full of lies in the first place, 882 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: And in an interrogatory Chris Steele said he doesn't stand 883 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: by his own document. Then it's used as the basis 884 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: for a FISA warrant. It's an unverifiable document. They don't 885 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: tell the FISA quarters. We discussed the last half hour 886 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: that Hillary paid for this thing, and yet they spied 887 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: on a political campaign I mean, it's kind of scary 888 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: to me. It's absolutely absolutely sean, and it's it's incredible 889 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: that this happened. I mean, the Steel dossier. For an 890 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: intelligence professional like myself, I realized it was garbage more 891 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: than two years ago because Christopher Steele was literally speaking 892 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: to former Russian officials on like in an open channel. 893 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: He was not having a clandestine meeting. So why would 894 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: you think that any official Russian would give you anything 895 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: other than what Vladimir Putin directly wanted to get out 896 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: to us. And that's the whole point of having clandestine sources. 897 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: They provide information that is compromising, but calling someone up 898 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: on a telephone in London to Moscow, You're not going 899 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: to get a real scoop from somebody that way. So 900 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: the Steel ducie was inherently poisoned from the get go. Well, 901 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: you're a retired CIA opts office, a Russian intel operations expert, 902 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, I've been told by many people that know 903 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: that Russia has done this, not just to us, to everybody. 904 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: And I go back and I'm like, in twenty fourteen, 905 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: before the twenty sixteen election, Devin Nunez, then House Intelligence 906 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: Committee Chair, was saying they're gonna do it in twenty sixteen, 907 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: and that's under Biden Obama. All of this Brennan and 908 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: Clapper and call me and I'm just like, now, all 909 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden it becomes they try to throw this 910 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: somehow on Donald Trump when they had a duty and obligation. 911 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: Did they not if the head of the Intel Committee knows, 912 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: They've got to know too, don't they? Or am I 913 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: just inferring something it wouldn't be true. No, that's absolutely true. 914 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 1: And in fact, the Obama administration dropped the ball by 915 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: de emphasizing the danger of this before, you know, six 916 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: months before the elections took place. But anyone who understands 917 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: the way the Russians up or he knows that they've 918 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: been doing this since you know, the Russian Revolution. I mean, 919 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: the whole reason they subsumed the Iron Curtain was because 920 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: they rotted those governments from within, you know, the country's 921 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: like Czechoslovakia, Poland, and then eventually brought them into the 922 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: Soviet Empire. So they are old hands at disrupting internal 923 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: government functions and affecting political perception. Greg I mean, this 924 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: gets into all of this. I don't understand why America 925 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: is still hackaball. That makes sense, I think. I read 926 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: we have two hundred and fifty thousand IT employees for 927 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 1: the federal government. I think I always view America with 928 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: the belief that we have the best of the best, 929 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: but you have these instances where we keep hearing about 930 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: our top secrets being hacked into. I know there's some 931 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: very smart, creative people out there with nefarious intentions that 932 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: always want to hurt us. But after you get hacked 933 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: a hundred times, do you not say it's we're allowing 934 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: this to happen. Why haven't we built the defense systems 935 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: up to prevent this from happening to us? And maybe 936 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: it's a moving target I assume at all times, but 937 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 1: still it is. It is a moving target in this sense. 938 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: For every anti virus program you can introduce to protect 939 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 1: your system, nefarious actors who are skilled at cyberspionage, like 940 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: the GRU in Russia, they come up with a way 941 00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: around it or a different entrance to computer systems. It is. 942 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: You're right, it's sort of a constant moving tour. You 943 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: have to continue to upgrade and look for ways to 944 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: protect your system. So it's an interesting point that you 945 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: bring up because it was always a silly proposition that 946 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: the gru and the Russians somehow needed the Trump campaign 947 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: to help them hack into the Podesta emails and the 948 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: Democratic system in Hillary Clinton emails. There was nobody sophisticated 949 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: on the Trump campaign to do that. The Russian intrusions 950 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: began before the Trump campaign, and so they didn't need 951 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: Trump's help. And yet when you look at the Muller Report, 952 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: so much of time and attention is focused on their 953 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: efforts to try to prove that Trump colluded in the 954 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: hacking of email systems. And that's just silliness to even 955 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: consider it. All right, quick break more it Scott and 956 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: Gregg on the other side as we continue, and we'll 957 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: look at the presidents no immigration policies. At the top 958 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: of the next hour. We'll get to your call as well. 959 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: In a little Friday concert series. The final hour of 960 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show is up next. Hang on for 961 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: Sean's conservative solutions, all right, as we continue with Greg 962 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: Jarrett and Scott Yullinger. I know it's a moving target, Scott, 963 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't begin to eat. I barely can download 964 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: an app for crying out loud. That's how pathetic. I 965 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 1: am with computers, all right, that's not my thing, right, Uh, 966 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: my young kids, can you do this for me? That's 967 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: what I say all the digits, giuse you do it. 968 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: And I think I'm like a lot of people. I 969 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: know the level of sophistication, you know. I've had people 970 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: on this program say that every phone call, every text, 971 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 1: every email is recorded, every single and stored and megadata stored. 972 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: And our own government does it all. And I'm fine 973 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: with having the best intelligence. I believe we have the 974 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: premiere law enforcement agency in the world with the FBI. 975 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: I really believe that in the ninety nine point nine 976 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: that should never be tainted by what some bad apples 977 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: did at the top. And I really believe that it 978 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: pains me to ever even talk negatively about this great 979 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: agency that in any negative way. But abuse of power occurred. 980 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: And I believe with the intelligence community too, the world's 981 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: premiere intelligence community. But those tools are so powerful if 982 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 1: we turn them on the American people, or we use 983 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: it for nefarious political reasons. You know, at home, everything 984 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: we stand for is a constant, stitutional republic. All of 985 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: our rights, they're not only diminished, they're destroyed. And that 986 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: seems to have happened. That's right, John's and that's why 987 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm very alarmed at everything we've been seeing with this, 988 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: with the Russian collusion hoax, from from the get go. 989 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: It's I'm really glad that you've been sounding the call 990 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: for for going on two years now, because this is 991 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the worst political scandal we've ever had. I mean, it 992 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: is unprecedented for the CIA to be doing things like 993 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: installing spies to entrap people in a political campaign. Now, 994 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: usually the CIA and even the FBI are bureaucratically, sometimes 995 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: they're relatively risk averse. I mean they want to avoid 996 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: what they call the quote appearance of impropriety unquote, and 997 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: sometimes that can be even at the expense of not 998 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 1: always performing the mission. But here we have the opposite. 999 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: We have people dedicating the tools of the intelligence community 1000 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: to spying on a US political campaign, which is inconceivable. 1001 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: If you told me fifteen years ago when I was 1002 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: in the agency that this would be occurring, I would 1003 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: have refused to have believed it because I saw the 1004 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: agency sometimes be very risk adverse. But in this case, 1005 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: they're willing to do something which is not only far 1006 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: behind their mandate, but is illegal. And yet they did 1007 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: it because under the Obama administration, the entire intelligence community, 1008 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: whether it's the FBI, the CIA, or the NSA, had 1009 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: become thoroughly politicized. And this is what the American people 1010 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: now have to live with. You know, Greg, I wonder 1011 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: now what I mean? I wonder if in the end 1012 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: we actually have to weaken, you know, our great work 1013 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: because of a few bad apples. In other words, you know, 1014 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: with the protections that we now need to put in. Well, 1015 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: let's start with surveillance. All the unmasking that took place, 1016 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: a three hundred and fifty percent increase in unmasking in 1017 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen alone, Samantha Powers, you know, three hundred separate 1018 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: unmasking requests. I don't want the talent of this agency 1019 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: in this ugly, evil world we live in. Starting with 1020 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: the bad actors in Russia and Vladimir putin himself, by 1021 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the way, and we can bring him to his knees. 1022 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: We will outproduce him energy wise, and that's it. We 1023 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: would cripple their economy. That's how you defeat Russia. But 1024 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: putting that aside, and I just wonder, now, you know, 1025 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: what is the antidote? How do you put in the 1026 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: protections and still do the hard job of intelligence. Well, 1027 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: exposing corruption tends to put a stop to what I 1028 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: refer to as power creep. And it happens in agencies 1029 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: like our intelligence community, the CIA, the FBI. It's happened 1030 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: before when misconduct and corruption has been exposed. Congress has 1031 01:02:54,520 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: taken actions to limit power and accountability Congressional oversight and this, 1032 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, this happens every twenty thirty years. It happened 1033 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: about that time back in the eighties when we learned 1034 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: of corrupt acts, and so it's going to happen again here. 1035 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,040 Speaker 1: We have now learned that, as Scott said, our intelligence 1036 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: community became politicized and weaponized improperly and illegally under the 1037 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Obama administration, and exposure is the only antidote because that 1038 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:39,919 Speaker 1: precipitates restrictions and changes in oversight. Well, let me ask 1039 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: you this, Scott, because you know how bad is it? 1040 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: How bad do you think the corruption is and how 1041 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: vulnerable are we as a country from outside actors hostile 1042 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: regimes Russia, Iran, China, North Korea in terms of their 1043 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: ability to hack us. Well, I think I think that 1044 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: this is in some ways, this whole revelation investigation by 1045 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the Attorney General is a good thing. Unfortunately, it comes 1046 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: at a very bad time when we are uniquely challenged 1047 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: by some significant threats such as mostly China, to a 1048 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: lesser extent, Russia and of course Iran and North Korea. 1049 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that was said before. By exposing this corruption 1050 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: to the sunlight and having real reform made, we will 1051 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: reduce this politicization, which will automatically increase the effectiveness of 1052 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: our intelligence community because we very much need it in 1053 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: today's dangerous world. You know, the curse of any intel service, 1054 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and I've seen it in my career all over the 1055 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: world is politicization. Once a service becomes politicized, it is 1056 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: usually the path to ruin and that service becomes marginalized 1057 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: and ineffective. So hopefully Barr will put a stop to this. 1058 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: We'll have a thorough investigation, people who misbehaved will be 1059 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: punished severely, and then we can move on and have 1060 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: enhanced security for everyone. Well, I want the right thing. 1061 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I love this country. I don't love the people that 1062 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: work for this country and protect us and show us 1063 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: all the courage. I want to be the best at 1064 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 1: that game because it's not really a game. Look at 1065 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: the last century alone, one hundred million souls destroyed that 1066 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: we have to be ever vigilant. So I just hope 1067 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: we got to the bottom of it all. Scott, thank 1068 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: you for being one of us. Greg thank you appreciate it. 1069 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four one Sean Tolfree telephone number. 1070 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program when 1071 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: we come back. Principal Deputy White House Secretary Hogan Gidley 1072 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: joins us and your calls straight ahead. Going up next 1073 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: our final news round up and Information Overload Hour. This 1074 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: is the most prized citizenship anywhere in the world by far. Currently, 1075 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: sixty six percent of legal immigrants come here on the 1076 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: basis of random chance. They're admitted solely because they have 1077 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 1: a relative in the United States, and it doesn't really 1078 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: matter who that relative is. Our proposal fulfills our sacred 1079 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: duty to those living here today while ensuring America remains 1080 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: a welcoming country to immigrants joining us tomorrow. And we 1081 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,880 Speaker 1: want immigrants coming in. We cherish the open door that 1082 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: we want to create for our country, but a big 1083 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 1: proportion of those immigrants must come in through merit and skill. 1084 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: The white House plan makes no change to the number 1085 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: of Green cards allocated each year, but instead of admitting 1086 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: people through random chance, we will establish simple, the universal 1087 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: criteria for admission to the United States, no matter where 1088 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: in the world you're born, no matter who your relatives are, 1089 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: if you want to become an American citizen, it will 1090 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: be clear exactly what standard we ask you to achieve. 1091 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: It will be made crystal clear. We must also restore 1092 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: the integrity of our broken asylum system. Our nation has 1093 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: a proud history of affording protection to those fleeting government persecutions. Unfortunately, 1094 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: legitimate asylum seekers are being displaced by those lodging frivolous claims. 1095 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: These are frivolous claims to gain admission into our country. 1096 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: My plan expedites relief for legitimate asylum seekers by screening 1097 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: out the meritless claims. If you have a proper claim, 1098 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 1: you will quickly be admitted. If you don't, you will 1099 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: promptly be returned home. All right, So that's what the 1100 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: President said. And then there's fake news CNN. Now they 1101 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: claim to be the facts first network. That's what they claim, Okay, 1102 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,839 Speaker 1: but never mind the fact. For two years and running, 1103 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: they only perpetrated conspiracy, theories of hoax and lies to 1104 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 1: their audience and the American people. But anyway, so a 1105 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: costa tweets based on what you just turned. Trump in 1106 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Rose Garden speech paints asylum seekers with broad brush, accusing 1107 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: them of misleading immigration authorities at the border. These are 1108 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 1: frivolous claims, which is an accurate. President said, we must 1109 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: also restore the integrity of our broken asylum system. Our 1110 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: nation has a proud history of affording protection to those 1111 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: fleeing government persecutions. Unfortunately, legitimate asylum seekers are being displaced 1112 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: by those lodging frivolous claims. And these are frivolous claims 1113 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,680 Speaker 1: to gain admission into our country. And he added, my 1114 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: plan expedites relief for legitimate asylum seekers by screening out 1115 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: the meritless claims. If you have a proper claim, you 1116 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: will quickly be admitted. If you don't, you will be 1117 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: promptly returned home. That's not a broad brush accusing or 1118 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: painting asylum seekers of misleading immigration authorities at the border. Anyway, 1119 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Joining us is Hogan Goodley's the principal Deputy White House 1120 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Secretary works towards Sarah Sanders how are you. I'm great, Sean, 1121 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good, sir. I mean, look, we 1122 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: know Acosta cares about Acosta and Acosta's image and Acosta's 1123 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: life and Acosta's ego. I get it, but I mean 1124 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: just to purposely do it, and then you wonder why 1125 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: it's a waste of time to talk to these people. 1126 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's worse than that. We have a 1127 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: million people in this country right now with final removal 1128 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: orders from judges who came here and claimed asylum. They 1129 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: had their case adjudicated, and it turns out they were 1130 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,560 Speaker 1: not telling the truth and they did not deserve asylum 1131 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: in this great country, and the judge ordered them removed. 1132 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,919 Speaker 1: We have a million of those people. No one reports 1133 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: on that at all. It is completely brushed out of 1134 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the rug, and you hear reporter after reporter have these 1135 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,719 Speaker 1: biased conversations and biased reporting that tries to somehow paint 1136 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 1: us as a nation that isn't compassionate. We're the most 1137 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 1: compassionate nation on the face of the planet. Were led 1138 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: in one point one million people a year into this 1139 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: country legally, hundreds of thousands of visas for workers, hundreds 1140 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 1: of thousands of visas for students, So to say anything 1141 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 1: other than the fact that we are generous and we 1142 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: welcome people, not to mention ones who desperately deserve and 1143 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: need asylum. As you just pointed out, you'll quickly be 1144 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: led into this country if that's the case. The problem 1145 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 1: is so many are lying and defrauding the system and 1146 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: scamming the system. We've seen a seventeen increase incredible fear 1147 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: claims in the last seven years because they know the 1148 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 1: magic words. They're coached by the drug cartels and the 1149 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 1: human smugglers and the child traffickers of how to get 1150 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 1: in this country. It's time to change it. This president 1151 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,439 Speaker 1: is doing it regardless of what the mainstream media try 1152 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: to lie about. Well, I mean, and that's the hard part. 1153 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, And this is what you guys deal with 1154 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: every day. And then they complain about, you know, well, 1155 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,440 Speaker 1: that you don't have enough press conferences. Those press conferences 1156 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: have devolved into every single Washington Press Corps member. They're 1157 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,839 Speaker 1: not looking for information. They're looking for their moment, their gotcha, 1158 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 1: their their own careers are in play for them. And 1159 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: what they're asking you know what I'm saying, It's really hard. 1160 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, listen, we're not going to be 1161 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 1: responsible for launching the careers of people who just decide 1162 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 1: to grandstand inside the press briefing room. Sarah Sanders goes 1163 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 1: out there every time delivers the information. The President gives 1164 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: information on the way to Marine one in gaggles. He 1165 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: is the most accessible president in the history of the planet. 1166 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Anyone who covers the White House and has for decades 1167 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 1: will tell you as much. However, in that briefing room, 1168 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: as you just said, so many are auditioning for contracts. 1169 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:22,520 Speaker 1: And you see, since we haven't had that many briefings 1170 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: of late, because we've been giving the media so much 1171 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,200 Speaker 1: other news and other forms, whether they're gaggles on the 1172 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,960 Speaker 1: lawn or the president directly, those folks who used to 1173 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of airtime aren't getting as much airtime 1174 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 1: because they're not relevant, because they don't get to use 1175 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: the White House to try and pad their own careers. Well, 1176 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 1: let me ask you from this standpoint. I mean, you know, 1177 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 1: for example, it seems like nobody wants to give Donald 1178 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Trump a win. And you know, when the Democrats were 1179 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: offered on the case of immigration, they seem to care 1180 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: about walls and borders, when Obama was proposing it in 1181 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: its second term, and they were willing to fund it then. 1182 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: And they seem to care about dreamers, and they seem 1183 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,719 Speaker 1: to care about DACA. And the President offered all the above, 1184 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 1: and the answer became and evolved into that this is 1185 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: somehow a manufactured crisis and it's a moral to build walls. 1186 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: So that tells me that this is all about politics. Absolutely, 1187 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: they've been playing politics with people's lives for a long time, 1188 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you know as well as I do. Democrats just hate 1189 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,599 Speaker 1: being out of power, but they'll use DACA to their 1190 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: advantage anyway possible. The President offered one point eight million 1191 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 1: people here under the DOCCA rule citizenship, three times more 1192 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: than Barack Obama, and the Democrats still wouldn't come to 1193 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the table. Barack Obama called this a humanitarian crisis from 1194 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: the Rose Garden, and the Democrats cheered and said, we 1195 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: have to fix it. Donald Trump gets in office. Not 1196 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: only did Donald Trump deliver his first Oval office address 1197 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: directly to the American people, predicting this would happen on 1198 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 1: the southern border, claiming the christ is on its way. 1199 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: He got mocked and derided, as did Fox News, for example, 1200 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 1: saying that they were lying about all of this, and 1201 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 1: in all of that, Nancy Pelosia and Chuck Schumer go 1202 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: on and get airtime after his oval office address, which 1203 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 1: is unheard of in the first place. But they go 1204 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,879 Speaker 1: on television and use the term manufactured crisis three times. 1205 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: But was it manufactured when Obama called it? That? Was 1206 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 1: it manufactured when they voted for walls and they voted 1207 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: to close loopholes in years past. Absolutely not. This has 1208 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: gotten way out of control and Democrats are the party 1209 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: of open borders. That's their only solution to this because 1210 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,719 Speaker 1: they choose to stand with hundreds of thousands of people 1211 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: who come here illegally and unlawfully every month as opposed 1212 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 1: to the hundreds of millions of American citizens, and its 1213 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: time they answer for it. Well, I agree. So as 1214 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: we move forward with the president's agenda, you've got record 1215 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,600 Speaker 1: breaking success. You've got Democrats that are trying to outgreen 1216 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: deal the each other, and somehow there has emerged the 1217 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: consensus among the Democratic Party in the Democratic Party that well, 1218 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 1: we need to get rid of oil and gas for 1219 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the first time in seventy five years, Hogan, we are 1220 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: energy independent and a net ex border of energy. We're 1221 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: all to talk about Russia. We can bring Russia to 1222 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: its knees if we outproduced them with energy and get 1223 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,519 Speaker 1: it to our allies and get it to Asia and 1224 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: get it to Australia. Secondly, record low unemployment for African Americans, 1225 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace. We have 1226 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: now one point seven million more jobs available than we 1227 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,880 Speaker 1: have people on unemployment. This has not happened Biden. Obama 1228 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: gave US thirteen million more Americans on food stamps, eight 1229 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,640 Speaker 1: million more in poverty, the worst recovery in forty years, 1230 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,719 Speaker 1: and more debt than all forty three presidents before them combined. 1231 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: And it's like, what part of this success are they 1232 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: not enjoying? They ought to be cheering and thanking this 1233 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: president for turning around an economy for the very people 1234 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: they claim to want to help. The point you just 1235 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 1: said that you're African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women 1236 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: are now employed at record numbers. I mean, this present 1237 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: has systematically turned around the economy with deregulation and tax cuts. 1238 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,799 Speaker 1: And the proof is what you see with the people 1239 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 1: who are actually seeing success, and people like Marida Blasio, 1240 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 1: for example, saying, with this Green New Deal, taking it 1241 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: so far, he's talking about not using glass and steel 1242 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,719 Speaker 1: to build buildings. I mean, look, this has been tried before. 1243 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 1: It's in the story of the Three Little Pigs. And 1244 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 1: if history is any guide building with straw and sticks, 1245 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: it just doesn't end well. For you can't do that either. 1246 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 1: But what are you gonna use. You can't use wood 1247 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: because then you're cutting freeze exactly. It's absolutely incredible. And 1248 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,840 Speaker 1: they still are going down this road. You mentioned it 1249 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,919 Speaker 1: on the intro. They're still talking about cover ups and Russia. 1250 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I heard Carl Bernstein of the famed Woodward and Bernstein 1251 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: group the other day saying, this is an ongoing cover up. 1252 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: What is he talking about? First of all, he's been 1253 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: scratching and clawing to be relevant since the nineteen seventies. 1254 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: But every time I hear him talk, it's almost as 1255 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,879 Speaker 1: though he's a fifty year old man at a cocktail 1256 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: party talking about the one time he threw a touchdown 1257 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: pass in high school. I mean, it's over Watergate's over 1258 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: this cover up he's claiming to be. The entire thing 1259 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: is public. Mueller had two years to do this. Barr 1260 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: put out every word with a few little tents of 1261 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 1: a redaction, and they still can't get over it because 1262 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: they wanted it to be true so badly. And if 1263 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 1: they admit that it was a lie, and they admit 1264 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 1: that they were telling the American people a flat out 1265 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,360 Speaker 1: wide of their face without proof or evidence, then they're 1266 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: going to admit the fact that the last two years 1267 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: of their life were a complete and total waste and 1268 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 1: they just refused to let go. All right, quick break, 1269 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 1: we'll come back more with Hogan Gidley is the principal 1270 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: Deputy White House Secretary. On the other side, Then our 1271 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: concert series is Friday and boy we need it, and 1272 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 1: you're called straight ahead as we continue with Hogan Gidley 1273 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 1: is the principal Deputy White House Press Secretary with Sarah 1274 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: Sanders in the White House. Now, let me ask you 1275 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more details about the President's plan on immigration. 1276 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Fewer green cards given to people with relatives already in 1277 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:15,919 Speaker 1: the US. Factors like age, English language proficiency, employment offers 1278 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 1: also taken into account. The Diversity Visa Lottery, which offers 1279 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: green cards to citizens of countries with historically low rates 1280 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,879 Speaker 1: of immigration to the US, would be eliminated, will strengthen 1281 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 1: our ports of entry, will continue to build the wall 1282 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 1: and all the other technologies that are needed. A fund 1283 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: paid for with increased fees, created a modernized ports of entry, 1284 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: and you know, you know it sounds reasonable and rightly, 1285 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,799 Speaker 1: so it doesn't address what to do about the millions 1286 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 1: of people here already, and I don't think that should 1287 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: be addressed until the wall is built in a secure sure. Well, look, 1288 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 1: you know you when you spring a league, obviously you 1289 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 1: want to fix the league. You don't go shopping for 1290 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: a new Saint. I mean, the fact is we have 1291 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 1: a leak in this country relates to illegal immigration coming 1292 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 1: across our borders and record numbers you hit on it. 1293 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: The plan that the present laid out is not only reasonable, 1294 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: it's rational and actually addresses the problem in twofold one 1295 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 1: is border security. The pieces you mentioned on strengthening some 1296 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 1: of our infrastructure to scan one hundred percent of the 1297 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,960 Speaker 1: vehicles that come across one percent of the trade cargo. 1298 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean you thought we've been doing that. We haven't 1299 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 1: building the wall. We'll have about four hundred plus miles 1300 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,240 Speaker 1: built by the end of the year next year. But 1301 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 1: also the merit based system. As you just said, we 1302 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: found out that people who come here who are younger 1303 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 1: tend to assimilate. Data shows that they tend to actually 1304 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 1: contribute to the American economy and to the idea of 1305 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: what America actually is. That's important. Also, people who come 1306 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: here with degrees, people who come here with skills to 1307 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 1: work in our manufacturing sector. I mean, the president is 1308 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 1: bringing back these jobs. He keeps hearing from the owners 1309 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 1: of these companies they need more workers. So we're talking 1310 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: about bringing people and like that, not low wage workers, 1311 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,520 Speaker 1: low skill workers to depress wages, but higher wage individuals 1312 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: who have a skill that can contribute to this country. 1313 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: It seems rational, it seems reasonable. It's no wonder democrats 1314 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 1: don't like it because it makes too much sense. Well, 1315 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,240 Speaker 1: I think this is the thing. You know, one of 1316 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,720 Speaker 1: the big messages I think for the reelection is going 1317 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: to be are you better off than your war four 1318 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 1: years ago? It's a pretty simple answer, absolutely across the board. 1319 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 1: As the groups we just mentioned, as the demographics, the 1320 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: answers yes. And when eighty plus percent of this country 1321 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 1: receives a tax cut, and then the media comes out 1322 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 1: and has to say, you guys received a tax cut, 1323 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,799 Speaker 1: and then they're shocked that the American people didn't realize 1324 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,879 Speaker 1: they got a tax cut. It's because they've been reporting 1325 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: a lie for the last two years, saying you didn't 1326 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: get it, it only went to the rich, and we 1327 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 1: find out a majority of the country gets the tax cut. 1328 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the type of ninety three percent 1329 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: negative news coverage this president has to endure that no 1330 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 1: other president in history has had to face. And he's 1331 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 1: winning every day, all day for all demographics and all 1332 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: the people in this country, and Democrats just don't know 1333 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: what to do about it. Yeah, well said, all right, 1334 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Hogan Gidley is the principal Deputy 1335 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,360 Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary. Thank you so much for being 1336 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: with us. I will take a quick break. Friday concert 1337 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: series coming up next, and then right to your phone 1338 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,200 Speaker 1: calls as the Sean Hannity Show continues. Oh man, I 1339 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 1: just get this feeling at this time every Friday. I'm like, wow, 1340 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: we made it another week. You know, we're this close 1341 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: now on this FISA information coming public. It's going to 1342 01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 1: be a shock to the soul and system. The apparatic, 1343 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 1: if you will. The new extreme radical Democratic Socialist Party 1344 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: they're not gonna like what they're gonna see, and there 1345 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: won't be any opportunity to spin this to lie any further. Well, 1346 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 1: I want to play one more cut of Bill Barr. 1347 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so stunning to me what he's 1348 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: saying here. No one's looked into the counterintelligence pro but 1349 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: the Trump against the Trump campaign. And then, you know, 1350 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,040 Speaker 1: answers to my questions have been inadequate. Let's listen to 1351 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 1: this and then we'll get right to the calls. Well, 1352 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: the first step is find out exactly what happened, and 1353 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to get our arms around that, getting all 1354 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 1: the relevant information from the various agencies, and starting to 1355 01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 1: talk to some of the people that have information. You know, 1356 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting about this is that this was 1357 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 1: handled at a very senior level of these departments. It 1358 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:37,720 Speaker 1: wasn't handled in the ordinary way that investigations or counterintelligence 1359 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,639 Speaker 1: activities are conducted. It was sort of an ad hoc 1360 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: small group, and most of these people are no longer 1361 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 1: with the FBI or the CIA or the other agencies involved. 1362 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 1: This appears to run deep. Why is it so hard 1363 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 1: to figure out? Well, there are two things here. One, 1364 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,960 Speaker 1: no one's really looked at it. I think there's a 1365 01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 1: misconception out there that we know a lot about what happened. 1366 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: The fact of the matter is, Bob Muller did not 1367 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 1: look at the government's activities. He was looking at the 1368 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 1: whether or not the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians, 1369 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: but he was not going back and looking at the 1370 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: counterintelligence program. And we have a number of investigations underway 1371 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 1: that touch upon it, the main one being the Office 1372 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 1: of Inspector General that's looking at the FISA warrants. But 1373 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware, no one has really looked 1374 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,759 Speaker 1: across the whole waterfront. You also said back in April 1375 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 1: that you thought there spying going on in the Trump campaign. 1376 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 1: When do you think that started. Well, I'm not going 1377 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 1: to speculate about what it started. We're going to find 1378 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,600 Speaker 1: out when it started. It's been said that it was 1379 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: July of two sixteen. Does that sound right to you? Again, 1380 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate. What I will say is 1381 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 1: that you know, I've been trying to get answers to questions, 1382 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: and I found that a lot of the answers have 1383 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: been inadequate. And I've also found that some of the 1384 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,600 Speaker 1: explanations I've gotten don't hang together. In a sense, I 1385 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,240 Speaker 1: have more questions today than I did when I first start. 1386 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Some of what things don't hang together, some of the 1387 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 1: explanations of what occurred. Why does that matter? Well, because 1388 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I think people have to find out what the government 1389 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,519 Speaker 1: was doing during that period. If we're worried about foreign 1390 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 1: influence for the very same reason, we should be worried 1391 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: about whether government officials abuse their power and put their 1392 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 1: thumb on the scale. And so I'm not saying that happened, 1393 01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that we have to look at that. 1394 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our busy phones. Here. Larry 1395 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,719 Speaker 1: is in California. Larry, how are you glad you called? 1396 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 1: I guess you're one of the remaining Californians that's gonna 1397 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: just pay and pay through the nose. Hi, Sean, how 1398 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,840 Speaker 1: are you? I'm good, sir? How are you good? I 1399 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,360 Speaker 1: just want to make a quick comment on James Clapper's 1400 01:24:55,439 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 1: recent TV interview where he was advocating Inspector General finishing 1401 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 1: his work before bar appoints this US attorney from Connecticut. 1402 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: You know the reason he's looking at that is this 1403 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: guy can't subpoena the Inspector General. He can't convene a 1404 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 1: grand jury, you know, he can only interview current federal employees. 1405 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 1: But now with the US Attorney looking into this, this 1406 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,720 Speaker 1: guy can convene a grand jury, takes worn testimony, you 1407 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 1: can file charges. And to be honest with you, this 1408 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,560 Speaker 1: is the first time that I actually think somebody is 1409 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 1: going to be charged with a crime. And that makes 1410 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: my friday, to be truthful with you, the only you know, 1411 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't really take glee in it, and I've explained this. 1412 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:47,080 Speaker 1: I have a you know, I I guess maybe you 1413 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: know some people have said to me, well, hannay, you should, 1414 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, take a value You've been right for two 1415 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 1: years and all your ensemble team. You know, I do 1416 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 1: take pride in my work that we want to be right. 1417 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 1: We are hard to be right. And believe me, if 1418 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,920 Speaker 1: I was as wrong as the rest of the media 1419 01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,640 Speaker 1: the last two years, you don't think they'd be bludgeoning 1420 01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 1: me in every single hour of every day. And our 1421 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:15,759 Speaker 1: sourcing was so good everyone did, you know, basically old 1422 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: school styled reporting and investigating and sources and corroborating and 1423 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: all the things that so called journalists are supposed to 1424 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,640 Speaker 1: do like we did back betting Obama. Nobody else did it, 1425 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,880 Speaker 1: and we did. And I just say to you this, 1426 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, as somebody that just loves law enforcement, to 1427 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: see this and to see that we've gotten to the 1428 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 1: precipice where we are and what could have really happened 1429 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,559 Speaker 1: in the end if Hillary Clinton wins this election, we 1430 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,080 Speaker 1: never know a thing and then it probably only gets worse. 1431 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,800 Speaker 1: So I I, you know, I want we have to 1432 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,800 Speaker 1: fix it for the sake of the country, the rule 1433 01:26:54,840 --> 01:27:01,879 Speaker 1: of law. Anyway, Thanks for the quy anything else? Oh 1434 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 1: that's it. I have a great day. Are you here? 1435 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 1: Are you watching the golf on TV? Today? I haven't 1436 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 1: been watching because I got a show to too, but 1437 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 1: I'll be watching this weekend, no doubt about it. All right, 1438 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. All right, my friend, Thank you? 1439 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,320 Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine for one, Shawn Tolfree telephone number. All right, Jeff, 1440 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: New York the All New AM seven ten w R. 1441 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: How are you sorry? Welcome to the program? Good? How 1442 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 1: are you? This is Jeff Ribbet from water for New York. Shawn. 1443 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to make the comparison of how I believe 1444 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: Rob Muller is behaving very much like Governor Cuomo. You know, 1445 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 1: Governor Cuomo started that Morland Commission, and as it started 1446 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,280 Speaker 1: to point down the road of leading all roads lead 1447 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 1: back to him, he disbanded the commission. And I feel 1448 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 1: like when you look at scenarios like Muller with the 1449 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 1: for example, the attorney that met with Don Junior, all 1450 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, he starts to you know, 1451 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 1: do the investigation, and he goes back to Emon algorrav 1452 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,760 Speaker 1: algorv would definitely talk with Mueller La. Mueller wants to 1453 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: do it under subpoena. And obviously though he's gonna get 1454 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,000 Speaker 1: locked locked up in the United States here, you won't 1455 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 1: be able to leave. It seems like Muller's leaving everything 1456 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,759 Speaker 1: open ended. That's gonna leave back to a button paid 1457 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: for conspiracy. You know. You know, I'm not even sure 1458 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: how much control Muller had in all this, based on 1459 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: what we're now learning. You know, he hires these radicals, 1460 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,160 Speaker 1: These radicals go forward, you know, and write this ridiculous 1461 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 1: two hundred political page document with nothing in it. And 1462 01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,559 Speaker 1: because they found nothing, and you know, if he does 1463 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 1: go and testify, he's gonna have to answer many hard questions. 1464 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 1: Why did he hire Weissman, Why did he hire Genie Ray? 1465 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: Why did he when did he know there was no collusion? 1466 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 1: Why didn't he wrap it up? Then? How did you 1467 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 1: ignore with the wide mandate? How did you ignore the 1468 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,240 Speaker 1: fake Russian dossier that even the New York Times now 1469 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: is called up to us and saying it probably it 1470 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: was Russian misinformation, disinformation meant to impact the twenty sixteen 1471 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,200 Speaker 1: elections right at the center of his mandate, having nothing 1472 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 1: to do with Ukraine from the eighties or tax returns 1473 01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 1: or loan applications or taxi medallions. I think he's got 1474 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of tough questions there, so you know we'll 1475 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: see it again, Are all right, my friend? Yeah, thank 1476 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,479 Speaker 1: you so much. Super appreciate all you do with Sarah Carter, 1477 01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,280 Speaker 1: john Slawman getting out there, good reporting. Thanks also Janine Pierro. 1478 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 1: It's also Joe de General. It's so many I can't 1479 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,200 Speaker 1: say everybody, and I don't want to piss people off. 1480 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 1: Tom Fitt and all these guys have been amazing. All right, 1481 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 1: let's get back to our busy phones. Thank you Dan 1482 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 1: in Michigan, Dan, how are you glad you called? Hey? Son? Good. 1483 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 1: How are you doing, I'm good, sir hey Son. Two 1484 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: quick points. So with attend of general, why do you 1485 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 1: know how they were calling him a political appointing. Well, 1486 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: Nacohler and Lobretta Lance were political appointings, and every attorney 1487 01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 1: general in the history of our country has been enough 1488 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 1: from pointing and appointee, and the people vote for the 1489 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 1: president to make that political appointment. So that's like the 1490 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: stupidest talked point ever. But showing you know the color 1491 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: of law abuse of power prosecutors police. Think about Smellette 1492 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:22,439 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Think about the prosecutor in Baltimore with those 1493 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 1: cops framing them. Think about the attorney general in the 1494 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,639 Speaker 1: state of New York using their officer of political stuff. 1495 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 1: And then of course think about August departminion and the 1496 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,680 Speaker 1: whole thing with Trump the attorney general. This country has 1497 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:42,320 Speaker 1: got to bring color of law political abuse against local politicians, 1498 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: state politicians, and of course the federal like we're talking 1499 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: about they got to be bringing criminal charges as cannot happen, Well, 1500 01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 1: it can't happen, and if you don't hold them accountable. 1501 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 1: There's so many significant issues here. I mean, think nobody 1502 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 1: cared that they tried to rig Berney's primary. They did 1503 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,560 Speaker 1: rig it, and Hillary's faith they tried. They rigged Hillary's investigation. 1504 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 1: It's overwhelming evidence. He can't even dispute it. Even Comey 1505 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,880 Speaker 1: admits they just changed the intent of it and gave 1506 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: her a break. They rigged it and struck him page 1507 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 1: and laughing at it, saying, well, that was all run 1508 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 1: through the Attorney General's office. Nobody gets away with what 1509 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,679 Speaker 1: Hillary did except Hillary. You know, think of Christian Saucier 1510 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 1: six submarine photos and it puts them in jail for 1511 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,040 Speaker 1: a year. Shared it with nobody, you know, it's it's 1512 01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. Anyway, A good call, Thanks Dan, eight 1513 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 1: hundred nine one sewn Toulfrey telephone number. You want to 1514 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,720 Speaker 1: be a part of the program, We will continue on 1515 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: the other side. All right, that's gonna wrap things up 1516 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 1: at today. All right. So the Great One out with 1517 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,960 Speaker 1: an incredible new book, and it's just hitting the bookshelves 1518 01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,599 Speaker 1: today and you can get it on Hannity dot com, 1519 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:57,439 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, bookstores everywhere, and yes, Unfreedom of the Press. 1520 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: A powerful one hour with a great one you don't 1521 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: want to miss. That's tonight. Ninet Eastern on Fox News. Obviously, 1522 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 1: we will be watching developments over the weekend. We're getting 1523 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 1: very close, I believe, to an Inspector General report on FAISA, 1524 01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 1: and the cascade has begun. The avalanche that we've been 1525 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:20,800 Speaker 1: telling you is now coming in full circle. Yes, it's 1526 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,439 Speaker 1: no longer Operation Crossfire Hurricane, it's Operation Boomerang. Have a 1527 01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:39,639 Speaker 1: great weekend. We'll see you Monday.