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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Penny Pierce back with us. She was last

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Speaker 1: with me back in October of twenty seventeen. Very respected

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Speaker 1: international expert on intuition and perception. She's a gifted clairvoyant,

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Speaker 1: an EmPATH, a visionary, and a pioneer in the intuition

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Speaker 1: development movement. She has worked around the planet as a

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Speaker 1: coach and trainer to business and government leaders, psychologists, scientists,

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Speaker 1: and those on a path of spirituality since nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, Penny, you still do a remarkable

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Speaker 1: job for new people too, don't you. Thank you. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be back, George. How are you doing. How

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Speaker 1: are you fighting COVID everything? Okay, I am fine. I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing my mask and doing all the right things. And

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Speaker 1: but you know, I think the pandemic is sort of

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Speaker 1: a paradise for introverts. So that's my life. Is not

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Speaker 1: that sometimes then than it was before? Yeah. Those people

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Speaker 1: who are used to meeting other people and going out,

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Speaker 1: they're going nuts now these days. Yeah. Yeah, So there's

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Speaker 1: enough on zoom these days that you know, it's almost

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Speaker 1: as if you've been going out. How many books do

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Speaker 1: you have out there? Now? Ten? Good for you? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know about transparency, leap or perception frequency that you've

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Speaker 1: got seven others out there. The Intuitive Way was the

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Speaker 1: first one. It's a course on intuition development. And then

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of books on dreams, either dream or

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Speaker 1: not the dream? And yeah, so a lot of different subjects.

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Speaker 1: If we were going to give you a flat out title,

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Speaker 1: what would that be? Would we say that you're the

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Speaker 1: intuitive one, the clairvoyant one. Well, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: was in San Francisco working with the Center for Applied Intuition,

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Speaker 1: they coined a term expert intuitive rather than psychic. They

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Speaker 1: wanted it because we worked with scientists for a while,

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Speaker 1: you know, and more grounded kind of things. So that

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Speaker 1: was one term. But I really feel like my main

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Speaker 1: theme is personal transformation, you know, so maybe a transformation

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Speaker 1: expert or something. What is penny intuition to you? Another

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Speaker 1: term for it would be direct knowing. You know, it

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Speaker 1: is not logic and not left brain perception where you're

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Speaker 1: analytical and you're giving meanings to everything. It's almost a

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Speaker 1: like direct connection with the what would you call it

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Speaker 1: the imaginal realm, the whole realm of all knowledge, and

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Speaker 1: when you ask a question, you get the answer immediately,

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Speaker 1: You get an answer that's appropriate, let's say, for that

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Speaker 1: moment immediately part of the physical brain or is it

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Speaker 1: outside of it. I think it's related a lot to

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Speaker 1: the right brain, but I think it's also related to

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Speaker 1: body sensitivity, to the heart, you know, to energy sensitivity,

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Speaker 1: as we're getting into more or empathic senses now, you know,

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Speaker 1: we get impressions, and I think we're we're all becoming

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Speaker 1: very sensitive these days, so that we're picking up energy

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Speaker 1: information that's pre verbal, you know. It's it's just like animals, do,

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Speaker 1: you know, And and we're having to learn how to

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Speaker 1: decode some of that stuff so that we maybe get

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Speaker 1: our insights at an earlier stage. But I think everybody

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Speaker 1: has that sense that life is accelerating and and time

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Speaker 1: is getting faster and faster. Almost everything's kind of coming

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Speaker 1: into I think of that as this vast present moment,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that has swallowed up the past in

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Speaker 1: the future, and everything's really in this huge oneness at

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Speaker 1: this point, sometimes too fast. Have you ever met anybody, Penny,

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Speaker 1: that was just so intuitive. I mean, it just boggled

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Speaker 1: your mind. I yes, I have known a couple of

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Speaker 1: trance mediums that were amazingly accurate about everything they talked about,

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Speaker 1: almost like they just excuse me, we're talking right out

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Speaker 1: of what we would call the Akashic records, like the

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Speaker 1: memory banks of the planet. They just knew things, didn't they. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a real special gift. But the

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Speaker 1: way I talk about things, it's kind of like, well,

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Speaker 1: everybody can develop your intuition. It's a natural human gift,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's not to be so weird and special.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to make it more like the new normal.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed with me, Penny, over the years that the

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Speaker 1: more I interview experts like you, the more intuitive I

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Speaker 1: tend to be. I mean, just you know, in there's

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Speaker 1: And but there are states in your body actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to react to my intuition much more than

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Speaker 1: I did years ago. You know, years ago you get

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Speaker 1: more you work with intuition, I think, the more you

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Speaker 1: trust the flow, if you want to call it that,

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Speaker 1: or you trust what arises in your present moment as

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Speaker 1: a next thing to pay attention to, and you notice

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Speaker 1: these things more. So my practice now is like, notice

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Speaker 1: what you're noticing, because everybody notices different things throughout the day,

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Speaker 1: and that's the way we make life meaningful to ourselves,

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Speaker 1: that sequencing of things that you notice. And then I

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Speaker 1: have a dialogue with myself, Well, why did I just

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Speaker 1: notice that? Yeah, exactly right? And what am I trying

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Speaker 1: to my intuition. It I guess I learned the hard way. Well,

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Speaker 1: intuition often comes quietly through the body, like like you said,

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Speaker 1: If it's really bad, really, other people their their throat

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to those subtle states. Yeah, you can,

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Speaker 1: there's no question about it. We're with Penny Pearce, and

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Speaker 1: of course her name's spelled differently, first and last name different. Now,

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Speaker 1: who did that to you? Your parents? Are you? Thank

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Now. In your book, one of your books,

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Speaker 1: I think your last book was Transparency Seen through our

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Speaker 1: Expanded Human Capacity. What do you mean by transparency in

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Speaker 1: like about information right coming forward. Yeah, and you can.

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Speaker 1: We're not hiding anything, But when you think of it

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Speaker 1: in terms of our own you know, spiritual development, to me,

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Speaker 1: So transparency is really to me, it's about the idea

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Speaker 1: I needed. What is the shift, Penny into the intuition age?

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