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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I I was asked to step in for and

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Speaker 2: I thought it would be fun too, instead of trying

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Speaker 2: to do what it is Tori does, because toy is

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Speaker 2: very specific in her Toy is a she.

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Speaker 3: She's a one of a kind human being, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I figured, instead of that, let's, uh, let's do

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Speaker 2: a few episodes where we bring in people that she's

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Speaker 2: had on whether they're past guests, there are people that

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Speaker 2: she worked with Onno.

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Speaker 3: Two and O.

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Speaker 2: They're family members, they're really good friends, and let's kind

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Speaker 2: of get some stories and get just a just a

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Speaker 2: little toy. Love is kind of is kind of what

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Speaker 2: we're going for. So now I know you you worked

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Speaker 2: on love Boat.

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Speaker 1: I did how old?

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Speaker 3: How old were you when when you were doing that?

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Speaker 1: I think I started around ten or eleven something like that.

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Speaker 3: I know, And I went to me, and how long

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Speaker 3: did you do that for?

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Speaker 1: Till I was nineteen?

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Speaker 3: Wow? So like nine years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah wow? And how was how was that working

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Speaker 2: working for Aaron at that point?

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Speaker 1: Well? He was just an amazed well you know, he

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Speaker 1: was an amazing producer, an amazing man, just a heart

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Speaker 1: of gold. I was so fortunate that it was him

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Speaker 1: who he who was my boss. I just there's nothing

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Speaker 1: I can say about him that isn't all about love.

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Speaker 1: I just adored him so much.

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Speaker 2: I always say to people, like he had the incredible

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Speaker 2: ability of being incredibly kind and generous and really giving

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Speaker 2: you all of himself and being very personable. But then

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Speaker 2: at the same time, he was very intelligent when it

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Speaker 2: came to business like he did not he did not

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Speaker 2: miss a beat when it came to business going down

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Speaker 2: the right way. So it was it was really cool

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Speaker 2: to see him doing both. And I know, like love

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Speaker 2: Boat right now two and oh was such a massive

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Speaker 2: success at the time it was on. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 2: was really groundbreaking as far as what you could what

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Speaker 2: you could market and do with a television show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty incredible. And Love Boat was

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Speaker 1: in the same way. I mean. And that's the thing

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Speaker 1: about Aaron and you just touched on it, is that

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Speaker 1: he there are very few people who have the kind

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Speaker 1: of staying power that that he. There's a you know,

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Speaker 1: there's Shonda Rhymes, there's Dick Wolf, whatever, But there was

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Speaker 1: something about the way he really understood what it was

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Speaker 1: that people wanted to watch and how to meet them

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Speaker 1: at their level, to create entertainment that wasn't just you know,

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Speaker 1: a Thursday night show or a Saturday night show show.

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Speaker 1: It was stuff that's stuck with people. I mean, my god,

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Speaker 1: people are still watching both of our shows. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: reruns and have been it's never been off the air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He had he had a brand of television and entertaining

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Speaker 2: really cool to see and to understand what his thought

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Speaker 2: process was of everything. The colors being brighter than other shows, Uh,

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Speaker 2: it just looking a certain way. So even when somebody

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Speaker 2: only four at that point, at the point of nine

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Speaker 2: two and oh there were three right when Love Bow

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Speaker 2: was on, right Lucky, they'd see our show and they go, oh,

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Speaker 2: what is this. Whether they watched it or not, they'd

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Speaker 2: want to watch it because it was it was a

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Speaker 2: reprieve from a long day at work, and it kind

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Speaker 2: be entertained and not have to not have to cure

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Speaker 2: cancer while you were watching something thing and figure out

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Speaker 1: On exactly exactly, and that's why. And people who did

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Speaker 1: our show always loved doing our show so much because

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Speaker 1: because Aaron was so generous. People would say it was

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Speaker 1: because they were treated like human beings rather than, you know,

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Speaker 2: So you feel like the cast was a big part

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Speaker 1: Our cast, we were I mean, we were extremely lucky

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Speaker 1: This is our house and we are inviting people to

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Speaker 1: I play this character. If you need anything, let me

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Speaker 1: show you where craft services is. This is where the

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Speaker 1: makeup room is. My trailer is always open if you

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Speaker 1: want to come and say hello. And that's the way

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Speaker 1: it was. And so people would say when they walked

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Speaker 1: on our set, you know that is it's like the

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Speaker 1: Sometimes some sets, nobody ever talks to you except for

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Speaker 1: the actors don't talk to you unless they're repeating their

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Speaker 2: Well, especially for a show as big as Love Boat

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Speaker 2: like it's so important because people will come on and

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Speaker 2: they'd be so intimidated by what it is they were

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Speaker 2: not cooler than anybody else that's coming in. So it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that starts with air, you know,

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Speaker 3: And then how old was Tory when you first met her.

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Speaker 1: She was a little peanut, she was a little Yeah, God,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think we're what are we five or

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Speaker 1: And I can't believe she wasn't intimidated, but she wasn't

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Speaker 3: And wait, so did she do a scene on the show.

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Speaker 2: Right, But was it for your show or was it

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Speaker 1: I think it was just a general thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: just I mean, I just remember we're thinking, Wow, it's

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Speaker 2: For us when we were doing the show, it was

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Speaker 2: she was, being Aaron's daughter, she could have been the

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Speaker 2: She was the sweetest, she was the most considerate. She

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Speaker 3: Yes you did? You just did her podcast? Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 1: And it was so funny because my god, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You, I know, the two youngest, and we were just

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Speaker 1: I just feel completely not as adept as you people

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Speaker 1: but we talked about all this stuff, and I think

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Speaker 1: affection and love, and so we have that. We have

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Speaker 3: Of course, that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: Tori's had goats, She's had chickens, She's one of those,

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Speaker 3: So Highland now makes perfect sense because they're incredibly cute.

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Speaker 1: God they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's my next thing.

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Speaker 1: I want a feinting goat, do you really?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm really one of those ones that you can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, however they fall over. That's what I want. It's

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Speaker 1: my goal. These are goals in life. My husband, of course,

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'll take.

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Speaker 2: It well and until it's a highland cow and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah what uh what?

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Speaker 2: So Toy's incredibly fun to be around. What were the

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Speaker 1: Now? I think we both have a really quirky sense

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Speaker 3: Respect almost to a fault.

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Speaker 2: Like there's certain points where it's like you have to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally identify with that because I'm the same way.

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Speaker 1: why yesterday I did I made eighteen chicken pot pies

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Speaker 3: Over, well, eighteen isn't enough for an entire year.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that the eighteenth one tastes that good

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Speaker 1: It's like a bottle of wine. Nor totally Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: I need a year of ratching off the freezer burn.

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Speaker 3: You're like, this is it's not supposed to look like

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Speaker 2: right now, exactly exactly okay.

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Speaker 1: So so, but we bonded over all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think we bonded over being moms and not having

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to ask which number that is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we bonded over all of that stuff, and

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Speaker 2: We can take a person amazing as long as you're

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Speaker 2: If I were the show, I would still be I

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Speaker 3: I got it.

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Speaker 1: I promise I don't mess around with alcohol. I take

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Speaker 2: I okay, well so do I. So I think I

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Speaker 2: kind of feel like you know you should. You should

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Speaker 3: To do anything that's.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a quitter.

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Speaker 2: You are not a quitter. No, Jill, thank thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for doing this. I think sure Toy's gonna

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Speaker 2: watch watch all these and listen to all these, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to make her feel really good

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Speaker 1: Well, you give her a big hug for me. You

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Speaker 1: tell her I adore her and I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see her soon. And thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a great time.

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Speaker 3: I will for sure. Thank you, Jill, Thank you,