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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, and welcome to this Labor Day weekend edition

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Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford.

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Speaker 1: He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from

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Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field and West. Since they did

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Speaker 1: the roster cuts on a Tuesday, we figured why not

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Speaker 1: we'll post a Packers Unscripted on a Saturday. Let's just

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Speaker 1: keep changing things up, right, Nothing about this week is normal. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't don't fight it, just roll with it, right, just

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Speaker 1: roll with it. So well, Hey, I want to start

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Speaker 1: today's discussion though, talking about the Packers Wide Receiver group.

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Speaker 1: You have a story that UH posted on our website

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com talking about this group collectively. Now we

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Speaker 1: know who the number one is, Davante Adams. We talked

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Speaker 1: on our last show about the number six, Malie Taylor

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Speaker 1: and him securing that last roster spot at the position.

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Speaker 1: The real intrigue with this position group is those four

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Speaker 1: guys in the middle, obviously talking about Marcos Valdi, Scanling,

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Speaker 1: Al Lazard, Randall Cobb and A Marii Rodgers. It's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting collection in the type of collection of receivers

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Speaker 1: in terms of the varied skill sets and experience levels

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Speaker 1: and all of that. The type of collection the Packers

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Speaker 1: haven't really had around here for quite a while long time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I go back to two thousand fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Remember Mike McCarthy and his staff are kind of catching

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Speaker 1: some flak because it was a lot of the same

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel. Now, I think a big thing about that

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Speaker 1: is that was pretty definitive who their top three receivers are,

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Speaker 1: who their tight end was, and ultimately who they're running back.

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Speaker 1: Was just to clarify, eleven personnel is one running back,

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Speaker 1: one tight end, and three wide receivers. That's what you're talking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and yeah, it wasn't so much for a lack

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Speaker 1: of creativity. It's just that that those are kind of

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Speaker 1: the options, right. What I like about the way the

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Speaker 1: Packers have built this thing over the last two or

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Speaker 1: three years is even wrote in the story it's more

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Speaker 1: of a menu than it is a depth chart. Because,

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Speaker 1: as Mark was Abolt the Scantling said, in a lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys have talked about this offseason, nobody does

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Speaker 1: basically the same thing as another guy. You're not mixing

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Speaker 1: your personnel for the sake of getting different guys on

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Speaker 1: the field, You're mixing your personnel depending on what kind

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Speaker 1: of look you want to give the defense. Now that

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Speaker 1: extends to the tight end rooms with Robert Tonyan, with

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Speaker 1: Mark with Mercedes Lewis. That extends to the backfield with

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Speaker 1: three very different running backs, different body types at that position.

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Speaker 1: But most importantly, I think it's receiver because you have

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Speaker 1: the downfield threat of Mark was Veld, this Scantling, a

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Speaker 1: guy that has developed more as a route runner and

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Speaker 1: an underneath receiver. You have the goon Alan Wizard, a

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Speaker 1: guy that does the nitty gritty stuff but also can

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Speaker 1: also burn you for a hundred yards too if he

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Speaker 1: needs to know. Randall Cobb I think is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really intriguing fit. He gives them the slot receiver

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Speaker 1: the Packers really have lacked since he left the first time.

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Speaker 1: And then a Mari Rodgers, certainly the rookie third round pick.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Davanta Adams. You're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 1: of DAVANTAE sees that if he's healthy. But the four

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Speaker 1: guys on the field with Adams or three, if you

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Speaker 1: end up seeing a lot of Aaron Jones, that's where

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Speaker 1: the entrgue lies with this Packers offense. Yeah, I really

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Speaker 1: loved that line, that that term from Matt Lafleur when

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Speaker 1: I had asked him after the Buffalo Bills after the

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Speaker 1: last preseason game just about the receiver group in general,

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Speaker 1: because this was actually before we knew who the sixth

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Speaker 1: was going to be. But I asked him about, you know,

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Speaker 1: knowing essentially going into training camp barring injury, we knew

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Speaker 1: who the top five receivers were going to be that

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Speaker 1: would make this roster, and what he thought of the group,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of went through him one by one

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Speaker 1: and he used that term goon for Alan Lazar. Now,

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Speaker 1: I took it as sort of a comparison to to

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Speaker 1: like the in hockey, where you call a guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: a goon because he kind of he stirs it up

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Speaker 1: and he's kind of the enforcer and you know, willing

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Speaker 1: to do the dirty work and whatnot, as you said,

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Speaker 1: But it's also a term of endearment in some respects

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Speaker 1: because that's not all at the guy brings to the table, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's part of his role. And Alan

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Speaker 1: lazarren is probably the best blocking receiver that the Packers have,

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Speaker 1: but yet we've seen him make plenty of plays down

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Speaker 1: the field, a couple of big ones against the Saints

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Speaker 1: last year before he got injured, made the big clinching

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Speaker 1: when he got behind the defense. So um, I'm really intrigued,

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Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued to see where things go with him,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously with Velde's scantling MVS. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: remember the drop passes and some of the frustrations and

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Speaker 1: all this, and and I'll say this, I think I've

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Speaker 1: said it an insider inbox and in other places as well.

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Speaker 1: You and I are at training camp practice every day,

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Speaker 1: and this is the first time I can remember since

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Speaker 1: Valdes's scantling has been here where it felt like on

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Speaker 1: pretty much a daily basis, he was a presence on

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Speaker 1: the practice field. There were in past summers, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he had bad training camps, but in past

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Speaker 1: summers there would be two, three, four days in a

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Speaker 1: he was. Yeah, he's running his routes and taking his reps,

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Speaker 1: but he's not really there. This summer, it felt like

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Speaker 1: well for for what could be ahead for MVS. A

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Speaker 1: couple of things I really like about MBS. One that

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Speaker 1: he never gets enough credit for it. Guys really durable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't miss much time. That's true. It's

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Speaker 1: been out there and forgot that. That's that fast. Typically

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Speaker 1: some hamstring injury, flat ups. That's the guy that takes

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Speaker 1: care of his body. He makes sure that he's accountable

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Speaker 1: to his teammates and and really brings it every single day.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, everybody wants to talk about, Okay, there

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Speaker 1: was a drop there, there's a drop there. Can you

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Speaker 1: live with them? All that stuff that that has happened

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Speaker 1: in the past. But what I want fans and people

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game, or make sure you remember some

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Speaker 1: of these other games too, because those are the games

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Speaker 1: that the opponent is having to watch on film. Those

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Speaker 1: are the examples where this is where this guy is

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Speaker 1: and what makes him so dangerous. I feel in this

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Speaker 1: like Alan Lazard. When you have a superstar like Davante Adams,

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Speaker 1: the number six ranked player amongst his peers of the

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Speaker 1: National Football League right now, He's not just a guy

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Speaker 1: that you can just put a safety over the top

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Speaker 1: of MVS that is, and just try to take him

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Speaker 1: out of a game. You don't have as many resources

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Speaker 1: to do that. In the secondary. You have to be

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Speaker 1: cognizant of where he is and you've gotta be really

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Speaker 1: careful with how you handle that matchup. This is not

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Speaker 1: an easy game. It is a difficult position to play.

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Speaker 1: The important thing with MBS is for all the orbs

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Speaker 1: to pull through all of it. And I thought he

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Speaker 1: had one of his best performances in the Packers uniform

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Speaker 1: in the NFC title game. I don't even go back

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Speaker 1: to last year's training camp, like the two guys, I said,

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Speaker 1: it was him and it was Rashan Gary. I thought

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Speaker 1: MBS had a better camp this year, but he really

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Speaker 1: did stand out to me last year with what he

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Speaker 1: was doing, giving you signs that, Okay, he's gonna bounce

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Speaker 1: back from that nineteen season. Remembers telling people if if

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Speaker 1: Gary and MBS don't perform, I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: preseason or what the training camp is even good for,

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Speaker 1: because to me, those guys really stood out, and I

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Speaker 1: think going into year four, you're gonna see him take another. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with you. It certainly seems to be

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Speaker 1: setting up that way. And you and I were noticing

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Speaker 1: and all of those comments are genuine. I'm just the

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Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is that you and I

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Speaker 1: were noticing this on the practice field before his teammates

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Speaker 1: something that noticed with him, and now it has to

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Speaker 1: carry over from training camp from the practice field to

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Speaker 1: the games. We have to see that. Obviously, these guys

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Speaker 1: we need to see it carry over. But everything is,

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Speaker 1: everything is setting up, The stage is being set here

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Speaker 1: for something that that could be a pretty big year

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Speaker 1: for MVS. And they are gonna have a really difficult

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Speaker 1: the Saints here in a week and a half, no question.

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Speaker 1: But I'm really Mike, the thing I'm most excited to

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Speaker 1: they allocate these reps, seeing which receivers play, how much

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Speaker 1: they play, who's in the backfield, who's that tight end there? Again, Mike,

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Speaker 1: there were years where it's like, okay, well you can

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Speaker 1: and it's something that could change week to week. It's

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Speaker 1: not like we're gonna look at the snap counts for

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Speaker 1: Late this past week Thursday evening, a long awaited Packers

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Speaker 1: rescheduled multiple times. All that Packers Hall of Fame induction

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Speaker 1: for Charles Woodson and Al Harris, and well, I what

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Speaker 1: I wrote about on our Packers website. Both of those

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Speaker 1: guys talked about it that. Uh, it's almost two fitting

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Speaker 1: of Fame together because u um, they really were. They

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Speaker 1: four years two thousand six through two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: but that was a special pair that the Packers had

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Speaker 1: them get this honor together. Great job are you covering that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving me off on Thursday, you know,

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Speaker 1: afternoon and evening, be able to get home a littlettle

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Speaker 1: we'll start previewing a Week one against the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: With that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition

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Speaker 1: on packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you

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