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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm one of your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Becca Koufran, and I'm Michelle Young, and we are back

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Speaker 1: this week to get you into the second episode of

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor. And today we have our guest Catherine. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are so excited to be speaking with this lady.

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Speaker 1: We're chatting with Katherine. We're gonna hear all about the

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Speaker 1: group date Rose, all about everything that went on. But

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Speaker 1: first before we bring here on, Becca, what were your

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Speaker 1: talkts on this episode? My thoughts on this epode? Okay,

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Speaker 1: number one, I want to say this, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I really like this group of women. I think we're

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Speaker 1: seeing more of like this camaraderie between them and this

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Speaker 1: support system, which I think is so important I think

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Speaker 1: for any cast member in this scenario, because you're so

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Speaker 1: removed from like your normal life and your core group

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Speaker 1: of people, that they really are leaning on each other

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Speaker 1: and supporting one another, which I personally love to see.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I had a lot of that on

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Speaker 1: my season two and it's kind of good to be

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Speaker 1: able to witness that instead of like all the cattiness

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Speaker 1: and the fighting, which I'm sure that will come eventually,

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Speaker 1: but that was like the standout thing for me in

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Speaker 1: this episode what about you? I Okay, that's so interesting

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Speaker 1: that you bring that up, because the candianness in the fighting,

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Speaker 1: I think it always comes. But it's so interesting to

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Speaker 1: just like watch these episodes because one, I do feel

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Speaker 1: like with this season we're getting a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of like background information on the contestants, just with even

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Speaker 1: like how the editing is going. But also it's so

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Speaker 1: interesting to see like the whole concept when you're in

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Speaker 1: a position and you're all dating the same person and

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Speaker 1: you're human and you have emotions, but like when they're like,

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Speaker 1: well are you really happy for them? When someone else

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Speaker 1: gets like the group date rows or they get chosen

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Speaker 1: to go on the one on one, or they get pulled,

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Speaker 1: or they kiss Zack for the first time. It's so

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Speaker 1: interesting because there was a conversation between the women of

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Speaker 1: how can you actually be genuinely that happy? Like they're

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Speaker 1: dating the same person you're dating. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that? I feel like I'm the wrong person to

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Speaker 1: ask because when I was a contestant, I was that

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Speaker 1: girl and I loved so many of the girls, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like we formed really great friendships that I

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Speaker 1: was like I'm so happy you get to go on

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Speaker 1: the state, you go explore and have fun. And maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe it was a little bit because and this is

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Speaker 1: a little bit hard to explain, but like when you're

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Speaker 1: constantly filming, like the days are really long, especially like

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Speaker 1: when you get a one on one date or a

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Speaker 1: group date, like it's a lot. You're constantly in interviews

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Speaker 1: or having girl chads or talking with the lead and

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Speaker 1: there's like really no downtime. So maybe a part of

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I don't have to go on

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Speaker 1: a date, and this girl gets you on the one

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Speaker 1: on one and now I can kind of relax. Like

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Speaker 1: maybe there was some of that in the back of

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Speaker 1: my mind, but I really, for the most part, was

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Speaker 1: happy for some of the girls. Maybe it's a Minnesota

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Speaker 1: thing because I feel I feel very much similar where

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Speaker 1: it's not like this over the top excitement because you're

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Speaker 1: still there to like seek it out, but you also

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Speaker 1: enter the situation knowing the circumstances and so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of almost like an open relationship. And so it's like

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Speaker 1: if I just sat there, it was pissed off every

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Speaker 1: time somebody was going on a date, like I know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on every date. You don't

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Speaker 1: get to go on every possible It's not possible. So

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Speaker 1: it's just interesting to hear the girls just kind of

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Speaker 1: really is about right well. And two, I understand where

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Speaker 1: it would be very off putting later on in the

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Speaker 1: season when you actually really establish a connection you've spend

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Speaker 1: any sort of a lone time with the lead. I

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Speaker 1: understand why at that point you'd be like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see him kissing anyone else, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear about this magical date you had.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's week one. They like haven't even

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Speaker 1: just roll with the punches again. You you said it best,

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Speaker 1: like you know what you're getting into. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: it time. It's only going to get harder. So like,

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Speaker 1: try not to put so much stress and anxiety on

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Speaker 1: be happier in the long run, I think, right, But

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Speaker 1: don't even know who it was because someone was interviewing.

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Speaker 1: It was like a voiceover, but all the girls were

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Speaker 1: showing like running out of the mansion to like we

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Speaker 1: finally get to get out of the house. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we're just getting started, y'all. Yeah, we'll just be away

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Speaker 1: till week three, Okay. Can we have about some of

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Speaker 1: the conversations. There were like little snippets throughout this episode

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Speaker 1: which I actually loved, Like one was about the kissing

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Speaker 1: And actually, I'm excited to have Catherine on today because

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Speaker 1: really want to ask her about that because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: like how do we feel about a little peck or

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Speaker 1: you know, And so I want to pick her brain

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Speaker 1: this conversation about how exposed you are in front of

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Speaker 1: your partner in terms of bodily functions. I think it

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Speaker 1: episode where the girls were talking about like going to

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Speaker 1: didn't stand on this. It is so funny because the

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Speaker 1: show is about it is about romance and love and drama,

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Speaker 1: but you see these women with just lavish dresses and

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Speaker 1: enjoying the relatability because we were like last episode it

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Speaker 1: and now we're talking about wait do you not used

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Speaker 1: to do you expelt like bodily fluids? How do you

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Speaker 1: relable side, which I appreciate I and I love it

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Speaker 1: too because keep in mind, like when you're seeing these

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Speaker 1: always look good. They're in their heels, their gowns, full

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Speaker 1: so this is oh my gosh, I see I already.

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Speaker 1: Really it's not that I don't get uncomfortable, but it

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Speaker 1: was it's just more of it. I've lived with a

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Speaker 1: have an issue if other people are speaking about it,

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Speaker 1: but like I'm never documenting or announcing when I'm going

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Speaker 1: But I will say, like I side with the girls

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Speaker 1: about her being a mom and having her beautiful daughter,

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Speaker 1: and so I think the entire date was teet up

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Speaker 1: taking a moment being like, you know, I want kids

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Speaker 1: like I need to process potentially like bringing this child

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Speaker 1: don't know, did you date anyone on your season that

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Speaker 1: that moved out a slower point where Christina really brought

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Speaker 1: I understand that if this is not something that you're

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Speaker 1: it really is difficult for both parties because you don't

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Speaker 1: as a parent, I'm sure you're away from your you're

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Speaker 1: that they're ready as well. But then as a lead,

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Speaker 1: have to keep them here, and what if I keep

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Speaker 1: else's time. It's really tricky. Did you have anybody on

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Speaker 1: your season? No, from what I can remember, remember I

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Speaker 1: don't think any of the men had kids, so I

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Speaker 1: never had to encounter that. And and I like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how I would have responded, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I would have needed I'm somebody who like needs time

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Speaker 1: to process things like something big like that, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like even in one night, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: like can I give somebody this rose right now? It's

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Speaker 1: and I think he you know, he obviously saw something

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Speaker 1: like that. So what were your thoughts the like when

430
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 1: you walk into you see the stage and Loto comes out?

431
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: What was everyone thinking in that moment? Oh? I gosh.

432
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: There's so many thoughts going at once that it's hard

433
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: to put into words to what was exactly happening. Um,

434
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: But I think initially I was just like, holy shit,

435
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 1: what's about to happen? We're about to walk her ust

436
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: to stage? Are you about to walk her us stage? Like?

437
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: She's beautiful? Zach looks great. It was so much at once,

438
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: but we had still no idea what we were about

439
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: to do. The venue was really they had all these

440
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: different colors and stuff that made it really cool. But

441
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: there was a lot of emotions at that point, still

442
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: very nerve wracking. I assumed somehow we were gonna be

443
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: up there, didn't know how, but we were gonna make

444
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: our way. Did you feel like there's gonna be like fashion?

445
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: Did you feel like they were pressure like a lot

446
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: of pressure on your shoulders from the guests m finished.

447
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: Some people seem to feel so initially, like when I

448
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: obviously their icons and there somewhe that I felt like

449
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: they were coming unless to like at first give us

450
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: like advice, like help us kind of get into our

451
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: own and like feel comfortable being ourselves. So the pressure

452
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: was I didn't really feel it necessarily. I think I

453
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: was feeling more pressure like I don't want to make

454
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: for in front of act but because I don't know

455
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna trip on the way all down that run, right,

456
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: But I really felt like a sense of like they

457
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: were there to help us kind of, So I wasn't

458
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: really feeling so much they were there to like not

459
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: be in our corner. Yeah. So, just to give a

460
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: recap to any of our listeners who maybe missed this episode,

461
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: the guest judges were we had Tajuan Corney Robertson, who

462
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: was from ben Plantic season, and then Victoria Fuller. When

463
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: those three women walked out, did you recognize all three

464
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: or did you need like a little recap from anyone.

465
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: I only recognize Victoria Fuller, and she's because I watched

466
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Peters season, so I was standing girling pretty hard, not

467
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Yeah, And then I learned to Portney Robinson

468
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: and Tajuan more later on. But I didn't initially know

469
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: who they were from the get, but they seemed like

470
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: just their whole aura was like, Okay, I'm here and

471
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: i've maybe I've been here, I've been in your shoes.

472
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm here to help you, but also like I'm gonna

473
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: bring it to Yeah, like bad bitches truly, yes, tell

474
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: us real real talk though, real talk. Though before that,

475
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: did you consider and do you consider yourself a bad bitch? Oh?

476
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: Of course yeah, of course, no hesitation none. Yes, I

477
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: mean in this Danny, you have to as a woman

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: to always be able to channel that energy absolutely. What

479
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: was your favorite part of that day? Because they had

480
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: they split it up. I mean you had like the

481
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: dancing thing at the very beginning, the runway where you

482
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: all walked out and I think you had the cowboy

483
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: hat correct, yeah I did, so you had a good

484
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: crop that was that was great, um, and then you

485
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: had to do like the stand up thing where you

486
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: had to go and explain like one moment in your past,

487
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: like what made you a bad bitch? Um? What was

488
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: your favorite part of like those three moments. And then

489
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: was there somebody else that like really stuck out to

490
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: you too that you were like, oh damn, she's a

491
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: bad bitch. Oh yeah. So my favorite moment actually was

492
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: in the beginning when we had our dance party. I

493
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: like love a good dance party that like we were

494
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: all on the stage and Zach was like showing his

495
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: side too, So that was really fun to seek me initially,

496
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: I need to ask this. He is not a good dancer, right,

497
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't just me, you know, right. I thought it

498
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: was so precious. I was like, oh my god, like

499
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I can help you. Like, let's I was standing next time,

500
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, go with me, like we got this,

501
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: Like I let me help you. But it was cute.

502
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: I thought I was endearing. I made for effort. Yeah

503
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: it was. He was trying right like yeah, yeah, I

504
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: think you're all like. So it was everyone's first day,

505
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: like it was everyone's first moment coming off a night one.

506
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: So it was so great for us to have that

507
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: time to like kind of get into our own before

508
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: we're about to go do some things that were very vulnerable.

509
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: But that was my favorite part personally. And then I

510
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: would say that honestly, I was really surprised by Brianna's story.

511
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: She told a really heartfelt story about how she came

512
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: into who she is today and like you know, making

513
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: her own company and where she lived in different countries

514
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: and stuff, And I thought that was like the definition

515
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: of being at that pitch. To be able to do

516
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: that is like alone and to be who you are

517
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: right now and for us to really like I would

518
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: have never known that unless she opened up about it,

519
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really humbling and awesome. It

520
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: is such a vulnerable environment where it's oh, you're being

521
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: vulnerable with the person that you're seeing if there's going

522
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: to be a future, or you're being vulnerable with like

523
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: an activity that you typically don't do. What's more nerve

524
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: wracking for you to open up in front of Zach

525
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: or to open up in front of the girls and

526
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: judges and judges. There's a lot of people. There's a

527
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: lot of people there and the cameras. You know, yeah,

528
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: you're like just a couple of million people. No big deal,

529
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: no big deal. Oh all in all, I think in

530
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: that moment, if I can go back, I was feeling

531
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: the most vulnerable and like worried obviously with Zach because

532
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: like I was really because I knew there were so

533
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: many moving parts, so many eyes at once, Like I

534
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: made it a point to only like focus it on

535
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: him and like make sure I was talking only to

536
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: him when I was telling my story, and like intentional

537
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: eye contact and like that kind of helped me feel

538
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: better and like a little bit more comfortable when I could.

539
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: It helped me like block everything else out. But in

540
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: a way, it was still really scary. Girls. I feel

541
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: like even then, even though it looks like there's been

542
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: no time pass, we obviously spent like eighteen hours together

543
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: all night, like we've already developed friendships, Like we had

544
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: a whole bus ride there and everything we moved in together.

545
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: So I felt at ease with them too. Yeah, but yeah,

546
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: did you have any strategy going in throughout the day,

547
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes like people on group dates will

548
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: be like I need to stand out, like I need

549
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: to make a name for myself, I have to do

550
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: something wild or like was that kind of your mindset

551
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: or were you just like I'm just gonna have fun

552
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: and see where this goes, Like what was the strategy there?

553
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I truly just wanted to have fun with it because

554
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: I felt like if I was just like being myself

555
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: and having fun, then the best thing can come out

556
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: of it. I think if I thought too hard, it

557
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: probably act like a weirdo, so and I know that

558
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: about myself. So I was really just like going with

559
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: the flow, not trying to think too much into it.

560
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was making it like a point

561
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: to only focus in on him and help block everything

562
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: else out and help ease my in that way. But yeah, no,

563
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: there wasn't really any strategy. You can't really make strategy

564
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: at that point. Social idea, Yeah, you have no idea

565
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: what's going on. You've never been on a group date before. Like,

566
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: you're just like whatever happens whatever. Honestly, if anything, I

567
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: was trying to play it safe because I didn't want

568
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: it to be like too much, right. So yeah, well

569
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: you conquered it regardless. You made it through the whole

570
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: day portion of the group date, and then now you

571
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: are heading into your first cock to a party. What

572
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: was going through your head when you're going into that

573
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: night portion. Going into the night portion, I would say

574
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: I was really still really excited because I did have

575
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of fun on that date. And I think

576
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the activities that we did kind of helped us all

577
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: kind of get into our own and feel comfortable with

578
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: ourselves because there was a lot of parts that came

579
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: with it, and in turn, that made us be able

580
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: to have more comfortable conversations with Zach. So I was

581
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: feeling like I was about to just be able to

582
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: have more serious or deeper moments at him. So I

583
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: was excited to just keep growing in our relationship after

584
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: having a whole date like that, And um, we were tired,

585
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: for sure, but yeah, still like your gentleman is running,

586
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: so like you like, get how tired you are, You're

587
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: having he right, So it seemed like everything was going

588
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: swimmingly between Zak and his connections and his conversations with

589
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: the women. It seemed and this is something too, I

590
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: called it at the beginning. I loved the camaraderie between

591
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: the women. It seems like you all really supported each

592
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: other and you know, you don't always show it did

593
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: very like real friendships. Um, so it all seemed great

594
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: until Tajuan comes in with the curveball and she ended

595
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: up crashing the group date to pursue something with Zach

596
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: and I think it was Kat who came back and

597
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: broke that news to you. Correct, So like as the group,

598
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: like this collective group of women together, you know, we're

599
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: already all trying to do the same man. What was

600
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: it like hearing that that, like potentially one other bad

601
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: bitch just came in to maybe steal him? Um? Okay, Honestly,

602
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: my first thought was like, can you come back tomorrow,

603
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: like we're it's really late in the night, like we

604
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: can have a conversation about this, Like like I was

605
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I can't believe this is happening right now. Also,

606
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know actually in that current moment that she

607
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: was there to pursue him, right, Like we just hear

608
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Tajuan's here, and I'm like, okay, so this like part

609
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: of the day portion, like what's going on? Like m

610
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: are we are she here to pursue him? Or is

611
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: she here to just like come kid us more corners?

612
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Like I really we didn't know at that moment until

613
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: we went over to her and asked what was up.

614
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: But when she Kat first told us, we were all

615
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: just like huh, like what's happening? Right? But yeah, we

616
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: could have we had an idea, but it was still

617
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: not not confirmed the whole purpose of her coming was

618
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: and then and you didn't find that out until you

619
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: all went to chat with her. Correct, Yeah, we're okay, okay,

620
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: So well, I think we were having some mis community.

621
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: We didn't know if she was talking to him, and

622
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: we didn't want to like interrupt, you know, so we

623
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't know like when or how we could walk over there.

624
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: But finally we were all just like, okay, let's just

625
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: go see what's going on, right, And then that's when

626
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: we asked her, and still didn't really get a direct answer.

627
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: It was mostly like just being told we didn't bring it.

628
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: So that's what I got caught like, that's what I

629
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: got caught off guard with. And as a viewer, I

630
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: was still in that moment thinking that she was just

631
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: coming in to give advice. But even then, I'm like

632
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: that it's not how you relay that. So I'm not

633
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: sure how that point was, but I'm curious of your

634
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: thoughts of one when she said her piece about how

635
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: you guys performed, and then it turned this transitions into

636
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: all of you can gout and we'll see you processing. Wait,

637
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: so you actually are here to talk to him, But

638
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: she made this comment. She said, if you feel and shoot,

639
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was an interview or not,

640
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: or if it's directly to you guys, but she said,

641
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: if you feel that you're uncomfortable, or if you're uncomfortable

642
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: by my conversation with Zach, then that says a lot

643
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: about who you are, kind of hinting like, then you're

644
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: not a bad bitch, then you don't deserve to be here.

645
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: But then she turns around directly says, these girls should

646
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: be feeling nervous that I'm joining the competition. So it

647
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: was very like hype or critical because it's like you,

648
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: she's telling you guys to not be scared and to

649
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: not be threatened, and then goes back and says, oh,

650
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: you should be threatened what we are? Just what was

651
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: your reaction about how she approached this entire situation of

652
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: coming in. You know, being a bad bitch doesn't mean

653
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: you have to be mean. Thank you. You know. I'm

654
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: really happy that that was shown through because that's I

655
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: don't know if it was caught up that I did

656
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: say something like that. I'm like, well, this isn't badage energy,

657
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: this is like mean girl energy. This isn't really like

658
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: a way in which you approach a situation, or at

659
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: least I wouldn't. Actually in those moments too, it was

660
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: really chaotic, you know, there was a lot going on,

661
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: and also she wasn't really giving us straightforward answers, similar

662
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: to like her almost contradicting herself. But I was trying

663
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: to think, like, Okay, maybe she's a little insecure, or

664
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't want to talk about how she's hed

665
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: her maybe she just want to hurt our feelings, Like

666
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: maybe that's why it was hard for her to I'm

667
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: trying to give her the benefit of the doubt all

668
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: in all, Like maybe she didn't want to like say

669
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: that directly for multiple reasons, but definitely something I did

670
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: when it started to process of how she was approaching it,

671
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: I was like, this is just not a very good

672
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: display of like that energy. This is like kind of mean,

673
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: like you're not really being very nice to us. You're

674
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: like doing it in a way by kind of insulting

675
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: us through trying to build your relationship with him. So

676
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: that was But at the end of the day, I mean,

677
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't here to like express myself or explain myself

678
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: like she basically was trying to tell us too. I think, like,

679
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: if you have a problem with it, like tell me.

680
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: But we were all just like it's not really worth

681
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: the energy because I'm not really sure how much of

682
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: what I'm going to say is going to be processed

683
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: the way we're trying to say, because she just misinterpreting

684
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: what we were saying, and I'm like, it's just not

685
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: worth it. Yeah, you know, well at the end of

686
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: the day too, like she can have her opinions as

687
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: a judge of like how you all handled the group

688
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: date and like what the goal was. But like, ultimately

689
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: this is Zach's gotta hate saying journey, like I need

690
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: a new word for journey. But like he's yeah, and

691
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: so he's there to find somebody at the end of this,

692
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: and like if he liked the date and what you

693
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: women were bringing to the table, like truly, that's all

694
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: that matters. And it's kind of like his final say, um,

695
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: I do want to know though, So obviously we see

696
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Zach let Tajuan know that, like it just wouldn't be

697
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: fair to you women he sends her home. How would

698
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: you have felt, though, on the flip side, if he

699
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: had asked her to stay. Do they that would have switched,

700
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: like your view of him and like what he wanted

701
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: out of this, I don't think it would Like it

702
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't adjust my view of who he is as a partner.

703
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I think that point in the process would still early.

704
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: So if you do feel something with him or with

705
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: her and she feels it vice versa, I like, go

706
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: for it. It's not my place to tell you who

707
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: to not pursue at that point too. I mean, yeah,

708
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: it's not really unfair. We gave up our lives a

709
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: lot right now and she hasn't maybe a little bit

710
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: less sleep, But at the end of the day, this

711
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: is a show about finding our husband our wife, and

712
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: if you feel like you could have something with that,

713
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: then I would say go for it. Also, I want

714
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: my partner to choose me over everything, So if he

715
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: was feeling like he she would say temptation, and I

716
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: still want him to choose me over that temptation too,

717
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: So I would want her to be there if he

718
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: was feeling in that moment. Yeah, but it was like

719
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: still early enough for I don't know if it was

720
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: like a necessarily sting so much you know of him,

721
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: bring on the girl beautiful. That's what I was thinking too, Like,

722
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: thank goodness, it was the very first group day and

723
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: week one. I'm like, I don't know if if either

724
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: of you watched Caitlin Bristow's season a couple of years ago,

725
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: but like Nick Fielle came in, I think it was

726
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: like week four, like they had are like the team,

727
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: not the team, but like had already been traveling, like

728
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: they were already in her they were already in a

729
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: different city. Yeah, before I came in. I came in

730
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: on week three, and then Heather came in on like

731
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: week six, yeah, or something like. It was the group

732
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: of you, like a group of you where obviously it

733
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: was like no from I'm saying saying, right, but Heather,

734
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Heather camean. Remember how Heather came in one? Yeah, she

735
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: came in like week six or seven. I can't it

736
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense at that point to do it because

737
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: but but she kept in, That's what I'm saying, Like,

738
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, Matt sent her other home, um, Zach sent

739
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: Taj home, But like Caitlin kept Nick tell the edge,

740
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: he was final too, Like yeah, so what's so difficult

741
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: in those situations too? Those because when you're only in

742
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: front of the lead's face for five ten minutes, sometimes

743
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: they can't see or pick out different like um alarming things,

744
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: cannot use flags. What's another word for that? Becca? Just

745
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can it's it's a

746
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: red flag or liked. But then right, so like him

747
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: keeping her, even if he saw a brief connection, it

748
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: would also really think like made it a lot more

749
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: difficult for some of the women there to work through

750
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: it because the way that she approached you guys, And

751
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: so then a lot of that you guys would have

752
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: been like, oh, so he goes for people who handle

753
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: or treat other people in this manner or just communicate

754
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: in this man I would but at what all the

755
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: bad feelings? But he also didn't see that part, so

756
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: he kind of did himself a favor for it would

757
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: have the way that he did. I think it would

758
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: have definitely been a reflection of who he wants in

759
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: a person at the end of the day. You know,

760
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what side he saw her, but just yeah,

761
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: the way she communicated wasn't really the most night like

762
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: the very pleasant, So it would have reflected on him

763
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: on what he wants to definitely. Yeah, Okay, we were

764
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: all good. Well you were all good because you ended

765
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: up getting that group date rose that night. Did you

766
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: expected did you think you he would handle that rose

767
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: that evening? No? I really had no idea. Honestly, when

768
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: he first said my name, like I didn't even hear it.

769
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: But no, I definitely did not think that I was

770
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: going to get that rose that night, just because I mean,

771
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: I've grown to learn and love everyone already, so and

772
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: I know that everyone had some substance behind a conversation,

773
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: so I think everybody was on the same playing field

774
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: and it was like fair game for everyone to have

775
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: gotten that rose that night. It was awesome and I

776
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: was very grateful and so happy and felt very validating

777
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: to receive. But I definitely was thinking like it could

778
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: have been anybody you know, and it was at the

779
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: way end of the night everyone I was like, oh me,

780
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: you deserve it, you earn it. And coming from somebody

781
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: who never once got a group date rose, I need

782
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: to know what it feels like, Michelle, did you ever

783
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: get one? I'm sure you did. Okay, can you guys

784
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: tell me what that feels like. I'm happy to share,

785
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: but I think especially in the beginning, and when you're

786
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: on a group with you know, nine or eight other girls,

787
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: you do feel really hurt and seen your most your

788
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: feelings for him and or for each other get validated,

789
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: and it makes you feel really like, Okay, I can

790
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: continue to be myself, like this is working, Like he's

791
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: feeling what I'm feeling right now, especially like he has

792
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: to compare it to the other moments that he's had

793
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: to the other girls. But I am someone that's standing

794
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: out to him, and that makes me feel like more

795
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: ready to keep progressing and seeing where this goes. I

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: would say, if I could put one word, it's definitely validating. Yeah,

797
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: to just make you feel comfortable about your relationship and

798
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: keep wanting to pursue it. Speaking of comfort in your relationships,

799
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: I know exactly, speaking of comfortaships. There's been a lot

800
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: not even a lot just my mom in this season

801
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: already that I think our fan favorites is just the

802
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: real rock conversation continues to roll after the credits, the

803
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: thing talking about key goals now to really talking about

804
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: people's comfort in their relationships with bodily fluids and functions.

805
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Functions fluids, fun you, bodily unctions, I think it's either

806
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: where do you stand on this? Okay, well I think

807
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of where I stand on

808
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: it currently. Okay, this is my thought, Like, okay, I'm

809
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: a nurse, right, I can see every single thing come

810
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: out of you at once. It might be fine, but

811
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: you will just never know that that's like even happening

812
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: inside of me. So I don't know what it is

813
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: or why, but for some reason, I like just the

814
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: like of him thinking that that happens, like it makes

815
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: me constant, like I literally wait, okay, so I need

816
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: to know. And this is what I talked to Michelle Ian.

817
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: It might have been before we start of recording, but like,

818
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: have you ever lived with a man before? I have?

819
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: And okay, so I like, how long did you live for?

820
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: How long did you live with it? All right, I've

821
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: lived it. I've lived with him. I think we were

822
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: together for like two and a half years we lived

823
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: not we didn't live together very long, um, like maybe

824
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: like six months or so. But oh, okay, okay, he

825
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: doesn't know this at a story time, I'm adding myself.

826
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: But you know what, whatever, it's twenty twenty three, let's

827
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: do it. Um. There are ways around it okay. So

828
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: we lived on the first floor apartment. Somebody did not

829
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: leave every time you had to go to the bathroom.

830
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: If he was home and I had to go to

831
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Usually, I'm telling you, I get consticated around

832
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: the men, so it doesn't typically have to be a thing,

833
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: but sometimes whatever. Um, we lived on the first floor

834
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: was a lecture apartment, and if I really had to go,

835
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: I would go to the lobby restroom and go to

836
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: the bathroom there and I would be like, yeah. He

837
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: texted me to be like where are you, Like what happened?

838
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, the package thing is like just

839
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: take a long time. And my mom called me. I'm like,

840
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm on a long conversation, but really I was just

841
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom. Oh my god, this sounds exhaust

842
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: It was easy when you're on the first floor and

843
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: it was a nice place. So I kind of like

844
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: had my own moment, you know. It was great, like

845
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: I could be in my own space. But he still

846
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: doesn't said that, so whatever, But there are ways for

847
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: all the girls out there. They're still uncomfortable. I mean,

848
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: you gived time, given time we you want, okay, because

849
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm gonna like I feel I get that,

850
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: like I can to that you want to be comfortable.

851
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: You're just exactly Oh my god, I feel like I'm

852
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: on a whole different page than you. But I'm like

853
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: so open you with my girlfriends, Like I was just

854
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: on a weekend vacation with four of us in the

855
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: same hotel room and we were so open. We'd like

856
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: peet with the door open. We'd be like, Okay, somebody

857
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: played music, We're going in the bathroom. Like it's just Also,

858
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I will say this because I'm fine. I'll do it

859
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: all day. We can be in the same room doing

860
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: all the things at once, especially on the show you

861
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: actually have to do at some parts. Yeah, if the

862
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: girls are fine, I don't care about the girls. It's

863
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: just something I just can't acknowledge that in front of it.

864
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: And it's funny. There's always two perspectives and they're always

865
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: to the most extreme. But it's just something I think

866
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like die on that hill with I can't.

867
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I think I've related. Most was it um Genevie, who

868
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: was like I'll do it and I was like, yes,

869
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: my girl. I was like, yeah, I see you. But

870
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: I will say like for like and I've talked actually

871
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: to Quitlin Bristow about this is like having a code

872
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: word or phrase just so you know where it's like

873
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: I have to go walk the dog right now, and

874
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: the other person gets in, They're like, Okay, go do

875
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: your things, see you later, and like that kind of

876
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: helps alleviate the weirdness, but it doesn't hand it. Yeah,

877
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: it takes a while to ease it. I will say that, Um, okay,

878
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Catherine wee, I love I love these real conversations, like

879
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: real life stuff that like other people listening are like

880
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with my friends or you know,

881
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: it's I think this isn't the real shit. So, um,

882
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: we loved having you. I want to ask before we

883
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: get into our fun game and everything else. The last question,

884
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: without giving too much away, can you tease anything fun

885
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: that's about to come up on this season? Um? Well,

886
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: I do rebrand and I do become Cat next week

887
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: because I lookt with the Sefid girl, but she did

888
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: go home and I typically go by the name Kat

889
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: sorry with Katherine to kind of help with the confusion.

890
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: But so from now on that'll be me. Um. Also,

891
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some competition that resulted in a few

892
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: injuries next Okay, wait, physical or physical or emotional injuries?

893
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how you look at it,

894
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, let's both. But um, so yeah, there's

895
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: a lot of I think next week is going to

896
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: be really exciting. It was quite fun. Well, we're we're

897
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: really excited to stay tuned and figure out what those

898
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: things are. Well, Katherine, we have enjoyed chatting with you

899
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: so much. Today we're going to play a quick round

900
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions to kind of finish everything off

901
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: and to let our listeners learn a little bit more

902
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: about you. So how this is going to work is

903
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot you a question and you are

904
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: going to answer as quick as possible. It can be

905
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: short and sweet. You don't have to get okay, any explanation,

906
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: um and then back and now I'll just go back

907
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: and forth and the all right from there? Are you ready?

908
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: First question? Are you an early riser or a night owl?

909
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: Definitely a night owl? Okay, working nights now, best dabut

910
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: advice you've ever received? Um, I think to love yourself first. Definitely.

911
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: You can't really like be able to be fully present

912
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: relationship unless you love yourself first and understand that self love.

913
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: And that's something I've used for sure preach. What is

914
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: your go to pizza order? Okay, don't tojudge me, but

915
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: it really is just like a good old classic cheese.

916
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: But everybody yells at me for that, but gee is great. Wrong, Like,

917
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: you can never go wrong, and sometimes you're at random

918
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: pizza places, so don't let anyone shave you for your

919
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: pizza order. What is one word that your best friends

920
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: would use to describe you? Um, probably resilient. That's just

921
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: something I think the verbiage they've used to describe me

922
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,479
Speaker 1: just um in all different friendships I've made. That's something

923
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: they've said. I think I have a lot of layers

924
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: that come with it. So that's that's incredibly deep. And

925
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: then that was this next question of what is your

926
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: favorite curse word? I don't really want to curse right

927
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: now because I'm trying to be better at it, but

928
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: I do love the F word, you know, make fudgeude,

929
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: And I actually like to put twists on it too,

930
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: like I always like say what the frick, or like, um,

931
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: what the frack? I say that a lot, but it's

932
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: always just somehow like goes well your sentences. Okay, do

933
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: you have any hidden talents, um, other than like being

934
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: able to stay up all night? Um, I think something

935
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: I said in my Thing when I was casting was

936
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: I can truly bringing all the groceries on one trip, like,

937
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: and I think that's a talent because you can't really

938
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't know why, but I will

939
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: never go back. I will never be a second trip girl.

940
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: It's groceries shop. It is no easy feat. It's not

941
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: like my my arms somehow extend like beyond belief. And

942
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: that's a talent. Honestly. You get making the grocery bags,

943
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: so you get that cut for because there is so

944
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: heavy love sectulations off. What is the most played song

945
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: or artists in your library? Oh? Always, I can't. Yeah,

946
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: I every single Actually her Tordaise I think come out

947
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: next week, so I'm so excited. Yeah that'll be that

948
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: would be good. Okat. What is your favorite cocktail? Um? Actually,

949
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: my newest one is a tequila with soda and Alignman

950
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: and orange. But the orange is is a must. You

951
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: have to have an orange and it's really good. Shot

952
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: of tequila. Shots of tequila, with an orange is so

953
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: much better than with a lounge changer, it is. And

954
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: with tequila with whiskey, I'll do Yeah, that's what. No,

955
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: you can do tequila too. I try that interesting shuts

956
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: it real nice. If you could be any animal, what

957
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: would you be, Um, I'd be Okay. I love cats,

958
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: so I know the fitting covery fitting. It is the kay,

959
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: But I do. I love cats. I have one of

960
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: my own, so that's my definitely Annie and might be

961
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: they just like they get to sleep and just like

962
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: get left on all the time, and they're smart and

963
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: they could be assholes for no reason. We just like

964
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: are okay with it so and get away with it right? Yeah? Yeah?

965
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: What is the current screensaver on your phone? Uh? It's

966
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: actually my cat Sammy. Do you want to see it?

967
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: She's so yeah, gets a little to hold it up.

968
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: Look at her. She's pretty. She's a beautiful cat. Angel.

969
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: I know. She's like just always walking on her like tiptoes,

970
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: her high heels, I call them. She's like, oh, queen,

971
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: she's what is um? Actually? No, if you could visit

972
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: one place in the world where it would it be? Um?

973
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I really want to see Mount Fuji in Japan I

974
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: that is. I think it's one of the most beautiful

975
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, can be one of the most

976
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: beautiful things to view. And I've always want to go

977
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: to Asia too, so that's something It's not my Bucke

978
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: list for sure. I love that. Okay, last one for

979
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: the game. If you had to just, oh my god,

980
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I cannot talk. If you had to describe this season

981
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor in one word or one phrase, what

982
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: would that be. I would say unique. There's a lot

983
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: of I know, everyone says like different, whatever I would say,

984
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: it's unique. I mean, for what I've heard on previous seasons,

985
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things here that are different

986
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: than others, even in just the relationships amongst the women,

987
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Like we're all very like nice to each other. There's

988
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: no real like mean girl or Cattius that I can say.

989
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: And then there's some things that truly truly have happened

990
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: that have really never happened. So it's gonna be really

991
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: fun to watch that play out, right, Yeah, we're excited it.

992
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: As Michelle said earlier, to tune in and just see

993
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: how everything unfolds, see where you had you know, if

994
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: it's any indication of getting that first group date. Rose,

995
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: I have high hopes for you. I feel like you're

996
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: gonna make it pretty far hopefully. So one a couple

997
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: last things before we let you go. Every week we

998
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: share a resource and then a rose and thorn. So

999
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: basically the resource is just we think it's so important

1000
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: to keep our listeners informed and share important topics and

1001
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: resources that we love, and we always share these on

1002
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: our Instagram so people can go back and easily find it.

1003
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: But I'll just kick it off. I'll have Michelle go

1004
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: and then we will let you rep that part up

1005
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: if that's cool with you. But the one I'm going

1006
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: to share this week, I actually somebody had DMed me

1007
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: this podcast recommendation and I gave the one that they

1008
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: gave a specific episode. But I think every it's geared

1009
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: towards parents, I would say, but honestly, like the one

1010
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 1: that I listened to is geared towards anyone, especially people

1011
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: like me who are white. It's called three and thirty

1012
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: and this episode is called how to Talk to Kids

1013
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: about Skin Tone and Race. And this episode the host

1014
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: brings on a doctor. Her name is doctor Lacresha Barry,

1015
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: and it focuses on giving children like words and tools

1016
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: that they can actually use to have conversations and feel

1017
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: confident about skin tone and race, so it's not like

1018
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: out of the norm for them, and even for people

1019
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: who are a little bit older, you know, like I'm

1020
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: in my early thirties who haven't always had these conversations

1021
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: to just have you feel more comfortable and give you

1022
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: a starting point of like where you can start these

1023
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: conversations with people in your lives. It gives three takeaways

1024
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. I really urge anyone to listen to it.

1025
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: It's a quick list and it's only thirty minutes, but

1026
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: truly so beneficial to anyone at any age. So the

1027
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: first takeaway is to reject the color blind approach, which

1028
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: is basically like, oh I don't see color. The doctor

1029
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: here basically said, like that's not a solution. It's it's

1030
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: basically like, you know, don't cut out like what you

1031
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about. The second takeaway is to normalize

1032
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: having these conversations and make them more consistent so they

1033
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: can feel more natural and a lot of times, you know,

1034
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: like children, they're so curious and at such a young age,

1035
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: like they ask a lot of questions and they just

1036
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: like notice things and say things differently than how adults would,

1037
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: so to not shame them if they want to have

1038
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: conversations or like say something, and just to be able

1039
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: to like construct those conversations to make them feel like

1040
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: they're learning something and can take that in the future.

1041
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: And then the third tool is to actually invest in

1042
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: racism education in order to gain a better understanding, so

1043
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: it can't just be like a one and done thing

1044
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: of like, oh I just listened to this one podcast

1045
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: or like I read this one book and that's it.

1046
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Like to continue to educate hate yourselves and like really

1047
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: dive deep into the history of racism and why it's

1048
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: so still so prevalent in like today's society, um, and

1049
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: how education can be a tool to de weaponize the

1050
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: topic of race and skin tone. It's it's so great. UM.

1051
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: I will definitely two or three, Like I think core

1052
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: issues amongst everything that's been going on, especially when it

1053
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: comes to having trying to navigate raising children, you know,

1054
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: in this era, and those are a lot of points

1055
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: that I think you need to be addressed and talked about.

1056
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: And um, I love that that's a great tool for

1057
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: everybody too. Yeah, I really enjoyed this episode, so again

1058
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: I will link that on on Happy Hours Instagram on

1059
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: my Instagram. UM, such a good listen to anyone at

1060
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: any age. So that is my resource, m Michelle. I

1061
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: love it so much. It's such a great resource that

1062
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: I actually have the exact same one. Yeah. This person, Yeah,

1063
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: this person messaged me as well, and I was able

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00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: to actually DM back and forth with her a little

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00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: bit and told her I'd give it a listen and

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00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: be talking about it on the podcast. And they have

1067
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: so many good episodes. They really do have so many

1068
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: good episodes. But you know, I'm not going to go

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00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: and share the story of kind of what I talked

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00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: about with or her personal personal story that she was

1071
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of talking to me about. But it really really

1072
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: reminded and pointed to the fact that there are people

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00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: out here who are willing and wanting to break the

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00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: cycle and acknowledging that they may have grown up in

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00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: an environment that isn't as progressive and that it's a

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00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: lot of work, but making sure that they're passing on

1077
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: tools to have these conversations. The biggest thing, similar Tobecca,

1078
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: what you spoke about is that we all not we all,

1079
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: but a lot of us grew up with this whole

1080
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: concept of to Nazi color, and in that message, it

1081
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: was to really speak on everyone treating everybody regardless, and

1082
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: that was the message. But as we kind of move forward,

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: it is actually really important to see color and to

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: see the privilege that comes or does not come with

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: those things. And I loved how it was able to

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: touch on that because it seems like such an abrasive thing, like, no,

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00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: you should see color like you. But when you're seeing color,

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00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: it's because you're truly taking a step back to put

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: yourself and learn about that person's life or different communities

1090
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: of people and what pressures or difficulties that they may have.

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00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: So one hundred percent agree to check that one out,

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: I believe. I don't know if you mentioned a Specca,

1093
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: but Apple podcast is where you can find that one.

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: That's where I listened to. I think that's great too,

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00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: because you touched on the point of like, once you acknowledge,

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: once you start acknowledging things, it's when you can start

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00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: having some understanding. And I think a lot of people,

1098
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: but some people I've seen, they don't even want to

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: acknowledge that we did grow up in a different era,

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00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: we did have different views and it does take time

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00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: and energy. They just rather ignore it and not want

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00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: to understand or put in the work to make sense

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: of everything that you know, people are trying to express

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00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: to them. But by acknowledging color, you're acknowledging issues and

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00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: then you can start having some understanding behind that to

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: be able to break the norms that we've already Yeah. Yeah,

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: in order to acknowledge a difference, do you have to

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: acknowledge that there is difference? Right? It's a real So

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,959
Speaker 1: Kat with that, if you have a resource you would

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00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: like to share with our listeners, we would love that

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: as well. So I do. Minus also a podcast It

1112
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: is called We Can Do Hard Things and the host

1113
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: is gun and Doyle. She made this podcast coming off

1114
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: of like the COVID era, and she read a book

1115
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: and everything, and basically it centered around anybody who's really

1116
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: struggling with any kind of complex emotions or situation. It

1117
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: touches on body image, you know, identity, LGBTQ community, you know,

1118
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: all the intersections and most people of color everything, and

1119
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: they she brings on a lot of really amazing individuals

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00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: like authors, and that's also something that I've used to

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00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: continue to understand myself in my situations and make sense

1122
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: of it. And it's just a really good resource to

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: be able to, i don't know, like make sense of

1124
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: things that are hard that we don't really want to

1125
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: make sense of, and like use that it's a tool

1126
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: so that we can be able to better ourselves. And

1127
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: it really hones on, I think, pretty much all of

1128
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: the hard things that we don't really necessarily want to acknowledge.

1129
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: And sometimes for me personally, it was developing like self

1130
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: love for like the parts of me that I don't

1131
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: really like. And most recent one I listened to was

1132
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: talking about like radical self love and how to get back.

1133
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people now are starting with a body

1134
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: dysmarkia and identity and stuff like that. But it's overall

1135
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: a great podcast and it really can be something to

1136
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: use to make to make yourself feel better and have

1137
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: that like self love again and you know all the

1138
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: positive things that come with it. But it's a tool

1139
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: that I use that would love for everyone else to

1140
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: be more aware of. And they're also on Apple and Spotifying.

1141
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: Pretty sure it's called we Can Do Hard Things. Yeah,

1142
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: it really is like talking about hard things like no

1143
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: one wants to talk about. And I think not only

1144
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: is the conversation being had, but being able to be

1145
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: to learn about the people that they bring on. They

1146
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: also can teach you things too, just from their own work.

1147
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: A lot of them are like good authors, and I've

1148
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: read a lot of books through it to kind of

1149
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: just like do that work. Because you have to do

1150
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: work for yourself and there's no one else that's going

1151
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: to hold your hand. You have to put in a

1152
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: lot of energy towards it because it is hard to

1153
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: make that conscious effort. But normalizing things that we don't

1154
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: really want to acknowledge, I think is great and that's

1155
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: something I think is the cool tool to have. Well,

1156
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate that, cat. And then before we

1157
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: have you go, we would love if you could share

1158
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: your rose and your thorn. So basically, the rose is

1159
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: like highlights so far on your time on The Bachelor,

1160
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: whether that was back during filming or now these first

1161
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: couple of weeks watching it back. And then vice versa

1162
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: said the thorn, which is like a messy moment, something awkward,

1163
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: something that you're like, oh, I wish that maybe didn't happen.

1164
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: So basically, highlight and low light so far. Okay, so

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01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: up to this point, I would say a rose would

1166
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: be us moving into the mansion, like when we first

1167
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: run in, and it really is as exciting as it seems.

1168
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm from Florida, so seeing the mountains like be the

1169
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: horizon felt like outer space. It was crazy, but you

1170
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: just like feel this feeling of excitement and enlightment that

1171
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: you really can't express or like. It's just an overall

1172
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: overwhelming just gratitude too to be in the Bachelor mansion.

1173
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: And I would say that was like one of my

1174
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: most exciting things. That's farm and then a thorn. Probably

1175
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: my toes going up during the first real ceremonies fully

1176
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: went nam. I mean I was just not expecting. Now

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01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm obviously putting back on, but you're on that costool

1178
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: and my toes lost full feeling, full feeling, and I'm like,

1179
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: oh God, like, why did I not think this through better?

1180
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: I should afford better shoes. Yes, and it's cold at night,

1181
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: it gets very cold there, so oh, I couldn't even

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01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: feel anything aside. I mean I was my toes were

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01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: falling off their hinges. Well, if that's your thorn, I

1184
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: feel like that's like a pretty good one to have, Like, yeah,

1185
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: hopefully you get gained feeling that's real quick. But there's

1186
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: some more. Yeah, there's some more things that happened later

1187
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: on that might be we'll see. Yeah. Yeah, well, Catherine,

1188
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: it has been so much fun having you here and

1189
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: getting to know you a bit more. We can't wait

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: to see where your story goes on this season. So

1191
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: thank you, no, thank you, guys. It was so great

1192
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: talking to you. I hope we can still continue to

1193
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: have girl time after this because you are great and

1194
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: I respect everything that you guys have broughten to my

1195
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: life through this too, So thanks so much. Thank you,

1196
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: and we're always here if you need advice or to vent,

1197
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: to ask questions, whatever. We're always serious, so please please

1198
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: reach out. Amazing. Okay, well that was a good one.

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01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: I liked Kat. I really do like getting to know

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: these girls so much more, just on a deeper level.

1201
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: It's it's so much fun. Yeah, I think she'll know

1202
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: far I have a feeling. So thank Kat for joining us,

1203
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: and thank you to all of our listeners out there.

1204
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: We couldn't be doing each and every episode of Happy

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