WEBVTT - #269 Packers Unscripted: Coaching stories 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:20.760 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.360 I'm Mike Spofford and I am sitting next to Wes Hodkuits. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.240 We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.120 Field and West in the midst of the Super Bowl 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.920 and the Hall of Fame class and all of these 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.200 things we are attention was diverted for a while from 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.160 this new look Green Bay Packers coaching staff, where we've 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.320 had uh some coaches who are still here with new titles, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.519 other new coaches who have been brought in. So I 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.680 want to focus this show on some of these stories 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:53.680 here revolving around the Packers coaching staff, and I want 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.240 to start with the guy who's maybe been here the 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.639 longest out of everybody, and that's James camp In, long 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.400 time offensive line coach, a guy who doesn't like to 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.720 take credit for anything, but now head coach Mike McCarthy 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.160 has actually thrown some credit his way by giving him 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.240 a new title of run game coordinator, a job that 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:16.440 he's been doing. Now it's official next to his name, yes, exactly, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.280 and and and for him to get that recognition, I 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.800 know it is obviously a cool honor for him. Good 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.960 luck getting him to talk about any of this stuff. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.160 If you know anything about Campy, he does not do 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.800 well with getting credit for really anything. Um and I 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.800 kind of wrote about this on packers dot com this 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.959 past week. If you ever bring to him something that 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.960 either somebody said or you point something out, the two 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.120 things are gonna happen. He's either gonna create a self 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.720 deprecating joke or he's gonna find a way to just 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.959 wiggle into another topic. He he doesn't want to, you know, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.280 do anything of that accord. You can tell it means 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.640 a lot to him, but it's just it's just something 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.960 he doesn't want to talk about. And the interesting thing 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.640 about Campy, I think ESPN dot Com to the story 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.600 recently or they had one of their stats and info 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.560 things about how I think he's two seasons shy now 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.840 of hog Hanner right for the longest tenured assistant coach 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.639 on in Packer's history is going into his fifteen season. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.360 I think Hannah was sixteen, and then he also had 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.160 a stint I believe as a scout as well. Um, 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.440 but camp be what he's done here when you look 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.760 at this track record he was on staff, he assisted 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.240 Joe Philbin, who's now back as the offensive coordinator with 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.360 the at the time was the offensive line coach, and 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.920 then in two thousand seven got promoted to a line 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.680 coach himself. Nine Pro Bowlers during that time, the Packers 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.880 have had countless number of players even more than that, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.000 who have gotten second and third contracts in the NFL 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.320 and and at the end of the day, I think 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.440 that's the biggest thing. You want to have the accolades, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.440 you want to have the Super Bowls, but these young 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.760 men are trying to create a life for themselves. So 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.200 whether it's been Brian Blagg as a first round draft 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.080 pick or David Bacteria as a fourth rounder, even you know, 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.840 undrafted players. Evan Smith was discarded, he was out of 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.520 the league. Then he goes on and gets a long 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.800 term deal with the Tampa Bay Buck years after becoming 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.519 the Packers starter. So many guys. I mean, the proof 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.440 is in the pudding with with Camping that even if 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.440 he doesn't want to take the credit his track record, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.400 it's it's without match. Yeah. A couple of seasons in 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.800 in Camping's tenure really stand out to me, one being 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.200 just this past season because of all of the injuries 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.120 and just the shuffling and guys having to play different spots. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.359 You know, Lane Taylor playing some left tackle, Justin McCrae, 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.480 who basically plays center, you know, all of training camp, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.239 and you know, then ends up playing both guard and 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.519 and some right tackle and even some left tackle. I 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.880 think he was thrown in at one point. You know, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.040 you're gonna have some hiccups along the way, But by 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.960 and large, with all the changes that were going on, 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.640 the Packers offensive line was not the issue in I 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.760 think a lot of credit goes to James Camping for that. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.240 The other one that stands out to me, I go 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.920 back to two thousand nine. It was Aaron Rodgers second 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.000 years starting quarterback. And I don't have all the numbers 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.880 off the top of my head, but I remember in 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.320 the first half of that season, Aaron Rodgers was getting 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.400 sacked a ton. He was going down way too much, 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.920 he was getting hit way too much. James Campon was 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.000 under a lot of fire. A lot of fans were like, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.760 you know, hey, these look like some good offensive lineman here, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.720 what's wrong with our offensive line? Coach? We got to 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.400 move on from this guy. You know, the typical fan 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.960 knee jerk reaction type of thing. The second half of 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:21.360 the season, um the sack numbers dropped dramatically and really 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.680 and the Packers then went seven and one the second 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.600 half of the season to get into the playoffs. Aaron 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.920 Rodgers made his first playoff appearance that year. A lot 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.040 of credit to to James Camping for weathering that storm 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.359 and he was able to block out all the outside 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.120 noise and focus on his guys and he got that 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.680 offensive line playing the way he knew it was capable 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.840 of playing. That's That's a season in particular with him 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.240 as an assistant coach that I've always remembered. Yeah, and 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.680 specifically looking at this past year, the fact that the 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.920 Packers were able to navigate this season and it never 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.760 became a big narrative of offensive line play, I think 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.320 as an ultimate testament to him. You have to remember 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.760 Lane Taylor played two games at left tackle. Prior to 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.120 the those games, he had never played the position before 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.000 at any level of football. It was one spring game 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.479 he just like played with it at Oklahoma State. But 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.279 even going back to high school, he was a guard 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.120 he pushes out to left tackle and a former undrafted 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.760 free agent and was serviceable there. Justin McCrae, a guy 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.400 that had been out of the league, had been working 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.359 at a hotel. He was in the Arena Football League. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.040 He makes eight starts for this offensive line at various 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:29.520 positions this season. Lucas Patrick was a serviceable offensive lineman 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.960 as a former tryout player who had one offer in 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.280 the NFL and was playing with a club on his hand, 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.159 and then the guy like Corey Lindsley gets a contract extension. Um, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.320 it's remarkable what the Packers have done. So, whether or 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.040 not Camping wants to take credit forward, if you just 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.800 want to say, you know, the Packers have found some 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.599 incredible lineman where whatever the sources of all this success, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.880 it uh, it's pretty remarkable what they've done both in 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.760 season which guys stayed healthy like two thousand fourteen fifteen, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.800 and then times when guys didn't, they've they've been able 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.680 to stem the tide. Yeah. Absolutely, With that, we'll toss 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.440 to a breakback with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.000 Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.480 Wes Hodkowits in that one, and West continuing our discussion 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.039 about the coaching staff. Another coach who is back with 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.520 the Packers but with a new title is David Rye. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.800 And this is a guy who's had a number of 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.719 different titles now on the Packers coaching staff. He broke 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.000 in on Mike McCarthy staff as a coaching administrator, if 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:52.120 I believe, then moved on to assistant offensive line coach. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.080 He worked with with coach camping with the guys up front. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.400 Then last year he was offensive perimeter coach, and now 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.200 he is the wide receivers coach, taking over for Luke Getsy, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.679 who has moved on to a job with Mississippi State. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.400 So um, and I tell you you want a story 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.720 about a guy laying it all on the line to 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.720 get into the coaching business, take a look at David 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.960 Rye's story, because this is a guy who went from 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.920 uh financially a fairly lucrative job as a as a 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:29.800 medical equipment sales representative to essentially taking an unpaid job 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.440 on Rick new Heisel's u c l A staff, and 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.760 now here he is. He's been in the NFL for 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.760 a handful of years. And a guy who's still climbing 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.320 the ladder. Yeah, and you talk about a guy that 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.800 was probably tailor made for sales. I mean, Ry has 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.040 that kind of personality, very good, garious, extroverted type of individual. Um. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.320 And to be honest with you, if I was in 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.280 his spot and I actually liked what I was doing, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.880 which it sounds like for the most party was um, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.800 I probably would have just stand stood pat because it 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.680 was it was a great opportunity that he had out 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.880 in Beverly Hills. But he had a hankering to co 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.160 Hich again and he you know, played at Iowa, was 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.080 actually there when Joe Philbin was the offensive line coach 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.680 of the Hawkeyes, and he just wanted to be back 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.360 in football and basically went back into Big Rick new 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.040 Heisel for an unpaid internship which eventually turned into basically 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.440 like for lack of a better turn of grad assistant 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.400 ship for two seasons and worked his way up from there. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.720 And I thought one of the interesting things from the 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.000 conversation I had with him, how he is coaching style. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.800 You have to be yourself when you coach, if you're 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.120 going to be successful. You can't try to be somebody else. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.720 But he's tried to take something from every stop along 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.520 the way. He talked about new Heisel, his charisma and 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:41.559 you know, being with Cliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech, Kingsbury 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.200 has always seen this kind of this chill guy. But 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.040 he mentions how you know, intense he is um you know, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.200 and Kirk ference and and the fundamentals at Iowa and 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.400 now in Green Bay with Mike McCarthy. That offensive perimeter 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.000 coach was interesting this past year because it allowed him 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.439 basically to be on the hip of Mike McCarthy during 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.440 game days. It was his responsibility when McCarthy needed information. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.120 There's typical certain things he was looking for. It was 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.000 his job to basically facilitate that. And from McCarthy he's seen, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.760 you know, really having that bulletproof mindset to adversity and 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.720 in finding ways to always overcome. And now he feels 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.000 like that's prepared him for this latest opportunity now as 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.880 the Packers receivers coach. Yeah, and this is a guy 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.800 who just absolutely loves football. Because you mentioned his career 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.960 at Iowa. It's not like he was some star in 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.479 the pretend. This is a guy who was a backup quarterback, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.720 you know, really kind of paid his dues and uh 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.880 and even you know, without much of a college career, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:34.960 so to speak to to hang his hat on as 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.400 a player, just loved it so much that you know, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.560 wanted to get wanted to get back involved in coaching. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.640 And I love his personality. You mentioned that before. I'll 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.960 never forget. It was actually a season ago, you know, 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.400 the Packers coming off the four and six and the 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.400 run the table and everything. You know, you win the 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 last six games to get into the playoffs. I happened 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.520 to bump into coach ride down in in the team 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.320 dining room right after the win over Detroit as the 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.600 Packers are then, you know, getting ready the wild card 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.080 game against the Giants, and just typically I'm like, you know, hey, coach, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.160 how's it going? And he just looks at me, says, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.280 there's only twelve teams still playing and we're one of them. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.480 It's going great. And but that's that's David Rye, right. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.000 I mean it's like you can't you almost can't take 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.400 the smile off the guy's face. I mean, he's he's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.640 got he's got a very infectious personality and always a 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.880 fun guy to talk to. And you know, I'll be 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.920 interested to see now in this new role wide receivers 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.200 coach he's got. He's trying replacing a popular coach, and 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.959 Gets he was very well liked by his guys. Some 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.640 tough shoes to step into, but if anybody can do it, 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.439 it's right. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting how though 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.319 there are two stories have kind of been tied together 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 because you go back to that coach and coaching administrator 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.720 job that he got back in two thousand and fourteen. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.920 I believe it was him and Gets He were actually 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.240 both interviewing at the same time for the offensive quality 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.920 control post. That's right, And as Mark Harthy said directly 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.480 after it, when he was after the announcement of the 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.800 coaching staff had been made, you know, he said, both 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.360 of these guys knocked it out of the park. It 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.280 was just that Gets He kind of put it a 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:05.680 little bit farther, and so they hired him for the 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.560 offensive quality control position. But they basically created that coaching 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.840 administrator role for Ride to come on staff, and then 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.960 they've kind of followed each other up the internal ranks 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.600 up until now gets he going on to Mississippi State 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.160 as an offensive coordinator and receivers coach. So now Ry 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.520 moves into that room and as the offensive perimeter coach. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.600 He's been around the quarterbacks, He's been around the receiver's 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.839 quite a bit. He's excited about that. You know. He 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.440 likes the steps that Davante Adams has has made he's taken, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.880 sees a lot of potential in that room and thinks that, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.400 you know, as he said, and going back to its 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.080 kind of an enthusiasm about everything. He's like, what an 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.200 opportunity to coach these guys that are this talented and 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.960 try to help them. He's like, that's uh, that's something 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.160 that's priceless for him. Yeah, no doubt with that. We'll 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.800 toss to a breakback with more on Packers Unscripted right 0:11:48.840 --> 0:12:10.040 after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.440 Wes hodkowit's over there, and West moving on to talk 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.640 about one of the new coaches on the Packers staff, 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:23.040 Inside linebackers coach and defensive run game coordinator, Patrick Graham. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:28.080 We talked about David Rise. Interesting origin story with with 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.600 the medical sales job. This is another guy with with 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.319 quite a background. He actually starts as a chemical engineering 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.280 major at Yale playing on the football team. Although he 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.959 emphasizes he didn't really play pretty much rolled the bench 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.480 at Yale. But then he said he ran into having 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.320 differential equations and thermal dynamics in the same semester, and 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.920 he said sort something about you have to have one 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.680 before the other. So he was completely lost. I I 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.320 stopped at calculus two and became a writer. I didn't 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.960 even calculus. I didn't go beyond the battle math. But anyway, 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:05.160 so he switches from chemical engineering to sociology and then 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:11.480 ultimately that um that leads to U. After college, he 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.400 is essentially like a pr you know, sort of newsletter 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.040 writer type of guy in a in a job. But 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.400 his his old position coach at Yale asked him, you know, hey, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.000 do you wanna do you want to get an m 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.600 b A And he was kind of like, yeah, maybe 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.000 I'll get an MBA. Do you want to get your 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.000 MBA paid for? And he says, well yeah, and he says, well, 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.319 and become an assistant coach, and you can get a 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.600 graduate assistant job and you know, and go to graduate school. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.520 So he latches on at Wagner College, a tiny school 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.280 in the Northeast, as a graduate assistant, and now here 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.400 we are, almost two decades later, he's been in the 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.080 NFL for a long time. He still doesn't have his 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.480 m b A. Because one month he said coaching at 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.280 Wagner College, he decided a coch coaching is what he 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:55.920 wanted to do for the rest of his life. It's 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.720 really quite a story. He's a really interesting guy to 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.240 talk to and it will be fun to Yeah, very 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.560 well spoken individual. You really get a feel for just 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.319 probably you know how smart he is. I mean you 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.160 can look at the resume obviously get that you can't 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 just walk into Yale and you know just be like, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.679 I want to go to college here and try to 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.120 major and engineering. Yeah, but I just you want to 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.640 talk about an MBA program, not to make a crappy transition, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.560 but I mean, you look at what his coaching roots 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.240 and you know, getting the chance to be a Bill 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.120 Belichick for as many years as he was in the 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.720 New England Patriots, in these past couple of seasons with 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.240 the New York Giants and in the defensive line success 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.200 they've had their uh, it's been it's been interesting to 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.080 follow his trajectory and now it really gets a chance 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.760 to go back and while he is going to be 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.720 the defensive run game coordinator is also going to be 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:46.520 coaching the inside linebackers position, so the Packers going back 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.600 to a true inside linebackers coach. Obviously Scott McCurley moving 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.040 into his new position as a defensive assistant. And I 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.680 just think that experience that Graham's gonna bring in those 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.040 life lessons he has over the course of his career 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.160 being able to bring that to a relative of the 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.680 young room. You know, Blake Martinez coming off the season 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.280 that he had leading the league or being up there 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.800 in tackles for the NFL. Trying to tie all that together, 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.760 and also looking with some of the stuff that Joe 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.480 WIT's going to be doing as a defensive pass game 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.880 coordinator with the inside linebackers, I think bringing those two 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.680 avenues together, it's really going to help that unit. Yeah, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.280 His his motivation as a professional is is really interesting 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.680 to explore because he didn't shy away from the fact 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.520 that he feels as a college football player at Yale, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.160 he didn't give it everything he should have. He short 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.240 changed himself in in the effort category in terms of 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.920 trying to become really the best player he could have been, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.800 he says, asked my teammates at Yale you know, I 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.480 didn't put in the work that that I should have. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.320 And that's really been his motivation to make the most 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.320 of his coaching career. When he found that his passion 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.360 is coaching, he's gone all in. And uh and you 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.200 get to work for the New England Patriots, the New 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.680 York Giants, and now the Green Bay Packers. That says 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.400 something about about what you bring to the table. And uh. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.680 And this guy, he's he's uh, he's still as I say, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.760 he's going on almost two decades now in in the 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:15.960 coaching profession and uh, and he's still extremely motivated to 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.840 to to make the most of every opportunity that comes 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.120 his way. Yeah, he really did. And it was interesting 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.680 that you obviously were part of the interview and wrote 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.200 the story, but just me getting a chance to go 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.000 back and listen to it. Obviously very articulate guy. Um, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.160 but you can get a feel through those words, like 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.600 a lot of coaches, but I mean you can really 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.480 get a feel for what this game means to him 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.000 and how excited it is about this opportunity. And it's 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.200 something else we pointed out in these last couple episodes two. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.080 The ties that bind everybody again coming over from New 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.480 York with Frank Signetti that the quarterbacks coach for free 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.080 Lie Manning. Um, there's a familiarity there with some of 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.920 the guys already, so I will be interested to see 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.760 first time it's probably Don Caper's I would think in 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.720 two thousand and eight that they brought in a coach 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.320 that was with Bill Belichick. Um, So I think that'll 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:57.960 be interesting too to see what kind of flavor he 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.640 brings to that position and in the deep yeah, no 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.280 doubt I bought it. With that, we'll toss to a 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:23.760 breakback with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.280 back to Packers Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside West Hodkowitz. And 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.240 what's another new coach to discuss here is, uh, the 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.960 Packers new quarterbacks coach, Frank Signetti. And again you start 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.239 looking into these guys backgrounds and it does get kind 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.320 of interesting. Frank Signetti goes all the way back to 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.720 on the University of Pittsburgh staff with Mike McCarthy. Signetti 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:51.720 was that was a graduate assistant. McCarthy was the volunteer assistant. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.240 I think that's when he was doing the whole toll 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:54.920 booth thing, you know, in the middle of the night 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.119 to UH to make some money because he was coaching 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.240 at pitt for free. Um. But these guys go back 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.919 a long way and UH. And it was interesting talking 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.920 with Signetti when he was introduced to the media. He said, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.639 actually he moved on from pitt to UH to i 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.080 U P Indiana University of Pennsylvania. And when Mike McCarthy 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.679 then was was with the Kansas City Chiefs cutting his 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.440 teeth in the NFL, and he said McCarthy would come 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.520 back home, come back home to Pittsburgh at times in 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.880 the off season, and Signetti was actually in the McCarthy's 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:32.000 parents living room watching practice tapes with McCarthy of Joe 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.760 Montana and doing like the quarterback drills and stuff like 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.679 that in Kansas City. So the history between these two 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.800 guys goes back a long way. And now they did 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.520 cross paths with the New Orleans Saints. Mike McCarthy was 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.200 the offensive coordinator there and Signetti was on his staff. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.840 And now here they are again several years later, um, 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.960 really almost two decades later, back on the same staff again. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.560 And this is this will be Frank Signetti's sixth NFL 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.240 team that he's worked for. But again, another guy who's 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.040 pretty excited. And how can you not be excited to 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.320 work with a guy like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and signetic 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.159 story is so interesting too because there are all the 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.600 ties that are there with Mike McCarthy, but then also 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:12.560 uh with Jim Hastling new offense pass game coordinator. Make 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.720 sure you get that right during their time at e 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:21.080 U Indiana Area, Pennsylvania. You I, you P. That's that's 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:22.760 what he calls it. He calls it. I make sure 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.880 I get that right. But anyway, he ends up being 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.760 in the Chiefs. After McCarthy leaves, they get together with 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.520 the Saints. McCarthy ends up going to the forty Niners 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.840 a couple of years later, after McCarthy's already left to 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.080 come to the Packers, Signetic ends up with the forty 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.960 Niners and then now obviously together here in Green Bay. Uh. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.440 An interesting path that he's taken. And then also you 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.000 look at some of these guys he's worked with, I 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.159 mean the past two years. It's a new system obviously 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.000 he's coming into. But you know, Ben McAdoo basically ran 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.240 a variant of what Mike McCarthy runs during his time 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.280 in New York and and you know, working with Eli 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.840 Manning there as you said, and you can tell the 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.560 enthusiasm and his voice about working with Aaron Rodgers and 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.879 getting the chance to help him and felt, you know, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.880 the quarterbacks behind him. It's a great opportunity and it's 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.520 a it's a chance to you know, help one of 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.000 the best in the game. Um, you know, really make 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.239 sure he crosses his t's and dots his eyes. And 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.119 I think you look at every single coach that's come 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:14.920 through Green Bay and has a chance to work with 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.399 Aaron Rodgers and the relationship they've formed. Uh, it's a 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.720 pretty special bond that that that room has. Yeah, and 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.920 his uh, his coaching career after the the year at 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.359 Pitt with Mike McCarthy, we mentioned him going to I U. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.119 P he was actually on his father's coaching staff. That 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.639 was the that was the school that that he played 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.280