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Speaker 1: all over time. You've got a beautiful day in here

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Speaker 1: an Orchard Park, beautiful December day. Take a look at it.

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Speaker 1: But today is a beautiful winter day in Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: New York. This is the weather segment of the show.

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Speaker 1: We do it for our friends at Channel two. Patrick,

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Speaker 1: the weatherman at Channel two, loves when we talk about weather,

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Speaker 1: and this is the weather segment of the show. It's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day. Did you look. It's like that. It's

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Speaker 1: like that insurance commercial where the people buy a snow globe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got I got a life. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: had some really cool observations about how Bills fans should

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Speaker 1: approach this game against New England on Saturday afternoon. Listen

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Speaker 1: to this Kyle Brandt this morning on Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. Are you sick of it? I am?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to do something about the Patriots? I

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Speaker 1: hope you do, because your reputation amongst fans across this country.

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Speaker 1: You're their old man's team, You're their grandpa's team. You

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Speaker 1: are the change the channel to someone talking about the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys team. They don't know that you are one

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Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the league. They see that

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Speaker 1: your stadium is nicknamed after your old owner. Your team

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Speaker 1: is named after some old cowboy. Your town is named

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Speaker 1: for an old American relic. Your whole legacy is really cool.

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Speaker 1: For a while in the early nineties and now obsolete.

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Speaker 1: You are the disc man of teams. And it's perfect

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Speaker 1: in a way that your coach's secret weapon was beating

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Speaker 1: the Steelers by wielding a song by sticks forty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Sticks what man rupped together to make fire? The last

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Speaker 1: time you beat New England in a game that matters?

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Speaker 1: And did you hear Bill Belichick this week? Did you

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Speaker 1: hear this man? Josh Allen was good last time we met.

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Speaker 1: He's good now. He wasn't good last time. He was

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Speaker 1: a mess. That's Belichick patronizing you, which I suppose is

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Speaker 1: a warm reprieve from him terrorizing you. A stick of it.

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Speaker 1: How many times, Buffalo have you left town you met

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Speaker 1: someone and they asked, where are you from? Oh? Yeah, Buffalo?

448
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Speaker 1: You must be a huge Bills fan sucks about the Patriots?

449
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Speaker 1: How many times every time for the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you're my age, Okay, Bills football is very

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Speaker 1: important to you. It dictates a big fat chunk of

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Speaker 1: your quality of life. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick ruin

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Speaker 1: your twenties. They ruin your thirties. You will never get

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Speaker 1: them back. Be mad about that? And the players. Every interview,

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Speaker 1: every signing, every selfie, every breath of Buffalo air has

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Speaker 1: a big fat New England asterisk. Are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: something about or are you gonna say? You know? Wild

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Speaker 1: Card's pretty cool? Hey, we got some lovable fans, we

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Speaker 1: got great wings. Screw your wings. I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see some wings. I want to see

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Speaker 1: some gut. You can snap a table, snap the cycle, branch, Welker, Moss, Gronkowski,

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Speaker 1: the spokes on a wheel. This one's on top of you,

463
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Speaker 1: that one's on top of you, and on and on

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Speaker 1: it spins, crushing you on the ground. Have anybody in

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Speaker 1: this year you want to stop the Patriots wheel. It's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful dream. You're not the first team that's ever

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Speaker 1: dreamt it. Say it with me on Saturday at four

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Speaker 1: thirty pm. You're not going to stop the wheel. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna break the wheel. Kyle Brandt was on fire. He

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Speaker 1: has become the number one Builds fan and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to win him over right on our show. He's been

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Speaker 1: on every week this this this year, this season, and

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Speaker 1: it's been fun having him and his energy is obviously

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Speaker 1: on everyday occurrence and and he's always given us a

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Speaker 1: little bit of something. Um. He is not I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this though. He's one of those fans. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: cut his team and he slack. Oh I don't mean

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Speaker 1: he's like yeah, like this call in the building he's not.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little new to this party because

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Speaker 1: he didn't live through. He wasn't a Bills fan through

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Speaker 1: you know the two thousand you know the the two

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Speaker 1: year two thousand through two thousand and sixteen. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: part of that deal there. He's only been in the

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Speaker 1: l and so he is not cutting him any slack.

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Speaker 1: He has higher expectations and so and he's holding him

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Speaker 1: to it. He's holding him accountable. It's you know, we're

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Speaker 1: kind of winning him over. I liked it, I like,

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Speaker 1: I like, And listen, he's right. Don't be afraid of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, don't be afraid of poking the barrel. Don't

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Speaker 1: wake up Brady. Now go in and beat him. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what we say on this show, what callers are

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Speaker 1: gonna say on our show, what is printator written? It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter a lick, it doesn't matter. Go beat him.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. What do you think? Give us

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Speaker 1: a call to the Patriots? Have a Tom Brady problem?

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Speaker 1: What else you want to talk about? Eighth three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Steve on the line from Ohio to get

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Speaker 1: us started, Hello, Steve, welcome, this is a great show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Steve. You're welcome. Hey, before I go into

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Speaker 1: tom Brady real quickly. A few years I lived in

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Speaker 1: Rhode Island and east side of Providence was up there.

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Speaker 1: This summer stayed beyond me. Great odell. We have kets. Yeah, Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if you know the history of

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Speaker 1: Haven Brothers. Oh, I've been there, Yeah, the best Haven Brothers. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think it must have been. I've been

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Speaker 1: there in a while. Fifteen years ago. I went out

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Speaker 1: on the town the night before it must have been

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Speaker 1: a Monday night game with then my color man Alex

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Speaker 1: van Pelt, and we ended the night as many people

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Speaker 1: in Providence do, with a late night trip to Haven

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Speaker 1: Brothers night before the game. It's a great place. Hot

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Speaker 1: dog truck right, Steve parked right downtown Providence. One hundred

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Speaker 1: years old, family passed down and then you're right. I

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Speaker 1: remember many times late at night, and then to be honest,

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Speaker 1: to actually sleep well after that's kind of rough. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: well now I was introduced to Haven Brothers. One of

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Speaker 1: my best buddies in high school went to Providence College

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Speaker 1: and he introduced me to Avon Brothers. So this is

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Speaker 1: forty some years ago, and it's still there, right, it's

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Speaker 1: still there. You and I are about the same age.

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Speaker 1: And I lived there when I was fifteen and fourteen

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Speaker 1: and sixteen, and I was there. That don't be there

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Speaker 1: a long time, my friend, I gotta try to get there.

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Speaker 1: I've been there in a while, Steve, and and you know,

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Speaker 1: and and Steve, Steve on the phone, it seem to

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Speaker 1: agree with this. Hot dogs aren't that great there at

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Speaker 1: Haven Brothers. But it's just the the atmosphere. It's the ambience, right,

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Speaker 1: It's it's a truck. They have beans to go with

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Speaker 1: the hot dog. It's just kind of a weird atmosphere

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Speaker 1: that makes them good, right, Steve on the phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go there and from people from all over town,

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Speaker 1: whether it's in a let's say, more wealthy your areas

534
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Speaker 1: to the not so wealthy areas. And the culture. It's

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Speaker 1: a dirty old truck. Yeah, I mean you take a

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Speaker 1: flu shot when you walk. You got to go there.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go Haven Brothers. I love it. Now. You

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Speaker 1: got me pumped. What else you want to talk about, Steve?

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Speaker 1: You're not impressed? Steve by this Haven Dog. No, I

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Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Yeah, it's being a certain

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Speaker 1: place to go to Haven. I imagine. Go ahead and

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Speaker 1: Steve on the phone, thank you, Murph, Yeah, Murph and

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Speaker 1: Steve again. Maybe being this age and just wishful thinking,

544
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Speaker 1: but yes, Brady is forty two and you're starting to

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Speaker 1: see a couple of kinks in the armor. I'm not

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Speaker 1: poking the bear, I hope too much, because anybody is

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Speaker 1: forty two. I mean I was forty three when he started.

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Speaker 1: So I mean I think they're right for the taking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can Brady have great games, but when it used to

550
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Speaker 1: be ten out of ten games, now it might be

551
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Speaker 1: seven out of ten games. And the way Buffalo's coming up,

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Speaker 1: you're talking to sixty percent completion rates to fifty nine

553
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Speaker 1: with Josh. You're talking eighteen touchdown passes and nine and

554
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Speaker 1: completions with Josh and twenty or twenty one passes I

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Speaker 1: think touchdowns and seven with Brady with the number one defense,

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Speaker 1: as you said, Murph. So my point and I'll let

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Speaker 1: you guys discuss that. I think he's right for the taking,

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Speaker 1: I really do. But we have to be on our

559
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Speaker 1: game because it is and it's dollar checks yeah, I

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Speaker 1: hear you. Yeah, Steve, thanks, thanks for the Haven Brothers call.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to get over there. And here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: even I know you don't like this Twitter poll and

563
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Speaker 1: not trying to look I didn't say the Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the Bills guaranteed winners Saturday? Of course not. Of course,

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Speaker 1: that's the number one defense in the NFL, their home.

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Speaker 1: Brady is capable of having a good game. All I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is by video observation, visual observation and looking at

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Speaker 1: those numbers, I think the case can be made that

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is not approaching the wall, but maybe has

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Speaker 1: hit the wall. That's all I'm saying. You don't like that, No,

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Speaker 1: I'll see. I'm he's still playing good enough for them

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Speaker 1: to win games. Of course they you know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going around this week. Certainly the Patriots

574
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Speaker 1: are winning differently than they have in years past. They

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Speaker 1: have always found ways to win. They looked like a

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Speaker 1: different team week to week, let alone year to year.

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Speaker 1: Last year I told you this run game when they

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Speaker 1: won the World championship. Not there but right, but oh seven.

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Speaker 1: It was the Randy Moss and Tom Brady and all

580
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Speaker 1: those guys throwing the football all over the field and

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Speaker 1: winning games with years wars right, They've just found ways

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Speaker 1: over the years to do it. And I think that

583
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Speaker 1: this is different than that. It is a big defense

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Speaker 1: that is impossible to score points on and they're winning

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Speaker 1: games that way. Steph Gilmore two pick two interceptions last

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Speaker 1: week and one pick six and he didn't get Defensive

587
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Speaker 1: Player of the Week this year. This week, Tardevious White did.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of stink going around in New

589
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Speaker 1: England about that. And I think the only recommendation or

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Speaker 1: the only argument you can make in favor of Turdevious

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Speaker 1: White is he did it against the Pittsburgh Steelers who

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Speaker 1: were eight in five, and Steph Gilmour did it against

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Speaker 1: the one and thirteen Cincinnati Bengals. That's the only difference,

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Speaker 1: because Steph Gilmour is playing as well or better than

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Speaker 1: any corner in the league. And and there you can

596
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Speaker 1: use a net for the motivations. He got snubbed for

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Speaker 1: the Defensive Player of the weekend. I'm a get it.

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Speaker 1: You have a guy that plays like that and your

599
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Speaker 1: teammates are gonna stick up for Hey, you should have

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Speaker 1: got it. You did the exact, you did better than

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Speaker 1: the guy who actually won it because you took one

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Speaker 1: of your picks to the house. There's a strong case

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Speaker 1: to be made for that. I will say this, This addition,

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Speaker 1: and you made this point, this addition to the Bills

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Speaker 1: is really built and centers around their defense in such

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Speaker 1: a way that is built to beat that Patriots team.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one thing to get got by in

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Speaker 1: the lead up to this season. That's one thing that

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Speaker 1: got by the Jets. That's one thing that got by

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. All though the Dolphins are going the other direction,

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Speaker 1: but it's one thing that got by the Jets and

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. To beat that team, you need to defend

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Speaker 1: the If you want to win the AFC East, you

614
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Speaker 1: gotta beat the Patriots. You gotta build your team to

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Speaker 1: beat that team. The problem over the last twenty years

616
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Speaker 1: has been you don't know what team that's gonna look like.

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Speaker 1: They are so good at changing their identity week to week,

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Speaker 1: but you don't know what that's supposed to look like.

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Speaker 1: This team, this edition of the Buffalo Bills, is different.

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Speaker 1: Say listen, we're gonna hold you down and keep it

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Speaker 1: to a one score game. Up. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: chance throughout that game to beat you with one play

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Speaker 1: like they this last week. The Patriots made the one

624
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Speaker 1: play that the Bills couldn't make. They blocked a punt

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That was the difference in the game.

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Speaker 1: They came up big when when Josh went out with

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Speaker 1: a concussion and Barkley came down, had one chance to

628
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Speaker 1: win it on the throw down deep in their end

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Speaker 1: and couldn't and couldn't complete the pass. So that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff is what this Bills team is putting itself

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Speaker 1: in position to do. That's what you gotta do. You

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Speaker 1: gotta build yourself to beat the Patriots in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and that's where the Bills are right now. They got

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Speaker 1: a good chance to do it because their defense has

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Speaker 1: been so good. The problem is, that's exactly the way

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Speaker 1: the Patriots built their team this year. That's what you're

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Speaker 1: contending with. You got to make the one, two, the

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Speaker 1: three plays throughout the game that are going to be

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Speaker 1: the difference. So whatever you say about Tom Brady where

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Speaker 1: he's at, or where their defense is at, or vice

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Speaker 1: for where their running games at. Who guys they got hurt,

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Speaker 1: who's in and out? They are going to find a

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Speaker 1: way to keep it close and win the game by

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Speaker 1: making the play in the crucial situation. That's what this

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Speaker 1: game is going to come down to. Last time they

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Speaker 1: met in Week four, it was a play in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter. It was where maybe the first quarter it

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00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: was the block punt for a touchdown. That was the

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Speaker 1: play of the game. You didn't know what was gonna

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Speaker 1: end up that way, but that was the play of

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Speaker 1: the game. You've got to make those in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: second quarter, the third quarter, fourth quarter. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Tom Brady, for all his problems, or all

654
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Speaker 1: his age or all ever, he's made more of those

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Speaker 1: anybody else in a history of the game. And they're

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Speaker 1: still expecting him to be able to do that without

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Speaker 1: much help, no question. But man o, man, that's hard

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Speaker 1: to sit here. After the history we've seen and the

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Speaker 1: way that team has amorphed from week to week and

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Speaker 1: year to year, it's hard to expect him to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's time for us to beat him

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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, okay, I think it's get on board

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Speaker 1: with that. That's gonna it's gonna be a You hope

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. You hope it's going to be a

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00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: close game. You know, you hope your defense they don't

666
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Speaker 1: catch lightning in a bottle for one play, yeah, one play.

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00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: So it's it's not a great offense. It's not a

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Speaker 1: great offense. And what do you think they're saying about

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Speaker 1: our offense? It's not a very good offense or saying

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Speaker 1: the builds. So here we go, yeah, can here we go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk more about this. We welcome your calls.

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Speaker 1: What do you think as Tom Brady hit the wall

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Speaker 1: to the Patriots have a Tom Prady problem. We're not

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Speaker 1: saying it, we're asking it, and we'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: your response. Eight three fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight by fifty two five fifty more to come. One

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Speaker 1: Studio on Archard Park, Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing comes close.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Goes Live. Practice has ended for the bills.

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Speaker 1: They are working through this as if it's a Friday.

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Speaker 1: You know it is not. It is only a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Although see if I did find myself waking up this

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Speaker 1: morning thinking what's today? That's just a weird week. It

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Speaker 1: is Thursday. Friday, step you get a little donut two Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to talk about the consequences of what

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Speaker 1: would happen to Tom Brady and all that stuff. Yeah,

687
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: don't technically, wasn't a donut an apple fritter? So good?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Steve thinks it's a dangerous territory

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Speaker 1: to ask this question. We're asking it. We dare to

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00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: go where no one else will do. The Patriots have

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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady problem. Give us a call to discuss

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Speaker 1: eight three fifty to three one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty voting to the Twitter poll will read

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Speaker 1: your tweets in a moment. Uh is it? I guess

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Speaker 1: it's a dangerous question, But what what else? You know?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Once? Jerry? And hello, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: welcome once? Why not kill yourself with your own work? Jerry?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're on the air. Okay. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good pole, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: about four days too early. I have to agree with

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Speaker 1: Steve because you know, Brady is still good. And forget

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00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: about the stats, forget about what the tapes say, Let

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Speaker 1: the game speak for itself, and let's talk about that

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Why all right? Can we go home? Then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're just talking. We're here to talk plenty

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Speaker 1: of more of it. We're here to talk to you. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want that Tom Brady. Go ahead, I think

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Speaker 1: he's the most relevant topic. Go ahead, Jered, topic for today?

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Speaker 1: What's that? I say? I would not agree that it's

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Speaker 1: a good topic for today. Why what are you worried about?

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. I just think that it's

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: it is a good topic. But we can answer that

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Speaker 1: question on Monday after the Bills beat the Patriot. You

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Speaker 1: got nothing on that? Oh no, I didn't hear you reply.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry we didn't reply. Look, I get you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a We're asking a question here. We're not burying Brady.

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Speaker 1: We're asking a question. The way he now you were

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00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: quiet for a minute. Now let me finish. The way

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Speaker 1: he has played. The way he looks, I think leads

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Speaker 1: to the question, what's going on with Brady? He doesn't

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Speaker 1: look right. He doesn't look the same quite frankly, as

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Speaker 1: he did early in the season. Do they have a

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Speaker 1: problem with Brady? That's the question. I'm not answering one

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Speaker 1: where the other I think it appears to me like

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: he has hit the wall. And I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the league, but his numbers are down,

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Speaker 1: his demeanor seems off. He's throwing to nobody, He's got issues,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have enough targets. The running game not strong

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Speaker 1: as it was last year when they went and won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The defense is great. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a legitimate question. I think it is maybe the central

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Speaker 1: question of the week for the Buffalo Bills. Not that

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Speaker 1: they're going in against a bad quarterback, but all this

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Speaker 1: angst and all this I think, quite frankly respect grudging

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Speaker 1: respect that the Bills and their fans have for the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's time to think, Hey, you know, the things

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Speaker 1: have changed. The thing has turned a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: not just the way he was five years ago. He's

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Speaker 1: not the way he was three months ago. That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Steve, Jerry gone, Jerry, are you there? I

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Speaker 1: guess think I don't know what kind of awkward silences

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Speaker 1: are going to be. You go in and lose to

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Speaker 1: this team, Well, whatever, I'm willing to take that, I'll

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Speaker 1: come back and take the hits from you. Monday, and

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Speaker 1: you've been living that way for twenty years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy has never shown anything other than the ability

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Speaker 1: to get that team to a win. Maybe you can

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Speaker 1: attribute it to their running game last year or to

749
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Speaker 1: their defense this year, but the guy don't lose games.

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Speaker 1: And the last two of their last three. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: they're eleven and three, three of their last six. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a maz So it's hard to say they don't

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Speaker 1: lose games. He doesn't lose games. Edelman's been hurt too.

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Speaker 1: They've gotten nobody, you know, he's got no help. I mean,

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00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: you can blame Tom Brady all you want, but let's

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Speaker 1: face it, that's a that's an offense that lost a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame tight end and uh, one of the

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00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: most clutch slot receivers in the over the last eight

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Speaker 1: years in the in the NFL, and he's been nicked up.

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00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: They've got a stellar defense. Uh, they're not winning games

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Speaker 1: big even when they do win them for the most part,

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Speaker 1: although they did lump up the Cincinnati Bengals this last week.

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Speaker 1: So I just I just think this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a game that you're gonna even if you win, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna think you're gonna just you know, you know, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna escape with a win out of that place.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna roll in there and steam

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Speaker 1: roll them. And I think you know, when you start

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Speaker 1: asking particularly about great players and or if you to

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Speaker 1: your point, a formerly great player who's still playing, um,

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Speaker 1: I just think I just think it's always premature to

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Speaker 1: call those guys out until they retire, nobody's calling them

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Speaker 1: out asking a question, nobody's calling them out. You're inferring

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Speaker 1: that they got a problem with him because he's not

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Speaker 1: good enough. Let's go to Lewis and Buffalo. Hello, Lewis,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey Murphy, Steve big fan of

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00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: the show, guys, Hey you good. Go ahead. Like what

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00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: I want to say is I agree with Steve let

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Speaker 1: One here, murf. I feel like we're hiding behind the

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Speaker 1: question mark by saying, you know, did he hit the

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Speaker 1: wall and asking it to the fans. We all know

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Speaker 1: at forty two, just his numbers aren't the only thing

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Speaker 1: down in his lifetime right now, but he is Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He is going to show up. And we have lived this,

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00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: nothing has changed. We still lost to them, were still

786
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: are behind them right now. What we need to do

787
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Speaker 1: is focus on being humble, staying back, coming with almost

788
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Speaker 1: like a sneak attack, like a ninja from behind them

789
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Speaker 1: in the mouth, and get it over with. But to

790
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: come face to face with the heavyweight champion is not

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Speaker 1: the best and smartest thing. And that's all I think

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Speaker 1: Steve is trying to say in as long as you know,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the mafia is trying to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: look at no, we don't have a respect for the

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Speaker 1: Patriots the way everyone thinks that we do. We have

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Speaker 1: a fear of them. And the reason is they come

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00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: in and they show us out every time, no matter

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Speaker 1: how good we think we are. And now that we

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Speaker 1: really have a solidified chance to do this, let's just

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Speaker 1: get it done quietly and we'll talk about it later. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get you. I don't agree, but I get you.

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Speaker 1: First of all, there's there is a distinction between the

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Speaker 1: way we talk about this game and the way Bills

804
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: players and coaches talk about this game. Yeah, you don't

805
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: hear them saying that. Yeah, there's a there's a wall

806
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: between us and the team and the coaches for a reason,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they they see this game much

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Speaker 1: differently than we talk about it, um, and we're not.

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00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: We're we're as far away from the Bills players and

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Speaker 1: coaches as anybody include. You know, we're as far away

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Speaker 1: from him as Bill Belichick is. I mean we you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't we don't sit in on meetings, we don't

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Speaker 1: watch them. We don't even watch him practice. Uh. We

814
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Speaker 1: just you know, observe him closely. And we'll have guests

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Speaker 1: on once in a while. But you know, the guests

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Speaker 1: we have on it's just like the public uh, media sessions,

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00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: the team does everybody. We just happen to be closer

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Speaker 1: at hand. That's it. So uh and I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it'd be ludicrous to say any media

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Speaker 1: has any effect on any outcome of the game. It's

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Speaker 1: the players and the coaches that do it on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the of the outlook. But I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: there is a mindset about that we've seen all too

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Speaker 1: often outside of New England where people throw darts at

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Speaker 1: him and they you know, they they say they're cheaters

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Speaker 1: or they say that they're uh uh you know, just

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Speaker 1: because they have Tom Brady they win, or just because

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Speaker 1: they have Bill Belichick they win or whatever, whatever, whatever. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a thought process outside of New England

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Speaker 1: says you know, they just keep winning no matter what,

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Speaker 1: you can't beat them. There is that, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: think you know my feelings about this Twitter poll. I

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Speaker 1: know that. Listen, we we're gonna have Thurmon Thomas on

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Speaker 1: here today. You want to talk about a guy that

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Speaker 1: can construe rhetoric to motivate himself. This is the kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff that a player would use to motivate himself.

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Speaker 1: If you're a guy like Tom Brady to look at

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Speaker 1: it and say, you know, oh you think they got

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Speaker 1: a me problem, I'll show you a me problem. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You're gonna have a meat problem

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Speaker 1: this week. You watch me that kind of thing. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's I'm kind of in that camp. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: got we got a break here. We're coming back. Thurmon's

844
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Speaker 1: by the way, stopping by one o'clock. Come on back

845
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: for that. But we got another segment before that. Come

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Speaker 1: on back. One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health from

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00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. John Murphy's teef. Taskeron It's it's a look.

849
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: You gotta give it. Give us this for the Twitter poll,

850
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: tasty if it's been fun, I mean it's fifteen minutes

851
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: into the show. We're having fun with it. Yeah, I

852
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: get it. I listen it. We're a million miles from

853
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: the center of the universe with this question, even for

854
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: Bills fans. But still, here's just something about it. The

855
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: grinds here, we're going to the tweet sheet here. It's

856
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: brought to you by Cargan Moving Systems, the official movers

857
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Simple question. It's a question, not

858
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: a declarative sentence. Do the Patriots have a Tom Brady problem?

859
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Here's one that didn't make it to the sheet yet,

860
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: but I think it's Paul tweets this, and I'm with Tasker.

861
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Just shut up. If you want to talk crap, do

862
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: it Monday. Okay, right, not talking crap. We're asking a question.

863
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: There is evidence, I've said this now too many times,

864
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: evidence visually and statistically that something's wrong with Tom Brady,

865
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: and he's forty two years old. I think it's a

866
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: fair question to ask do they have a problem. Brian

867
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: tweets this in on the Twitter poll. For a long time,

868
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: people would say, quote, it doesn't matter who he has

869
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, he can throw them open or find

870
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: the open man. That's not happening anymore. He's right, it's not.

871
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: And they look. A couple of weeks ago, I met

872
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: made this point. They have not drafted really a lot

873
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: of skill position people. Sonny Michelle being an exception. He's

874
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: not that great. Yeah, well his career just getting started.

875
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean he had a decent game, but he missed

876
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: half a season with his training camp injury. I'm just

877
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: saying they don't have great receivers because they haven't drafted

878
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: good receivers and they've failed I think in drafting, and

879
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I know the record, and I just think the end

880
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: is here. It's not near. The end is here for

881
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots, maybe as soon as two days from now.

882
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of what It's interesting because from the second

883
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: tweet on our tweet sheet from Jeremiah says that says, No,

884
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots do not have a Tom Brady problem, but

885
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: hopefully Brady has a Buffalo problem. On Saturday, semantics, semantics,

886
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: if the Bills go in and beat Tom Brady, and

887
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Can we re ask this question, what do

888
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: you think? Well, we'll be able to assess it against

889
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: he Listen, He's gonna plays a really good defense on Saturday. Yeah,

890
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: no question about it. And it happens to be the

891
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense, and our offense will be playing against an

892
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: even better Patriot defense. So yeah, you still gotta beat

893
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: that team. And if you here's the thing. You go

894
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: in there, you score three points and they score six,

895
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: and Brady goes one for twenty seven with three inter

896
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: set ops. He still gets the win. And what does

897
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: that prove? As far as this question today, it's all

898
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: about the team. Man can say that Brady this Brady,

899
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: that if they beat you, Brady gets to win. Here's

900
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: a well thought out response to the question on the

901
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: twitter On the tweet sheet, do the Patriots have a

902
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Tom Brady problem? Max tweets and wishful thinking? And it

903
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: might be I acknowledge that Max says wishful thinking. Tom

904
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: is not covering up the obvious deficiencies anymore like he

905
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: used to, but he's not a problem by any means.

906
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: The wide receiver corps, being devoid of reliable talent besides Edelman,

907
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: is a problem and drop balls. No, separation is a problem.

908
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: But not Brady, he says, not just not yet. At

909
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: least I listened to that. I'm kind of in that camp.

910
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: How much how different would it be if Gronk was

911
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: still their play was? It would be different. It would

912
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: be different. You know how many you know? How different

913
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: would it be if they still had Josh Gordon or

914
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown there? It'd be different. I can't and kill

915
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Harry and Edelman, and that is it. That's the only

916
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: guys I can think of Dorset. Yeah, so here you are,

917
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: and you got this guy throwing to those guys. It's

918
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: it's it's to Mohammed Sanu. One more from the tweet

919
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: sheet from Tiffany, again well thought out. Do the Patriots

920
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: have a Tom Brady problem? Tiffany responds, I believe they do.

921
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: He is an aging legend showing signs of decline. It'll

922
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: be an interesting off season for the Patriots if Brady

923
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: designs to play, they'll be between a rock and a

924
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: hard place. Do you honor? Is past accomplishments or moving

925
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: another direction? I hope he retires. She's not. You know,

926
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: that's a discussion for January and We're gonna have shows

927
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: in January February where hopefully we have this discussion. But

928
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: she's onto it. That's that's an important distinction to who

929
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: knows where they go right? Who knows what Brady does?

930
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Who knows that you want to play? Do they want

931
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: him back? Does Belichick insist that they find a new quarterback?

932
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't have these answers. Oh, It's interesting to me

933
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: that there's so many people who leave He's going to

934
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: play for another team somehow, someway. A lot of people

935
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: think that I cannot. I could not subscribe less to

936
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: that way of thinking. I don't think, knowing what I

937
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: know about their owner Robert Kraft, who isn't despite any

938
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: issues he's had away from the field or all the

939
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: stuff that goes on, whatever you think about him. No, No,

940
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: this that guy is is at the core of everything

941
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: they do. I mean, his leadership has been stellar. I

942
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: know guys who have interacted with him, former players from

943
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: all over the league, not just former Patriot players. Bruce Smith,

944
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis, guys like that, all these old guys who

945
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: have interacted with Robert Craft and me myself, I have

946
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: interacted with him on a number of occasions, and you

947
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: couldn't ask for a more quality guy who cares deeply

948
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: about his team. Now, here's why I say that, Because

949
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: he works and they take the shot of him in

950
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: the booth every game. That's exactly the reason. Yeah, that's

951
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: there's no other reason. Here's the thing. I don't think

952
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: a guy like Robert I don't think Robert Kraft is

953
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna let Tom Brady play for any other helmet other

954
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: than the one he's worn for twenty years. I think

955
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: he will make sure Tom Brady ends his career as

956
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: a Patriot. And I told you this a few years ago.

957
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason Tom Brady is still

958
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: playing there today. I think Bill Belichick tapped Jimmy Garoppolo

959
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: as the guy they were going to move to, and

960
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: Robert Craft stepped in said, you ain't. You are not

961
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: trading my kid, right, you can trade Garoppolo, but you're

962
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: not trading my guy. And I think that's the only

963
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: reason Jimmy Garoppolo is not there now and we're not

964
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: on another cycle of what we've just been through for

965
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: twenty years. I think is because Robert Craft said, no,

966
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: he's not playing for anybody but us. Ever and I

967
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: think that continues to be the case. So I don't

968
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: think this if this is the last year or not,

969
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: maybe okay, whatever, but I think when it is last year,

970
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: it's going to be in a Patriots uniform, not in

971
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: anybody else's uniform. All right, we'll see. Hey, we got

972
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, a Hall of Paper standing body to join

973
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: us when we come back. We'll ask him this question

974
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: and get more of your thoughts as well. Come on back.

975
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: Our number two approaches one Bills Live presented by Kalida

976
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: Health Live from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills

977
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: Radio Bills Radio Network Sports Date. Wilson wrapped up their

978
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: practice indoors here at the ad Pro Sports Training Center

979
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: walk through tomorrow morning. Then they head for New England.

980
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: They play a Saturday afternoon in the Bills on the

981
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: Patriots four thirty pm Gillette Stadium in Foxborough. Josh Allen

982
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: oh for two in his career against the Patriots, two

983
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: very rough days against New England in his young career.

984
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: So Josh is twenty three years old. If the Bill

985
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: should win, he would join twenty two year old Tomar

986
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Jackson twenty four year old Deshaun Watson and twenty four

987
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: year old Patrick Mahomes as the next quarterback to beat

988
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: the Bills this year. First time in the Belichick era

989
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: that four quarterbacks under the age of twenty five beat

990
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: New England in a single season. Interesting. The injury update

991
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: nothing yet from the Bills, keeping an eye on Corey Legit,

992
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: who was limited yesterday with his knee Patriots. The report

993
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: from there says that cornerback Jonathan Jones, their nickel corner,

994
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: was not at practice today and is expected to be

995
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: ruled out on Saturday. Not official yet. Bill's Patriots broadcast

996
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: on our flagship station WGR and Sports Radio five fifty.

997
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll be in a broadcast booth with Eric Wood. Sal

998
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: Capacho will be on the sidelines. Brian Flores, Dolphins coach,

999
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: is not interested in evaluating his quarterback position this week.

1000
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: He says he's interested in playing the quarterback that gives

1001
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: him the best chance to win. That means that the

1002
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: three and eleven Dolphins will play Ryan Fitzpatrick, the thirty

1003
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: seven year old journeyman, thinking he gives them the best

1004
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: chance of a win, and not Josh Rosen. Jacksonville Jaguar's

1005
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: owner Shad Khan fired Executive vice President of the Football

1006
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Operations Tom Coughlin yesterday, two days after the NFL Players

1007
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Association Warren players of signing with that franchise because of

1008
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: excessive fines and player grievances. Vikings running back Dalvin Cook

1009
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: unlikely to play in their showdown with Green Bay on

1010
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Monday night because of a shoulder injury. According to ESPN,

1011
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: the Vikings even leaning towards shutting him down for the

1012
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: final two regular season games of the year, and the

1013
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers in action tonight. They played the Philadelphia Flyers

1014
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: tonight on the road. Face off is at seven o'clock tonight.

1015
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: Jack Cho will try to keep his NHL best seventeen

1016
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: game point streak alive, one game away from tying Jill

1017
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: bert Pero for the franchise record. This is the first

1018
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: of three meetings between the Sabers and the Flyers this season.

1019
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: And that's the update from One Bill's Live. John Murphy

1020
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio, joined by

1021
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas with his regular

1022
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: weekly visit. Hello Thurman, Happy holiday. He's good to have

1023
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: a computer for the guests over here. Every now. Yeah,

1024
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: can we get one for you. I'm gonna try to

1025
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: what would you do with it? What do you want

1026
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: to do? Nothing more to us? That's a distraction. Hey,

1027
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: what about this. Let's jump right into this. Right Thurman

1028
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: has jumped into some NFL. He's gonna be on my side.

1029
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, this this Tom Brady thing? All right, well,

1030
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: let me let's throw up the Twitter. Let's do that.

1031
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: Start with that, because you know you have a thought

1032
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: on that. It's a simple question. It is only a question.

1033
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: That's not a station question about Tom Brady. Do not

1034
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: question Tom Brady. I mean, I know you're a media guy.

1035
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: You're you're allowed to do that or whatever. Guy, have

1036
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: no impact on the game. You think anything? We say

1037
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, This was Miami week writes something about me?

1038
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: And see how the impact the game the Patriots have.

1039
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: The question is to the Patriots have a Tim Brady problem?

1040
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: Let me double check and see what the fans are

1041
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: thinking on the Twitter poll. Not that that has much

1042
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: of an impact, but it has some. And look you

1043
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: I showed you the numbers over the last five games.

1044
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: I watched four of their games, their last four games,

1045
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: fifty four percent about responding and said, yeah, they got

1046
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: a tom Brady problem. You don't think so, Terman, I

1047
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: don't think it's a Tom Brady. I don't think it's

1048
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: a talent problem. I think that's more worth it than

1049
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: anything you look at. Look at Edelman, I mean, because

1050
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: he really had the typical Edelman year. No, he's been hey,

1051
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: but he's been banged up and up. And if I'm

1052
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: a defensive for the Buffalo Bills or anybody, I see

1053
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: that guy coming across the mill, I'm taking a shot.

1054
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm tackling harder than I used to. I'm taking them

1055
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: all the way down to the ground. I mean I

1056
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: think I saw a shot where he was in practice,

1057
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: just barely limping around, and I told him it looked

1058
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: like me when I was my last Yeah. So this season, yeah,

1059
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: I think I think it's more of a talent problem. Um,

1060
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, this is the first year he hasn't had Grinkowski.

1061
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: But how many years did he played before Grinkowski got there?

1062
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: Two thousand two, one oh eight, seven or eight years?

1063
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: I guess right, right, seven or eight years? Was there

1064
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: for what eight years? Yeah, So I think he's missing

1065
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: guys like that that's been the problem. I mean, I

1066
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: could probably play right now and finish the year and

1067
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: have more catchures than their tight ends right now. Okay, No,

1068
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: I didn't. It was uncomfortable laughter, Yeah right, I got you. Yeah,

1069
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: you knew. You know what it's like. I mean, you've

1070
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: been there. Words, somebody will say something to do something,

1071
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: you'll say and you're you're spending however you wanted to

1072
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: use it as motivation, right exactly. And I'll tell you

1073
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: this too. We aren't the in our defense here, as

1074
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: you know, we aren't the first people to be saying, hey,

1075
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: he's not playing right right. I mean, it's been a

1076
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: it's been a thing. So we'll see. And I think

1077
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: probably even even you know, some of the questions that's

1078
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: directed at him on his weekly radio show. You know,

1079
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: they've been kind of putting stuff up on Twitter about

1080
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: what he's said, and the thing coming out of the comments,

1081
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: he's blaming everybody else but himself. Yeah. So I mean

1082
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: it's the pressure, is there? Yeah, I mean, but I

1083
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: mean you look at what he's done. I guess this

1084
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: team the last twenty years. I know, that's why you

1085
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: know thirty one in three, Yeah, what we need to

1086
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: make it thirty one at four, that's what it needs

1087
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: to be started. Is just doing big game? You think

1088
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick around thirty more games against the Bills?

1089
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: We again, even enough? I don't think so. I don't

1090
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: think so. And by the way, and I wrote about

1091
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: this on the website, this this might be the last

1092
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: time to Bill's FaceTime Brady and it's thirty one and

1093
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: three records, and that should serve as motivation, I would

1094
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: think for the franchise. But it's and for the fans.

1095
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: It's not just for Tom Brady. It's for our organization

1096
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: against their organizations. Right, It's time to turn this whole

1097
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: thing around, and this is a great opportunity to do it.

1098
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad that we're at this point because right now,

1099
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: usually at this point in time of the year, New

1100
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: England's cruising. Yeah, they've wrapped up the first seed or

1101
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: the second seed. They're cruising right into the playoffs. Well

1102
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: they're right. This just didn't dude. They're eleven and three, right, yeah,

1103
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean I don't we don't know how to we

1104
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: be cruising? Yeah, right, we'll be so. Yeah, they've lost

1105
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: two of their last three, three of the last I

1106
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, Well, have they ever had a three

1107
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: game loser straight probably not right, right, in the last

1108
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: twenty years, probably not. I mean they've probably have been

1109
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: close a couple of times, but you know they're win

1110
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: loss record against one loss or two lass that record

1111
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: the following week is probably right exactly. So I look

1112
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: at this game as a big game and not saying

1113
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: that it's a playoff game or anything like that. It's

1114
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: a big game, you know, mentally for the Bills organization,

1115
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: the fans, and the players too. I think there is

1116
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: something also that this because of the way that I'll

1117
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: give them some credit, because of the way the Bills

1118
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: have played, this game is a little bit higher. It's

1119
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: a way higher profile on the national scale of interest

1120
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: than most because I think people around the country are

1121
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: looking at New England going, huh, they ain't that team anymore,

1122
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, and m but this Bill's team or this Bills,

1123
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: yeah right, and this Bill's team is like, you know, hey, okay,

1124
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: let's I want to see this game. And I think

1125
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a chance there for Buffalo going there, although everybody knows,

1126
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs go in their guns blazing and

1127
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: they sneak out with a one score win. Right, I'm

1128
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: saying so yeah, it's hard to get your mind around

1129
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: the fact that it's even if they do, even if

1130
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady does you know, you know, if there is

1131
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: a bus wreck on the way to the stadium, that

1132
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: they're not going to put up a really good effort, right,

1133
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna it's gonna be a close game, you

1134
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: would think because the Bill's defense. Right, we're with Thurman Thomas,

1135
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Therma Thomas with me and Steve. Let

1136
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: me ask to both of you, both former players, obviously,

1137
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: what's the proper mixture between respect and confidence going into

1138
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: a game like this? And you guys had situations like this,

1139
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: you're growing. You know, you guys went up against Dan Marino,

1140
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer for a long time. Did you

1141
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: respect Dan Marino? I'm sure you did. Did you want

1142
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: to go in there and knock him down? I'm sure

1143
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: you did. Thurman, how do you where do you walk

1144
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: that line? How do you walk that line respect your

1145
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: opponent but think you can go in and beat him? Absolutely.

1146
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever went into a game not

1147
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: respecting my opponent. Yeah, it's just I mean, because weekend

1148
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: and wake out, anything can happen. There have been a

1149
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: couple of times where you know, I think we might

1150
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: have took maybe the Colts a couple of times in

1151
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: the nineties a little bit too lightly and went in

1152
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: there and got beat. So, yeah, you respect your opponents,

1153
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: but you know what, you'd be confident going in the

1154
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: game that, hey, look we're here to change things. We're

1155
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: here to change things. And if you're going to get

1156
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: somebody like Dan Marino or Tom Brady, yeah, you want

1157
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: to win. You want to beat the best, right, you

1158
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: want to beat the best. And you remember too, it's

1159
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: particularly I remember with Marino, it wasn't so much about

1160
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: beating Marina. It's about beating the others, you know, the

1161
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: rest of them. Um, there are guys who weren't as

1162
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: good as Dan. What you know, Dan being as good

1163
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: as his at his job and in the years passing

1164
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: and whatever. This year is Brady too. It's it's about

1165
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: beating the others as much as it is about beating him.

1166
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: And you gotta you gotta take your matchups and you gotta,

1167
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, prepare to beat what they do this year

1168
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: or what they're gonna do this week. And and course

1169
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: the league's evolved away from you know this team's a

1170
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: running team, that team's a throwing team. You got to

1171
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: do both all the time, and you gotta switch from

1172
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: one to the other every week in the league these days,

1173
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: so you kind of lean on you get confidence from

1174
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: your preparation of being ready to play. So what so,

1175
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: as Bills fans, like, when I got here, it was

1176
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: all about the Dolphins. Right when they finally broke that,

1177
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: everybody was, oh, okay, yeah, which one is? Which? Absolutely

1178
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: this is a different generation for the Patriots twenty year

1179
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: run or whatever it may be. I mean, but as

1180
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Bills fans, like when that shriek was done for the

1181
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, everybody around here was, yeah, they were like

1182
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: for the seventies, and I think it'll be this way.

1183
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: I do too, this whole new generation because if you

1184
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: look at two o'clock in the morning when they came

1185
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: in from Pittsburgh, all those were young people. That was

1186
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: a young generation, and now they're involved with all this.

1187
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Yeah, the only reason your team, yeah, they

1188
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: have their team, their team. The only reason old people

1189
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: were at the statement two ams because it was Murph

1190
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: getting off the flight. Probably, guys, I bet I wasn't.

1191
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: I think I was the oldest guy there. But it's

1192
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: true on the blank, No, he's smart to travel. But

1193
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, and it was over the seventies

1194
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and then you got through the age

1195
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: and we started being competitive. And then when the Bills

1196
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: flipped it around late eh, you know, drafted you and

1197
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: we had and got Biscuit. Yeah, and had Bruce, Jim

1198
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: and Andre. You know, then we were we were running

1199
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: and we knew we were we were tough to beat.

1200
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: So it was yeah, it was a it was a

1201
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: moment when it became clear and true to the fans

1202
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: that we got a guy, we got, we got tea,

1203
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: we got, we got some team. And I think it's

1204
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: this way for this This is a young football team.

1205
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: Really when you quarterback, running back, the back of the

1206
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: core of the team, I mean, thank you for voting

1207
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: to Davis White and you know into the Pro Bowl.

1208
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, but it's been it's been

1209
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: a great run so far. And I don't think these

1210
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: guys are done yet. You know. I've been talking to

1211
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: a couple of players and they're ready to go. They're

1212
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: ready to play, and uh yeah, I mean this is

1213
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there watching it four twenty five, ready

1214
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, you know this could be a game.

1215
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: You know that it shows a lot of other people

1216
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: that the following week, how important it will that game be?

1217
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Could be something Murph and I have, Murph and I

1218
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: have tripped down that little fans. Yeah, we've got it

1219
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: all planned out. We got it all planned out. Yeah,

1220
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, it'll never happen, but it's certainly fun to

1221
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: think about it, because I did it ever happen? Yeah?

1222
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Both games are at one o'clock the following week, right well,

1223
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: right now, right now. If we if the Bills win

1224
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: this game, I'll bet you that all of a sudden

1225
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: they'd have to put the Bills Dolphins game later and

1226
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: at the same time. Right really, yeah, yeah, that would

1227
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: be they'd start to juggle that around big time Jets

1228
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: Bills Jets would be late and Dolphins Patriots would be late. Really,

1229
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: I'll bet you that would happened. I don't know. Dervan Thomas,

1230
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: our guests, he's with us for a few more minutes.

1231
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: You can phone in comments and questions for him throwing

1232
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Before we get to that, what did you think of

1233
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: the Sunday night came in? How'd you like having your team,

1234
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: your Bills team on Sunday night football. That was kind

1235
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: of fun, right, Oh it was great man to see uh,

1236
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: you know back on prime time after following week being

1237
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: on primetime. I mean it was outstanding. And man, I'll

1238
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: tell you what. You talk about the little things that

1239
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: coaches do, organizations do. McDermott with that renegade song, I'm

1240
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: telling man, you know that's that's something that you hear

1241
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: other coaches do. Yeah, you know, yeah, Belichick you hear

1242
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: him do stuff like that, or Peterson down and you

1243
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: hear guys do that stuff like Oh, man, that was

1244
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: pretty cool both to have our coach do that. That

1245
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: tells me that he's in tune with everything that's going on. Yeah,

1246
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: he's in tune with everything that's going on. I'm sure

1247
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots got some song too. I have been blown

1248
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: a horn in their you know, whatever their song might

1249
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: be or whatever. Yeah. So I mean it's uh, man

1250
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 1: to see somebody to be creative like that, and really,

1251
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, and the players just they just ate it up.

1252
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: See the Minutemen in New England to shoot theirs off

1253
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: after they square. I wonder mcdermoy had like minutemen here

1254
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: during practice this week. Let's not hear that. Yeah, we

1255
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: don't want to hear this, so man, I just little

1256
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: things like that, Man, that the players have been talking

1257
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: and talking about earlier in the week. Man and say that, Hi,

1258
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: you just fired him up. You know you had Mark

1259
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, you know, twirling the cape, man, you know

1260
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: at Oliver Dash and Man, that was that was something

1261
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: to see, like, this is not intimidating us. We liked this,

1262
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: get this and to have him do that, man, Sean

1263
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: McDermot Coach of the Year, Man, let's go. Yeah, that

1264
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: was a guy that I was brilliant and he got

1265
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: some kudos during the week. To um about the time

1266
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: out he took before the fourth and sixth, fourth and

1267
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: whatever it was, third and nine. I guess it was

1268
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: late in the game when they came out a crucial down,

1269
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: a crucial moment, and he took the time out and

1270
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: the guys right and it resulted in an interception reception

1271
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: in the zone. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's big time.

1272
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: You know. You gotta give it to really him and

1273
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: his coaching staff. I mean, I think really having Leslie

1274
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: Frasier there too. I mean, it's not all on Sean McDermot, right,

1275
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: They got a grease, They have a great relationship man,

1276
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: And you know there's I think people were talking like,

1277
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: will this get Leslie Frasier? You know, a head coaching

1278
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: job where I don't want him to go. I want

1279
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: them to stay right here. Interesting because they are building

1280
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: something right here. This is a place where now you

1281
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: can have a coaches. You know, something may go, some

1282
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: may leave and get some other jobs or whatever. But

1283
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: if you have that core staff here for ten years, man,

1284
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: that means you're doing something very very well. I'll say

1285
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: this too that it was interesting to me and I

1286
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: love thinking about it. That um it called the time

1287
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: out and at the right moment he got some kudos

1288
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: from people noticed that stuff. It's great too that his

1289
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: players saw it, noticed it, saw the results of it

1290
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: their code. I don't know that that's a time out

1291
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott would have called two years ago and guy

1292
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: had that in place. But he has said he said

1293
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: this last year. He said we got to get better,

1294
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, and his coaching STEP's got to get better.

1295
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: We've got to work on it. And you think, well,

1296
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: what's that mean? You know what are you gonna do?

1297
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Coach hard, That's what it means. Being on it that much.

1298
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: He had his hands on in on the defensive calls

1299
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: enough to know that when they lined up and we didn't,

1300
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: and we lined up in a regular defense and their

1301
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: alignment took the time out, came up in a double

1302
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: app double gap blitz, and came off the slot and

1303
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: it ended up in this interception. I don't know that

1304
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: they'd make that call two years ago, but because of

1305
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: the coach are trying to get better, it shows up. Yeah,

1306
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: And I think that really plays in the locker room

1307
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: with the players. Oh. Absolutely, you know they see it.

1308
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely what the players. And another point is remember when

1309
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: they got the first interception in a touchdown, You're like, oh,

1310
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: they got a run. They came together and ran four plays,

1311
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: three players just right down the gut. I think even

1312
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: with that, trying to get the first down, which was

1313
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: which would have ended the game. I think even at

1314
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: that point in time, they put it the defense and

1315
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: everybody on the football field for the Bills were like,

1316
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do, You're not You're not

1317
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: winning this game, right, You are not winning this game.

1318
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Our defense is going to go right back out there

1319
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: and do the exact same thing. We're gonna stop you

1320
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: no matter what, because you very well could have just

1321
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: spread the ball out and maybe had just Josh Allen

1322
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: russelm quarterback draw, you probably would have got six or

1323
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: seven yards. But no, they came together, try to get

1324
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: Frank gored in there for a little minute. But no,

1325
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: if they punted, they said, you know what, you're not

1326
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: winning this game no matter what. That's how confident the

1327
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: defense was going back out there. I bet your fund

1328
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: to watch games with. Who do you watch? Who do

1329
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: you watch Bills games? Road games with? You watch them

1330
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: at home? I watch them at home with the Yeah everything,

1331
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh everything's going man. Yeah, I'm walking around, I'm looking

1332
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: at you, I'm checking everything out. I'm just I'm not

1333
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: in one spot the entire time. Oh yeah, time, my

1334
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: son had a couple of buddies over. My wife sent

1335
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: me out of the room. Yeah, sweared, What were you doing?

1336
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's uh, she goes, honey, you need to

1337
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: go downstairs. It's exciting times. Man, You're you're in it.

1338
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: You're into the games now, and you know we're two

1339
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: games away from the season ending, and we know we're

1340
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 1: going to be in a player I don't know where,

1341
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: but we're there. It's true because people wonder when we

1342
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: were playing you had in the nineteen sixties, guys were

1343
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: kind of our former right generation of success, and we're

1344
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 1: kind of the former generation of success for these guys

1345
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: to and you know, we keep getting thrown out, you know,

1346
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: as the old nineties guys, you know, and and anytime

1347
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: you talk about the team, well they haven't been good

1348
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: since whenever whenever. And I just thought was thinking about

1349
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: this today, it would be astonishing to most people. Maybe

1350
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: not astonishing, maybe be um of course they think, but

1351
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: you can't imagine how hard I me and Thurman and

1352
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: Jim and Bruce and all those old nineties guys are

1353
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: cheering for this team. Oh absolutely, we are so pulling

1354
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: for those guys to be successful. Uh. I've always who

1355
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: can set seam bills history? And that's right good right here?

1356
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, And I'm totally on with it. They can

1357
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: go to fourth straight two, I don't do it. You

1358
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: can knock us out of the off page. You know.

1359
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: We're so we're into because and I'm I'm excited, and

1360
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: we talked about this too. I don't remember ever being

1361
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: in a spot even well as a player. We were.

1362
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: But I'm so excited every week to watch this team

1363
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: play every week every week, even as an old player.

1364
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: When I you know, I've I've covered the league for

1365
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: two decades and all this stuff. I be really, this

1366
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: isn't a fun team to watch, and it's a defensive

1367
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: team and ain't like scoring forty game And then you

1368
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: look at the ratings that come out every week. Bufo

1369
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: was right there at the top. Man, It's right there

1370
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: at the top. People live embraced his team a thirm Monday.

1371
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: In football, your buddy Drew Brees had had quite an

1372
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: evening set records, career records, most passing yards, most passing touchdowns,

1373
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: most passing yards in a single season. He's amazing, if

1374
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: you ask him. I text him yesterday. I told him,

1375
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: I said, I would just give you a couple of

1376
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: days because I know to handle other stuff. I knew

1377
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: everything was going crazy. And actually I texted him like

1378
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the morning, and he texts me

1379
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: back like at six am, so he was already going

1380
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: to work or whatever. But yeah, I congratulate, he told me. Yeah,

1381
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: it was the night was special, you know, Um, you know,

1382
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: man looked like those bills are doing great up there,

1383
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, So give me the video

1384
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: of him throwing passes to his little kids in the

1385
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: little time. All the time boys are just running catching

1386
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: I've been jumping on the couch. Receive this. Yeah, it's

1387
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: great they got he got him saying flag foot flag

1388
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: football all the time. And uh yeah, he just you know,

1389
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: always been a family guy. Uh. You know, you know,

1390
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: I always every time I texted him at the end,

1391
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: I always write Texas board because you know Texas. Yeah,

1392
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: we were That's where we're from, and that's what we do.

1393
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: And uh, he's always been a great friend of mine

1394
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: now for a long long time. You know. Just there's

1395
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: Britt all the kids. Yeah, it's just uh it's great

1396
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: to see Sean Fate just standing there. Just finish this upright.

1397
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know so, I mean, what what would

1398
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: be the difference if he stayed with San Diego? How

1399
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: would they be? I mean, that's a great question. It's

1400
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: a great question, and you think about it all the

1401
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: time when you talk about Drew Brees and he was

1402
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: having a great year in San Diego and he got hurt,

1403
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: he got better, when he got better when he got

1404
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. So yeah, we got better. Right before

1405
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: he left San Diego. I know this. The San Diego

1406
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 1: Chargers were pretty convinced Drew Brees could not play, and

1407
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: that's why they drafted Philip Rivers, or they drafted Eli

1408
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: and traded for Philip Um. That is, he had just

1409
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of flopped around for a couple of years at

1410
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Sandy Diego. And then, and I've said this before publicly,

1411
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: when the San Diego Chargers drafted Philip Rivers, I went

1412
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: in and covered them again for CBS, and Drew Brees

1413
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: was a different guy from top to bottom, front to back.

1414
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: It was. It was the first time he had said

1415
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: it could all go away, and he rededicated, rededicated himself

1416
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 1: to being the guy. He didn't want to Philip ever

1417
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: take his job. And that moment his last year in

1418
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: San Diego was the moment it all changed for him

1419
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: when they had drafted another first round quarterback and now

1420
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,839
Speaker 1: he's debate maybe the best ever. He almost went to Miami.

1421
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he almost went. Oh yeah, so him, that's

1422
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,480
Speaker 1: that's the league and just you just begged for realignment.

1423
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: Please let us play anybody a third before we let

1424
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: you go. Last Friday, you and Patty hosted your Holiday's

1425
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: event to benefit the ECC Foundation. All reports are it

1426
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: went really well. Hey, went well. We actually doubled what

1427
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: we made last year. Yeah, it was outstanding to you know,

1428
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 1: all the sponsors, everybody that came out. Some of the

1429
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: Bills players came out, Josh Allen, you know, Jerry Hughes,

1430
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: uh my Gude, I mean it was it was just

1431
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: great to see some of the younger players, you know,

1432
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: come out and be a part of it, you know,

1433
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: for hour or whatever. Yeah, it was no big deal.

1434
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: But the great room there right, great video. Yeah, and

1435
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: uh no, it was a great time, man. We really

1436
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: really enjoyed you know that night. Man, it was it

1437
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: was a party and everybody left happy. And like I said,

1438
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: we doubled everything that we had made from last year.

1439
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: That's great, good time. Hey, I don't know about next week.

1440
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: It's Christmas obviously coming next week, so I want to

1441
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: ask you on the air whether you're coming in. Are

1442
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: you coming in? I don't know, but you don't have

1443
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: to answer that question. We're not on Christmas Day, but Christmas, No,

1444
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna be out there twenty fifty five knocking

1445
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: on the chake, Santa. But have a great Christmas year, Patty.

1446
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: And Thurman is in town now or kind of way here.

1447
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh he's here, he's here, so yeah, the whole family

1448
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: boat week. Hey, go Bills, go Bills. Yeah Man, thanks, Yeah,

1449
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: all the favorite Thurman Thomas joining us. Matt Chatham, former

1450
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: Patriots linebacker, is gonna be with us when we come back.

1451
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: Come on back for it. One Does Live presented by

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01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This

1453
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Life, John Murphy,

1454
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. You're laughing at something I just said. It's funny.

1455
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: I like cracking yuh yeah, welcome back to the show.

1456
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: Thanks to Thurman Thomas for joining us. And we say

1457
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: that because we know Thurman listens on his way home

1458
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: and we do appreciate it. Happy Holiday's Therm. He might

1459
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: be back next week. You're trying to make a deal

1460
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: with Thurm. Bill's when he's in and it is the

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: if the Bill's Lucy doesn't have to come in. Is

1462
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: that what you're saying. I don't know. Yeah, we'll probably

1463
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: call her not gonna mope around all next week if

1464
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: things don't work out Saturday. No, no, no, nothing like that.

1465
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: But still you gotta have something out there for them

1466
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: to think coming. Here's something that Stoid goes off his

1467
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: radar completely on the line with us right now. A

1468
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: guy who's a pretty reliable observer of the Patriots. He

1469
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: played there, linebacker there from two thousand to two thousand

1470
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: and five, one three Super bowls with the Patriots. Now

1471
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: he is a contributor in New England to the Athletic

1472
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 1: dot Com, works a little bit for nesson and for ESPN.

1473
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: Been on the show before. Happy to him again, Matt Chattam,

1474
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: former Patriots linebacker him at John Murphy, Steve Tasker in Buffalo.

1475
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: Thanks coming on, Hey guys, thanks for having me. Can

1476
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: we should we get right into our Twitter poll? You

1477
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: probably won't like it. Steve doesn't like it. We were laughing. No,

1478
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah. The thing the

1479
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: question is, and it's funny coming from people in Buffalo,

1480
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: but does do the Patriots have a Tom Brady problem?

1481
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,839
Speaker 1: Certainly his stats kind of leap off the page because

1482
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: they don't look like tom Brady stats. Yeah, I mean,

1483
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fair sort of I guess if

1484
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: you were to fly over the over Foxborough for a

1485
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: week or two, those things might appear that way. I

1486
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: think the bigger issue is sort of how the football

1487
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: team was configured, the injuries they've had, and sort of

1488
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: we can't seem to in this market pinned down one

1489
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: week of continuity, whether it be with the offensive line,

1490
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: the receiver group. Elements played banged up all year. He's

1491
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: been a warrior, still put up huge numbers, but they

1492
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: bring in Mohammed Sanu that's meant to be the big replacement,

1493
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: and then he after a ten catch weeks, has a

1494
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain, so he's kind of been hobbled out there.

1495
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: And then you know, the offensive line issues sort of

1496
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: been a swinging gate. At left tackle, they finally get

1497
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: their first round or back, the right tackle in that

1498
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: same week gets sick. He's been up and down with

1499
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,839
Speaker 1: illness listed for three weeks. It's like a Sam Darnold

1500
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: at right tackle kind of situation. So there's been frustration,

1501
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: to say the least. But when things are steady around Tom,

1502
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: it's the same guy. It's just been a difficult here

1503
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: getting to stretch together where they can all work together.

1504
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: So Brady has played okay, in your estimation, he's played well. Yeah.

1505
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean he hasn't like knocked out of the park.

1506
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: It's not as if he's having three hundred yard games

1507
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: each week. But I think part of it is just

1508
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: managing the situation around him. When you're having weeks of

1509
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: issues with protection, you've got to be better and you

1510
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: just have to be judicious with the ball. But no,

1511
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: this has not been a situation of old where you know,

1512
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: they stood in eleven personnel and Tom sits back and

1513
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: throw us for foreigner yards. They just haven't had the

1514
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: week to week consistency with that. I think one guy

1515
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: they're very excited about now is to Kiel Harry their

1516
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: first round or that they just got back a few

1517
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and they just slowly, piece by piece starting

1518
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: to work him into the offense. So if you can

1519
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 1: get again the continuity with the offensive line, you get

1520
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: receiver groups that you can depend on weekend, week out.

1521
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: It's the same old dude. But there has been a

1522
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: lot of Tom just given up on plays and throwing

1523
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: it away at someone's feet or bailing out of bounds

1524
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: with it because he just doesn't like the look, and

1525
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: with the defense playing as well as they have, yeah,

1526
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: there's no reason to get turned over. So that's kind

1527
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: of been them around here. They'd love to get back

1528
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 1: to where they were, but not until he feels safe

1529
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: to do. So they're not going to take negative plays.

1530
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: They're not going to turn the ball over. They're not

1531
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: maybe gonna throw it for fournder yards either. But that's

1532
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: kind of how things are working around here. They're building

1533
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: towards something a little better. Yeah, and you talk about

1534
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: it's not from a lack of effort that Tom doesn't

1535
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: have much help out there. I mean, Edelman's been heard obviously,

1536
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: that's not due to anything except the way the NFL

1537
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: works sometimes. But Nikil Harry has now started to emerge.

1538
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: They invested a first round draft in him. Now he's

1539
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: maybe starting to get healthy and able to contribute. And

1540
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: they also spent a second round draft pick on Mohammed

1541
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: Sanou that doesn't seem to have worked out in a

1542
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: guy who from all accounts so they tried to get

1543
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: for a while before they actually landed him. So they've

1544
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: kind of been putting some stuff over there, trying to

1545
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: give Tom some help, but none of it has worked

1546
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: out as well as they might have hoped. Yeah, I

1547
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: think part of it was just sort of the time

1548
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: into each of these pieces arriving and coming in and

1549
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: out the door. I think the Snow example is a

1550
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: good one. You know, two weeks into sort of being

1551
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: in Foxburg, I think less than fourteen days, something like

1552
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: twelve days in, he has a fourteen target ten catch game.

1553
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that's why they spent the pick, that's

1554
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: why this guy's here. He's gonna fit tremendously. Then the

1555
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: very next week he has one of these high ankle sprains.

1556
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: He gets a diagnosis for several weeks, he comes back

1557
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,520
Speaker 1: the next So for the last few weeks, his repcounts

1558
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: weighed down, his targets are way down. You can tell

1559
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: he's just not the same guy. He's trying to work

1560
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: through something to hopefully be healthy here and the next

1561
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: week or two when stuff gets real serious. But and

1562
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: during that time while it's going on, don't have him

1563
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: the keel. Then you do have ing the keel. And

1564
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: you have a guy who didn't have a camp, who

1565
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: didn't have two thirds of the season, who's learning this

1566
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: particular offense. So it's bringing a lot of guys up

1567
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: to speed. At the same time, you're throwing a left

1568
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: tackle kind of a very very important position, and it's

1569
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: trying to get a whole group up to speed that

1570
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: really didn't have a training camp together with one another.

1571
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: It's sort of this Patriots in season two point zero thing.

1572
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: I think they think it'll be something once they arrive

1573
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but I think we're still in the

1574
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: middle of a growth curve right now. Talking with Matt Chat,

1575
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm former Patriots linebacker, does a lot of media worker

1576
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: regarding the Patriots there in New England. Man, I'm watching

1577
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: Patriots video this week a couple of games, and you know,

1578
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: scratching my head. Man, it just doesn't look the same.

1579
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't look great, and it kind of hit me

1580
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: like a bolt out of the blue. It should have

1581
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: been pretty obvious. They miss Rob Gronkowski, right, They miss

1582
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: Rock a lot. Yeah, it's a little different, obviously when

1583
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: you don't have that sort of steady presence. And I

1584
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: would say even beyond him in the passing game. Last

1585
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: year was a year where he wasn't targeted nearly as heavily,

1586
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: But man, that guy was the best blocking title in

1587
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: the league, and it's it's interesting how when you you

1588
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: know edges, edges are really important in the NFL, both

1589
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: from a protection standpoint and in your running game, and

1590
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: when you don't just you know, collapse an edge each

1591
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: and every down, it yea certainly changes the face of

1592
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: an offense. I think one of the surprising things though,

1593
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: in Gronk's absence wasn't that there wasn't a sort of

1594
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: a decrease in productivity for Julian. I think there was

1595
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: that theory, that thesis so for many many years, and hey,

1596
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: you've got this high end, all pro, best all time

1597
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of tight end dude, and that's just taking a

1598
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: lot of pressure off Edelman. He's being productive because he's

1599
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: getting you know, he's just not getting done well, he's

1600
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: not getting the attention. Well it is. Productivity actually went up.

1601
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: So I think their big issue now is much like

1602
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: most teams in the NFL, other than maybe Kansas City

1603
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: and Baltimore with Andrews in San Francisco, they don't have

1604
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: a high target tight end position. But there's a lot

1605
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: of different ways to score thirty points than without one.

1606
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: But granted, I'm saying that in the last four weeks

1607
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: they've been nowhere near that level, so they're trying to

1608
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I think the return of Ben

1609
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: Watson has been a big help. He's a steady presence. Again,

1610
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: he's not going to get, you know, a lot of

1611
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: targets in the passing game, but he blocks his assignment

1612
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: really well. And they've started to use tall personnel a

1613
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: little bit more than in previous years. It says it

1614
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: says a lot that you know, while we sit here

1615
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: and we're kind of looking at this Patriot team, kind

1616
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 1: of scratched on his saying, Wow, they're got struggling offensively,

1617
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: but they're you know, they're sitting there at eleven and

1618
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: three number, you know, two overall seat in the conference,

1619
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: and and they're obviously doing it not with Tom Brady,

1620
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: they're doing it with the defense, right. And incidentally, they

1621
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: got like what one guy, two guys on the Pro

1622
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: Bowl roster as their defense. It's uh, but they're really

1623
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: they're at historic lows and points allowed, and when you're

1624
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: talking about what's important to a defense, I think points

1625
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: allowed or really where you start. Yeah, I mean, it's

1626
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: just been an incredible year from that side of the

1627
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: ball and the Pro Bowl thing is something that didn't

1628
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: go unnoticed in that locker room. I think Kyle Vanoy

1629
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: was pretty outspoken yesterday social media stuff, and then sort

1630
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: of just wink into the cameras yesterday that they noticed,

1631
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, the year that Kyle had, the year that

1632
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins had. I think midyear we're talking about Jamie

1633
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: Collins as a potential defensive Player of the Year and

1634
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't even get a Pro Bowl, not at all,

1635
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: which was shocking. Here you have Devin mccordy in the

1636
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: back end led the NFL in interceptions, he was the

1637
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: team leader, one of the best players bar none for

1638
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: it for a decade, and he falls behind you know,

1639
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: some other spots that probably shouldn't have happened. So it's

1640
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: just another reason to be salty around here. I think

1641
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,839
Speaker 1: in part, they had a really bad game against the Ravens,

1642
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: like a lot of people did this year, and I

1643
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: think that took a little the steam or maybe the

1644
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: perception of the way what they were doing. But they

1645
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: pretty much jumped right back on the horse after that

1646
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: and got back in the disruptive ways. So a lot

1647
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: like Buffalo. Quite frankly, this is gonna be a fun

1648
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: week because both defenses have been playing at such a

1649
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: high level. What do you expect to happen from the

1650
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati incident with a video camera? I mean it's obvious.

1651
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean the pages said, yeah, okay, we broke the rules,

1652
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: we got caught doing it, we admitted it. There's gonna

1653
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: probably be something coming down from the league. I mean,

1654
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying that it was a violation. What's

1655
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Yeah, I mean, I think with the NFL,

1656
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: they're so unpredictable, I would just presume the worst. I mean,

1657
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: I just because I don't trust their judgment. I think

1658
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of players around the league that, independent

1659
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: of which particular market, don't particularly trust it they'll get

1660
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: it right, So you just guess high. I mean, the

1661
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: reality of the situation was it was a documentary film

1662
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: crew that was there to film. They were credential to

1663
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: do so. When they're at home, they have access to

1664
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: the sideline, the credential they have all that allows them

1665
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: to shoot the sidelines. It's unfortunately a producer that one

1666
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: upstairs didn't know that the rule changed for him when

1667
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't in his own venue. Thought the Browns did

1668
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: okay to them, and he made a mistake. So I

1669
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: hate that it gets played the way it does. I

1670
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: think one of the biggest things from this market is,

1671
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: you know what other incident all around the NFL did

1672
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 1: they leak a video and then added the heck out

1673
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: of it and try to make the guy look bad.

1674
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: It's just a producer from Craft Sports Productions the other

1675
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: end of the building, no interaction whatsoever with the football operations,

1676
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: So that part sucks. So we're probably looking at a

1677
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,480
Speaker 1: fine far halftier than anything here that could have potentially

1678
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: happened where a decade passed. When you play signals actually

1679
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: come into the sideline anyway. I think half of America

1680
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: or two thirds of America or whatever didn't realize that

1681
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: fact when this sort of scandal was blown up. But

1682
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: reality of it is it's a you know, it's sort

1683
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,600
Speaker 1: of a mattress tag that got pulled. But I like

1684
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: to blow up the idea of scandal, and they're gonna

1685
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: make it as something it wasn't. So it's probably gonna

1686
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: be a pretty healthy fine, maybe a late round pick.

1687
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: Who nothing, But if all, if all we're fair, they

1688
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: would just you know, when he set up a tripod

1689
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: and a giant camera and a monitor in front of

1690
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: all these media members. I know, if this were in

1691
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: New England, they'd walk over and tap them on the

1692
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: shoulder said, hey, you can't shoot here. That's not what happens. Now.

1693
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: They set up gestapo and sit back and record them

1694
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: and don't just tell the poor producer from a documentary

1695
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: company that you can't do it. Yeah, and it's interesting

1696
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: too when you guess, Hi, what's I mean? It's not

1697
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: like who you're gonna suspend, if you're gonna get after somebody,

1698
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: the producer, I mean, nobody cares, right. But but by

1699
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: the same token, did that I mean for me? And

1700
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: we've got and we were laughing at this Twitter poll

1701
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: we put out. You know, you kind of poke the

1702
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: bear and I've dubbed it, you know, goat smack. You're

1703
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: talking smack to the goat, right, But also it is

1704
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: one of those situations where you do guess, Hi, what's

1705
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: gonna happen? I mean, is a high guess. There's nobody

1706
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: they can suspend or they can find I don't there's

1707
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: no way they cost you a draft pick or something, right,

1708
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: and do the does the team construe this as motivation,

1709
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. But to be honest, the first

1710
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: reporting was, you know, forty eight hours is after I

1711
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: think they were down at owners meetings at the time,

1712
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: and I believe it was a couple of reporters that

1713
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: work for NFL Network had come out, set up shop

1714
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: and said we're about forty eight hours. We're moved, and say, hey,

1715
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what, the Patriots story checks out. This is

1716
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: a dock company from the media company, And I had

1717
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: nothing to do the football team as long as what's

1718
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: on that video as anything you could find on ALL

1719
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: twenty two or the broadcast copy or any standing any

1720
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: fans in the stands could see you just like you

1721
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: know everyone else. Because the signals are now done through radio,

1722
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: it's really nothing here. So it's just sort of you know, hey,

1723
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 1: you didn't have your seat belt on. You're supposed to

1724
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: wear a seatbelt. Here, here's your fine. But because of

1725
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots, you know, if if one hundred thousand

1726
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: dollars or fifty thousand dollars or you know, kind of

1727
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: like the maculd thing maculdos you know on is on

1728
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: a wakee talkie while plays are going out after Tom's

1729
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: gone down. They didn't overreact that no one got suspended. Uh,

1730
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: but you know it ended up being a number that

1731
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: they'll probably be much higher than now, just because it's

1732
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. And that's the part that sucks. Guy's got

1733
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: a family. It's right before Christmas. He made a mistake.

1734
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: Everything in the story checks out, yet we'll still freak

1735
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: out because of this stupidly branded spygate thing. There's there's

1736
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: no spy Yeah, all right, you're here. Okay, Thanks Matt.

1737
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: Good to talk with you. Thank Youretty easy Man. Great

1738
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: to see you, guys. Enjoy the weekend. Thanks Matt Channa,

1739
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: former Patriots linebacker, three time Super Bowl champion, contributes to

1740
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: the athletic ESPN and nesson in New England. We're back

1741
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: with more in a moment. We'll talk a little bit

1742
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: about that when we return. One Bills Side presented by

1743
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Kalada Health from the Seneca Studio. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1744
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back, does live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker here until three.

1745
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander's coming by it too. Matt channam Steve um

1746
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: handed his take on Spygate two and did you accept

1747
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: his rationale? Yeah, it seemed plausible, and yeah, everybody's got

1748
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: that production arm and this you know, this guy with

1749
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: alah blah blah whatever. Yeah, it's fine. Can you elaborate? No,

1750
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: I cannot elaborate. I got a mouthful of water, please? No,

1751
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean he said, he's obviously it doesn't amount to

1752
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: mouth obviously on the payroll. Well, you know some of

1753
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: us are palls, so we're just the opposite of that, right. No. Look,

1754
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it in any competitive consideration what they did.

1755
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Is it a violation of rules about what you can shoot? Yes?

1756
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: It is. Should there be a fine? Yeah? They probably

1757
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: will be to help the Patriots win games? Is that

1758
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: why they beat Cincinnati last week by twenty one points? Doubtful.

1759
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: I think they wouldn't. They wouldn't cheat if it didn't

1760
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: help it a little. It had nothing to do with football.

1761
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with football. That's my contention.

1762
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: Matt Chatham kind of verified that is his opinion. At least,

1763
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: what did that have to do with football? How could

1764
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: that help? Why is it illegal because it could help?

1765
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: I disagree, okay, and I'm not a Patriots apologist. I

1766
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: am responsible, I guess in certain extent to for today's

1767
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, which is apparently run a file of your

1768
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: of your delicate judgment, a delicate sensibility. Great, I'll see

1769
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: if you can go with this one. I'm not I'm

1770
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: not trying to turn on you here, but see if

1771
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: you'll go with this one. You get two. I'm not

1772
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: to the tweets you yet. Two great cornerbacks in this game.

1773
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: Two Pro Bowl cornerbacks, Stephan Gilmour Trudevious White, each was

1774
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: six interceptions. They both had great years. They belong as

1775
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: the starters in the AFC. But think about these two

1776
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: for a second and compare and contrast. Here's Trudevious White

1777
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: trade aid third year of his rookie deal, which is

1778
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: why this difference is here, and he makes ten million

1779
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: over four years with a fifth year option coming up

1780
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: according to spot tract, so he makes two point five

1781
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: million a year. He's got fifty eight tackles. Stephan Gilmore

1782
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: has got forty four tackles. Avis has a sack. Turdevius

1783
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 1: has two four sumbles, six interceptions and seventeen passes defense.

1784
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: Gilmore has six interceptions eighteen passes defense. Very similar numbers.

1785
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Both Pro Bowl corners, both former Bills draft picks by

1786
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: the way. Gilmore is the third year of a five

1787
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: year deal. Gilmore makes thirteen million a year. Turdevius makes

1788
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: two point five million a year. The question I would

1789
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 1: put to you, Steve, is who would you rather have

1790
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: on your roster? Turdavius is the bargain, Yes, an absolute bargain,

1791
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: no question about it. Now Steph is also he's in

1792
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: his what sixth year, seventh year, something like the third

1793
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: year there and four years here. He's probably in the

1794
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: seventh year, right, So that's it's hard to argue that

1795
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: that Turdavius isn't the bigger bargain for sure. So I

1796
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: don't know. You gotta like your guy, that's for sure.

1797
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: I do like our guy, and I like the I

1798
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: think the bills, like the position you're in. And Tredavious

1799
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: will get his money a year or two away, right,

1800
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe the eighth year, eighth year, Trevius will get paid,

1801
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: there's no question. But now today would you rather have

1802
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: he might get more than that deal. Yeah, you know,

1803
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: in a couple of years here, a couple of years.

1804
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: And it's we've said this too, and one of the

1805
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: interesting things we were talking about this morning. That's that's

1806
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: food for thought. Later in the year. And also we

1807
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: can mention it today, but it's gonna go on and on.

1808
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: We have yet to see this coaching staff and this

1809
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: general manager in this regime isn't have to come up,

1810
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: kick up and pay one of their own. You know

1811
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Who's gonna hit the home run contract?

1812
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: There's somebody's going to Is it gonna be? Is it

1813
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna be Josh Allen's gonna be? Uh uh? Devin Singletary

1814
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: Tredavious is certainly the first guy you're looking at going

1815
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: in line, and he's the guy they drafted that and

1816
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna be their guy. What's that gonna look like?

1817
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 1: What are that? What's that deal gonna look like? When's

1818
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 1: it gonna happen? Is a better question. Is it gonna

1819
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: happen after this next year? After this year? Are they

1820
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: gonna Are they gonna franchise him? Are they gonna, you know,

1821
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: extend them as long as they can at the bargain price?

1822
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, how do they treat him? Because

1823
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Brandon being is in and I've said it before the

1824
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 1: most interesting thing about that entire embedded series that the

1825
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: Bill's production arm put out is Brandon being sitting there

1826
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: at the draft table going, hey, guys are gonna look

1827
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: at who and see who we pay. They're gonna put

1828
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot of thought into not only how much they

1829
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: pay a guy like Tredavious, but why then who gets

1830
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: the money? And we haven't seen this guy, this coaching

1831
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: staff for this gym have to do that yet. And

1832
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: it's you can see it coming down there down the track, right,

1833
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna be That's a real topic of

1834
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: interesting conversation. And what's it gonna take Turdavius? You know

1835
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 1: what's Turdavious got in this game? Right? How you know

1836
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: what's what are his thoughts about it? Thumbs up? Thumbs Now,

1837
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: he's gotta love being here. I think he loves it here.

1838
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: That's a great atmosphere and a great team to play on.

1839
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: So but the money will matter in a couple of years.

1840
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: It should, it should, I mean, goodness, gracious, you're talking.

1841
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: You're talking life changing deals here, so you gotta when

1842
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: it's your life. Yeah, that makes a big difference. There's

1843
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: an interesting response from we didn't get we don't get

1844
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: deep into contract to tails, but yesterday with Jordan was

1845
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: that yesterday Jordan Phillips after prect Yes yesterday, and I

1846
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: asked him, certainly, money's gonna be He's on a one

1847
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: year deal, so he's gonna renegotiate a new deal after

1848
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 1: this season. A said, certainly money will be a, if

1849
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: not the most deciding factor. But oh no. I asked

1850
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: him the question this way. People say that because you're

1851
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: on a contract here, that's why you're playing so well.

1852
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:44,799
Speaker 1: But there's more to it than that, and he agreed

1853
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: with that. And I really believe that it's it's what's

1854
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, what's going on around you, How are guys

1855
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: playing around you? How are you motivated to play? It's

1856
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: not just money, I think. And yeah, it's easy to say, wow,

1857
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips plays his way because he's on a contract here.

1858
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: I think there's more to it than that for him

1859
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: at least and probably next year for Trudavious as well. Yeah.

1860
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Self admittedly, he said there is more to it. And

1861
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: I think this atmosphere and culture they put in is

1862
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: a little bit laden with accountability players in the locker room,

1863
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: older players, younger players, good players who are playing well?

1864
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: Are you know looking at these guys are gonna listen

1865
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: you gotta pick it up, let's go. And I think

1866
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: there's a real sense of holding each other, the players accountable.

1867
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: I know you're making big money, or I know you're

1868
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: in you know you come on, you gotta step it up.

1869
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,719
Speaker 1: And I also think there's this too. This coaching staff

1870
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: will sit guys down, yeah, for a no ol apparent reason,

1871
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: or they're snap they don't. If they don't sit them down,

1872
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: their snap counts drop. We've seen that happen without rhyme

1873
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: or reason at certain times during the season. Some of

1874
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 1: it's probably game plan, but there's some of it that's

1875
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: probably message. And I think that goes a long way

1876
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: as well. And I know that too that you've seen

1877
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: this too. You'll be out there and you walk through

1878
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, the practice, and you're you seen to the

1879
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: individual drill or whatever, and a head coach is over

1880
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: having a conversation with one of the players, like, wow,

1881
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're talking about. You know, there'll be

1882
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: a guy who's a backup or a guy that's off

1883
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: the radar for most people and here having a serious conversation.

1884
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: I remember Sean McDermott had a serious conversation like that

1885
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: with Russ Bodine starting center from a year ago during

1886
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: the preseason, and he knew what that was about. They

1887
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 1: had a ton offensive lineman in and you had to

1888
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: earn your spot this year. And even though he signed

1889
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 1: a nice free agent deal, he's standing there going well,

1890
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: and he's like, you gotta play good. I don't care

1891
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: what we're paying you, right right. I mean, that's a

1892
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: conversation that they have in this building. So I there's

1893
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: a lot to that when guys who you say are

1894
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: playing better or better, some guys are motivated by different things.

1895
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's all contract oriented for some

1896
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 1: of these players who are in a contract year and

1897
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:55,839
Speaker 1: they have that kind of DNA that is so difficult

1898
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: to find sometimes. Hey, Bill Shan's getting ready for the

1899
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: w GR Celebrity roastive Eric Wood. Tickets on sale now

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1901
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Speaker 1: one of the roasters, and a lot more to come.

1902
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Get your tickets now. They're gonna go fast. The w

1903
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Speaker 1: GR Radio Celebrity Roast of Eric Wood Thursday in February

1904
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: twenty seventh at Buffalo Riverworks. Tickets details at WGRFI fifty

1905
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: dot Com Lorenzo Alexander. When we returned, John Murphy receive

1906
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: Tasker one Bill's Live presented by Galata Health from the

1907
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. This is Buffalo Bills Radio

1908
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Radio Networks Stories update from One Bill's Drive. Practice has

1909
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: completed itself for the Bills at the Edpro Sports Training Center.

1910
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 1: Walk through it tomorrow morning, then leaving the afternoon for

1911
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: New England. Bills Patriots coming up Saturday afternoon. The Patriots

1912
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: looking for a thirteenth season of at least twelve wins

1913
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: at would tide Dallas in San Francisco for the most

1914
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Buffalo hasn't at twelve win season since

1915
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, and they need to win the final

1916
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: three games to break that street. The injury report not

1917
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: yet out for today. The one name to keep an

1918
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: eye on it would seem as Corey Legiitt limited the

1919
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: first two days of practice this week with a knee.

1920
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Keep an eye out on the Patriots practice report. Nickel

1921
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: corner Jonathan Jones at not practice Tuesday and Wednesday and

1922
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: not spouted at practice today. He is expected to be

1923
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,879
Speaker 1: ruled out on Saturday. He is their slot corner Defensive

1924
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Player of the Year honors this year could go to

1925
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: Patriots cornerback Stefan Gilmore. He says, there's no question. My

1926
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: play speaks for itself. It says, if you really watch

1927
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the tape in every game, it's no question he's the

1928
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year. Bill's Patriots broadcast on our

1929
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: flagship radio station Saturday, w g R Sports Radio five fifty.

1930
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: I'll be in the broadcast booth with Eric Wood. Salcapachu

1931
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: will be on the sidelines. There's no question for Brian Flora,

1932
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: as a coach of the Dolphins about going with quarterback

1933
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick instead of Josh Rosen in the Dolphins game

1934
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: this week. Laura says people can say you should do

1935
01:34:58,439 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: this or do that, but he says they're trying to win.

1936
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: He says he looks at his players and tells him

1937
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: he's doing everything he can to get his team of victory.

1938
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: So Fitzpatrick, he believes, gives Miami the best chance of

1939
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: a win. There was some sentiment that maybe Josh Rosen

1940
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: should play. Jaguar's owner shot con Fight Executive Vice president

1941
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 1: of Football Ops Tom Coughlin last night, two days after

1942
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: the NFL players Association Warren players of signing with the

1943
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: franchise because of excessive finds and player grievances. Vikings running

1944
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: Mcdalvin Cook unlikely to play on their showdown with Green

1945
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Bay Monday night. He's got a shoulder injuries. They're leading

1946
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Rusher with eleven hundred yards and Sabers Hockey tonight. The

1947
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: Sabers face the Flyers tonight seven o'clock. Face up. Jack

1948
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: I Gull trying to keep his point streak alive. He's

1949
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 1: got points in seventeen consecutive games. And that is the

1950
01:35:42,439 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: sports update. That's right. It's alone down with Lorenzo Alexander

1951
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: joining us this week on Thursday rather than the normal

1952
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 1: Friday because of the uh the short and week. The

1953
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 1: Lowdown brought to you by Hutch's Redefining City Dining, John

1954
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: Murphy Steeve Tasker, Lorenzo, thanks coming by, Lorenzo you always

1955
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, I enjoy coming to hang out with you guys.

1956
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Thank you this short weekendy. What's the difference between this

1957
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Thursday and last Friday? Yes, question right, Yes, Thursday instead

1958
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: of Friday. So my body knows this Thursday. But now

1959
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: I think we're good. Um, we still got the a

1960
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: complete week of preparation on like a Thursday night game,

1961
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: where it's pretty much, you know, you come in Monday

1962
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: time in this game time, we still got a you know,

1963
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 1: a full week of practice all of our reps, so

1964
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: I know we're mentally prepared, and then physically we have

1965
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: a young team, so we'll be okay as well. And

1966
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: there's no underestimating or overestimating the fact that you get

1967
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: into this rhythm, and particularly the beginning of the season,

1968
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: except for the Thanksgiving game, every game was a one

1969
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 1: o'clock on Sunday afternoon. When you start messing with that,

1970
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, and I can tell big time

1971
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: as far as playing at one versus eight o'clock at night.

1972
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: You know, for me, it's a it's a big swing,

1973
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: and it's it throws my routine completely out of whack.

1974
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 1: And so the only way you can really even prepare

1975
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: for it is actually playing those games. So obviously we

1976
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: had one last week. We have a four to thirty

1977
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: game this week. I think we played at four thirty

1978
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: on that Thursday, So my body start kind of understanding

1979
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: what's going on. And then you know, the playoffs, who

1980
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: knows what time will play how depending on the matchup

1981
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: and how that works. It's gonna ask you. You and

1982
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,759
Speaker 1: I know this now in your years here in Buffalo,

1983
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: you are as tuned into how you feel and what

1984
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: you need to get ready and more than any player

1985
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, Right, yeah, it matters. I mean I

1986
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: think when I feel great, I play great because I'm

1987
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 1: not thinking about it. And if I don't feel well,

1988
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what can I do to

1989
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 1: get me to feel well by game time so I

1990
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: can go out there and play well. And so, you know,

1991
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: I think the older you get, you know, you just

1992
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 1: you learn your body. You understand you know and downs,

1993
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: you know when the panic, when not to panic, and

1994
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: so I just try to, you know, be very um,

1995
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: just pay special attention so that I can be prepared

1996
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: on saying. Steve and I were talking about this actually

1997
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: this morning, about how healthy this team has been in general,

1998
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,760
Speaker 1: right yeah. And I think there's an opinion in the

1999
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: building anyway that one of the reasons is because you

2000
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: guys are tuned in, not just you, the entire team

2001
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 1: is kind of tuned into what you need to get

2002
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: ready to play and avoid injury. Yeah, and I think

2003
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL over a whole is moving

2004
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 1: towards just being smart instead of and I call it

2005
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: dumbtuf just go out there and grind and work without

2006
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: any rhyme or reason to it. And our organization, I

2007
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 1: think it's probably heads and shoulders above the rest of

2008
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: the league, you know, as far as with the sports

2009
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: science department or trainers, and then having a head coach

2010
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: and actually listens and incorporates that. And how we practice,

2011
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: how we rest guys m is key from top to bottom.

2012
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: And obviously we are seeing some fruits of that with

2013
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: having limited guys injured or even on I are at

2014
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 1: this point in the year. And one of the things

2015
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: about these these funky game they games to eight o'clock

2016
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: or eight thirty at night game yea, how do you handle?

2017
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean, experience is the best teacher right through it.

2018
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: And but what is it just as simple as saying, okay,

2019
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I usually do this. Now do I do the same thing,

2020
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: except for eight hours later in the day you try

2021
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: to bump things back. You also got to make yourself

2022
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: even get up because the tendency is, you know, just

2023
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: for guys you're just trying to look you don't have

2024
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: kids or anybody around, so you just want to kind

2025
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: of lay around all day. But if you get too

2026
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: much sleep or lay around, you can also be lethargic.

2027
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: So just trying to come up with a routine that

2028
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: works best for you. And since we don't do it

2029
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: all the time, it's kind of hard to kind of

2030
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: figure out what that is when you're doing a limited

2031
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: amount of times. But obviously this year, with the success,

2032
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: we've had two or three games now that are outside

2033
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: of the scope of the one o'clock games, and so,

2034
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of developed something. I know probably

2035
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: some of the other guys really don't care because they're

2036
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: young and they feel great all the time. You know,

2037
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to. But I tell you, the hardest

2038
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: thing about playing a late game is, especially if you're

2039
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: on the road, it's getting back and you don't get

2040
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: to sleep until like two o'clock, and he's still kind

2041
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: of wire. So it was four o'clock, and then that

2042
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: next day, Wednesday can easily turn our Monday can turn

2043
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: that Tuesday where you'll sleep is just kind of all

2044
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 1: thrown off. And so that's probably the most difficult part

2045
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 1: about playing the eight o'clock game. We had Jordan Phillips

2046
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 1: on on Monday, I think, and did he didn't even sleep.

2047
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: He showed up when in got treat. You know, he

2048
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: just started his day right. And I know this too

2049
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: that in my experience with overnight travel and all of

2050
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 1: that stuff, you'll you'll gotta like, if you get back

2051
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: on four am on a Sunday night and stay up,

2052
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: you'll be okay through Monday. Yeah, I'll tell you what

2053
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: Tuesday hits You hit you in the face. Oh my god,

2054
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: you want to just yeah, you want to do something different, right,

2055
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we saw with the schedule change.

2056
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a kind of a light instead

2057
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 1: of a hard day Tuesday after day off of money.

2058
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: And that just goes to show you how much Shin

2059
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: has grown. Our first year, we probably would have had

2060
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 1: a regular day of practice on that Tuesday. But I

2061
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: think he's grown. He's seen the fruits in the benefits

2062
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: of incorporating with the sports science and with the athletic

2063
01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: trainers and what our gps are saying, just to make

2064
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: sure that you're fresh, especially with us knowing that we're

2065
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: in a playoff now, having a mind of making sure

2066
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:06,879
Speaker 1: that we obviously we want to prepare for the Patriots

2067
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: and we have the jet next week, but making sure

2068
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 1: that we hit this thing and be at full tilt

2069
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: and feel like we had one hundred percent late in

2070
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 1: the year with Lorenzo Alexander, Bill's linebacker a couple of

2071
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: days before the Bills traveled to New England or playing

2072
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,880
Speaker 1: New England in Foxborough. We saw you on our favorite

2073
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,559
Speaker 1: show today. You were on Good Morning Football on NFL Network,

2074
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: and we love that show. And Eric Michael Robinson, right, yeah, yeah,

2075
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: we go way back. Yeah, I played against it when

2076
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: he's in Seattle for all those years and just a

2077
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: great dude, good special teamers was a former quarterback. He

2078
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: said something that kind of stuck with me, or at

2079
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 1: least he got my intention about this matchup Saturday, Bills

2080
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: and Patriots. He said, and looking back to Week four,

2081
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 1: the lawsuer, he said, the Bills are better than they

2082
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,720
Speaker 1: were in Week four. The Patriots are not as good

2083
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 1: as they were in Week four. You buy that, Yeah,

2084
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean probably if you look at the way we're

2085
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 1: winning and how we're playing. I mean, I guess you

2086
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: can maybe make that assessment, you know, outside looking in,

2087
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: But this is a championship caliber football team. There's a

2088
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: reason why they have won this division for the last

2089
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, decade and a half, because it only

2090
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: ten it feels like fifteen or twenty in a row

2091
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: in a row. Exactly, there's a reason why. And so

2092
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 1: you can say and and and we've had this conversation before.

2093
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: It might have been a couple of years. I started

2094
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: to see some weak weakness show up in this Patriots

2095
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 1: and they win the Super Bowl. So yeah, people can

2096
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: feel that way if they want to. But I've been

2097
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: around long enough, I compete against Tom Brady and this

2098
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: Belichick coach team enough to understand that when things are

2099
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 1: on the line and they need to win and they

2100
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: want to position themselves or they need to get things going,

2101
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: they get things going. And so we're gonna have to

2102
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: come out there with our a game and expect to

2103
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: get their best. Yeah. I agree with you there. You

2104
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: can sit back and everybody's like sticking forks in them.

2105
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: They're eleven and three. Yeah, yeah, they find a way

2106
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: to win. And I said, and Tom, they're saying that

2107
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's he's not playing as well. Even our Twitter

2108
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: polish years questioning you know, how right, And they're saying, hey,

2109
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: all this, you know what, they're eleven and three And

2110
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: I told Murph this, Tom Brady, go one for twenty

2111
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: seven and throw a multiple picks and they beat your

2112
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 1: sixty three. He still gets to win exactly exact in

2113
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:08,560
Speaker 1: his pile, right, and that's what And that's all that

2114
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: matters at the end of the day. And if you

2115
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: ask kid, and that's all that matters. He really is

2116
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: he probably at this point and care less about his stats.

2117
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: He's already enshrined, is one of the greatest quarterbacks of

2118
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,799
Speaker 1: all time. He just trying to stat championships and wins,

2119
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: and so however he gets them, he gets them, you

2120
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 1: know so, and we have to be repairing. That's one

2121
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: of the reasons why we got to be ready for

2122
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: just really stopping Sony Michelle initially and trying to make

2123
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: it a one dimensional game. Question for you about Brady

2124
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: and not about Brady in history and all these times,

2125
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 1: because you have to acknowledge its right right now, Tom Brady,

2126
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: what challenge does he present? What does he do best?

2127
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 1: The same challenges he's always presented. He's the same guy.

2128
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: I think people get caught up in what has he

2129
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: done lately, and some of the struggles and guys are

2130
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna up and down. He is older, and he maybe

2131
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: hagging some things I know edem and is banged up

2132
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, so they're not hitting on all cylinders.

2133
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: But like I said, this team to get hut to

2134
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: any second. I've been here, I've heard this story over

2135
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,719
Speaker 1: and over and over, and he comes out and plays

2136
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: when things are on the line. He's a championship caliber player.

2137
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,799
Speaker 1: So I don't want people's eyes to fool them about

2138
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: who who they really are at the heart of things. Yeah,

2139
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: we're a good football team too, and we have a

2140
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: great chance of beating them because we we're a good

2141
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 1: football team. But we can't go in there thinking a

2142
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: world Tom is not playing good. Um, we might have okay,

2143
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: we might be able to take a fence. Now we're

2144
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna get this a game. And their defense is really

2145
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: good too. The defense hasn't off at all. Their defense

2146
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: ain't years. This is a good, great football team, just

2147
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: based on the pedigree, because at any time they can

2148
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:43,919
Speaker 1: get things figured out and get hitting on all cylinders.

2149
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not going to get caught up

2150
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: in They don't look like the Patriots of Vold because

2151
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: I've heard this story many of times, and they figure

2152
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: out ways to win championships when they look like they're

2153
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: on their way out right. I agree with what he said. Yeah,

2154
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: and of course yeah, I'm going Then you mentioned fifty

2155
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: six percent. Of course fifty six percent because most of

2156
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: the people that are checking that polar Bills fans and

2157
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 1: they want they want to believe it too, and I

2158
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: get it. I haven't seen the poll in a minute

2159
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: or two. But we asked the question, did the Patriots

2160
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's a legitimate question. Did the

2161
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Patriots have a Tom Brady problem? Do they? I mean

2162
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: they you said that a couple of years ago, and they,

2163
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean they won a championship. I remember having this

2164
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: conversation with you, Murph. I said, yes, Oh, I think

2165
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: they don't look that good. They don't look that I

2166
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: don't look that good. And they win a championship, Murph,

2167
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: it's all about mine said, they didn't. They ugly win, right,

2168
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: and they got a lot of them. You can't go

2169
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: in there thinking that they're not the Patriots of a

2170
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,719
Speaker 1: championship caliber team. Well, I asked this question when Thurmin

2171
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: was out here players, former players and current players. How

2172
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: do you walk that line between respecting an opponent opponent

2173
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 1: as you should, yeah, and thinking, hey, we can beat

2174
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 1: him though every time I walk that, I mean, I

2175
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 1: do that every time I go out. But I'm not

2176
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 1: going to underestimate him based on what he may have

2177
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: done the last couple of games or the last couple

2178
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: of weeks and say, well, he doesn't have it anymore.

2179
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: But every time I said I could, they could be

2180
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: fifteen and old and I step on that field. I

2181
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: respect what he's gonna do, but I'm gonna go out

2182
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 1: there and try to win this game. There's a country

2183
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 1: song and it says I'm not as good as I

2184
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: once was, but I can be as good once as

2185
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I ever want. Yeah that's Tom Brady. Yeah, that guy's

2186
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: gonna come up and flip a switch and somebody, a

2187
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: couple of guys will make plays and all of a sudden,

2188
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: you know he's you know, he's going, let's go in

2189
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. Right, So yeah, it

2190
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: could happen. I agree. Grenzo was with us for a

2191
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: few more minutes here. Incredibly, I've heard people suggest that

2192
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: the Bills at this point and with a chance still

2193
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: to win the division, the bill should think about resting

2194
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 1: players for the playoffs. I can't believe anybody would would

2195
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: consider that, you guys at right, Yeah, I mean it's

2196
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: hard to rest players. I mean you can depending on

2197
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: where you're at. I mean maybe the last game you

2198
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 1: can be strategic about maybe older players or guys that

2199
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: maybe dealing with some knicks and bruises. But you never

2200
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 1: can get a because you never want to get them

2201
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: out of their routine and get them out of maybe

2202
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: playing really well. Um or trying to protect guys because

2203
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: you want to try to win every game. And obviously

2204
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: we're in a position things could fall our way and

2205
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 1: we could find our way in having a first round

2206
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: by still at this point, um, just I think if

2207
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 1: we went out, the Patriots lose and then h KC loses,

2208
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 1: we could get in. I mean, obviously that's a lot

2209
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 1: of stuff that can happen. But it had it happened

2210
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: that when we win the playoffs two years ago it

2211
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 1: was nine to seven. You know, a whole bunch of

2212
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: stuff had to happen, and it happened. So who says

2213
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 1: it can't happen in this way? So? Um, but I

2214
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 1: know as as a football coach. As a head coach,

2215
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 1: you obviously you want to be prepared to win this

2216
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: game the next game and obviously go in at full

2217
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: stress for the playoffs. So maybe depend on what happens

2218
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: this weekend. You make that decision once the situation presents itself, right,

2219
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree that you're in it to win,

2220
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: and and there's only so much you can do by

2221
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: resting guys guys right right, yeah, yeah, you're gonna have

2222
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: like you can't have just twenty two guys play all

2223
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty players. That's why maybe three one

2224
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: or two guy. Yeah, they stow on their injury health

2225
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: and what's going on. You can rotate a little faster.

2226
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so those guys play special teams.

2227
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: The only way you can rest is if you are

2228
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 1: in street clothes. Yeah, otherwise you gotta play you right here.

2229
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl came out a couple of nights ago. Going

2230
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 1: in your thoughts on that and anybody who you thought

2231
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 1: should have had strong well obviously, I mean your Davis

2232
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: was was a no brainer. And I know we talked

2233
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 1: about Stephan Gilmore when we opened up. I mean, you

2234
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: could put Davis in that same brass. As far as

2235
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 1: being if it's the play the gear, if you look

2236
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: at what he's done, he is. I don't think he

2237
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, but as far as being locked down,

2238
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: the interceptions and the game changing plays when he's made

2239
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,560
Speaker 1: him he's he's up there too. He could be in

2240
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: the conversation. Um, obviously, Jordan Phillips not getting in is

2241
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean, I mean, the guy had seven

2242
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: and a half sacks and now he has nine and

2243
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: a half. Obviously that happened after the voting, but for

2244
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: god that has that has played at the level he's

2245
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: played that for the majority of the year. And I

2246
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: know he wasn't a starter, but this dude should definitely

2247
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 1: be in. Obviously, Michael Hyde not getting any recognition the

2248
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer and I think I think sometimes they may

2249
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 1: hurt themselves because how good they play together, people don't

2250
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: think they're good individually differentiating them and I think that's

2251
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: an issue. M and then obviously Tremaine was right there.

2252
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: That's so kudos to him in his second year because

2253
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be, you know, the standard. Um.

2254
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: It's funny though, when you watch how teams around the

2255
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: league move guys out of certain positions because the guy

2256
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: that got in in front of him last year was

2257
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 1: an outside backer and then this year they moved to

2258
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: inside backers, so he doesn't have to compete with three

2259
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 1: four defensive ends m and so that kind of hurt

2260
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 1: him a little bit, or I think he would have

2261
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: got in this outright UM. But I think they need

2262
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 1: to probably open up a new position too, like an

2263
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: edge like they do for All Pro. Now they have

2264
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: an edge like for the three four guys that are

2265
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: outside backers, but they're really defensive ends to allow guys

2266
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: like a Matt Malonna, like a Matt Milanna will never

2267
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: get in because the guys that normally get voted in

2268
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,520
Speaker 1: are like Pittsburgh Steelers Ravens outside backers that are predominantly

2269
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: rushers defensive end. So I think there's ways we can

2270
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: improve it to get guys in. UM. But at the

2271
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, we should have had

2272
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: a few more guys in being tended four. I think

2273
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I only got one guy in last year when we

2274
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: were six and ten, and being a you know, as

2275
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: plus having a top what are we top three defense,

2276
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 1: there should have been a few more guys on that

2277
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: got two guys in. Yeah see yeah right so defensively

2278
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: so right, And you mentioned tremin Edmunds, who I just

2279
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: gotta set to Steve yesterday. I think if this season

2280
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: were a couple of games longer, he'd be in. I mean,

2281
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: his level of improvement from September to now has been amazing,

2282
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: leaps down, and it's going to continue to get better

2283
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 1: because the dude when you sit in meetings, well you know,

2284
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there listening to him talk with our coaches

2285
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: and how he just knows what all the checks are

2286
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 1: with the calls are up, um, what his reads are.

2287
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's grown um enormously since just the beginning

2288
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: of this year, and even from week to week. I

2289
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: can just see the improvement in the confidence and when

2290
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: you when you're playing like that and you understand what

2291
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: guys are attacking you, his athleticism just shines bright and

2292
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 1: shines through and you can see the way he's gonna

2293
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: run around hitting folks. All right. The lowdown will Rundo

2294
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: Alexander some of his keys to Saturday's game against the

2295
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Your first lowdown has to do with

2296
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the mental aspect with you. Yeah, just the mindset and

2297
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: I think this is huge. Um. You know, anytime that

2298
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 1: you play you know, Tom Brady and the New England Patriots,

2299
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: you can't get so enamored with who they are and

2300
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: what they've done over the years that it cripples you

2301
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: from doing your job. So looking at Tom Brady all

2302
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: the time like wow, you know, just win your matchups.

2303
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: So and then also not getting mentally hijacked. You know,

2304
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: obviously there's always controversy about calls and what the rest

2305
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 1: are gonna do this expect not to get anything because

2306
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: you don't want to you know, your folks to turn

2307
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: to the rest and you arguing with them and they're

2308
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,679
Speaker 1: getting back on the ball and running the next play

2309
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 1: and then you you end up having a mental error

2310
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 1: or something like that. So just having to understand of

2311
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 1: where we're going, where we're about to encounter and this,

2312
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 1: have the mental focus to understand that everything is not

2313
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 1: going to go away. Probably not aware at all, just

2314
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,600
Speaker 1: from that perspective in history its Patriots, Well you know that. Yeah, officiating,

2315
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: come on, I'm not I'm not saying I'm not. Just

2316
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: don't expect calls right this good calls I mean, it

2317
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's not a secret. Is it

2318
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: a secret? Murph? I don't like to acknowledge it? Oh

2319
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: you don't, Okay, Well it happens, I mean, so you

2320
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: need to acknowledge it so that when it happens, you're

2321
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: not like, oh man, what is going on? So we're

2322
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: acknowledging it so we don't feed into it from a

2323
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: mental standpoint. So when they overturned that Calvin Benjamin touchdown

2324
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, you were thinking that that's

2325
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 1: what happened. That's that's about what happens. I can't allow

2326
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: that to hijack my next two series. You're living at

2327
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 1: an altar universe right now. You just come back over here.

2328
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: What happens? You know? Hey, you can't. You just can't

2329
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: get into it. And then you know, and then also

2330
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: get caught up into the hype of of not hype

2331
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 1: because they've they've earned everything of who they are over

2332
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: the last you know, ten years. This Patriot Week always

2333
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of uncovers her true personalities about over there. I

2334
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: think it does right right anyway, Load down number two,

2335
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: low down number two, Red zone. Yeah, we have to

2336
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: win this area on both sides. Of the ball. Um.

2337
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I think this game is similar to you know what

2338
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 1: we've faced the last two weeks. We've played great defenses

2339
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: from our offensive standpoints, so when we get down there,

2340
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: we have to convert into touchdowns. We can't settle for

2341
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,600
Speaker 1: field goals. Um. And obviously, you know we think that

2342
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: Time is not playing as well as he is according

2343
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: to you. But at any time he can, he can

2344
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: put twenty eight thirty five points up on you, and

2345
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: so we need to score points to put that additional

2346
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 1: pressure on them to feel like they need to execute

2347
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: more at a high level than obviously. What we've done

2348
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: in the past that has kept the games close is

2349
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 1: make them kick field goals or even take the ball away.

2350
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: And we saw Michael Hyde have a great interception in

2351
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: the red zone versus Tom Brady last time we played them,

2352
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: and it kept the game closer and still gave our

2353
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: offense an opportunity in our team to win the game. Yeah,

2354
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 1: that's you're right. Red zone efficiency and points once again,

2355
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 1: with two defenses like her playing in this game, top

2356
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: three defenses in the league, points, you're gonna mean more. Yeah,

2357
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,759
Speaker 1: it's he gonna take every opportunity to get them exactly.

2358
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 1: What about low down number three? Play smart football? Yeah,

2359
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just another kind of like a historic

2360
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 1: thing when you play this team, team find a way

2361
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: to beat themselves for whatever reason that the Patris are

2362
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:21,799
Speaker 1: known just to out out execute you in all phases

2363
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: office defensive special teams. Last time we played them, we

2364
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: gave up a pump block just not executing properly. They

2365
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: blocking and score a touchdown. I mean, and so you

2366
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: cannot do those things versus an elite team, and I

2367
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: think when you start when and I think that's probably

2368
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: one of our things that we haven't done consisting it

2369
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: through the years. Play smart, no penalties, you know, that

2370
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: protecting the ball note and that having bad turnovers you know,

2371
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: late in the game, game on the line, or backed

2372
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: up when they give to give the ball to them

2373
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Those are the things that we

2374
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 1: probably have to step up another notch if we want

2375
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: to make a run in the playoffs, because we're gonna

2376
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: start playing obviously the elite of the elite, and the

2377
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: margin of error gets a lot small. Hey, last weekend

2378
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 1: you're here, we talked about your nomination fifth time in

2379
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: your career for the Walter Payton Man of the Year

2380
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: and it's been filling up Twitter since then. My mom

2381
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: most of you. Yeah, yeah, she's killing it every day.

2382
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: Great video though, up about your nomination for the Walter

2383
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: Peyton Man of the Year. Use hashtag w p m

2384
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: y Alexander on Twitter. But the video was great showing

2385
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: how much of an impact it had on South Park

2386
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: and many other police places here in the community. It's

2387
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: pretty good. This isn't all out assault on the Walter

2388
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Man of the Year award. I think you're gonna win. Yeh.

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01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: It's great. It's great. You know, it's to be like

2390
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Zoe video. So it was really cool. Yeah, I mean

2391
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: I almost kind of brought me to chairs, especially when

2392
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I see my kids in the video and people that

2393
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 1: I've had a chance to impact. But last night, because

2394
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 1: I am the Bills nominee for Walter Payton Man of

2395
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: the Year, I got a chance to give out two

2396
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl tickets to a local m I call him

2397
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: a local hero hero, Bob Simmons. He coaches, he volunteers.

2398
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: He's a police officer that now has transitioned into like

2399
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 1: the school school us UM. But he he does everything.

2400
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he volunteers, little League baseball, little league soccer,

2401
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: flag football, but every every possible thing. He has two

2402
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: kids he coaches, the older son and the younger son's teams.

2403
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've known him for the last four years

2404
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: and his heart is for raising up this young people

2405
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 1: and really giving back. And so it was really a

2406
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: cool honor to to pass those tickets on and this

2407
01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: show my appreciation for what he does in the community,

2408
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: because he's a great representative of what Buffalo was all about. Uh,

2409
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of almost broke down in tears

2410
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 1: a little bit. He was just surprised he was shot

2411
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: because he was like, even when I was talking about

2412
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 1: giving out the award, he didn't even think it was him.

2413
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: He thought it was gonna be one of the other

2414
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 1: coaches that was out there. That's just the type of

2415
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: guy he's is. And Bob Simmons, you know, if you

2416
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,640
Speaker 1: know him, tell him thank you. He's just a great

2417
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 1: a great dude. Hashtag w P my Alexander. If you

2418
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: want to help Lorenzo and his quest to be the

2419
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year Charity Challenge winner, Good

2420
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 1: Luck Saturday, appreciate one piece, play well, play smart, Thanks, Yeah,

2421
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: all those things Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Lorenzo, I

2422
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: like Danderver the Lowdown, brought you by Hutch's Redefining City Dining.

2423
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 1: We're back with more Steve and I One Bill's Life,

2424
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: presented by Klada Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio Our Joe,

2425
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: I will not be here. Steve will be here. You're

2426
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: stuck with Steve and Maddie. Glad. That'll be good. That'll

2427
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: be an upgrade for you. Maddie won't challenge you. Maddie won't.

2428
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: You won't be able to give Maddie the dirty looks

2429
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 1: you give me when she says she won't shoot a

2430
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: warning shot across the bow of the defending world champions

2431
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: before we play them on side shooting. I'm asking a

2432
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: question I can't answer. I can't ask a question. I

2433
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: can't say that a question is not insightful, not insightful, inciting, inciting.

2434
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm inciting one am I saying I think you overrate

2435
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: who was paying attention to this show. We got people

2436
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 1: in the bill I mean those people listener. They don't

2437
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 1: even know who's people in the building, don't even know

2438
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: what we do. Right. They look at us, say who

2439
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: are those two? Why are you guys doing, what are

2440
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 1: you doing? You? Let's do anything? Well, here's a Twitter

2441
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 1: pole that has caused a rift between my partner and I,

2442
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: a bit of a rift. And it's a question. It's

2443
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: not a look, there's a question mark on this Twitter pole.

2444
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 1: There's a declaration inside that question. I disagree. No, you

2445
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: can't infer that you what do you mean you can

2446
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 1: for that? You're it's a legitimate question when you look

2447
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 1: at the way the guy has played, and you look

2448
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: at the numbers and they've dropped off in the last

2449
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: five weeks. Question with a question mark, do the Patriots

2450
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: have a Tom Brady problem? That is our Twitter pole?

2451
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: Eleven hundred votes in and someone must think so. In fact,

2452
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 1: fifty four percent of the respondents think so. Twenty six

2453
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: percent say WHOA, WHOA? Not yet, slow down? I get that.

2454
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 1: One twenty percent say no, what do you think? Give

2455
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: us a call eight h three five fifty toll free

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01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We've

2457
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 1: got tweets coming in. We'll read it on the tweet sheet,

2458
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: but for now, let's take a call. I think Andy

2459
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: and James sounds still waiting on the line. Are you there, Andy? Hey,

2460
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm here, guys. Thanks for waiting, Andy, you're on the

2461
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: air of this. I'd drove for Marie to Jamestown, had lunch.

2462
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get to answer this

2463
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 1: call on Monday. Wow. Thanks, you're waiting that long, Andy,

2464
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: That is amazing. We thought you were doing something else

2465
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: at home that made you wait for an hour and

2466
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: fifty minutes. That's amazing. Oh no, no, listen, it was

2467
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: worth while. But I gotta tell you, first of all,

2468
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 1: it's Christmas. It's Christmas, guys, Peace on earth. Goodwill tall Man.

2469
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Hate to see you guys in a rift. No, it's

2470
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: no rift. It's not good. It's a minor. If if I,

2471
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 1: if I could just suggest it, maybe an editorial, a

2472
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: board could have come in on this question and maybe

2473
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: rephrased it. And my thought was, is there a problem

2474
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 1: with the offense of New England? And might it be

2475
01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: number one? Could it be the offensive line, could it

2476
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: be those receivers, could it be some injuries or could

2477
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: it be Tom Brady? And and it kind of spreads

2478
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, that's a good point. U. That's a

2479
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah. I mean I agree with you, Andy.

2480
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Tom Brady problem as much

2481
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:08,680
Speaker 1: as I think it's a personnel problem around Tom Brady,

2482
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's a much different group of characters that

2483
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past. It's hard, I think, for

2484
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: young players like nikkil Harry to come in and contribute

2485
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 1: right away. It's a very complex offense. It's a it's

2486
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: an entrenched culture and they've got a lot of layers

2487
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: of preparation that you've got to be up on, and

2488
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 1: it takes time for guys to get acclimated to the

2489
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: way the Patriots do business as opposed to what they've

2490
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 1: done their whole careers or whatever wherever else they have

2491
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,320
Speaker 1: been when certainly for a young player who's never been

2492
02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: exposed to pro football, let alone the Patriot way of

2493
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 1: doing things, it takes a long time to acclimate. So

2494
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 1: you've got a young guy like nikkil Harry who may

2495
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 1: be really gifted. Certainly the Patriots think he probably is.

2496
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: They took him in the first round, who it's going

2497
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: to take time for him to get there, plus all

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Speaker 1: the efforts that they put into They'd had Antonio Brown

2499
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 1: on the roster, they had Josh Gordon on the roster.

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02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Now Julian Edelman is nicked up and can't play it

2501
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Although you'll probably go this week and

2502
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 1: play very well. You know, they've got some things and

2503
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 1: they're probably and their offensive line has had issues their

2504
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: first round draft picking. Their left tackle has been out

2505
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 1: of the lineup and into the lineup and out of

2506
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 1: the lineup. Now the right tackle is get hurt. So

2507
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of problems going on around Tom

2508
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 1: Brady that could point to an inefficient year as a quarterback.

2509
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Whether that comes down to Tom Brady being forty two

2510
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: years old, or whether him being forty two years old

2511
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 1: is the only thing that is keeping that offense from

2512
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: completely going under. You can make that argument as well.

2513
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 1: Because can I make another thought, just a couple more

2514
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: quick thoughts. I don't think it's going to help the situation,

2515
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: the fact that Breeze goes off and throws five hundred

2516
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 1: and forty one now and Brady's right behind him at

2517
02:01:57,600 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: five thirty eight. You don't think Brady's not chopping a

2518
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 1: bit to saying, hey, I'm going to beat that guy

2519
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll do it this weekend. Yeah, somebody mentioned that,

2520
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 1: no question, And if I could go to one more thing,

2521
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 1: and then I'll let you guys go back. I have

2522
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 1: to mention something. Well, you've been waiting so long. We

2523
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 1: feel an obligation, Andy, great, thank you. Listen. What a

2524
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 1: great coach we got in McDermott. And when I say this,

2525
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: we don't like Belichick, I know, but you know there's

2526
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:27,839
Speaker 1: a similarity there in respects And this is it. Landry

2527
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: from Cleveland goes off and gets in Freddie Kitchener's face

2528
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 1: last weekend, and how and he and he put up

2529
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: with it? And how do you ever think that anybody

2530
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 1: would ever be able to do that to McDermott. Where

2531
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: would that guy be next week? Yeah? Good point. Yeah,

2532
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 1: that's a good point. A couple of things about McDermott.

2533
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for and thanks for waiting, Andy too. I have

2534
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 1: utmost respect for Sean McDermott. I really do. And I

2535
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: don't know Bill Belichick, never worked with him or around him.

2536
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what his personality is. But John, we're

2537
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: walking down the hall today, you me and our producer

2538
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 1: Jay Harris, Sean stop talk, smiled, laughed. You know what

2539
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean? He's a good guy. And is he focused

2540
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: and intense and driven and detail oriented? Absolutely he's all

2541
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: of that, and he's a good guy, which I appreciate.

2542
02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 1: He's happy to be here, happy to work here, it seems,

2543
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: and happy to interact with the people around him. I like,

2544
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:22,400
Speaker 1: I love that about Sean McDermott. Good coaches like Bill Belichick,

2545
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, Mike Tomlin, you name it. And despite the

2546
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 1: drama that we've seen over the past couple of years

2547
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, you don't see guys confronting them on the

2548
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:35,720
Speaker 1: sidelines like that because they're good head coaches and players

2549
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: are good head coaches. Good coach don't put their players

2550
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 1: in a place where they'll get that frustrated. You get

2551
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:47,160
Speaker 1: frustrated when something's happening that you don't that is wrong,

2552
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,080
Speaker 1: something that you think somebody's doing something wrong. You get

2553
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 1: frustrated when things don't go the way we plan them

2554
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 1: to go because of somebody, a miscommunication or whatever, or

2555
02:03:56,480 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 1: youth had a different expectation. Good head coaches put their

2556
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:03,160
Speaker 1: players in a position to know what's gonna happen, know

2557
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 1: how it's gonna happen, and know what their expectations are

2558
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 1: for them to make it happen. So that doesn't happen

2559
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 1: under good head coaches who have a handle on what

2560
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 1: the communication between the players and their team and their

2561
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:19,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Good head coaches don't have players blowing up

2562
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: on the sidelines at them because they don't have players

2563
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 1: on their team who are uninformed or getting into position

2564
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 1: where they're gonna be that frustrated over something they didn't

2565
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 1: think was gonna happen. That's why you don't see that

2566
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 1: happened to Sean McDermott. That's why you don't see it

2567
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: happened to Bill Belichick. That's why you know you don't

2568
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:40,160
Speaker 1: see it happen to too many teams with stability because

2569
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 1: those head coaches handle things in such a way as

2570
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 1: that they had that frustration never becomes part of the

2571
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: equation disappointment. Sure, you're gonna lose games, down days, are

2572
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: bad plays, yeah, okay, But you're never gonna have anything

2573
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: happen where you're gonna get so frustrated as to explode

2574
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: on the sideline a guy who's in charge of things,

2575
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 1: because that guy's gonna put you in a position to

2576
02:04:59,160 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 1: know exactly why and how it happened, even if it's

2577
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: a negative, a negative event, a loss, or a bad

2578
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:10,600
Speaker 1: play or a misplay call or whatever. You're gonna good

2579
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 1: head coaches, head, you know, don't allow frustration to be

2580
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: part of the equation, you know, So that's you know, yeah,

2581
02:05:17,720 --> 02:05:19,920
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see Sean McDermott have guys like that,

2582
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 1: or Bill Belichick or Mike Tomlin and I said, or

2583
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: some of these other great coach Andy Reid even doesn't

2584
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: have guys like that, doesn't have things like that happened

2585
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 1: to him. Because these players understand the teams, players on

2586
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: those coaches, teams understand what's going on. They've been informed,

2587
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 1: they're part of the process, they're part of the equation.

2588
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 1: They get a voice that's heard before the bad things happen,

2589
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 1: not after. So all of that goes into the mix.

2590
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 1: When you see these players explode on the sidelines, that's

2591
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 1: when things aren't going well, not only on the field,

2592
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: but off the field as well. One other thing about

2593
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Sean and I heard him say this on the radio

2594
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 1: this morning with Howard Simon and Jeremy White about you know,

2595
02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense, and we're talking about Brady a lot

2596
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 1: today and the one thing that he considers sear and

2597
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,200
Speaker 1: I think this is smart and right. One thing Sean

2598
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 1: mentioned is a real asset to New England that is overlooked,

2599
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 1: and I overlook it is the time they've spent together,

2600
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: Brady McDaniels, Belichick too. I guess a certain extent, you

2601
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:24,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They know when they have problems

2602
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 1: and there could have some problem with against a very

2603
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: good Buffalo defense Saturday, they know what the next step

2604
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,680
Speaker 1: is because they've been doing it together as a group

2605
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:33,800
Speaker 1: for many many years. Now. As you point out, there

2606
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,600
Speaker 1: are others on that offense who don't have that experience

2607
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: in it, but the time they've spent in that offense

2608
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:42,040
Speaker 1: working with each other is a huge asset. They know

2609
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 1: exactly where to go when things aren't going to well. Yeah,

2610
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: they have answers for this, and they have answers for that.

2611
02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 1: And if something bad happens, or if they see a

2612
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,800
Speaker 1: scheme or a mindset from the defense that their offense

2613
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: has to attack, they know what the next step is

2614
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 1: and the answered You're right. They have a huge depth

2615
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 1: of knowledge and a huge playbook to go into, a

2616
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 1: catalog plays where they can pull things out and say

2617
02:07:01,640 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. The problem has been they

2618
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:06,960
Speaker 1: can't get anybody else to do it right, and their

2619
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: offensive line hasn't held up enough to give them the

2620
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to do it right. They've got another guy injured

2621
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 1: right now. They're a weaker over here, and they got

2622
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: a compensate for that while they're trying to get this

2623
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 1: answer on the field. You know. So there's a lot

2624
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,839
Speaker 1: of things that happened to them that have been negative,

2625
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: not all of which was their own doing, that has

2626
02:07:26,840 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: caused them to be sabotaged offensively. And there's still eleven

2627
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: and three. Yeah, let's go to a call here. Dennis

2628
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 1: in Little Valley, New York. Hello, Dennis, welcome, you're on

2629
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 1: the show. Hey, Murf Steve. How are you to say?

2630
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 1: Good good? You know, I gotta agree with you, Murph,

2631
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 1: And you know, being an Oak, being an old guy,

2632
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 1: I remember sitting around on Monday nights listening to the

2633
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: late and great Larry Felzership and this kind of discussion

2634
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: came up. I remember about Warren Moon and his likes,

2635
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 1: and you know, seeing what Brady is, it took him

2636
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: a little too long. You know, most guys in their

2637
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: late thirties start slipping a little bit, and they'll have

2638
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:11,320
Speaker 1: two good games and one bad one, and it goes

2639
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 1: on and on like that, and I remember, you know,

2640
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 1: Celts are talking about this, and I didn't really believe

2641
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 1: him at the time, but you know, after watching Tasker

2642
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 1: dump the ball at the Pew High School a few times,

2643
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, I remember that he was actually right, you know,

2644
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: and they slip off a little bit. And the only

2645
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 1: only other thing I might mention. I don't know if

2646
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 1: this is pertinent, but you know, day Ball isn't there anymore.

2647
02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 1: I wonder how much our offensive guy, Dave Ball was

2648
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:45,000
Speaker 1: an influence. I'm I'm Brady for a little bit too. Yeah,

2649
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:48,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's a legitimate question. And look, and let me

2650
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: make clear the first two things. I've said this all

2651
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: afternoon long. That's a question in our Twitter poll. That's

2652
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:55,960
Speaker 1: not a statement about Brady. Number two. I agree with

2653
02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 1: you your country music reference. He could, you know, bring

2654
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: it a bad back for one more game. He could,

2655
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:03,280
Speaker 1: he could do it again. He could do it for

2656
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 1: a couple I guess. But the point was, and the

2657
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:07,520
Speaker 1: point why we got to a Twitter poll on this

2658
02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:11,800
Speaker 1: was the numbers reflect slippage in his play, and observation

2659
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: reflects slippage in his play, and all I wondered, and

2660
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 1: this is why it was the question is hey, is

2661
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 1: Brady at the problem there? I wonder what do you think? Yeah,

2662
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 1: I think the slippage is in the personnel around him.

2663
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, every quarterback needs good players, and every good

2664
02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: team has good players, and the Patriots are struggling to

2665
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 1: find that offensively right now. Edelman, They've tried to lean

2666
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 1: on him, and he's, you know, he's starting to buckle

2667
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:33,600
Speaker 1: under that pressure. You know, he's got ribs, he got

2668
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 1: a knee whatever it is, shoulder, knee, Uh, He's you know,

2669
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,280
Speaker 1: he's struggling to stay out there on the field. And

2670
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: there's no other who has a deep as deep a

2671
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: history with Brady that Brady trusts like he trusts Edelman, certainly.

2672
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:51,480
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle I think is a little bit of a

2673
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 1: disappointment this year. But then too, who else are they

2674
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 1: going to hand the football off? They don't have They

2675
02:09:56,600 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 1: don't have the fullback anymore. The Devlin is out with

2676
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,120
Speaker 1: an injury. Their offensive line has been riddled, as I've

2677
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 1: been talking about in the last ten minutes or so,

2678
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, their offensive line has been up and down

2679
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:09,920
Speaker 1: and riddled with injury. There's a lot of problems with

2680
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:13,240
Speaker 1: personnel around Tom that he's having to kind of cover for.

2681
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 1: And there's no covering for lack of personnel. We have

2682
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 1: no rift. Is there a rift? No, no, no will.

2683
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 1: Of course you're leaving tomorrow a breakcare. We're back One

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2685
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, so what have we

2686
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:47,200
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2688
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Speaker 1: What have we learned? We had a good show, kind

2689
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 1: of a lively show today, a lot of discussion about

2690
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and we learned a little bit too. We

2691
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 1: had a good guest on Thurman, Thomas Hall of Famer.

2692
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 1: We asked, do the Patriots have a Tom Brady problem?

2693
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 1: Here's what Thurman had just said. I don't think it's

2694
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,200
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady for I think it's a talent problem.

2695
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I think that's more with it than anything you look at.

2696
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 1: Look at Edelman, because he really had the typical Edelman

2697
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:17,480
Speaker 1: years been Hey, he's been banged up and up. And

2698
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,320
Speaker 1: if I'm a defensive back for the Buffalo Bills, or anybody.

2699
02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:22,440
Speaker 1: I see that guy coming across the bell, I'm taking

2700
02:11:22,440 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 1: a shot, the tackling harder than I used to. I'm

2701
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 1: taking him all the way down to the ground. I mean,

2702
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: I think I saw a shot where he was in practice,

2703
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: just barely limping around. Yeah, I think. I think it's

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Speaker 1: more of a talent problem. Um. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: the first year he hasn't had Grinkowski. But how many

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Speaker 1: years did he played before Grinkowski got there? Two thousand

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Speaker 1: to one oh eight, seven or eight years? I guess right, right,

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Speaker 1: seven or eight years. Offers there for what eight years? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's missing guys like that. That's Thurman

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady. But he also asked the question to

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Speaker 1: Matt Chatham, former Patriots linebacker now a media mogul in

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Speaker 1: New England. Did the Patriots have a Tom Brady problem?

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Speaker 1: Here's what match Adam said. I think the bigger issue

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Speaker 1: is sort of how the football team was configured, the

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Speaker 1: injuries they've had, and sort of we can't seem to

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Speaker 1: in this market pinned down one week of continuity, whether

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Speaker 1: it be with the offensive line, the receiver group, elements

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Speaker 1: played banged up all year. He's been a Warrior still

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Speaker 1: put up huge numbers, but they bring in Mohammed Sanu

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Speaker 1: that's meant to be the big replacement, and then he,

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Speaker 1: after a ten catch weeks, has a high ankle sprain,

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Speaker 1: so he's kind of been hobbled out there. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line issues sort of been a

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Speaker 1: swinging gate at left tackle. They finally get their first

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Speaker 1: rounder back, the right tackle in that same week gets sick.

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Speaker 1: He's been up and down with illness listed for three weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's like a Sam Darnold at right tackle kind of situation.

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Speaker 1: So there's been frustration, to say the least. But when

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Speaker 1: things are steady around Tom, it's the same guy. It's

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Speaker 1: just been a difficult here getting to stretch together where

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Speaker 1: they can all work together. Interesting discussion today about that.

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Speaker 1: The injury report for the Bills is out. Just want

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Speaker 1: player ruled out. Tie In Seki is out with his ankle.

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Speaker 1: Did not practice all week, So another Mista game enough

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Speaker 1: for Tian Secky and Corey Legit is not questionable. He's

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Speaker 1: been limited all week. Steve all Right, maybe it's Brady,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not, but there's a Patriots offense problem, and

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Speaker 1: I think that means a Buffalo win. I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win this one, seventeen to nine on

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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon. What do you think seventeen to nine. I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be closer than that. I'll yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be I guess nine's one possession. I guess one

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Speaker 1: score game. I think it'll be closer than that. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be more of a seventeen thirteen kind

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Speaker 1: of game. Maybe a thirteen ten kind of game should

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Speaker 1: be a great one. No See will be here tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with Maddy glam Bob Beyond my Way to New England

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Speaker 1: for the game on Saturday of a great weekend. Everybody.

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