1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Sir any thoughts on the Academy Awards. This okay, thank 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: you very nice. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, Sweeld and welcome to the Not Damps podcast 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, March third, twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory alone at 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: the Big Desk today but over yonder making the magic happen. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is and paying off 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: last month's pick Them loss all week long, joining us 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: live from the can. It's Task mellus. 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: Oh, it's already flushing. 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 4: Here I am. At first the Pickham payoff was just 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 4: a man wearing a toilet hat. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: Then it just got worse and worse over the weekend, 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: where JD just wanted to get creative. You started wiring 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: the bathroom and here I am, here, I am. 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: That's right for our podcast listeners, going to encourage you 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: to check out the YouTube stream today because Task is 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 2: not only wearing well, there's going to be so many 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: references to the bathroom this week. Not only is Task 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: wearing a look, let's be honest, a pretty incredible toilet hat. 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: It is very now, yeah, that is amazing. But he 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: is sitting on the can as he podcasts all week long. 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: Do you have that little potty stool that you guys 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: like squatty potty? 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: Ye oh, I would love a footstool. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: We'll get what we'll get you. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because I've got potential hemorrhoids this week, But 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: otherwise everything is great in here. We call it a 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: pick and payoff for January February. February I should say, yeah, 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: but it feels like it was for January November December 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: for like twenty years. I mean, this is a payoff 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: of big depth. 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: So unfortunately, no TK here today. He'll be joining us 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. But yeah, this is going to be an 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: interesting week with tests. See what happens sharing his takes 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: from the bathroom I do. I mean, look, we got 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: a long week here. A very bad take by one 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: of us, be it myself or when Trade joins us, 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: maybe just a straight up flush. Yeah, yeah, it's down 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: the Trade. 42 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: That's your call. 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Use the studio space in there. Oh God, JD's got 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: sound effects. God, JD's really enjoying this. Yeah all right, 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: So on today's show, we're going to go through some 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: NBA weekend winners and we'll touch on the latest news. 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: But first, we had a weggie. Weggie number thirty three. 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: It was in Boston nationally televised game. Al Horford and 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: his beautiful eyes sticking that weggie task on the three 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: point shot. So it had been a while since we 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: have a weggie and there's number thirty three. 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: Al Horford doing it for us. I appreciate it, Al. 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: Al. 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: All right, tasks so much to talk about from a 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: very busy NBA weekend. Let's do a couple rounds of 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: NBA weekend winners. You get it started. Who's who's your 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: big winner from the weekend. 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: Well, the Cleveland Cavaliers going into Boston and getting a 60 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: big win on Friday night. This feels good for the 61 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: Cleveland Cavaliers because this this is something that they can 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: go back on and say, wow, we won a game 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: where Boston looked great to start this game. They truly 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 4: were out there to show the Calves why they won 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: the title. They get up big in that first quart. 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: Just Tin was on fire. Just Tatma was eighteen in 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: the first quarter. They get up twenty five to three. 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: Can see that camera hit Jason Tatum say get the 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: cata here now, I don't know if Tatum's just saying 70 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: Calves get the catta this arena, or he's talking to 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: all the media who were talking about him and whether 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: or not he should have more limelight and all that. 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: But Donovan Mitchell went to the huddle and said, listen, 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: we have allowed thirty eight points in a quarter before. 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: All we got to do is stack good quarter after 76 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: good quarter after good quarter. That's what Donvin Mitchell did. 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: Twelve in the second quarter, fourteen to the third quarter, 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: twelve in the fourth quarter, which was a part of 79 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: the Cleveland Closers. And I called the Cleveland closers because 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: the three of the guys of Donovan Mitchell, Evan Mobley, 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: and Darius Garland had every single one of the points 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: for the Calves in that fourth quarter. And if you're 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: thinking about the Cavs as a potential playoff team that's 84 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 4: gonna go to the NBA Finals, they need those guys 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: to support. Now, three minutes left, it was a tie game. 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: Donovid Mitchell got into the lane, hit that floater. Next play, 87 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: got downhill, hit a beautiful left handed sexy layup high 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: off the glass over sexy ey aes Al Horford and 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: then Darius Garland really sealed this game with the step 90 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: back jumper over Sam Houser. Sam Houser's guarding him. We'll 91 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: get to that in his seq YZ guarding him. But 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 4: Darius Garland has been extremely clutch. He is shooting fifty 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: nine point five percent in clutch situations. That is the 94 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: best percentage of anybody who's taking a minimum of thirty attempts. 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: But Evan Mobley started this fourth quarter. He had the 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: first nine points for the Calves. In the fourth quarter. 97 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: They had a switch on him and Derek White was 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: in the post, so Ivan Mobley took care of him 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: up threes, had to put back at eleven points in 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. I thought this was just a fun 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: game for the cast because of everything they got from 102 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: a bunch of guys. But as I said about Jason Tatum, 103 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 4: he was amazing. He was phenomenal. He finished with forty 104 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: six sixteen boards, nine a sists, and three blocks. Jalen 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 4: Brown had thirty seven himself. But the Celtics didn't have 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: any support. They didn't have a third guy really step up. 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: They didn't have Kristaps Porzingis in this game, or or 108 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: Drew Holiday. Yeah, I was a little disappointed with that 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 4: because I thought the Cavs went and got DeAndre Hunter 110 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: for this matchup to be able to switch defensively and 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: Hunter be able to take Chriss Porzingis just to add 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 4: a little height at that small forward position. But he 113 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: didn't start. I imagine he'll start when it comes to 114 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: playoff time if they do meet them in the conference finals. 115 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: All that to say, DeAndre Hunter was part of the 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: bench that was phenomenal. They outscored the Celtics thirty five 117 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: to six. When it comes to the bench, the Celtics 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: just went seven deep, especially because they had no Drew 119 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: Holiday or Kristaps Porzingis, and they just went to Paying 120 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: Bridge and Luke Cornett, only two guys come off the bench. 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: The Cavs were just having fun. This was Kenny Atkinson saying, well, 122 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: let's get to work here. They were playing different lineups. 123 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: Havant Mobley started at center in the fourth quarter. He 124 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: played like six and a half minutes of the fourth quarter. 125 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: Then they went to Dean Wade for a couple of minutes, 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: and then they brought Jared Allen and Evan Mobiley off 127 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: the bench to finish uh with at the center spot 128 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: after Dean Wade was playing center. Dean Wade was playing center, 129 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: so they were trying fun stuff and Donovan Mitchell, I 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: think I think they can smell it a little bitter, 131 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: don't you. 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: Think, Skeez, I don't know, you're the one in the bath. 133 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: Who's smelling what? Yeah, I think I think the Cavs 134 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: finally say to themselves listen. I know they were in 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: the finals, but they also just gave up a huge 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: lead late season in Boston. These are things that Donovan 137 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: Mitchell and the team can talk to each other about. 138 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: And Donovan Mitchell coming through as the lead guy, but again, 139 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: all those other guys really supporting is huge. 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. Zilla wrote in his newsletter 141 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: this morning, like pointing out, okay, Celtics missing Drew, missing 142 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: KP and if they are to meet in potential conference finals, 143 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: I think the Celtics will still be the favorites, even 144 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: though they likely won't have home court advantage. 145 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: But definitely not you don't think so. Definitely not home court. No, 146 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: that's what that's what I mean. Will they be Yeah, 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: they'll be. I think they'll be very marginal favorite. 148 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Fully healthy, I think so. 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: But Ziller's point was it doesn't even matter because the 151 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: Calves do not fear the Celtics, right, Yeah, And a 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: big part of that is while they don't probably have 153 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: the best player in the series, Donovan Mitchell thinks he's 154 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: the best player in the series and against the Celtics 155 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: has been unbelievable. I mean, he's averaging something like thirty 156 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: five points per game against Boston in all of their 157 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: games this regular season, and that, you know, that can 158 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: help you that just like not being afraid of the champs. 159 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I just hope we get it at this point, 160 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe the Knicks or maybe some other 161 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: team will spoil it and we don't even get to 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: see that matchup, but it feels task like we're headed 163 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: towards that and that is a quality win. And the 164 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: way they came back and the way their guys came 165 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: through in the clutch in. 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: Boston there, yeah, Mitchell there, As you said, four game 167 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: against the Celtics to be averaging thirty five and a half, 168 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: it's got to feel good for them. But you know, 169 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: he has done a good job of allowing the other 170 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: guys to take the lead and you know, scoring less 171 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 4: than he did last year, and so this team has, yeah, 172 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: a belief in themselves. But I mentioned that play where 173 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: he got into the paint to hit that floater. The 174 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: Calves are doing a great job of scoring inside against Boston. 175 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: They kicked their butt and points in the paint in 176 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: this game. And yeah, it would have been different, I 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: would say if Drew Holliday was guarding Darius Garland at 178 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: late in this game rather than Sam Hauser. So there 179 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: is that going for them. But either way, Calves just 180 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: win games and they want Sunday against Portland without Donovan 181 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: Mitchell when the Virginia Bros DeAndre Hunter and Tydrume thirty 182 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: two and twenty five, they just they're racking it up. 183 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: They got the best record in the league. They are 184 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: going to be the one seed. There's no doubt. That 185 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: definitely sealed the one seed in the Eastern Conference because 186 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: Boston just can't come back. 187 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Boston, you know, to their credit, did follow 188 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: up the law us that they gave up the huge 189 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: lead and beat the Nugget. Now they gave up a 190 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: lead again but held on in that one and Sunday 191 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: sort of Markey game there on ABC beating Denver By 192 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: I believe seven in the end. So both these teams, yeah, 193 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: after that great game on Friday night, take care of business, 194 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: so to speak. Be it Cleveland beating the Blazers like 195 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: you said, or obviously Boston beating Denver. 196 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. A tip of the toilet seat to both. 197 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh wow, very nice. Oh man, I didn't know the 198 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: toilet seat lid lifted up. 199 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: It does doesn't stick? 200 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: Wow? 201 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: Drops? Wow? 202 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Is that your hair right there you're touching when you 203 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: go inside the tolet bowl? 204 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: Hats? 205 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: Okay, you could pull things out of there, it'd be great. 206 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it moving here. My big winner 207 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: of the weekend is the New York Knicks, or as 208 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure Knicks fans are calling them, the cardiac Nicks, 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: because this weekend, holy crap, wild couple of games. On 210 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: Friday night, og Ananobi made the go ahead three point 211 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: over about five seconds remaining as the Knicks beat the 212 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Grizzlies one fourteen, one thirteen, back and forth, affair clutch 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: sort of matchmaking between the two teams, but they get 214 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: it done in the end. And the good news for 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: the next was Mitchell Robinson came back in this game. 216 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: He made his season debut after recovering from left ankle surgery. 217 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: Finished with six points, five boards, played about twelve minutes, 218 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: so not a lot of time. He was out there 219 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: on the floor task For the final play, I think 220 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: he sort of got lucky because John Morant, you know, 221 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: missed a tough left handed layup that was challenged by 222 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: the Knicks defenders, and then Mitchell Robinson, looking a little sluggish, 223 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: looking like a guy who had play basketball a long time, 224 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: Santi Aldama sort of out tipped him to that ball 225 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: and it just didn't drop. So he got really lucky there, 226 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: but I thought overall looked decent for a guy coming back, 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: So that was huge. Og sort of hitting the clutch shot. 228 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: And then it continued because on Sunday, Jalen Brunson he 229 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: scored thirty one points as the Knicks overcame a nineteen 230 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: point deficit to the Miami Heat. They win in overtime 231 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: one sixteen, one twelve, And this one man, the Knicks 232 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: were down fourth, like a minute to go, and they 233 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: scored four straight to get it into overtime. It was 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: Og and a no Be again playing the hero gorgeous 235 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: tip back off a miss jail and Brunson jumper just 236 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: like perfectly timed, got that one to drop and then 237 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Brunson had like a little running layup in sort of 238 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: semi transition. The defense hung on and then they took 239 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: care of business in overtime. So the NIXT winning two 240 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: like crazy games this weekend OG was huge. And you 241 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: said Darius Garland awesome in the clutch. Unfortunately he's going 242 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: to lose Clutch Player of the Year, I believe to 243 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson. I know TK has that take as well, 244 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: and probably rightfully. 245 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: So Brudson is very good. Yeah, fifty four point five 246 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 4: percent in clutch situations. I had to look it up 247 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: that it's very good. He's taking a lot of shots. Now. 248 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: Garland's percentage is a good five points better. So that 249 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: being said, we know that the pressure is on Mitchell 250 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: and Cleveland and the pressure is on Brunson there in 251 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 4: New York. It was an awesome three. I thought that 252 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: Friday night game against the Memphis Grizzlies, it was the 253 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: game of the weekend for me. To start. It was 254 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: just super fun. Felt like we're back in nineteen ninety 255 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: five watching on the Vancouver Grizzlies flow there because they 256 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: had to throw back floor going. But just the way 257 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: it ended punch for punch, it looked like John Morant 258 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: was gonna win that with that beautiful layup as you 259 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: mentioned there, and then I thought Al Damo had the tip. Yeah, 260 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 4: I mean that was a great tip. But just to 261 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: see og also grow, I mean that three point shot. 262 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: And then as you mentioned those plays against Miami, I thought, 263 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 4: a bigger bonus or a bigger positive from the Nick 264 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: side is to see that guy when he sees a 265 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: little bit of floor in front of him and the 266 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: attention is on Brunson or Cat and he gets the 267 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: ball and there's that floor. He is making great b lines. 268 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: That is what he needs to do when he sees 269 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: that floor, and he did it a great job against Miami, 270 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: looking very very good, very fun endings. It always seems 271 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: like the Knicks go down to the wire, yeah, in 272 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: a close game. 273 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's always like some crazy plays or like 274 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: a hustle Josh Hart play, or like an overturned call, 275 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, it's been a wild ride. Knicks 276 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: are now forty and twenty, so they're hanging on to 277 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: the third seed there in the East. They're only two 278 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: an a half half back from the Celtics for the 279 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: second seed, so maybe something to watch. I'm with you. 280 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: Feels like the Cavs have the number one seed and 281 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: then it's going to be Celtics or New York in 282 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, two three, depending where they land. They have 283 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: one game left against each other, and Boston of course 284 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: is taking care of business when they played the Knicks, 285 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: like they can't beat them in New York camp. 286 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: But one game left. 287 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: I think it's April eighth, so really, like right at 288 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: the end of the regular season, it might mean nothing, 289 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: could mean everything if they're close enough. So maybe keep 290 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: your eye on that. 291 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. We will be watching those games. 292 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: There's just good games every single night in the NBA. 293 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: This show doesn't have Steven A. Smith's on it, which 294 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: is positive. Guys. We'll get to see later in the show. 295 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that. We love basketball. All right, 296 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: let's do another round. Who else do you have for 297 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: a winner of the weekend? 298 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: Got to give it to the Lakers. Obviously, six wins 299 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: in a row for the Los Angeles Lakers. They beat 300 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: the Clippers twice at home, both in Crypto dot Com 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: Arena on the weekend and that's coming off a win 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: on Thursday against Minnesota. So three wins and four nights. 303 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: They're just beating everybody. And on Thursday they had to 304 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: finish with Dorian Finney Smith and Gabe Vincent in that game, 305 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: and then they started on Friday because of injuries to 306 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: reach mur in Austin Reeves. And I mentioned those. 307 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: Guys because the Lakers have depth. 308 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: I just didn't buy it when the trade was made 309 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: that they had enough depth. But Luca's getting support. And 310 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: let's start a little bit with Luca because the second 311 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: half of that Friday night game against Los Angeles Clippers, 312 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: he looked awesome. It's starting to look like everything is clicking. 313 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 4: Twenty points in the second half, nine free throw attempts 314 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: in the second half. That's Luca. That's Luca, baby. And 315 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: then Sunday night he started game He's Game two against 316 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: the Clippers on fire. He looked great. He's hitting threes, 317 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: he's using the thumb to count up to three like 318 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: a real balcon bro. He looked great. And then he 319 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: was setting up Dalton connect for a three. Speaking of depth, 320 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: that's when Tyler said, Okay, they've got this guy here. 321 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: They didn't make that trade for Mark Williams. Maybe it 322 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: worked out for them even better. We need a time out, 323 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: so Tyler talked about it. Then Luca came back and 324 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: there was just Luca again. But the worrisome part was 325 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: late in the first quarter, about a minute forty left. 326 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: Luca hits a couple free throws and then goes straight 327 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: to the locker room. He starts pointing at his hip. 328 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: I guess it's the gluteus median on the outside of 329 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: the show. Oh yeah, I guess. I guess I am 330 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: sort of pointing at it. Actually, yeah, no, I'd rather not. 331 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: But he goes. But he came back, and so the 332 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: worrist part was, oh no, oh, no, Luca's hurt. But 333 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: he did come back. Yeah, and he looked great. Finished 334 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: with twenty nine points five of twelve from three point leans. 335 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: So that initial oh, can you shoot threes anymore? As 336 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: he banged up, you know, below the waist because he 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: had the calf injury. That's not a worry anymore. And 338 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: I have to mention the subs fur their injuries. Dori 339 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: and Finney Smith now starting, Gabe Vincent now starting for Rui, 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: and Austin Reevez hopefully don't have long term injuries. But Sunday, 341 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: I mean Dorry and Phinney Smith plus twenty four. That's 342 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: the most important stat of his. It doesn't matter what 343 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: he points these scords, he just keeps continuing to produce. 344 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: The guy does it all. When he was on the bench, 345 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: he was strictly like it was everything I say, strictly 346 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: the backup center, but he was also on the perimeter. 347 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Whether or not he has to fight over a pick 348 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: on a ball handler, he'll do that and then he'll 349 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: recover to contest the shot at the center spot. I mean, 350 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: his on off numbers, because he's just so good, are ridiculous. 351 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: He's plus fourteen and a half. His on off number 352 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: is very, very good for him. I mean the difference 353 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: is so drastic. So now he's starting, he's going to 354 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: finish games. As I said, against the Timberwolves, they can 355 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: just pick Okay, you can start and do your thing, 356 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: but we've got him to finish off games. Gabe has 357 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: come in and played well for Austin Reeves. Dalton connect 358 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: has played well and on the other side quickly for 359 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Clippers. Norm Powell came back for the 360 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: first time since before the All Star Game on Sunday. 361 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: That was a guy that I wasn't worried when I 362 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: picked the Clippers over the Lakers against Yu Skeetz, I said, 363 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 4: all right, the Clippers have got this series. I thought 364 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: Norm Powell wasn't the worry. We all worry about Kawhi, 365 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: maybe James Harden, but Norm. You never worry about Norm's injury. 366 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: But he came back in this game and then left 367 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 4: with a hamstring injury. So that is that is scary 368 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: for a guy who came back. It looked like just 369 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: to play the Lakers. Luca was asked about it after game. 370 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: It seems like everybody comes back from injuries and plays 371 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 4: the Lakers, and he said, yeah, I think that is true. 372 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 4: Everybody comes back and it's it stinks for him. And 373 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: they're currently in the sixth seed. It's such a tight race. 374 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: We'll get into it later. But the Lakers have moved up. 375 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: They moved up to the second seed. I can't believe it. 376 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: I have to put my hands on the wall here 377 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: in the in the bathroom. I just have to hold myself. 378 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: I just I can't believe the Lakers have gone up 379 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: that high. It's they're currently tied with the Nuggets. So 380 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: they're the percentage points ahead of the Nuggets. So we'll 381 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: see where they finish. But a fantastic, fantastic run here 382 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: for Luca and everybody. Their depth again, they don't need 383 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: a backup center. They got Orne Fanny Smith. It is phenomenal. 384 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're winning all these games because they've ramped 385 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: up their defense, right And yeah, of course you have Lucas, 386 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: you have enough offense and defensively is what winning them 387 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: all these games over the last like whatever, like three weeks. 388 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: It feels like at this point, but you're right up 389 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: to second seed because you had Denver losing, you Grizzlies losing, 390 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: like I talked about with the Knicks, you had the 391 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: Rockets for whatever reason, they can't beat the Kings. So 392 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: here's La all the way up to the second seed, 393 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: which is wild. This was like not long ago we 394 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: were like they're fighting for their lives in the play 395 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: in tournament, right, and now they've come all this way 396 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: up and they freaking added Luka Doncic. Thanksnku, So Lakers, 397 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: that's a good quality winner of the weekend. But you 398 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: slipped it in there sort of holding your breath a 399 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: little bit hoping that the injuries to Reeves and Ruey 400 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: are nothing too serious, because those guys are super important, 401 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: so at least they're like playoff hopes or championship hopes 402 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: at that. 403 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, there's no doubt about that. And Lebron's gonna 404 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: have an off game like you had on Sunday. It 405 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: would help to have Austin Reeves shot making is. He's 406 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: a very good player at that, so he Yeah, they're needed. 407 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lebron. Yeah, so Lebron one point shy of 408 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: fifty thousand in his career. When you're doing when you're 409 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: including the. 410 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Playoffs, yeah, it's unbelievable. 411 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: You're bracing yourself again. Fifty even. 412 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: I had to look that up, and I know he's 413 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: number one in NBA history period. But yes, the plus 414 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: playoffs they got me, got me fifty thousand. 415 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: Sounds cool. That sounds like a lot of points. 416 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: Finally, yeah, finally, he has a lot of points. 417 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going here. I want to 418 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: give a winner of the weekend to what I'm dubbing 419 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: the career High Boys, Grimes and J dub sounds like 420 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: a show coming up on TNT. Grimes and J dub 421 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: coming up next after inside. In Phillies first game since 422 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: dwell Embiid was shut down for the season, Quinton Grimes 423 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: went for forty four points, shot eighteen to twenty four 424 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: from the field, six and nine from deep in a 425 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: win in a Sixers win. 426 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: Believable against the. 427 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Warriors who were missing Jimmy Butler. But still that's shocking. 428 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: And this surprising scoring explosion is nuts when you consider 429 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Grimes had three points on one of four shooting the 430 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: game before, so there's that. And he only had one 431 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: game ever where he scored at least thirty points this 432 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: season before Saturday, so just out of nowhere, Grimes was 433 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: on fire. That was just wild to see forty four. 434 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: He also had like a clutch hoop in this game. 435 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: He got by on drov On Santos put the Sixers 436 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: up two, and then Yabaselli hit a corner three the 437 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: next time down and that gave him enough space. So 438 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: that was wild. Though you have any quick thoughts on 439 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: on Quinton Grimes, there. 440 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: Always been a Quentin Grimes fan. You didn't know a 441 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: forty four spot was happening in an NBA game. But 442 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: the smile he's got, he's got great teeth. This huge 443 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: smile he had. It reminds me of Trey's had that 444 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: maniacal laugh on our show last week where he had 445 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 4: those big teeth. Lots of compliments on his teeth, lots 446 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: comments on Q's teeth. I mean, Quentin Grimes looks looks great. 447 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: And this whole Paul George thing, I'm not going to 448 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: podcast anymore, that has to be a benefit for the 449 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: team in some weird way that there at least he 450 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 4: knows that despite Joel and b being up for the season, 451 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: which we'll get to, at least Paul's dedicated. It's a 452 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: weird race in the Eastern Conference for the ten seed. 453 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean those games are interesting. They're playing 454 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: Portland today. That'll be our Pickham game. I'll be picking 455 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 4: it from the toilet later in the show. But that 456 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: don't pick it out of the toilet. No, Okay, I don't. 457 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: It's not there, don'tkay. 458 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, shouldn't Quentin Grimes be upset 459 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: that Paul George isn't podcasting anymore? 460 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: This would be awesome. 461 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: Shouldn't get more minutes? 462 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Heah, he might go on, he might have him on 463 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: the show talk to him about four point game. He's like, 464 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: come on, man, bring it back, give me some more buzz. 465 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, just like us, there's offseason shows to phill 466 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: come on in the off season. 467 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: Okay. So that was one of the career high boys. 468 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: And then Jalen Williams, like I said, Jay Dubbed, he 469 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: had a career high forty one points. Surprised me a 470 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: little bit, like, oh wow, that's his career high. Okay, 471 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: awesome for OKC as they beat the Spurs one forty 472 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: six to one thirty two. This is on Sunday. They 473 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: spoiled the Spurs' homecoming there following a very long ass 474 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: road trip. They had been gone forever. But Jdubb dominated 475 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: the second half. This guy was mustling his way to 476 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: the rim time and time again, and he was hitting 477 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: crazy little circus shots and ones left and right by 478 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: That dude is a bulldozer and he was the reason 479 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: they won this game because okay, se was leading by 480 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: two with like fourteen minutes to go, and then you know, 481 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: he just went off and they ripped off another one 482 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: of these crazy runs. Because the Spurs couldn't miss a 483 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: three pointer in the first half. They gave up another 484 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: seventy seven point first half, okay, see did, but then 485 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: they scored thirty eight fourth quarter points and Jay Dubb 486 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: scored more than half of those. So he added to 487 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: the forty one six rebounds, seven assists, four made threes, 488 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: and zero turnovers. Tast so pretty damn impressive game from 489 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: him and getting his career high. 490 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 4: Always tough coming back from a long road trip like that. 491 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets also coming back from a long road trip. 492 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 4: That's my excuse for them stinking at home. They because 493 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: of the All Star Break. They were not home since 494 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: before the All Star Break. That's a nine game road trip, 495 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: just like the Spurs had a ridiculously long one. And yeah, 496 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: we we'll talk about that later. I don't want to 497 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 4: talk about the nut Dust Bowl and the Hornets losing again. No, no, no, not. 498 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: Now, No, this is all about the career high boys. 499 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: But fun stat from the Oklahoma so j Dub and 500 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: then Shake Gildess Alexander who finished with thirty one points, 501 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: eight assists, and zero turnovers. Those two became just the 502 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: second duo in NBA history to tally forty points and 503 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: thirty points respectively with zero turnovers each only happened one 504 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: other time. You want to take a crack at it, 505 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: you got to go back to the nineties. The two teammates, 506 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: teammates that scored forty and thirty in a game but 507 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: both had zero turnovers. 508 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 4: Could have just maybe because I said to Charlotte Horns, 509 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: it's not that but Del Curry and Glenn Rice. No, no, uh, 510 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: guys who don't pass. 511 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: But a nineties team that was super popular and everyone 512 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: had their starter jackets. 513 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: And you know the one. 514 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, we both well, both of these guys have 515 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: been on our show in the past. One loved wedgies, 516 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: one loved grilling. 517 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: So Dennis Scott obviously loved grilling. Yeah, and Shack loved Shack. 518 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: Dennis Scott the only other duo to do that forty 519 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: and thirty and then zero turnovers. So now it's SGA 520 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: or I guess I should say j Dub and SGA respectively. 521 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: Crazy also had a little ejection in that game, little scuffle, 522 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: I should say, I don't know if you saw that. Okay, 523 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: see in San Antonio, Champenni, Kenrich Williams and then Lou 524 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: Dork got tossed too because he came sort of screaming 525 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: in and got into it with so hand. But it 526 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: was really Champagne and Kenrich Williams. Kenrich did not like that. 527 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: He took sort of a bow to the face when 528 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: Champagne was throwing it though, like Kendrick Williams was like 529 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: in his shorts, so I don't really know what he expected. 530 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: It's like he's trying to get rid of the ball man. 531 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: His album might hit your face because you're right up 532 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: against him. But anyway, no, no punch is thrown. 533 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: Right, I did not see that. Oh yeah, that mud 534 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: flat battle. 535 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: All right, one more round of weekend winners. Who else 536 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 2: you got? 537 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to the Western Conference and I just 538 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 4: deem anybody who's going to watch Western Conference playoff games 539 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: a winner, because it is going to be a scrap. 540 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: Just think of these standings below the OKC Thunder. It 541 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 4: is incredible. Two through five, there's only a game and 542 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: a half separating those four teams. It's pretty phenomenal. And 543 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: then even deeper, six through ten are separated by half 544 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 4: a game. They essentially all have the same records. It's 545 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: a thirty two and twenty eight for the Clippers, a 546 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: thirty two and twenty eight for the Warriors, a thirty 547 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: three and twenty nine for the Wolves, a thirty one 548 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 4: and twenty eight for the Kings, and a thirty two 549 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: and twenty nine for the MAVs. It is going to 550 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: be a blood battle. And those are the teams along 551 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: with okay see, that are going to make the Western 552 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: Conference playoffs. Because the Sun's lost to the Timberwolves on 553 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: Sunday night, it is officially over. They're done done. 554 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 3: Flush them, flush them, flush them. 555 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: This is for you, Phoenix. 556 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 5: Oh oh, do we have a sound effect? Yes, flushing 557 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: in a real toilet plushing. Wow, we doubled down Dolby sound. Yes, 558 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: that's a six point oh baby, Suns are done. Mathematically, 559 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 5: they're still alive. 560 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: I think they're only four games back, but they are 561 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: absolutely done. I think it's more likely that they finish 562 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: eleventh than they even finished. Excuse me, excuse me. It's 563 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: more likely they finish twelfth then they finish eleventh. The 564 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: Blazers are right on top of them. The Suns have 565 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: the toughest schedule the rest of the way. The Blazers 566 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: are only one game back to them. They have a 567 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: pretty tough schedule too. All right, water is filled up. 568 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: I's going to say the sound effect goes a little 569 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: quicker than the real flush, but it feels like the 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 2: players are going to catch the Suns that the Suns 571 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: are just absolutely done. 572 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: Either way, the Western Conference playoffs with the Suns out 573 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: of there are going to be fun. All those teams 574 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 4: I just mentioned are going to be fun playoffs series, 575 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: fun play in games to get in there. They're going 576 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: to be real tough, real tough. All five of those teams, 577 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: the Clippers, Warriors, Wolves, Kings, MAVs are going to be ridiculously, 578 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: ridiculously tough. It's good for the MAVs with all these 579 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: injuries that are happening. If there is some sort of 580 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: bright spot on their season, it's that they've survived because 581 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: it's highly highly unlikely that the Sons are going to 582 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 4: be able to recover and beat them despite all those injuries. 583 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 4: They'll still be alright and they'll still make it at 584 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: least to the play because we'll have guys be coming 585 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 4: back for them. But anyways, a fun, fun time if 586 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: you watch Western Conference playoff basketball, oh for sure. 587 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: I mean it is crazy how close it is. We'll 588 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: get into the whole Phoenix Suns and what they need 589 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 2: to do this offseason. Are they going to trade Kevin 590 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: Durant Probably Where will he be traded? That's interesting. I 591 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: think we can do that on tomorrow show when t 592 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: Kane joins us and we have a little more time. 593 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm with you, like, yeah, flush them, they're done. 594 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: It's so they like this would if we were doing 595 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: losers today as we usually do winners and losers, I mean, 596 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: it would be suns for like the third or four 597 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: straight weekend. I feels like, did you see Anthony Edwards 598 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: scored forty four points against them and then tried a 599 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: pretty audacious alley oop attempt that Bradley Beal was not 600 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: having any of and he like literally pushed him in 601 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: the air. We were gonna have one of the great 602 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: nut I mean, at least one of the best alley 603 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: oops in the season off the bounce from Dante DiVincenzo, 604 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean, definitely clowning them a little bit, but h 605 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: Beale said no, and it got upgraded to a flagrant 606 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: one because he's completely exposed in the air, and then 607 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: Ant was upset about that. 608 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, a bounce past Ali up that doesn't happen. 609 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: Happened in the All Star Game. Was that a Stephen 610 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: Yannis a couple of years ago? Yet? That was fun, 611 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: But it would have been fun to see ant. 612 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: Dude, don't see it in a game all that off? Yeah, 613 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean it was skying too. He really like grazed 614 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: his head off the backboard. It would have been crazy, 615 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: all right. A couple other honorable mentions for winner of 616 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: the Weekend the Raptors Task. They executed the ethical tank 617 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: job versus the Bulls on Friday. 618 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: Do you think that was on purpose? 619 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: Uh? 620 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit because when they sit yaka Pearl, 621 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: they stink worse than the bathroom you're in right now. 622 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty amazing. They nearly did it again 623 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: against the Magic. You'll take Pearl out and suddenly there 624 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: goes the lead. But they held on. They got that win. 625 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean like yes and no. 626 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: They were up in the fourth. Yeah, they looked like 627 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 4: it was over. I looked like they were going to win, 628 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: but they somehow just gave it a bad offensive possession 629 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: after bad offensive possession. These are the things they need 630 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: to work out. This is great for them. This is 631 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 4: great for them. 632 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: And maybe don't follow the three point shooter you are 633 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: up four like they did to Kobe White. That Darren 634 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: Fox honorable mention hit a game winner for the Spurs. 635 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: That was big. I mean we had like sort of 636 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: pointed out Dearn Fox was brutal for like the last 637 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: week or so, but he had that game winner. That's 638 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: why you get a guy like that. Moving forward, with 639 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: Wemby's back, you know you're gonna see probably a couple 640 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: more of those, I would assume next year. Steph Curry 641 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: notched his first slam dunk since twenty nineteen. He said 642 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: it's his last dunk. Yeah as well, like I will 643 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: not be doing that. 644 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: Again, he said, I'm calling it. 645 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: He barely got it in, really, I mean it sort 646 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: of grazed over the room. He said. It took a 647 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 2: lot out of them in that in that loss. That 648 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: was in that loss to the Quentin Gras game. 649 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: That maybe why he doesn't want to do it again 650 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: because he barely got over. Yeah. 651 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, that's the last one, so enjoy it. 652 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: So that's pretty crazy. And then you already slipped it 653 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: in a little bit. But the Pelicans defeated the Jazz 654 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: on Sunday. That's huge in the nut dust Bowl standings 655 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: because I have the Pelicans, they improved to seventeen and 656 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: forty four. Trey has the Jazz, they fell to fifteen 657 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: and forty five. 658 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, big swing. 659 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: That's like any of these games you're talking about in 660 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: the Western Conference right now. You know these two teams 661 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: play each other. It's a huge swing in the standings. 662 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: That's one there in the nut Dust Bowl standings. 663 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: Yes, you're safe. It looks like you're not going to 664 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: have the worst record of the three teams. The Utah 665 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Jazz are trays you're lucky. You got the Pelicans. You're good. 666 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: You're good. I call the Charlotte Hornets. Now they have 667 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: lost all four games to the Washington Wizards this season. 668 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: Saw that's a weird one. Wizards have eleven wins, and 669 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: four of them against Charlotte. Charlotte coming home after a 670 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: nine game road trip, I say, it's all right to 671 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: lose your first game. It's always a little tough. And again, 672 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: they haven't been home since before the All Star Game, 673 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: so it's a long time, and then it takes you 674 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: a while to get used to it. It was a 675 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: weird road trip where they beat the Lakers on the 676 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 4: road trip, so we'll see I'm one back of Trey. 677 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm just doing stupid poopy things here at 678 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: the end of the season. So I'll be eating something. 679 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: So we'll keep our eye on that. I am feeling 680 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: pretty good having a colored games clear you guys. But 681 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: my final winner of the weekend, I'm going to give 682 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: it to the Milwaukee Bucks because on Saturday, Jannis and 683 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard combined for fifty seven points to lead the 684 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: Bucks over the MAVs. What am I hearing? 685 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: Right? I was hearing something in the studio, so I 686 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: had to stop talking for a second. There's some weird noises. 687 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, Gene, is not you or what's 688 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: going on? 689 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: It's not me, okay, I just picked up my paper. 690 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: Oh okay, just just a second. My knee cracked as well. 691 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard my knee cracked that. 692 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: It's g there's that. I was plopping something, plopping something, Yes, okay. 693 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: Stop plopping. That's a professional. 694 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: Basketball podcast under the Athletic Umbrella owned by the New 695 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: York Times. Jesus man. 696 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: I just had to close my legs because I saw 697 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: them open up there. 698 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jannis and Dame fifty seven points. 699 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, as the Bucks beat the Mavericks and Gary Trent 700 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: Junior out of twenty points. He's on a bit of 701 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: a run right now, like the streaky guy. We've seen 702 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: it with the Raptors, We've seen it with his previous teams. 703 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: Right now, he's on a little bit of a hot streak. 704 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: But the Bucks won for their sixth time in seven games, 705 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: and they have now sort of gotten up into fourth 706 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: place in the Eastern Conference. I wanted to show Milwaukee 707 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: some love even though they only played that one game 708 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: there over the weekend, because Bucks fans tasks were upset 709 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: that we didn't discuss their team beating the Nuggets late 710 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: last week on the Drop podcast because they beat them 711 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday night. We had a bunch of other things 712 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: going on the Drop podcast. So this is a nice 713 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: way to like give them a little love from that win. 714 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: And they continued it there on the road where they 715 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: haven't been great. They've been very bad on the road, 716 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: but got that win in Dallas. 717 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a win. It's nothing really to write home about. Okay, 718 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: we give Jannis is like the brother I never had. Okay, 719 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: that's too far, but I give what I'm trying to say, 720 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: is I've showed him plenty of. 721 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: Blood just to your actual brothers. 722 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: That's true, but really, yeah, it's a love relationship with 723 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: you as we talk about him all the time. Yeah. Yeah, 724 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: you can't ridicule us. You can ridicule steven A for 725 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: not talking about Jason Tatum you want to talk about 726 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: But now we talk about Yani's plenty and so they 727 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: beat the mass Yeah. 728 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: So obviously shorting a mass sem but I like this. 729 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: Giannis was brutal this year once again from the free 730 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: throw line. I think he was shooting fifty eight percent 731 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: when he entered that game on Saturday, but he went 732 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 2: eleven for thirteen at the free throw line. So you're 733 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: gonna need to have some of those in the playoff 734 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: games if they're going to advance. And he had a 735 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 2: good one. But him and Dame, he talked about it too. 736 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: He's like, like, they're the leading duo in the league 737 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to scoring, honest and Dame right, And 738 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: he's like, so you know he's being asked about that, 739 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: and he's like, well, we're number like, we're the best. 740 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: So things are obviously working and you are seeing a 741 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: little more like Doc Rivers is like he is focusing 742 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: on like Dame and y honest action, like let's go 743 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 2: more and more and more. So that's a good sign. 744 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: And Dame had a good game as well. 745 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 4: Yes, we'll see if they can take that over to 746 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: the last six minutes of a fourth quarter in the playoffs. 747 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: You definitely see the chemistry working. And yeah, that's why 748 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 4: I start to think that is the brother I never 749 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 4: had my brothers. My brother could score. There's no doubt 750 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 4: when I played with him. But you know, he's not Yania, 751 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: I assume not. I'm just looking at my phone. See 752 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 4: if he's listening, See if he texted me yet not yet, Okay, phone, 753 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 4: phone fell in the toilet, so I'll get it later. 754 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to some NBA weekend news. We'll 755 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: start with the injuries here. Seventy six Ers star Jewel 756 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: Embiid's season it's donezo A team announced late last week 757 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: that Embiid has been ruled out for the remainder of 758 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: the season because he is quote medically unable to play. Previously, 759 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: Embiid and the Sixers had been trying to sort of 760 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: manage the pain and the swelling there in that left knee, 761 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: which did require surgery in February twenty twenty four. But 762 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: they officially have shut him down. Not a surprise task. 763 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: We'd been really basically calling for this. I know you 764 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: had been for weeks now, and they're going through on 765 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: it and shutting them down. 766 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: Yes, And they came out and said he and his 767 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 4: doctors don't know how his knee will be fixed. And 768 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 4: that is obviously very scary to hear because this isn't 769 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 4: an injury that he just sustained. This is something that 770 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 4: happened after last year's playoffs when he had to undergo surgery, 771 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 4: and right, excuse me, he had to undergo surgery after 772 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: he was landed on and this is just rolling into 773 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: this year. That was last year. That was almost a 774 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: full calendar year ago. He's played a lot of basketball since. 775 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 4: But for them to come out and say this quote, 776 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: he's unable to play and we'll miss the remainder of 777 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 4: the season to focus on treatment and rehabilitation. He's working 778 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: on a treatment plan. He told Lisa Assaulters a few 779 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: weeks ago, I might need surgery. What we're trying to 780 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 4: say here is there isn't an answer. And you know 781 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 4: from the positive side of things, The doctors have said, 782 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: maybe he can get closer to one hundred percent at 783 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 4: some point if we remedy him some way. But it 784 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 4: just sure feels like, without a clear answer, without a hey, 785 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 4: he's going under the scapula for this type of surgery, 786 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 4: it's really just a hope that this surgery again. After 787 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 4: early twenty twenty four, he hasn't been able to recover 788 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 4: and the medical team has said there's no conventional operation 789 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: to improve him. Yes, this is something we don't really 790 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: go through here in the NBA. I mean, we've obviously 791 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: had guys that haven't been the same. You're Grego and 792 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 4: you're Brandon Roy and that kind of thing. But this 793 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 4: sure feels, unfortunately like he's not going to be anywhere 794 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: close to that guy that carried a team and won 795 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: an MVP. 796 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he experienced pain and swelling in his knee throughout 797 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 2: the season by all reports, and it was very unpredictable, 798 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: like when it would come and go, like it would 799 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: suddenly just flare up, like after a good game, after 800 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: a good practice or workout. So it's like what do 801 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 2: you do? But it's got to be a concern here 802 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: for the Sixers. Moving forward tests, Right, He's thirty one 803 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: this month, so given his age, his overall physical condition, 804 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: his track record, of course with these knees, it feels 805 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: a little weird or maybe even to think he can 806 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: regain his MVP form. I don't know if we're ever 807 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: gonna see that peak embid, right, because of all this, 808 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: which sucks, and especially when you consider he's owed nearly 809 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million dollars over the next four seasons, 810 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: all of which is guaranteed money. So man, you gotta 811 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 2: pray and hope that whether it's rehabilitation, whether it's another surgery, 812 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: whatever it is, that it works to some extent where 813 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: the guy can just even play and get to eighty 814 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: percent or eighty five percent of MVP embid. Otherwise this 815 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: is bad. 816 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, It's unlike that first contract that he's signed 817 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: that required him to remain and shape. This one is 818 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: guaranteed the rest of the way. I guess if, again 819 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: Rose colored glasses, you say, well the guy will play again, 820 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: it sure feels. 821 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 3: Out, okay, And I believe that, right, yeah. 822 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 4: Because he could be playing now. I know they've deemed 823 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 4: him unfit to play and that he's had to undergo 824 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: things every single game, every single day, and. 825 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, they want to lean into being bad. Yeah, 826 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: they want to keep their pick and they're not going 827 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: anywhere this year whether he plays or not. Yeah. 828 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, And as you said, he's getting older. The reason 829 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 4: why I think it's even a little late that they 830 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 4: shut it down because you want a longer roadway here 831 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: to next season. That's you just want this guy who's 832 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 4: into his thirties to be back and playing as well 833 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 4: as possible and everything to be all happy as possible, 834 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 4: and podcasts recording interviews with Joel Embiid about him coming back, 835 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 4: it just seems like a very long time. As he 836 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 4: totally assaulters, it may require surgery, may take a long time, 837 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 4: so he's going to slow play going into next season, 838 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 4: which she did for this season. It is just such 839 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 4: an up and down and you combine that with all 840 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: the fines for the Philadelphia seventy six ers, the suspension 841 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: that Embid had when he was frustrated with the writer 842 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 4: there in Philadelphia. There is there's a lot that happened 843 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 4: this season. It's it is. It is a terrible season. 844 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, period, Oh my god. Embiid's career scoring average is 845 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven point seven points per game. That's behind only 846 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: Jordan Wilt Chamberlain and Luka Doncic. Career scoring averages is 847 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: pretty crazy. He obviously won an MVP, two scoring titles, 848 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: seven time All Star, five All NBA teams. I guess 849 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: what I'm getting out here. If embiand never plays another game, 850 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: he's still a Hall of Famer, like he would go 851 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame, I believe with those accolades, 852 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: despite being the only NBA MVP who has never let 853 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: his team be on the second round, like he has 854 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: that sort of against him, that playoff success, that sort 855 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: of has failed him. And he's never played in more 856 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: than sixty eight games in a season. He's only top 857 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: sixty three other times, so that's that's always been the 858 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: knock on him, unfortunately. But he's a giant dude, and 859 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: this isn't the first time we've seen a giant, talented 860 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 2: big man whose career is maybe shortened or derailed because 861 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 2: of injuries. Because I keep thinking, task now, if this 862 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 2: is the beginning of the end, Let's say for Joel Embiid, 863 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: how is he remembered in NBA history moving forward? And 864 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: I think It's like sort of a combo of a 865 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: couple guys because on one hand, other talented big men like 866 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Yao Ming, Ralph Sampson, they had injury shortened careers, right 867 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: that kept them from potentially even higher levels of success 868 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,959 Speaker 2: both individually and team success and trying to win a title. 869 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: So they come to mind. Then another one is maybe 870 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: like a little Tracy McGrady Joel Embiid comparison. Incredible peak 871 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: for both those guys, scoring titles for both those guys, 872 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 2: but some banged up years obviously, and then very little 873 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: playoff success, you know, McGrady, like Embiid is there and 874 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: then just finally and this is a bit of a 875 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: weird one, but Patrick Ewing, I think is going to 876 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: come to mind when we talk about Embiid twenty thirty 877 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: forty years from now. Both men Hall of Fame worthy centers, beloved, 878 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: I believe, more by their fan bases than maybe the 879 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 2: general public. And I think a part of that is 880 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: is because of the elite contemporaries that they were battling 881 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 2: at their position for their career. Patrick Ewing, It's like 882 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: Shack and a chem Elijah Wan, maybe even David Robinson. 883 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: And then it's sort of Patrick Ewing right there, whereas 884 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: Embiid will have battled and is battling Yokich and Yannis, 885 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 2: and it's like he's always gonna slot I think, behind 886 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: them at the end of the day. And a big 887 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 2: part of that, of course his titles and lack of them. 888 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you want to add anyone 889 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: or agree with those disagree, But that's sort of like 890 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 2: where I'm thinking of Embiid and I know I'm talking 891 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: about it like he's done. 892 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: I don't think he is. 893 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 2: I don't think he is, but MVP Embiid probably, I 894 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: do believe that. 895 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 4: To me, the tam Mac comparison is the best one. 896 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 4: It was flying around in our chats and I thought 897 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 4: that was the most accurate one. We've got to get 898 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 4: that chat available for our fans to take part. Why 899 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,240 Speaker 4: the heck not people are doing it. It's a modern 900 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: day email threat. I mean, it's fun. It's I think 901 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: the most accurate comparison strictly because all that scoring, not 902 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 4: a lot of playoffs success at the top of the game. 903 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: Still Hall of Fame player. 904 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it feels like the requirements for 905 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame are definitely changing altering. What are they 906 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 4: It is difficult to tell, but I think Embiata is 907 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 4: gayer and teed to get in. I mean, if the 908 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: Choi doesn't get the bounce bounce, bounce bounce. Embiat is 909 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 4: in his first conference finals because he hasn't reached the 910 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 4: conference finals. So that's why the t MAC is perfect 911 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 4: to me. Obviously, a different type of player, like you're 912 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 4: you're Ewing. Comparison is is good in that light, that's 913 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, but Ewing gotta finals. Oh yeah, yeah, 914 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 4: I mean you can, yeah, you can. We can go 915 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: all day, that's for. 916 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: Sure, but hopefully comes back. Other injury news, Magic guard 917 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 2: gell And Suggs is going to undergo surgery to remove 918 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: a cartilage fragment in his left knee and he's out indefinitely. 919 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: A team announced a Sunday afternoon, so suggs return will 920 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: be based on how his rehab go. He's expected to 921 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: make a full recovery. But I don't know if we'll 922 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: see Sucks this regular season at all, maybe playoffs or 923 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: maybe we don't see him till next year. But this 924 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 2: really sucks obviously for the Magic because this guy, it's 925 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: pretty obvious. He's the heart and soul of this team. Like, 926 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: without him, they're a different team and we're not gonna 927 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: have him here for a long time. 928 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been following this closely because when he goes down, Yeah, 929 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 4: this team is so different. And so he was deemed 930 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,959 Speaker 4: to have a quad injury when he left the game 931 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 4: against the Pistons on January twenty fifth. He's been out 932 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 4: five weeks. It was a quad injury. So I was 933 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 4: just confused. I got into it and I'm looking down here, 934 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 4: and I know JD. You had to get off my 935 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 4: camera because he saw me looking down in my notes 936 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 4: because I need the pronunciation, the proper pronunciation of this 937 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 4: injury that he has. The troclia injury, I believe is 938 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 4: what they're calling it. The trocli is. It isn't a ligament, 939 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 4: it's not a muscle. Well, it's not a tendon. That's 940 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 4: the weird part. It's part of the fever bone. It's 941 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 4: it's the bottom of the femur bone, the fember connected 942 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: from the hip to the knee. It's the part that's 943 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 4: sort of underneath the patella. It's right at the bottom. 944 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 4: But it's part of the bone. And so it's odd 945 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 4: to call it that. I did the doctor Brian suitor 946 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 4: or check in and to see what he had to 947 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 4: say about the trocholia. But you've got the patella just 948 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 4: basically it slides over the trocolate. It's just the thing 949 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: that's underneath the patella. And when he went out with 950 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 4: that injury, he grabbed the back sort of like kind 951 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 4: of his hamstring. Yeah, and then yea, he put his 952 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 4: hand sort of over his knee and he kind of 953 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: ran into Kate Cummingham. And now they're thinking that it's 954 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 4: well there. I don't know what they're thinking, but to 955 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: say it's the trocolia. There's some cartilage behind the trocholia, 956 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 4: and that's what it could be. But it is just 957 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 4: a part of the bone where the patella slides up 958 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 4: and down. And it was Tuesday after a workout they said, okay, 959 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 4: it's not that quad injury he's got. There's a discomfort. 960 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 4: We got to do an MRI and the MRI revealed 961 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 4: that it's a chocolate injury. 962 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, he was close to returning. Like he was 963 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: playing like two on two. He's doing defensive like drills 964 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 2: and slides I read like, so he was probably ramping 965 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 2: up to come back, but then yeah, still had that discomfort, 966 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: still had the swelling. I guess in that knee area. 967 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 2: They're like, we better take a look at this again. 968 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: And this is where they found this out. I mean, 969 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 2: no better podcast right now could be explaining a knee 970 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 2: injury than a man sitting exposed on a toilet. I mean, 971 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: this is perfect. Yeah, you were breaking it down there, 972 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 2: you're the new doctor. 973 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 4: I don't realize that. As soon as I start breaking down, 974 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 4: it feels like I'm at a speakeasy. I open up 975 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 4: my legs and I shouldn't be doing that on a toilet, 976 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 4: Like I'm really digging in here to knowing what's going on. 977 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 4: I just forget sometimes I'm on a toilet and working 978 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 4: for the New York Times. The Athletic Anyway, it's a 979 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 4: shame because he had back spasms earlier season. He left 980 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 4: that Raptors game, was out early January for weeks, comes 981 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 4: back for one game, sustained what was deemed a quad injury, 982 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: and now it's the old troclia. So Brian's suitor MD 983 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 4: he was confused by what this trocholia injury is and 984 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 4: it just seems like it's something that's hopefully they found 985 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 4: out what's going on, but it just seems like the again, 986 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 4: the back spasms. It just seems like things are rolling here. 987 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 4: For Jalen Suggs, who said I hope to be back 988 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 4: later this season, and I knowpe guys say that all 989 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 4: the time. But with this guy who just plays through 990 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 4: injuries and you see him hobbling, I wouldn't be surprised 991 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 4: to see him back, hoping helping the magic in a 992 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 4: play in game, because that's what it seems like they're 993 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 4: destined to be. 994 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: They are sliding. Paolo Franz Wagner and Suggs appeared in 995 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: six games together this year. They played like one hundred 996 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: minutes together. 997 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 4: That's nuts. 998 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: They played pretty well like they were four and two. 999 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 2: Their minutes together were good, but just obviously one of 1000 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: them was always being up. It was Pallo first, and 1001 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 2: it was Fronds and then unfortunately of course it Sugs. 1002 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, you say he plays through injury. I'm with you, 1003 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 2: because he is a you know, a hard nosed player, 1004 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 2: but unfortunately for him, because he is so extreme and 1005 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: so locked in defensively, he picks up a lot of injuries. 1006 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: Like this is now This is really the third out 1007 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: of four seasons where he doesn't play a majority of 1008 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 2: games because he's always banged up because he plays so 1009 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: balls to the wall. Like last year was a good year. 1010 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 2: Last year was a pretty healthyer. I think he played 1011 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: seventy five games those first two years, and now this 1012 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: year where he's going to finish like easily under forty 1013 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: games played. That's sort of the thing with Sugs, Like 1014 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 2: it's the blessing in the curse with some of these guys, right, 1015 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 2: That's like they play so hard that they're prone to 1016 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 2: pick up a lot of these injuries and a lot 1017 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: of like knees and backs and stuff like that because 1018 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: they're always hitting the floor and locked in on the 1019 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: defensive end. 1020 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 4: Sucks, Yes, that's the very good Sugs. It does sucks, Suggs. 1021 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, he ran into Kate Counningham and it looked 1022 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 4: just like sort of a random maybe a knee on 1023 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 4: knee that he started grabbing his leg. But you're right, 1024 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 4: he plays extremely hard. I didn't think of here in 1025 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 4: year four the number of games that he's really missed, 1026 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 4: maybe because I just deem him as this hard nosed player. 1027 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 4: I think he plays a lot but this year obviously 1028 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: not so much. 1029 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to back up what I thought was true, 1030 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 2: and it is forty eight games played in his rookie season, 1031 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 2: fifty three, the next year seventy five, like I said, 1032 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 2: in year three, and then this year's he's at thirty five. 1033 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: So it might be thirty five to forty if he 1034 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: somehow comes back at the end of the regular season. 1035 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 2: But yeah, the way they're playing right now, you know, 1036 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 2: they might just have to be like, Okay, this was 1037 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 2: not really our year in terms of, you know, good health, 1038 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: and we have fallen and fallen. Maybe it's a play 1039 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 2: in battle or whatever, but maybe you just rest him 1040 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: and bring him back next year. We'll see, all right. 1041 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 2: Final piece of news we've been alluding to it all 1042 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: show steven A Smith. He spent a significant portion of 1043 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 2: screen time on Friday discussing Lebron james recent criticisms against 1044 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: how the league is covered across the major networks. Now 1045 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: have been watching because he fired some tweets off in 1046 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: response to steven A. But the back and forth started 1047 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 2: when Lebron spoke about the state of the NBA media 1048 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: following Thursday's game, outlining how there's like this weird energy 1049 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: amongst media members, and that's exactly why players like Anthony 1050 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 2: Edwards doesn't want to be considered the next face of 1051 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: the NBA. So that was Lebron's sort of reasoning, No, 1052 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: wonder Ant doesn't want to be face of the league. 1053 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 2: All you do is crap on the NBA. He's talking 1054 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 2: about you sort of your major networks in the NBA media. Naturally, 1055 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: this prompted Steven A to discuss Lebron's comments, and here 1056 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 2: we are tasked. I mean, this has been going on 1057 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: for a couple of days. Now, do you have any 1058 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on all of this? I guess, And whether you 1059 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: think there's some truth to what Lebron was saying or not, 1060 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 2: what do you think? 1061 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 4: Well, Lebron is one of the greats simply saying too 1062 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 4: much of the talk about the NBA is negative. He 1063 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 4: just wants more positive about an incredible sport. I think 1064 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 4: that's what he's implying. Now. It's it's definitely different in 1065 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 4: proportion social media versus TV, because I don't think TV 1066 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 4: is as much as social media and social media, we 1067 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 4: know what gets amplified. It's the negative stuff. So that 1068 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 4: has become more popular. Yeah, to speak negatively about it. 1069 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 4: I would say it is a higher portion on social media. 1070 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 4: So for steven A to say, hey, he's talking about me, 1071 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 4: and he didn't address Stephen A. Smith. And I know 1072 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 4: Stephen A. Smith has made a very very popular show 1073 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 4: because of the takes, because of a lot of negativity, 1074 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 4: and that's how you get people coming back on first take. 1075 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 4: And I am I promoting it now? I guess so. But 1076 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 4: there is a lot of that talk on his show 1077 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 4: and he's made it more popular because of it. So yes, 1078 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 4: I will say, though you know he went on to 1079 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 4: say Lebron has a media company too, doesn't mean he 1080 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 4: speaks negatively about the sport. His media is all about 1081 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 4: breaking down plays. It's all about pinned downs, double screens, 1082 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 4: the way the game is played, the positivity about it. 1083 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 4: Which when I say that, you might think, oh, that's 1084 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 4: not going to get anybody watching shows. And that's the 1085 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 4: unfortunate part. And I think that's what Lebron was saying, 1086 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 4: is that those beautiful parts of the game should be 1087 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 4: talked about more. I think it's as simple as that. 1088 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 4: Because I heard that on Thursday night, I came back 1089 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 4: into our Friday show. I didn't think a thing of it. 1090 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,879 Speaker 4: When Lebron had that interview, Maybe it's because our show 1091 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 4: doesn't do what Steven A. Smith does and doesn't do 1092 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 4: what a lot of the negativity out there is about. 1093 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 4: That's partly, you know, me patting myself on the back. 1094 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 4: But I just think that that's all he's saying, and 1095 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 4: it is unfortunate. That's the whole picture, I think. And 1096 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 4: when he went on and talked with Scott Van Pelt 1097 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,879 Speaker 4: after the Clippers game, he was interviewed about it, he 1098 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 4: really respected Scott Van Pelt. He said he knows that 1099 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 4: Scott Van Pelt just talks about the cool things about 1100 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 4: the game, and he'll talk about things off the court, 1101 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 4: but he will Now now I'm deeming SVP. I'm a 1102 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 4: great broadcaster because he is, yes, and he just not 1103 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 4: only talks about the game, but he talks about things 1104 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 4: off the court. But he doesn't really get negative about stuff. 1105 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 4: And so that's all Lebron's saying. I don't think that's 1106 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 4: there's really any harm in what he said. 1107 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we usually avoid this stuff because it very quickly 1108 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 2: becomes an echo chamber, this shit because it's like it's like, 1109 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you see it, how it happens here like 1110 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: this is like this is everything for steven A. He 1111 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 2: wants to hear this criticism because then he can just 1112 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: do another twenty minutes. 1113 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 4: On it and then you get because it really wasn't 1114 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 4: yeah right right. 1115 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 2: I mean, like I think we can infer that Lebron 1116 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 2: when he was saying these comments, he did mean probably 1117 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 2: stephen A, probably ESPN to some extent. The hot take 1118 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 2: shows probably inside the NBA because there's always been like, ah, 1119 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: these guys don't actually like the game. I'm talking about 1120 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 2: Barkley and Shaq and Kenny, and it feels like they're 1121 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 2: the ones always crapping on today's game. Like Okay, it's 1122 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 2: all this stuff that's been said a million times. But 1123 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: the other part of this is like, Okay, the NBA media. 1124 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: It's not the entirety of the NBA media that hates 1125 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: the NBA. It's like what you're saying, it's just what 1126 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 2: gets like amplified because unfortunately that's what people care about 1127 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 2: and like them to share. I guess that negative sort 1128 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 2: of connotation, but you know, this is also the classic 1129 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 2: like I wrote a blog for a long time, man, 1130 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 2: I get it. You write something or like we do 1131 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 2: a podcast. I mean, just use that as an example. 1132 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 2: You'll get a hundred to you know, a thousand people 1133 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 2: say I like this take, I like this blog post, 1134 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 2: I like this podcast. That's a great take. Task in 1135 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 2: a toilet hat. You get a thousand of those, right, 1136 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 2: but you get one comment that it's like I hate 1137 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: that you suck whatever, and like that is like just 1138 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 2: the human nature is like you're like focus on that 1139 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 2: and for whatever reason you disregard the thousand of compliments 1140 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 2: or positive things. And I think that happened. That happens 1141 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 2: with everything in today's society, with today's internet and social media. 1142 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 2: Like that's just that's just the way it is. But 1143 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 2: I will say the Lebron the one thing I don't 1144 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 2: like about Lebron comments is like I think this whole 1145 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 2: face of the league thing, these are really two separate things, 1146 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 2: like the crapping on the league and crapping on the 1147 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 2: NBA and then the face of the league. And that's 1148 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 2: why Ant doesn't want it. I don't. I don't think 1149 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: those are actually one and the same, Like you don't, 1150 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 2: don't you don't get to pick who is the face 1151 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 2: of the league, right, Like that does sort of happen organically, 1152 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 2: and it's been Lebron. Maybe you believe it's Steph Curry, 1153 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 2: but really it's been Lebron for the last like twenty years. 1154 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 2: And then we're gonna see who it's gonna become. After 1155 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: Lebron is finally done kicking ass at basketball, he's still amazing. 1156 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: But like, you don't really pick. That's how it works, 1157 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 2: Like we don't say that's the guy now, Like it 1158 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 2: might be women Yama, it might be Anthony Edwards, it 1159 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 2: might be somebody else. Hell might be the Thompson Twins 1160 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 2: for all we know, Like we don't know, and it 1161 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 2: just sort of happens organically. Big part of course is 1162 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 2: playoff success in championships. I think you have to have 1163 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 2: to have those, but then you have to have something 1164 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: else about you that people click with, be it your 1165 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 2: personality or whatever. Yeah, so that that part was a 1166 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 2: little straight to me that Lebron was trying to sort 1167 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 2: of jam in there. 1168 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, hear what you're saying. I think if 1169 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 4: he was to specify when you are ridiculed by the 1170 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 4: media and when that's fades away, I think it's when 1171 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 4: you don't win at the first part of your career. 1172 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 4: People were all over Lebron getting swept in the finals 1173 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: and seven, and. 1174 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 2: People were all over Michael Jordan and people were all 1175 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: over doctor J Like, I mean. 1176 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's nothing new. 1177 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you just have to win. I don't think 1178 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 4: you really have to have a ton of personality even 1179 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 4: or you change the game. I mean Steph, I don't 1180 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 4: think he's really extremely well known about everything he does 1181 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 4: off the floor, but he changed the way that the 1182 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 4: shot is made, the way three point shots are done. 1183 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,439 Speaker 4: So there's that. I mean, you just have to win 1184 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 4: and then you get the limelight and then people stop 1185 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 4: ridiculing you, people stop hating you, and yeah, Lebron just 1186 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 4: needs I think Lebron should say that. I think they 1187 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,439 Speaker 4: should have a breakdown. I mean, that's what his media 1188 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,919 Speaker 4: company is great for, break it down. 1189 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 2: He started his own podcast to at least address what 1190 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 2: he thought was a vacuum in the space. 1191 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 4: Right Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's like what Kobe 1192 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 4: did with ESPN when he was doing the details. It 1193 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 4: was called detail right, miss mis remembering when he was 1194 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 4: getting into just breaking down footage, breaking down each play. 1195 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 4: But it's hard work. 1196 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 3: It's hard work. 1197 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 4: To do that. 1198 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: It's hard work and it's not going to be for everyone. Yeah, 1199 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 2: and that's fair too, Like this is the whole point. 1200 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 2: There's going to be all these lanes for people. There's 1201 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 2: going to be a podcast where a guy can sit 1202 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 2: on a toilet wearing a toilet hat, breaking it down, 1203 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 2: breaking down the knee structure and the groove of the trocolia. 1204 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it is so interesting. 1205 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 3: Then there's that may not be for you. Guess what 1206 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 3: there's The good thing is there's basketball. 1207 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 4: There's that type of stuff, and yes there is both. 1208 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 4: And I get why people are all over and here. 1209 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 4: Before he finishes or before he wins, I'm already deeming 1210 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,919 Speaker 4: him as a winner. But you know, if he gets 1211 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 4: to that point, then I think people stop and just 1212 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 4: all right, everybody here is saying he's great, then I 1213 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 4: got to say it too, and so there's less of 1214 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 4: the oh this guy sucks that part of it. But yeah, 1215 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 4: I think Lebron yes, calling it just a weird vibe, 1216 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 4: a weird energy energy. Yeah, I mean it really has changed, 1217 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 4: you know since we started potting this. I do you 1218 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 4: know it's weird. I guess you can call it weird. 1219 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 4: But there's it's just what's amplified since Lebron because our 1220 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 4: careers here are kind of like in the same era 1221 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 4: as Lebron since we started. Yeah, people weren't like this, 1222 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 4: but the game has changed, you know midway through is 1223 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 4: well I guess I wasn't midway through his career, but yeah, 1224 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 4: people started to hate Lebron, but then they had to 1225 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 4: like him. 1226 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 3: But there's still people, Oh there are. 1227 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 2: But when you're the best, you're gonna have vaters for sure, 1228 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 2: at least one of the best. All right, let's tell 1229 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 2: what everybody thinks out there in the stream team, in 1230 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 2: the YouTube, comments, on Twitter, on all those social media channels. 1231 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 2: Let us know, okay, pick them. We start with a 1232 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 2: clean slate, like you just wipe that ass tasks. Maybe 1233 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 2: you got a bidet in there for all I know, 1234 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, did you install the JD in there? No? 1235 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 4: No, not yet, not yet. 1236 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 2: What's it called the Tushy? 1237 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 4: Is that one of them popular one the brand name? 1238 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something I think there is one called Tushy. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, 1239 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 2: we're zero and zero is my point tasks for the 1240 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 2: month of March. So what's our game here today? 1241 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to Portland visiting Philadelphia. Now we got 1242 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 4: some other good ones. We've got a Rockets game, Rockets Thundering, 1243 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 4: Rockets thunder. But Portland visiting Philly is interesting to me. 1244 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 4: Philly's favored by three and a half. I actually think 1245 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 4: that's a big line. It feels too big for me 1246 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 4: because Portland is kicking. But they just had a great 1247 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 4: game against the Cleveland Cavaliers where they almost won. Yep, 1248 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 4: they're playing extremely Shade and sharp is playing out at 1249 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 4: this world right now. They're looking to make the play 1250 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 4: in their five games out. It seems like it's a 1251 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 4: little too far, but I think the race for eleventh 1252 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 4: is real them in Phoenix. 1253 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: I think they it's for eleventh Haang the banner. 1254 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 4: They could easily pass Phoenix. So I'm taking them tonight, 1255 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 4: as are U Stats and Trey and Esh. They're taking 1256 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 4: the Sixers to win by four or more while we've 1257 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 4: got a few points to play with. 1258 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Yep, we're split on this one. Makes sense. I think 1259 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: you can talk yourself into either of these teams, either 1260 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 2: covering in Philly's case or Portland getting it done because 1261 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 2: they have played really, really well over this last couple 1262 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: of weeks. So I'm with you, which I'm a little 1263 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 2: afraid of because you had a really rough Oh that 1264 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 2: that was a very rough February. 1265 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've I've now lost two months this season. 1266 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 4: You've lost one. Trey has lost. 1267 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: No, I lost too, didn't they? 1268 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah a pumpkin pot. Yeah, and I was in the bookshelf. 1269 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, we did one for October. We weren't 1270 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 4: messing around. 1271 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 2: We've all lost except Esh. He hasn't lost one yet. 1272 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to get Esh in there. 1273 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get Esh. Come on, let's get them, Let's 1274 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 2: get him an ol. You mentioned that game, you mentioned 1275 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 2: the Rockets Thunder game. Some good ones on tonight. Decent schedule, 1276 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: and you never know it, right, you look at it 1277 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 2: and that's not the most exciting. Then we get good 1278 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 2: games or good performances and suddenly all we're all hyped 1279 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 2: on tomorrow show. But we're gonna be on playback tonight 1280 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 2: for an hour or so, probably starting around probably nine 1281 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 2: pm Eastern, let's call it tonight. Might jump on a 1282 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 2: little earlier than that, but that link is in the 1283 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 2: show notes. If you want to calm, hang out with 1284 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 2: the Nodunk's crew and watch some games seven games on Total, 1285 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: but we'll probably catch the ending, a lot of the 1286 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: first games, maybe catch some of the Rockets, thunder Kings, 1287 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Maths and so on. So hopefully you'll join us on 1288 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 2: playback tonight. If not, we will see you here tomorrow. 1289 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Some of us from the Classic Factory, some of us 1290 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 2: from the John Like tasses right now, still got feeling 1291 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 2: in your legs. 1292 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 3: No, sir, I'm gonna fall over what he stands on. 1293 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was gonna stand mid show, just loosen the legs, 1294 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 4: but I didn't really want to show everything to the camera. 1295 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 3: How's the how's your neck too? 1296 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Because I've tried on the toilet hat and it's you know, 1297 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: it's made a foam, but it's I don't know if 1298 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: it's it's like because of the tank. 1299 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: It's like it's a little heavy at the back. 1300 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 4: I feel like, Yeah, I literally I just came from 1301 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 4: the gym. I pick up this toilet. I just think, oh, 1302 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 4: that's this light, and I put it on my head 1303 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,919 Speaker 4: and I need to go for a neck workout today. Yeah, 1304 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 4: strengthen it. It seems so light when you pick it up, 1305 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 4: but on ahead it's very quite different. Yeah, I guess 1306 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 4: it is. It looks so good, as you said, the 1307 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 4: basin at the back, Yeah, it's it's way too back heavy. 1308 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 2: It's back heavy for sure. So yeah, painful. 1309 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 3: We care for tests well. 1310 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 2: Sitting on the can talking about the NBA. 1311 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough. 1312 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: It's tough, all right. Guys, Thank you so much for 1313 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 2: joining us until tomorrow. 1314 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Comeer bro, you heard it here first, have a great time, 1315 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 3: turn up. 1316 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome. 1317 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember the trocolia is where 1318 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 4: the kneecap moves onto the femur. It just slides back 1319 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 4: and forth, and this is the sound it makes. I 1320 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 4: just I just think that my is going to crack. 1321 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 4: So it's not the tropolate, but it's a knee cracking. 1322 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 4: I think. Here we go. Oh man, need to come 1323 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 4: this week. 1324 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 3: Embrace the tap of Holy Crown.