1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why? And look 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, culture Resta's calling. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: This one takes me all the way back. This one. 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: We're about to unlock some memories. A Loha mora, I 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: say the girls might as well be saying aloha mora, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: because when it comes to unlocking memories, we're casting the spells. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Harry Potter. Let's have the referendum right here, 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: right now on Harry Potter, yes or no, right now 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: in the next three minutes, we're going to decide the 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: fate of Harry Potter and the culture going forward, and 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: it has to happen here on Lost Cultures. It is 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a classic example of person who was able to like 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: fictionalize morality in such a way that um, they lost 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: touch with their own moral that's internally after getting massive wealth. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Where is the movie about that? Do we even want 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: to see it? I think the biopic of J. K 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Rowling already exists, and it is Tracy almand as Renee's 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: larger play J. K Rowling. It is the iconic sketch 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: of all time. It really is so good and also 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: it's like so Tracy Elman plays Rene's Lager, and she's 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: doing an insane Rene's Lager, and then she does Renee's 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Elwager as J. K Rowling. It's a really good impression 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: of what you think Rene's lager would be as J. 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: K Rowling's levels to this ship. Anyway, that's my little 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: cursory assessment of the culture for Harry Potter at this time, 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: and I'm happy you were the final voice on it 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: because now there's no more discussion to be had. Actually, 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: there is a little one last thing before we move on. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: There's this game called, Oh, is it like Hogwarts. It's 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: called History. No, it's called Hogwarts Legacy. Oh, it's like 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Roney Legacy. It's not Roney Legacy. It's it's Hogwarts Legacy. 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: It's a prequel that place decades before Harry Potter steps 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: onto the world stage The Boy Who Lived. But it's 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Hogwarts like in the fifties, sixties, seventies, I want to say, 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: somewhere in that time. But it's open world, which means 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you can like literally go in any direction and there's 37 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: you can engage with the world. This game hasn't been 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: in development for years, and they keep rolling out these 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: videos and I gotta say, I'm like annoyed. I'm annoyed 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: at the way these developers are sounding so smug and 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: proud of this game that like is truly probably gonna 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: be bad. I'm gonna I'm gonna say on this podcast, 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this game, but I'm not gonna like it. 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: But it's only because I have a deep sentimental connection 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: to the Harry Potter video games on PC. I'm start 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: I'm getting so grand are but you're also very You're 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: you're really active on video games right now because you 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: were deep in your Pokemon and you are some mother 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: for that. You are so mother for that and named 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: my character mother of course. Um I just come up 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: with the Housewives taifine for Harry Potter. Do you want 52 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: to hear it? Yeah? I might be the boy who lived, 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: but now I'm the man who's living. Oh my god, 54 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: here's one for Ron Weasley. Will be your side kick, 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: but I will not be your side piece. Whose side 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: piece was? But he's just I don't know, but this 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: is like in a world where he's someone's side piece. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: What's good for Hermione? I got brains and beauty and 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: that's more than I can say for you. Yeah, that's good, 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: sort of, that's really good. No, that's really good. I'm 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: trying to think. Um, Draco Mouthoy called me a mud blood, 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: but he's the one wh will be spilling blood. Wow, 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: that's so mean. Bow, you're gonna kill him. What's a 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: good one for Baltimore? And then we'll bring in the guests? Mmmmmmmmm. 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it deserves you know what, Baltimore doesn't 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: even deserve a Housewives tap fine, and that's actually culture 67 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: number ten. Baltimore doesn't even deserve. Did you see that? 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: It happens? Rape fines did as more at Lisa Barlow. 69 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: She talked half of New York. It was excellent. It 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: was excellent. Our guest is clutching her double palming her mound. 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: She has not moved from the stands, and it's so 72 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: her like essential gesture, it's so her essence. Readers, we've 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: known this person for over ten years now, wild, isn't 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: it wild to think of it that way? Yes? And 75 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I've since the first day I ever met her. I thought, well, 76 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: that's obviously one of the most talented people I've star 77 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: so cut to now I can't believe this. The Oscar buzz. 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: She just covered her face, but come on, bitch, you 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: know what the fun is happening. I so I didn't 80 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: realize this, but I go on the site, you know, 81 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the sites, the sites, and we're seeing her name constantly predicted. 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I was like, stuh, Like it's obviously deserving, but it's 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: just crazy to see your friend listed there. And I've 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: experienced this with you well, and and look where that 85 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: got us nowhere what to several nominations? Shut up? Can 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: I say something right now? Shut up? You're right, You're 87 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: so right. Everything everywhere you've seen it by now, surely 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: you've seen it. And I'm saying I'm saying to the reader, 89 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I saw it three times? You did? I saw it 90 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: grading that Daniels happened to be in town. We got 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: a lovely breakfast. It wasn't even one of those Hollywood 92 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: things where I was like, I would love to be 93 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: in your next project. It was literally me being like 94 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: I need to process this with you, like this wasn't 95 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: This was one of my favorite movies of all time. 96 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I still believe this to be true. What a great 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: year for movies. I am gonna say, really a good 98 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: strong year. And I will say this, out of everything 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 1: I've seen so far this year, and I have seen everything, 100 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: but out of everything I've seen so far this year, 101 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: like just involuntarily and suddenly moved too intense state of weeping. 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the scene where Kiwa Kwan is like, 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: you have to be kind when when he said you 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: have to be kind bowen, I swear to God, Like 105 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: either way, I was sobbing in a mess. You have 106 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: not experienced impact, emotional impact in your life anything like 107 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: being a queer Asian person watching this movie and seeing 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the scene in the parking lot just or just the 109 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: whole thing just is so it's just so perfect and 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: oh my god, we've already gotten to tell our friend 111 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: our guests how proud we are, how in all we are. 112 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: I mean I was like always, not just always, but 113 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: there was something so powerful special about watching her walk 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: down this hallway in all these different outfit changes while 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: the lights flicker, and I'm like, holy shit, I know 116 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: that person. Well it's not even that, it's like whoever 117 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: this person is, she is like the fucking villain of 118 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: this and she's a fucking megastar, mega star to say 119 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: nothing of like the fact that like this is this 120 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: is someone who we love. Yes, it's also the most 121 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Steph Shoe movie of all time and I have to 122 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: say so many things to her about it. And we 123 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: got a fact is we're going to get the opportunities too. 124 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: Right now, Please welcome finally to Lost Culture. Is this 125 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: podcast the one the only study ship? Take your hands 126 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: off your mouth? Oh my god, you guys. I really yeah, 127 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I've been clutching my face because I'm smiling so big 128 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: and just giggling. And honestly, when I listened to this 129 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: podcast when I'm on like long drives or whatever, like 130 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: those motherfuckers my friends just giggling and I don't know 131 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: how y'all are so witty. I just don't even know. 132 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I love. My year was running into you with the 133 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: damn Clark Street Diner where everything was amazing. People name 134 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: drop you guys to me, not knowing that we know 135 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: each other, and it makes me feel hot inside, like 136 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: it's sexy. You know, I'm like, oh, you mean Matt, 137 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Matt Roger's Long Island's very own. Also, I not to 138 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: call you out, but your Long Island really came out 139 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and j K Rowling, I don't know what it is, 140 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: but there was something about how you were saying, Rowling, Rowling, 141 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: you have the ear for absence. This has always been 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: true in the air for everything, and that's can I say. 143 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: When I watched this movie Everything Everywhere all at once 144 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: and there was the whole thing about the bagel, putting 145 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: everything on a bagel, I'm like, if that isn't stuff shoe, 146 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is like when you read 147 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: this script where you're not like, holy fuck, like it 148 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: must have been like insane Terita and be like, because 149 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: you so spiritually are this movie, yeah, well, you know 150 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: it's funny. I've had a lot of people like ex partners, 151 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: specifically will you come out of the woodwork, And they've 152 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: been like, this movie is so your essence, and it 153 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: does make me feel quite seen. When I first met 154 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: the Daniels on Norah's show at Bowen's Show Aguafine is 155 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: More from Queen's, I felt like I met soulmates um, 156 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: and I think so when I read the script for 157 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Everything Everywhere, it just it did really click. And recently 158 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the Daniels Um we were at this like film festival 159 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and they showed my audition clip. It's really smash it really, 160 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: They asked me beforehand, and I said, I'm not going 161 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: to watch it because I want to be surprised. It 162 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: just don't make me look bad, you know. But what 163 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: was so crazy was when I watched it was the 164 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: big goal introduction monologue, and I the first thing I 165 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: said after I saw it in a public space, I 166 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: was like, I really got this movie. I don't know 167 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: why I really understood it. It's probably not coincidental. No, 168 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: it feels very This movie has a lot of um 169 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Key's wife, Echo is our was our translator. She's amazing 170 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: and she after our first table read, she said, you know, 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: this script has a very strong soul and it has 172 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: gathered all the souls and like minded souls to tell 173 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: it okay, um okay, Hello. It's also reached a lot 174 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: of souls. I can't think of a movie like this 175 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: um in recent memory, and I don't. I guess I don't. 176 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest and if I don't have the 177 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: context for it. But like, I feel like there hasn't 178 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: been a movie like this where like people really there's 179 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: there's a pretty universal everyone's on the same page about this. 180 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, even people who hate it. I feel like 181 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: understand what it's trying to do and can appreciate it. 182 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: I had. There was a man who came up to 183 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: me in Nappa. I was, okay, you know this is 184 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: for the fans, um, this is the tone of the podcast. Um. 185 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: But it was at Nappa Film Festival, and this man 186 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: came up to me after the screening and he's like, 187 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, I love you and marvelous Mrs Masiel. But 188 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I gotta say, as a as a older white man, 189 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: you know that was hard for me. That was I 190 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: really I just couldn't wait to get out. And then 191 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: he said, but you know, my wife's Filipino, so there's that. 192 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, thank you for being honest, 193 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and it's okay, Like not everything is supposed to be 194 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: for everybody, um, and yet we're the one And then 195 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: yet were supposedly like we're the kinds of people who 196 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: are like obsessed with identity politics. But meanwhile this guy 197 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: is leading with my wife's Philip. Yeah. Also, like if 198 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I hear like a criticism of the movie from people, 199 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: it's that it's a lot, right, But then also that's 200 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: like intrinsically what the point is it is about? Like 201 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: finding something very simple in the volume, you know what 202 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, that's what I loved about it so much. 203 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: And we had Michelle on the podcast, which was such 204 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: an honor, I mean, and like we'll get into what 205 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: it was like to you know, work with her. But 206 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I think that that's something that, especially the second time 207 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: I watched it, not on the edible, I was able 208 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: to really find what's like, Wow, really, what this is 209 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: is a very simple story about family and love. And 210 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: I think that the sort of like I guess if 211 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: there's a metaphor is that it can feel like there's 212 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: a lot more, but really what's actually important is very simple, 213 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: and it's about love and connection and this is a 214 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: story about family and specifically in any way is finding 215 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: each other again through so much change, which can feel 216 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: very loud. I don't know if that's like me being 217 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: simplistic about it, Yes, totally, And I mean this has 218 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: been a really freaking crazy year, but I feel I 219 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: couldn't like shake hands with Hollywood in any more honest 220 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: of a way because this is so much you know, 221 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: this is I do want movies like this to exist 222 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: and I and I feel it's been really healing actually 223 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: to see that it works, or that people still have 224 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: room to be surprised or show up to a movie theater, 225 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: leave their house gathered together, or you know, have a 226 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: cultural moment together in a time when you know we're 227 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: so inundated. So you know how I've always been up 228 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: been like you know, the business wants me, but I 229 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I want it. But that's very real though. 230 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: I Mean that's my thing with step is like it 231 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: really has always felt like you don't give a funk 232 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: about this, like in a real way, like really refreshing. Thanks. 233 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: I think you were very much a role model, even 234 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: though we're like all on the same cohort. Like Steph 235 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: was someone who reader probably like keyed into something like 236 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: was getting a lot of great opportunities and really meeting 237 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: the occasion, rising to the occasion always obviously um, but 238 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: it was so refreshing to like from afar or check 239 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: in with you, and you'd always be like, yeah, I 240 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know, like this isn't all it's cracked up to be. 241 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: But that wasn't like withered or like cynical. It was 242 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: just like I know my boundaries so well. I'm such 243 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: a defined person within myself and like that is a 244 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: that is a special thing. But it's so cool to 245 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: so you keep that and like that's so, that's so 246 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: beautiful that you say that you couldn't have asked to 247 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: shake hands with Hollywood in a more honest way, because 248 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: not everybody gets that. People shake hands with HOLLYO for 249 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: the first time in ways that are very cloaked in 250 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: a lot of bullshit. Yeah, totally. Also for the listeners, 251 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: nobody knows that. Well maybe they do, I don't know. Well, 252 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: we all went to college together. Yeah, well we made 253 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: a big trust me when we saw the movie. We 254 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: made a huge deal about the fact that you were 255 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: so well, no I heard you roasted me. I's because 256 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Mama did not respond to a text for like four hours. 257 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: But that's going to be my cultural moment that oh, 258 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in it. Well put but I 259 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: just want to say, like I'm kind of cloaked in 260 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: darkness right now, so you can't see the tears that's eyes. 261 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: But Steph, I'm literally just I'm And this is what 262 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean by like, you've always like known what to 263 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: do for you and you've always like really followed like 264 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: what your spirit was telling you to do. Because do 265 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: you remember, do you remember when we had lunch in 266 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: Hayden Hall, And so I was the director of hammer 267 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: Cats and you were in the sketch group of Hammercats 268 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: with me, and you wanted to get lunch with me, 269 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: and you were telling me that you were gonna step 270 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: away from the group because you wanted to do a 271 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: different type of thing. And I was, of course disappointed 272 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: that you would leave the group because you were always 273 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: so much fun to be around and you always like 274 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: killed everything and you were my friend. But then we 275 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: actually got into a discussion about like, you know, what 276 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: it is we wanted in life. And I remember like 277 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: like it was like involuntary, but I like really I 278 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: like broke down at that lunch and you said something 279 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: to me that I always remember, and you said, you 280 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: know it hurts so much because you know you can 281 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: do it. And I was like, I I you said that, 282 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: and I always I always remembered that, and so like yeah, 283 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: and so just like you know, having like you, someone 284 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: so talented that I believed in so much to like 285 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: sort of tell me that you believed in me was 286 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: like very very important to me, and so like it's 287 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: not a surprise to me, and I actually feel very 288 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: like emotional right now, like as we're all doing like 289 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: quote unquote, well, but are also very happy and fulfilled 290 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: in the things that we're doing. That that's true because 291 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's not true for everybody, and so I 292 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: am just so proud of you. When I'm so excited 293 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: for you, I can't believed. I know, I'm just like, 294 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's just a lot going on. I mean, 295 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: both of you. I mean, that's the thing. Did you 296 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: just say there's a lot going well? I just really 297 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. Like I've also i mean 298 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: we haven't gotten into it yet, but I've also been 299 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: thinking about Lise a lot. Oh, let's wade us. Oh 300 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: my god, I was reflecting on this too. I mean, 301 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: you know, before we even get into all that stuff, 302 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I just have to say, y'all, both of you are 303 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm getting emotional. You two have always 304 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: been the hardest working people. I know, seriously, Like I 305 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: just remember, you know, we were romping around skid More. 306 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: We're not we were all such a messy, messy horse 307 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: that was there that bored this way by Lady Gaga came, 308 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, but letting everyone know that because he came 309 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: out of the fst of all that was the year 310 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: before you did come out of the ski more was. 311 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: But but you too. Seriously, I mean to see both 312 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: of you rise, but also rise together and a part 313 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: has been so inspiring. And I feel like you two 314 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: actually because I think, honestly, some some of my distance 315 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: from the industry, I think growing up was because I 316 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: just never saw a place for myself in it. And 317 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: so I think that right now, I'm I'm going through 318 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: this moment where I feel like I actually have dreams 319 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: for the first time for myself, and you know, I'm like, 320 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: oh man, this is really possible. And in so many ways, 321 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: I actually think I didn't necessarily really I believed in 322 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: myself as a human and as a soul on this planet, 323 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't necessarily believe in myself as an artist 324 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: in the world. Um. And I feel like you two, 325 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: from the very beginning have always seen what I couldn't 326 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: even see in myself. And I also saw in both 327 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: of you how hard you worked because you loved the 328 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: thing that you do and you just defied all odds 329 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: time and time again, and it's just crazy, like it's 330 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: just so crazy and also not crazy to see both 331 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: of you where you are and you make it seem 332 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: so easy. But nobody knows the Matt Rogers in college 333 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: who was cranking out new pages every single week for 334 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Catch group, like nobody's business. You have always been prolific 335 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: in a way that I just uh is beyond me. 336 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: So well. I did want to mention one thing, which 337 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: was bo and I've told you this, but like I 338 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't gotten to say this stuff yet. 339 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: But the original everything everywhere, all at once was a 340 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: sketch I wrote for Stephanie, which was do you remember Flower? 341 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: I will never forget Florida everything for me, So that 342 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: there was a sketch that we did. It was it 343 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: was me frantically looking at looking for my son. So 344 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: it was like it was like me, this is of everything, 345 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: every all at once, and I think we did it 346 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: with Jack Quaid to like I think David Sitarov would 347 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: did it, and then we did it with Jack later. 348 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: But um, it was like it was like me friendly 349 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: looking for my son and describing my son, and my 350 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: son was like all genders, all heights, all weights, all races, 351 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: all things, and then like and like I had different 352 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: traits and stuff, and he was like the person was like, what, 353 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: like describe your son, like we can't find him if 354 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: your son is not everything. And then Steph walked in 355 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: like like literally just like as Large, which was the 356 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: name of this child. But she had like one long 357 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: arm and a good titty on her head and like 358 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, at least things like every prop in the closet, 359 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: and she was like she just made this like weird 360 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: Steph noise, and but that was the original everything everywhere, 361 00:20:53,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: all was everything, everywhere, all was Yeah, really, I'm Matt. 362 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: Matt wrote for me not only flowered but also moose. 363 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know which bone is in that videos. No, No, 364 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: that's already you're being gst towards Asians. And who is 365 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: like in Brooklyn, who's still like hanging out? Well, we 366 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: had some fun folks. I just got copy with my 367 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: expense the other week, and it was just we picked 368 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: up as if we had never picked up right where 369 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: we left off, and it had been years since I 370 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: had seen it in person, and it was just a 371 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: moment of like, wow, this is like this is an 372 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: important time in our lives and I'm glad that like 373 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: and I did express him. I was like, I do 374 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: have some guilt every now and then of like not 375 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: keeping up enough, and you don't neither of you need 376 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: to like affirm this or be like yeah, me too, 377 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: but like I feel like I've sort of like done 378 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: a bad job of like done a bad drop up. 379 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: I just I have not like, man, those relationships are 380 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: like cultivated them in a way that like I've not 381 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: watered them in a way that they deserve watering, because 382 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: those are those are people who really were your support 383 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: system in that time, helped you along the way, taught 384 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: you things you didn't you didn't know before. I love 385 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: those people. I actually I was just literally having that 386 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: thought while I was driving here and because I was 387 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: thinking about what my cultural rant was going to be. 388 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, it's hard to keep up 389 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: with people, and we're inundated with information and our thumbs 390 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: can only do so much, and there's only enough hours 391 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: in the day. And I try to be gentle with 392 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: myself because there are so many people that I love 393 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: so deeply, and I wish sometimes, I guess this is 394 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: what reunions are for, but I wish sometimes you could 395 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: just be in a space together and really dive deep 396 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: because how are you gonna I'm not like a when 397 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: people ask me how are you on a text message, 398 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I get stressed. I do. I 399 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: get stressed because I want to be so it is. 400 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: I want to be thoughtful in my answer, and I 401 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: also want to hold space for the other person's answer. 402 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: So if I don't have like so I know because 403 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: I probably asked, like what's going on, she's like, how 404 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: do I where do I go on? How are you 405 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: doing with because the movie is something that you guys 406 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: shot in before the pandemic, it comes out and you're 407 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: basically doing some version of campaigning will call it until 408 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: for the rest of Awards season, Like this is a lot. 409 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Because I was thinking about this, I'm like, I wonder 410 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: how stuff feels about this in terms of talking about 411 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the maybe thinking at the movie. I'm sure it's like 412 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: incredible as an experience, but also like I don't know 413 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: how you feel mad, but I feel like the whole 414 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: cycle of Fire Island coming out is like a distant dream. 415 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: It's so far away in my past and yet like 416 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: for depending on the project for something like this, for 417 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: you step, it's like you are really sitting in this 418 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: for like a pretty long amount of time. Yeah, it's 419 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: been honestly a roller coaster. And I remember Jamie Lee 420 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Curtis said to me after she saw it for the 421 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: first time when we were all at south By Southwest. 422 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: She was she like clutched me by the shoulders, and 423 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: I was like, just stay centered and um, this is 424 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be a mind fuck and a wild ride 425 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: for you. And I was like, Jamie, I'm a grown 426 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: ass woman, Like, listen first, this is on my first rodeo. Also, 427 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: I was on my whale. I was on my whale. 428 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: I was on my way to go reunite with three 429 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: of my best friends that I hadn't seen because of 430 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: the pandemic, and we were going to go watch whales 431 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: give birth and migrate north. And she was like, I'm 432 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: so happy You're going to be with whales. I'm like, yeah, 433 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: I me too, And and you're going to be with 434 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: the whales also feels like the most Jamie Lee Curtis thing. 435 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, um, but I had no idea what 436 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: she meant. And I honestly, as as centered as I 437 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: do feel, there's been a lot of whiplash, Like the 438 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: highs are high, the lows are low. It makes you 439 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: it's just confusing, um and I feel like it's a 440 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: hard thing that not a lot of people relate to. Also, 441 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: of just um having a pop off moment, I will 442 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: say that I was surprised when it there was a 443 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: recent moment. I was filming in Australia and it's a 444 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: crazy time difference, and it was the first time that 445 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: I've been actually completely alone for the last year, and like, 446 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: the time difference is so crazy. So when I'm awake, 447 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: everybody's sleeping, so I couldn't even work during the day 448 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: because everybody's paused. And and I think I was having 449 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: a whiplash of I've been going and going and going, 450 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: and it finally just stopped and I hit like a 451 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: I got really sad. I got really sad actually, and um, 452 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: I had to Hey, I'm glad that I hit that 453 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: moment because I've had to zoom. I've been able to 454 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: zoom out and understand the longevity of this film is 455 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: so much more. I'm speaking really abstractly. No, we're with you, 456 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: We're with you. Yeah, I just you know this ship 457 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: some I had a driver call it Holly weird and 458 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: Holly weird. It's holly weird, and you know, I it 459 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: affects you, and I have been affective. Not everything, not 460 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: any element of it is what you think of it's 461 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like you see the 462 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: business element of it and like the promotional element of it, 463 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: and it can be fun, but it's also exhausting, and 464 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: you also can buy into it. And then when it's gone, 465 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: it's like, whoa wait, Well that was like that's a 466 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: thing where I you know, I've never cared about any 467 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff, and I I obviously am receiving a 468 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: lot of attention and affirmation right now, and at the 469 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: same time, I can feel that this will eventually go away, 470 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: like you're hot, you're hot, and then you're not for 471 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: a second, right whatever until the next thing. But in 472 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: some ways I was like, oh my god. On the 473 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: other side of this also, I just didn't ever want 474 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: to feel tossed aside. But that's because I it got 475 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: to me, do you know what I'm saying? Like I 476 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: wasn't able to just see the big picture and feel 477 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: centered in myself and understand that it really is just 478 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: about the work and continuing to do good work that 479 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: you believe in and putting it out there. There was 480 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: something in the frenzy that really started to catch up 481 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: to me that I I was like on the wave 482 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: and I I, yeah, I don't know how else to 483 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: describe it. Um. Yeah. Betty Gilbin was on the podcast basently, 484 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: and she described what I think we're talking about is 485 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the metaphor was that part in a Laddin where he's 486 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: in the Cave of Wonder and they're like, you can't 487 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: touch anything except the lamp. Don't touch any of the diamonds, 488 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the jewels, the coins, any of that. And that's kind 489 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: of what this time in your life might feel like, 490 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: where it's like there's all the stuff around you and 491 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: all you your only job is to like go towards 492 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: the lamp. But I feel like you you've always known 493 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: what your lamp is, and you've always kind of had 494 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: it in the palm of your hand. Sometimes I feel 495 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: like I my lamp. I don't have no idea what 496 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: my lamp looks like. I don't know where it is, 497 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to get it, but 498 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm constantly touching coins and pearls and diamonds. I'm like, 499 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I am in this zone now where 500 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of losing the thread a little bit, and 501 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I totally related to what you're saying. You know, 502 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: I read this piece. I've been really into reading um 503 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: up ed pieces or interviews with actors, and I've never 504 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: been like this, but I have been just so desperate 505 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: to understand this moment that I'm going through and and 506 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: hear from other people what their journey has been like. 507 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: And I remember reading a piece in the l A 508 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Times um on Brad Pitt and he said something along 509 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: the lines of he got to a point where so 510 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: many people were telling him what he wanted that he 511 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: didn't even know what he wanted anymore. And I read that, 512 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, like earlier this year, maybe in March or something. 513 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: And I've just really been thinking about that where I 514 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: have to constantly check in with myself and make sure 515 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm just checking in and asking myself what I want. 516 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a lot of noise, and it's 517 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: a whole fun Babylonian show, but you take what is 518 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: right for you and then you you don't have to 519 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: take anything else. Yeah, And also like I think it 520 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: can be fun if you just keep telling yourself, like, 521 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: don't take it too seriously, you know what I'm saying, 522 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: like and and ultimately what is so great about this 523 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: is everything everywhere at once for the rest of the year, 524 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the quote unquote season is going to 525 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: do great. And just the fact that it's in the 526 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: conversation so much already says and shows how much people 527 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: have connected to this as a piece of art because 528 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: it has made people feel a certain way, And ultimately 529 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: is the thing that's at the kernel, at the center 530 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: of all of this stuff that is really cool for 531 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: you to be able to have and can maybe be 532 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: the lamp, which is that this piece of art that 533 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: you created is actually not only so steff, but also 534 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: so universal and so moving, so much so that multiple 535 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: people that I've talked to have seen it more than once. 536 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: It has done incredibly well at the box office in 537 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: a year where a lot has not, especially a lot 538 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: of like you know, lower budget things or however you 539 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: want to call it, like smaller scale things. That is 540 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: a huge triumph in a in a time of the pandemic, 541 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so there are so 542 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: many narratives like outside of the self that you can 543 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: like lean on and let guide you for however long, 544 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: like this process lasts. And it's just that is a 545 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: really cool thing because not everyone gets to talk about 546 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: stuff with with passion. You know. I was talking to 547 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: like this girl Jessica who does my hair and makeup 548 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: for some events, and she tells me that she works no, no, 549 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: she's she literally was looking at my face. She says, 550 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: I hate this, she's she's the best, and but she 551 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: works with a lot of these actors. And I was like, god, like, 552 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: I've been really lucky this year, like everything I've talked 553 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: about like genuinely love and she goes, oh, yeah, that 554 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: is not the case a lot of the time, Like 555 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot to out there and sound effusive about 556 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: things that are a you know, bad, or be things 557 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: that you didn't have a good experience on or see 558 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: with people you fucking hate totally, because that happens all 559 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: the time. I know, I've been just feeling grateful. I'm 560 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: fully like leaning in now. I'm just I'm leaning in 561 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: and having fun. I'm soaking it up when people come 562 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: up to me and they say thank you so much. 563 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: This movie meant so much to me. I'm really practicing 564 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: receiving it all the way to the bottom of my 565 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: heart and say like, oh, this person is also trying 566 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: to give me something, So don't deflect it or don't 567 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, that's crazy. Really hold it someone, 568 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: someone's trying to tell you that art that you made 569 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: that you are a part of, or something you express 570 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: change them. So hold that for them, and hold and 571 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: hold that for yourself. But yeah, I'm like so freaking 572 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: lucky that I love my cast I'm so close with 573 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: the Daniels. We have text threats, you know. I'm genuinely 574 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: excited to see them at these events that are can 575 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: be nerve racking sometimes and it just feels like I 576 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: get to spend time with people I love and celebrate 577 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: this thing that I really believe in, and so be it. 578 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: When will I ever get it again? Who knows? What 579 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: is an interaction between Steph Shoe and Jamie Lee Curtis, 580 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Like she's so amazing. She's just she walks into every 581 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: room just completely owns it. I don't even know how. 582 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: She just has no fear. She seems fearless and everything 583 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: that she is and that she does, and it's really inspiring. 584 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: She hates staying out late. So we were just texting 585 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: because the Governor's Awards are tomorrow, and we were all like, 586 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: we're so excited to see each other. And she's like, 587 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: just to let you know I'm gonna be there and 588 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: I will quickly leave because I just can't do late 589 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: nights and I have to wake up early tomorrow for work. 590 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: And she just has, i mean talk about boundaries. She's 591 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: just just yeah, yeah, and it's awesome. She's like, I can, 592 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: I can show up. I'm going to do that. That's 593 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: work too, and I'm happy to see everyone and then 594 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to do the whole party. She knows 595 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: why she's going. She knows exactly why. Yeah. Yeah, she's 596 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: so powerful. And you guys love Instagram. Y. Yeah, I 597 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: think most of us are going. There's still some TBD. 598 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Are you going to be there? We're going to be 599 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: there for Fire Islands. Were Fire Islands actually getting the 600 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Ensemble Award? Yeah? That's amazing. That very nice to them. 601 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: Can you guess what my favorite scene in that movie is? 602 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what's the what's the most Steff see Fire Islands? 603 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: The most stuff seen on Fire Island? Is it the 604 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: heads up seed? No? Is it James Scullion Bowen at 605 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the end because that's my favorite scene. I love that 606 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: scene also, but but it's earlier on. Is it everyone 607 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: dancing in the dock? It's doc related. Oh, it's a 608 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: scene in silhouette. Yes, yes, you're in silhouette. You're getting 609 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: invited to the party. You walk from the dock over 610 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: to your friends to say you got invited to the party. 611 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: Matt and all their friends got and then you you're 612 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: like shut up or whatever, and then you walk slowly 613 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: in silhouette over to the other boys. Again, that's in 614 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: my top five two. It's a good scene. It's so 615 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: well directed because Andrew gets the wide and it's a 616 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: movie about group dynamics. It's a movie about the way 617 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: people like are pulled in certain directions socially and so 618 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: like it's just a perfect way of and like everyone's 619 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: body language is so good. Like it says so much 620 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: about each character, the way that they're situated and standing 621 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: in their posture. It's it's a great direction, you know, 622 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: Like that's Andrew on like him. You should work with 623 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: Andrew where you got mad? You guys is mad? Oh, 624 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: that's powerful. It was very hot. Just now was When 625 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: Bowen said, you know, Andrew just gets the wide I 626 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, cinephile, Okay, movie star, Oh my god, okay, 627 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Emmy nominee. Stop stop look at glowing No, it's the 628 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: lighting to stop that at one star quality. Okay. So 629 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: I want to transition into asking you the question, which 630 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: is the central question of last culture? Wouldn't you agree about? 631 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: I would agree, And we've gotten a little preview of this. 632 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: This is going to be a very powerful answer. I 633 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: think this is the question, what was the culture that 634 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: made you say culture was for me? This is um 635 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: the pop culture, the wider culture, the thing, the person 636 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: that made you say I'm gonna move into a cultural direction. 637 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna cry because Matt's here too. Um. Yeah, 638 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: I would say it was this woman, Elizabeth Suados Liz 639 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: suados Um. When we were in college, she directed this 640 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: thing called the Reality Show, which brought together a bunch 641 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: of students to write sketches and music for around mental 642 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: health issues and also your first year of experience in college. 643 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: Matt and I were both in it UM and I 644 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: met her very or. I saw it my freshman year 645 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: at welcome week, and I was like they were doing 646 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: crazy things they were. They did a condom song and 647 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: people were just being condoms on stage, and I was like, 648 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: I want to do that. So I sought her out 649 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: and she is an amazing person, and I think she 650 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: taught me what it means to be an artist, which 651 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: is to say that it is something you don't hold lightly. 652 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: It's a responsibility and the essence of it, or the 653 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: care that you must take with your art or give 654 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: with your art, is to offer more goodness in the 655 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: world and to bring healing. So every opportunity that you 656 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: get to speak or that you get to make something, 657 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: it should have the greater good in mind. And it 658 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it has to be precious. In fact, it 659 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: should be shocking and subversive and wild and really say something. 660 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: But complacency is just not an option. And yeah, she 661 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: was my She was my mentor, as to so many 662 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: of us. And all I've ever wanted was to help people, 663 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, and help myself move through this world in 664 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: a way that's a little less confusing. And when art 665 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: is able to do that, whether it's comedy or music 666 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: or anything, it's just so healing. It's like you feel 667 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: you understand what it means to be alive. You know, 668 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: part of me still can't believe that she has passed away, 669 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: because she really would enter an exit and re enter. 670 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure your life as well as UM creatively and 671 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: Bowen actually got to know her a tiny little bit 672 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: when you were going to do the Shanghai version of 673 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: the show. I was. I didn't end up doing the show, 674 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: but I was very lucky enough to just even be 675 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: considered for it to to talk to Liz at that point, 676 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: Like I had heard what a wonderful present she was, 677 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: what an impactful person she was. I mean she I 678 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: was like all my friends were saying, this woman isn't 679 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: and she has an amazing sort of just her career 680 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: was so prolific. So yeah, I didn't really get to 681 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: interacted her too much, but you guys really got to 682 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: know her well. She was an Obie Award winner and 683 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: you know Tony nominated playwright for UM this show called 684 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: The Runaways, which you know, people that are aware of 685 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: and involved in theater that listened to the pod might remember. 686 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: She actually discovered Diane Lane like she's got like a 687 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: very very long She worked with Meryl Streep years and 688 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: years ago. She worked with tons of people in the business, 689 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: you know who shouted her out when she passed Lin 690 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: Manuel Miranda um Like. She was a hugely influential person 691 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: in the theatrical especially downtown New York theater community. And 692 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: when she sort of spent her time at n y U, 693 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: we were lucky enough to work with her. And I 694 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: always look back at her like the way that I 695 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: can distill it the most. She was the person who 696 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: literally and figuratively taught me how to use my voice, 697 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: because do you remember Steph Like the vocal exercises she 698 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: would have us do just like these. She was very 699 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: influenced by like um tribal music and like the way 700 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: like tribal vocalization, and she would have us like essentially 701 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: like have these guttural like shouting vocal like techniques that 702 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: maybe we're not necessarily always vocally safe, but they were 703 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: always taking some player somewhere, like Plair would take some 704 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: player she and she would love that ship, you know 705 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, some player. She would think that was 706 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: like I have my special coming out. And I kept 707 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, like what would she say about 708 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 1: I hope what she would say is that she would 709 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: I hope that she would smile like her smile, and 710 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: she would say, this is so stupid, you know what 711 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I just I think that's what she 712 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: would say. And I always I loved impressing her, like 713 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: I always loved coming in with my dumbest idea and 714 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: my dumbest bit and her being like her smiling her 715 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: iconic smile, with her mane of hair, and just like 716 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: knowing that you had gotten something right because she really 717 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,959 Speaker 1: had a presence, you know, like she had the X factor, man. 718 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I remember that summer, Matt, and you 719 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: really cracked open because I feel like you were you 720 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: knew me in the sketch community, the sketch exactly, that 721 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: that really did like something that was kind of the 722 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: first time that you were performing outside of sketch right 723 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: in in college. And I just remember that really that 724 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: you're nervous, and you also really cracked open because you've 725 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: got this incredible singing voice, but like you know, singing 726 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: can be so nerve racking because you think you've got 727 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: to do it a certain kind of way, and Liz 728 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: completely scraps that, and I just remember this whole soul 729 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: of an expressive being came out of you. And I 730 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: think also, I remember, you know, the way that she 731 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: does it, it gives you permission to take yourself and 732 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: your work even more seriously, with more responsibility. Just like 733 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: she encourages the funny, she wants things to be really 734 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: freaking hilarious, but that they can also be about things. 735 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: Um and uh. Actually the first time that she this 736 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: is actually a full circle moment. But the first time 737 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: we had a rehearsal together, we were sitting on the 738 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: ground and she looks over at me. She she had 739 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: braces at the time, and she's like, you remind me 740 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: of someone I know, what's aim Margaret Chod. Yeah. I 741 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: think they worked together on some whatever something. Um. But 742 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: I have a quote from her. I know you guys 743 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: are going to edit this together, so who knows if 744 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: this will make it, but I want to can I 745 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: share it with you out? So? UM. I found this 746 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: recently in my notes, which I don't use my phone, 747 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: as you know, but this is in there, and this 748 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: was set at her memorial and I guess I kept 749 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: it in my phone because it's so powerful. This is 750 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: a quote from Liz. We have to try to do 751 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: the impossible, extract magic from what everyone else thinks is ordinary. 752 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: We have to find the wizards in ourselves, turn ourselves 753 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: inside out like pockets, and keep shaking until we find 754 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: all the dimes and lint and leftover movie ticket stubs 755 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: in the lining. I mean, we've got to dig. The 756 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: possibilities keep coming, one after another. Explorers yes, adventures yes, 757 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: daredevils yes, life savers yes, athletes yes, humans yes, children yes, 758 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: actors yes, magicians yes. Look at all the possibilities. I 759 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: think it's time we abandoned this wasted, dried up world 760 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: of ordinary wishers and dreamed like a bunch of maniacs. 761 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: If there's anything left in the theater for anyone, it's 762 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: that we can all still dream of a better world together. Yeah, 763 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: she was a very special person, and I I I think, 764 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: I like, I actually didn't you mentioned her memorial And 765 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: I remember I didn't go to her memorial because I 766 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: was like too emotional about it. Um. But but when 767 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: I knew she would love you, because I because I 768 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: remember like hearing that you were going to go in 769 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: and meet on it, and I just knew that she 770 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: would be so attracted to your energy. But yeah, no, 771 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: it's m she That's how sounds like her, and I 772 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: just remember, like she she really did have a transform 773 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: formative quality and she touched so many people. Yeah, it 774 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: had a difficult life. Yeah, I I just remember that 775 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: year that Matt started reality show and there was this transformation. 776 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: There was this huge change and like the way you 777 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: carried yourself and the way you like valued your own talents. 778 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean I remember there being this shift and like 779 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: we all kind of remarked on it, like wow, like 780 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: this reality show thing is really is really impacting Matt 781 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: in a really cool way. Like you were you were 782 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: doing what you what we all knew you were so 783 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: good at, you know, like because because people Matt's journey 784 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: in college was freshman year, he was, you know, kid 785 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: from Long Island, still kind of on learning a lot 786 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: of stuff from like that environment, right, and it's just 787 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Meant that like you were able to be 788 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: brave enough to go into these spaces that you weren't 789 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: sure how they were gonna how you were going to 790 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: do in them, how they were going to accept you 791 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: or not accept you. You go into comedy, you do sketch, 792 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: and then you go into reality show and you're just you. 793 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: You just keyed into every groove of each of those 794 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: places and like you just sore and like I mean 795 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: that that that is the thing that like I took 796 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: away from Liz anytime anyone talked about her and in 797 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 1: meeting her was like this thing you guys are talking 798 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: about her presence, like she is someone who like the 799 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: like the air is all probably gets suction to her 800 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: because you have to pay attention to what she's saying, 801 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: even when she's not saying anything at all. Oh man, 802 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: she made you feel like things were limitless, you know 803 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like she she actually didn't really believe 804 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: in um limits, Like she didn't really um. So she 805 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: made you feel like the sky was the limit. And 806 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: I think that you know you're talking about it was 807 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: me a lot. But with Steph, I feel like, you know, 808 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: you were always such a boundless talent, you know what 809 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you you so were that you sort 810 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: of were the bar. You almost I remember, almost feel 811 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: like you were like an equal to her in that way, 812 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like and so you 813 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: were such an inspiring like performance presence and stuff like that. 814 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: But it was like that for everyone that worked towards her. 815 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like if you ask like SHANEA. She would 816 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: say that if you ask, like all these people that 817 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: worked with her, that they would all say that. And 818 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that there's something to the fact that, like 819 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: so many of the people that she worked with, um 820 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: continued to succeed and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, 821 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: and she was a whacko to like truly, Like there 822 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: were some moments like where I was like, I don't 823 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: know what the fun this is? Like do you know 824 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: she had like an HBO documentary was called My Depression Sigourney. 825 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: We were narrated it. Sig even narrated it. And the 826 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: way that she had an audition for it was we 827 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: all went to her apartment and sat in a circle 828 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: and all read the lines one after another. And I'm like, 829 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: I know, this isn't the practical way to do that. 830 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: There were some things about it that I was like, 831 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is like and like, um, but 832 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: aren't you glad that you did it the unconventional way? 833 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: Like absolutely, I mean, like she played by her own 834 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: fucking rules. And I also think talking about like you know, 835 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: not needing quote unquote this like the the the validation 836 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: of the industry and stuff like I sometimes think about 837 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: her as like someone that maybe did want that in 838 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: a way, I think that she did want to move 839 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: beyond the the downtown theater world. And I almost feel 840 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: like I know that she said some things to people 841 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: before she passed, like like she called I won't say who, 842 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: but like someone was going to do a musical on 843 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: Broadway instead of do her show, and she said, you're bourgeois, 844 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're making the wrong choice. 845 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: And I think it was because she did actually regard 846 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: commercial success with selling out, and so that was something 847 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: that also weighed on me a little bit, like I 848 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: felt a little tacky sometimes for one, I wanting to 849 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: succeed in a commercial sense, because when you finally do 850 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 1: invest in the theatrical community and the community of creating 851 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: your own work, it can almost feel like, you know, 852 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: you wrestle with like what's important and what's good and 853 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: what's bad, and like what's you and what's them? You know, 854 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: she constantly was provoking questions and probably too. I mean, 855 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: I think that's been my big grappling that I really. 856 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I called her my mama, right, she came 857 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: from La Mama Ellen Stewart was her mama. So Liz 858 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: was my mama and and our mama, and I've been 859 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: thinking about it like family trauma, where I've been like, oh, 860 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: Liz had baggage around the commercial sphere, and I have 861 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I don't carry that because actually, if 862 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 1: if we are able to be in the commercial sphere 863 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: and still think limitlessly and challenge ourselves to continue to 864 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: push the envelope, then there's actually great power in the 865 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: amount of reach that we can have. And it's just 866 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: always going be a balancing act. But you know, I 867 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: just had to check myself and being like, you know, 868 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm not too cool for this. This is awesome, right, 869 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: like even everything everywhere being a huge success, and like, God, 870 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: she would love this movie stuff, she would she would 871 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. The quote is very much the spirit 872 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: of the film, where it's like there's beauty and magic 873 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: in the mandanity of things like that, there's you don't 874 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: need to be like all these other possibilities in the 875 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: universe and the multiverse. There's something gorgeous about just being 876 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: who you are in the moment, in the reality that 877 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: you're in. Like, that's that's what she's saying there. When 878 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: I found it, I sent it to the Daniels, and 879 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you believe that we because we're I 880 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: was like, how did we find each other? It's kind 881 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: of the meta version of the movie also, somehow through 882 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: all the noise that we found each other to tell 883 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: this story. And that's that's nuts. Um. But yeah, I think, Matt, 884 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: I really relate to some of the questions you're asking, 885 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: and I think I love what you're saying about limitlessness. 886 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think I challenge us both to and all 887 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: three of us too, and everyone who's listening catching up 888 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: no to just continue to remember that it is limitless, 889 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: and it even though the industry has so many bounds, 890 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: like thirty minute versus one hour, the length of a 891 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: special like that, just to someone who decided that once 892 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: and it could be changed at any moment, and we 893 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: have to give ourselves space to remember that that's possible, 894 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: or else we'll lose ourselves, like we'll get swallowed up 895 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: and sad, because they can get sad. It sounds like 896 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: the thing that Liz Suados was able to do was 897 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: just like give you meaning. And I've been saying this 898 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: a lot and everything, but it's like people are people 899 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: are a little bit down right now because there's a 900 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: nihilism going around where nothing means anything anymore, and Liz 901 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 1: with someone who got you, guys at the right time 902 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: in your life to explain and to like figure out 903 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: for yourselves, like why things mean important things. I think 904 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: I think, I think it's so abstract, but but I 905 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: think that's what happened with her with everyone she touched. 906 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm actually looking up what Lin Manuel said about her 907 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: when she passed, because I remember, like I hadn't thought 908 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: about it like this, but but he said, Liz Suados 909 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: was using hip hop on Broadway in ahead of everybody, 910 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: a colossus singular unequal to. That's what he said about her, 911 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: And that was in the height of all the Hamilton's stuff, 912 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: because I think he really realized in that moment that 913 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: she needed to get her flowers. It's that thing that 914 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: sucks sometimes when like someone gets their flowers, like post 915 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, something happening to them or you know. But 916 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: I really think that her impact was so much larger 917 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: than she probably felt a new and she might have 918 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: even said that she didn't care, but I think she did. 919 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: That's all to say, like everyone knew who she was 920 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: in New York, you know, what I mean in New 921 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: York Theater. We love you, Liz, And can you talk 922 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about how you trained as a performer 923 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: and an actress. Yeah, totally. I started at the Atlantic 924 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: Theater Company, which is David Mammott's company, and it's actually 925 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: very cerebral and kind of all about script analysis. So 926 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 1: it was a very traditional acting upbringing. And then I 927 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 1: went to the Experimental Theater Wing. But I met Liz 928 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: while I was in the Atlantic, and I don't know, 929 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: I think I've just always when I was in high school, 930 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, people were like, oh, you should audition for drama, 931 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: and so that's kind of how I started doing that. 932 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: And then someone was like, oh, you know, you should 933 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: Brendan Naylor, who now works for Darren Aronofsky. He was 934 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: an upperclassman at this public school and he said, hey, 935 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: you should really think about going to college for this. 936 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that that was a thing. Um, 937 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: But I think I've always just, you know, liked to 938 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: throw paint at the fucking wall, you know, And I 939 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: think the only way I know how to find the 940 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: nuance of things is if you explode it in all 941 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 1: different directions. And so Liz, I think she would. Yeah, 942 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: at those auditions, she'd be like, Okay, now you're gonna 943 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: sing Funck You by Selo Green as a Turkey for 944 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: the first time. You would sing it once and then 945 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: she'd be like, okay, now you have to sing it 946 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: and you were freezing cold, like you might die, and 947 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 1: was great. It was really cool and it's truly got you. 948 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: And that's also like, so Steph was also a story 949 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: pirate with Bowen, and I like so when they were like, Okay, 950 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: we're going to play a spoon who's going through a divorce, 951 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 1: like I understood it because of Liz. I like when 952 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: the kids would be like, it's a spoon that's going 953 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: through a divorce and he's sad because he doesn't want 954 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: to like move away, you know, like and then like, 955 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: but you understood that because that's something that Liz would say, 956 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, totally. Yeah. And there's also something really physical 957 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: about it. I don't know why that. I've always felt 958 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: very connected to physical comedy. I have this theory that 959 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: I love physical comedy because I grew up in an 960 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: immigrant household, so nobody universal, like it's universal, and I 961 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 1: never I never got I even felt this when we 962 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: were doing comedy in college where people would come in 963 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: and it would be a Matthew McConaughey sketch, and I'm like, 964 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I know enough about Matthew McConaughey 965 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: to know this, understand how funny this sketches. And I 966 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: remember just being like, I guess I'll just be flarge. 967 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: You know. That's when we talk about that a lot though, 968 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: stuff because I feel like, especially the three of us, 969 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: like when we were all in those comedy groups at 970 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: n YU, they were run by the straight boys, when 971 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: I know you dealt with this over in danger box, 972 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: which is just like you know, we all had to 973 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: sort of learn their references and get their bits and 974 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: sense of humor, like you know, in a way, and 975 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't nefarious, but it was just the way it 976 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: had to be. And like it wasn't like anyone like 977 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: being like do you have to learn these? It was 978 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: just like, okay, like this is this is the culture 979 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: within this group of people and that's and that's all. 980 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: This is a you know, answer this how you wish. 981 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: But do you feel that sometimes at no? Ye, no, 982 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: like the sense of humor, do you always understand you 983 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: feel like you can always understand why things are funny, 984 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: or do you feel sometimes that there's a very specific 985 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: formula that you kind of have to abide too. There 986 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: are so many filters that, um, a piece of writing 987 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: goes through until it goes until it goes on air, 988 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: and you always and I'm sure every writer feels this way, 989 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: every cast member feels this way. They kind of want 990 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: and some sometimes and sometimes I am not too invested 991 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 1: in my own work, which is a bad thing to say, 992 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: but sometimes you just have to accept that. You know 993 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: they're not always going to be gold. But sometimes you 994 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: want to go, oh, but if only you knew the 995 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: process that like it was this other thing, this other 996 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: and this other context. But that's not how comedy works. 997 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,479 Speaker 1: There's a beauty and that there's a beauty and only 998 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: doing one final product on a Saturday of an idea 999 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: something that was just an idea in your head on Tuesday. 1000 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: That's what's mind blowing about SNL. And so I never 1001 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: like put too much pressure. I never really analyze it 1002 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: too much and I think it's okay, But honestly, Step, 1003 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: it's I think I need to hear this right now, 1004 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: Like with what you're saying about Liz, which is that 1005 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: like there is this responsibility to like doing what we do, 1006 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: especially if we're lucky enough to get this opportunity that 1007 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: like the three of us like individually have or have 1008 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: collectively and you know what. Total aside, But I'm flashing 1009 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: back to a memory that is very stressful for me, 1010 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: which is the first Story Pirate show I directed. Was 1011 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: Matt's first year on Story Pirates and I think it 1012 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: was yours. But we all went to this middle school, 1013 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: do you guys remember, Yeah, we all went to this 1014 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: middle school and the creative story was Chaos Chaos Wanda, 1015 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: and it was just so wild and kooky and and 1016 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: the and the kids they were seventh graders and so 1017 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: at that age they're like really like trolling you and 1018 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: they're really trying to funk with you, and we're trying 1019 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: to put on this like wholesome show and it was 1020 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: just it was a stressful moment. And I did go 1021 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: home that day being like I failed my cast. I 1022 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: filed like these kids and the three of us were 1023 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: all there and like God bless you all for like 1024 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 1: see like this is what true, Like this is what 1025 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,959 Speaker 1: the years means when we like say we know each 1026 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: other for a long time. It means that we've we've 1027 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: seen each other in weird, bizarre contexts and situations. Yeah, 1028 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: like being bullied by seventh graders, sense like because the 1029 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 1: Creative Story was like we would take suggestions from the 1030 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: audience and like you'd have to do what they said. 1031 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: And I also navigate, like when they were like trying 1032 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: to funk with you or make you do something weird, 1033 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: but also like you want to honor their ideas, right, 1034 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: And so I remember like the Creative Story got wild 1035 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: and out a hint ever steps and be like I 1036 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: can't believe we just did that. Also like that's important, 1037 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's and I can't 1038 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: tell you how many times, like we fucking bid it 1039 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: like doing like and also like you remember how seriously 1040 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: we took it to Like I remember when we go 1041 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: to skid Moore. We looked at that as a huge 1042 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to show the other colleges like what we were 1043 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: made of. And then all I can remember about that, 1044 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: and rightfully so is bowing coming out of the closet, 1045 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: Me and Steph being drunk, Remember me, you and study stuff, 1046 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: taking pictures of each other. We were stacked on top 1047 00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: of each other. I remember like, yeah, we were remember them. 1048 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna come up, We're gonna come 1049 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about it, but no, no, no, 1050 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: no no no, we don't do it, but we But 1051 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: you know what it's we were definitely in college. We 1052 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: were in because we were. It wasn't even that, it 1053 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: was that we were. And we went to n YU 1054 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: were you know, being in college meant something so arbitrary 1055 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: and we weren't having the traditional quote unquote college experience 1056 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: and then we would go to this honest to goodness 1057 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: liberal arts school, liberal school, and then we like got 1058 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: it all out of our systems. Yeah. I had like 1059 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: a highlight college memory at Skidmore. It was me and 1060 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 1: some kid for meal making out and look at a 1061 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: tool shed I don't know, and I'm like that's all 1062 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I need. I'm like, this is all I need, Like 1063 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't have to Like I was never really that 1064 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: like debauchers at n y U, but like Skidmore was 1065 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: where we all just got it out. Just never forget 1066 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Bowen coming out at Skidmore. O casey, I'm a hob 1067 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and gh and he was just like that's great. He 1068 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: was like, that's great. He was the headwriter on Hot Dog. 1069 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Hot Dog, Like the world is too small. It's just 1070 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: so funny. It's so small. It is tiny, tiny. Well, 1071 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: do you remember do you remember who beat us? Are are? 1072 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: We had a like a five Hammercats The Sketch Group 1073 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: had a five five months like Street Midnight Madness or 1074 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: whatever them, Yeah, Midnight cage match whatever, And do you 1075 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: remember who something like yeah or Showcase. I don't remember. 1076 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Do you remember who beat us? It was? And Jonathan 1077 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: who Yes, there were two people. We were twelve hundred. 1078 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: They beat us and it was crazy and we were 1079 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: so bummed. And now you know they're all everyone's fancy. 1080 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: But do you guys remember there was a moment when 1081 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: at Skidmore John Gabriel taught us a workshop, taught danger 1082 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: box and hammer tats to work. But everyone was so funny. 1083 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: But and there was a It was an exercise basically 1084 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: where he would hand you a card from a deck 1085 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: of cards, and if you had to pick your low status, 1086 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,439 Speaker 1: if you had a suit, if you're a face card, 1087 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: you were high status. And then it was he would 1088 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: be like two people on a date. And then I 1089 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: think I remember it was Steph Shoo and Mike Spence. 1090 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: I remember this. I remember this, and it was both 1091 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: of you were so funny. But that was that was 1092 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: a moment for me where I go, God, step Sho 1093 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: is the funniest mother figure, the funniest. I want you 1094 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: to do more, like like obviously everything everyone is funny 1095 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: and like Masal's a comedy show, but like they need 1096 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: they don't don't even know how funny. They don't know. Well, 1097 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: we should do something funny together. Obviously that's what should happen. 1098 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: I know, we all got to do something together. We 1099 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: really have to, im we have enough muscle between us, 1100 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I think, so really we just got to figure out 1101 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: what story there. No, seriously, I'm like, I would that 1102 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: would be so fun you know, oh my god, No, 1103 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean that would be the joy of my life 1104 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: with these two right here, right here and my sisters. Okay, 1105 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: so this is on a one minute segment that we 1106 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: do on every episode where we take a minute too. 1107 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: But what would you say drag to really examine drags 1108 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 1: a little violent? Yeah, you're right, I don't think so, 1109 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: honey is not negative. It's cathartic. Cathartic absolutely, Yeah, Okay, 1110 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: I think I have something. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. 1111 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. When he has time starts now, 1112 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Honey. I witnessed a car blow 1113 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 1: up and where I'm staying. There was no one in 1114 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: the car, but war had exploded. I was. I was. 1115 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I was living in the hotel and I hear this 1116 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: insane booming noise and then I see everyone just turn 1117 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: around and look at it, and I'm thinking the worst. 1118 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. I did never found out 1119 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: how the car exploded. But I turned around and there 1120 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: was a car on fire in the middle of the 1121 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: street between ten and eleven, and I was looking at it, 1122 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, see, not this is New York, 1123 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: but this is New York. I mean, like, this is 1124 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: a crazy ass moment. And I finally I was like, 1125 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 1: no one was hurt. They were like, no one was hurt. 1126 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, then the car was going to explode 1127 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: the way We're all just standing there watching the car 1128 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: there and everyone looking at each other, and we're also desensitized, 1129 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: like we only ever see on our phone. And there 1130 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: we are standing there watching a car explode and beyond fire, 1131 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: and no one is doing anything. You hear the sirens 1132 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: in the background, and I don't think so, honey. And 1133 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: that's one minute. That is the Michael Clayton g t 1134 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: a Michael Clinton. I didn't even text any of our 1135 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: ends about it, bow because I was like, I don't 1136 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: want to upset anyone. But like when I tell you, 1137 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: I heard boom, and then everyone anyone. It was crazy. 1138 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. 1139 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: And then it shook me for like an hour. I like, 1140 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna take a walk on the streets, because 1141 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: whenever I'm in New York, I take a long walk 1142 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: on the streets. But then I just walked around the 1143 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: fucking you know, Hudson Yards that mall. I was like, 1144 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm staying inside of the wall where where the most 1145 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: dangerous thing is the prices at theory, you know what 1146 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm gonna stay in here because they're 1147 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,439 Speaker 1: a deal. When I saw a car explode, I said, 1148 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Oh that's the only thing 1149 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: you can say in that situation. Should I've gone up 1150 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 1: next to the car and pulled out my phone and 1151 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: on a TikTok and said I don't think so. Honey, 1152 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I posted it. Would that have been icon behavior? Absolutely? Absolutely? 1153 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Wow that happened. I had anything? Did you have something? 1154 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's my thing in the culture 1155 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: that I'm I can go. You got it? Okay? This 1156 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: is I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, 1157 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. A T M fees um No, no, no, 1158 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: that's not good for me, sweetie, and for my bank account. 1159 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: No price is worth me getting money. You're gonna guys, 1160 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm pulling this out of my ass. Don't ever ever 1161 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: show me to seventy five on that screen. I should 1162 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: be getting this for free. It's my money. Why are 1163 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: you holding it hostage? Give me twenty now? Why do 1164 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I need the cash? Because I need to go buy 1165 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 1: a fruit, a piece of and they're not I'm not 1166 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: going to use my card for that. We're in a 1167 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: tap tap culture. More give me cash for free culture. 1168 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: You do see me at the strip club tipping the 1169 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: dancers and going that will be five seconds. This is 1170 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 1: a broken system. Everybody call your senator. I don't think so, 1171 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and that's one minute. My girl's iconic. I don't think so, honey. 1172 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: On today. You know what I do think so, honey, 1173 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 1: that since I've been away from New York, apparently all 1174 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: the all the like corner like falafel stands, street meat, 1175 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: they take credit cards now, so now the only places 1176 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 1: look at what's here? Oh my god, stre meat, the 1177 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: street meat, honey. That's about in New York is that 1178 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: you could be walking like and and sort of working 1179 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 1: out and getting your steps in so you can eat 1180 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: the street meat. You can have that slice of pizza 1181 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: or McDonald's or don't act like it ain't true. Oh, 1182 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I would never even pretend to not be the face 1183 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: of McDonald's. I mean, you really mean when you need 1184 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: you need to be the face of McDonald's. I think 1185 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 1: this is this is truly out of me. Stephanie really 1186 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: was there, Like I think I was eating McDonald's at 1187 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: every single Hammercats meeting Monday. On Monday nights when we 1188 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: would have our writer's meetings, I would pretty much Beadway, Yes, 1189 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 1: the one across from Tish, that place has seen some ship, oh, darling, 1190 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: dear darling. And there was the one near YouTube and 1191 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: that I think it's not there anymore, which is when 1192 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:29,000 Speaker 1: you lived on what was it not nice? Yeah, there's 1193 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: no McDonald's scarier than the one in midtown, Like, yeah, 1194 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 1: the one by UCB two, the one, the one that's 1195 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,640 Speaker 1: looked by like the poor authority, that is a haunted McDonald's. 1196 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: There's any thick New York City McDonald's. There's it's just cucko, cuckoo, 1197 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: cuckoo down and there's one that's you. You take the 1198 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: D downtown, I think it's like second Avenue D and 1199 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: you get out and there's McDonald's right there. That one's haunted. 1200 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 1: To do you need an dorsement McDonald's, Well, you know 1201 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:11,679 Speaker 1: we did for the mccrib. Yeah, we did after the McRib. Yeah, 1202 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: and we did a whole episode devoted to McDonald's. You did. 1203 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: It was the twelfth Day of Culture. Oh no, yes, 1204 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I know that. It was the first day of Culture, 1205 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: which is the first first stores. I remember that episode. 1206 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: I remember listening to it on all holidays. Twelve days 1207 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: of Culture. Oh um, yes, well, don't be don't be 1208 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: dragging me from my McDonald's consumption. Okay, So you know 1209 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 1: what I love is step shoe and whatever. I don't 1210 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: think so honey is going to be Are you ready, queen? 1211 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is step shoes. I don't think so 1212 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: many her time starts now, okay, I don't think so phones. 1213 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Fuck them. This soul annoying and you're timing you with 1214 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: your phone. No, seriously, my sums are sore, my thumb 1215 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: are sore. I think I have like chunkier thumbs because 1216 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 1: all I do is some thumb people words on this 1217 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: little box, and I just it's crazy. I hate Oh wow, 1218 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: I really feel this. I really hate how I'm activated, 1219 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm leaning in. I hate how phones have exploded time 1220 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 1: into a constant crack, and that if you don't answer 1221 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 1: someone in a fucking day, you get a follow up 1222 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: email and I'm like, don't fucking follow up with me. 1223 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: I have other things to do right now, which is 1224 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: literally where I cannot respond to your email Like that 1225 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: ship stresses me out. And I just feel like the 1226 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 1: phones have created this culture of immediacy, this culture of immediacy, 1227 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,519 Speaker 1: and I want everybody to slow down. I want there 1228 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,759 Speaker 1: to be time for us to pause and stop and rest. 1229 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 1: Fuck that ship. I'm not going to get endorsed by 1230 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Apple now, I'll tell you that much, but you know 1231 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I do it. So here's what I'll say, and I 1232 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 1: know you feel this way too. When you get a 1233 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: text someone an answer right away. I was like, you 1234 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,639 Speaker 1: have homework, m But I also, you know, I'm also 1235 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: trying to be more gentle with myself and know that 1236 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: people love me, I love them, and that it's okay, 1237 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 1: like the ripple of time is okay. But Jesus, this 1238 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: little thing. Someone was in yoga today and started writing 1239 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 1: emails on her Apple Watch in yoga, and the teacher 1240 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,599 Speaker 1: called her out, and I was like, yeah, that's not 1241 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: why you're coming here dropping. I think you you are 1242 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 1: always going to be very present, very aware of your environment, 1243 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: that this will never supersed that. I think you are 1244 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 1: built in a way that we are so jealous of, 1245 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: which is that like you don't need this, even though 1246 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: it seems like it's overtaking your life, you know how 1247 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: to you know exactly how to step away from it 1248 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: in a way we never go. Y'all are on my 1249 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 1: phone heroes in so many ways because I admire people 1250 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: who are able to function. Oh my god, wait, speaking 1251 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: of the phone. I actually this is a twist because 1252 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 1: Bowen said he forgot his, But I actually have what 1253 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, which is very topical, and now 1254 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I just remembered it and I want to do it. 1255 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: This is this is connected to phones, this is Matt 1256 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers is second. I don't think. I don't think so. Honey, Twitter, 1257 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: good bye. You're to go down for fucking years. You 1258 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,280 Speaker 1: have killed and destroyed the soul of this world. And 1259 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: if it took Elon Musk buying you and us having 1260 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: like a week couple of weeks of like hell for 1261 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: you to finally go down in the death throws, the 1262 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 1: death rattle of that is two good bye. I don't 1263 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: think there is a soul that is funny on it anymore. 1264 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: If you still use Twitter for your little humor platform, 1265 01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: oh challenge yourself. Oh my god, I don't believe it. 1266 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,879 Speaker 1: I am so happy this is going down in flames, 1267 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: because guess what if it continued. You know, Elon will 1268 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: just like Trump back of the funk on. Remember a 1269 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago when he was like, yeah, vote for 1270 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 1: the Republicans in the mid terms. Bye, bitch. I am 1271 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: so happy. That's just thinking about you not knowing anything 1272 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 1: about how to run a company. You'd been like tweeting 1273 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: out to your employees, Hey, does anyone know how to 1274 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,679 Speaker 1: write code? Thanks? Ellen, bitch? You are so stupid. Shoot 1275 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,759 Speaker 1: him up into space where he belongs. Thanks for the tesla, 1276 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,799 Speaker 1: I guess, but Twitter, I don't think so many Goodbye, 1277 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Good riddance. Instagram is next. You think Instagram is next. 1278 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Tech is not in a good place right now, And 1279 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 1: I think that's okay. Give me a rock and a 1280 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 1: hammer and a nail and I'm gonna hamm on my 1281 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 1: woods into the rock Commandment style. Yeah, I think we can. 1282 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: Just I don't think technology needs to This kind of 1283 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:46,520 Speaker 1: technology does not need to advance anymore. Yeah, it can't, 1284 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't really negative it's 1285 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting right now because his his meta had 1286 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,759 Speaker 1: to lay off a bunch of people. Um, cryptos collapse 1287 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,759 Speaker 1: saying after the f T stuff or it's not collapsing, 1288 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 1: but it's just like the regulators are having to step 1289 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 1: in anyway. I don't. I don't know as much as 1290 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 1: I think I do on this. I won't even for 1291 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: your guy. But do you have an instinct about where 1292 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 1: the world goes from here? I don't. I really don't, 1293 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: But I hope more people are like Stephanie Shoe, Yeah, studying, 1294 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you have you gone? Back to Colorado. 1295 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: Since all this that's a that's a whole other conversation. Okay, 1296 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. We need to catch up. We need 1297 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: to catch up. Are you all going to be in 1298 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 1: New York? Well here? Yeah? Are you coming? Are you 1299 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 1: living in you know, you're just in the hotel. I 1300 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm here for the rest of the month. 1301 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: But I hope we see what the Gothams. So too, 1302 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 1: I hope so too. Let's have a proper catch up 1303 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 1: at the award show. How about this, even if even 1304 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 1: if you don't get to go officially, will you come 1305 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 1: as my date because I get a date? You do? Yes? 1306 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: Are you a I would love to have you. Positive 1307 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 1: If you're going to be in New York for the 1308 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Gothams and you're not going at the Every World at 1309 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: Once table, I want you to be my date. Isn't okay? Great? 1310 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 1: If I go to New York if I'm not in 1311 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: Australia just day, Oh my god, look at me, I'm 1312 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: being so hot and cold. Remember one on a date 1313 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,919 Speaker 1: to Anastasia the musicale at the pens Ages. Yeah, it's funny. 1314 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 1: I want to I would love to see y'all in 1315 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 1: New York because you know, I feel like I can 1316 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 1: drop in deep yeah, instead of the frenetic energy. What 1317 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 1: we need to do is we need we all need, 1318 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 1: the three of us need to go to cozy Superberger. 1319 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, but you know what's not there anymore. 1320 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: It's the cottage. I hate that the cottage is not there, 1321 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and then also loved the cottage. I love. I remember 1322 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: when I had my restaurant. I think I had my 1323 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: twenty one birthday at the Cottage was a Chinese restaurant 1324 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: with unlimited wine, wine, unlimited wine, and they didn't card 1325 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,839 Speaker 1: and they never carted. That's why I had my twentieth 1326 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: birthday there because they didn't card. And I remember it 1327 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,720 Speaker 1: was like truly twenty of us. It was all the 1328 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 1: comedy kids, all drinking red wine and like really getting 1329 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 1: wasted on that shitty, shitty wine at the Cottage. And 1330 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: the food, and I will say the food was not 1331 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that good, No, but it was cheap. It was cheap. 1332 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: It was an irving place. But it was also white tablecloth. 1333 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,960 Speaker 1: It was cheap, but white table cloth, yes, table cloth, 1334 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 1: box wine. We thought it was fancy at the time. 1335 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,719 Speaker 1: We really did. We did. We were so fancy drinking 1336 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: red out for a birthday dinner. It was the Cottage. 1337 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: It was called the Cottage. Alright, well we're gonna do 1338 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 1: cozy Stipenburger in New York. We needed to happen. Let 1339 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 1: us know when you come here, we love you so much. 1340 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: And to anyone that's in the fucking Screen Actors Guild 1341 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 1: a nominating committee. I know that she doesn't care about this, 1342 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,840 Speaker 1: but what she deserves it critics choice and if you are, 1343 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 1: you know, as giving the thinking about f y fucking 1344 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: see Stephanie Shoe. I mean, like, this performance is so brilliant, 1345 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: it's so moving. It's everything that you deserve and more. 1346 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 1: And we're so proud of you and we love you 1347 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: so much. And the fact that like we got to 1348 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: have this like hour and a half here to like, 1349 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, I'll chat and talk and share it with people. 1350 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: That's you know, it's just a testament to a beautiful 1351 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: friendship that we all have. I love you very much. 1352 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 1: I love you guys so much. Thank you so much 1353 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 1: for having me. This has been truly a dream come true. 1354 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: It's been a bucket list item to be less culture 1355 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: STI So I'm proud of y'all. And just yeah stuff, 1356 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: what do you think about? Well, I thank me and 1357 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: every episode of the song. Here we go, see a 1358 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 1: good problem for you. I'll forget your doing the edited 1359 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 1: version the Chaka wasn't wasn't enough. I thought it was 1360 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: so cool. I used to go, who wasn't enough? Okay? 1361 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: But now do it like a turkey putting um about 1362 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:36,600 Speaker 1: to be um killed for a feast for the first okay, okay, okay. 1363 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: I hope listen listening, Love you guys,