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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well.
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Speaker 1: us today. I appreciate all the fine work guys like
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison and our engineers here at the Star did
Speaker 1: to get us on the air. It wasn't easy. We
Speaker 1: have a basketball tournament here, the Conference USA Basketball tournament
Speaker 1: is here at the at the Ford Center, and so
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on in the air,
Speaker 1: and that's what kind of got us knocked out. But
Speaker 1: we're back because we've got really skillful people that are
Speaker 1: doing great things behind the scenes. You got myself, Brian Broughts,
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and as I mentioned, Kent Garrison,
Speaker 1: executive producing guys. We just got back from the combine,
Speaker 1: had the workouts yesterday. We saw the linebackers, defensive lineman
Speaker 1: work on Sunday, and then we saw defensive backs workout yesterday,
Speaker 1: So those kids were flying yesterday. Huh. Best athletes of
Speaker 1: the group. I mean, yeah, we had such a great
Speaker 1: first few days and then yes yesterday Monday, the DB's
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, Denzel Warg, Alexander we had I think it
Speaker 1: was fifteen players under four to four, which is a
Speaker 1: record for the combine. It's these guys, these athletes are
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, there's in David. I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things when you're watching those kids
Speaker 1: work out, and I'm always one of those guys that
Speaker 1: and we talked about this a bunch when we're Indie
Speaker 1: that you know, if if I could see it on tape,
Speaker 1: you know, if the workout, I mean, if I could
Speaker 1: see it, you usually could tell if a guy can
Speaker 1: really really run or not. And but there were some
Speaker 1: kids that that were that play that ran better than
Speaker 1: how they play on tape. And then there's some kids
Speaker 1: that said, okay, yeah, hey these guys can play. You
Speaker 1: kind of get the match there with the two guys.
Speaker 1: So and I'm thinking about the Alabama kids that the
Speaker 1: two corners from Alabama and how different those guys were
Speaker 1: as far as the speed if you know, you know,
Speaker 1: with talking about Minka and Tony no with with well,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the corners, is what I was
Speaker 1: thinking about? Yeah, yeah, avorite you know was a was
Speaker 1: a official time of a fourth four three six and
Speaker 1: then you know, and then but though his teammate was
Speaker 1: in the four sixes, you know, so I mean I
Speaker 1: was just kind of thinking about you know, Levi Wallace.
Speaker 1: You know, they're both really really good players. So it's
Speaker 1: just kind of it's one of those things sometimes you
Speaker 1: see guys he's thinking, Man, he doesn't, he doesn't play
Speaker 1: that way. He plays this way. But just your thoughts, though,
Speaker 1: Dave is as we wrap that thing up, um, light
Speaker 1: are my thoughts my? I mean, I think I said
Speaker 1: this when we were still up in India. Is I'm
Speaker 1: just confused. I can't. I can't wrap my head around
Speaker 1: this draft class. And um the main thing for me
Speaker 1: is maybe you know, I don't, and maybe it's because
Speaker 1: I feel like we try to do such a good
Speaker 1: job of turning over every stone before we get up there,
Speaker 1: Like there's nobody, there's nobody who like really blew me
Speaker 1: away at the combine who I didn't already feel good about.
Speaker 1: There's no you know, I you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago Byron Jones is the famous one he kind
Speaker 1: of like jumped into everybody's consciousness. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not falling for it this year in terms of, like,
Speaker 1: there's nobody that really just stands out to me in
Speaker 1: terms of purely their combine. Uh So, you know, like
Speaker 1: you guys love to say you use this to cross
Speaker 1: check sure and that that works out really well and
Speaker 1: in a lot of these cases of these elite talents
Speaker 1: who had really great weekends at the combine. Other than that,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not super surprised by anything I saw.
Speaker 1: And the main thing is, um, I don't think it
Speaker 1: really did much to clear up this jumble of a draft,
Speaker 1: at least not to this point. Not in my opinion,
Speaker 1: kind of goes it kind of goes to the point
Speaker 1: that maybe that the top of this thing might not
Speaker 1: be is is. It's not easy. It's not easy at all. No,
Speaker 1: But but I kind of feel like though maybe when
Speaker 1: we're sitting in this studio on day two and then
Speaker 1: going into day three, we're gonna have some fun. Everybody
Speaker 1: loves the draft, but I know it's gonna be thrilling,
Speaker 1: even in the first round. I think you think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be thrilling. Yeah, what drafts not thrilling? But I
Speaker 1: know the draft's thrilling. But I'm just saying, oh, you
Speaker 1: just I like, but do you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: it could go chalk? I mean, who we kind of?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at your mock draft and I'm
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, Okay, I could see it go that way.
Speaker 1: I'm firstly a lot better coming out of this combine
Speaker 1: about these players than I think I've ever felt. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I felt like what we sought
Speaker 1: the combine pretty much for the most part match what
Speaker 1: we on tape. There's a few guys I want to
Speaker 1: go back and look, you know, like Justin Reid from
Speaker 1: Stanford off tape gave him borderline top one hundred grade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he tested much better than he plays. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: my quote always on read his name is better than playing.
Speaker 1: A name is better than tape. Younger brother of Verry Korey. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I actually I've watched him. Yeah, didn't
Speaker 1: blow me away. Um, you know, guys like Troyaki from
Speaker 1: Penn State safety who kind of fun to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know his tape is. I didn't get around to
Speaker 1: him until the week before the Combine, and I was
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised because he can play. He's kind of a
Speaker 1: free safety or a strong safety and a free safety body.
Speaker 1: He doesn't play for three the time that he produced
Speaker 1: at the Combine. But he's not a bad athlete either.
Speaker 1: He can run, he can hit. Not the best cover safety,
Speaker 1: but there's a place in the NFL for a guy
Speaker 1: like that, especially with what he can do on special teams.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that signed with Penn State
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, moved to safety, finally got on
Speaker 1: the field as a senior as a full time starter,
Speaker 1: and he took advantage of his opportunity. Him and Marcus
Speaker 1: Allen put together a nice little safety combo. And I
Speaker 1: mean Penn State that program itself. If they had the
Speaker 1: Olympics for metals, not a great play, State would have
Speaker 1: won the They would been the going away for the medals.
Speaker 1: Penn Penn State people are gonna look back like like
Speaker 1: people love to give and they were on and they
Speaker 1: were on probation or they lost all those lost scholarship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean all the things. Yeah, I mean, and hey,
Speaker 1: and we knew, we knew Berkeley, we knew I mean
Speaker 1: Gasecki to a certain degree. He performed even better than
Speaker 1: we expected. But apkey, Grant Haley had a great Grant Haley,
Speaker 1: I mean, where did that come from? People are gonna
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Grant Haley. He's a good player.
Speaker 1: Like people make fun of LSU because Jarvis Landry and
Speaker 1: Odell and Jeremy Hill all played there and they didn't
Speaker 1: win anything. It's like, say, Quan and Gasecki and Chris
Speaker 1: Godwin and Hamilton, we're all on this team and y'all
Speaker 1: didn't win more stuff. And the best receiver from that
Speaker 1: team is an under classman who will probably see next
Speaker 1: We'll be talking about next year at this time. My god,
Speaker 1: So Trace McSorley had plenty of talent around him, and
Speaker 1: then on defense, they were just missing, like that stud
Speaker 1: defensive lineman on that Penn State team because they had
Speaker 1: everything else combind to linebacker. The secondary is full of
Speaker 1: NFL dudes. Christian Campbell to corner didn't even work out.
Speaker 1: He'll work out the Pro day. He's an NFL guy. Wait,
Speaker 1: I want to hijack this for a second. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a great three hundred marker Salad too. We didn't
Speaker 1: even talk about him. Safety. Three hundred and thirty six
Speaker 1: guys get invited all across the spectrum of the draft range.
Speaker 1: But do you and you feel confident about these guys
Speaker 1: because it matches what you've seen, But do you really
Speaker 1: feel like the first round's gonna be chalk? Because I
Speaker 1: think I just think what's gonna be. People are gonna
Speaker 1: lock in. I think it's gonna be nuts. I think
Speaker 1: it he's got this right, I mean it's not. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be chalk. Well, I can break this
Speaker 1: thing down for you. You're talking about who are the
Speaker 1: wild cards in the first say fifteen picks. The thing
Speaker 1: is we're gonna have trades. We always do, and sure,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna trade. They're gonna trade for guys that
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade up for guys that are that should
Speaker 1: be picked. There. Let let okay, you're talking at least four,
Speaker 1: if not five, huge upset you think in the top
Speaker 1: fifteen huge upset. It's just it's where did the where
Speaker 1: did the quarterbacks go? Okay, of course, but we kind
Speaker 1: of think that the quarterbacks are all top fifteen worthy,
Speaker 1: with the exception Worthies a separate conversation. But will they
Speaker 1: go tough? Okay, Okay, I could see all five doing that. Okay,
Speaker 1: when it's all set and done, I could see all
Speaker 1: five give me the upset in the top fifteen. Let's well,
Speaker 1: let's think about this and then the other point. On
Speaker 1: top of all those quarterbacks, you got Quentin Nelson and
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, who are widely regarded as probably the top
Speaker 1: two prospects. Saw saw they play positions that people don't
Speaker 1: want to draft. And I have not seen I have
Speaker 1: not seen Quintin Nelson go any lower than nine. No,
Speaker 1: and he will. I would be surprised if you see.
Speaker 1: To me, that's an upset. It qualifies to me as
Speaker 1: an upset. If Quentin Nelson goes to the Bears at eight,
Speaker 1: that's an upset based on everything y'all are telling me
Speaker 1: about how good this guy. Sure, but we saw some guys,
Speaker 1: some top five guys. I qualifies as an upset to me.
Speaker 1: If I think this draft starts after fifteen at Arizona, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I get what you're saying, because I think
Speaker 1: we have. Are you just discounting the first half? I
Speaker 1: just think it's gonna date Bruglar. I think I keep
Speaker 1: looking at his mock draft, I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: right well, and I agree with about the players. I
Speaker 1: think some of the destinations and where they go, the marriages.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm trying to say is I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna be Who's gonna be Who's gonna be
Speaker 1: the upset guy, the one guy that I think it's
Speaker 1: messed us all up? Well, I'm gonna do an updated
Speaker 1: mock draft later this week, and spoiler, my Cowboys pick
Speaker 1: will be a guy we've been talking about as a
Speaker 1: top fifteen player in this draft. Oh, okay, a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna fall a little bits. Tease he's not. He
Speaker 1: doesn't play as college football in Tuscaloosa, does he? He
Speaker 1: plays his college football in the United States? Are you who? Uh?
Speaker 1: We'll tease that. We'll okay, I'll make sure and do
Speaker 1: that mock before Thursday, our next half show. We just
Speaker 1: talk about it. We can talk about that, um because
Speaker 1: we know you love to do mock drafts. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: mean out of the combine, it's only fair I'm serious.
Speaker 1: I'm serious. I get what you're saying, because, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know the tremain Edmunds, Yeah yeah, the Denzel Wars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know Denzel Wars kind of get that. Go get
Speaker 1: a little rhythm now, but little Okay, draft, I want
Speaker 1: to clarify. I think Dane's got it right. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be surprised by the fifteen players. I love the draft,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think we're gonna be very surprised
Speaker 1: by where those fifteen guys go. I really do. But
Speaker 1: whether it's trades, whether it's a guy falling, whether it's
Speaker 1: some I mean, you know, like to me and y'all
Speaker 1: are free to disagree. But like, if Baker Mayfield goes
Speaker 1: in the top five, to me, that's surprising. But it might,
Speaker 1: I mean, some team might decide that's the way that
Speaker 1: they want to go. But it's the quarterbacks, right, that's
Speaker 1: kind of the wild cards quarterbacks every year. Like, and
Speaker 1: I think I don't think you can understand all the
Speaker 1: fact that, like I said, two of the most well
Speaker 1: rounded prospects in this class don't play sexy positions, at
Speaker 1: least not in terms of the top of the draft board.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's going to be interesting. It
Speaker 1: will be interesting, especially with the quarterbacks and the trades
Speaker 1: that we see. Again, first Domino that needs to fall
Speaker 1: as Kirk Cousins, if he goes to Minnesota, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the teams we've been talking about,
Speaker 1: like the Jets, the Broncos, teams that were potentially looking
Speaker 1: to get Kirk Cousins, they're going to be in the
Speaker 1: quarterback market in But if kirk Cousins goes New York,
Speaker 1: goes to Denver somewhere else, that eliminates a possibility in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen. So it creates more intrigue about Buffalo
Speaker 1: using twenty one and twenty two to trade up somewhere
Speaker 1: in the top twelve to get their quarterback. It's it's
Speaker 1: really going to be fascinating see how it plays out.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, who walking away
Speaker 1: from the combine, is there one two couple names that
Speaker 1: stand out to you as guys that really helped themselves
Speaker 1: just compared to perception going into the combine. That's a
Speaker 1: really good question. Paired to perception, well, I think that
Speaker 1: you know what, Let me ask you that perception being bad, bad, perception, perception.
Speaker 1: How about this, okay, how about Ward being short? Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: You know everybody's thinking, oh, he's a tiny guy. Well
Speaker 1: five ten and seven eighth so eleven yea and over
Speaker 1: thirty one. He's he's one of the best players in
Speaker 1: his draft if he if But everybody's perception was he
Speaker 1: was a tiny guy. I hate, you know, kind of exaggerating,
Speaker 1: but he's a lock top ten pick. Sure, he is
Speaker 1: a lock. I'll say that right now. He is a
Speaker 1: locktop ten picks. You cannot get me one reason why
Speaker 1: he's gonna fall out of the top ten. I know
Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy. He's not six two, five
Speaker 1: eleven's fine, that's good enough. So Denzel Ward. If you're
Speaker 1: doing a mock draft and Denzel war is not your
Speaker 1: top ten, just crumble it up, start over. I swear
Speaker 1: to God, I'm not doing this to just how to
Speaker 1: be a bit. I'm not trying to I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to piss Dayan off. But I mean, how many guys
Speaker 1: grew two inches at the combine? I mean, not only
Speaker 1: did DJ Moore grow two inches compared to what everybody
Speaker 1: thought about him, our favorite wide receiver did too. He
Speaker 1: ran a solid, much faster forty time than a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought, so like two of the biggest things
Speaker 1: on him. He corrected very very himself. Well, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: him too. It's yeah, who did you say? DJ? We'll
Speaker 1: say this about DJ Moore, right, you know, talking about
Speaker 1: a guy like Rashaun Golden who didn't run or perform
Speaker 1: as expected athletically. But I'm trusting the tape on now
Speaker 1: one because it's it's one. Yeah. On the flip side,
Speaker 1: as much as I love DJ Moore, he doesn't play
Speaker 1: like a four four two athlete on film. No, but
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. But I do feel good
Speaker 1: about the forty time because it wasn't a four five six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he plays on tape we thought four five five Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I know I did. I can't speak for
Speaker 1: you on that. I thought on tape he was a
Speaker 1: four four eight to four or five two player, Okay, So,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was a little worried that. You know,
Speaker 1: you just never know what the forty yard dash, you know,
Speaker 1: the start, the finish, and it's easy to screw that
Speaker 1: up as a you know, unless you have that track background.
Speaker 1: But he was blazing and at the four four two.
Speaker 1: He doesn't play like that, so I'm not gonna just
Speaker 1: move him all the way up the draft board. But
Speaker 1: coming in taller than expected, that's definitely a big deal.
Speaker 1: And again top thirty. He was thirty overall my first
Speaker 1: draft board. Hit my second draft board, he will definitely
Speaker 1: be higher, mostly because of the height. Trying to think,
Speaker 1: who else do you like? I'll give you a guy.
Speaker 1: How about you like Chubbs numbers except for the three cone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that amazing? This guy's the This guy is the
Speaker 1: best pass rushing the draft. Yeah, he's a top five pick,
Speaker 1: but we knew he's not a Von Miller guy, you know,
Speaker 1: quick redirection. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, though, you're buying
Speaker 1: into the fact he's a different type of rusher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that can he has good
Speaker 1: get off, he can use his power mid rush. Uh,
Speaker 1: uses that length and that forward balance. He's not that
Speaker 1: quick redirection guy. He's gonna drop playing space. So the
Speaker 1: three cone doesn't bother me too much much. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: a top five pick. Could you check the numbers on
Speaker 1: Tevin Bryan from Florida or a d lineman for nine
Speaker 1: eight that that doesn't seem like him, doesn't. Yeah that
Speaker 1: that he's a fantastic athlete. That's what I'm saying, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some of these guys that I'm
Speaker 1: kind of looking at. I'm looking at it. I'm going
Speaker 1: you know, the twenty shuttle four for eight, that doesn't
Speaker 1: seem right for a guy like that that plays with
Speaker 1: the explosiveness that he does. I know, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people ask me about him. He's the undertackle from
Speaker 1: Florida that people came to with with with the situation
Speaker 1: with Hurst and you know, our thoughts with him. But now, okay,
Speaker 1: some of these three techniques are going to be I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he could be very well one of those guys
Speaker 1: that's in the mix for that, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I'm with you though. I like
Speaker 1: Davin Bran with you. I love what you just did.
Speaker 1: He didn't even let him say anything. Oh I knew
Speaker 1: what he was doing, you know, my side by Now
Speaker 1: I knew it's work when you work with somebody for
Speaker 1: five years and you and you and you know exactly
Speaker 1: what he's gonna say. I get it. Yeah. My comparison
Speaker 1: for Tavin Bryan is Robert Candici not off the field.
Speaker 1: On the field. Yeah that's good. Yeah, good clarification, you know,
Speaker 1: and that one a very athletic pass rusher who there's
Speaker 1: some discipline issues again on the field, not off the field. Uh,
Speaker 1: just doesn't really know what he's doing. You. Flashes are great,
Speaker 1: but again you're just if you're taking him in the
Speaker 1: top twenty five, you're banking on the rest catching up
Speaker 1: because he's for him to live up to that, I
Speaker 1: have a draft pick, uh what about you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to as a draft show
Speaker 1: to recap uh some of these defensive positions. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: guy that really stood up for me yesterday Monday with
Speaker 1: their dB group was Gyre Alexander from Louisville. Yeah, talking
Speaker 1: to me, he made a name for himself for sure
Speaker 1: in my Good Football Player my first draft board, he
Speaker 1: was nineteen overall as my my number four corner. I
Speaker 1: had Minca, Denzel Ward, Mike Hughes, and then Gayre Alexander
Speaker 1: top twenty pick. And you know, I I heard it
Speaker 1: from a lot of people because I had him ahead
Speaker 1: of Jackson. I heard a lot of people asking me
Speaker 1: about that, and coming out of the combine, I feel
Speaker 1: even stronger about it with the way they performed. And
Speaker 1: Gi Alexander not the biggest guy, just a hair over
Speaker 1: five to ten, Yeah, but fourth, three, eight and the
Speaker 1: forty great numbers across the board. He's the short shuttle.
Speaker 1: He's a big time player. Yeah that's six was it? Six?
Speaker 1: Seven one in the three cone? Yeah? Come on, you
Speaker 1: know what I would, I would short shuttle. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying I would push you. I would you, and
Speaker 1: I would Roman Greco wrestle. If you said that you
Speaker 1: had him over, if you didn't have if you had
Speaker 1: Jackson over him, Well, if you Josh Jackson your least
Speaker 1: favorite big time prospect. I love that king kid last
Speaker 1: year from Iowa and I and I and I respect
Speaker 1: the heck out of Iowa players. That Joe, that Jewel.
Speaker 1: I don't care what he runs. Throw on the tape.
Speaker 1: He's a good player. Yeah, say that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Throw on the tape. Put on the tape. These guys
Speaker 1: make plays. Just throw on the tape. See that's again.
Speaker 1: I Alexander the whole time, I was like, well he
Speaker 1: ran that. I'm just kinda so that's what he that's
Speaker 1: how he is. That's the type of player he is.
Speaker 1: This tape will tell you a lot if you just
Speaker 1: watch it, as long as the medicals are Okay, he's
Speaker 1: he's a top twenty player. Please. Well he plays cornerback too.
Speaker 1: I mean yes again, not the biggest guy. You can't
Speaker 1: discount that. Uh. And then one other guy who we
Speaker 1: might need to wrest, Dante Jackson. We might wrestle over
Speaker 1: this one, Layton Vanderesh. Some of those numbers, man, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna lose sixty four, two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six pounds thirty four inch arms. Well, I am
Speaker 1: not going to go down the Joey Bosa path on
Speaker 1: this four sixty five forty yard dash thirty nine and
Speaker 1: a half in verse six, eight eighty three cone. Good
Speaker 1: for him, this is that's impressive. I'm glad. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that I like. I don't watch the Cowboys take that guy.
Speaker 1: I'd have to watch him play for four year. You
Speaker 1: won't be there at fifty. I promise you that I
Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a scout. So, oh, nineteen, you
Speaker 1: can't rule it out. Nineteen he's gonna I think I
Speaker 1: asked you for shocking things in the top fift there's
Speaker 1: a better chance he goes late first round than early second. Okay,
Speaker 1: I agree late so I nineteen is That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna go late first round, then he at
Speaker 1: least needs to be walk. I wonder if I walk
Speaker 1: the draft if if he if he used to pick you,
Speaker 1: just leave the studio. I take my headset off, just
Speaker 1: finish it out that we'll see great story is a
Speaker 1: great kid. You'll love him here in Dallas. I watched him.
Speaker 1: I watched him play, and I didn't come away impressed.
Speaker 1: But if if Dane tells me he's a guy, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna trust the expert. I watched his first the
Speaker 1: first half of the season, and I was, he's gonna
Speaker 1: but you know doesn't get Then you watch that Oregon
Speaker 1: game and you fell in love with him because they
Speaker 1: couldn't block him because they kept messing up the second
Speaker 1: level block. Not just as the Oregon game, but the
Speaker 1: second half of the season. I thought, he I saw,
Speaker 1: I will sit down to watch Hutter. I will sit
Speaker 1: down and watch him. I see a guy where the
Speaker 1: light bulb is illuminating. It's getting brighter and brighter and brighter.
Speaker 1: The more I say, I'm telling you he was his
Speaker 1: his first year as a starter. Don't you see things clear?
Speaker 1: You're a gut scout. You're a gut scout. Aren't all scout? No? No,
Speaker 1: he's he is a gut scout. He is. He uses
Speaker 1: his eyes, but he's a gut scout. You're gut about him.
Speaker 1: Initially I think is I think you're going to be
Speaker 1: right there? Initial your initial thought. Well, but again that
Speaker 1: was based on earlier in the season. Okay, and then
Speaker 1: again I went back and watched the second half. That's
Speaker 1: where I got, Okay, he's doing these things. This is
Speaker 1: the problem. You start in December January when we start
Speaker 1: start start like crawfishing on these guys. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't have this. You should learn a
Speaker 1: lesson from twenty seventeen and embrace yourself for them to
Speaker 1: draft a guy you might not like that much at
Speaker 1: nineteen saying is there anybody Layton vandersh anybody that we
Speaker 1: weren't talking about extensively at nineteen before the combine that
Speaker 1: we should be now as a possibility, speaking of how
Speaker 1: come Dane's asking all these great questions when you're the host? Huh? No,
Speaker 1: this is this is dealing the carpet right out from underneath. No, no,
Speaker 1: I asked those questions. I thought we asked those questions
Speaker 1: when we were breaking the other. That's well, I did
Speaker 1: ask that question. I don't want to notions that come
Speaker 1: up during dinner and at the combine exactly. That's Day
Speaker 1: and Dave are powering down a tomahawk chop. I can't
Speaker 1: believe we had to talk you into them. I'm still
Speaker 1: sweating over Let's I don't know. It's good. That's good conversation.
Speaker 1: That's what we do. No, let's well, let's really think
Speaker 1: about that. Okay. Alexander, which this team doesn't need a
Speaker 1: cornerback at nineteen, but Alexander's a name that comes to mind. Hughes,
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes. What about Harold Landry? Oh, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the size dimensions this team looks for if they
Speaker 1: but he's a first round give him your watch, give
Speaker 1: him your wat discussion, give him the smaller than what
Speaker 1: he's He's smaller than what and identical in all of
Speaker 1: his in all of his analytics, like everything about him
Speaker 1: that is that gonna fly over on that side of
Speaker 1: the building. Other than the fact that he put his
Speaker 1: ho you were right about what you were right about what.
Speaker 1: I give you credit for what you're right about him.
Speaker 1: But I'm just let's let's let's just how many times
Speaker 1: you're gonna get hit over the head before you realize
Speaker 1: what's going on? No, I trust I'm throwing it out there.
Speaker 1: I know, but heya tell me this, Dan, based on
Speaker 1: what we saw from Harold Landry, right, based on what
Speaker 1: we saw from Harold Landry, is it realistic to think
Speaker 1: he's there at nineteen? Uh? This is not a strong
Speaker 1: This is not a strong pass rusher close you have think, guy,
Speaker 1: you're gonna mock. No. I mean he could go he
Speaker 1: could go green Bay, he could go Washing thirteen. I've
Speaker 1: seen him in green Bay linked a lot, and it
Speaker 1: seems like green Bay still played a three four right, yeah, Pett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just you know, and and hey, I'll be right
Speaker 1: here to admit that I'm wrong when I'm wrong. But
Speaker 1: it's it would be so weird if a year after
Speaker 1: they pass on what because of his measurables, they decide
Speaker 1: to draft the same type of player. All right, well,
Speaker 1: here we go here one year later, same spot. Uh,
Speaker 1: Harold Landry six O two three, two fifty two. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence six or two seven, two fifty one untill
Speaker 1: a half inch is the difference? What's your reach? What's
Speaker 1: your reach? Thirty thirty two and seven eights on that arm,
Speaker 1: I don't know. De Markus Lawrens in front of me,
Speaker 1: let me yeah, I can look it up. Yeah, or
Speaker 1: Draft twenty fourteen. Although this is where I point I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call it. I'm gonna call Landry's thirty two and
Speaker 1: seven eights, so thirty three. Yeah, This is where I
Speaker 1: point out that DeMarcus was pick thirty four. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that makes it. I mean, that's a half
Speaker 1: a round. They traded up for him, they did, they
Speaker 1: did still other Raiders, and I was all for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I gave de Marcus Lawrence the first
Speaker 1: round grade, so I was all all in favor of
Speaker 1: that move. I'll tell you him at nineteen though, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd love to say I'd love to say yeah,
Speaker 1: but again I'm kind of thinking of what, you know,
Speaker 1: why Dave's point is, why would they This has nothing
Speaker 1: the kitchen, This has nothing to do with the player.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I mean, and hey, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's love the guys over there, but the same as saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Drawn Payne at nineteen yeah, right, yeah, Are
Speaker 1: they going to value that enough to take him at that? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Stephen Jones told you that
Speaker 1: if the guy has got three technique traits, they would
Speaker 1: do it if he was a one. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I I that's kind of one of those things that
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'd love a Landry. I Lawrence was
Speaker 1: thirty three and three quarters? Okay, so is the quarters
Speaker 1: different defensive coordinator here too? I think, um, I think
Speaker 1: that was technically Rod's first year. Is that Rod's first year,
Speaker 1: Rodd's first year after getting promoted, So it's it's it's
Speaker 1: worth talking about. I'm not completely ruling it out. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, ask you guy, did Let me
Speaker 1: ask you about Davenport. Did he help himself a ton
Speaker 1: with the four five eight? I think he he's probably
Speaker 1: going to go ahead of Landry. I would guess he's
Speaker 1: got the same twenty shuttle as Uh Chubb. I believe
Speaker 1: he met with the cowboys up there, for whatever that's worth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely fits the more of the size dimensions of
Speaker 1: what this team's looking for too, Is there not? Before
Speaker 1: we get way too departed from the original question, is
Speaker 1: there a guy that we had not mentioned in that
Speaker 1: realm of possibility that we've covered the receivers, we've covered
Speaker 1: the guards, we've covered the one technique, we covered the
Speaker 1: three until he had the condition. I get, Well, my
Speaker 1: main thing is there we've talked about safety. Would you
Speaker 1: would you? Because everybody wants James, but I just don't
Speaker 1: see that happen. It's not James is not going to
Speaker 1: be a consideration here because he won't be there, not
Speaker 1: because this team won't like him quarterback. Yeah, sure, lamar
Speaker 1: Um Actually on the radio this morning, Let's say Quentin
Speaker 1: Nelson goes high and then Isaiah Wind goes eighteen to
Speaker 1: see Adol. Well, Hernandez, is he consideration for you? He
Speaker 1: had a great combine. Yeah, I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you wouldn't want to do it. I wouldn't, but yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes,
Speaker 1: put him in that mix. Well, okay, my third best guard.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about guys that we've talked about, though,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how about okay, Like, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: him too, but maybe not at nineteen like we talked
Speaker 1: about the line back to some depth. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is Rashaan Evans do anything for you. Not at nineteen.
Speaker 1: He could be there, you could be in considerate. I
Speaker 1: mean him and vander Esh are both in that late
Speaker 1: first See he's got the vander Esh thing. He's got
Speaker 1: that train going forward. What about Ronnie Harrison? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean no, no, no, Yeah, I've got other safeties
Speaker 1: I like better than Harrison. Okay, just that's just but
Speaker 1: that's me that might not be there trying to cover
Speaker 1: my bases here. Yeah, where would you have Harrison? This
Speaker 1: relation to the safeties, it's your second best safety, third
Speaker 1: best safety. Uh seconds, he's in the mix. He's in
Speaker 1: the second round mix with Golden and Beats. Yeah, watch
Speaker 1: that kid last. I mean, hey, real quick, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna take We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We gotta take a break. Here,
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Speaker 1: Twitter questions and then we got tell me more. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: of questions on Twitter and we'll get there. We go,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get in some tell me more. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: all right, well this is a good one, um, based
Speaker 1: on when we were just talking about um, Will Hernandez,
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport and DJ Moore all had awesome combines. Right,
Speaker 1: who's the better grab at nineteen in a situation where
Speaker 1: all the or obvious options are wiped out? I mean,
Speaker 1: just in general, I'm taking Davenport. But yeah, where's your
Speaker 1: playing on this team? Playing? Pay you playing you? Try
Speaker 1: him out the right? I mean the left end is
Speaker 1: playing at the right end, and move Taco to left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what Taco is generally playing as the left could
Speaker 1: be the swing guy there. Uh, you know, I think
Speaker 1: if I had to not think, I know, my higher
Speaker 1: grade would be more, I believe than on the other two. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that would be for me, more would make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Davenport would be my highest grade. And
Speaker 1: then I've Hernandez and More are gonna be really closer
Speaker 1: to go that. That's yeah, you can go. But those
Speaker 1: are three out if either one of those, any of
Speaker 1: those guys get the nineteen. Let's if those are your
Speaker 1: wipeout options. Yeah, that's not a lot. Not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: not a bad thing, ge gabs. We speaking of combine winners,
Speaker 1: we didn't mention our friend Shakim Griffin. Yeah outside the combine? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Where where would you draft him if he had two hands?
Speaker 1: That's the question here, I mean, which you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking he's climbed into third fourth round consideration with one.
Speaker 1: So you tell me, I mean assuming that he you know,
Speaker 1: could take on blocks and use that reach and do
Speaker 1: all that. I don't know, top fifty Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: I me personally though. But the guy had seventy some
Speaker 1: tackles I believe this year with one hand. Yeah, does
Speaker 1: that mean he has one hundred and forty. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't know if you can that's bad man.
Speaker 1: We can't assume just you can't you would hell no,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I me personally, I would have
Speaker 1: no problem putting him in the second round. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: two hands. Sure, absolutely, if it wasn't it, you know,
Speaker 1: but I still love the player. I talking to teams
Speaker 1: going into the combine fourth fifth round was kind of
Speaker 1: the feeling, now, if he goes top one hundred, no
Speaker 1: one should be shot. Was to be shocked. No, again,
Speaker 1: probably a sub package player, but you need those guys
Speaker 1: plus what brings the locker room absolutely what a great story.
Speaker 1: Ye special requests from our buddy Bobby. Which that's a
Speaker 1: good question. That shapes a lot about the way the
Speaker 1: draft process works out in these NFL front offices, which
Speaker 1: is basically, how do teams reconcile the difference of opinions
Speaker 1: between coaching and scouting and how does you know how
Speaker 1: is it that you wind up with so many differences
Speaker 1: of opinion anyway, Yeah, that's the tough thing. There's coaches.
Speaker 1: I mean, Parcels wanted nothing to do with the coaches
Speaker 1: in the room. He just took the coach's opinion out
Speaker 1: of the room, and then I was when I first
Speaker 1: came here, we were a very highly driven, coach dependent
Speaker 1: scouting department, even though we had guys that were really
Speaker 1: good and are still here. Some of these guys that
Speaker 1: are still good scouts are hanging in here. But that's
Speaker 1: a very difficult question because you don't want to just
Speaker 1: totally eliminate a coach's opinion because when I was in
Speaker 1: Philly and ninety eight, I needed those coaches. Sean Payton
Speaker 1: helped me so much line up the quarterbacks and stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to teams know which coaches can
Speaker 1: scout and which ones can't. You know, if you're a
Speaker 1: really savvy general manager a personnel guy, if a coach
Speaker 1: comes into pinion, you're like, okay, I need to think
Speaker 1: about this, or another coach would come in you're going,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna move on. You know, you need
Speaker 1: to know the makeup of the coach to have to
Speaker 1: have some balance. If you draft a player the coach
Speaker 1: doesn't like, it might be a wasted pick because he's
Speaker 1: not going to play him the way he needs to it. Really,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just making sure you're on the
Speaker 1: same page. You know, an example from last year the Browns,
Speaker 1: they draft your Bill Peppers in the first round. He
Speaker 1: played forty yards off the line of scrimmage. It's a
Speaker 1: free safety. Something he's never done before. Something is skill
Speaker 1: set is not. That's not what he's his strengths are.
Speaker 1: He's more of a box player. They I mean, I
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't have a free safety in the roster, so
Speaker 1: he got stuck there. But that's not what you draft
Speaker 1: him in the first round. Fright, it looks like a
Speaker 1: wasted pick. Not I didn't hate the pick by the
Speaker 1: front office, but the coaches weren't you know, on board
Speaker 1: with you know what he does as a football player.
Speaker 1: That's we always talk about the triangle. The Jones is
Speaker 1: at the top, the coaches, the scouts will in the middle.
Speaker 1: Try and figure that out though. That's the best way
Speaker 1: to work. Got time for one more. Absolutely, Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: didn't blow the combine away by any stretch with so
Speaker 1: Ross wants to know, you know, given the traits that
Speaker 1: we saw, what is it about him that that allows
Speaker 1: him to get separation and slashed? You know? What makes
Speaker 1: him the number one wide receiver prospect? In the draft.
Speaker 1: I know the explosion numbers weren't great. Thirty one inches
Speaker 1: nine too broad, So the explosion numbers weren't great four
Speaker 1: four three and the forty yard dash, okay, that's blazing,
Speaker 1: and then the three cone six eight eight. So the
Speaker 1: strength of Calvin Ridley, We've said it a million times,
Speaker 1: is his front running. Yeah, he's polished. He knows how
Speaker 1: to get open before and after the catch, and that
Speaker 1: shows with the combine data. I know he didn't have
Speaker 1: the great jumps, but again that his strength of the
Speaker 1: football player showed in Indianapolis, and that's I have no
Speaker 1: issues with him. People are overthinking Calvin Ridley. I mean
Speaker 1: the lack of production. Do you think that? Do you
Speaker 1: think that's because there isn't Okay, you say what you
Speaker 1: will about DJ Moore, but there hasn't really been an
Speaker 1: alternative in the conversation. I mean, you know, right, most
Speaker 1: years you have most years you have two or three
Speaker 1: guys to choose from in terms of who you like
Speaker 1: the best. This year and the last two or three years,
Speaker 1: it's been a bust filly well, but I think that's
Speaker 1: misleading because if you take it back five then it
Speaker 1: looks a hell of a lot better. You know, like
Speaker 1: three last two years have been rough, but it's been
Speaker 1: last two yars have been rough. Yeah, especially for guys
Speaker 1: going in the top half of the draft. But typically
Speaker 1: you have about four guys that you can really make
Speaker 1: the case for it, and this year it's more like
Speaker 1: one and a half. People just need to be realistic
Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley. But all right, if we don't have
Speaker 1: time to get to anybody else, yeah, first first edition
Speaker 1: of tell me More So Yeah, sorry about that, folks,
Speaker 1: Really am what I did. And hey, if we whatever
Speaker 1: we don't get to, we can answer on another show,
Speaker 1: um more than anybody else. So what I did was
Speaker 1: I went back and looked at Combine performances. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: really jumped out to me from guys that I had
Speaker 1: had no idea who they were. Right, guys we've never
Speaker 1: talked about. I don't think I've heard this name. I'm
Speaker 1: going to read off the measurables. First six five, two
Speaker 1: seventy five, thirty three and three quarter inch arms not
Speaker 1: basically ten inch hands. Ran a four seven three forty
Speaker 1: had a thirty two point five vert, had a seven
Speaker 1: point two three cone. These are freaky numbers and I've
Speaker 1: never heard this dude's name. Tell me more about Southern
Speaker 1: Cold and Rashim Green. How are you? Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: Day two player, he's, but he's more of a more
Speaker 1: of a flash player right now. You're drafting him based
Speaker 1: on the traits, not necessarily the tape. Is the tapes inconsistent?
Speaker 1: These traits are great, yeah they are, But what is he?
Speaker 1: Is he an interior player? Is he? Because get the
Speaker 1: wait again? H six five two seventy five? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: what where is his best spot? He might be best
Speaker 1: at a five technique and a three to four. When
Speaker 1: you look at him, you watch the tape, the technique,
Speaker 1: the discipline, it's it's in the development phase for him
Speaker 1: right now. He's still figuring all that all that out.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think he's gonna come in.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna like the world on fire in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's I'm not sure he's ready for NFL snaps. He
Speaker 1: really should have gone back to school. But again, the
Speaker 1: traits are really impressive, and someone's gonna take him in
Speaker 1: the second round. He probably almost have a red shirt
Speaker 1: ear as a fresh or, as a as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and then you know, year two might have a really
Speaker 1: good player doesn't have great bend. When you watch him rush,
Speaker 1: he he doesn't bend all that well. And he's better
Speaker 1: when he could play on the move. When he slam
Speaker 1: him down inside stuff. Dang's right. When you play him inside,
Speaker 1: he seems to be a bit more disruptive. We can
Speaker 1: be in the pocket, but he doesn't find the ball
Speaker 1: all that well. I saw a guy that always was
Speaker 1: kind of in personal battles and the ball is going
Speaker 1: by him and I'm like, going there it goes, you know. So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the numbers, he's a good looking guy on tape. Physically
Speaker 1: he looks like a great looking players. I mean that
Speaker 1: number ninety four sits on him really nice. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is he dangts right. He
Speaker 1: just is not that good of a football player right now. Well,
Speaker 1: and he has his moments because he did have ten
Speaker 1: saxes year. He was him in mad Offer with the
Speaker 1: only two in the Pac twelve that a double digit sacks.
Speaker 1: So he has some production, but it came in spurts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not any consistency. I I don't know. I mean, he
Speaker 1: I could say I watched Ohio State Arizona notre name
Speaker 1: in Colorado, and I came away with I didn't come
Speaker 1: away with a guy. I thought a guy more than
Speaker 1: as a left end than I did a right end. Right. Yeah, sacks,
Speaker 1: team needs left ends too. I said about Taco, all Um,
Speaker 1: all right, this guy, Dane's gonna know this guy. Dane
Speaker 1: has seen this guy because Dan was at the Shrine
Speaker 1: game and we weren't. But he ran at four four
Speaker 1: five at six three, two hundred, So tell me more
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma State safety Trey Flowers. Really surprised he ran
Speaker 1: that fast because yeah, play that fast four five four
Speaker 1: guy coming out and he he looks like a strong safety.
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised that he didn't get over two hundred
Speaker 1: pounds because he's really thick. Um. But I don't trust
Speaker 1: him in coverage. Uh, he's got some issues there and
Speaker 1: as a run defender, it's very up and down. I
Speaker 1: don't know I saw a Day three player, but the
Speaker 1: gods are good. Yeah. No, he gets fooled on double moves.
Speaker 1: You watch this guy playing coverage and all of sudden
Speaker 1: they're running double moves, they're behind him. He does his
Speaker 1: cousin got him yea and bed them. Yeah. He doesn't
Speaker 1: take flowers, he doesn't take the best angles. He doesn't
Speaker 1: always play with his eyes. There's time where he'll turn
Speaker 1: really leggy. Guy, he's real tass. He's got this leggy
Speaker 1: backpedal in it takes him a little bit of time
Speaker 1: to turn it. I thought he's a little slow to
Speaker 1: react as well. So I think Dane's right though with
Speaker 1: the Day three stuff. My comparison for him Cavon Frasier,
Speaker 1: that was in my report. That's why I wrote as
Speaker 1: a comparison for him. Cavon's not that tall though. No,
Speaker 1: the size dimensions don't really match up. But that the
Speaker 1: play style, yeah, play style, Yeah. Can he hit like Cavon?
Speaker 1: He can? Ye? No, no, No, he's a physical tackler.
Speaker 1: Guy's a physical, physical player. All right. This is I mean,
Speaker 1: we know this guy. He was a Senior Bowl guy.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I feel it. I feel like we
Speaker 1: talked about him a lot at the Senior Bowl. Although
Speaker 1: he did play well, and then he goes out and
Speaker 1: runs a four or four six. I love this guy's tape,
Speaker 1: but I want y'all to tell me more about Florida
Speaker 1: corner Duke Dawson. It's my guy. He ran faster and expected.
Speaker 1: Sure did. That's what I'm saying, he sure did. He's
Speaker 1: one of a handful of Nichols five. Yeah, not the
Speaker 1: biggest guy, but again, put him in the nickel and
Speaker 1: he's tough. He's physical at the top of rounds. He
Speaker 1: can test everything thrown his way. There's a lot to
Speaker 1: like about Duke Dawson. Yeah, I'm okay. I think Danes
Speaker 1: got him right there. I think this guy moves pretty
Speaker 1: easily though I'm just looking at my notes. He has
Speaker 1: a feel for how to stay in position, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think he's a very competitive guy. I saw
Speaker 1: a balance, I saw body control. Dane's right about playing
Speaker 1: the slot. I think he gets his eyes around for
Speaker 1: the ball too. I mean there's times when you see
Speaker 1: him like he's gonna carrying a guy and he looks
Speaker 1: back and there's the ball, and I like to change
Speaker 1: the direction. I think he'd work in and out of routes.
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to tackle better. That's that was
Speaker 1: one of my kind of my things about him though.
Speaker 1: But I like that the physicality of the player, the reaction.
Speaker 1: I just wish he would tackle a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Better nickel defender him or m J. Stewart, North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Brian likes MJ. I like m J. Stewart, but I
Speaker 1: will I'll take Dawson. I will. You got him both
Speaker 1: day two? Yeah, I do. All right. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: get Derwin James, which is why I keep looking at safeties,
Speaker 1: which Dane brought this guy up today, which made me
Speaker 1: really happy. Six one two h six ran a four
Speaker 1: four one six point eight nine three cone thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half vert. Tell me more about Arizona safety
Speaker 1: Dane crookshankka Hey, great name, Dane Crookshank reminds me of
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. Awesome, love it all the way around. Uh
Speaker 1: is a good player. Yeah, where do you play? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really the biggest question because he can move kind
Speaker 1: of like a corner a little bit. He played that
Speaker 1: overhang spur defender for Arizona. But he's got speed, he does,
Speaker 1: and you know me about it. Yeah, And you know
Speaker 1: the think about him is though you see the change
Speaker 1: of direction for the guy when they when they run
Speaker 1: routes underneath, he can like adjust they try and run
Speaker 1: like option routes. He's like can pivot get back inside.
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out where to play. I
Speaker 1: think he's a strong safe. I think it's strong. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he's a strong safety because you want to
Speaker 1: play him down. I think he's big enough and physical
Speaker 1: enough to handle tight ends and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1: You put him in the top one hundred, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that that's a good chance. That's where he's gonna
Speaker 1: come off the board somewhere. It's second, third round, absolutely
Speaker 1: eighty one. He's in a conversation, all right, that's strong safety. Hey,
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