1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Did. He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: your war room for in center news and draft analysis 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Star in Pre School Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: We welcome you to the Draft Show here the SWBC 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. Thank you very much for hanging out with 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: us today. I appreciate all the fine work guys like 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: Kent Garrison and our engineers here at the Star did 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: to get us on the air. It wasn't easy. We 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: have a basketball tournament here, the Conference USA Basketball tournament 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: is here at the at the Ford Center, and so 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on in the air, 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: and that's what kind of got us knocked out. But 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: we're back because we've got really skillful people that are 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: doing great things behind the scenes. You got myself, Brian Broughts, 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and as I mentioned, Kent Garrison, 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: executive producing guys. We just got back from the combine, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: had the workouts yesterday. We saw the linebackers, defensive lineman 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: work on Sunday, and then we saw defensive backs workout yesterday, 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: So those kids were flying yesterday. Huh. Best athletes of 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: the group. I mean, yeah, we had such a great 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: first few days and then yes yesterday Monday, the DB's 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, Denzel Warg, Alexander we had I think it 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: was fifteen players under four to four, which is a 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: record for the combine. It's these guys, these athletes are 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, there's in David. I mean it was. 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: It's one of those things when you're watching those kids 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: work out, and I'm always one of those guys that 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: and we talked about this a bunch when we're Indie 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: that you know, if if I could see it on tape, 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, if the workout, I mean, if I could 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: see it, you usually could tell if a guy can 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: really really run or not. And but there were some 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: kids that that were that play that ran better than 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: how they play on tape. And then there's some kids 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: that said, okay, yeah, hey these guys can play. You 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: kind of get the match there with the two guys. 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: So and I'm thinking about the Alabama kids that the 40 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: two corners from Alabama and how different those guys were 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: as far as the speed if you know, you know, 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: with talking about Minka and Tony no with with well, 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the corners, is what I was 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: thinking about? Yeah, yeah, avorite you know was a was 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: a official time of a fourth four three six and 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: then you know, and then but though his teammate was 47 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: in the four sixes, you know, so I mean I 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: was just kind of thinking about you know, Levi Wallace. 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're both really really good players. So it's 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: just kind of it's one of those things sometimes you 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: see guys he's thinking, Man, he doesn't, he doesn't play 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: that way. He plays this way. But just your thoughts, though, 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Dave is as we wrap that thing up, um, light 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: are my thoughts my? I mean, I think I said 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: this when we were still up in India. Is I'm 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: just confused. I can't. I can't wrap my head around 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: this draft class. And um the main thing for me 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: is maybe you know, I don't, and maybe it's because 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we try to do such a good 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: job of turning over every stone before we get up there, 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Like there's nobody, there's nobody who like really blew me 62 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: away at the combine who I didn't already feel good about. 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: There's no you know, I you know, a couple of 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: years ago Byron Jones is the famous one he kind 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: of like jumped into everybody's consciousness. I'm not. I'm not. 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not falling for it this year in terms of, like, 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: there's nobody that really just stands out to me in 68 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: terms of purely their combine. Uh So, you know, like 69 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: you guys love to say you use this to cross 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: check sure and that that works out really well and 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: in a lot of these cases of these elite talents 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: who had really great weekends at the combine. Other than that, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not super surprised by anything I saw. 74 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: And the main thing is, um, I don't think it 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: really did much to clear up this jumble of a draft, 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: at least not to this point. Not in my opinion, 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of goes it kind of goes to the point 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: that maybe that the top of this thing might not 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: be is is. It's not easy. It's not easy at all. No, 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: But but I kind of feel like though maybe when 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: we're sitting in this studio on day two and then 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: going into day three, we're gonna have some fun. Everybody 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: loves the draft, but I know it's gonna be thrilling, 84 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: even in the first round. I think you think it's 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna be thrilling. Yeah, what drafts not thrilling? But I 86 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: know the draft's thrilling. But I'm just saying, oh, you 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: just I like, but do you kind of feel like 88 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: it could go chalk? I mean, who we kind of? 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at your mock draft and I'm 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of thinking, Okay, I could see it go that way. 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm firstly a lot better coming out of this combine 92 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: about these players than I think I've ever felt. I 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: don't know, I just I felt like what we sought 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the combine pretty much for the most part match what 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: we on tape. There's a few guys I want to 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: go back and look, you know, like Justin Reid from 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Stanford off tape gave him borderline top one hundred grade. Yeah, 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: and he tested much better than he plays. Yeah, here's 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: my quote always on read his name is better than playing. 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: A name is better than tape. Younger brother of Verry Korey. Yeah, sure, 101 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I actually I've watched him. Yeah, didn't 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: blow me away. Um, you know, guys like Troyaki from 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Penn State safety who kind of fun to watch. Yeah, 104 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you know his tape is. I didn't get around to 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: him until the week before the Combine, and I was 106 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised because he can play. He's kind of a 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: free safety or a strong safety and a free safety body. 108 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't play for three the time that he produced 109 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: at the Combine. But he's not a bad athlete either. 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: He can run, he can hit. Not the best cover safety, 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: but there's a place in the NFL for a guy 112 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: like that, especially with what he can do on special teams. 113 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: And this is a guy that signed with Penn State 114 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver, moved to safety, finally got on 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the field as a senior as a full time starter, 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: and he took advantage of his opportunity. Him and Marcus 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Allen put together a nice little safety combo. And I 118 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: mean Penn State that program itself. If they had the 119 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Olympics for metals, not a great play, State would have 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: won the They would been the going away for the medals. 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: Penn Penn State people are gonna look back like like 122 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: people love to give and they were on and they 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: were on probation or they lost all those lost scholarship. Yeah, 124 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: I mean all the things. Yeah, I mean, and hey, 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: and we knew, we knew Berkeley, we knew I mean 126 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: Gasecki to a certain degree. He performed even better than 127 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: we expected. But apkey, Grant Haley had a great Grant Haley, 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, where did that come from? People are gonna 129 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Grant Haley. He's a good player. 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Like people make fun of LSU because Jarvis Landry and 131 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Odell and Jeremy Hill all played there and they didn't 132 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: win anything. It's like, say, Quan and Gasecki and Chris 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Godwin and Hamilton, we're all on this team and y'all 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: didn't win more stuff. And the best receiver from that 135 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: team is an under classman who will probably see next 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about next year at this time. My god, 137 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: So Trace McSorley had plenty of talent around him, and 138 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: then on defense, they were just missing, like that stud 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: defensive lineman on that Penn State team because they had 140 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: everything else combind to linebacker. The secondary is full of 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: NFL dudes. Christian Campbell to corner didn't even work out. 142 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: He'll work out the Pro day. He's an NFL guy. Wait, 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I want to hijack this for a second. I mean, okay, 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: it's a great three hundred marker Salad too. We didn't 145 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: even talk about him. Safety. Three hundred and thirty six 146 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: guys get invited all across the spectrum of the draft range. 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: But do you and you feel confident about these guys 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: because it matches what you've seen, But do you really 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: feel like the first round's gonna be chalk? Because I 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: think I just think what's gonna be. People are gonna 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: lock in. I think it's gonna be nuts. I think 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: it he's got this right, I mean it's not. I 153 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: don't think it'll be chalk. Well, I can break this 154 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: thing down for you. You're talking about who are the 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: wild cards in the first say fifteen picks. The thing 156 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: is we're gonna have trades. We always do, and sure, 157 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: but they're gonna trade. They're gonna trade for guys that 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna trade up for guys that are that should 159 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: be picked. There. Let let okay, you're talking at least four, 160 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: if not five, huge upset you think in the top 161 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: fifteen huge upset. It's just it's where did the where 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: did the quarterbacks go? Okay, of course, but we kind 163 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: of think that the quarterbacks are all top fifteen worthy, 164 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: with the exception Worthies a separate conversation. But will they 165 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: go tough? Okay, Okay, I could see all five doing that. Okay, 166 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: when it's all set and done, I could see all 167 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: five give me the upset in the top fifteen. Let's well, 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: let's think about this and then the other point. On 169 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: top of all those quarterbacks, you got Quentin Nelson and 170 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, who are widely regarded as probably the top 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: two prospects. Saw saw they play positions that people don't 172 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: want to draft. And I have not seen I have 173 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: not seen Quintin Nelson go any lower than nine. No, 174 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: and he will. I would be surprised if you see. 175 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: To me, that's an upset. It qualifies to me as 176 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: an upset. If Quentin Nelson goes to the Bears at eight, 177 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that's an upset based on everything y'all are telling me 178 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: about how good this guy. Sure, but we saw some guys, 179 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: some top five guys. I qualifies as an upset to me. 180 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: If I think this draft starts after fifteen at Arizona, Yeah, 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean I get what you're saying, because I think 182 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: we have. Are you just discounting the first half? I 183 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: just think it's gonna date Bruglar. I think I keep 184 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: looking at his mock draft, I think he's gonna be 185 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: right well, and I agree with about the players. I 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: think some of the destinations and where they go, the marriages. 187 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm trying to say is I don't 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna be Who's gonna be Who's gonna be 189 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: the upset guy, the one guy that I think it's 190 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: messed us all up? Well, I'm gonna do an updated 191 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: mock draft later this week, and spoiler, my Cowboys pick 192 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: will be a guy we've been talking about as a 193 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: top fifteen player in this draft. Oh, okay, a guy 194 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna fall a little bits. Tease he's not. He 195 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: doesn't play as college football in Tuscaloosa, does he? He 196 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: plays his college football in the United States? Are you who? Uh? 197 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: We'll tease that. We'll okay, I'll make sure and do 198 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: that mock before Thursday, our next half show. We just 199 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: talk about it. We can talk about that, um because 200 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: we know you love to do mock drafts. Yeah, but 201 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: mean out of the combine, it's only fair I'm serious. 202 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I get what you're saying, because, yeah, you 203 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: know the tremain Edmunds, Yeah yeah, the Denzel Wars. Yeah, 204 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: you know Denzel Wars kind of get that. Go get 205 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: a little rhythm now, but little Okay, draft, I want 206 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: to clarify. I think Dane's got it right. I'm not 207 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna be surprised by the fifteen players. I love the draft, 208 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, but I think we're gonna be very surprised 209 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: by where those fifteen guys go. I really do. But 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: whether it's trades, whether it's a guy falling, whether it's 211 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: some I mean, you know, like to me and y'all 212 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: are free to disagree. But like, if Baker Mayfield goes 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: in the top five, to me, that's surprising. But it might, 214 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, some team might decide that's the way that 215 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: they want to go. But it's the quarterbacks, right, that's 216 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: kind of the wild cards quarterbacks every year. Like, and 217 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: I think I don't think you can understand all the 218 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: fact that, like I said, two of the most well 219 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: rounded prospects in this class don't play sexy positions, at 220 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: least not in terms of the top of the draft board. 221 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's going to be interesting. It 222 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: will be interesting, especially with the quarterbacks and the trades 223 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: that we see. Again, first Domino that needs to fall 224 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: as Kirk Cousins, if he goes to Minnesota, then all 225 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the teams we've been talking about, 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: like the Jets, the Broncos, teams that were potentially looking 227 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: to get Kirk Cousins, they're going to be in the 228 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: quarterback market in But if kirk Cousins goes New York, 229 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: goes to Denver somewhere else, that eliminates a possibility in 230 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. So it creates more intrigue about Buffalo 231 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: using twenty one and twenty two to trade up somewhere 232 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: in the top twelve to get their quarterback. It's it's 233 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: really going to be fascinating see how it plays out. 234 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, who walking away 235 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: from the combine, is there one two couple names that 236 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,359 Speaker 1: stand out to you as guys that really helped themselves 237 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: just compared to perception going into the combine. That's a 238 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: really good question. Paired to perception, well, I think that 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: you know what, Let me ask you that perception being bad, bad, perception, perception. 240 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: How about this, okay, how about Ward being short? Yeah, definitely. 241 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: You know everybody's thinking, oh, he's a tiny guy. Well 242 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: five ten and seven eighth so eleven yea and over 243 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: thirty one. He's he's one of the best players in 244 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: his draft if he if But everybody's perception was he 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: was a tiny guy. I hate, you know, kind of exaggerating, 246 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: but he's a lock top ten pick. Sure, he is 247 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: a lock. I'll say that right now. He is a 248 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: locktop ten picks. You cannot get me one reason why 249 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna fall out of the top ten. I know 250 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy. He's not six two, five 251 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: eleven's fine, that's good enough. So Denzel Ward. If you're 252 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: doing a mock draft and Denzel war is not your 253 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: top ten, just crumble it up, start over. I swear 254 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: to God, I'm not doing this to just how to 255 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: be a bit. I'm not trying to I'm not trying 256 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: to piss Dayan off. But I mean, how many guys 257 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: grew two inches at the combine? I mean, not only 258 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: did DJ Moore grow two inches compared to what everybody 259 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: thought about him, our favorite wide receiver did too. He 260 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: ran a solid, much faster forty time than a lot 261 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: of people thought, so like two of the biggest things 262 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: on him. He corrected very very himself. Well, no, yeah, 263 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: him too. It's yeah, who did you say? DJ? We'll 264 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: say this about DJ Moore, right, you know, talking about 265 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: a guy like Rashaun Golden who didn't run or perform 266 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: as expected athletically. But I'm trusting the tape on now 267 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: one because it's it's one. Yeah. On the flip side, 268 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: as much as I love DJ Moore, he doesn't play 269 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: like a four four two athlete on film. No, but 270 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. But I do feel good 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: about the forty time because it wasn't a four five six. Yeah, 272 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: and he plays on tape we thought four five five Well, 273 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean I know I did. I can't speak for 274 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: you on that. I thought on tape he was a 275 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: four four eight to four or five two player, Okay, So, 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, I was a little worried that. You know, 277 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: you just never know what the forty yard dash, you know, 278 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the start, the finish, and it's easy to screw that 279 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: up as a you know, unless you have that track background. 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: But he was blazing and at the four four two. 281 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: He doesn't play like that, so I'm not gonna just 282 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: move him all the way up the draft board. But 283 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: coming in taller than expected, that's definitely a big deal. 284 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: And again top thirty. He was thirty overall my first 285 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: draft board. Hit my second draft board, he will definitely 286 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: be higher, mostly because of the height. Trying to think, 287 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: who else do you like? I'll give you a guy. 288 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: How about you like Chubbs numbers except for the three cone? Yeah, 289 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: is that amazing? This guy's the This guy is the 290 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: best pass rushing the draft. Yeah, he's a top five pick, 291 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: but we knew he's not a Von Miller guy, you know, 292 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: quick redirection. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, though, you're buying 293 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: into the fact he's a different type of rusher. Yeah, 294 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy that can he has good 295 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: get off, he can use his power mid rush. Uh, 296 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: uses that length and that forward balance. He's not that 297 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: quick redirection guy. He's gonna drop playing space. So the 298 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: three cone doesn't bother me too much much. Uh, he's 299 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: a top five pick. Could you check the numbers on 300 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Tevin Bryan from Florida or a d lineman for nine 301 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: eight that that doesn't seem like him, doesn't. Yeah that 302 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: that he's a fantastic athlete. That's what I'm saying, though, 303 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there were some of these guys that I'm 304 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of looking at. I'm looking at it. I'm going 305 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, the twenty shuttle four for eight, that doesn't 306 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: seem right for a guy like that that plays with 307 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: the explosiveness that he does. I know, and a lot 308 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: of people ask me about him. He's the undertackle from 309 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Florida that people came to with with with the situation 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: with Hurst and you know, our thoughts with him. But now, okay, 311 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: some of these three techniques are going to be I mean, 312 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: he's he could be very well one of those guys 313 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: that's in the mix for that, you know. Yeah, I 314 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I'm with you though. I like 315 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Davin Bran with you. I love what you just did. 316 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: He didn't even let him say anything. Oh I knew 317 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: what he was doing, you know, my side by Now 318 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I knew it's work when you work with somebody for 319 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: five years and you and you and you know exactly 320 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: what he's gonna say. I get it. Yeah. My comparison 321 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: for Tavin Bryan is Robert Candici not off the field. 322 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: On the field. Yeah that's good. Yeah, good clarification, you know, 323 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: and that one a very athletic pass rusher who there's 324 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: some discipline issues again on the field, not off the field. Uh, 325 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: just doesn't really know what he's doing. You. Flashes are great, 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: but again you're just if you're taking him in the 327 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: top twenty five, you're banking on the rest catching up 328 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: because he's for him to live up to that, I 329 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: have a draft pick, uh what about you know, we 330 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to as a draft show 331 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to recap uh some of these defensive positions. Yeah. A 332 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: guy that really stood up for me yesterday Monday with 333 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: their dB group was Gyre Alexander from Louisville. Yeah, talking 334 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: to me, he made a name for himself for sure 335 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: in my Good Football Player my first draft board, he 336 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: was nineteen overall as my my number four corner. I 337 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: had Minca, Denzel Ward, Mike Hughes, and then Gayre Alexander 338 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: top twenty pick. And you know, I I heard it 339 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: from a lot of people because I had him ahead 340 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: of Jackson. I heard a lot of people asking me 341 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: about that, and coming out of the combine, I feel 342 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: even stronger about it with the way they performed. And 343 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: Gi Alexander not the biggest guy, just a hair over 344 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: five to ten, Yeah, but fourth, three, eight and the 345 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: forty great numbers across the board. He's the short shuttle. 346 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: He's a big time player. Yeah that's six was it? Six? 347 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Seven one in the three cone? Yeah? Come on, you 348 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: know what I would, I would short shuttle. Yeah. So 349 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying I would push you. I would you, and 350 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I would Roman Greco wrestle. If you said that you 351 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: had him over, if you didn't have if you had 352 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Jackson over him, Well, if you Josh Jackson your least 353 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: favorite big time prospect. I love that king kid last 354 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: year from Iowa and I and I and I respect 355 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the heck out of Iowa players. That Joe, that Jewel. 356 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't care what he runs. Throw on the tape. 357 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: He's a good player. Yeah, say that's what I'm saying. 358 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Throw on the tape. Put on the tape. These guys 359 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: make plays. Just throw on the tape. See that's again. 360 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: I Alexander the whole time, I was like, well he 361 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: ran that. I'm just kinda so that's what he that's 362 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: how he is. That's the type of player he is. 363 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: This tape will tell you a lot if you just 364 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: watch it, as long as the medicals are Okay, he's 365 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: he's a top twenty player. Please. Well he plays cornerback too. 366 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean yes again, not the biggest guy. You can't 367 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: discount that. Uh. And then one other guy who we 368 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: might need to wrest, Dante Jackson. We might wrestle over 369 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: this one, Layton Vanderesh. Some of those numbers, man, Oh, 370 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna lose sixty four, two hundred and 371 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: fifty six pounds thirty four inch arms. Well, I am 372 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: not going to go down the Joey Bosa path on 373 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: this four sixty five forty yard dash thirty nine and 374 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: a half in verse six, eight eighty three cone. Good 375 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: for him, this is that's impressive. I'm glad. I'm glad 376 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: that I like. I don't watch the Cowboys take that guy. 377 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: I'd have to watch him play for four year. You 378 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: won't be there at fifty. I promise you that I 379 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a scout. So, oh, nineteen, you 380 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: can't rule it out. Nineteen he's gonna I think I 381 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: asked you for shocking things in the top fift there's 382 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: a better chance he goes late first round than early second. Okay, 383 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: I agree late so I nineteen is That's what I'm saying. 384 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: If he's gonna go late first round, then he at 385 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: least needs to be walk. I wonder if I walk 386 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the draft if if he if he used to pick you, 387 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: just leave the studio. I take my headset off, just 388 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: finish it out that we'll see great story is a 389 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: great kid. You'll love him here in Dallas. I watched him. 390 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I watched him play, and I didn't come away impressed. 391 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: But if if Dane tells me he's a guy, I'm 392 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: just gonna trust the expert. I watched his first the 393 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: first half of the season, and I was, he's gonna 394 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: but you know doesn't get Then you watch that Oregon 395 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: game and you fell in love with him because they 396 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: couldn't block him because they kept messing up the second 397 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: level block. Not just as the Oregon game, but the 398 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: second half of the season. I thought, he I saw, 399 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I will sit down to watch Hutter. I will sit 400 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: down and watch him. I see a guy where the 401 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: light bulb is illuminating. It's getting brighter and brighter and brighter. 402 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: The more I say, I'm telling you he was his 403 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: his first year as a starter. Don't you see things clear? 404 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: You're a gut scout. You're a gut scout. Aren't all scout? No? No, 405 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: he's he is a gut scout. He is. He uses 406 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: his eyes, but he's a gut scout. You're gut about him. 407 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Initially I think is I think you're going to be 408 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: right there? Initial your initial thought. Well, but again that 409 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: was based on earlier in the season. Okay, and then 410 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: again I went back and watched the second half. That's 411 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: where I got, Okay, he's doing these things. This is 412 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: the problem. You start in December January when we start 413 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: start start like crawfishing on these guys. Oh no, I 414 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't have this. You should learn a 415 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: lesson from twenty seventeen and embrace yourself for them to 416 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: draft a guy you might not like that much at 417 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: nineteen saying is there anybody Layton vandersh anybody that we 418 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: weren't talking about extensively at nineteen before the combine that 419 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: we should be now as a possibility, speaking of how 420 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: come Dane's asking all these great questions when you're the host? Huh? No, 421 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: this is this is dealing the carpet right out from underneath. No, no, 422 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: I asked those questions. I thought we asked those questions 423 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: when we were breaking the other. That's well, I did 424 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: ask that question. I don't want to notions that come 425 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: up during dinner and at the combine exactly. That's Day 426 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: and Dave are powering down a tomahawk chop. I can't 427 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: believe we had to talk you into them. I'm still 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: sweating over Let's I don't know. It's good. That's good conversation. 429 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: That's what we do. No, let's well, let's really think 430 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: about that. Okay. Alexander, which this team doesn't need a 431 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: cornerback at nineteen, but Alexander's a name that comes to mind. Hughes, 432 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Mike Hughes. What about Harold Landry? Oh, and he doesn't 433 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: have the size dimensions this team looks for if they 434 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: but he's a first round give him your watch, give 435 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: him your wat discussion, give him the smaller than what 436 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: he's He's smaller than what and identical in all of 437 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: his in all of his analytics, like everything about him 438 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: that is that gonna fly over on that side of 439 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: the building. Other than the fact that he put his 440 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: ho you were right about what you were right about what. 441 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: I give you credit for what you're right about him. 442 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: But I'm just let's let's let's just how many times 443 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna get hit over the head before you realize 444 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: what's going on? No, I trust I'm throwing it out there. 445 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I know, but heya tell me this, Dan, based on 446 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: what we saw from Harold Landry, right, based on what 447 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: we saw from Harold Landry, is it realistic to think 448 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: he's there at nineteen? Uh? This is not a strong 449 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: This is not a strong pass rusher close you have think, guy, 450 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna mock. No. I mean he could go he 451 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: could go green Bay, he could go Washing thirteen. I've 452 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: seen him in green Bay linked a lot, and it 453 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: seems like green Bay still played a three four right, yeah, Pett, Yeah, 454 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I just you know, and and hey, I'll be right 455 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: here to admit that I'm wrong when I'm wrong. But 456 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: it's it would be so weird if a year after 457 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: they pass on what because of his measurables, they decide 458 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: to draft the same type of player. All right, well, 459 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: here we go here one year later, same spot. Uh, 460 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Harold Landry six O two three, two fifty two. Okay, yeah, 461 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence six or two seven, two fifty one untill 462 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a half inch is the difference? What's your reach? What's 463 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: your reach? Thirty thirty two and seven eights on that arm, 464 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. De Markus Lawrens in front of me, 465 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: let me yeah, I can look it up. Yeah, or 466 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: Draft twenty fourteen. Although this is where I point I'm 467 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: gonna call it. I'm gonna call Landry's thirty two and 468 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: seven eights, so thirty three. Yeah, This is where I 469 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: point out that DeMarcus was pick thirty four. I don't 470 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: know if that makes it. I mean, that's a half 471 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: a round. They traded up for him, they did, they 472 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: did still other Raiders, and I was all for that. 473 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I I gave de Marcus Lawrence the first 474 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: round grade, so I was all all in favor of 475 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: that move. I'll tell you him at nineteen though, yeah, 476 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, i'd love to say I'd love to say yeah, 477 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: but again I'm kind of thinking of what, you know, 478 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: why Dave's point is, why would they This has nothing 479 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the kitchen, This has nothing to do with the player. 480 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I mean, and hey, I mean, 481 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: it's love the guys over there, but the same as saying, 482 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, Drawn Payne at nineteen yeah, right, yeah, Are 483 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: they going to value that enough to take him at that? Well, 484 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Stephen Jones told you that 485 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: if the guy has got three technique traits, they would 486 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: do it if he was a one. So I mean, 487 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I I that's kind of one of those things that 488 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'd love a Landry. I Lawrence was 489 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: thirty three and three quarters? Okay, so is the quarters 490 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: different defensive coordinator here too? I think, um, I think 491 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: that was technically Rod's first year. Is that Rod's first year, 492 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Rodd's first year after getting promoted, So it's it's it's 493 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 1: worth talking about. I'm not completely ruling it out. Let 494 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: me ask you this, ask you guy, did Let me 495 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: ask you about Davenport. Did he help himself a ton 496 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: with the four five eight? I think he he's probably 497 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: going to go ahead of Landry. I would guess he's 498 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: got the same twenty shuttle as Uh Chubb. I believe 499 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: he met with the cowboys up there, for whatever that's worth. Yeah, 500 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: he definitely fits the more of the size dimensions of 501 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: what this team's looking for too, Is there not? Before 502 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: we get way too departed from the original question, is 503 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: there a guy that we had not mentioned in that 504 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: realm of possibility that we've covered the receivers, we've covered 505 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: the guards, we've covered the one technique, we covered the 506 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: three until he had the condition. I get, Well, my 507 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: main thing is there we've talked about safety. Would you 508 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: would you? Because everybody wants James, but I just don't 509 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: see that happen. It's not James is not going to 510 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: be a consideration here because he won't be there, not 511 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 1: because this team won't like him quarterback. Yeah, sure, lamar 512 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Um Actually on the radio this morning, Let's say Quentin 513 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Nelson goes high and then Isaiah Wind goes eighteen to 514 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: see Adol. Well, Hernandez, is he consideration for you? He 515 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: had a great combine. Yeah, I know, I know, I 516 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: know you wouldn't want to do it. I wouldn't, but yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes, 517 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: put him in that mix. Well, okay, my third best guard. 518 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: We're still talking about guys that we've talked about, though, 519 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, how about okay, Like, and we've talked about 520 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: him too, but maybe not at nineteen like we talked 521 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: about the line back to some depth. That's what I'm saying, 522 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: is Rashaan Evans do anything for you. Not at nineteen. 523 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: He could be there, you could be in considerate. I 524 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: mean him and vander Esh are both in that late 525 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: first See he's got the vander Esh thing. He's got 526 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: that train going forward. What about Ronnie Harrison? No, no, no, 527 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean no, no, no, Yeah, I've got other safeties 528 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I like better than Harrison. Okay, just that's just but 529 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: that's me that might not be there trying to cover 530 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: my bases here. Yeah, where would you have Harrison? This 531 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: relation to the safeties, it's your second best safety, third 532 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: best safety. Uh seconds, he's in the mix. He's in 533 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: the second round mix with Golden and Beats. Yeah, watch 534 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: that kid last. I mean, hey, real quick, okay, I'll 535 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna take We're 536 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We gotta take a break. Here, 537 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: take a break. I want to get some of your 538 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: Twitter questions and then we got tell me more. Yeah, okay, 539 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: so we'll do that. We'll do we'll take a break, 540 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: come back, We'll give everybody a little chance to reset. 541 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: We'll do Twitter on the twenty and then we'll do 542 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: some tell me more. 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Actually, you're more than 579 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation, and 580 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: so is at and T doing their part to keep 581 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: you connected to America's team all season law At and 582 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: t is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. This is 583 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: that Dallas Cowboys dot Com drafted you Cowboys on the back. 584 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: Here in the swb BC Mortgage Studios, Brian brought us 585 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Dame Brewler, David Hellman, Kent Garrison. Let's get into it quick. 586 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I thought we had a lot more time than we do, 587 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: but we really don't because short schedule. Really sorry about that. 588 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Back Thursday with a lot that give me a couple 589 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: of questions on Twitter and we'll get there. We go, 590 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll get in some tell me more. Okay, Um, 591 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: all right, well this is a good one, um, based 592 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: on when we were just talking about um, Will Hernandez, 593 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport and DJ Moore all had awesome combines. Right, 594 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: who's the better grab at nineteen in a situation where 595 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: all the or obvious options are wiped out? I mean, 596 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: just in general, I'm taking Davenport. But yeah, where's your 597 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: playing on this team? Playing? Pay you playing you? Try 598 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: him out the right? I mean the left end is 599 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: playing at the right end, and move Taco to left. Yeah, 600 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: that's what Taco is generally playing as the left could 601 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: be the swing guy there. Uh, you know, I think 602 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: if I had to not think, I know, my higher 603 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: grade would be more, I believe than on the other two. Yeah, yeah, 604 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: so that would be for me, more would make a 605 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Davenport would be my highest grade. And 606 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: then I've Hernandez and More are gonna be really closer 607 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: to go that. That's yeah, you can go. But those 608 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: are three out if either one of those, any of 609 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 1: those guys get the nineteen. Let's if those are your 610 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: wipeout options. Yeah, that's not a lot. Not a bad thing, 611 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: not a bad thing, ge gabs. We speaking of combine winners, 612 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: we didn't mention our friend Shakim Griffin. Yeah outside the combine? Yeah, yeah, 613 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: Where where would you draft him if he had two hands? 614 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: That's the question here, I mean, which you know, we're 615 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: talking he's climbed into third fourth round consideration with one. 616 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: So you tell me, I mean assuming that he you know, 617 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: could take on blocks and use that reach and do 618 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: all that. I don't know, top fifty Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 619 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I me personally though. But the guy had seventy some 620 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: tackles I believe this year with one hand. Yeah, does 621 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: that mean he has one hundred and forty. But that's 622 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: the thing. I don't know if you can that's bad man. 623 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: We can't assume just you can't you would hell no, 624 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I me personally, I would have 625 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: no problem putting him in the second round. Yeah, with 626 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: two hands. Sure, absolutely, if it wasn't it, you know, 627 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: but I still love the player. I talking to teams 628 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: going into the combine fourth fifth round was kind of 629 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: the feeling, now, if he goes top one hundred, no 630 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: one should be shot. Was to be shocked. No, again, 631 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: probably a sub package player, but you need those guys 632 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: plus what brings the locker room absolutely what a great story. 633 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: Ye special requests from our buddy Bobby. Which that's a 634 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: good question. That shapes a lot about the way the 635 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: draft process works out in these NFL front offices, which 636 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: is basically, how do teams reconcile the difference of opinions 637 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: between coaching and scouting and how does you know how 638 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: is it that you wind up with so many differences 639 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: of opinion anyway, Yeah, that's the tough thing. There's coaches. 640 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Parcels wanted nothing to do with the coaches 641 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: in the room. He just took the coach's opinion out 642 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: of the room, and then I was when I first 643 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: came here, we were a very highly driven, coach dependent 644 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: scouting department, even though we had guys that were really 645 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: good and are still here. Some of these guys that 646 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: are still good scouts are hanging in here. But that's 647 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: a very difficult question because you don't want to just 648 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 1: totally eliminate a coach's opinion because when I was in 649 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: Philly and ninety eight, I needed those coaches. Sean Payton 650 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: helped me so much line up the quarterbacks and stuff. 651 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to teams know which coaches can 652 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: scout and which ones can't. You know, if you're a 653 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: really savvy general manager a personnel guy, if a coach 654 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: comes into pinion, you're like, okay, I need to think 655 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: about this, or another coach would come in you're going, 656 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna move on. You know, you need 657 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: to know the makeup of the coach to have to 658 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: have some balance. If you draft a player the coach 659 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: doesn't like, it might be a wasted pick because he's 660 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: not going to play him the way he needs to it. Really, 661 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is just making sure you're on the 662 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: same page. You know, an example from last year the Browns, 663 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: they draft your Bill Peppers in the first round. He 664 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: played forty yards off the line of scrimmage. It's a 665 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: free safety. Something he's never done before. Something is skill 666 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: set is not. That's not what he's his strengths are. 667 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 1: He's more of a box player. They I mean, I 668 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't have a free safety in the roster, so 669 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: he got stuck there. But that's not what you draft 670 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: him in the first round. Fright, it looks like a 671 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: wasted pick. Not I didn't hate the pick by the 672 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: front office, but the coaches weren't you know, on board 673 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: with you know what he does as a football player. 674 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: That's we always talk about the triangle. The Jones is 675 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: at the top, the coaches, the scouts will in the middle. 676 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Try and figure that out though. That's the best way 677 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: to work. Got time for one more. Absolutely, Calvin Ridley 678 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: didn't blow the combine away by any stretch with so 679 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: Ross wants to know, you know, given the traits that 680 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: we saw, what is it about him that that allows 681 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: him to get separation and slashed? You know? What makes 682 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: him the number one wide receiver prospect? In the draft. 683 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I know the explosion numbers weren't great. Thirty one inches 684 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: nine too broad, So the explosion numbers weren't great four 685 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: four three and the forty yard dash, okay, that's blazing, 686 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: and then the three cone six eight eight. So the 687 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: strength of Calvin Ridley, We've said it a million times, 688 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: is his front running. Yeah, he's polished. He knows how 689 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: to get open before and after the catch, and that 690 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: shows with the combine data. I know he didn't have 691 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: the great jumps, but again that his strength of the 692 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: football player showed in Indianapolis, and that's I have no 693 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: issues with him. People are overthinking Calvin Ridley. I mean 694 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: the lack of production. Do you think that? Do you 695 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: think that's because there isn't Okay, you say what you 696 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: will about DJ Moore, but there hasn't really been an 697 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: alternative in the conversation. I mean, you know, right, most 698 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: years you have most years you have two or three 699 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: guys to choose from in terms of who you like 700 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: the best. This year and the last two or three years, 701 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: it's been a bust filly well, but I think that's 702 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: misleading because if you take it back five then it 703 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: looks a hell of a lot better. You know, like 704 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: three last two years have been rough, but it's been 705 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: last two yars have been rough. Yeah, especially for guys 706 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: going in the top half of the draft. But typically 707 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: you have about four guys that you can really make 708 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: the case for it, and this year it's more like 709 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: one and a half. People just need to be realistic 710 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: with Calvin Ridley. But all right, if we don't have 711 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: time to get to anybody else, yeah, first first edition 712 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: of tell me More So Yeah, sorry about that, folks, 713 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Really am what I did. And hey, if we whatever 714 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: we don't get to, we can answer on another show, 715 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: um more than anybody else. So what I did was 716 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at Combine performances. Yeah, that 717 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: really jumped out to me from guys that I had 718 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: had no idea who they were. Right, guys we've never 719 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: talked about. I don't think I've heard this name. I'm 720 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: going to read off the measurables. First six five, two 721 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: seventy five, thirty three and three quarter inch arms not 722 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: basically ten inch hands. Ran a four seven three forty 723 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: had a thirty two point five vert, had a seven 724 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: point two three cone. These are freaky numbers and I've 725 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: never heard this dude's name. Tell me more about Southern 726 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: Cold and Rashim Green. How are you? Yeah, he's a 727 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: Day two player, he's, but he's more of a more 728 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: of a flash player right now. You're drafting him based 729 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: on the traits, not necessarily the tape. Is the tapes inconsistent? 730 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: These traits are great, yeah they are, But what is he? 731 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: Is he an interior player? Is he? Because get the 732 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: wait again? H six five two seventy five? Yeah? So 733 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: what where is his best spot? He might be best 734 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: at a five technique and a three to four. When 735 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: you look at him, you watch the tape, the technique, 736 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: the discipline, it's it's in the development phase for him 737 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: right now. He's still figuring all that all that out. 738 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think he's gonna come in. 739 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: He's not gonna like the world on fire in the NFL. 740 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: He's I'm not sure he's ready for NFL snaps. He 741 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: really should have gone back to school. But again, the 742 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: traits are really impressive, and someone's gonna take him in 743 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: the second round. He probably almost have a red shirt 744 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: ear as a fresh or, as a as a rookie, 745 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: and then you know, year two might have a really 746 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: good player doesn't have great bend. When you watch him rush, 747 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: he he doesn't bend all that well. And he's better 748 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: when he could play on the move. When he slam 749 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: him down inside stuff. Dang's right. When you play him inside, 750 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: he seems to be a bit more disruptive. We can 751 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 1: be in the pocket, but he doesn't find the ball 752 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: all that well. I saw a guy that always was 753 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of in personal battles and the ball is going 754 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: by him and I'm like, going there it goes, you know. So, Yeah, 755 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: the numbers, he's a good looking guy on tape. Physically 756 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: he looks like a great looking players. I mean that 757 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: number ninety four sits on him really nice. Yeah, But 758 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is he dangts right. He 759 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: just is not that good of a football player right now. Well, 760 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: and he has his moments because he did have ten 761 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: saxes year. He was him in mad Offer with the 762 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: only two in the Pac twelve that a double digit sacks. 763 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: So he has some production, but it came in spurts. Yeah, 764 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: not any consistency. I I don't know. I mean, he 765 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: I could say I watched Ohio State Arizona notre name 766 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: in Colorado, and I came away with I didn't come 767 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: away with a guy. I thought a guy more than 768 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: as a left end than I did a right end. Right. Yeah, sacks, 769 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: team needs left ends too. I said about Taco, all Um, 770 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: all right, this guy, Dane's gonna know this guy. Dane 771 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: has seen this guy because Dan was at the Shrine 772 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: game and we weren't. But he ran at four four 773 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: five at six three, two hundred, So tell me more 774 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: about Oklahoma State safety Trey Flowers. Really surprised he ran 775 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: that fast because yeah, play that fast four five four 776 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: guy coming out and he he looks like a strong safety. 777 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: So I'm surprised that he didn't get over two hundred 778 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: pounds because he's really thick. Um. But I don't trust 779 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: him in coverage. Uh, he's got some issues there and 780 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: as a run defender, it's very up and down. I 781 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: don't know I saw a Day three player, but the 782 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: gods are good. Yeah. No, he gets fooled on double moves. 783 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: You watch this guy playing coverage and all of sudden 784 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: they're running double moves, they're behind him. He does his 785 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: cousin got him yea and bed them. Yeah. He doesn't 786 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: take flowers, he doesn't take the best angles. He doesn't 787 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: always play with his eyes. There's time where he'll turn 788 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 1: really leggy. Guy, he's real tass. He's got this leggy 789 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: backpedal in it takes him a little bit of time 790 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: to turn it. I thought he's a little slow to 791 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: react as well. So I think Dane's right though with 792 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: the Day three stuff. My comparison for him Cavon Frasier, 793 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: that was in my report. That's why I wrote as 794 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: a comparison for him. Cavon's not that tall though. No, 795 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: the size dimensions don't really match up. But that the 796 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: play style, yeah, play style, Yeah. Can he hit like Cavon? 797 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: He can? Ye? No, no, No, he's a physical tackler. 798 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: Guy's a physical, physical player. All right. This is I mean, 799 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: we know this guy. He was a Senior Bowl guy. 800 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't care. I feel it. I feel like we 801 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: talked about him a lot at the Senior Bowl. Although 802 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: he did play well, and then he goes out and 803 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: runs a four or four six. I love this guy's tape, 804 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: but I want y'all to tell me more about Florida 805 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: corner Duke Dawson. It's my guy. He ran faster and expected. 806 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: Sure did. That's what I'm saying, he sure did. He's 807 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: one of a handful of Nichols five. Yeah, not the 808 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: biggest guy, but again, put him in the nickel and 809 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: he's tough. He's physical at the top of rounds. He 810 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: can test everything thrown his way. There's a lot to 811 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: like about Duke Dawson. Yeah, I'm okay. I think Danes 812 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: got him right there. I think this guy moves pretty 813 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: easily though I'm just looking at my notes. He has 814 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: a feel for how to stay in position, you know. 815 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: And I think he's a very competitive guy. I saw 816 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: a balance, I saw body control. Dane's right about playing 817 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: the slot. I think he gets his eyes around for 818 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: the ball too. I mean there's times when you see 819 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: him like he's gonna carrying a guy and he looks 820 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: back and there's the ball, and I like to change 821 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: the direction. I think he'd work in and out of routes. 822 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: I thought he needed to tackle better. That's that was 823 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: one of my kind of my things about him though. 824 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: But I like that the physicality of the player, the reaction. 825 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 1: I just wish he would tackle a little bit better. 826 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: Better nickel defender him or m J. Stewart, North Carolina. 827 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: Brian likes MJ. I like m J. Stewart, but I 828 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: will I'll take Dawson. I will. You got him both 829 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: day two? Yeah, I do. All right. We're not gonna 830 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: get Derwin James, which is why I keep looking at safeties, 831 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: which Dane brought this guy up today, which made me 832 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: really happy. Six one two h six ran a four 833 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: four one six point eight nine three cone thirty eight 834 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: and a half vert. Tell me more about Arizona safety 835 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: Dane crookshankka Hey, great name, Dane Crookshank reminds me of 836 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: Harry Potter. Awesome, love it all the way around. Uh 837 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: is a good player. Yeah, where do you play? Yeah, 838 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: that's really the biggest question because he can move kind 839 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: of like a corner a little bit. He played that 840 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: overhang spur defender for Arizona. But he's got speed, he does, 841 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: and you know me about it. Yeah, And you know 842 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: the think about him is though you see the change 843 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: of direction for the guy when they when they run 844 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: routes underneath, he can like adjust they try and run 845 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: like option routes. He's like can pivot get back inside. 846 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out where to play. I 847 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: think he's a strong safe. I think it's strong. Yeah. 848 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: I think he's a strong safety because you want to 849 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: play him down. I think he's big enough and physical 850 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: enough to handle tight ends and stuff like that too. 851 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: You put him in the top one hundred, Yeah, I 852 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: think that that's a good chance. That's where he's gonna 853 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: come off the board somewhere. It's second, third round, absolutely 854 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: eighty one. He's in a conversation, all right, that's strong safety. Hey, 855 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: thank you guys, thank you, thanks to everybody out there. 856 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: Sorry about all the delays and stuff. We'll be back 857 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: on time on Thursday for sure. So for my buddies, 858 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: Dave Burglar, David Hellman, King Garrison, I'm Brian Bruss. We'll 859 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: see you again next Thursday at eleven am for more 860 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: the Draft Show, keep watching that take. This has been 861 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 862 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.