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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm your host with

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Each Money Making Conversation talk shows about entrepreneurship

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Speaker 1: planning and committed effort. That's what I'm talking about, your planning,

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Speaker 1: your committed effort. My guests on Money Making Conversations have

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Speaker 1: that same passion and they share that information when we

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Speaker 1: talk about their career, their motivation, overcoming the odds, but

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Speaker 1: they're promoting how they live in balanced life and their

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Speaker 1: secrets to success. My next guest is from Flint, Michigan. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Sir Ree is a two time w BC's Super Middleweight

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Speaker 1: champion and activists or philanthropists, sports analysts with Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: and the Epitome of a Champion. Whether he is inside

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Speaker 1: or outside of a boxing ring. They also tell me

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Speaker 1: that he makes a mean sweep potato pie. Really, okay,

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Speaker 1: let's hear about that. He's talking to the picking expert,

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Speaker 1: please whipping the money making conversation, my man, Anthony Durrell.

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Speaker 1: You guys doing how they're gonna how they're gonna put

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Speaker 1: a mean sweep potato in your credit and I don't

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Speaker 1: see those swepertato in your I can do it. If

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Speaker 1: you could do it, I got my grandma wrested. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's all you can do is just to sweepertato pie.

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Speaker 1: Can you do it? You know I can cook up.

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Speaker 1: My mama raised me to be a uh independent guy. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My mom and my grandfather, you know, Michigan went to

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Speaker 1: little with my grandfather when I was like thirteen. I

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Speaker 1: think he took us over because my mom, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I understood, you know why we did that, just

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Speaker 1: being around the ladies in my family, my grandmother, my

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Speaker 1: my mom, sisters, hunts. You know, I learned. You know,

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Speaker 1: all I gotta do is watch. If I watch, I

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Speaker 1: can learn how to cook. My uncle can cook. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know a guy in my family that can't.

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Speaker 1: So I cook it all. So I went. It's almost

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Speaker 1: kind of like you know you said, you know, you

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Speaker 1: kind of bragging here in front of me. We're nothing

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Speaker 1: in your hands, you know, Like listen. So I went

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Speaker 1: to camp one time. It was Thanksgiving time, and like

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Speaker 1: I wanted foods, So I cooked some sweet potatoes. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I didn't cook was the turkey. You know

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Speaker 1: I usually cook at turkey. I cooked the sweet potatoes,

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Speaker 1: I cooked the greens. Yeah, for sure I couldn't. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I know a lot of people use

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Speaker 1: that kid stuff. That ain't what I do. Na what

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Speaker 1: kind of meat you put in there just to smoke turkey? Ye,

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Speaker 1: I'm a bacon guy. I mean, you know you can

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Speaker 1: But that smoked turkey give it that smoke taste. So

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Speaker 1: my mama told me that, like you said, you she

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Speaker 1: shaped you to be an independent man. And but your

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Speaker 1: whole life is tied to being independent, being yourself. Following

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Speaker 1: your voice. Tell me a little bit about who you are,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Durrell. I'm a I'm a professional fighter. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's not what I want to I want to be

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Speaker 1: known as just the helper, you know, somebody that goes

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Speaker 1: out there to help people, you know, especially before you

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Speaker 1: is a professional fighter. I'm a boxer. I've been doing

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Speaker 1: this since I was nine years old, so that's really

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Speaker 1: you know what people think. I just know, but I

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for my grandfather got me and when

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Speaker 1: happy that to be in this position. I had to

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Speaker 1: fight for everything, you know, when I lost the world

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Speaker 1: lost it again. But you know, good things. How do

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation tells people about overcoming the odds that

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Speaker 1: keep moving forward. A loss is just something to get

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Speaker 1: you to the next step. Everybody takes a loss. Of

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Speaker 1: the grades took a loss. Mohammed Ali took a loss,

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Speaker 1: on one time in middle school when out there swinging

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Speaker 1: what you can do, it's easy. It's not easy, but

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Speaker 1: but you you make it look easy. Is that just okay?

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Speaker 1: Nine years old you put on the globes. How much

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Speaker 1: just you know, I'm picking. I know how to do it,

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Speaker 1: Just knowing how to get through the process. The technique

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Speaker 1: like that like that now because and you use the

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Speaker 1: So I'm planning to do this with my life when

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Speaker 1: when I when professional to retire at thirty five. I'm

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Speaker 1: thirty five. Now I lost my I lost my last fight.

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Speaker 1: want another fight. If the championship fight comes this year,

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Speaker 1: already have my mind made up of what I wanna do.

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Speaker 1: I want to. I want to start multiple business, not

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Speaker 1: We have to admit we all and I was in

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Speaker 1: you know, And so that's why I always tell people that.

427
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: And the thing that really stands out to me, you're

428
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: so positive and I and I'm a positive person, but

429
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Speaker 1: I know crisis has been in your life. When you're

430
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Speaker 1: going the ring, that's a crisis situation. And I know

431
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Speaker 1: people who you know, I don't like, I know, I

432
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: knew one person who it's paralyzed, probably for fifty dollars

433
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Speaker 1: just because he was in the boxing ring. But multiple

434
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Speaker 1: people died, like I think it was six or seven

435
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Speaker 1: people died in their boxing last year. So it's tough,

436
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Speaker 1: you know. And this is my first time winness, not witnessing,

437
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Speaker 1: but knowing that people died in the ring. You know,

438
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: since I've been boxed, I've never heard of it. And

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Speaker 1: I you know, when I think, I'm thinking, like what

440
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Speaker 1: went wrong? What happened? Yeah, Like I I really don't

441
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Speaker 1: understand because everybody is doing the same thing, or maybe

442
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Speaker 1: they're just getting hit more. I don't know. But boxing

443
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: is something that you have to, uh, really pay attention

444
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Speaker 1: to your corner. You have to have a good team around. Trust. Yes,

445
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: you have to. Like my so, my last fight, I

446
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: was cut big over my eye. I couldn't see blood

447
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: out of my eye and I got one of them

448
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: cut and my basketball and the guy was kind of

449
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: getting off because I couldn't see. I was worried about

450
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Speaker 1: the cutting, said to worry about him. D hurt me some. No,

451
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Speaker 1: but my corner knew that I was at a disadvantage

452
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Speaker 1: anyway because of my cut and I couldn't see, so

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Speaker 1: he stopped the fighting. Not it was I mad. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I would never be mad at that looking

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Speaker 1: now for me, you know, when people don't know about

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Speaker 1: that cut because I, like I said, I got I

457
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Speaker 1: hear the guy's head when I was playing basketball, and

458
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: it's nothing but bone here. So when you cut his skin,

459
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Speaker 1: a very thin layer of skin hidden bone. As soon

460
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Speaker 1: as that bad ball opens up, it's just yeah, it's

461
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: just blood everywhere. And so like I said, it's uh,

462
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: you have to trust. Like you say, and I say,

463
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Speaker 1: you have to trust your team. If you can't trust

464
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Speaker 1: in your team, I think you probably need to find

465
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Speaker 1: a new team because that that's where all the foundation

466
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Speaker 1: comes in that because they're on the outside looking in

467
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Speaker 1: and you can kind of see more from the outside

468
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: than you can, you know, when you're in there. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Flint. You know, a few years ago, a

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Speaker 1: lot of controversy about the drinking water. Um as an

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Speaker 1: individual who cares because you can't save everybody. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the initial announcement, then the travesty that was that

473
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Speaker 1: was information that was made available with everybody, and then

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Speaker 1: what you're attempting to do now it's just the announcement.

475
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Speaker 1: You know, we had lead in the water. That was

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Speaker 1: a travesty and own for us, for the governor of

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Speaker 1: Michigan to change the water from like it was a

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Speaker 1: Detroit water to Flint River water. And I think that

479
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Speaker 1: was bad because if you look at the Flint River water,

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Speaker 1: it's it's bad. And I know that chemicals and stuff

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Speaker 1: to change it. But when you have lead pipes, and

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Speaker 1: that's I think anywhere in any city and you put

483
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Speaker 1: some type of chemical in it, it starts to rust

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Speaker 1: and start to you know, get lead in it, and

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Speaker 1: not only lead, but changing the color of the water, right,

486
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Speaker 1: and we had that in ours. So we had to

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Speaker 1: change and he still thought it was okay to drink,

488
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. So we're going through that and still

489
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Speaker 1: going through it to to this day to the day.

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Speaker 1: So it's been had going on since April fourteen, two

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Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. So that's a long time to not have

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Speaker 1: clean drinking water in a city. Uh in America? Still okay?

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Speaker 1: Help me. So you're saying the situation is so they

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Speaker 1: not too long ago. I think I was in camp

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Speaker 1: for my last fight. They sold the people to boil

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Speaker 1: the water again. But they what they don't understand is

497
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Speaker 1: boiling water will not make leg go away. Lead don't

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Speaker 1: go away. You can't even they get a filter to

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Speaker 1: filter off the lead, it's still going to be there.

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Speaker 1: You need to change the pipes. And and this is

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Speaker 1: what I understand. Why wouldn't they get volunteers to come

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Speaker 1: in and fix the pipes. I mean, I know it's

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Speaker 1: all around you as volunteers would come in and fix

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Speaker 1: these pipes without like if you put one word out there.

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00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't get about the president either

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Speaker 1: to uh both Well, it was when they came and

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Speaker 1: had the the debate in Flint, they said they will

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00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: do this and do that for Flint and nothing still

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00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: is done. So I think that's where and what is

510
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Speaker 1: the governor saying? I don't even watch politics. I'm so

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00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: sick of them, honestly, am because I don't think you

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00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: can trust them, Like they give you one thing and

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00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: and they do another, and that's all the time. I

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Speaker 1: don't uh, I don't agree with the way they get

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Speaker 1: into office. They feed you this fairy tale and once

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00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: they get in off as it it's just flatlines. Well

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Speaker 1: you know that. Here's the thing. I understand the frustration.

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Speaker 1: But you are an influencer. I try to be no, no, no,

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: you are an influence. That's why we were talking because

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00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see how I can get into your head.

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00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: That's let you remind you of your power. If you

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00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: just posted videos of people still poem ward out of

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Speaker 1: these sinks and it's brown and talking about this this

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00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: conversation of why you can't bawl away lead. You know

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00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: that people think you can do that, you know, but

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Speaker 1: that information that's where the power of social media comes

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00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: into play. Anthony, and I have to remind you that

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00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: there's no pressure on you, just letting you know that

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00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't care about President Trump or him not go

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00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: on and him not saying, but they can be reminded

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00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: they can go viral. It can you can. You can

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00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: always tell people. Social media is your individual press conference.

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Speaker 1: And so here I am Russia. Mcdonaldown in the Lanta

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00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: George also live in Houston, Texas. Thinking, you guys are

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00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: good and you're telling me, excuse me, excuse me good.

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: Problems is up there, so so what are you trying

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00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to do? Do you have any causes, any foundations set up?

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: And I do have a foundation. I have a Derails

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00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Trance Foundation. It's my foundation is help to find a

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Speaker 1: cure for cancer. That's one of them. I mean, with

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Speaker 1: all the people up there with cancer in Flint, they

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00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: still can't drink the water, and then their immune system

543
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: are is so low that if they drink the water,

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00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: they'll be sick for sure. So my foundation help find

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Speaker 1: a cure for cancer, help keep boys and girls their

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Speaker 1: education enter and out of city, and help stop bullying.

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00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: But my foundation is helping that too. I'm trying to

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00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: open the Boys and Girls club. You know, it's and

549
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: thes in the heart of where the water crisis happen.

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00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: That's on the north side of Flint and the donation

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00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: page is up. You know people want to donate, but

552
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: just trying to put something positive there and you know,

553
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: give the key is something to look forward to, because

554
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: if if they have nothing, it's nothing to look for,

555
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: it's nothing to smile about. But I'm trying to give

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Speaker 1: everybody in the community something to smile about. And once

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00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I do it, maybe it's like a domino effect where

558
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: everybody else does it, does it, and it goes from there.

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00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: It takes off from there. Do you do you're doing

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00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: the galos, You're in the events in the Flint area

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00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: or the Michigan area to raise money, or it's just

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Speaker 1: making people aware. You have these donations pages, making people

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Speaker 1: aware of your causes using some of your money. I'm

564
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: sure to move forward. These are these actions that I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it. I'm in the process of doing everything.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a golf auting to yea knocking

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Speaker 1: the mint in golf. That's like I said, I want

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Speaker 1: to do a golf audience to raise money for that,

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Speaker 1: uh and for my foundation to like help people with

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Speaker 1: that with the situation that's going on in I want

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Speaker 1: to do more events. I give away turkeys when it's

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00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: uh uh Thanksgiving. I give away gifts on Christmas, you know,

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00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: on every hoiday. I try to give people something to

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: smile about, because that's that's what it's about, you know,

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: It's about making people happy. If you can't make anyone happy,

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00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: it's it's like I'm doing nothing and I see everything.

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm just out here just trying to make it.

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Speaker 1: Here's a beautiful thing about this conversation. You have a family,

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: talk about your family, and you out there taking care

580
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: of kids you don't even know talking about your families,

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00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you don't even know they are important you as much

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Speaker 1: as your family and how your family inspires you. I'm

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00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: talking about your media family wife, talk us about how

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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: they relate and to actually push you to even further

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Speaker 1: correct the wrongs that these young people are are families

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Speaker 1: are facing. Yep. So I have I have a wife,

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Speaker 1: three boys. Then no, they they won't, they won't, they

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00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: want and I told them that one of them got

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00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: mad at me. But I just I just think you

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00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: know that and I understand that. But we really our

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00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: life in the ring for little of money. You know,

592
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: it's only a few that get you know, I get paid.

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00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: So in that case, you know, it's basketball players making more.

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00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: They dribble the ball and they're making hundreds of millions. Tennis, yeah, tennis,

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Speaker 1: I mean even golf, you know, but uh, I really

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Speaker 1: don't want them doing like I say, the three boards.

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00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: They can do anything. They can't do football. Football is no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you have concussion because of the CT. I I try

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: to brush up on my you know, whatever they want

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Speaker 1: to do. No, I I get down and see it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's safe. But my wife helps me out tremendously.

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Speaker 1: She she's a teacher, she teached at a college. She's uh,

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Speaker 1: she liked teaching, helping kids to also. So it's just

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00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: me surrounding yourself around good people. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: he goes a backbone thing. The foundation, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful thing. And if you can you can

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00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: have that stern foundation, you can make it well you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know we're wrapping up this interview, but if you

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Speaker 1: I love to go out lunch and talk to you

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: about just some ideas. That's us an influencer and I

611
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: could help because I'm sadden that the Flint, Michigan situation

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00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: it's not even according to you, it's not even close

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Speaker 1: to being It's like I'm not gonna say close because

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: there's still trying, but I don't. I still I don't

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00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: even see nobody out there now, like even fixing pipes.

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00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: But you know they're not gonna be out there in

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Speaker 1: the wintertime. So but like I say, it's it's like

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Speaker 1: we're a third world country, uh, not having drinkable water.

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Speaker 1: You can't you can't do anything with the water. But

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Speaker 1: let it run right, Well, give out your foundation again,

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Speaker 1: give out your social media information, and again thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on my show. Anthony Durrell two times Super

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Speaker 1: Time Super Middle eight champion, Flip Michigan. Give out your information.

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Speaker 1: It's a Derrell's Trance Foundation. Uh. And my website is

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Speaker 1: Athony Durrelle dot com. My social media is Athony Durrelle

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Speaker 1: on every platform. Okay, cool, I'm gonna donate a thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to your found app's a good thank you? Okay, cool,

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