Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't pay meiche for this.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined it in
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Whistling Whistling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosetal. What is up, boys, Chris Whistling Whistling? Hey, Dan, Well,
Speaker 1: we're telling Chris Blue, Chris Blue to change his name.
Speaker 1: Whistling is a very fine, strong name, but Chris Whistling
Speaker 1: has a look that's there's some field whistling past the graveyard.
Speaker 1: You smile immediately when you think of that as a
Speaker 1: last name. I like it. Um, Hi, everybody, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Friday Show. How's everybody feeling in the studio? By
Speaker 1: the way, this is it, Mark You we talked about
Speaker 1: it all year long and you lament the fact that
Speaker 1: the end of certain you know, certain season benchmarks like
Speaker 1: the end of the regular season, the end of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: even the draft, and it's like, oh, well, it's offseason
Speaker 1: time now, and you're always saying not for us, it's
Speaker 1: not you know, Well, guess what this is it. This
Speaker 1: is the last three show week before essentially the summer
Speaker 1: break of the NFL. This is the end of the
Speaker 1: road for us that started in late July of two.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have made I feel like if and
Speaker 1: you maybe no one has noticed, uh, because I haven't
Speaker 1: even noticed this half the time. But I've made a
Speaker 1: concerted effort to be less mouthy about that process because
Speaker 1: I think the complaint is a bit tiresome at this point. Um.
Speaker 1: But I will say that as soon as we hit
Speaker 1: this pause. Looming in the distance for me is the
Speaker 1: avalanche of activity that is just with each day coming
Speaker 1: closer and close. Like when you were a kid and
Speaker 1: you had you know, summer vacation came, and then you
Speaker 1: could look at it two ways. When like August first hit,
Speaker 1: for instance, you could say, oh, we got another half
Speaker 1: of summer, or you're looking down the barrel, I'm taking
Speaker 1: it down. I'm like, we have got this is going
Speaker 1: to get Where who am I sitting next to in
Speaker 1: third grade? This could go very good, this could go
Speaker 1: very bad. We haven't been tougher than a lot of
Speaker 1: like fifteen hour days over the last month. That's contributed
Speaker 1: to it. That's contributed. I've been I've been grinding a lot.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding a ton to know. Dan and I've
Speaker 1: gotten together to look at some odd games from Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was. There was one comment on Twitter today, actually
Speaker 1: it really on this topic, saying absolutely on fire this
Speaker 1: season talking about the pod. Even Mark sounds interested. I
Speaker 1: mean it's someone's noticed. I appreciate that. As I've said
Speaker 1: many times before, this podcast is fine to be minus,
Speaker 1: that's solid. Be minus, but that's that's something to be
Speaker 1: proud of. I think to be not failing. Fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least we're not failing. UH. Today's show last Friday, West,
Speaker 1: while you were on your vacation after your honeymoon, we
Speaker 1: went around the NFL and UH and looked at all
Speaker 1: the new is coming out of the mandatory minicamps and
Speaker 1: um O t A s for the teams that were
Speaker 1: active last week. This week, even more teams were in
Speaker 1: the mix. So a little later in the show, we
Speaker 1: are going to gonna go boomerang style back and forth
Speaker 1: throwing out some takeaways from the week that was whispers maybe,
Speaker 1: but more just generally things that we took from the week.
Speaker 1: You have a look. Well, if I use some of
Speaker 1: the guys you've already covered last week, just let me
Speaker 1: know and I'll move on to another guy. Oh, you haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't sat down and really absorbed. It's fine, we
Speaker 1: don't need to. We'll just mention it as if it
Speaker 1: think happened, just like when We'll work when Dan and
Speaker 1: Steve Weiss both had long um who was it? Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins points and active, Actually no one said anything. It
Speaker 1: was fine. It was like, what's really the big difference?
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let's hit a little
Speaker 1: bit of news. And they said, so have you met
Speaker 1: an sp Justin Bieber came out on the record yesterday,
Speaker 1: I believe, and said he's only kidding about wanting to
Speaker 1: fight Tom Cruise, And uh, what you just heard there
Speaker 1: is a perfect reason why you would bail on any
Speaker 1: fight in an octagon, a potential fight to the death
Speaker 1: with the maniacal Tom Cruise. I mean, West was pointing
Speaker 1: out that he was older than Wilford Brimley by a
Speaker 1: couple's five plus years. He's older than Wilford Brimley was
Speaker 1: when he was in Cocoon, which was an awesome nugget
Speaker 1: by West. But I always just pointed to the neck
Speaker 1: up factor that I just found Tom Cruise psychotic enough
Speaker 1: and wild enough that I wouldn't want to go anywhere
Speaker 1: near him in a fight. Here's just me. Here's a
Speaker 1: bieber said. It was a random tweet, it was I
Speaker 1: do that stuff sometimes. I think he would probably whoop
Speaker 1: my ass in a fight. He's got that dad strength.
Speaker 1: But it's not even that. And and Cruiz isn't just
Speaker 1: the LSD has worn off. Cruiz is in phenomenal shape.
Speaker 1: But it's beyond that. It's beyond his physical fitness. It's
Speaker 1: that intensity. Well, he has trisity in his brain which
Speaker 1: is out of control. You here, that man, he is
Speaker 1: an actor. I mean he's acting when he does that.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. He's a little out. I
Speaker 1: don't know. In his real life. He seems to be
Speaker 1: venturing into some strange corners too, in interesting corners. I
Speaker 1: don't know him to be going around pummeling people in
Speaker 1: his free time outside of acting until he has to.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go get going. We'll start on the
Speaker 1: Throne of Sleeves, where we have some drama going on
Speaker 1: involving the Pats and the Texans and people that used
Speaker 1: to work together that no longer work together and drama.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. And you know the history here
Speaker 1: with the Texans. Uh. They they're general manager Rick Smith
Speaker 1: leaves the team after his wife fall zill. They go
Speaker 1: looking for a new GM. They knock on the door
Speaker 1: of Nick Cassero. Uh. They want to meet with Cassaro,
Speaker 1: who is the Patriots director of player personnel. Is correct,
Speaker 1: nailed it? Patriots say no, we don't, we're keeping Nick. Uh.
Speaker 1: So eventually the Texans land on Brian game that doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. They let him go after a year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and now they want to talk to Cassaro again. The
Speaker 1: Patriots don't like it, and they smell something off. So
Speaker 1: what do they do? They file tampering charges against the
Speaker 1: Texans relead it related to their attempted GM higher of Casero,
Speaker 1: A source told NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport ESPN first
Speaker 1: had this um, so we'll see where this goes. The Pats, obviously,
Speaker 1: Greg believe that the Texans have been trying to make
Speaker 1: this happen around what the NFL rules are in terms
Speaker 1: of the ability to communicate with someone that's not connected
Speaker 1: to your team, and they're going for draft picks and
Speaker 1: and and potentially fine to hit the Texans, And it's
Speaker 1: just so fascinating because of course Bill O'Brien is a
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick disciple, and I imagine no Christmas cards will
Speaker 1: be extreme. Well, there's a lot going on here. Jack
Speaker 1: Easterby was the team pastor, their chaplain that they hired
Speaker 1: way back in two thousand thirteen in response to what
Speaker 1: was going on with Aaron Hernandez. And he did such
Speaker 1: a good job that he ended up staying with the
Speaker 1: Patriots for the next five six years. And they called
Speaker 1: him the culture coach, So he wasn't he wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to push religion on them, but he was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, work with them off the field, and he
Speaker 1: apparently kind of rose to a status where he was
Speaker 1: involved in the football operations. And he left the Patriots
Speaker 1: very soon after the Robert Craft uh drama from this
Speaker 1: offseason that we covered, and uh, it's been implied pretty
Speaker 1: strongly that here's the culture coach. He basically left the
Speaker 1: Patriots upset about everything after Craft, and there was a
Speaker 1: bidding war between the Panthers, the Dolphins, and the Texans
Speaker 1: to get this guy Easterby. He is now the executive
Speaker 1: vice president of the Texans. He's second in charge of
Speaker 1: their front office right now. And he's supposedly leading this
Speaker 1: GM search along with O'Brien, who was at the ring
Speaker 1: ceremony with his old buddy Cassario last Thursday night. I
Speaker 1: believe it was uh, you know, just hours before Brian
Speaker 1: Gaine gets hired, hours before they officially request UH to
Speaker 1: talk to Cassario. That was Jack Easterby who was up there.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Patriots are putting all this together.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they have any actual evidence or
Speaker 1: or what, but it's interesting. It also implies that Cassario
Speaker 1: essentially wants to go. And I think that's what a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been missing in this story, is
Speaker 1: that if they're already if they're already bringing up draft
Speaker 1: picks and all this stuff in tampering, he's out the door.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like they're keeping it right. All
Speaker 1: these Patriots fans are like, well, you don't even know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's the one that reported the Texans and he
Speaker 1: doesn't even want to. I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they don't think that. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of responses in my tweet Twitter
Speaker 1: about that. It's like, maybe he's ratting out the Texans
Speaker 1: getting them now. I think I think he wants to
Speaker 1: go and get a big promotion h and work with
Speaker 1: his friend Bill O'Brien. Typically like a pastor, if they're
Speaker 1: doing their job correctly, would be based more on internal
Speaker 1: power um as opposed to external power. But this, this
Speaker 1: is an interesting route for a New England based UM
Speaker 1: religious man to take, where he now is high octane
Speaker 1: involved with the Texans trying to pull away because SiO.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's ironic about it, and I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots are if you really want to get deep
Speaker 1: into it, maybe it's a little more personal for them
Speaker 1: after Easterby sort of let it be known why he
Speaker 1: left the Patriots that now they're getting the character coach
Speaker 1: of the Texans in trouble for breaking rules. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a little that makes sense. I think I would
Speaker 1: look at Nikossario as someone that you know, you can
Speaker 1: say that Belichick and others are going to be there
Speaker 1: for the next twenty five years. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think that there is something of a contingency plan
Speaker 1: in place, which from a distance I'd have to say
Speaker 1: has something to do with Josh McDaniels, has something to
Speaker 1: do with someone like Nick Assario handing over the team
Speaker 1: in a certain way that would not just drop everyone
Speaker 1: off a cliff and how many people can you pull
Speaker 1: away from this organization? This might be more of the
Speaker 1: lynchpin type figure that New England's fighting for and saying,
Speaker 1: we also don't like the way it happened and this
Speaker 1: whole Bill O'Brien, you were one of our friends, someone
Speaker 1: we can trust. Well, you're out, buddy. Well. I always
Speaker 1: thought he sat at the right hand of the father,
Speaker 1: alongside Josh McDaniels. Now it seems like he's the following
Speaker 1: angel like Mao O'Brien, O'Brian, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: on the bedside because Sario is really unique too, because
Speaker 1: there's no one in the league that has a job
Speaker 1: like his. He's a coach. I mean, he's out there
Speaker 1: on the field coaching the players every day and adjusted
Speaker 1: to being the GM. He's on the headset on Sundays
Speaker 1: talking strategy with Josh mc dan It's kind of a
Speaker 1: fascinating character in general. They said they had him working
Speaker 1: a lot with Nikill Harry, their wide receiver. You know
Speaker 1: that you see him. There's no one quite like him,
Speaker 1: but they never gave him a nice title. There's something
Speaker 1: weird in New England where they never give you a
Speaker 1: big title or a big raise. And and if to me,
Speaker 1: it's like if this guy was the key to like,
Speaker 1: you know, the front office and the in their future,
Speaker 1: like they could have just given him a better title
Speaker 1: and a raised at any point, and they never wanted
Speaker 1: to say, I find a way to keep the people
Speaker 1: that they don't want to let go. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: come close to some other jobs and it happen they
Speaker 1: could have given him a different title and and then
Speaker 1: the Texans would have no choice, and they just never
Speaker 1: did character on how people treat their family. And this
Speaker 1: guy Cassario has been with this organization since two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. He's been there forever. As Greg is saying, uh,
Speaker 1: he's not just a guy that works behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: He's been a wide receiver, coach, he's been He's a
Speaker 1: guy that's involved with the on field action. He is
Speaker 1: such a key member of the organization. And now after
Speaker 1: and you know, with the pay and the job titles,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that, but at this point,
Speaker 1: this guy he's pretty underpaid. It's clear that he wants
Speaker 1: to take the next step in his career, try something new, understandable.
Speaker 1: He wants to become the general manager, which is one
Speaker 1: of the most coveted gigs and all professional football. So
Speaker 1: the Patriots reaction to this is to what get but
Speaker 1: but hurt and try to launch with the NFL and
Speaker 1: investigation that will essentially when Cassario ends up in Texans
Speaker 1: with the Texans potentially put him in a tougher spot.
Speaker 1: I know this is we're not all best friends. This
Speaker 1: is the NFL. You're trying to beat the other teams,
Speaker 1: but you're trying to hurt the guy on his way
Speaker 1: out the door and make this thing messy instead of
Speaker 1: just being like, hey, Nick, we love what you do,
Speaker 1: we'd love to keep you here, we'd love to try
Speaker 1: to keep hearing with a better title or better money.
Speaker 1: If we can't, best of luck to you and thanks
Speaker 1: for everything, instead of turning this into a whole thing
Speaker 1: and it's just ugly and it's very Patriots. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think they they're feeling like they're taking out
Speaker 1: on the Texans, you know, in Easter b there they're
Speaker 1: trying to embarrass them, and they clearly don't like the
Speaker 1: way they think that it went about that maybe at
Speaker 1: one of their events that this was going on, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it is ridiculous because stop having ring ceremony. I
Speaker 1: mean they probably will at some point. Uh, it'll probably
Speaker 1: it'll probably end up with like sixth round pick. I
Speaker 1: do not think like Casario is gonna be kneecapped here
Speaker 1: in terms of resources. I mean, you never know. It's
Speaker 1: a fairly unprecedented story, but I can't imagine this is
Speaker 1: gonna result in any major trade or anything. All Right,
Speaker 1: so we'll we'll keep an eye on this drama. Um,
Speaker 1: familiar drama. Uh. And let's now spin out of that
Speaker 1: topic and into camps and action on the field. This
Speaker 1: is it. This is the end of mandatory mini camp week.
Speaker 1: There were also o t a s voluntary practice for teams,
Speaker 1: but now it's going to get a lot more in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So let's go around the horn a few times,
Speaker 1: uh and throw out some takeaways things that kind of
Speaker 1: caught our attention over the course of the past week. Greg,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, alright. Uh, I'm gonna just start
Speaker 1: with kind of the news that popped up today since
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it. At all yet from Mike Silver,
Speaker 1: some whispers are we doing that? Yeah? Why not? In Cleveland?
Speaker 1: That Todd Monk and the offensive coordinator UH installation of
Speaker 1: his offense maybe hasn't gone as smoothly as they were planning.
Speaker 1: They haven't had a lot of their best players there,
Speaker 1: which I think would make it harder, and that Freddie Kitchens,
Speaker 1: the head coaches, had to kind of step in and
Speaker 1: become more active in installing the offense. And the only
Speaker 1: reason I wanted to bring that up today is we
Speaker 1: haven't talked about that much at all. That Todd Monkin
Speaker 1: is coming in and Freddie Kitchens got this job because
Speaker 1: of what a good job he did with the offense.
Speaker 1: But Todd Monkin has been a very successful offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: with his own principles UH in different places over the
Speaker 1: last few years. And it's just like not a topic
Speaker 1: we've talked about, and you could see how there might
Speaker 1: be some issues there, and it's just an interesting thing
Speaker 1: for a first year head coach already to be dealing with.
Speaker 1: I wondered how they would mesh because before last year,
Speaker 1: nobody really thought much of either of them in the NFL,
Speaker 1: that neither of them were play callers before last year,
Speaker 1: and they both impressed so much. Um Monken actually had
Speaker 1: his play calling duties takeaway. But at the time, the
Speaker 1: Bucks were I think number one in the NFL yards.
Speaker 1: So it was he impressed me by how open he
Speaker 1: was getting his receivers, and you could say the same
Speaker 1: thing about Freddie Kitchen. So to me, it was always
Speaker 1: interesting which one would win out there. Is it a
Speaker 1: wait and see though, because it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: It's just I think it's like it's just an interesting
Speaker 1: story to read and to hear. Like a first it's
Speaker 1: a probably a typical thing for a first year head
Speaker 1: coach to have to kind of manage when he's never
Speaker 1: been a head coach before. But I I thought that
Speaker 1: when they hired Monk, and it's just like, this is
Speaker 1: a guy who was interviewing for coaching jobs everywhere, including Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and so that's always I don't know, that's always a
Speaker 1: little bit of a concern that you have two guys
Speaker 1: with two different philosophies and one that wants to be
Speaker 1: the head coach. It's just something to deal with. It
Speaker 1: is a pretty severe left turn and a reminder that
Speaker 1: all the Cleveland hype is going to meet with realities
Speaker 1: in real life situations, because a month ago, Monk and
Speaker 1: who I think, I agree with you is probably going
Speaker 1: to be a head coach at some point in super talented.
Speaker 1: Like It's just he was at it like a cherry
Speaker 1: on top of an offense that had so much talent
Speaker 1: and Freddie Kitchens and his ingenuity that Monk and who
Speaker 1: also would was someone who could relate to Baker Mayfield's
Speaker 1: college scheme and only add a positive. But then you
Speaker 1: have to work together and mix all this together, and
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's June, and maybe it's not going
Speaker 1: quite as swimmingly as one would have predicted. I thought
Speaker 1: where you were going with that. By the way, Greg
Speaker 1: was the Mike Silver report today that quote several veteran
Speaker 1: Brown's players approached Baker Mayfield to register our displeasure with
Speaker 1: his kind. This was a two part tweet by Silver.
Speaker 1: I took. I chose the second part. You're going for
Speaker 1: the banger up top. Silver very popular with Browns fans
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years. Anyway, So as you know,
Speaker 1: Baker was outspoken and expressed his um how disappointments not
Speaker 1: the word, but kind of just showed some bravado about
Speaker 1: called him out chastise Duke Johnson, who wants out, he
Speaker 1: wants to be traded, and Baker said, you could get
Speaker 1: out of the way, or you can join join us.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Uh and uh. Apparently, according
Speaker 1: to Silver Brown's players, veterans came up to Baker and said,
Speaker 1: that's not how you should handle this situation. And UM,
Speaker 1: I don't same thing. I don't I don't put a
Speaker 1: ton into it. But these it's interesting that after you know,
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and months of nothing but positive, there
Speaker 1: are some issues to work through here. Um, and this
Speaker 1: ongoing issue with Duke Johnson is one of them. Well,
Speaker 1: I think this is one of the reasons why you
Speaker 1: don't see second year players as team leaders, because he
Speaker 1: hasn't gone through any of this contract stuff and he
Speaker 1: hasn't learned that in the NFL you don't mess with
Speaker 1: another player's money. Right. It seems like a kind of
Speaker 1: we even talked about at the time that we wonder
Speaker 1: if Baker would say the same things like five years
Speaker 1: down the line. I would guess not because he's got
Speaker 1: some other guys in lack of just like, hey, leave
Speaker 1: Duke alone. Yeah, I'm not surprised that he at some
Speaker 1: point early on said something that was reigned in a
Speaker 1: little by the people around. But I will say I'd
Speaker 1: rather have that in a quarterback then a wil team
Speaker 1: flower that never speaks and seems snapia leader at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather add I guess I'd be curious
Speaker 1: how he reacted to that. I well, the the other
Speaker 1: thing that Silver mentioned, I don't want to miss quote him,
Speaker 1: but I was watching it on network and he sort
Speaker 1: of said that he felt that Baker might not agree
Speaker 1: with it, but he certainly listened to it and didn't.
Speaker 1: I only came back and argued, but he absorbed it,
Speaker 1: and you move on. Then he threw a punch and
Speaker 1: knocked like Tackley knocked out or something. Uh, let's move
Speaker 1: away from the Browns. I'll throw one out there. Uh.
Speaker 1: You could say I'm going twice in a row. But
Speaker 1: that was kind of a piggyback. It was just adding
Speaker 1: on to the Greg's things good strategy. It was just accentuated. Uh,
Speaker 1: all right, as we know, Doug Baldwin's done in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and I'm very interested because you trust what they do
Speaker 1: up there, You trust Uh, John Schneider, you trust Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll their talent evaluation going all the way back to remember,
Speaker 1: I remember being on a rooftop in downtown l A
Speaker 1: interviewing Pete Carroll when Matt Flynn was signed to be
Speaker 1: the supporter. By the way, location and job duty. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on now. After the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn, uh,
Speaker 1: and the assumption was he would be the starter, and
Speaker 1: Pete cow kept on pounding the table about this kid,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who they drafted uh in the mid rounds
Speaker 1: and and uh we all know what happened next with that.
Speaker 1: Now we're hearing a lot of pop about DK Metcalf,
Speaker 1: and I think it's very important for the Seattle offense
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a ton of uh fireworks around it
Speaker 1: right now, beyond their m VP quarterback, Uh, that Metcalf
Speaker 1: steps up and makes an immediate impact. Uh. Here's what
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson said on Wednesday. Uh, Dk, it's great scene
Speaker 1: to make plays. I think he's looking really really special.
Speaker 1: He can do anything and everything, and he's tremendous. So
Speaker 1: this is a guy that got a lot of buzz
Speaker 1: for his size, his build, his speed. He showed up
Speaker 1: for the combine interview with a shirt off just to
Speaker 1: let the Seahawks coaching staff know how hard he is
Speaker 1: working to be the best he can be physically. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I just want to be surprised knowing that organization
Speaker 1: and the fact that there's a superstar quarterback there if
Speaker 1: Metcalf is a player and they kind of need him
Speaker 1: to be. It's been interesting to follow this narrative around
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf since January. Someone who's not in the draft
Speaker 1: nick community, you would look at it and say, okay,
Speaker 1: that nobody really ever heard of this guy during the season.
Speaker 1: Then he takes his shirt off and everyone says he's
Speaker 1: a stud at the combine. He's a stud the first day,
Speaker 1: and then the second day everyone's like, well, he can't
Speaker 1: really move laterally, and then you see everybody start to
Speaker 1: talk bad about him, that he's he's a product of hype,
Speaker 1: that he's a workout warrior, and now it's and then
Speaker 1: he falls in the draft like people thought he might
Speaker 1: be the first receiver taking and he almost around three.
Speaker 1: But now it's like, oh yeah, all that stuff about
Speaker 1: him being the best receiver in the draft may have
Speaker 1: been true. After all he is getting he's one of
Speaker 1: the rookies to watch. I mean he partly, it's partly
Speaker 1: because of the fan base, but in the opportunity that's there.
Speaker 1: But I feel like more has been written about him
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis than just about any
Speaker 1: rookie in the league. Well maybe it's because of who
Speaker 1: the head coaches, but you're also seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: hype about David Moore. Pete Carroll said he was the
Speaker 1: most im improved player in their mining camp. You hear
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about Geron Brown, who looks like
Speaker 1: a totally different guy this year. So three of their
Speaker 1: odd receivers are getting incredible hype. Yeah, I mean in
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who probably is not the type to come
Speaker 1: out and call someone out, spend time talking about David
Speaker 1: Moore on Network Today. Gush, you knew over him, so
Speaker 1: you know we'll see West. That was a really good
Speaker 1: piggyback on my comments right into your own. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: just there's a pattern here. I want everyone to realize
Speaker 1: there's a pattern. You must have something on the previous
Speaker 1: person's comment before you launch into your own or I'll
Speaker 1: break it. And I think Erica should jump into and
Speaker 1: and do a piggyback and have her own whisper. You
Speaker 1: have absolutely four minutes to get this ready. Erica absolutely
Speaker 1: big breakout candidate this year. I'm trying to identify some
Speaker 1: guys if our listeners haven't been paying attention this offseason,
Speaker 1: some guys to keep in mind for training camp as
Speaker 1: breakout candidates for Fantasy And to me, the most obvious
Speaker 1: one is Marcus Valdes Scantling from the Packers vs. Who
Speaker 1: you here. He's picking up Matt Laflora's offense faster than anybody.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers says, he's in every down layer. Their beat
Speaker 1: writers are saying, it's not Geronal moll Alison playing next
Speaker 1: to Davante Adams into two wide receiver sets. It's mvs
Speaker 1: playing there. And this guy, I believe, at one point
Speaker 1: in his rookie year, had three yard games in a
Speaker 1: four week span. Um he can play, so to me,
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers trusts him, and it sounds like he does,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is one of the guys saying that this
Speaker 1: guy is ready to take on this rule. You know
Speaker 1: that they didn't pick up anybody in the off season
Speaker 1: because we talked about it over and over again. Packers
Speaker 1: need to pick somebody up. They must have a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence in MVS, who, to me looks like a
Speaker 1: huge breakout candidate. You want to piggyback, I'll give you one.
Speaker 1: Along with the fact that the offense fits him absolutely perfectly.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it just maximizes everything they like about him.
Speaker 1: And it's a speed based offense. And we know that.
Speaker 1: But Michael Silver, let's go back to He's been working hard,
Speaker 1: he's been grinding his story. We know that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is a friend of Michael Silver and someone that speaks
Speaker 1: to Michael Silver. And it was Rogers asked about this offense,
Speaker 1: said that as just as Davante Adams has said, and MVS.
Speaker 1: And either way, his nickname is MVS. I discovered he was.
Speaker 1: He was quoted at in the in the show you
Speaker 1: weren't here. We said, if you're not using MVS as
Speaker 1: a nickname, you're an idiot. But he is. And we
Speaker 1: thought you might get in the way of Michael David
Speaker 1: Smith the Pro Football Talk MDS. But apparently the Packers
Speaker 1: can see the difference between those two. Well we yes,
Speaker 1: we When we did the show last Friday, I talked
Speaker 1: about MVS and Aaron Ross supposed to interrupt, but he added,
Speaker 1: he added A L. Mark had a piggyback, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to jump on his piggyback. Well, so let
Speaker 1: me let me finish this, then you can piggyback on this.
Speaker 1: But Rogers, on top of saying that the defense would
Speaker 1: be stretched with speed and tempo and liking all that,
Speaker 1: did express concern for Silver about less of a chance
Speaker 1: to audible down out of a play at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, which we know he has wont to do
Speaker 1: and one of the best in the league of doing,
Speaker 1: and actually had a quote that said, I don't think
Speaker 1: you want me to turn off eleven years of experience.
Speaker 1: So what will happen between and Aaron Rodgers? He calls
Speaker 1: out players now and again. You know, if you're Baker Mayfield, tiss, tiss,
Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers, so you're going to the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: But what happens between Aaron Rudds and head coach there
Speaker 1: in terms of when they you know, Aaron Rodgers wants
Speaker 1: to do what he does on every snap, which is
Speaker 1: like draw six people off sides by using his jargon
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage before the clock expires. What happens? Well,
Speaker 1: I this a Mondo piggy bank or is that your topic?
Speaker 1: That is not my topic? I think this is. You know,
Speaker 1: let's mark down the day June thirteenth that Mark started
Speaker 1: turning against the two thousand nineteen Packers and trying to
Speaker 1: start drama. We got six months into the year. Al Right, Mark,
Speaker 1: what do you got? I there wasn't a lot of
Speaker 1: news out of Cowboys camp, but there's something about it
Speaker 1: when you talk about whispers and mystery, and I have
Speaker 1: long for long periods of time outside of Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: found the Cowboys offense to be somewhat dull, and you're
Speaker 1: exposed to it on a heavy basis because it's on
Speaker 1: there on Prime Time left and right, and the Dak
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott experience I thought sunk a little
Speaker 1: bit last year where at times, until they kind of
Speaker 1: got their judeticularly their groove together with the Marie Cooper,
Speaker 1: things were an issue. But now that Kellen Moore, their
Speaker 1: previous backup, is now their offensive coordinator, there are these
Speaker 1: amazing reports coming out about what they're planning to do
Speaker 1: with this offense, and it uses a lot of plays
Speaker 1: that they've had in place, even when Kellen Moore was
Speaker 1: the quarterback and Scott Lenahan was running a rather stale system.
Speaker 1: But now Kellen Moore, who always was described as a
Speaker 1: coach his son who would be a future coach, is
Speaker 1: in that role. He is bringing huge elements of what
Speaker 1: he ran at Boise and basically what that means from
Speaker 1: a really nice report if you want to check it out.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, Joseph Farreolia of Inside the
Speaker 1: Pylon dot Com went deep on this. It is a
Speaker 1: whisper packed piece, in my opinion, about an offense that
Speaker 1: is going to essentially do everything they can to f
Speaker 1: up the defense before the ball is snapped, with an
Speaker 1: array of formations, snap motions, shifts, all sorts of stuff
Speaker 1: where they're going to use disguises to keep the defense
Speaker 1: on their heels while deck presscot will get more time
Speaker 1: to look at coverage. Is all that sounds like what
Speaker 1: every team does, except it's not what the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: doing before. They're adding all of this to the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1: And the comment also was that Zeke Elliott has really
Speaker 1: looked good in this situation. Amari Cooper talked about it
Speaker 1: as being something we are running the same place, but
Speaker 1: we're disguising them, and he feels like he is in
Speaker 1: a much better system for him as well. So it's
Speaker 1: a whisper because we're not seeing a lot of it today,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys as a more exciting team, and when
Speaker 1: you pair it with their defense, which I think if
Speaker 1: we look at if you can pick up where you
Speaker 1: left off last year, hard to do. Don't just hand
Speaker 1: out the NFC East to someone else quite yet. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about that, aren't you, guys. I mean, I'm with Mark,
Speaker 1: and they've been a tough offense to watch. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: And it reminds me of a Freddie Kitchens quote from
Speaker 1: late in the two thousand eighteen season where he basically said,
Speaker 1: if you're not making the defense guests before the snap,
Speaker 1: you're not doing it in today's NFL. And Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: since he came, you know, since he's been on that
Speaker 1: staff for a couple of years as a quarterbacks coach,
Speaker 1: I was just I just hadn't put a lot of
Speaker 1: thought into what changes he's gonna bring. I just sort
Speaker 1: of thought, maybe it'll be more of the same, but
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, who who worked with Kellen Moore UH in Detroit,
Speaker 1: talked about this. I'm glad you brought it up Mike
Speaker 1: on the Mini Kinds podcast one time, saying he expects
Speaker 1: them to go for wide a lot. He expects Dac
Speaker 1: to be running the ball ball a lot like spread,
Speaker 1: a lot of movement all around, and that it will
Speaker 1: be more of those sort of I would explain why
Speaker 1: they didn't cut Alan hearns right. They want to go
Speaker 1: for a while like boise and spread and just a
Speaker 1: lot more principles, which is totally different than what they Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree it, Yeah, technically, what are you thinking about that?
Speaker 1: These Cowboys? You know, I don't know. I think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You guys don't give them enough credit. But
Speaker 1: they got as far as they did last year, and
Speaker 1: you guys still aren't sold on them. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're especially exciting team, but they got to where they
Speaker 1: were for the for a reason. I guess I can't
Speaker 1: argue with the numbers solid. I think that's good. You know,
Speaker 1: it is an exciting team. The Shield uh and a
Speaker 1: big match against the six and two Barneys Nooners and
Speaker 1: always a long time rival, our longest rival. This is
Speaker 1: like Steelers Ravens. We we didn't just beat Barney's Nooners.
Speaker 1: We embarrassed them. We humbled them, throttled, throttled, man handled,
Speaker 1: man handled. It was a humiliating affair in which we
Speaker 1: put up six runs in the top of the first
Speaker 1: and really never looked back. There was never the game
Speaker 1: was never in doubt. It was ten nothing by the
Speaker 1: end of the second. We won twenty six to six.
Speaker 1: This is one of the teams we played in the
Speaker 1: playoffs when I was there. It's a team we beat
Speaker 1: in the finals the first year. They were reduced to rubble,
Speaker 1: to the point where they were grobbling about the umpire.
Speaker 1: They like to complain. Yeah, they were down runs and
Speaker 1: complaining about the strikes the umpire. Even after the game.
Speaker 1: We were having a couple of rude dogs, so up ratings,
Speaker 1: enjoying ourselves, and the umpire, who is also working the
Speaker 1: second game of the night in between innings, leaned over
Speaker 1: to us and and basically cursed out out. The team
Speaker 1: was like, they're telling me that the strike zones off,
Speaker 1: You're losing by twenty runs. Terrible strategy by them. They'll
Speaker 1: see that ump again, I'm sure. And in related shield news,
Speaker 1: Ricky people did throw it out there. They floated the
Speaker 1: possibility that are missing um female outfielder. Maybe there's some
Speaker 1: connected tissue between you starting the game that caused her
Speaker 1: to storm out with her dog and then the fire
Speaker 1: at your apartment day. It could have been it could
Speaker 1: have been some foul play. I mean, if you wanted
Speaker 1: to press charges, I'm not saying that. I I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go down to the police station with you. I don't
Speaker 1: think like after the softball game speculation counts as actual
Speaker 1: research on this. I get like a low level p
Speaker 1: I on that though. Yeah, all right, let's go around
Speaker 1: the horn again. Let's be a little quicker this time.
Speaker 1: Let's kind of just make our points and we try
Speaker 1: to get around one more times. Yeah, summer break begins.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention the conversation Caroline about their new three
Speaker 1: four defense that Ron River has been there for seven years.
Speaker 1: He's running four three defense the whole time. You kind
Speaker 1: of think of them as this big four man front.
Speaker 1: They are a three four defense and they are like
Speaker 1: hammering home pretty hard. Kwan Short is now a defensive end.
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy is a defensive end. Uh. You know, Luke
Speaker 1: Kickley is going to be in a different role, and
Speaker 1: that's something that's kind of I think I saw it
Speaker 1: once early on, but it didn't really strike me as
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But that is a pretty
Speaker 1: big change for them, and it's interesting that a coach
Speaker 1: that's been there for so long just wants to make
Speaker 1: a change like that, and I think it's smart. I
Speaker 1: think you go with the personnel that you have and
Speaker 1: what you think is gonna be best. It sounds like
Speaker 1: the Patriots are also going to be doing more four
Speaker 1: linebackers on the field uh this year too, so to
Speaker 1: two teams that have been around a while and have
Speaker 1: gone back and forth because they have good linebackers. In
Speaker 1: New England, it makes Brian Burns one of the most
Speaker 1: important rookies in the league right because they need him
Speaker 1: to be kind of that rusher that Yeah, it's standing up. Um.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows I love the Jets and I try not
Speaker 1: to talk about them too much. You'd be surprised to
Speaker 1: hear that I really do hold back. If I could
Speaker 1: do it, I would talk about them. Every episode would
Speaker 1: just be a Jets podcast. I I love the Jets.
Speaker 1: They're my favorite team. But you know what, it's it's
Speaker 1: been a rough you know, seven or eight years almost
Speaker 1: running in the entire span of my time working here.
Speaker 1: But for the first time, I'm so excited. There's there's
Speaker 1: optimism in a way that um, I don't remember even
Speaker 1: with the Rex Ryan years that kind of snuck up
Speaker 1: on you when they got good and then before you
Speaker 1: could even like kind of get into the flow, but
Speaker 1: it was over. With the Jets. Now there just feels
Speaker 1: there's a bubbling in a sense that they're trending in
Speaker 1: the right direction and the higher of Joe Douglas. Uh,
Speaker 1: this week is just the latest example of that. And um,
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who I'm I'm very optimistic about making a
Speaker 1: big leap in year two and I'm not alone. Everyone
Speaker 1: that follows the game closely sees this guy is a great, great,
Speaker 1: um great potential water back and their Jets UM wide
Speaker 1: receivers coach had a great line at on Thursday at
Speaker 1: the Jets facility when he was asked to give an
Speaker 1: assessment of Donald's skills. Uh. Here is the quote. Excuse
Speaker 1: my French when I say this, but he's a dude.
Speaker 1: He's a dude with a farm and he's accurate as so.
Speaker 1: Excuse that I don't know who the Sean Jefferson the
Speaker 1: guy is. I don't know if he can coach wide
Speaker 1: receivers an I like the cut of his gin that
Speaker 1: used to be the Titans wide receivers coach. I remember
Speaker 1: he used to say Justin Hunter was going to be
Speaker 1: the next Randy moss Um. So that's a piggyback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like a piggyback and then you like the
Speaker 1: pigs neck open with a knife. He said other things too.
Speaker 1: I don't want to limit like the Sean Jefferson portfolio
Speaker 1: to just hyping Justin Hunter. The rest of the guys
Speaker 1: in the room will don't worry, but I, I honestly
Speaker 1: believe that. Um, it's just a fun time to be
Speaker 1: a jeff fan and nobody's gonna pull the wind out
Speaker 1: of my sales right now. I'm enjoying and I'm excited,
Speaker 1: even like Greg Williams said his press conference, doing Greg
Speaker 1: Williams things again, like telling letting people know that he
Speaker 1: told Jamal Adams that he's coached much better players than him.
Speaker 1: What jimmal Adam, She said, I have half better coaches.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Uh, well, you know, he's just tweaking. He's
Speaker 1: having fun. And again, everybody else can make fun of
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and Greg Williams. I like the coach on
Speaker 1: the second. I don't think in this room that we're
Speaker 1: anti Jets at all. We'd be happy for you if
Speaker 1: they were competitive. Okay, well, I'm just are you anti
Speaker 1: Browns for instance, Well, then certainly it goes in reverse,
Speaker 1: like no one. I think we're reading into this little differently.
Speaker 1: You said everyone else in the room would pour oil
Speaker 1: and salt and water and gas on something. I was
Speaker 1: talking about the chuckles over, Sean jeff It was I
Speaker 1: mostly want Erica to now make like one of those
Speaker 1: social videos where she has some good graphics with the
Speaker 1: image of Mark slidding a pig's Throaty kind of slipped
Speaker 1: under the radar thats who jumped on the pigs, but
Speaker 1: actually actually made a cutting motion for everyone that's not
Speaker 1: in the room of himself letting the works. It's called
Speaker 1: acting and performance. Did it look a little too natural anyway?
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, you're the man, and um, all those Jets haters.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a tough couple of years because
Speaker 1: we are on the rise, Matchup Revenge, Mark Revenge. You
Speaker 1: can tell because Dan's little nugget was Baker Mayfield based,
Speaker 1: and Dan is quietly heat seeking the Browns. He does
Speaker 1: not want the Browns to succeed he at all. You
Speaker 1: can feel it. I like that we are we are.
Speaker 1: We are setting a little seven year old Dan right here,
Speaker 1: all the little childhood emotions coming out, and it is
Speaker 1: overt and I love it. You're a sick man, No,
Speaker 1: you I am correct? Do you know it? We are
Speaker 1: did have some great plot lines, you know, because you
Speaker 1: are already annoyed by last year so much about what
Speaker 1: Baker may feel, Darnald the whole thing. Yes, you are,
Speaker 1: if I'm not, I mean this is this is a
Speaker 1: class accessor move. You're building things up in your brain.
Speaker 1: I want the Browns to be good. I want the
Speaker 1: Jets and the Browns to be playoff teams. I hope
Speaker 1: you'll feel the same way. I just expressed that I do.
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's something about it feels a little
Speaker 1: raw from the Jets angle, a lot of straw men
Speaker 1: about all these people can't stand the Jets. It's like,
Speaker 1: just we're fine if they're good. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: you specifically. Well, it's mind wants to make it that one.
Speaker 1: I would wonder what the other people in the room think.
Speaker 1: I think we finally have our answer to what happened
Speaker 1: if the Browns and Jets just became just a little
Speaker 1: bit interesting. No, I really do want the Browns. I
Speaker 1: want you to be happy. I don't need that, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I mean, you don't you don't want
Speaker 1: me to want you. I don't want. I don't want
Speaker 1: you railing on the week after week. That just simply
Speaker 1: lowers the enjoyment of certainly won't do that. I won't
Speaker 1: do that, I promise you. Why would I unless they
Speaker 1: deserve it, just like any other team. I will. We
Speaker 1: will see, all right, we will see. They both suck.
Speaker 1: We both argued about which which fan base has had
Speaker 1: it worse forever, and now we're now. If they both
Speaker 1: get good, it's gonna get effine ugly. I can feel it,
Speaker 1: not a one side. It just Mark's acting crazy. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that until today to the skip to week two,
Speaker 1: opening week. Whoever they're playing right, Seriously, I don't know
Speaker 1: why they did that. Actually, I will say they have
Speaker 1: Cleveland playing Tennessee. On who the Jets are playing. They
Speaker 1: should have just paired them up there. That's the and
Speaker 1: that's where Monday n I thought about it started. Well, no,
Speaker 1: but it's started there. Quit turking around here and put
Speaker 1: some sandwiches on the line. Uh sure, sure, the Jets
Speaker 1: will take our business. The Browns is gonna be a
Speaker 1: mess in September. So it's in New York. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets would be heavily favorite. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to Healy favorite. I'm happy to better say it would
Speaker 1: be at least at this very moment, I think they Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm setting the line at Jets minus one. You thought
Speaker 1: you thought, Hugh jetticks. I'm just saying I think I
Speaker 1: think the Browns would be favored at a neutral field.
Speaker 1: It's in New York. It's about Yeah, it's about a pick.
Speaker 1: You thought Hugh and and Todd Haley was bad. Just
Speaker 1: wait till Todd Monkin and Freddie Kitchen square off, no doubt,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Well, if we're gonna do it, let's have
Speaker 1: fun with it. Alright, Go ahead, West, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to follow. Alright, We're sticking on the fantasy football beat.
Speaker 1: Here alright, James Conner of the Steelers. Last year, we
Speaker 1: saw him used in the Levy on Bell three down roll,
Speaker 1: big pass catching volume and big running volume. And he
Speaker 1: is now saying the plan is to spread it around
Speaker 1: with Jaylen Samuel's and rookie Benny Snell. I'm saying, hold
Speaker 1: off on the panic button. If you're a James Conner
Speaker 1: devote football. Let's find out if Benny Snell is good
Speaker 1: enough to eat in to his workload. First, Let's find
Speaker 1: out if Jalen Samuels, who was barely used last year
Speaker 1: and Tim Honor got injured, was not impressive. I would
Speaker 1: not say in the limited time looked like Marcel Reaese.
Speaker 1: I mean Marcel Reese made a Pro Bowl. He put
Speaker 1: him in the right role. Yeah, he's been of an
Speaker 1: h back fullback kind of kind of gut. These things
Speaker 1: work for about a week or two until the overt
Speaker 1: better player needs to be used in a pinch, and
Speaker 1: then the Steelers love Benny Snell. In the draft. Most
Speaker 1: draft nicks I heard thought he was entirely too slow
Speaker 1: to be an NFL running back. Well, I get why
Speaker 1: they're thinking that way, because they have not made it
Speaker 1: to the mid halfway through December with a healthy running
Speaker 1: back and I don't know how long, you know, like
Speaker 1: they always load up their running backs and then they
Speaker 1: never quite make it healthy to the end of the
Speaker 1: year's with Levian Bell. Now Jim James Conner, can we
Speaker 1: get back? Well, I was just gonna say, that's a
Speaker 1: great June plan. And we hear this ald and then
Speaker 1: once the game start to coach says, my jobs on
Speaker 1: the line. I'm playing my best player. By the way, Greg,
Speaker 1: you under sold You gave him credit like this guy could,
Speaker 1: but you undersold it. Four time Pro Bowler, second Team
Speaker 1: All Pro two thousand thirteen. Yeah. I didn't really know
Speaker 1: how to respond because I was saying, Jalen Samuels wasn't
Speaker 1: that good? And then you you hit me with Marcel
Speaker 1: Rosy played fullback but plays a position that is extinct
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It was one of the It was
Speaker 1: one of those things like John qun is like a
Speaker 1: seventy four time Pro bowler, right exactly, but he had
Speaker 1: a nice couple of moments. Marcel. Well, there's Kyle Uschek
Speaker 1: and no one else. You're not wrong, all right. I
Speaker 1: know that we've talked about the Cardinals a bunch, But
Speaker 1: I thought that there was some interesting new information about
Speaker 1: for me, why they drafted in, increased information, why they
Speaker 1: went after Kyler Murray and made the changes they did
Speaker 1: and didn't have Josh Rose and suddenly learning a new offense,
Speaker 1: and it's because Kyler Murray. And this comes from Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald to Steve Wish basically said has been in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat from day one, that he is teaching the offense,
Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald, to all the other veterans that he
Speaker 1: basically has from the second he stepped in there showed
Speaker 1: total command to the point where the only issue that
Speaker 1: he not that he's been perfect, but the biggest issue
Speaker 1: that he faces is that this offense, which let's stop
Speaker 1: even throw out all the Chip Kelly business because they're
Speaker 1: completely different schemes. It's just that they're both unknown going
Speaker 1: into the first year. But this is a completely different,
Speaker 1: speed based, four wide type deal that's going to force
Speaker 1: defenders to make choices on every play. And the only
Speaker 1: thing that sort of slowed down Kyler Murray so far
Speaker 1: in camp has been that the veterans and other players
Speaker 1: who are not familiar familiar with Cliff Kingsbury's offense have
Speaker 1: been intellectually trying to figure out after the snap what
Speaker 1: to do and where to go. Everyone else is catching
Speaker 1: up to the quarterback, which to me, whether this works
Speaker 1: or not, I have put to bed any concerns about
Speaker 1: the draft choice they made because they found the quarterback
Speaker 1: that is perfect for their system, which is, what do
Speaker 1: you want to do with every position in your offense?
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna make this thing work? And Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury is not someone that probably would have been given
Speaker 1: a ten your rope to make it work. If it
Speaker 1: has has hiccups along the way, you go and get
Speaker 1: the guy. And so far and athletically they said, he's
Speaker 1: been like amazing to watch as well. This feels like
Speaker 1: a home run. And I'm thinking of our friend Jason Zelmwalt,
Speaker 1: Dan's childhood friend or college friend or adult friend that
Speaker 1: who became our adult friend, a great guy who has
Speaker 1: had to go through a lot of nonsense, just as
Speaker 1: much as us with the Cardinals. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: he's going to be excited because this team is going
Speaker 1: to be fun to watch, I hope. So I think
Speaker 1: he he might lead all time. Podcast like mentions in
Speaker 1: terms of not just like not part of the been
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but he's got to be close, right,
Speaker 1: Bob's in the mix. Spice rack, spice Rack. There's some
Speaker 1: this unnamed softball simone issue. This person. I can't name
Speaker 1: who the person on the softball team is, but alright,
Speaker 1: I want to go one more time around, even if
Speaker 1: you want to throw a double banger in there, just
Speaker 1: too quick. Now, I feel like I've just got a
Speaker 1: bunch of big s c pluses. So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go speed round and just
Speaker 1: say them all rapid fire. There is no more hyped
Speaker 1: player period from the O t A season than David Montgomery,
Speaker 1: the running back for the Bears. We've covered that a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he is. He is number one in
Speaker 1: terms of hype. Marquis Goodwin no longer gonna be playing
Speaker 1: that many snaps. They're having him do less routes. He
Speaker 1: is clearly not going to be a starter anymore. In
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Travis Frederick, who is kind of the key
Speaker 1: to that Cowboys offensive line, still has not been on
Speaker 1: the field for team drills at all yet, and he's
Speaker 1: coming back from a shoulder surgery and the Guian bear syndrome,
Speaker 1: So I feel like that is a major thing to
Speaker 1: watch in training camp. And then Titus Howard, who everyone
Speaker 1: assumed the Texans drafted to be their left tackle or
Speaker 1: right tackle, has played guard throughout training camp. And actually
Speaker 1: one more last one, how about Jarrett Stidham Patriots. Athletic
Speaker 1: Beat writer says Stidham looked better in his first couple
Speaker 1: of months than Jimmy g or Jacoby brist Do we
Speaker 1: have another quarterback to up? Jarretts did him their fourth
Speaker 1: round draft? Thank it's an athletic beat writer. What do
Speaker 1: you for the athletic beat writer, he's no Connes? All right,
Speaker 1: let's go up to Western New York. Lashawn McCoy coming
Speaker 1: off his worst season of his career three point two
Speaker 1: yards to carry. Uh, well, here's a great Lashawn McCoy quote.
Speaker 1: I'm the type of guy I thrive off having a
Speaker 1: big name, So when guys come to my team, they're
Speaker 1: curious to see how is Lashawn McCoy. Is he a
Speaker 1: good player? I mean, I'm a dominant player. I think
Speaker 1: that speaks for itself. But I'll be in the same
Speaker 1: role as last year, and I look forward to putting
Speaker 1: some numbers up and bouncing back from that last season.
Speaker 1: His accent. And by the way, you will not have
Speaker 1: the same role because now there's approximately forty seven veteran
Speaker 1: quarterbacks UH or running backs to compete with. Frank gor
Speaker 1: t j yelled in Devin Singletary, uh all on the roster.
Speaker 1: Singletary is the third round pick. He's gonna get some carries.
Speaker 1: We'll see what's happening with that running back position. UH.
Speaker 1: Kicker update the Bears, because they've made the US into
Speaker 1: a you know, I'll wait for the Bears have made
Speaker 1: this a total you know to do it's it's just
Speaker 1: the biggest story around this team is trying to find
Speaker 1: a kicker. Well, it's finally some good news out of camp.
Speaker 1: Naggi called on Elliott's small fry and cousin Eddie Pinero
Speaker 1: to try forty yarders. Now they're just moving in closer
Speaker 1: and closer, just looking for a win. It was forty two,
Speaker 1: now it's forty mrs would have meant conditioning work, makes
Speaker 1: practices over and they get started on their precamp break.
Speaker 1: While they nailed both the kicks, Snaggy, it was a
Speaker 1: win for them today. I feel like they've tried to
Speaker 1: do this thing where it's like creates a fun moment
Speaker 1: for the kicker like seven different times, and they finally work.
Speaker 1: They finally it was like a twelve yard field goal.
Speaker 1: I would hate going to work if I were a
Speaker 1: kicker in their organization. And my final nugget is, uh,
Speaker 1: I love trope alerts. I love this time of season
Speaker 1: because you can always find the same story over and over.
Speaker 1: It's mad libs. So let's go trop alert. Two stories
Speaker 1: to her. Gabriel of the Bears sees a quote drastic change,
Speaker 1: and Mitchell Trabsky's confidence. Big trope alert around confidence and
Speaker 1: especially the quarterback position. And one more also the quarterback
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He might be working with Tom House, the
Speaker 1: QB whisperer before training camp. Not even definitely, he might be.
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's working with Tom House, he said in l
Speaker 1: A too, so they hang out together? He did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he asked of of Lamar Jackson, and uh then got
Speaker 1: a some sort of a fist bump that they talked
Speaker 1: about endlessly on NFL Network. It sounds like it, but yes,
Speaker 1: insert young quarterback here to work with Tom House before
Speaker 1: training camp every year book at West Devantie Freeman healthy,
Speaker 1: looking like his old self and no longer his Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman to contend with for touches. Keep him on your
Speaker 1: radar and fantasy as a bounce back guy him he
Speaker 1: can play another guy carry on Johnson from the lines.
Speaker 1: Theo Riddic no lock to make this roster and they
Speaker 1: want to pass the ball to carry on Johnson more
Speaker 1: this year. He looked phenomenal before his season ending injury
Speaker 1: last year. Another interesting fantasy guy uh Trent Taylor of
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, separating from Richie James for the
Speaker 1: slot receiver rule. Trent Taylor is gonna win that job
Speaker 1: because he's a good player. Um Scott Miller of the
Speaker 1: Bucks rookie sixth rounder getting some John Brown buzz as
Speaker 1: the new John Brown and Bruce Arians offense. We'll keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that one in the preseason. Smokey Jr.
Speaker 1: Smokey Jr. And the Colts may have the most enviable
Speaker 1: tight end depth in the league. Jack Doyle back on
Speaker 1: the field running routes after surgery. Eric Ebron coming off
Speaker 1: a record setting season for touchdowns in Indianapolis, and mo
Speaker 1: Ali Cox looks like he could be the new the
Speaker 1: next um basketball to tight end star cults are gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem. Close it out, Mark Hey. I thought
Speaker 1: it interesting that in Pittsburgh b reporters who were trying
Speaker 1: to find out what Terrell Austin's role was. Terrell Austin's
Speaker 1: role was as coach there and that he's been hired
Speaker 1: a essentially to be someone that is that deals almost
Speaker 1: essentially with just on field challenges, to help Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: with challenges, because Tomlin's had some issues with that in
Speaker 1: the past. In Minnesota, Kevin Stefanski, who was almost tired
Speaker 1: by the Browns to do that role that Todd Monkin
Speaker 1: is now in, is now there well also for head coach.
Speaker 1: They say that Kirk Cousins essentially the minute that he
Speaker 1: became the o C last year Kevin Stefanski, the Cousins
Speaker 1: settled down and felt much better. They liked the relationship.
Speaker 1: People can see it. Obviously, Mike Zimmer's very happy because
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is probably running the entire thing like the
Speaker 1: Emperor from Star Wars behind the scenes. And I thought
Speaker 1: this was interesting that they did an interview UM it
Speaker 1: was Tom Pellicero with Stefan Diggs and Adam Thealan and
Speaker 1: Adam Thealan, I love him, both very likable guys, would
Speaker 1: not stop talking. And Stefan Diggs did that thing where
Speaker 1: where there's two people on an interview and Digs is like,
Speaker 1: when am I going to get a chance to talk here?
Speaker 1: And at one point he said one little thing and
Speaker 1: then theland jumped back in with another like two and
Speaker 1: a half minute long comment, and Diggs, who I think
Speaker 1: it is a pretty charismatic do, was like, I'm on
Speaker 1: NFL network. I want my due now. Maybe I read
Speaker 1: the entire thing wrong. If you're listening network, this is
Speaker 1: what we're looking for. I got to find a link
Speaker 1: to that Chris Hair. You remember him. He works for
Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly, the podcast and I've been on a Good Guy.
Speaker 1: He also worked on our Pick Him show that went
Speaker 1: south after two seasons. But he told me that Gus
Speaker 1: Bradley down a Chargers camp has been talking up linebacker
Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil out of Notre Dame. And if you think
Speaker 1: I feel like the Chargers linebacker corps in years past,
Speaker 1: not talking about their pass rushers has been an issue,
Speaker 1: it's starting to get deep and that defense has very
Speaker 1: few weaknesses at all. Also another linebacker update in the
Speaker 1: cults system. They could not be any better with Derris
Speaker 1: Leonard out right now linebacker Bobby Okariki if I'm saying
Speaker 1: that right has been dominant so far in camp activities.
Speaker 1: So nice, the rich get richer on that front. And
Speaker 1: the last one I have for you, said Jerry McDonald.
Speaker 1: I know it suddenly feels like a two minute sports update.
Speaker 1: Derry McDonald out of the Barry and newsgroups, We're like, Oh,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brownie's gonna fall off a cliff now that he's
Speaker 1: got Derek Carr's just gonna be over. He's just gonna
Speaker 1: be annoying but not good. Said that the best training
Speaker 1: camp performers he's ever seen our quarterback Jeff George and
Speaker 1: running back Darren McFadden, largely because they cannot be hit
Speaker 1: or tackled in these camp practices. But the same goes
Speaker 1: for Antonio brown saying that he's never seen anything like
Speaker 1: it on the field. Cover cover the Raiders for a
Speaker 1: long time. Thank you make man back after this, um,
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else? Erica? No, No, I didn't
Speaker 1: think so, a little disappointing. Yeah, way to bring the
Speaker 1: shadow of screeching. No I mean, I can't follow follow Mark.
Speaker 1: That was so good. I'm interested to see a lot
Speaker 1: of the quarterback battles. That's always that's good. Good Dan,
Speaker 1: your hair looks bad today, called for Goo'd like go
Speaker 1: to Vaga football analysis. That is you know how to
Speaker 1: hurt me and you have and it Actually, you're right,
Speaker 1: I'm not using my Redkin product. It's looking good. It's fine.
Speaker 1: It's like this show all right before we go, um,
Speaker 1: it is the final show of the UM school year. Well,
Speaker 1: I caught that a long school year. It started late
Speaker 1: last July's come to close here. You see how they're
Speaker 1: doing this to us. By the way, when we started
Speaker 1: the NFL, there was there's defined boundaries. Now this our
Speaker 1: school year goes from late July to mid June. That's rough,
Speaker 1: and we're by the way, it's not we're in summer
Speaker 1: school also because it's not like we're going away. So
Speaker 1: now we'll be back with two shows next week, so yeah,
Speaker 1: tune in for that. UM. Also, the NFL Media Talent
Speaker 1: Summit is next week and we're gonna try. We can't.
Speaker 1: This is not a promise, but that means everyone kind
Speaker 1: of they have everyone fly into Los Angeles and they're
Speaker 1: this big old meeting with all the suits and and
Speaker 1: it's like an auditorium. It is kind of like being
Speaker 1: back in school, a summer school at a swanky Hoholt
Speaker 1: hotel on on the water here UM, and we play
Speaker 1: the role of kind of like the you know, the
Speaker 1: kind of the nerdy, like the creative nerdy guys in
Speaker 1: the back that everyone likes, but not really ultimately a
Speaker 1: part of the important power, right like when we got
Speaker 1: they did last year they did something I like those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, but ultimately not the big movie and shaking
Speaker 1: last year or something. I don't know if it comes back,
Speaker 1: but they um organized some type of improv session where
Speaker 1: they're calling up all different you know, big stars and
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner and Shack and Colleen h we got called
Speaker 1: up to and I'm sure there was some internal monologue
Speaker 1: and going on with like a Michael Irvin by the
Speaker 1: for for one, Like is that basically yeah? So that
Speaker 1: will probably happen again, will be flooded with those same
Speaker 1: feelings of insecurity. Dean Sanders did say hello to me,
Speaker 1: not because he knows who I am, just because I
Speaker 1: was simply in his way. Excuse me that young buck.
Speaker 1: All right, before we go, Mark, why don't you um
Speaker 1: do your thing and take us away with one of
Speaker 1: your famous Mark Sessler meditations. Take a deep breath in,
Speaker 1: and as you breathe out, close your eyes and begin
Speaker 1: to relax, bringing attention to your breath. Let go of
Speaker 1: your concerns, your day to day worries, and see yourself
Speaker 1: as a being of light. Traveling now along a beautiful
Speaker 1: seaside cliff, your feet touching the sandy path below. Now
Speaker 1: you pause to sit and rest on a calm patch
Speaker 1: of green grass along the cliff. The air is salty
Speaker 1: and alive, the sea below crashing against the rocks. You
Speaker 1: feel your troubles flittering away in the ocean air. And
Speaker 1: then you see a figure approaching down the path, sturdy
Speaker 1: and strong and caring. And now this figure is kneeling
Speaker 1: down beside you, smiling, and it is West, in a
Speaker 1: lush vacation cardigan picked out by Lakisha especially for you
Speaker 1: to enjoy. West smiles and calmly begins to tell you
Speaker 1: a wine Dan narrative about the Jerry Tarkanian let U
Speaker 1: n LV Running Rebels basketball dynasty of the early nineties.
Speaker 1: Stacy Agman was a key figure. He tells you you
Speaker 1: feel a sense of enormous piece with West sitting beside you,
Speaker 1: the feeling of almost being underwater in that ocean below,
Speaker 1: surrounded by the endless sea. But also you are very wet.
Speaker 1: Your clothes are soaked, annoyingly so. And that is because,
Speaker 1: from high above, on a cliff way up Erica Tampos
Speaker 1: has launched a globe sized water balloon into the air,
Speaker 1: a balloon that landed point blank on your crown chakra.
Speaker 1: Never trade for Iranian arms, she shouts, never do it.
Speaker 1: Fell for meditation over