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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't pay meiche for this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined it in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Whistling Whistling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosetal. What is up, boys, Chris Whistling Whistling? Hey, Dan, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're telling Chris Blue, Chris Blue to change his name.

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Speaker 1: Whistling is a very fine, strong name, but Chris Whistling

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Speaker 1: has a look that's there's some field whistling past the graveyard.

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Speaker 1: You smile immediately when you think of that as a

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Speaker 1: last name. I like it. Um, Hi, everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Friday Show. How's everybody feeling in the studio? By

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Speaker 1: the way, this is it, Mark You we talked about

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Speaker 1: it all year long and you lament the fact that

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Speaker 1: the end of certain you know, certain season benchmarks like

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Speaker 1: the end of the regular season, the end of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: even the draft, and it's like, oh, well, it's offseason

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Speaker 1: time now, and you're always saying not for us, it's

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Speaker 1: not you know, Well, guess what this is it. This

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Speaker 1: is the last three show week before essentially the summer

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Speaker 1: break of the NFL. This is the end of the

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Speaker 1: road for us that started in late July of two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have made I feel like if and

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Speaker 1: concerted effort to be less mouthy about that process because

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Speaker 1: avalanche of activity that is just with each day coming

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Speaker 1: closer and close. Like when you were a kid and

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Speaker 1: could look at it two ways. When like August first hit,

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Speaker 1: it down. I'm like, we have got this is going

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Speaker 1: very bad. We haven't been tougher than a lot of

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding a ton to know. Dan and I've

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Speaker 1: gotten together to look at some odd games from Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was. There was one comment on Twitter today, actually

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Speaker 1: it really on this topic, saying absolutely on fire this

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Speaker 1: mean it's someone's noticed. I appreciate that. As I've said

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Speaker 1: at least we're not failing. UH. Today's show last Friday, West,

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Speaker 1: while you were on your vacation after your honeymoon, we

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Speaker 1: um O t A s for the teams that were

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Speaker 1: active last week. This week, even more teams were in

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Speaker 1: are going to gonna go boomerang style back and forth

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Speaker 1: throwing out some takeaways from the week that was whispers maybe,

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Speaker 1: break it. And I think Erica should jump into and

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Speaker 1: and do a piggyback and have her own whisper. You

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Speaker 1: have absolutely four minutes to get this ready. Erica absolutely

430
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Speaker 1: big breakout candidate this year. I'm trying to identify some

431
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Speaker 1: guys if our listeners haven't been paying attention this offseason,

432
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Speaker 1: some guys to keep in mind for training camp as

433
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Speaker 1: breakout candidates for Fantasy And to me, the most obvious

434
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Speaker 1: one is Marcus Valdes Scantling from the Packers vs. Who

435
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Speaker 1: you here. He's picking up Matt Laflora's offense faster than anybody.

436
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers says, he's in every down layer. Their beat

437
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Speaker 1: writers are saying, it's not Geronal moll Alison playing next

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Speaker 1: to Davante Adams into two wide receiver sets. It's mvs

439
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Speaker 1: playing there. And this guy, I believe, at one point

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Speaker 1: in his rookie year, had three yard games in a

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Speaker 1: four week span. Um he can play, so to me,

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Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers trusts him, and it sounds like he does,

443
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is one of the guys saying that this

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Speaker 1: guy is ready to take on this rule. You know

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Speaker 1: that they didn't pick up anybody in the off season

446
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: because we talked about it over and over again. Packers

447
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: need to pick somebody up. They must have a lot

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Speaker 1: of confidence in MVS, who, to me looks like a

449
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Speaker 1: huge breakout candidate. You want to piggyback, I'll give you one.

450
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: Along with the fact that the offense fits him absolutely perfectly.

451
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like it just maximizes everything they like about him.

452
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Speaker 1: And it's a speed based offense. And we know that.

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Speaker 1: But Michael Silver, let's go back to He's been working hard,

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Speaker 1: he's been grinding his story. We know that Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is a friend of Michael Silver and someone that speaks

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Speaker 1: to Michael Silver. And it was Rogers asked about this offense,

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Speaker 1: said that as just as Davante Adams has said, and MVS.

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Speaker 1: And either way, his nickname is MVS. I discovered he was.

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Speaker 1: He was quoted at in the in the show you

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Speaker 1: weren't here. We said, if you're not using MVS as

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Speaker 1: a nickname, you're an idiot. But he is. And we

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Speaker 1: thought you might get in the way of Michael David

463
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Speaker 1: Smith the Pro Football Talk MDS. But apparently the Packers

464
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Speaker 1: can see the difference between those two. Well we yes,

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Speaker 1: we When we did the show last Friday, I talked

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Speaker 1: about MVS and Aaron Ross supposed to interrupt, but he added,

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Speaker 1: he added A L. Mark had a piggyback, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to jump on his piggyback. Well, so let

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Speaker 1: me let me finish this, then you can piggyback on this.

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Speaker 1: But Rogers, on top of saying that the defense would

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Speaker 1: be stretched with speed and tempo and liking all that,

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Speaker 1: did express concern for Silver about less of a chance

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Speaker 1: to audible down out of a play at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, which we know he has wont to do

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Speaker 1: and one of the best in the league of doing,

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Speaker 1: and actually had a quote that said, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you want me to turn off eleven years of experience.

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Speaker 1: So what will happen between and Aaron Rodgers? He calls

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Speaker 1: out players now and again. You know, if you're Baker Mayfield, tiss, tiss,

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Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers, so you're going to the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: But what happens between Aaron Rudds and head coach there

482
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Speaker 1: in terms of when they you know, Aaron Rodgers wants

483
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Speaker 1: to do what he does on every snap, which is

484
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Speaker 1: like draw six people off sides by using his jargon

485
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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage before the clock expires. What happens? Well,

486
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Speaker 1: I this a Mondo piggy bank or is that your topic?

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Speaker 1: That is not my topic? I think this is. You know,

488
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Speaker 1: let's mark down the day June thirteenth that Mark started

489
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Speaker 1: turning against the two thousand nineteen Packers and trying to

490
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Speaker 1: start drama. We got six months into the year. Al Right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: what do you got? I there wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 1: news out of Cowboys camp, but there's something about it

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Speaker 1: when you talk about whispers and mystery, and I have

494
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Speaker 1: long for long periods of time outside of Zeke Elliott

495
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Speaker 1: found the Cowboys offense to be somewhat dull, and you're

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Speaker 1: exposed to it on a heavy basis because it's on

497
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Speaker 1: there on Prime Time left and right, and the Dak

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00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott experience I thought sunk a little

499
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Speaker 1: bit last year where at times, until they kind of

500
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Speaker 1: got their judeticularly their groove together with the Marie Cooper,

501
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: things were an issue. But now that Kellen Moore, their

502
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Speaker 1: previous backup, is now their offensive coordinator, there are these

503
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Speaker 1: amazing reports coming out about what they're planning to do

504
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Speaker 1: with this offense, and it uses a lot of plays

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Speaker 1: that they've had in place, even when Kellen Moore was

506
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback and Scott Lenahan was running a rather stale system.

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Speaker 1: But now Kellen Moore, who always was described as a

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Speaker 1: coach his son who would be a future coach, is

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Speaker 1: in that role. He is bringing huge elements of what

510
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Speaker 1: he ran at Boise and basically what that means from

511
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Speaker 1: a really nice report if you want to check it out.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, Joseph Farreolia of Inside the

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Speaker 1: Pylon dot Com went deep on this. It is a

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Speaker 1: whisper packed piece, in my opinion, about an offense that

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Speaker 1: is going to essentially do everything they can to f

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Speaker 1: up the defense before the ball is snapped, with an

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Speaker 1: array of formations, snap motions, shifts, all sorts of stuff

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Speaker 1: where they're going to use disguises to keep the defense

519
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Speaker 1: on their heels while deck presscot will get more time

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Speaker 1: to look at coverage. Is all that sounds like what

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Speaker 1: every team does, except it's not what the Cowboys were

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Speaker 1: doing before. They're adding all of this to the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 1: And the comment also was that Zeke Elliott has really

524
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Speaker 1: looked good in this situation. Amari Cooper talked about it

525
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Speaker 1: as being something we are running the same place, but

526
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: we're disguising them, and he feels like he is in

527
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: a much better system for him as well. So it's

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Speaker 1: a whisper because we're not seeing a lot of it today,

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Speaker 1: but the Cowboys as a more exciting team, and when

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Speaker 1: you pair it with their defense, which I think if

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Speaker 1: we look at if you can pick up where you

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00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: left off last year, hard to do. Don't just hand

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Speaker 1: out the NFC East to someone else quite yet. I'm

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00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: excited about that, aren't you, guys. I mean, I'm with Mark,

535
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Speaker 1: and they've been a tough offense to watch. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: And it reminds me of a Freddie Kitchens quote from

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Speaker 1: late in the two thousand eighteen season where he basically said,

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Speaker 1: if you're not making the defense guests before the snap,

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Speaker 1: you're not doing it in today's NFL. And Kellen Moore

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00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: since he came, you know, since he's been on that

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Speaker 1: staff for a couple of years as a quarterbacks coach,

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Speaker 1: I was just I just hadn't put a lot of

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Speaker 1: thought into what changes he's gonna bring. I just sort

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Speaker 1: of thought, maybe it'll be more of the same, but

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, who who worked with Kellen Moore UH in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: talked about this. I'm glad you brought it up Mike

547
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Speaker 1: on the Mini Kinds podcast one time, saying he expects

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Speaker 1: them to go for wide a lot. He expects Dac

549
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Speaker 1: to be running the ball ball a lot like spread,

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Speaker 1: a lot of movement all around, and that it will

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Speaker 1: be more of those sort of I would explain why

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Speaker 1: they didn't cut Alan hearns right. They want to go

553
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: for a while like boise and spread and just a

554
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: lot more principles, which is totally different than what they Yeah,

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00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I agree it, Yeah, technically, what are you thinking about that?

556
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: These Cowboys? You know, I don't know. I think that

557
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You guys don't give them enough credit. But

558
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Speaker 1: they got as far as they did last year, and

559
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: you guys still aren't sold on them. I don't think

560
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Speaker 1: they're especially exciting team, but they got to where they

561
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: were for the for a reason. I guess I can't

562
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Speaker 1: argue with the numbers solid. I think that's good. You know,

563
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: it is an exciting team. The Shield uh and a

564
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: big match against the six and two Barneys Nooners and

565
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: always a long time rival, our longest rival. This is

566
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Speaker 1: like Steelers Ravens. We we didn't just beat Barney's Nooners.

567
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Speaker 1: We embarrassed them. We humbled them, throttled, throttled, man handled,

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Speaker 1: man handled. It was a humiliating affair in which we

569
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Speaker 1: put up six runs in the top of the first

570
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Speaker 1: and really never looked back. There was never the game

571
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Speaker 1: was never in doubt. It was ten nothing by the

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Speaker 1: end of the second. We won twenty six to six.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the teams we played in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs when I was there. It's a team we beat

575
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Speaker 1: in the finals the first year. They were reduced to rubble,

576
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Speaker 1: to the point where they were grobbling about the umpire.

577
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: They like to complain. Yeah, they were down runs and

578
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: complaining about the strikes the umpire. Even after the game.

579
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Speaker 1: We were having a couple of rude dogs, so up ratings,

580
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Speaker 1: enjoying ourselves, and the umpire, who is also working the

581
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: second game of the night in between innings, leaned over

582
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Speaker 1: to us and and basically cursed out out. The team

583
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Speaker 1: was like, they're telling me that the strike zones off,

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Speaker 1: You're losing by twenty runs. Terrible strategy by them. They'll

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Speaker 1: see that ump again, I'm sure. And in related shield news,

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Speaker 1: Ricky people did throw it out there. They floated the

587
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Speaker 1: possibility that are missing um female outfielder. Maybe there's some

588
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Speaker 1: connected tissue between you starting the game that caused her

589
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Speaker 1: to storm out with her dog and then the fire

590
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: at your apartment day. It could have been it could

591
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: have been some foul play. I mean, if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to press charges, I'm not saying that. I I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go down to the police station with you. I don't

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Speaker 1: think like after the softball game speculation counts as actual

595
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Speaker 1: research on this. I get like a low level p

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Speaker 1: I on that though. Yeah, all right, let's go around

597
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: the horn again. Let's be a little quicker this time.

598
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Speaker 1: Let's kind of just make our points and we try

599
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: to get around one more times. Yeah, summer break begins.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention the conversation Caroline about their new three

601
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Speaker 1: four defense that Ron River has been there for seven years.

602
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: He's running four three defense the whole time. You kind

603
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: of think of them as this big four man front.

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00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: They are a three four defense and they are like

605
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 1: hammering home pretty hard. Kwan Short is now a defensive end.

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy is a defensive end. Uh. You know, Luke

607
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Kickley is going to be in a different role, and

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00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: that's something that's kind of I think I saw it

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Speaker 1: once early on, but it didn't really strike me as

610
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Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But that is a pretty

611
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: big change for them, and it's interesting that a coach

612
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Speaker 1: that's been there for so long just wants to make

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Speaker 1: a change like that, and I think it's smart. I

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Speaker 1: think you go with the personnel that you have and

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Speaker 1: what you think is gonna be best. It sounds like

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00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots are also going to be doing more four

617
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: linebackers on the field uh this year too, so to

618
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: two teams that have been around a while and have

619
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Speaker 1: gone back and forth because they have good linebackers. In

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Speaker 1: New England, it makes Brian Burns one of the most

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Speaker 1: important rookies in the league right because they need him

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: to be kind of that rusher that Yeah, it's standing up. Um.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows I love the Jets and I try not

624
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: to talk about them too much. You'd be surprised to

625
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: hear that I really do hold back. If I could

626
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: do it, I would talk about them. Every episode would

627
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: just be a Jets podcast. I I love the Jets.

628
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: They're my favorite team. But you know what, it's it's

629
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: been a rough you know, seven or eight years almost

630
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: running in the entire span of my time working here.

631
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Speaker 1: But for the first time, I'm so excited. There's there's

632
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: optimism in a way that um, I don't remember even

633
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: with the Rex Ryan years that kind of snuck up

634
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: on you when they got good and then before you

635
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: could even like kind of get into the flow, but

636
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: it was over. With the Jets. Now there just feels

637
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: there's a bubbling in a sense that they're trending in

638
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: the right direction and the higher of Joe Douglas. Uh,

639
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Speaker 1: this week is just the latest example of that. And um,

640
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who I'm I'm very optimistic about making a

641
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: big leap in year two and I'm not alone. Everyone

642
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: that follows the game closely sees this guy is a great, great,

643
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: um great potential water back and their Jets UM wide

644
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: receivers coach had a great line at on Thursday at

645
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: the Jets facility when he was asked to give an

646
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: assessment of Donald's skills. Uh. Here is the quote. Excuse

647
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: my French when I say this, but he's a dude.

648
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: He's a dude with a farm and he's accurate as so.

649
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Excuse that I don't know who the Sean Jefferson the

650
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: guy is. I don't know if he can coach wide

651
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: receivers an I like the cut of his gin that

652
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: used to be the Titans wide receivers coach. I remember

653
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: he used to say Justin Hunter was going to be

654
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the next Randy moss Um. So that's a piggyback. Yeah,

655
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: that was like a piggyback and then you like the

656
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: pigs neck open with a knife. He said other things too.

657
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to limit like the Sean Jefferson portfolio

658
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: to just hyping Justin Hunter. The rest of the guys

659
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: in the room will don't worry, but I, I honestly

660
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: believe that. Um, it's just a fun time to be

661
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: a jeff fan and nobody's gonna pull the wind out

662
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: of my sales right now. I'm enjoying and I'm excited,

663
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: even like Greg Williams said his press conference, doing Greg

664
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Williams things again, like telling letting people know that he

665
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: told Jamal Adams that he's coached much better players than him.

666
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: What jimmal Adam, She said, I have half better coaches.

667
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: Thank you? Uh, well, you know, he's just tweaking. He's

668
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: having fun. And again, everybody else can make fun of

669
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and Greg Williams. I like the coach on

670
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: the second. I don't think in this room that we're

671
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: anti Jets at all. We'd be happy for you if

672
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: they were competitive. Okay, well, I'm just are you anti

673
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Browns for instance, Well, then certainly it goes in reverse,

674
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: like no one. I think we're reading into this little differently.

675
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: You said everyone else in the room would pour oil

676
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: and salt and water and gas on something. I was

677
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: talking about the chuckles over, Sean jeff It was I

678
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: mostly want Erica to now make like one of those

679
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: social videos where she has some good graphics with the

680
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: image of Mark slidding a pig's Throaty kind of slipped

681
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: under the radar thats who jumped on the pigs, but

682
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: actually actually made a cutting motion for everyone that's not

683
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: in the room of himself letting the works. It's called

684
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: acting and performance. Did it look a little too natural anyway?

685
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, you're the man, and um, all those Jets haters.

686
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: It's going to be a tough couple of years because

687
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: we are on the rise, Matchup Revenge, Mark Revenge. You

688
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: can tell because Dan's little nugget was Baker Mayfield based,

689
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and Dan is quietly heat seeking the Browns. He does

690
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: not want the Browns to succeed he at all. You

691
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: can feel it. I like that we are we are.

692
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: We are setting a little seven year old Dan right here,

693
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: all the little childhood emotions coming out, and it is

694
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: overt and I love it. You're a sick man, No,

695
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: you I am correct? Do you know it? We are

696
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: did have some great plot lines, you know, because you

697
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: are already annoyed by last year so much about what

698
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Baker may feel, Darnald the whole thing. Yes, you are,

699
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: if I'm not, I mean this is this is a

700
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: class accessor move. You're building things up in your brain.

701
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: I want the Browns to be good. I want the

702
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: Jets and the Browns to be playoff teams. I hope

703
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: you'll feel the same way. I just expressed that I do.

704
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's something about it feels a little

705
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: raw from the Jets angle, a lot of straw men

706
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: about all these people can't stand the Jets. It's like,

707
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: just we're fine if they're good. I'm not talking about

708
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: you specifically. Well, it's mind wants to make it that one.

709
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: I would wonder what the other people in the room think.

710
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: I think we finally have our answer to what happened

711
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: if the Browns and Jets just became just a little

712
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: bit interesting. No, I really do want the Browns. I

713
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: want you to be happy. I don't need that, but

714
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I mean, you don't you don't want

715
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: me to want you. I don't want. I don't want

716
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: you railing on the week after week. That just simply

717
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: lowers the enjoyment of certainly won't do that. I won't

718
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: do that, I promise you. Why would I unless they

719
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: deserve it, just like any other team. I will. We

720
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: will see, all right, we will see. They both suck.

721
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: We both argued about which which fan base has had

722
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: it worse forever, and now we're now. If they both

723
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: get good, it's gonna get effine ugly. I can feel it,

724
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: not a one side. It just Mark's acting crazy. I

725
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: didn't think that until today to the skip to week two,

726
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: opening week. Whoever they're playing right, Seriously, I don't know

727
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: why they did that. Actually, I will say they have

728
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: Cleveland playing Tennessee. On who the Jets are playing. They

729
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: should have just paired them up there. That's the and

730
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: that's where Monday n I thought about it started. Well, no,

731
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: but it's started there. Quit turking around here and put

732
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: some sandwiches on the line. Uh sure, sure, the Jets

733
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: will take our business. The Browns is gonna be a

734
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: mess in September. So it's in New York. I mean,

735
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I think the Jets would be heavily favorite. I'm happy

736
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: to Healy favorite. I'm happy to better say it would

737
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: be at least at this very moment, I think they Yeah,

738
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: I'm setting the line at Jets minus one. You thought

739
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: you thought, Hugh jetticks. I'm just saying I think I

740
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: think the Browns would be favored at a neutral field.

741
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: It's in New York. It's about Yeah, it's about a pick.

742
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: You thought Hugh and and Todd Haley was bad. Just

743
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: wait till Todd Monkin and Freddie Kitchen square off, no doubt,

744
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: don't worry. Well, if we're gonna do it, let's have

745
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: fun with it. Alright, Go ahead, West, that's gonna be

746
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: hard to follow. Alright, We're sticking on the fantasy football beat.

747
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Here alright, James Conner of the Steelers. Last year, we

748
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: saw him used in the Levy on Bell three down roll,

749
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: big pass catching volume and big running volume. And he

750
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: is now saying the plan is to spread it around

751
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: with Jaylen Samuel's and rookie Benny Snell. I'm saying, hold

752
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: off on the panic button. If you're a James Conner

753
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: devote football. Let's find out if Benny Snell is good

754
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: enough to eat in to his workload. First, Let's find

755
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: out if Jalen Samuels, who was barely used last year

756
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: and Tim Honor got injured, was not impressive. I would

757
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: not say in the limited time looked like Marcel Reaese.

758
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean Marcel Reese made a Pro Bowl. He put

759
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: him in the right role. Yeah, he's been of an

760
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: h back fullback kind of kind of gut. These things

761
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: work for about a week or two until the overt

762
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: better player needs to be used in a pinch, and

763
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: then the Steelers love Benny Snell. In the draft. Most

764
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: draft nicks I heard thought he was entirely too slow

765
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: to be an NFL running back. Well, I get why

766
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: they're thinking that way, because they have not made it

767
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: to the mid halfway through December with a healthy running

768
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: back and I don't know how long, you know, like

769
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: they always load up their running backs and then they

770
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: never quite make it healthy to the end of the

771
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: year's with Levian Bell. Now Jim James Conner, can we

772
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: get back? Well, I was just gonna say, that's a

773
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: great June plan. And we hear this ald and then

774
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: once the game start to coach says, my jobs on

775
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: the line. I'm playing my best player. By the way, Greg,

776
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: you under sold You gave him credit like this guy could,

777
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: but you undersold it. Four time Pro Bowler, second Team

778
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: All Pro two thousand thirteen. Yeah. I didn't really know

779
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: how to respond because I was saying, Jalen Samuels wasn't

780
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: that good? And then you you hit me with Marcel

781
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: Rosy played fullback but plays a position that is extinct

782
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It was one of the It was

783
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: one of those things like John qun is like a

784
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: seventy four time Pro bowler, right exactly, but he had

785
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: a nice couple of moments. Marcel. Well, there's Kyle Uschek

786
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: and no one else. You're not wrong, all right. I

787
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: know that we've talked about the Cardinals a bunch, But

788
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I thought that there was some interesting new information about

789
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: for me, why they drafted in, increased information, why they

790
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: went after Kyler Murray and made the changes they did

791
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: and didn't have Josh Rose and suddenly learning a new offense,

792
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: and it's because Kyler Murray. And this comes from Larry

793
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald to Steve Wish basically said has been in the

794
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: driver's seat from day one, that he is teaching the offense,

795
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald, to all the other veterans that he

796
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: basically has from the second he stepped in there showed

797
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: total command to the point where the only issue that

798
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: he not that he's been perfect, but the biggest issue

799
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: that he faces is that this offense, which let's stop

800
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: even throw out all the Chip Kelly business because they're

801
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: completely different schemes. It's just that they're both unknown going

802
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: into the first year. But this is a completely different,

803
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: speed based, four wide type deal that's going to force

804
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: defenders to make choices on every play. And the only

805
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: thing that sort of slowed down Kyler Murray so far

806
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: in camp has been that the veterans and other players

807
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: who are not familiar familiar with Cliff Kingsbury's offense have

808
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: been intellectually trying to figure out after the snap what

809
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: to do and where to go. Everyone else is catching

810
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: up to the quarterback, which to me, whether this works

811
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: or not, I have put to bed any concerns about

812
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: the draft choice they made because they found the quarterback

813
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: that is perfect for their system, which is, what do

814
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to do with every position in your offense?

815
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna make this thing work? And Cliff

816
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Kingsbury is not someone that probably would have been given

817
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: a ten your rope to make it work. If it

818
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: has has hiccups along the way, you go and get

819
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: the guy. And so far and athletically they said, he's

820
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: been like amazing to watch as well. This feels like

821
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: a home run. And I'm thinking of our friend Jason Zelmwalt,

822
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: Dan's childhood friend or college friend or adult friend that

823
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: who became our adult friend, a great guy who has

824
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: had to go through a lot of nonsense, just as

825
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: much as us with the Cardinals. And I'll tell you what,

826
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be excited because this team is going

827
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: to be fun to watch, I hope. So I think

828
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: he he might lead all time. Podcast like mentions in

829
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: terms of not just like not part of the been

830
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but he's got to be close, right,

831
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: Bob's in the mix. Spice rack, spice Rack. There's some

832
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: this unnamed softball simone issue. This person. I can't name

833
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: who the person on the softball team is, but alright,

834
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: I want to go one more time around, even if

835
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: you want to throw a double banger in there, just

836
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: too quick. Now, I feel like I've just got a

837
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: bunch of big s c pluses. So you know what

838
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go speed round and just

839
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: say them all rapid fire. There is no more hyped

840
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: player period from the O t A season than David Montgomery,

841
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: the running back for the Bears. We've covered that a

842
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: little bit, but he is. He is number one in

843
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: terms of hype. Marquis Goodwin no longer gonna be playing

844
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: that many snaps. They're having him do less routes. He

845
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: is clearly not going to be a starter anymore. In

846
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Travis Frederick, who is kind of the key

847
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: to that Cowboys offensive line, still has not been on

848
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: the field for team drills at all yet, and he's

849
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: coming back from a shoulder surgery and the Guian bear syndrome,

850
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like that is a major thing to

851
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: watch in training camp. And then Titus Howard, who everyone

852
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: assumed the Texans drafted to be their left tackle or

853
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: right tackle, has played guard throughout training camp. And actually

854
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: one more last one, how about Jarrett Stidham Patriots. Athletic

855
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Beat writer says Stidham looked better in his first couple

856
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: of months than Jimmy g or Jacoby brist Do we

857
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: have another quarterback to up? Jarretts did him their fourth

858
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: round draft? Thank it's an athletic beat writer. What do

859
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: you for the athletic beat writer, he's no Connes? All right,

860
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: let's go up to Western New York. Lashawn McCoy coming

861
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: off his worst season of his career three point two

862
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: yards to carry. Uh, well, here's a great Lashawn McCoy quote.

863
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm the type of guy I thrive off having a

864
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: big name, So when guys come to my team, they're

865
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: curious to see how is Lashawn McCoy. Is he a

866
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: good player? I mean, I'm a dominant player. I think

867
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: that speaks for itself. But I'll be in the same

868
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: role as last year, and I look forward to putting

869
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: some numbers up and bouncing back from that last season.

870
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: His accent. And by the way, you will not have

871
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: the same role because now there's approximately forty seven veteran

872
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks UH or running backs to compete with. Frank gor

873
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: t j yelled in Devin Singletary, uh all on the roster.

874
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: Singletary is the third round pick. He's gonna get some carries.

875
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: We'll see what's happening with that running back position. UH.

876
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: Kicker update the Bears, because they've made the US into

877
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: a you know, I'll wait for the Bears have made

878
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: this a total you know to do it's it's just

879
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: the biggest story around this team is trying to find

880
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: a kicker. Well, it's finally some good news out of camp.

881
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Naggi called on Elliott's small fry and cousin Eddie Pinero

882
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: to try forty yarders. Now they're just moving in closer

883
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: and closer, just looking for a win. It was forty two,

884
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: now it's forty mrs would have meant conditioning work, makes

885
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: practices over and they get started on their precamp break.

886
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: While they nailed both the kicks, Snaggy, it was a

887
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: win for them today. I feel like they've tried to

888
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: do this thing where it's like creates a fun moment

889
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: for the kicker like seven different times, and they finally work.

890
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: They finally it was like a twelve yard field goal.

891
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: I would hate going to work if I were a

892
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: kicker in their organization. And my final nugget is, uh,

893
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: I love trope alerts. I love this time of season

894
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: because you can always find the same story over and over.

895
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: It's mad libs. So let's go trop alert. Two stories

896
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: to her. Gabriel of the Bears sees a quote drastic change,

897
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: and Mitchell Trabsky's confidence. Big trope alert around confidence and

898
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: especially the quarterback position. And one more also the quarterback

899
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. He might be working with Tom House, the

900
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: QB whisperer before training camp. Not even definitely, he might be.

901
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's working with Tom House, he said in l

902
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: A too, so they hang out together? He did, Yeah,

903
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: he asked of of Lamar Jackson, and uh then got

904
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: a some sort of a fist bump that they talked

905
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: about endlessly on NFL Network. It sounds like it, but yes,

906
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: insert young quarterback here to work with Tom House before

907
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: training camp every year book at West Devantie Freeman healthy,

908
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: looking like his old self and no longer his Tevin

909
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: Coleman to contend with for touches. Keep him on your

910
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: radar and fantasy as a bounce back guy him he

911
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: can play another guy carry on Johnson from the lines.

912
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: Theo Riddic no lock to make this roster and they

913
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: want to pass the ball to carry on Johnson more

914
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: this year. He looked phenomenal before his season ending injury

915
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: last year. Another interesting fantasy guy uh Trent Taylor of

916
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, separating from Richie James for the

917
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: slot receiver rule. Trent Taylor is gonna win that job

918
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: because he's a good player. Um Scott Miller of the

919
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Bucks rookie sixth rounder getting some John Brown buzz as

920
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: the new John Brown and Bruce Arians offense. We'll keep

921
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: an eye on that one in the preseason. Smokey Jr.

922
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: Smokey Jr. And the Colts may have the most enviable

923
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: tight end depth in the league. Jack Doyle back on

924
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: the field running routes after surgery. Eric Ebron coming off

925
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: a record setting season for touchdowns in Indianapolis, and mo

926
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: Ali Cox looks like he could be the new the

927
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: next um basketball to tight end star cults are gonna

928
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: be a problem. Close it out, Mark Hey. I thought

929
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: it interesting that in Pittsburgh b reporters who were trying

930
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: to find out what Terrell Austin's role was. Terrell Austin's

931
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: role was as coach there and that he's been hired

932
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: a essentially to be someone that is that deals almost

933
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: essentially with just on field challenges, to help Mike Tomlin

934
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: with challenges, because Tomlin's had some issues with that in

935
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: the past. In Minnesota, Kevin Stefanski, who was almost tired

936
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: by the Browns to do that role that Todd Monkin

937
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: is now in, is now there well also for head coach.

938
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: They say that Kirk Cousins essentially the minute that he

939
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: became the o C last year Kevin Stefanski, the Cousins

940
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: settled down and felt much better. They liked the relationship.

941
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: People can see it. Obviously, Mike Zimmer's very happy because

942
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak is probably running the entire thing like the

943
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: Emperor from Star Wars behind the scenes. And I thought

944
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: this was interesting that they did an interview UM it

945
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: was Tom Pellicero with Stefan Diggs and Adam Thealan and

946
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: Adam Thealan, I love him, both very likable guys, would

947
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: not stop talking. And Stefan Diggs did that thing where

948
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: where there's two people on an interview and Digs is like,

949
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: when am I going to get a chance to talk here?

950
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: And at one point he said one little thing and

951
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: then theland jumped back in with another like two and

952
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: a half minute long comment, and Diggs, who I think

953
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: it is a pretty charismatic do, was like, I'm on

954
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: NFL network. I want my due now. Maybe I read

955
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: the entire thing wrong. If you're listening network, this is

956
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: what we're looking for. I got to find a link

957
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: to that Chris Hair. You remember him. He works for

958
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly, the podcast and I've been on a Good Guy.

959
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: He also worked on our Pick Him show that went

960
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: south after two seasons. But he told me that Gus

961
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: Bradley down a Chargers camp has been talking up linebacker

962
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil out of Notre Dame. And if you think

963
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: I feel like the Chargers linebacker corps in years past,

964
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: not talking about their pass rushers has been an issue,

965
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: it's starting to get deep and that defense has very

966
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: few weaknesses at all. Also another linebacker update in the

967
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: cults system. They could not be any better with Derris

968
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: Leonard out right now linebacker Bobby Okariki if I'm saying

969
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: that right has been dominant so far in camp activities.

970
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: So nice, the rich get richer on that front. And

971
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: the last one I have for you, said Jerry McDonald.

972
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: I know it suddenly feels like a two minute sports update.

973
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Derry McDonald out of the Barry and newsgroups, We're like, Oh,

974
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brownie's gonna fall off a cliff now that he's

975
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: got Derek Carr's just gonna be over. He's just gonna

976
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: be annoying but not good. Said that the best training

977
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: camp performers he's ever seen our quarterback Jeff George and

978
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: running back Darren McFadden, largely because they cannot be hit

979
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: or tackled in these camp practices. But the same goes

980
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: for Antonio brown saying that he's never seen anything like

981
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: it on the field. Cover cover the Raiders for a

982
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: long time. Thank you make man back after this, um,

983
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else? Erica? No, No, I didn't

984
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: think so, a little disappointing. Yeah, way to bring the

985
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: shadow of screeching. No I mean, I can't follow follow Mark.

986
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: That was so good. I'm interested to see a lot

987
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: of the quarterback battles. That's always that's good. Good Dan,

988
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: your hair looks bad today, called for Goo'd like go

989
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: to Vaga football analysis. That is you know how to

990
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: hurt me and you have and it Actually, you're right,

991
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm not using my Redkin product. It's looking good. It's fine.

992
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: It's like this show all right before we go, um,

993
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: it is the final show of the UM school year. Well,

994
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: I caught that a long school year. It started late

995
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: last July's come to close here. You see how they're

996
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: doing this to us. By the way, when we started

997
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: the NFL, there was there's defined boundaries. Now this our

998
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: school year goes from late July to mid June. That's rough,

999
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: and we're by the way, it's not we're in summer

1000
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: school also because it's not like we're going away. So

1001
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: now we'll be back with two shows next week, so yeah,

1002
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: tune in for that. UM. Also, the NFL Media Talent

1003
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Summit is next week and we're gonna try. We can't.

1004
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: This is not a promise, but that means everyone kind

1005
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: of they have everyone fly into Los Angeles and they're

1006
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: this big old meeting with all the suits and and

1007
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: it's like an auditorium. It is kind of like being

1008
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: back in school, a summer school at a swanky Hoholt

1009
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: hotel on on the water here UM, and we play

1010
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: the role of kind of like the you know, the

1011
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: kind of the nerdy, like the creative nerdy guys in

1012
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the back that everyone likes, but not really ultimately a

1013
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: part of the important power, right like when we got

1014
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: they did last year they did something I like those guys,

1015
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, but ultimately not the big movie and shaking

1016
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: last year or something. I don't know if it comes back,

1017
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: but they um organized some type of improv session where

1018
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: they're calling up all different you know, big stars and

1019
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner and Shack and Colleen h we got called

1020
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 1: up to and I'm sure there was some internal monologue

1021
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: and going on with like a Michael Irvin by the

1022
00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: for for one, Like is that basically yeah? So that

1023
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: will probably happen again, will be flooded with those same

1024
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: feelings of insecurity. Dean Sanders did say hello to me,

1025
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: not because he knows who I am, just because I

1026
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: was simply in his way. Excuse me that young buck.

1027
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: All right, before we go, Mark, why don't you um

1028
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: do your thing and take us away with one of

1029
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: your famous Mark Sessler meditations. Take a deep breath in,

1030
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: and as you breathe out, close your eyes and begin

1031
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: to relax, bringing attention to your breath. Let go of

1032
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: your concerns, your day to day worries, and see yourself

1033
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: as a being of light. Traveling now along a beautiful

1034
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: seaside cliff, your feet touching the sandy path below. Now

1035
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: you pause to sit and rest on a calm patch

1036
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: of green grass along the cliff. The air is salty

1037
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and alive, the sea below crashing against the rocks. You

1038
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: feel your troubles flittering away in the ocean air. And

1039
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: then you see a figure approaching down the path, sturdy

1040
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: and strong and caring. And now this figure is kneeling

1041
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: down beside you, smiling, and it is West, in a

1042
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: lush vacation cardigan picked out by Lakisha especially for you

1043
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: to enjoy. West smiles and calmly begins to tell you

1044
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: a wine Dan narrative about the Jerry Tarkanian let U

1045
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: n LV Running Rebels basketball dynasty of the early nineties.

1046
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: Stacy Agman was a key figure. He tells you you

1047
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: feel a sense of enormous piece with West sitting beside you,

1048
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: the feeling of almost being underwater in that ocean below,

1049
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: surrounded by the endless sea. But also you are very wet.

1050
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Your clothes are soaked, annoyingly so. And that is because,

1051
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: from high above, on a cliff way up Erica Tampos

1052
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: has launched a globe sized water balloon into the air,

1053
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: a balloon that landed point blank on your crown chakra.

1054
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: Never trade for Iranian arms, she shouts, never do it.

1055
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: Fell for meditation over