1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Everybody. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, May twenty four. Welcome to the NFL Fantasy 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Football Podcast, where I think we've doubled up on our intros. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: It's me and your Maniam G. Marcus Grant, joined by 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones and the Florio. 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I know this is a football show. 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: I just want to personally thank you and the New 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: York Metropolitans uh for helping the Dodgers who had been 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: on the struggle bus for a while, but you were 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: very generous and gifted them both. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Has a double header on Tuesday, so that was cool. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 3: Look the first one, especially like the second game, they 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: just lost. The first game, they let the lead. They 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: gave up the lead on a bunt single, like to 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: a guy hitting one hundred. The Mets have blown up. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: It's something like six or seven leads something like that, 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: and like eleven day span. They there's bad and then 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: there's creatively finding ways to be bad. 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's what. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: Are they tanking for? Tua. 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's sort of the uh what it's the 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: line from Moneyball. It's like there's the league, there's fifty 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: feet of crap, and then there's us, Like then there's 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: the mess. Uh So anyway, I just I want to 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: thank you for your generosity. If if they wouldn't be 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: they'd be so kind as to give them one more 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: just to you know, finish off the series, I'd be 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: grateful for that too. 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Man, got me all choked up now. 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, we're gonna dive into some rookie ADP numbers via 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: the folks over at Underdog with the Best Ball Drafts 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: very much in full swing, LaQuan. 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: How many Best Ball drafts have you done? So? 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm liking thirty son man, but wow, 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: because I've started like literally a month or two ago, 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: Like I just kind of been going and going and 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: going just to get the idea of, like, worse exactly 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: what we're talking about where some of these rookies are going. 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept I checked the rankings and the ADPs. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: I have not done that many. I probably should step 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: up my game a little bit more, that's all. 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: How many have you done? Florio? 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Uh? Not as many as the qualm, but in double digits? 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Okay? 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: My my toxic habit is I'll be like I'm bored 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: and I'll join like three or four slow drafts at 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: the exact same time, and then like a day later, 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: I get annoyed when I get like four notifications that 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm on the clock and in four different leagues, and 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, why do I do this all the time? 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: And then the cycle starts. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: It always starts at night when you're just on your phone, Like, no, 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: it is a couple of slow drafts. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: It's always there. 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: You're sitting on the couch, you're like half paying attention 57 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: to something on TV, and you're like, oh, let me 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: just do some drafts. 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, that's exactly how it happens. 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, but yeah, we'll dive into some of the 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: rookie ADPs. 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll avoid some of the bigger names. 63 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Marvin Harrison Junior is where he is, but 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: some of the other guys maybe below him, whether or 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: not we like their ADP, if it's too high, too low, 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: or what have you. And I'm gonna borrow from our 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: friends over at the Around the NFL Podcast play a 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: little game of what's more likely with some scenarios that 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: we'll figure out what is more likely to happen this season. 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: But let's start with a little bit of news and 71 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: in Baltimore, Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monkin says, if Derek 72 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: Henry gets three hundred carries in twenty twenty four, quote, we're. 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Having a hell of a year. Okay, I mean Florio. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: It's look, we have seen Derek Henry get three hundred 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: carries before. 76 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: That is certainly nothing that he can't do. But he 77 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: is a little. 78 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: Bit older, you know, last year he started to kind 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: of get banged up a little bit. At what point 80 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: do we worry about Derek Henry getting three hundred carries? 81 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: I think you either need to be worried about it 82 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: now or not at all. Like, there's no like if 83 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: this guy gets more than two hundred and fifty car like, no, 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: if I draft Derrick Henry, I want him to get 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: three hundred carries. The reason I wouldn't I would be 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: fearful of that is because I think a big talent 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: falloff is coming, and then I would be fading him 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: right now. So I don't. I have been worried in 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: the past about heavy workloads and stuff like that, but 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: I've done some digging and there are plenty of running 91 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: backs at this age. Not plenty, but there are a 92 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: good amount who have finishes RB ones with this amount 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: of workload and this amount of age on the wear 94 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: and teared like on the tires. For Derrick Henry, they're 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: all elite, like historic Hall of Fame kind of running backs, 96 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: and that's what Dereck Henry is. So I'm willing to 97 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: bet on the talent and the size and everything holding 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: up for another season here, especially because I think this 99 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: is the first time ever where defenses aren't going to 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: be coming in and saying we need to stop Dereck 101 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: Henry if we want to beat this team. Because Lamar 102 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: Jackson is the reigning MVP, you have to worry about 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: him running, you have to worry about him throwing. So 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: we were stacked boxes more running lanes, and then I'm hoping, 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: please let these two run the option because it's good 106 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: for both of them. But I'm in on Derreck Henry 107 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: in round three right now, and in fact, I have 108 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: him as my RB seven, so he could jump a 109 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: full round and I'd still be in if you want 110 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: a running back in that range now. 111 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, the Lamar Jackson factor does play into 112 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: this pretty heavily. As Florio mentioned, he is the reigning MVP. 113 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: One of the things the kwan we have always seen 114 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: over the years is that he's obviously going to take 115 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: a number of the rushing attempts. I mean, there are 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: multiple reasons we haven't seen a Ravens running back get 117 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: close to three hundred rushing attempts. One is because they've 118 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: had multiple guys there, but one of it is because 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is going to run the football. If if 120 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Derek Henry gets in the neighborhood of three hundred carries 121 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: this year, does that necessarily impact what Lamar Jackson can 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: do and be for about the Ravens and for a fantasy. 123 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: Three hundred is a lot, So yes, And knowing that question, 124 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: I feel as though, like, well, you couldbine all the 125 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: Ravens touches, you know with JK. Dobbins with a Justice 126 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: Hill or even you know, Gus Edwards, like you get 127 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: up there in the two to eighty range of where 128 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 4: they're still getting production. But I think with the constant 129 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: rotation and kind of looks like Lamar putting the team 130 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 4: on his back a lot of times. So I think 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: this will be a very good year where he could 132 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 4: be an efficient runner he's always been. I'm just saying 133 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: it'll be more effective in spots of where he's always 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 4: going to run out of the pocket to extend the plays. 135 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: That's constantly going to be a threat. But I think 136 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: in the red zone, I think some people might be 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: a little worried there. But he's never been like a heavy, 138 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: you know, quarterback finding a way to rush in the 139 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: red zone. I mean, Taysom Hill since twenty eighteen has 140 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: more rushing touchdowns inside the ten than Lamar Jackson. Let's 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: just let that sit for a second. So it's like, 142 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: I feel as though this is just going to make 143 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: this team operate on a completely more efficient cylinder. With 144 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: the running game. You don't have to worry about Lamar 145 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: taking a bunch of pounding because you have Dereck Henry 146 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: for that. Darren Henry gets beat up a little bit, 147 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: then okay, you have Lamar Jackson to run the option, 148 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: like Florio said, but still you have to worry about 149 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: Lamar's overall as well. 150 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 1: Well. I think that's the hope. 151 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: Now. 152 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: I know part of the thinking for Monkin is if 153 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: Henry gets towards that number, it's because we're winning games. 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: It's because we're running the football a lot, and we're 155 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: just trying to grind the clock, which all seems well 156 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: and good, but you know, does that mean necessarily that 157 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: we don't see Lamar throwing the football as much, that 158 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: we don't see him running as much as you mentioned, 159 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: uh Lakwan. 160 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: We know they don't use him near the goal line. 161 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: They never have. They certainly aren't going to now that 162 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: they have Dereck Henry. 163 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: They're not gonna have, you know, this big behemoth back 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: there and be like, hey, Lamar, you want to go 165 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: dive in, let's push push you in the end zone. 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Like it's just not gonna happen. And maybe I'm just 167 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: like overthinking this a little bit, right. It could just 168 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: be that everything's going to be sort of status quo 169 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: and instead of having two guys split, you know, one 170 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty get one hundred and fifty carries each, 171 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: it's just one guy who takes most of it. But 172 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: it was that sort of jumped out at me, by 173 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: the way. I don't know if you saw Lamar's best 174 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: shape of his life. He's dropped some weight and get that. 175 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I get that. Now he's faster now. 176 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: He might be because he has been slower the last 177 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: I think part of it is slower, like, yeah, he yes, 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: he's still Lamar Jackson and he could still run a bunch, 179 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: but like he hasn't put up those twenty nineteen rushing numbers, 180 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: his his top speed has declined a little bit. And 181 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: we've actually seen him get caught from behind now, which 182 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: you never saw back in the day. But I think 183 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: Derek Henry opens up a whole bunch for Lamar Jackson 184 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: as a runner as well, because now if you do 185 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: stack near the line of scrimmage, Lamar could beat you 186 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: out wide and then that's where his speed comes into play. 187 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: And if you're loading up near the line of scrimmage, 188 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: now he can beat you downfield on one on one 189 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: coverage and stuff. So remember like a couple of years ago, 190 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: when Daniel Jones was a top ten quarterback because he 191 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: was running so much. It was largely because teams had 192 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: to decide on the option do we want to try 193 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: to stop Saquon or Daniel Jones? And then it just 194 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: leads to huge running lanes for the quarterbacks. So maybe 195 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: we get Lamar running less, but it could be much 196 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: much more efficient. 197 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: I think maybe that could be. 198 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, some of this also is goes to the 199 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: wide receivers too, Like, can these guys step up and 200 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: perform Kansas A. Flowers build on what he did last year, 201 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Ken Rashat Bateman come around to being the guy we 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: hope he can be. Ken tz Walker step up and 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: be a playmaker in this offense as well. 204 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: That remains to be seen. We can all be optimistic 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: about it. 206 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: In Houston, Demiko Ryans says that Damian Pierce and Joe 207 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Mixon can be a one to two punch for the 208 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Houston Texans. So LaQuan should we upgrade Damian Pierce? So 209 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: should be downgrade Joe Mixon? 210 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: No, just wait on. 211 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: I just feel so bad for Damian Pierce because you 212 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: guys know, I'm a huge fan of him, man, and 213 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: like last year, you know, things were looking good. He 214 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: was out snapping Devin Singletary. He was getting the touches. 215 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: I mean back to back games in that in that 216 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: period before he got in, he had twenty plus carries. So, like, 217 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: you know, the team likes him. You know Dmika Ryans 218 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: always praises him. But I don't think he's gonna leave 219 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: Joe Mixon, even if Joe Mixon is a guy that 220 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: sees less touches this year, I think it's still Joe 221 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: Mixon's backfield. I think Damian Pierce will be utilized a 222 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: lot more on this hybrid kickoff because last season we 223 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: see how explosive he was running back like a seventy 224 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: six yard return, So I think Hey will get a 225 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: lot of his pop on special teams and then he'll 226 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: take someone the breath off of Joe Mixon. But how 227 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm attacking the draft is that Joe Mixon is the 228 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: guy that's likely gonna be up there in the two 229 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty touches range. 230 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: I mean, are you are you down with that florio 231 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: or are you feeling somewhere some other kind of way. 232 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit different, but for a different reason. 233 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: I agree with what Lakwan said. I think this is 234 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon's backfield. I think that Joe Mixon could still 235 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: play at a high level. Last season, he had the 236 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: most percentage of runs go for ten or more yards 237 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen, and he did so with seemed more 238 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: loaded boxes than he has in in those years in 239 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: between those. So now he goes to the Houston where 240 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: one of the best deep ball throwers in the league 241 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: and CJ. Stroud is there. I think that'll help open 242 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: a lot near the line of scrimmage for him. But 243 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm drafting a ton of Damian Pierce right now for 244 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: two reasons. One, I mean, he's going after the top 245 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: two hundred picks, so he's absolutely free. If anything happens 246 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: to Joe Mixon, he will become the workhorse there. But 247 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a great fit for this 248 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Texans run system. We saw his numbers decline greatly when 249 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 3: they changed the OC and kind of became more of 250 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: an outside running team. I keep thinking like, what if 251 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: this guy gets traded in August or something like that, 252 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: Like what if he ends up on Dallas or on 253 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: the Chargers where they run a power heavy run system 254 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: where he would thrive in those systems. So to me, 255 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: I keep throwing like seventeenth, eighteenth round picks on Damian 256 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: Pierce and just crossing my fingers that he ends up 257 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: somewhere else. Because we see running back more than other 258 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: positions kind of change teams in August. 259 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's the lane that he 260 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: fits into right now, because in terms of just you know, 261 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: what he brings to the table, I think Joe Mixon 262 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: can do everything Damian Pierce can, but also catch the 263 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: football a little bit better. I think he's sort of 264 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: a nice fit there. So I think that's probably if 265 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: you're drafting Peers, probably the way to go with it 266 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: at all. Christian Watson says he was hoping to put 267 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: his hamstring injuries behind him. He is working on sort 268 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: of evening out. I guess he had more muscle mass 269 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: kind of in one ham string than the other. He's 270 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: trying to even some things out. I don't know if 271 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: either of you saw this. There was a little bit 272 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: of physical therapist on physical therapist violence on Twitter. 273 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: I did nothing. 274 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: Violence is maybe too strong of a word heat how 275 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: about that? You know, look, there are a lot of 276 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: there are a lot of pts on Twitter who do 277 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: some good work on trying to sort of explain how 278 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,359 Speaker 2: injuries work and try to give you a basic timeline 279 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: of when a guy can return that sort of thing, 280 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: and sort of this this training method and what Watson 281 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: was trying to do. They're kind of some disagreements we'll 282 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: say on Twitter about about you know, guys and their 283 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: suggestions on things. 284 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: Whatever. That's neither here nor there. 285 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Christian Watson though a wide receiver in what is a 286 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: very crowded wide receiver room in Green Bay, I mean, Florida, 287 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: how are you sorting through this this wide receiver room 288 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: for the Packers. 289 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: I love Jayden Reid. I will take him at cost. 290 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: I've seen some people on Twitter like souring on him 291 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: a little bit, but I think he is just the 292 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: type of player that you go into the season generating 293 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: touches for whether it be on the ground, through the air, downfields. 294 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: He could do it all, so I really like him. 295 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: After that, the three Wicks, Watson, and Dobbs are are 296 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: all kind of bunched together. But to me, Dobbs is 297 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: like the safe floor, low stealing kind of player. He's 298 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: the one that I want the least of them all. 299 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: I see the upside case for Wicks, but I'm a 300 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: sucker for explosiveness. So getting Christian Watson at wide receiver 301 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: forty six, even though I know, I know there was 302 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: no chemistry between him and Jordan Love last year it 303 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: was kind of a lost season. I still remember Watson 304 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: breaking sixty yard touchdown runs downfield or catching runs. So 305 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: when I see that upside at wide receiver forty six. 306 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: It's it's hard to pass up. 307 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Are you in? 308 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: I heard a lot of chatter about D'antavian Wicks recently, lakwan, 309 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: are you are you buying any of that? 310 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: I am. I think I'm buying into it just so 311 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: I can avoid the worry about Christian Watson, because I 312 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: love that he's wide receiver forty six. But the problem 313 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: is where he's going in bestball leagues. I need them 314 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: to fall a little bit lower for me to take 315 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: on that risk factor with Christian Watson. So at wide 316 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: receiver sixty one, you can get Wis who showed that 317 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: he could be productive with the opportunities. I mean, you're 318 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: looking at the connection between him and Jordan Love and 319 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: it was just automatic. It wasn't anything that we had 320 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: to worry about. It didn't take time to kind of 321 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: build up. It kind of happened as soon as he 322 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: got on the field and he was able to gain momentum. 323 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: So I'm going to take on a guy that is 324 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: way cheaper than all these guys to where I'm looking 325 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: at Wix when he's entering my roster as a fill 326 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: and a guy that can come in as soon as 327 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 4: Watson goes down He's a guy that you can stash, 328 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: you can put him on your watch list, whatever the 329 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: case may be. But I'd rather take the value on 330 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: a guy that I know can produce when given the opportunity. 331 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: And I don't think Watson's going to fall back into 332 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: a starting role. I think it's going to have to 333 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: be a slow burn to where he's going to have 334 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: to gain that chemistry with Jordan Love. Because the numbers 335 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: that I provided before you can go check out my Twitter, 336 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: the passeray and the completion percentage, Watson able to not 337 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: being able to separate and be able to be in 338 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: the right spot. That's where it becomes down to a 339 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: problem where I can't risk taking Watson in seventh round 340 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: when there's other guys in that round that I kind 341 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: of like better. 342 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I have kind of gone toward I think 343 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: about a sprinkling of all these guys. You know that's 344 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: the right way to do it, I think, right, I 345 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: mean I know it sounds like a cop out, right, 346 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: but because especially in a best ball situation, I think 347 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: I think in redraft, this is going to be an 348 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: incredibly frustrating room to deal with because it will be 349 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: hard to pinpoint on any given a week, who the 350 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: guy is. I think that is the beauty of best balls, 351 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: that you can sort of take shots at all of 352 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: them and theoretically you can be okay there now. Wis 353 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: is the guy who I think everybody sort of loves. 354 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, everybody loves the backup quarterback, right 355 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: and bestball. Everybody loves kind of this secondary or number 356 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: three wide receiver that has a path to getting on 357 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: the field but might not necessarily be there all the time. 358 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: But a guy like Dontavian Wicks does have that upside 359 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: that he can get on the field, he can make 360 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: some plays, and he could eventually get those opportunities, but 361 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: you don't have to necessarily live with him on a 362 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: week two week basis. 363 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I would think that if there's a guy, if for. 364 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: Talking redraft, Jaden Reid is probably still the guy I 365 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: want in a redraft situation. But again, I think there 366 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: will be Jaden Reid weeks. There will be Christian Watson games. 367 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: You know, there may even be the occasional Romeo Dobbs 368 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: game in there, which side note, I remember a couple 369 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: years ago it was like this is it's gonna be 370 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: the Christian Watson Romeo Dobbs show in this offense, and 371 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: now we're talking about like those guys, you know, depending 372 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: on the week, could beat number three and four. 373 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: So I never understood the Romeo Dobbs love. I get 374 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: like Watson, I'm saying, but purely for best ball, but 375 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: like he could go out and get like one hundred 376 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: and fifty and two in a giving game. I don't 377 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: have to figure out when that's gonna be, but I 378 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: get that huge bike week when. 379 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: He does it. Actually, here's the thing I will say. 380 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: I know that Daniel Jeremiah, who obviously we all know 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: and love and trust immensely, he really thought Dobbs could 382 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: be a good fit in the Packer offense, and I 383 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: think he was. And when he first hit, I mean, 384 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: he had a really good start to his rookie season, 385 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: sort of faded a little bit late, and I think, 386 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: you know, I certainly bought in, you know, and they 387 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: just they have done a very good job in scouting 388 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: wide receivers in Green Bay over the last few years, 389 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: and so you know, they're in a good spot because 390 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: they've got a lot of guys. They don't really care 391 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: about our fantasy teams, but for their actual team. It's 392 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: a really good spot for them to be in offensively 393 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: right now. 394 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: Jordan Love is the winner that it comes down to. 395 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: So draft Jordan Love. 396 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's the that's the short answer to 397 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: this whole thing. Just draft Jordan Love and be done 398 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: with it. In Dallas, Brandon Cooks predicts this will be 399 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: a breakout year for Jalen Tolbert as the wide receiver 400 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: three in Dallas. We know Ceede Lamb is the wide 401 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: receiver one, Cooks is, there's the wide receiver two. It's 402 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: sort of up in the air for a wide receiver 403 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: three right now. I mean, Lakwan, is there any value 404 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: beyond those top two guys? Also, when you factor in uh, 405 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: you know they've got tight ends they have to work in. 406 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: You Thinkil Elliott is back. Do we care about the 407 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver three in Dallas? Uh? 408 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: No, I don't, but think he would be the third option. 409 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: To be honest, I think he's one of those guys 410 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: like if you're a fan of him, you want to 411 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: see him do really good. I mean like he falls 412 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: in the category of like deeper leagues where you stash him. 413 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 4: I mean, like the Trey Palmers of the world the 414 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 4: two two at wells. You know, you really want them 415 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: to do well and fit as that wide receiver three. 416 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: But if they're on an offense that really has a 417 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: tight end or running back as the third second option 418 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: sometimes where you know the wide receiver three is just 419 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: there as a decoy most of the time. So I 420 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: don't advise people to go out there and draft him 421 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: and expect weekly production out of him. But if you're 422 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: in the deeper league, take take a shot on him. 423 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: You know, I mean Ken Dak Prescott support all these 424 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: pass catchers on a consistent basis, for. 425 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: Consistent if they were good. Yes, we've seen him do 426 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: it with Ceedee lamb Amari Cooper and Michael Gallup that 427 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: one year. But Jalen Tolbert's been in the NFL for 428 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: two years. He is two hundred and eighty yards and 429 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: two touchdowns. There. The list of wide receivers to have 430 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: that few production in two years in the NFL and 431 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: going to succeed is extremely, extremely low. Plus, I'm not 432 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: even that interested in Brandon Cook's I mean three games 433 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: last year with more than fifty yards, Like I know, 434 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: he had one hundred and seventy two yards game and 435 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 3: that one is like, that's why you draft Brandon Cooks 436 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: and best Ball and the upside for him to have 437 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: those huge weeks is still there with Dak, but like, 438 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: I'm not that interested because, yeah, I think the number 439 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: two target is going to be Ferguson, So Lamby is 440 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 3: going to get eleven targets a game. Again, so Cooks 441 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: is that boom or bust option. And then after that 442 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: it's maybe real life pieces they could contribute, but not 443 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: for fantasy. 444 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I don't know that. 445 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Again, it's the kind of thing if you do enough 446 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: best Ball drafts, you probably will take a swing at 447 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: one of those guys. But I think you know, that's 448 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: that's gonna be pretty tough. And I'll say that on 449 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: a regular basis for sure. All right, let's get into 450 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: some of these rookie ADPs. Will take a quick break, 451 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: come back in the dive into some higher or lower 452 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: that's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So here 453 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: we are very much in the thick of Best Ball 454 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: draft see. And you know, I think it's always interesting 455 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: to sort of look at some of the first year 456 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: players because especially if you are drafting this early or 457 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: even if you started drafting a month ago. You want 458 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: to plant your flag on some of the rookies, right, 459 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: You want to say that you are ahead of the curve, 460 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: and especially because generally speaking, you can probably get a 461 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: better value on some of these guys the earlier you're 462 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: drafting them, before the hype really truly builds and everybody 463 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: gets in and starts drafting them. Now, look, we know 464 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: some of the guys at the top. You know, we 465 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: know Marvin Harrison is going to go really really early. 466 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm in a mock draft. I think I took him 467 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: with the second pick of the second round in a 468 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: twelve team mock draft. You know Romo Dunes is going 469 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: to go fairly high. You know we'll get in, you know, 470 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: we we'll avoid some of those guys just because I 471 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: think this sort of is what it is. But there 472 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: are a handful of other names that I was sort 473 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: of interested in getting your opinions on, So Florida, I'll 474 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: start with you here on Malik Neighbors. Twenty nine point 475 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: one is the average draft position for him. He is 476 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: the why receiver twenty. The upside on him is that 477 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: he looks like the wide receiver one in New York. 478 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: The downside for him is that he's the wide receiver 479 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: one in New York. And that's mind you, the Giants, 480 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: not the Jets. It's Daniel Jones, not Aaron Rodgers. So 481 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: a top thirty pick from Elague Neighbors? Are you okay 482 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: with that? Is that too high or too low? 483 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 3: I think it's too high and I love the league neighbors. 484 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: I ranked him as my wide receiver one coming into 485 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: the NFL Draft, ahead of Marvin Harrison Junior. And I 486 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: think he can win. And the reason he was number 487 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 3: one for me is because I think he can win 488 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: in every single way you want a player to win. 489 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: He could win downfield, he could win in the intermediate area. 490 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: He could take a pass that's behind the line of 491 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: scrimmage and take at the distance. He is that electric 492 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: and he could just do everything on the football field. 493 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: I also really do like him because I think Brian 494 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: Dable is a better offensive mind than he gets credit 495 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: for it. I think people maybe have forgotten that after 496 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: this season the Giants had last year. But he's gonna 497 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: draw ten targets per game. I believe for this kid, 498 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: the only thing is the names that you're taking that 499 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: he's going over right now, DeVonta Smith is one of 500 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: the most proven wide receivers. I like Michael Pittman Junior more, 501 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup I can never quit dk Metcalf I have 502 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: ranked higher. In my first ranking go around, I had 503 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: him at wide receiver twenty eight, But even there, there's 504 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: like three or four wide receivers directly after him that 505 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, if you made a good case for them 506 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: over neighbors, I wouldn't argue. So I like him a 507 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: lot more if you could get him as a wide 508 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: receiver three than having to pay up and get him 509 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: as a two. 510 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: How exactly is he going over some of those names, Lakwan, 511 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Somebody make a case for me. 512 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: I think it's it. 513 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 3: Has to be. 514 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: You're still on the post draft high where you know 515 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: you're looking at him as the certified wide receiver one 516 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: of the class. So a lot of people are going 517 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: to his besketball drafts still on that high thinking that, hey, 518 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 4: he's gonna see over one hundred targ Yes, that is true, 519 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: but there's been other players and other examples of previous 520 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: years that one hundred targets ain't enough. A thousand yards 521 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 4: ain't enough. A twenty percent target share ain't enough. When 522 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: you're capped at like twelve to thirteen Fantasy points per game. 523 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: That doesn't warrant you to be going in the third 524 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: round over some of these proven talents. I'd rather take 525 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: a Jaylen Watto or Devonte Smith, like Florio was saying. 526 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: These guys are proven talent that have good quarterback play 527 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: or even elite quarterback play. Now we're looking at New York. 528 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: We got Daniel Jones for turning back from multiple injuries, 529 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: and we don't even know if he's going to be 530 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: ready to go week won with the backup as Drew Locke. 531 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: So it doesn't scream to me efficient targets. It doesn't 532 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: screen to me touchdown scoring opportunities. So in that third round, 533 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: it's pretty nasty work if you ask me. 534 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: And I think it just comes down to the basic 535 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: question that we always have to ask ourselves. Do you 536 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: want the number one target in a mediocre to bad 537 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: offense versus the number two target in a good to 538 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: great offense. And I think that's sort of where we're 539 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: getting with I mean Devinta Smith. I guess it is 540 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: technically the number two but he and A. J. Brown 541 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: are sort of one A and one B in Philadelphia. 542 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: Batman Skinny Batman, what is it a. 543 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Batman and skinny Bolt? Yeah man. Uh, you know, and even. 544 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: Hooper Cup could be a water their top target on 545 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: their team, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, 546 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: Jalen Wattle, he's the number two target behind Tyreek Hill. 547 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: But we've seen the passing volume and we've seen that 548 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: that Tua can support both of those guys. You know, 549 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: it's we're still not sold on on Janiel Doones and 550 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: how much he can uh starting to roll off, it's 551 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: starting to roll off the tongue. I'm a little bit 552 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 2: scared that I'm gonna say that for real, like on 553 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: Fantasy Live or something this year, Like. 554 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: I, oh, it's gonna happen like week two. 555 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: I know, I really shouldn't get so comfortable with it 556 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: because it's just starting to it's just starting to just 557 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: roll out really easily now. 558 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Anyway. I'm but I think I'm with you guys. 559 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: Like top thirty pick feels like a little bit too 560 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: much for Molik Neighbors. It just feels like a flag plant, uh, 561 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: for a guy that that doesn't necessarily have the path 562 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: to that level. 563 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Of production in New York. 564 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in Jacksonville, Brian Thomas seventy four point six is 565 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: the ADP wide receiver forty two. Lakwan, I know we 566 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: tried not to get too hyped over OTA reports, but man, 567 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: the OTA reports for Brian Thomas are really good down there. 568 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: Right now, I find myself, I find myself getting a 569 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: little bit more excited about him again. Top seventy five 570 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: pick for Brian Thomas. Higher or lower than that. 571 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: I'm scared to say, but it might be higher by 572 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: the time we get to August, because these CAMP reports 573 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: are really really good, like what you're saying, and on 574 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: top of that, we're getting video of it. So it's like, oh, man, 575 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 4: like I had to move Trevor Lawrence up in my rankings. 576 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 4: I know, before months ago, I've said he's a fantasy bust, 577 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: but this might be the year that we might see 578 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence unlocked. I mean, Brian Thomas is out there, 579 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: he's stretching the field. He's going to be a difference maker. 580 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: So I'm okay with taking him in the seventh round 581 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: of where he's going at in Best ball leagues right. 582 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Now, I mean Floya, can he compete target wise with 583 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: Christian Kirk. I mean, I think he compete with Gabe Davis, 584 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: But I mean can he get enough targets to sort 585 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: of push Christian Kirk in that offense? 586 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. And I think at best 587 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: he's their third target because I think he'll be behind 588 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: Evan Ingram as well, and then he's battling it out 589 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: with Gabe Davis for those downfield targets because that is 590 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: one area where Gabe Davis plays well. Plus, Gabe Davis 591 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 3: is a good run blocker. And I know we don't 592 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: care about that for fantasy, but it helps you on 593 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: the field. It's why he played more snaps than any 594 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: Bills wide receiver in his tenure, because he's so good 595 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: at that area that you just leave him out there 596 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: in two wide receiver sets three wide receiver sets. So 597 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas could be the wide receiver three on his 598 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: own team. Maybe he outproduces Gabe Davis. I think he will, 599 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: but snaps an opportunity wise, he could be third. I 600 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: see the appeal. I will also say I didn't love 601 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior as a prospect as much as everyone 602 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: else everyone had him like as the consensus fourth wide receiver. 603 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: I had him a little lower than that, but like 604 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: he's going he's going ahead of Deontay Johnson. To me, 605 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: that's a huge mistake. Rashid Rice. He's only going ahead 606 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 3: of because we don't know the legal issues. Then there's 607 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: a lot of receivers in that range that I'm like, 608 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: are just like Brian Thomas. So but you could get 609 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: a little bit later. So I see the appeal and 610 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: I see the upside, but I don't anticipate myself drafting 611 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: him a whole bunch. 612 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: A couple things of that too. 613 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: One, I think I think you're gonna start to see 614 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson's adp go up a little bit because it 615 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: just feels like it feels like in the last couple 616 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: of weeks, everybody has come to this realization that, hey man, 617 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: the Panthers might not suck as much this year, right 618 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: that that all of a sudden, everybody's looking around at 619 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: Bryce Young and being like, hey man, this dude's kind 620 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: of a value, and Deontay Johnson's hey man, this dude's 621 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: kind of a value. I'm I think you're gonna see 622 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: those ADPs go up, so maybe that helps Thomas a 623 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: little bit. 624 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. 625 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: I'm still I'm not confident in Rashi Rice and it 626 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the legal system at all. 627 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: I'll leave it there. 628 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk about him a little bit later in the show, 629 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: so I won't get into it too much, but I 630 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: have my concerns. 631 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: We'll say that. 632 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: I excent maybe I'm being sucked in by the camp reports. 633 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm okay with Jonathan, with Brian Thomas. Rather at where 634 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: he is wide receiver forty two, I will take the 635 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: swinging at him. 636 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, I could be wrong. 637 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: We get to know August and I look a little 638 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: bit silly, but for now I'm sort of buying in 639 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: on this one. Jonathan Brooks first running back drafted in 640 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. He's the running back twenty four right now. 641 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: Eighty eight point three is the ADP Florio. I suspect 642 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: that if we get reports that he's healthy and ready 643 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: to go earlier in the season, that ADP may go 644 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: up even higher. But for now, just inside the top ninety. 645 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: Are you okay with that? 646 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 647 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: I think it's like just right his ADP because you 648 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: look at the running backs. He's going right behind right 649 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: now it's Demere White, DeAndre Swift, Najie Harris, and then 650 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: right ahead it's Jalen Warren, Zach Mahl's, Tony Poller, James Connor. 651 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: I could make an argument for him to be higher 652 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: or to be lower. It all comes down to, I 653 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: think the health, and we're gonna find out as camp 654 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: goes on. Not only is he going to be ready 655 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: to suit up early on in the season, but is 656 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: he looking like himself Because not only does it take 657 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: usually a first year to get that full burst back 658 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: and that explosion back from the torn acl, but it 659 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: also takes a couple of weeks for these running backs 660 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: to trust it fully again, like Breece Hall in September 661 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: was a very different running back than Breece Hall the 662 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: rest of the year. So to me, RB twenty four 663 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: feels appropriate and it could go up a few spots. 664 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: I think it also could drop a solid five to 665 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: six spots or something like that, and depending all on 666 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: the reports we get. 667 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: In August, lakwanahealthy Jonathan Brooks is the RB one there 668 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Carolina right he beats Chuba Hubbard. 669 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: It's Miles Sanders when he's healthy. 670 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: Uh, yes, one hundred percent. I mean we all seen 671 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: the tape, you know, before this guy went down went injury, 672 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: and I think, you know, you just have to have 673 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: your expectations in order when you're drafting a guy like Brooks, 674 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: like just have the understanding that it might be a 675 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: slow burn. I don't see him really making noise until 676 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: probably October. But I think Trouba Harber he still gets 677 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: the first licks because he was really productive for that 678 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 4: backfield last year. A lot of people haven't really looked 679 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: at his numbers and noticed that, but I think he 680 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: still will be involved this wall very early on. So 681 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 4: where you're getting him at running back twenty four, that's 682 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: like in the seventh eighth round range, Like, hey, why 683 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: not take a shot on him in the you know, 684 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: RB three or before wherever you're at in your roster 685 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: where just have your expectations in order when you're taking him. 686 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: But I think he's absolutely the RB one by the 687 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 4: time this season wraps up. 688 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: And I think this is where it's important to point 689 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: out these are best ball ADPs and so yeah, you 690 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: are sort of hoping for these guys to hit later 691 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: in the season, and so I think for a guy 692 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: like Jonathan Brooks especially, the expectation is by the time 693 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: we get to December that he is back on the field, 694 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: he is getting a good number of snaps, and that 695 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: he has sort of pushed, you know, certainly Sanders aside 696 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: and is really gunning for that that RB one job 697 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: in Carolina. 698 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: So that optimism, I think has something to do with it. 699 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: Blake Korum RB thirty nine one twenty four point eight 700 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: is the ADP. 701 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Lakwan, we've sort of talked about this. 702 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: With Kyen Williams not being one hundred percent healthy, I 703 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: would assume that number is continuing to climb. You, being 704 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: our resident rams Homer here, how do you feel about 705 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: Korum just inside the top one twenty five? 706 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: I'm excited, man. I love where he's going in drafts 707 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: because a lot of people are still kind of sleeping 708 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 4: on him. But I feel as though, you know, once 709 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: the summer comes around and we're still hearing reports about 710 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: Kiren's health, him sitting out of practice, et cetera, it's 711 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: just only going to rise. So jump on the value now. 712 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: And I really feel as though, you know, this guy 713 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: is going to be such a huge red zone threat, 714 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: So I'll find the end zone more time than not 715 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: last season. You know what his college years, And I 716 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: really feel as though you're going into an offense that's 717 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: going to be a high power, healthy offense going into 718 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: the season with Cooper cub Puka Nakua and a healthy 719 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. So the opportunity for him is on the table. 720 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: And I did a stat yesterday with Kyrine Williams that 721 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 4: he was the only running back since twenty seventeen to 722 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: be able to have ten touches between each halves. And 723 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: that's Todd Gurley the other guy who's been able to 724 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: do that as a RAM. So it's like his involvement 725 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: throughout the game is crucial to where he's going to 726 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: get these touches. Blake Koran, that is on the table 727 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: for him. If Kyron what's going to miss time. I 728 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: don't want to say he's going to come in and 729 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: fall in day one and just go out the gate 730 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 4: and take his job. But I really feel as though 731 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 4: to be in this opportunity to be able to develop 732 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: and get the reps. This is awesome for Blake Korn 733 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: to be in this offense with Sean McVay. 734 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: You mentioned Todd Gurley, and I think his name always 735 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: sort of applies when we talk about Rams running backs 736 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: and Sean McVay because Vegas. 737 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Sort of said pouring out. 738 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: McVeigh has said repeatedly that he is hesitant to use 739 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: a guy similar to what he did with Girley, that 740 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to just overwork one guy. Now, it's 741 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: sort of happened last year with Kyrien Williams, that you know, 742 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: he was just out playing everybody else that we're really 743 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: no other options. That McVeigh was super in love with. 744 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: That being said Florio. I mean, look, it's one thing 745 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: to talk about Blake Corum in the context of Williams 746 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: and a foot injury. It's another thing just to talk 747 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: about Blake Coorum the player in general. Could he carve 748 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: out a role even with a healthy Kien Williams despite 749 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: how well Williams played last year. 750 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: I think so, because he's a very similar style player 751 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: to Kien Williams. And I think that's partially why we 752 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: didn't see Kien Williams leave the field last year. It 753 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, we take this guy off. We're getting 754 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 3: significantly worse production at that position, so we're just gonna 755 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: play him eighty to ninety percent of the snaps and 756 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: give him the bulk of all the work. And one 757 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: thing we've seen teams do in recent years, rather than 758 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: pull a running back off for a couple of plays 759 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: and mix and match guys, It'll be like, Okay, this 760 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: whole drive is one running back, this whole drive is 761 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 3: another running back. And we like to see teams often 762 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: rotated two drives for the starter and then a the 763 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: third drive goes to the backup. I could see Blake 764 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: Ran playing in that role. And you look at where 765 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: he's going in drafts. Right now, he's going right behind 766 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: the Washington running backs. You got Taj Spears and Chase 767 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: Brown ahead of him. Right behind him are both Cowboys 768 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: running backs Jerome Ford Zach Charboney. So to me, those 769 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: are all RB twos in their own offense or situations 770 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: where we don't know who the lead running back is 771 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: gonna be, like in Dallas something like that. But it's 772 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: a very appropriate group, I think, because all of these guys, 773 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: whether injury or something like that happen, could get a 774 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 3: huge boost in value. So if you're doing a lot 775 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 3: of best ball drafts, this is a great area of 776 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: the draft to kind of like, Okay, one draft, I'm 777 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 3: gonna take this guy. Next draft, I'm gonna take this guy. 778 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 3: But I do really like Blake Korum, and he's someone 779 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: at cost that I have been targeting in my drafts. 780 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been. I've been targeting him pretty much at cost. 781 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: I think I will admit I had a little more 782 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: interest in him hearing the reports on Kyen, but Alsos 783 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: are keeping in mind that this could just be precautionary 784 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: with the rams where they're just kind of keeping Kyen 785 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: Williams out of action for now because it's it's May. Yeah, 786 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, and it's May, and there's no need to 787 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: push him right now, you know, when he's he's a 788 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: little bit banged up, so it could be. But by 789 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: the time we get to camp everything's okay. But I 790 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: don't I still don't feel bad. I don't think I'll 791 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: be too overextended on Blake Korum on any of my rosters. 792 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: There last one, this one to me, was super interesting. 793 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: Jermane Burton one fifty two point one wide receiver seventy 794 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: I mean Florio, Yes, I know we always talk about 795 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: off field concerns, but like he got drafted he's on 796 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: a team, he's on a roster. Everybody loves the talent. 797 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: I am so prize that he's going outside the top 798 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: one fifty. Are you surprised he's going outside the top 799 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 2: one fifty, Yes, but it. 800 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 3: Is a pure buying opportunity. He's actually my most drafted 801 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: wide receiver right now. And I was a little bit 802 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: lower on him than some other people as a prospect. 803 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: I still really liked him. I thought he could win downfield, 804 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: he could move all over the field and such, but 805 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: the landing spot, I was like, I don't care about 806 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 3: any of that other stuff anymore. He's a top three 807 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: wide receiver on a team that should have an elite 808 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: offense with an elite quarterback that uses a ton of 809 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: three wide receiver sets. Plus te Higgins is on the 810 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: franchise tag right now. And something that I talk about 811 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: a lot is like, look, football's a very physical, violent game. 812 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 3: We know that these guys are always out there playing 813 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: through injuries. When we get into the middle to later 814 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: part of the seasons, We've seen lots of players And 815 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: I don't want to get in the head of T 816 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: Higgins and say anything, but like, we've seen players not 817 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: push themselves through injuries when they're on a contract year, 818 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: because because why would they risk all of that without 819 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: the financial security. So if anything happens to either of 820 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 3: those other two wide receivers, he now becomes a top 821 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 3: two wide receiver for Joe Burrow, and especially in best ball. 822 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: I do think he'll be inconsistent at least early on, 823 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 3: but the big playability is so there, and I think 824 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 3: we could see with Tyler Boyd gone, we could see 825 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 3: more rotation, with Burton going in the slot at times 826 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: and Chase going in the slot at times. So yeah, 827 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 3: wide receiver seventy outside the top one fifty, It's an 828 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: auto draft for me right now. 829 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean, look, Lakwan, we have seen the Bengals use 830 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 2: three wide receiver sets. We know what a healthy Joe 831 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 2: Burrow can do. I is there a reason he's going 832 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to wrap my head around why 833 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: this is happening. I don't know if you have any 834 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: logical explanation for why no one is clicking on Jermaine 835 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: Burton right now. 836 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 4: I don't, because I think a lot of people are 837 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 4: looking at his draft capital and kind of putting into 838 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 4: like he might be a little trouble maker's very mouthfee, 839 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 4: but you know there there's a lot that comes with 840 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 4: that bark. There's some bite to that man. He's a 841 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: very talented wide receiver, so I'm not quite sure why 842 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: he's going so late. So I feel as though he 843 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 4: just jump on the value now and kind of wait 844 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 4: for his opportunity. Because we're looking at T Higgins, like 845 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: we explained, he's on the contract year, he'd even signed 846 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 4: the franchise Taga didn't show up to OTAs. We don't 847 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen. I mean, the Bengals have given 848 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: now three franchise tags in the last ten years. None 849 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: of them signed learn long term. So Florio's point, he 850 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: was banged up last season, if he gets banged up 851 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: this season, why would he push itself through this contract 852 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: year when he could just capitalize on the bag. It's 853 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 4: all that happened with Alan Robinson with the Bears when 854 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: he signed with the Rams, which was a bad contract, 855 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 4: but a whole different story, a whole different chapter. But 856 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: I feel as though T Higgins man, he will be 857 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 4: still the T Higgins that we know in love with 858 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: the healthy Joe Burrow is just gonna have to take 859 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: some time and patience to get Jermaine Burton to basically 860 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 4: develop and get the reps in be able to perform. 861 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: So for fantasy this year, I'm gonna jump on the value. 862 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: If he hits, he hits. If he doesn't, he doesn't. 863 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to year two for Burton. 864 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, certainly at one fifty one fifty two, it's not 865 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: much of a risk pretty much. 866 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 3: He doesn't hit out whatever. 867 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 2: Maybe not anything, but you know, if it does, if 868 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: it does turn out to be something, then you're sitting 869 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: on the mother of all values. 870 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: At this point, he's. 871 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 4: He's this year's Pooka. 872 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: I'll say it. I don't know, i'll say it. I'll 873 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: say it. 874 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: No one is this year's Pooka, right, I think that's No. 875 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: One's this year's Pooka. There's no there's no Pooka. But 876 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: like Pooka. 877 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 3: I actually looked. He's Burton is my number two most 878 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 3: drafted wide receiver. I think number one could be this 879 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: year's pooka. It's Malachai Corley. 880 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have Malakai. Those are my two 881 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 4: top rookie exposures right now in Best Ball. 882 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: All right, all right, By the way, he's talking about 883 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: the draft capital for for Jermaine Burton. It ain't going 884 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: to be more than anybody thought, you know. I mean yeah, 885 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: before all the other stuff happened, the other news came out, 886 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: he was potentially a Day one pick. Then it was like, 887 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: well he may go Day three, who knows, and then 888 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: he ends up going it just it ended up working 889 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: out better than I think a lot. 890 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: Of people anticipated for Jamaine Burton. 891 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: Anyway, take one more break, come back, play a little 892 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: bit of what's more likely? Kind of an either or situation. 893 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: That's next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All apologies 894 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: to our friends at the ATM podcast. They love to 895 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: play the game what's more likely, so I figured I 896 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 2: would borrow that for us. We're a situation for scenarios here. 897 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: What do you guys think is more likely? Lakwan started 898 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: with you here, more likely to be a top ten 899 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: fantasy quarterback this year? 900 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Justin Herbert. 901 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: Oh that's tough because Baker with Bacon last year he 902 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 4: was cooking man. He was damn their top ten as 903 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 4: well in points game. 904 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have Dave Canalis anymore. 905 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 4: I know that's the thing. And then you gotta look 906 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: at the pass volume for Justin Herbert as well. So 907 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm a cop out. 908 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Justin Herbert, all right, your answer, you're Floria. 909 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: I think it's Justin Herbert and Baker. Last year was 910 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: the QB ten and total points and Herbert was QB seventeen. 911 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: But in points per game it flipped, and that's what 912 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: I care more about. Like after the season ends, it's like, okay, 913 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 3: on a per game basis, Baker was QB seventeen in 914 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: his career year and now he loses his OC. Like 915 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 3: you said, so, I look, his new OC comes from 916 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 3: the mcvagree. I know there's a lot of success there, 917 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 3: but he's also very, very unproven and it's going to 918 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: be another new offense that Baker has to learn. I 919 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: feel like Baker has never had the same OC for 920 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 3: more than two seasons in a row, which is kind 921 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: of crazy. But even with all the negative things with 922 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, I'll take him. 923 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Baker, Yes he did lose Dave Canalis, 924 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: Yes he has a new offense, look learning offensive scheme 925 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: for Baker. Like that's like whatever at this point, right, 926 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: Like it's whatever, man like it's just old hat, that's 927 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: just what he does. He has Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, 928 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert right now we're talking about we're talking about 929 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: Dad McConkie, And look, Lad McConkie is a very talented player. 930 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 2: I don't think Lad McConkie should be your wide receiver 931 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: one in his rookie year while we're still trying to 932 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: figure out what Quintin Johnston can be. Uh, you know 933 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: who Josh Palmer is with a head coach and an 934 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator that wants to run the football. So I'm 935 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: gonna take Baker as more likely to finish as a 936 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: top ten fantasy quarterback this year. Florida more likely to 937 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: finish as the RB one this year. Christian McCaffrey ho hum, 938 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: same as it ever was, or Breice Hall. 939 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: You could give me literally any running back versus Christian McCaffrey, 940 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 3: and it's Christian McCaffrey. One thing that Marcus, you know, 941 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 3: I talk about a lot, is like when, especially in 942 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 3: the first round of my drafts, when I'm looking at 943 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 3: who to take first, I think of it as like 944 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 3: who has the highest percentage odd of being top five 945 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 3: RB one, whatever, and Christian McCaffrey leads in all of that. 946 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 3: I mean, not only did he finish over one hundred 947 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: points better than any other running back last year, which 948 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: RB two was Breeze Hall, and you could say, yeah, 949 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: Breece Hall had to slow start, Okay, he still played 950 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: an extra game than CMC and finished over one hundred 951 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 3: points behind him last year. And that's the thing that 952 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: the receiving numbers. That the fact that the forty nine 953 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,240 Speaker 3: ers are going to be one of the best offenses 954 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: in football again and gave him so many scoring opportunities. 955 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 3: It's CMC and then it's everyone else. 956 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: You on board with that. 957 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you can't bet against CMC man one on one. 958 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: All right, I mean yeah, I'll probably make it unanimous. 959 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: The reason I threw this in here, though, is just 960 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 2: the stat from our research team that it's been a 961 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: while since someone has finished back to back as the 962 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 2: RB one. Clinton Portance I believe right that, I think 963 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 2: Clinton ports was the one. Also, the fact that it's 964 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: very rare that the first running back drafted, the guy 965 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: with the highest ADP at the running back position finishes 966 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: as the RB one. That's also not a thing that 967 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: happens very often, so just sort of taking that into account. 968 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: But why do you take a wide receiver in round one? 969 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean last year they didn't work out either. Last 970 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: year Round one generally stunk except for McCaffrey. He was 971 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 2: like the only guy in round one that Chase. 972 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: Everybody was just gonna like, But yeah, I mean more likely, Yeah, 973 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: probably is probably Christian McCaffrey. 974 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, el cue more likely to have a year 975 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 2: or two breakout, Jackson Smith in JIGBA or Michael Wilson. 976 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 4: Now hearing this and reading it, I almost went Michael Wilson. 977 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna I'm gonna ump on the JSN train. 978 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump on the train just based on his 979 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: ability to create after to catch. So I see how 980 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 4: they're trying to deploy him, how to utilize him, and 981 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 4: got a new oc over there where I feel as 982 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 4: though they might figure out some way to properly to 983 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 4: get him involved. Because when I was looking at Yak 984 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 4: yards from you know, targets within the five yard scrimmage, 985 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 4: he was actually third in yards out there to catch, 986 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 4: behind Chase and another notable wide receiver forgetting right now. 987 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 4: But to be the top three, that's pretty impressive of 988 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 4: like being able to get the yards out there to 989 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 4: catch on screen passes. So he has the ability to stretch, 990 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: you know, the field and be able to be utilized 991 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 4: in the middle field. So hopefully we can get more 992 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 4: out of him. Michael Wilson, you have Marvin Harrison Junior 993 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 4: over there. Man, I think it's gonna be a hot 994 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 4: commodity over there when it comes to the target share. 995 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 4: So I'll go with JSN. 996 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: I know, Florida, I know how you feel about Michael Wilson. 997 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: Are you going to take him over JSN? 998 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: Here? 999 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 3: No, Both of these guys are at worst, or maybe 1000 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: at best, you could say, in Wilson's case, the third 1001 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 3: target on their team because McBride is going to get 1002 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 3: more targets than Wilson as well. Wilson struggles to stay healthy. 1003 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 3: That was his big thing in college. But JSN was 1004 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 3: my wide receiver one in that class, and I still 1005 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: firmly believe in his talent. He's awesome. He just the 1006 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: usage was awful last year and it could be again 1007 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 3: this year. But Lockett will be thirty two in September. 1008 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: That's he's approaching decline period. And I think Jaysn was 1009 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: drafted not for last season, but for this year and 1010 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 3: beyond to kind of take over. So yeah, I think 1011 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 3: Jaysn is a good value at where he's going right. 1012 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 2: Now New OC as well in Seattle, and maybe a 1013 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 2: guy who wants to use more three wide receiver sets 1014 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: That wasn't something they did a lot of last year 1015 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. So I'm gonna go Jayson as well. Yeah, 1016 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm curious about Michael Wilson. I mean I liked him 1017 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: kind of as a deep sleeper last year, but yeah, 1018 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 2: is there enough volume there, which there may be with 1019 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: Kyler Wurry to sustain three pass catchers Because Floria, you 1020 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 2: hit it, it's Harrison, then it's Trey McBride, and then 1021 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: maybe it's Michael Wilson last one. Floria more likely to 1022 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 2: fall off in year two or she Rice or Jaden Reid. 1023 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 2: After we spent a lot of time talking about the 1024 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 2: Packers wide receivers, I. 1025 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 3: Really want to hear your reasoning. But for me, I 1026 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: think most likely to fall off as Rashi Rice because 1027 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: the legal stuff. If he's not there to start the year. 1028 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 3: This is a more crowded and better talented wide receiver 1029 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: room than it's been and now the last two years 1030 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 3: the offense has been built off of yak Now, I 1031 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 3: think we're gonna see the deep ball back for Mahomes 1032 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 3: and the Chiefs with Marquis Brown and Xavier Worthy there, 1033 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: plus there's Travis Kelcey. There's a lot of target comp 1034 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 3: We've kind of said that for the Packers, but I 1035 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 3: do think Reed will be the top target and they'll 1036 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 3: generate touches for him and stuff. I like both of them. 1037 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them necessarily falls off. 1038 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 3: But if I have to pick, I think Rachi Rice. 1039 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: Is more likely. All Right, I hear you picked on Lakwan. 1040 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Rice. I'm weighing the air your reason. 1041 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm going right, I'm legitimately worried about 1042 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: Rashie Rice this year one because yes, they go out 1043 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: and they get Marquise Brown, they go out and they 1044 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 2: draft Xavier Worthy. 1045 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: Obviously they still have Travis Kelcey. 1046 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 2: And a big part of what they did with Rashi 1047 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: Rice was manufacture opportunities for him. I mean, it wasn't 1048 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: like they just lined him up and they let him 1049 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 2: go win one on one on routes or just try 1050 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 2: to find spots and zones, so many of his touches 1051 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 2: were manufactured. And yeah, he was great after the catch, 1052 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: But when you have guys that can legitimately win, when 1053 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: you have Marquise Brown who can legitimately win, when you 1054 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 2: have Xavier Worthy who can win, Travis Kelsey's going to 1055 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 2: continue to eat. Are they going to spend as much 1056 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: time trying to generate touches for Rashi Rice in this offense? 1057 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,439 Speaker 1: And I don't think they are. I think he'll get 1058 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: some occasionally. 1059 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get the same number 1060 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 2: of opportunities that he did last year. I mean, it 1061 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: sort of worked out because they didn't have any wide 1062 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 2: receivers that they could count on, and he stepped into 1063 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: the void there. 1064 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: That void no longer exists. 1065 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: I just don't see him getting the same level of 1066 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 2: touches that he did last season, and I really worry 1067 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 2: about it. And then throw in all the off field 1068 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 2: stuff in whatever legal situation happens, in any potential suspensions, 1069 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: if if something that comes around. But I just think 1070 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: from just a straight up football standpoint, I don't know 1071 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: that we see the same level of attention paid to 1072 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,919 Speaker 2: Rashi Rice this year that we did last year. 1073 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: Is it boom, that's it. 1074 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 3: I think it's a good legit concern, like the only 1075 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 3: because down the stretch. I mean his sense from week 1076 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,240 Speaker 3: eleven online, a week twelve on it was ten targets, 1077 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: nine targets ten nine twelve and then he had six 1078 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 3: where he had the big yardage that game. That's the 1079 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 3: only thing I think that could save him. I do 1080 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 3: agree with b August. I think his volume will decline, 1081 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 3: but maybe if those guys are tearing it up downfield, 1082 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 3: he gets a little bit more room to run and 1083 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 3: could be more efficient. But it's a legit concern. 1084 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 1085 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 2: I just I think I think Rashid Rice is a 1086 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 2: name that I have been staying away from just because 1087 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's gonna get the same kind 1088 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: of looks and look Patrick Mahomes sort of said, we 1089 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 2: want to be more vertical, we want to go downfield 1090 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: a little bit more. Now we have the personnel to 1091 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 2: do it where we really didn't the last You could 1092 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: tell ye. 1093 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't have mvy us down there anymore. 1094 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's probably for the better anyway. 1095 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a good spot for us to pause for 1096 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 2: this week. We're back with you tomorrow for another edition 1097 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 2: of the cheat Sheet. We will have another edition of 1098 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: Florio's Film Festival. I guess spoiler alert. We'll be watching 1099 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: The Raid, The Raid Redemption, which if you've never seen it, 1100 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: it is bonkers percent and bananas. I put out the 1101 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: poll last week about what sort of genre we should 1102 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: do and it was pretty much split between action movies 1103 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: and martial arts movies. So this sort of fits the 1104 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 2: bill for both, So we'll do this one. I think 1105 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 2: what's gonna end up happening. We'll just kind of pick 1106 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 2: an array of movies, and you guys are always welcome 1107 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: to jump into the chat and suggest movies or hit 1108 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: us up on social media and suggests movies. 1109 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: But we'll be back. We'll talk some football, we'll talk 1110 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: some movies. 1111 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: We'll have a good time on the cheat sheet, So 1112 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 2: be sure to check that out as we are streaming 1113 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 2: for that tomorrow. By the way, I should say this 1114 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: more often, and I don't go out and subscribe, you know, 1115 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,959 Speaker 2: like the pod, subscribe to it, make sure it shows 1116 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: up in your feed whenever we drop new ones as well, 1117 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 2: and go check out and subscribe to our YouTube channel 1118 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 2: as well. 1119 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 1: So you don't miss anything that we are doing over 1120 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 1: there also. 1121 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, now I'm going for this edition of the 1122 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do 1123 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,959 Speaker 2: good and live well. Enjoy the day, enjoy the week. 1124 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again real soon