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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to this Saturday edition of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: And I read.

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Speaker 1: An article in Forbes magazine, TJ. That caught my attention.

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Speaker 3: What do you think you read forbed them? Nice?

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Speaker 2: Yes, every now and then I have some high brow moments.

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Speaker 3: Nice, very nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm really interested in.

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Speaker 1: The economy and how I can further my investments. No,

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Speaker 1: but this one actually was about a relationship. This actually

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Speaker 1: you had nothing to do with an investment or money

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Speaker 1: of any kind. But perhaps it's the thing that we

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Speaker 1: can invest in the most each other exactly.

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Speaker 2: I like how you pick that up?

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Speaker 1: All right, So what would you think of this headline?

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Speaker 1: Just one minute of focused attention can transform your relationship.

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Speaker 3: One minute of focused attention, that's what the headline says.

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Speaker 2: Yep, one minute.

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Speaker 1: So they're talking about daily, but sixty seconds every day

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Speaker 1: a focused attention can transform your relationship.

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Speaker 2: Do you buy it?

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know what? I buy it enough that I

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Speaker 3: would go click, which I assume was what that headline

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Speaker 3: was meant to do, was to get me.

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Speaker 2: To click, which is exactly what I did.

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Speaker 3: So, yes, I'm curious. But let's if we're going to

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Speaker 3: take it step by step. Just hearing that I would go, Okay, obviously.

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Speaker 1: That's bs you'd be I rolling right, Okay, So here's

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Speaker 1: I like the concept. So the researcher or the psychologist

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Speaker 1: who notes several studies and own anecdotal personal evidence from

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Speaker 1: just their own practice, said that people make the mistake

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Speaker 1: of thinking that big events are what define a relationship,

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Speaker 1: that's what stands out in a relationship, But it's actually

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Speaker 1: the small, repeated rituals that actually end up reassuring your partner.

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Speaker 3: Did they give you examples of big events? What were

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Speaker 3: we talking about? We literally talk about marriage or engagement,

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Speaker 3: a first date and that kind of stuff. Actually think

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Speaker 3: flowers or.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the grand gestures. People think, oh, I've

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Speaker 1: got to I've got to go out for a big

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Speaker 1: date night, or I need to make a plan for

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Speaker 1: this vacation for just the two of us, and they're

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Speaker 1: thinking those are the moments that we should focus on

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Speaker 1: as a couple. But actually it's all wrong, that's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying. It's actually all the small, little daily things

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Speaker 1: that end up deciding whether or not your relationship is

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Speaker 1: successful and long lasting or not. So sixty seconds is

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Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Sixty seconds a full undivided attention.

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Speaker 1: You want some examples of what that could look for?

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Speaker 3: Well, what makes you I understand what you're saying. These

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Speaker 3: researchers are saying you can improve your relationship by simply

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Speaker 3: giving your partner sixty seconds of your time undivided.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and this is a decision daily. So they're talking

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Speaker 1: about no cell phone in hand. Yeah, no multitasking going on, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no rushing around. There's no where you had like, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel rushed. It's just an intentional minute devoted to

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Speaker 1: the partner.

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Speaker 2: What. Okay, So there are some examples.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's an example, one minute of a long hug.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are you laughing?

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Speaker 2: I'm imagining us hugging with the timer on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does cuddling count?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So they've recited a twenty twenty two study.

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Speaker 1: I've seen tons of these studies that say with just

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Speaker 1: a twenty second hug, you have your cortisol levels, your

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Speaker 1: stress levels are immediately reduced.

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Speaker 2: Like it's palpable. They have wired people up and even

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Speaker 2: a twenty.

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Speaker 1: Second hug has a significant neurological impact. So imagine if

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Speaker 1: you just said, sometimes I come up to you and

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Speaker 1: I just say, can I have a hug.

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Speaker 2: That is that annoying?

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Speaker 3: It's well, it depends on if you're asking for it

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Speaker 3: because you just did something to piss me off.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, it's not that. I'm just joking. Stop, No,

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like in the morning sometimes.

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Speaker 3: No, of course it's not annoying. Who gets annoyed? If

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Speaker 3: anybody out there gets annoyed by a hug or a

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Speaker 3: request for a hug. No, how many hugs have you

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Speaker 3: ever had that didn't feel good? Few?

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Speaker 1: We've had some only from someone I didn't like or

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Speaker 1: I didn't like at the time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but if your spouse, your maid, the anybody you

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Speaker 3: like puts their arms around you, and the embrace always

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Speaker 3: feels good. So you're telling me a sixty second.

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Speaker 2: Hug, it changes the day.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me that every couple out there that's struggling

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Speaker 3: start with this. Yeah, put your arms around each other

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Speaker 3: for sixty seconds a day.

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Speaker 1: You know what I would say, that can't hurt, can't hurt,

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Speaker 1: It can't hurt. So that was one example. One minute

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Speaker 1: of a long hug. Okay, one minute where you share

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Speaker 1: a moment of gratitude with each other. So they're saying

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Speaker 1: it could be first thing in the morning, last thing

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Speaker 1: at night where you just say something you're grateful for

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Speaker 1: about the other person. You just make a note of

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Speaker 1: letting the other person know.

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Speaker 2: What you're grateful for.

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Speaker 3: Ever done anything like that. No, I've never tried to

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Speaker 3: nam Ah to sit down and do that kind of routine.

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting that you say that, because they absolutely

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Speaker 1: say that it will feel strange at first. It will

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Speaker 1: absolutely feel strange at first. But if you incorporate one

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Speaker 1: or both or some of these practices daily, And that

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Speaker 1: was it has to be consistent, and it has to

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Speaker 1: be intentional. And they actually they have some suggestions and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into them about how you can make this

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Speaker 1: a constant thing, how to make it stick.

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Speaker 2: So to speak.

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Speaker 1: But they said, give it two to three weeks before

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Speaker 1: you say this is so dumb, this is so silly,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't matter. Give it two to three weeks and

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Speaker 1: see and then you'll know, and they claim you'll recognize

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Speaker 1: that it absolutely is a game change. Who's the researcher

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Speaker 1: is this psychologist you have Forbes magazine just going through

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Speaker 1: all of their resources. But another thing they said, in

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Speaker 1: the morning, you could check in for one minute and

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Speaker 1: say how can I support you today? What's your day like?

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Speaker 1: And is there anything I can do to support you today?

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Speaker 1: That's sweet. That sounds like a dream to me. If

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Speaker 1: every day your partners, Hey, what's your day like? And

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Speaker 1: is there any way I can support you today?

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Speaker 3: Man, y'all hope everybody's writing this down. Two out of

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Speaker 3: the three at least can be done instantly, yep, Like

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Speaker 3: you can start this tomorrow. But when you go about

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Speaker 3: your day, it's not just amount of saying, hey, what

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Speaker 3: you got going which can show a level of interest,

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Speaker 3: and that's fine, But when you take it a step further,

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Speaker 3: how can what all you've got going on? How can

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Speaker 3: I make that load easier? Ah? How can I assist?

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Speaker 1: Do you instantly feel like gratitude towards the person who

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Speaker 1: asks you that?

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Speaker 2: You immediately feel that. It feels so supportive and you

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Speaker 2: feel connected.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like that too. I like this one too,

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Speaker 1: because sometimes you're not always in the best place with

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Speaker 1: your partner. Sometimes you're annoyed, sometimes there are issues. So

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Speaker 1: they say it's okay to do We're really good, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But they say it's okay to do a one minute

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Speaker 1: silent ritual, which means holding hands. Just go and hold

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Speaker 1: your partner's hand for one minute. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: say anything. They even suggested this seemed funny to me,

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Speaker 1: and I laughed picturing this.

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Speaker 2: But forehead to forehead, I don't see us doing that, right,

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Speaker 2: that's funny?

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Speaker 3: Was that being forehead to forehead?

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Speaker 1: You just put your forehead to your partner's forehead and

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Speaker 1: you say nothing, but you're connected. That's a very intimate

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Speaker 1: thing to do that you would not do with anyone else.

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Speaker 3: The movie posters of that, like some love stories and

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Speaker 3: they have forehead to forehead.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever we might have like touched fore heads? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but we that's usually don't We don't linger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's cuddling. We don't stand in a hall

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Speaker 3: while you're touching its okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing was you could do breathwork

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Speaker 1: like breathing together with that also, I would just start laughing.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing we have that we have that friendship

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Speaker 1: like two kids who should not sit next to each

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Speaker 1: other in school friendship.

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Speaker 2: We would just.

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Speaker 1: Start laughing if we had to do breathwork together, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever do yoga with you,

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Speaker 1: because I would just start laughing. I would just start

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Speaker 1: laughing at watching you.

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Speaker 3: You don't think I could handle yoga, is what you say?

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Speaker 2: I think you would look hilarious doing yoga.

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Speaker 1: Why I just do Maybe you'd be sexy and you'd

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Speaker 1: be amazing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I have it. It's something we

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Speaker 2: could try.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I think Wait, those were five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those were some of you tell me.

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Speaker 3: The one before the last one, it was something I

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Speaker 3: wanted to get at. What was it?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: That was a one minute morning check in and then

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Speaker 1: after you find out what they're doing, you ask how

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Speaker 1: can I support you today?

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Speaker 3: That's a really really good one. And the last one

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Speaker 3: was what.

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Speaker 1: That was just a silent ritual holding hands for a minute.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, does it count if you're holding

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Speaker 1: Well, they said you shouldn't be distracted or or multitasking, gotcha?

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that counts.

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Speaker 3: No, what if? So you shouldn't be watching a movie

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Speaker 1: Should it's not part of this practice? Like, that's great

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Speaker 1: to do that, but this is actually an intentional We're

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Speaker 1: just gonna sit and it's about feeling and acknowledging the connection,

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Speaker 1: and so that's part of what it is, where you

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Speaker 1: actually it's not just a habit where you're just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: inadvertently touching each other.

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Speaker 2: This is I am intentionally connecting to you.

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Speaker 3: That's good. I like that with the I thought about

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Speaker 3: that because you said sitting in silence, I was, and

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Speaker 3: then holding hands. It made me think of this happened.

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Speaker 3: It's happened a couple of days recently. And we both

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Speaker 3: laughed out loud after I said it. But we're walking

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Speaker 3: down the street, we're holding hands, and then after a

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Speaker 3: block or two we haven't said anything, and I say.

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Speaker 2: Are we in a fight?

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Speaker 3: Are we fighting?

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Speaker 1: Like, no, we're just taking in all the sights and

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Speaker 1: sounds and whatever. But no, that is true because it

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Speaker 1: feels weird, like why are we not talking right now?

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Speaker 1: But I actually think sometimes that's a level of comfort,

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Speaker 1: all right. For the skeptics out there.

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Speaker 2: The article has a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Good points to try and combat any skeptics out there.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they said to think about this sixty seconds,

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Speaker 1: this minute as a deposit in your emotional bank account.

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Speaker 1: So research shows that couples who stayd together consistently make

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Speaker 1: far more deposits than withdrawals.

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Speaker 2: What is a withdrawal?

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Speaker 1: You ask, any time you ignore your partner or you

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Speaker 1: dismiss your partner, whether you realize it or not, you

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Speaker 1: are there is a withdrawal that is being made where

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Speaker 1: your your other partner feels less connected, they feel misunderstood.

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Speaker 1: So that is the negative. The positive is the connection.

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Speaker 1: Right. So they say, I love this. This is what

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Speaker 1: Damn it's harder than you think, especially when you have kids,

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Speaker 1: are talking about a pretty cool concept that came from Forbes' magazine.

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Speaker 1: This notion that all it takes is one minute each day,

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Speaker 3: And again, this is supposed to be undivided. It's not

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Speaker 2: No, in fact, you did, Hey, can we put our

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Speaker 2: we take our minute? Whatever that is? It's a hug,

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Speaker 2: it's a handhole.

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Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, that's fun. Do you think we get

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a minute consecutively, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: We should put a timer on it a couple times

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna start reeling off some things undivided though undivided.

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Speaker 3: The time you get in conversation with me laying down

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yes, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: They also said for parents, a really good time to do.

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Speaker 1: I think that is what it is. And they say, yes,

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Speaker 1: You want to try it, I would like to try it.

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Speaker 1: I think we could try it and then report back

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Speaker 1: They want to to let everyone who is willing to

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Speaker 1: not how you do it or when you do it necessarily,

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Speaker 1: You're saying, this is important enough that I am going

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Speaker 3: I like it. Okay, you brought me around.

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Speaker 1: All right, very cool? Well, hey, and we love to

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Speaker 1: read the article, it's in Forbes. But it was a

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Speaker 1: us on this Saturday. I'm Amy Roboch along with TJ.

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Speaker 2: Holmes. Have a great day, everybody.

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