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Speaker 1: Everybody welcomes to between the Horns. Miles Simmons here with

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Speaker 1: DeMarco far It is Thursday, November twenty ninth. It is

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Speaker 1: a rainy day here in Agora Hills Calified. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you needed the rain. Yeah, let it rain.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely flooded in my neighborhood, did it. Really? It's so

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Speaker 1: hilly and sometimes at the bottom of the hill, it

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Speaker 1: just it floods. Well, it creates those mudslides too. I

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Speaker 1: mean we had ye folks, I mean trying to come

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Speaker 1: very very bad drivers with rain, right, so we know this,

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Speaker 1: but one of our producers out there had so much trouble.

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Speaker 1: Like literally, it's it's about ten fifty five. You walked

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Speaker 1: in the building ten minutes ago. Wow, left at seven

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Speaker 1: forty five. Do you like automatically like offer the excuse?

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Speaker 1: Do you tell people what happened? Or you just go

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Speaker 1: to your desk first. I mean you go to your

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Speaker 1: But it's like, man, that's well, there's three hours in

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Speaker 1: the car. There's this guy that lives right next to

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Speaker 1: It's the main artery to get to the freeway. And

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Speaker 1: he lives on the right side of the road and

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Speaker 1: he always parks his truck and it's a one lane.

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Speaker 1: He parks his truck on the street. So there are

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Speaker 1: he's been there since the sixties, so he wants everyone

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Speaker 1: to know. It's his house that's annoying. It is. Well,

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Speaker 1: a tree fell on his truck today. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying it's one of those things. Three

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Speaker 1: years finally some some come up ins. Yes. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: the Rams had a bye week on Thanksgiving, which is awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think I mentioned this in the

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Speaker 1: last podcast, like I got to spend Thanksgiving with my

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Speaker 1: family for the first time in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: And did they know you this guy, Well, they they

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Speaker 1: liked me. I cooked. I'm gonna do a flex here,

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Speaker 1: like I cooked the turkey, you did, I did. I

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, but I've made both and your help

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Speaker 1: on your mom was hovering right, She did not hover,

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Speaker 1: but she did help cut the bread for the stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's all the help. I can hear the helicopter blades

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Speaker 1: whenever your mom is in town. Yeah, yeah, she hovers

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Speaker 1: right right above your head. Oh no, she does that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't try to. She loves you. She's okay, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. But it was great to be able to

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Speaker 1: do that, spend that with the family. How is your Thanksgiving? Good? Fun?

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Speaker 1: Same thing? Um, my family didn't know. Like usually you're

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Speaker 1: on the road or you're worried about football, and this

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Speaker 1: time I didn't have to, so it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Got to be normal, just watch football. Yeah yeah, get

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Speaker 1: into some conversations about football that I didn't start, you know,

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Speaker 1: It was good too, you know. My mom was in town,

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Speaker 1: we had lots of turkey, hung out with my brothers,

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Speaker 1: all all good stuff. Yeah. How often do you bring

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Speaker 1: and it's January. Well we haven't qualified. Well how do

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Speaker 1: you qualify? Well you have to win more games? Wellhy

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Speaker 1: As just as a side point, I wonder, twenty years

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, despite all of the controversies that

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Speaker 1: That was very special. Yeah. So I think that being

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Speaker 1: of refocused us. Hey, look this is great, but we

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Speaker 1: there's more out there for you guys. Now. It ended,

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Speaker 1: they give you their President's Trophy, but hockey players won't

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Speaker 1: But celebrated first. Absolutely, And I honestly, I really feel

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Speaker 1: so that's the last that's you're talking about generations and

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Speaker 1: It's a long time before Sean McVeigh was even born.

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Speaker 1: But guess what, Wade Phillips was still coaching in the league.

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Speaker 1: But crazy unreal, isn't it. But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: to be celebrated, no doubt. I mean, but you have

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Speaker 1: less what people think of Detroit or how they think

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Speaker 1: Detroit is going to perform. They're going to give you

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Matt Stafford. This is the time

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Speaker 1: And one guy that should be out on the field

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Speaker 1: trying to prevent Stafford from throwing it everywhere as a

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Speaker 1: You may do it for fifteen weeks or fourteen, but

425
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Speaker 1: one time in a sixteen game season, my name is

426
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: going to be above yours in some stat column. Okay,

427
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 1: are you talking from experience, because like, as so this

428
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 1: is leading me into two things. Ay, you are more

429
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: active on tw or now, which, like I think that's

430
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,479
Speaker 1: a great thing. Yeah. So you were talking the other

431
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 1: day about Kevin Carter, yeah, and how he had one

432
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 1: of the better seasons you'd ever seen in nineteen ninety nine.

433
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 1: So is that how you felt about being in the

434
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 1: same room with Kevin Carter in the nineteen ninety nine resolutely,

435
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: no doubt. Now this this was my job to get

436
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,479
Speaker 1: Kevin going. All I had to do to make him

437
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: rex shop for four strade quarters was make the first play.

438
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 1: That's all I had to do. If I made the

439
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: first big play, big sack, big tackle for loss, He's

440
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna make the next nine in a row either way

441
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: we win. So it's all good. But I'm not gonna

442
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: sit second fiddle to anybody for sixteen weeks. At some

443
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: point I'm gonna outproduce you. I don't think anybody's been

444
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: playing second fiddle for sixteen weeks. I mean the first

445
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: few weeks of the season eleven. He didn't have a

446
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: sack in the first couple, So you got five more games.

447
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: Somebody in that room needs to step up and have

448
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: a big day. Not named Donald. Okay, yeah, So you're

449
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: looking for Brockers, you're looking for Sue, you're looking for

450
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm looking for all of them, but I

451
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: bet it's probably gonna be Fowler. Okay, Yeah, just got here.

452
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: But I think he has the best chance of out

453
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: producing Donald in a game. In one game, just one game,

454
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: did Samson abecome out produce Sara Donald in the last game.

455
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: Well he benefited from Donald no, yea, yeah, you know

456
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: you benefited from the stuff that he did. So yes,

457
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: the other I mean the pick six, that was no

458
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: doubt that. Yes, I hear you, And I have to

459
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: give him a lot of credit because I heard them

460
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 1: talking about screens at halftime that Kansas City runs screens

461
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: out of everywhere and we have to play it better.

462
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: And they specifically coached him get your hands in the

463
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: throwing lane. Yeah, the ball's gonna hitch you. Sure enough

464
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: it did and stuck to him. Yeah, that's a guy

465
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: taking what he learned at halftime and bringing it out

466
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: to the field. That's great stuff. Yes, that is great stuff. Um.

467
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to that line right

468
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and the front seven, I think the Rams have got

469
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: to get better in run defense going down the stress,

470
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: especially like we're saying, you know you're gonna see teams

471
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: in the postseason. And the thing that about the NFL

472
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: has always been when it's playoff football, take a run game,

473
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: take a defense. And I know that the NFL is different.

474
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: Passer ratings are higher than they've ever been, Quarterbacks are

475
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: throwing for more touchdowns, etc. Etc. The air game is

476
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of where it's at. But once you get into

477
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: postseason football, and I'm thinking specifically about two teams, I

478
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: at least at this point, I kind of think the

479
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 1: Rams are going to see the Seahawks and the Saints.

480
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: Those two teams can run that football. The Rams are

481
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to stop the run. Bay Yeah,

482
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: and the Rams are gonna have to keep running the

483
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: football as well. On the other side. Absolutely. I mean, look,

484
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: the clock is the thing in the postseason. And if

485
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: you he who controls the clock or controls the ground

486
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: controls the clock. Yes, so it's easier to win games

487
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: when you can run the football in December in January

488
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: moving forward. So and the Rams can do that. But

489
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: stopping the run absolutely, This is funny. There's in the

490
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: Rams locker room at the Coliseum at the end of

491
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: the D line Rows like to call it. Yeah. So

492
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: there's Donald and Sue yes, and there's the media just

493
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of standing about what ten yards away not even

494
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 1: there's not much space in that room. I think they

495
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: could actually get closer, it's just they don't want to,

496
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I get it. So

497
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna wait. I'm just

498
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: gonna go talk to Sue for a minute. And he

499
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: looked up and said, I'm not talking today, and I said,

500
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: I've been there, I understand. So the first guy I

501
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: looked for the on the box score was Sue. Let

502
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: me find his name, And I had to go through

503
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: about ten or twelve guys before I found his name.

504
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: One assist. Oh, okay, he's not happy. He's not happy.

505
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: He didn't make plays. Now, let me go watch the film. Okay,

506
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: he got knocked on his keyster a few times. He's

507
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: really not happy. So then I was like, I was worried.

508
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: After the bye week, I got happy and said, oh

509
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for Detroit. He's going back to his

510
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: former spot. Yeah, and he didn't play well the week before. Yeah.

511
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh this is gonna be fun. Yeah, this is gonna

512
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: be painfully fun. I can't wait for this. That's interesting

513
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: because it was funny yesterday. We were in the locker

514
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: room after practice, and you know, Sue, everybody's standing around

515
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: his locker. It's the same sort of situation, and nobody

516
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: wants to go up to him first. I mean, you

517
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: want to let the man get dressed and That's a

518
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: thing that I think is just the strangest part about

519
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: covering professional sports is that we literally go into a

520
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: changing room for these players. That's the job. They're naked

521
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: and right like, and we gotta like, I don't know,

522
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: I try to have a little bit of respect for

523
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: the process, right Like, sometimes I gotta wait. Sometimes you

524
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: have to stand naked in front of the world and

525
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: just tell your truth. That's just the way it goes. Okay,

526
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: that's the job. It's like the end of the first

527
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: act in hair. That's the job. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, You've

528
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: got to ask the questions and you have to answer right. Yes.

529
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: But yesterday Sue was like starting to walk out of

530
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: the locker room and then everybody was like, um, you

531
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: know what, we need to talk to you, sir, And

532
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: he was like, you want to talk to me? And

533
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: then they're like, well, why do you think we want

534
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: to talk to you? Miss? Um let's see, Yeah, maybe

535
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: because you played in Detroit. Yeah, and the team's going

536
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: back and it's the first time you will play Detroit.

537
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: But what he said, and Gary Klein of Los Angeles

538
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Times will give him credit because Gary kept circling back

539
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: around to this because Sue was trying to evade the question,

540
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: and Gary's like, I mean, you know, what do you

541
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: think about going back to Detroit? Well, it Detroit's a

542
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: nice city, you know. I'm glad we're getting in on Friday.

543
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: Da da da da da. I'm gonna see nice people.

544
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: And then he really didn't say much about the Lions organization,

545
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: but they're Gary fandom. It's like, you know, specifically about

546
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: the Lions organization. I mean, what are you what are

547
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts about going back there? And Sue said that quote,

548
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: I'll refrain from my comments about the organization. Like I said,

549
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: the city is an amazing city, great people there. I

550
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing a bunch of people. Glad we're

551
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: going in on a Friday so I can have some

552
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: time to catch up with folks. But I refrain from

553
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: the organization to say the least wow. So that doesn't

554
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: say the least to me. That says a lot. Sometimes

555
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: it's what you don't say right exactly. But I just

556
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: going back to that conversation we had about me not

557
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: wanting a guy to outproduce me for sixteen straight weeks. Yes,

558
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: I know, and Dominican Sue is not gonna want Aaron

559
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: Donnald to outproduce him in his old house. No way,

560
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: There's there's no way he's gonna let that happen. I

561
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: like to see that competition. It's going to be a

562
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: race to wait, yeah, that's going to be interesting. Oh yeah,

563
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean this is and this is what this team

564
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: I think needs. You know, you want to start keep

565
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: stacking those blocks and keep getting better as you go

566
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: down the stretch. This is something to leave talked about

567
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: the other day too. When you're getting ready for a

568
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: postseason run, you want to start to play your best football,

569
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: no doubt. And the Rams have played great football throughout

570
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: the course of the twenty eighteen season and against great

571
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: teams the last four or five weeks. Absolutely, yeah, yes,

572
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: great football teams, great teams, great quarterbacks. Yeah yeah. They

573
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: could have lost any number of those games. They lost one.

574
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Now this week could be different. Meaning what I think

575
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: the Rams are clearly the better team. Yes, clearly the

576
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: better team. So just go out and act like it.

577
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: So I think maybe what everybody wants. Defensively, I think

578
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: you may actually get in Detroit this Sunday. This is

579
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: a get back on track if there ever was a

580
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: get back on track game, you know what I mean,

581
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: blow up the tracks and start over. Maybe, yeah, I

582
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: mean it's like kind of like the San Francisco game

583
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: was a few weeks ago. They got flexed out of

584
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football and then Aaron Donald comes in and

585
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: he sacks CJ. Bethard four times and has the weirdest

586
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: strip recovery I've ever seen, you know, and you got

587
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: back on track, I think defensively, especially in that particular game.

588
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: So defensively, you want to be able to stop the

589
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: run because right now you're giving up five point two

590
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: yards per carry. You want to you want to get

591
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: better with that for sure, but you also want to

592
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: be able to eliminate big plays better than you have

593
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: over the course of the season so far. That's something

594
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: that guys have been talking about this week. They want

595
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: to make sure they're eliminating big plays because defensively, right now,

596
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: the Rams are not great in that area. I mean,

597
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: they've allowed twelve pass plays of at least forty yards

598
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: in forty six pass plays of at least twenty yards

599
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: in the last five weeks I know, probably a lot,

600
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: right So they're tied with Oakland that number thirty one

601
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: number thirty two. They're last in the league in terms

602
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: of pass plays over some Raider fan going, yeah, see

603
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: we're not the only one, yes, exactly, Okay, but then

604
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are worse in terms of allowing pass plays

605
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: of at least twenty yards. They've got fifty, but nobody

606
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: else is ahead of the Rams. No. I mean, look,

607
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: at some point against the Chiefs, you just abandon the

608
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: run and you just have to start gunning to keep

609
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: up with them. And the Rams are similar except who

610
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: they've been playing. So I think you might see a

611
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: return to what do you call that water receieps to

612
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: its own level of regression to the mean. Oh yeah,

613
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: I think it's the play at the top because you're

614
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: facing breeze, you're facing Rogers, you're facing Mahomes, so it's

615
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: a little different. Um, it's gonna be tough for Matt

616
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: Stafford to get the ball down field unless there's a

617
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: bunch of broken tackles, yes, which I don't see. You're

618
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: coming off a bye week, you're going to be fresh,

619
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: So I think this could be their best tackling game.

620
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: And I like Detroit's offen some line. Don't get me wrong,

621
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: they're just young they're young. I think they're three of

622
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: their guys are within three years or a rookie. There's

623
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: a rookie guard starting, which is the scariest thing versus

624
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Ensue. Yeah. Yeah, your left tackle is a

625
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: first rounder out of Ohio State. He's been he's been

626
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: in the league three years. Yeah. So I mean they're young,

627
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: they're good, they're athletic, they're well coached. But I mean

628
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: I expect this defensive line to go up there and dominate.

629
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I think you should dominate. It's a fair expectation, especially

630
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: when you're coming off the bye you're well arrested. I

631
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: mean they're pretty well arrested too. They played on Thanksgiving,

632
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: they haven't played since, so I mean maybe that kind

633
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: of evens things out a little bit. But I think

634
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: that that's a fair expectation, and I think that's what

635
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: you want this week to kind of get you rolling,

636
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: set you up for what this stretch one is supposed

637
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: to be. One defense, And I'd be surprised if Jim

638
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: Bob Cooter had a game plane to where he's gonna

639
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: drop the seven or put his quarterback in harm's way

640
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: to get the ball down field. I'd bet it's going

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: to be one step get the ball out, yes, or

642
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: three steps get the ball out and then see if

643
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: the Rams won't to tackle. It should be Yeah, it

644
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: absolutely should be. Um. Let's say about the offense to sure, Um,

645
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: where do you think the Rams must improve offensively? Oh?

646
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: Must improve? Um? Well, it's hard to say, I know.

647
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had the magic elixir, is that

648
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: what you call it? I call it that to keep

649
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley healthy for four quarters per game. I wish

650
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: that was the case because I think Monday Night would

651
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: have been different had he not gotten winged early age. Yeah,

652
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: especially towards the end when you had control and you

653
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: had to give the ball back to Kansas City and

654
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: scared the out of everybody in Los Angeles when you

655
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: had to give it back to Mahomes with a lad.

656
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: So if you could run Todd Gurley more in that situation,

657
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I bet you would have. So just keeping him active

658
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: and keeping him viable for four quarters, that's the thing

659
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I would say you have to improve on. Okay, Well,

660
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: that's that's not what I mean. You can't have silly control. Yeah,

661
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, but I hear you, and I think

662
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: one of the things that's good about going into this

663
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: week is that Sean McVay said, Look, Todd Gurley's fine.

664
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: We expect him to be healthy. We expected to be

665
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: all totally recovered. It wasn't that that ankle injury was

666
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: something that really kept him out, because it didn't keep

667
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: him out. I mean, he had a twenty something yard

668
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: run towards the end of the third quarter. He caught

669
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: a couple of screens and then we get holding calls, right,

670
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: so Worth gets a holding call and then that has

671
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: to come back and so that kind of throws things

672
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: off on that drive. But I think you're right, Look,

673
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley has got to still be as effective and

674
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: you want him to keep leading the league in rushing.

675
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because if he's doing that, that likely means

676
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: the Rams are winning games handily. Well that's the other thing.

677
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: And I'll never get into this because I don't care

678
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: about stats, but this is the week he probably passes

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: Zeke because Zeke's got his hands full with New Orleans.

680
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: They stop the run. So I think maybe if this

681
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: game goes the way we think it's going to go

682
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: in Detroit, I think Ty can start ripping off long runs. Yeah,

683
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: maybe towards the mid part of the second quarter, definitely

684
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth if he stays active exactly How unique

685
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: do you feel like this is with the offensive line

686
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: that they knock on wood and I don't want to

687
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: jinx anything, and I kind of don't believe in jinxes,

688
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: but do they? This is you're getting. Basically, You've had

689
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: a season and a half plus of this unit being

690
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: healthy each and every game, able to start each and

691
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: every game at least you know, they've got to be

692
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: dealing with some stuff. And Roger Staffold actually said that

693
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: when we were in Colorado. But this, I think this

694
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: unit has been really the cornerstone of the offense and

695
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: it's why the offense has been able to be so good.

696
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: You have the same starting five week after week after week.

697
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: Your starters are your starters, and that is so helpful

698
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: in my opinion, just to what the Rams want to

699
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: do on offense, no doubt, And I think the bye

700
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: week has helped them tremendously. It's about as late as

701
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: you can get for bye weeks. It is. It's eleven weeks.

702
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: And you know, with Roger Sully, these guys have a

703
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: lot of games under their belt. They do and they

704
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: played well for eleven straight weeks. They needed the week off,

705
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: they needed to rest, So I expect them to be

706
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: at their best. I expect them to look like they

707
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't September. I mean as quick. I mean just position

708
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: blocking guys getting out on screens, making draws look like

709
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: a seven step drop. I mean, that's how Todd Gurley

710
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: gets out on draws, where the screens work when they

711
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: sell pass and then they sprint to another position. So

712
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I expect them to look Spryan fresh come Sunday. Yeah

713
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: I better. Yeah, yes, they better. And it's gonna be

714
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: essential for them to you know, stay healthy, to be

715
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a way that's like, oh, well,

716
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: you must not trust these rookies. And I look, what's

717
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: been great about having guys like Sullivan, like Whitworth, Like, yeah,

718
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: I would punch him right in the face. I would

719
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: if I was a player, if I was if I

720
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: was a young nose, if I was an old nose

721
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: tackle against Sully. He knows I would punch him right

722
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: in the face. I would take the fifteen yard penalty.

723
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: He is so sneaky, he is so crafty, exactly getting

724
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: guys to jump off sides. He'll twitch everything and not

725
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: move twitch and eyebrow blank at you, you know, breathe

726
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: funny just to get you to jump off side. Oh,

727
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: it just drives you nuts. Oh. Those are the kinds

728
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: of things he's passing on to the younger generation. And

729
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: that's what Aaron Crumb. And he's a great actor too.

730
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: When he gets a nose tackle to like jump and

731
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: hit him, he'll flop. He did sell it. But that

732
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: was the funny thing. You know, you don't often see

733
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: anymore encroachment. Yeah, like it's usually just neutral zone in fraction. Yeah,

734
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: but he got the nose guard to come up and

735
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: actually hit him and then he's like, oh, smiling, laughing,

736
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: knowing he just got the other guy fired. Yeah, I

737
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: would punch him right in the face. Yeah, I'm glad

738
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: to have him though, Yes, exactly. Well, because you're on

739
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: the same team, right, and it's it's different when those

740
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: offensive guys are there. Um. One other thing that I

741
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: think the Rams half does because I know group listens.

742
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: He was a center when we won the Super Bowl.

743
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Group was sneaky like that. He'll get anybody to jump. Anybody,

744
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: even the most disciplined guy will get caught. It's Oh,

745
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: it's just so frustrating. Yes, you know, I not having

746
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: played defense that much in my high school football career.

747
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: As we play glory days, Like, the funniest thing to

748
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: me was always when they'd be like, just watch the

749
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: little brown thing move into the little brown thing moves.

750
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: What was his name? I loved it when defensives would

751
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: jump offside. What was his name? Last week? Alvin the

752
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackle? I think it was Alvin Reid for for

753
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yes, that sounds right. Okay, Well, the nose

754
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: tackle to his left. Young guy jumps off the same

755
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: guy that decked Sully and he pounds the ground like,

756
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: how can you jump? You're staring, You're right over the ball. Well,

757
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: you don't know what this guy's doing here. You don't

758
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: know what he's giving me to make me jump. I'm

759
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: not doing it on purpose, He's making me do it.

760
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: Nobody jumps on purpose, right, Well, I did. Absolutely. I'll

761
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: give you a free five yards. What's the one thing

762
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: an offensive woman can't do once he gets in a

763
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: three point stance, move exactly, I can. I'll fire across

764
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: and drill you right in the head. Absolutely, take the

765
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: five yards. You'll be feeling that for the next three quarters.

766
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Did you do that because you had the offense you had?

767
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: I did that if in case you were holding me lot, Yeah,

768
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: if you held me a lot, I'm not getting satisfaction

769
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: from the officials, then I have to kind of serve justice. Yeah,

770
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: so I'll give you a free five. Interesting. Oh yeah,

771
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hard five too. Oh yeah, you're

772
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna earn it. So you got called for encroachment. Oh absolutely,

773
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go look at Pro Football Reference.

774
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: As soon as I drillia, I'll just turn around and

775
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: walk back five yards with my hand on. It was me.

776
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: I did it what I was going to it was

777
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: golf and the sack fumbles. And he mentioned this in

778
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday. This is something that he has

779
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: to get better at. Can't turn the ball over like

780
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: that because I mean, again, postseason football, that's what guys

781
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: are gonna do. They're gonna come after you, They're gonna

782
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: get into the pocket. You can't give the ball away

783
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: on a sack. You just can't do it because you

784
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: eliminate the weapon that you have. And yes, I use

785
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: the word weapon in Johnny Hecker because he is, especially

786
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: with that punt, right man ark Hill has a green

787
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: light from anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, there's no way in the

788
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: world he should have fielded that punt. No, yeah, on

789
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: the one and then you backed up into the end zone. Yes,

790
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: that's how you know you're fast. Yes, yeah, when they

791
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: let you do that and he still got to the

792
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: ten or the twelve, the guy can fly. But I mean,

793
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: you need those sort of punts. You need Johnny Hecker

794
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: to be a weapon from this point on. Yes, exactly,

795
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: of course, referencing the Bill Belichick conference call where he

796
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: said that, But I think the thing that you you

797
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: need from Jared Goff is just that consistency there because

798
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: he's played extremely well. And if not for Todd Gurley

799
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: doing the things that Todd Gurley's doing, I think Jared

800
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Goff would be more in the conversation of MVP candidates,

801
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: no doubt. Squeeze the ball in traffic. If you're a quarterback,

802
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you have to protect it, and

803
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: the best way to ensure that you don't get strip

804
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: sacked is to get rid of the football. Yeah, make

805
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: sure you don't have it when the rush gets there. Yes,

806
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: that's the best way to do it. But I mean

807
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: when you are in traffic, when they do have you trapped,

808
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: and they do trap even the best running quarterbacks, even

809
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson gets trapped at some point and in the pocket.

810
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Just make sure you protect the football at all costs, exactly.

811
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: And as long as he does that, I mean, I

812
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: think he's done such a good job, especially without Cooper Cup.

813
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm making sure Josh Reynolds is is a big

814
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: part of this offense as anybody. And I think there's

815
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: probably something to it for Josh Reynolds now that he

816
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: knows it's a permanent thing, you know, and you're not

817
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: just kind of in there replacing Cooper Cup and then

818
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: oh well we're gonna put Nick Williams in on certain situations.

819
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Excuse me, it is now really Woods, Cooks, Reynolds. Wow,

820
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: And I mean it got toller. Yeah, yeah, you know,

821
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: you got more dangerous. I mean, Cooper Cup is about

822
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: as dangerous as they come because he is a football player.

823
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: We don't have to go into this. We know about

824
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. But when you add a Josh Reynolds to

825
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: the mix, I mean, now you have to play the

826
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: game above the rim too. Yeah, and not every corner

827
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: can run with these guys and then jump at the

828
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: same time. Yes, And it seems like Jared Goff knows

829
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: how to play point guard. He knows where to put

830
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: it for guys like Reynolds to go get it. Yes,

831
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: and that's really that's really good because when you've got

832
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: a guy that's six foot three, you want him to

833
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: be able to use his entire frame. You want him

834
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: to be able to go up and catch it where

835
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: the kids can't get it, as they say, yeah, because

836
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: he has the ability to do that. And if I

837
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: think mcveay put it this way, if Josh Morold's suicide

838
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: was maybe one and a half smaller, than he would

839
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: have had two touchdowns in that Kansas City game instead

840
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: of one. Wow. Yeah. You know when I heard him

841
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: say that on the Coach's Show, I'm like, man, he

842
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: repeated that on the Coaches Oh my god, you are

843
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: a tough grader. Oh my god, McVay. Okay, this is fun.

844
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean McVeigh comes up with little lines. Yeah, and

845
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: then he likes to continue to use them of course,

846
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: like and like it's his robotic nature of press conferences sometimes,

847
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, shout out to Clarence Dennis,

848
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: he our staff writer. So he and I have pointed

849
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: out like all of these different phrases than McVeagh as

850
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: we call him, doubles ms right, So it's double trust

851
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: and belief um confidence belief is another one. Confidence in

852
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: belief and trust in belief. There, Yeah, there're to mimic

853
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: and emulate. That's another one. Okay, you know easily digestible.

854
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: Get where he's coming from. Exactly. It's an economy of words.

855
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: I like it, right, So, but he like, but this

856
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: is funny that like he has done that, Like he

857
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: used that line in the press conference, then went to

858
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: the coaches show and said it's it's right in the

859
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: same building. I know ye that he often says. You know,

860
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't have much in my brain except you know,

861
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: room for football. So if I feel like you believe it.

862
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: If if you've got a line, he's gonna use it.

863
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Thinks it's a good one, going to keep you. I

864
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: believe it. And we do challenge him, JB and me,

865
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: and we'll bring up stuff during the game and he'll

866
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: like just little parts of it or only give you

867
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: twenty percent of what we really mean, and he'll find

868
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: out or figure out where we're going and tell you

869
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: the entire scenario. Yeah, from snap one to the end. Yes, yeah,

870
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: I can't, I coach. We only needed like three minutes. Right,

871
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: There was a there was something that he was talking about,

872
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: and it must have been one of the Thanksgiving games. Yeah,

873
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: but it's not something that the Rams were involved. Oh,

874
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about stuff

875
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: when he was in Washington. Oh I know, Yeah, that's

876
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It wasn't a game that he was

877
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: involved in. It was yesterday exactly. Yeah, and that he

878
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: always says, oh, well, you know, as coaches were always

879
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: going through these things. And then like oh yeah, I'll

880
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: never forget Matt Lafleur. And when I was talking to

881
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: him for a profile of Sean McVay right during training

882
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: camp of twenty seventeen, so we're still at UC Irvine, right, Yeah,

883
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: and Lafleur was telling me like, dude, this is this

884
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: guy is the craziest memory I've ever seen in my life. Wow. Yeah. Well,

885
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but

886
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: we had a coach get fired and when they cleaned

887
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: out his office. Now this is a head coach. When

888
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: they cleaned out his office for him, they found the

889
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: playbook with cellophane still on it. What yeah, oh yeah.

890
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: So when he says, you know us coaches, okay, this

891
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: is might be just you. That's why there's only one

892
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Yeah, So what's interesting? I mean, now the

893
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Rams are going to see this week as we turn

894
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: it to our look ahead. In the Detroit Lions, the

895
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: candidate a head coach that they actually interviewed for this position,

896
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: in Matt Patricia. And now Matt Patricia's got the Lions.

897
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: They're four and seven. I mean, what have you been

898
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: your impressions of what he's doing over there? Well, I mean,

899
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: if you read Detroit media, it's they're they're calling for

900
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: his head without calling for his head a little bit.

901
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: When they start pointing out that the previous head coach

902
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: was fired with a nine and seven record, Well, what

903
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: do I do with this guy here? So the buzzards

904
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: are circling, so to speak. Now they may not say

905
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: his name or say it directly, but you know what

906
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: they mean, right, So I would say this, this is

907
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: a great way for him to get those people to

908
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: go away. If you can beat the Rams. That's true,

909
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: if you can somehow find a way to defeat the

910
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: La Rams coming to town. Because most of their media

911
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: already assumes the Rams are gonna win. If you listen

912
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: to them and read what they have to say, they

913
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: assume the Rams are just gonna wipe the floor. So

914
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: if you can somehow figure out how to get a

915
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: victory over them in your own house, that at least

916
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: stave off those buzzards for another week. Yeah, for sure.

917
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: So that's how I think he's going to approach this game. Yes, yeah,

918
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: He's coming for the upset, absolutely, and that's It's something

919
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: that they were able to do this year. Earlier on

920
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: in the season when Patricia beat his former team in

921
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, and that was a really big

922
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: win for what that team was, just a team Carolina

923
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: by a point they did. Yeah, that was an odd

924
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: decision by Carolina. I mean, maybe not necessarily in the

925
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: course of the flow of that run. Well, I mean

926
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: you also had your kicker miss a field goal at

927
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: the extra point. A lot of things went wrong for

928
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: them for the Panthers, But either way, the Lions got

929
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: the wins. Yes they did, and that's a huge thing

930
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: for them. I mean when you're when you get that

931
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: fourth win at the time they became four and six, Like, hey, y,

932
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: still you're in that in the Hunt graphic. Yeah, that

933
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: that's still you. I went and looked. I was looking

934
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: at McCaffrey's numbers, his game by game, and when you

935
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: get to Detroit it stands out. Yeah. Yeah, his least

936
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: productive outing was against them. So and Cam Newton too.

937
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Just things look different. They look different against the Lions.

938
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: So I would assume that same effort will be there

939
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: on Sunday versus the Rams. Absolutely, especially when you're coming

940
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: off a long weekend. You know, you were able to

941
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: get some rest and that's something that you know what

942
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: the Rams, yes, they have their bye week, but I

943
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: think there is something to the fact that Detroit's gonna

944
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: come in here being like, hey, look, yeah, we can

945
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: play spoiler for this. Well you want to hear something funny? Okay. Julio,

946
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: our producer on the road, Yes, finally figured out that

947
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: the super Bowl this year is in Atlanta, and he goes, hey,

948
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: didn't you win a super Bowl in Atlanta? Well, yeah, well,

949
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: why didn't you say something? Well, it wasn't time to

950
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: say it. Wasn't time to talk about that yet. Also,

951
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: in that season where we won in Atlanta, we lost

952
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Yeah, and we vowed never to lose again

953
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: in Detroit. We did once we lost to Philly at

954
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: the end of the year, but we did finish out

955
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: as champions. So it's just kind of these parallels here

956
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and there. You don't have to go there and lose.

957
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but you have to go through Detroit

958
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to get to Atlanta again, I like saying, putting it

959
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: as we're good, you gotta go through you gotta go

960
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: through Detroit. Yeah. Yeah, A lot happened to us there. Interesting, Yes,

961
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: what do you mean a lot? Like just just that loss.

962
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: It galvanized us like it did. Um, well, we'll never

963
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: do this again. That's that's how we felt. That's what

964
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: we said, and that's how we practice, and that's how

965
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: we played after that game. I hope you know what though,

966
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: you sort of hope that you went through that in

967
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans, right, I would bet you did, yeah, because

968
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: it in going back to that game in the locker room,

969
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like it was the biggest deal in

970
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: the world that they lost, but it was not. So

971
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: you weren't. You weren't happy. You weren't, but you weren't,

972
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm throwing stuff against Monday's practice. Yeah. No,

973
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: we we're gonna get back to work. We're gonna get

974
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: suff down. I think we needed that loss in Detroit

975
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: to become champions. I don't think this team needs that

976
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: fair Yeah, I think you went through that in New Orleans.

977
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um. You

978
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 1: know who scares you on defense for that? Yeah? My god,

979
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: when you turn on the tape and watch him when

980
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: he's in the game. Now he's he's in and out. Um,

981
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I think he's still working himself back to being one

982
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yeah, he was dealing with the shoulder injuries,

983
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: missed most of the seas and he's got the little

984
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: brace on you can tell. Um. But if this, if

985
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: this is this guy at eighty percent, I don't want

986
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: to see him at a hundred r Yeah, because whoever

987
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: is lined up over top of him is just catching

988
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: a beating at a technical beating. And I was saying,

989
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: this man, if he's not in Detroit, if he's in

990
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: New York, if he's in the Apple, regardless of how

991
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: the Giants are doing. He is a star. The way

992
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: he's playing. I mean this, he looks like stray Hand

993
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: did way back in the day. Yeah, he is as

994
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: slippery as cat poop on linoleum. I'm serious, you just

995
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: can't get a glove on him. He's just that technically sound.

996
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: So this will be a battle for Wit. This will

997
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: be a battle for Roger Saffold because he also lines

998
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: up there and I wouldn't be surprised if he lines

999
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: up over Sully a few times. Yeah, he is a

1000
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: guy that can absolutely wreck your Sunday. You know, I

1001
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: remember when the Rams played the lines a couple of

1002
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: years ago on they played him back to back years

1003
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: in fifteen and sixteen. That was ASA's thing. You know,

1004
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: he was moving all around the defense, he was lining

1005
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: up wherever, and he was really getting into the backfield.

1006
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: And you know, right now he's got four sacks and

1007
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: only playing five games, so you can see the production

1008
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: four games, five games so far he's played. I thought

1009
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: he played one nine one week one and then the

1010
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: last three. Am I wrong? I could be wrong. I'll

1011
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: look it up real quick. But every game he's played

1012
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: he has a sack. He has been awesome. So and

1013
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: if you're watching tape, if you're in that defensive line

1014
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: meeting room, I'm sure his coach is telling him, Hey, look,

1015
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Wit is vulnerable. Look at what Kansas City did to

1016
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: Roger Saffold. I think our guy is better than those guys, right,

1017
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: So they're gonna use the same sort of stuff you saw. Yes, well,

1018
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: he's he's played in five, he's played in five. Yes, okay,

1019
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: I see he didn't have much production in the Chicago

1020
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Goka so maybe. But he played one, nine, ten, eleven,

1021
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: and twelve. Okay, so yeah, but that in one, nine, ten, eleven,

1022
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: and twelve. Yeah, one, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, okay, never

1023
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: mind five okay, I can't count. Yeah, okay, it's okay.

1024
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: But in four of the five play twelve. What week

1025
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: are we in? We're in thirteen, We're in thirteen, never mind?

1026
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Move on. Oh gay, I'm not the best of matth

1027
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: either to either the bye week. Screw me up. But anyway,

1028
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: go ahead. Yes, he's been a terror, Yes, yes, he's

1029
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: been a terror. Um. You know what's interesting though, On

1030
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: the other side, when you when you look at Aaron Donald,

1031
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: he there's only one quarterback that he has sacked more

1032
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: times than Matthew Stafford, and that's Russell Wilson, which is

1033
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: interesting because you know you don't play Detroit but once

1034
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: a year maybe, but once every couple of years probably, right, So, well,

1035
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: how many sacks does he have on the season so far?

1036
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Fourteen fourteen and a half, fourteen and a half. If

1037
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: that guy hits you for multiple sacks, then you should

1038
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: be fired. You should have a game plan for him

1039
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: by now that We're not gonna let this guy beat us.

1040
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I mean, get the ball out as

1041
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: fast as you can, run away from him, make sure

1042
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: you turn protection to him, especially a team like Detroit.

1043
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Well, this should be a big

1044
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: day for somebody else other than ninety nine. I should

1045
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: see everybody on the line of scot What did Mike

1046
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Tyson say. Everybody's got a great plan until you get

1047
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: hunched in the mouth. But I'm just saying, if you

1048
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: allow Aaron Donald to rip you apart again after what

1049
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: you've seen the last ten weeks, you should be fired.

1050
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: You should have a plan just for him. I mean, yes,

1051
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: but like he is wrecked, people's plans that have been

1052
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: for him. If Barry Bonds hit multiple home runs in

1053
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: a game. It ain't the pitcher's fault. It's the managers. One. Yes, multiple,

1054
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: that's the manager's fault. Stop pitching of this guy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're that's fair, thank you, Okay, Yeah, it's

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00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: it's That's what I'm saying. I would I would bet

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00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: that somebody else is going to have a big day

1058
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: in Detroit because of that. So you're saying, so that's

1059
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of elements to this,

1060
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: but basically you've been saying this entire podcast that Sue

1061
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: should have a very good game against the Lions. Absolutely,

1062
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: he better, um, and I bet he's going to the

1063
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: way he played on Monday night, the way he looked

1064
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: after the game, and he's going back to Detroit. He's

1065
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: going back home. He's going back to a fan base

1066
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: that used to love him. The best way to, I guess,

1067
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: give back that love is to rip the Lions. Also,

1068
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: I do want to mention on their offense Kenny Golladay

1069
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: because I think he's having a tremendous season. A couple

1070
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: of weeks ago against the Panthers, he had that catch

1071
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: in the front right quarter of the end zone, and

1072
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: he looks like he's on his way to really being

1073
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: a star, and especially that receiving corp right now is

1074
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: fairly depleted. I feel like we can say I mean,

1075
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: from the fact that they traded Golden Tate to the

1076
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Funny, I can't say his name or it's

1077
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: hard for me to say Golden Tate without cursing. Oh,

1078
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: because of the way that he used to play the

1079
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: rounds just period. Yes, whenever I say his name, there's

1080
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: a curse world that either starts or ends it. We'll

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: have to talk about him in a couple of weeks,

1082
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: not yet, but Marvin Jones also went to injury serve

1083
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: with the knee injury. So Dolladay is really their number

1084
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: one target, like it or not. Yeah, and I think

1085
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: he's playing like it. Well yeah, what other option do

1086
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: you have if everybody's on IR or just being traded away.

1087
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Matt Stafford, you got to send

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00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: the ball somewhere. So he's the next up. So that's

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00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Whether you like it or not,

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: you're the guy. Whether you want it to be or not,

1091
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: you were the guy. I don't care what your plan

1092
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: was coming into the season. As of right now, Galladay

1093
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: is the number one receiver. Yes, yeah, he's gonna have

1094
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: to play like it. And at running back. I mean,

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00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily know what they're doing today in terms

1096
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: of their practice, but Karan Johnson did not practice on Wednesday.

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00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: He missed last week's game against the Bears with his

1098
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: tea injury. Yeah, he's tough. So if he's not going

1099
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: to play and he's been there starting back, then La

1100
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt will probably do the bulk of the carries. Yes,

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00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: So he did that against excuse me, against the Bears

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00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: last week and had two touchdowns I think eighty eight

1103
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: yards nineteen carries, and then the theoretic is basically their

1104
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: option out of the backfield on passes, so they kind

1105
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: of proba split the carries. But yeah, he's a problem.

1106
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got La Garrett Blunt, I mean,

1107
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: you still have the ability to run the football. And

1108
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: I love the way he fat guys it when he

1109
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: runs the ball like he wouldn't necessarily run you guys,

1110
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: fat guys. He won't necessarily run you over. I mean

1111
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: he will he can drop the helmet and run through you,

1112
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: but he'll just get in the scrum and lean forward. Yeah,

1113
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: and the pile just starts moving that he's that's that's

1114
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: what I mean by fat guy it. And then he said,

1115
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean he has the second effort like he did

1116
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: last week against the Bears, where it's like, oh, yeah,

1117
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: we stopped him. Oh no, no, no he didn't. He's

1118
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: in the he's in the box. And I think a

1119
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: lot of people have he's misunderstood. You might think he's

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00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: a knucklehead man. He might be one of the smartest

1121
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: offensive players out there. He is. He's great in pass protection.

1122
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: He knows where the holes are and he knows where

1123
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: the free hitter is coming from. I mean, he's he's

1124
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: like to leave on the other side. He's done this

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00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: for a long time. He's a he's an absolute pro.

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00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: All right. Well, before we let everybody go, there are

1127
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: a lot of clinching scenarios, but I think the most

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Speaker 1: important one for the Rams this week is win. Right, Yes,

1129
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: you win, you're in you clinch the division. It's great,

1130
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: but the Rams also clinched the division with a Seattle loss,

1131
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: or if the Rams and Seahawks tie, the Rams clinched

1132
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: the division. So that's something that's interesting that ever happened

1133
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: when they do these scenarios. I don't know, like when

1134
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: both teams tie. I can't remember tie in separate games

1135
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: too like that that, I don't know why we need

1136
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: we need a research person. Seattle's playing San Francisco this week,

1137
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: so I mean, I kind of expect them to win

1138
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: that game. But eight's the division. Crazy things have happened.

1139
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: So also, there are a lot of clinching scenarios if

1140
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Speaker 1: the Rams do tie, clinching a playoff berth. So there

1141
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: are five of them, right, Okay, Rams tie Washington loss

1142
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: plus Minnesota lost or tie. That's interesting. Two Rams tie

1143
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Washington lost, Carolina loss, Three Rams tie Dallas loss and

1144
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: a Minnesota loss or tie. Four Rams tie Dallas loss,

1145
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Carolina loss, or Rams tie Minnesota loss or tie Carolina.

1146
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Feel like I'm back in high school. That seemed like trigg.

1147
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: So if the train leaves the station at ten, what

1148
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: time is it? Well, they attached percentage points for probability,

1149
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: like which one is more probable? Uh not? Besides the

1150
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Rams winning? Yes, I mean well, I one that you

1151
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: just mentioned. The probability of all of any of those

1152
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: five is like ridiculous. I bet I wonder if there's

1153
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: somebody betting on that. I bet there is. I'm sure

1154
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: somebody is betting on, like the the the lowest probable

1155
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: probable outcome of this weekend. Dude, people bet on everything.

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: I know everything, all right, So that'll do it for this.

1157
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: Then you know what it's It's like sixty ish degrees.

1158
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: So yes, it is hashtag best season, best season, like

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Speaker 1: absolutely all right, everybody, thanks so much for tuning into

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Speaker 1: this edition of Between the Horns. We will see you

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Speaker 1: from Detroit first ten am game of the season Pacific time.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait. There will be televised on Fox. Will Hit

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Speaker 1: You with Rams pregame live at about nine twenty five Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Perfect with your morning coffee for DeMarco far A, Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll see you