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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Callida Health Well.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, hello everyone. We have made it to Training

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Speaker 2: Camp week twenty twenty four. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 2: you here on a Monday edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 2: And we'll get to the topic at hand, which obviously

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Speaker 2: involves training camp and the like, in just a few minutes,

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Speaker 2: but we do have to recap the weekend a little bit, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Some of us who participate on this show did attend

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Speaker 2: last Saturday's Bison's game in which Kyle Brandt was the

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Speaker 2: featured attraction Bobblehead nice which turned out pretty good. I

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Speaker 2: gotta say there was a broken table there at the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the bobblehead on the base there for the

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Speaker 2: Bills Wealvia and he told us on the show here

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Speaker 2: on Friday that he was going to do something unique

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Speaker 2: when he threw out the first pitch, and he did

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Speaker 2: do that something I have not seen before as myself,

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Speaker 2: our producer Jay Harris, along with George Bloss from our staff.

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Speaker 2: We're out there at the game with Jay's young son Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Tons of autographs as he was signing autographs before the game.

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Speaker 2: But he goes out to the mound, ball in right hand,

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Speaker 2: scepter in left hand.

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Speaker 3: And angry run scepter.

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Speaker 2: Did you do you know what he did with the

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Speaker 2: first pitch? Are you finally be told? Okay? So you

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Speaker 2: know there's this He's trying to get the crowd pumped

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Speaker 2: up and get everybody going, and uh, you know, one

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Speaker 2: of the catchers gets behind home plate ready to take

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Speaker 2: the first pitch. Everybody's watching Kyle, you know, works the

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Speaker 2: rosen bag, and he admitted he was nervous. He said,

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Speaker 2: I was nervous going out there, looks in for the sign,

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Speaker 2: shakes him off, comes back, sets, goes into the wind up,

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Speaker 2: and proceeds to launch the ball over the backstop screen

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Speaker 2: and into the stands. Which that's a new one. I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen that before.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like it. Good for you. Why why

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Speaker 3: take the chip? Throw it over the Yeah, give it,

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Speaker 3: give it a souvenir. So he's probably got enough stuff

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Speaker 3: in his house. He doesn't need a baseball first pitch

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Speaker 3: from the Bisons, Like give it to a fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. His daughter shouted playball on the mic, and then

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Speaker 2: that's it's un raised buster around the basis. First a third.

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Speaker 2: There's his wife Brooke there so it was it was

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Speaker 2: a family affair for the brands, and they did pretty

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Speaker 2: good job. I thought, this weekend so nicely done by them.

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Speaker 2: And and they drove up. I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 2: they traveled. They did the whole road trip in the

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Speaker 2: red carpet style. It was a Griswold trip. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: was totally cool. Yeah, and that's that's believe me.

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Speaker 3: I recommend that I recommend that the computers go down

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Speaker 3: across the globe. You can still drive your car.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't count on the computer giving you proper directions

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Speaker 2: from your GPS system.

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Speaker 3: Don't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you're on your own.

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Speaker 3: Look at the map, pull up the paper map. I

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Speaker 3: wonder did they even did they even sell paper maps anymore?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do, do they? You could probably

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Speaker 3: get one.

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Speaker 2: You can, I don't know. I'm trying to think, like

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Speaker 2: the last last time I was in a gas station

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Speaker 2: convenience store, I wasn't actively looking for a paper map.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you saw one? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm trying to visualized the last time I was

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Speaker 2: in a gas station convenience store, because half the time,

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Speaker 2: listen that you're just running the card at the pump.

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Speaker 2: You're not going into pay that you used to remember

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Speaker 2: back in the day when I'm a young kid, I

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Speaker 2: don't have a credit card. Every time I buy gas,

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Speaker 3: And it used to be the thing. We used to

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Speaker 3: have like three or four maps in the vehicle in

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Speaker 3: an atlas to begin with the big the big one,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then a state by state.

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on a second here, I got to stop you.

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Speaker 2: There in Kansas where there are about seven main artery roads,

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Speaker 2: you needed an atlas.

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Speaker 3: There's not seven, there's like three three first of all, well.

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Speaker 2: Even more so an atlas was necessary.

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Speaker 3: No, not there. Okay, it's like, you don't need an atlas.

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Speaker 3: You don't need an atlas for your neighborhood, right, you

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying that whole state though, is it? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're not riddled with thoroughfares.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't need you don't need an atlas for Kansas.

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Speaker 2: More farms than ROAs it's in Kansas, I would think.

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Speaker 3: You've got way more farms than paved roads.

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Speaker 2: I know that, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now there's a lot of roads there.

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Speaker 2: Road anyway back to the store. You had an atlas,

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Speaker 3: List, and yeah, a city map or and sometimes later

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Speaker 3: on they put the big cities on the like the

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Speaker 3: others half of the map, right, you flip it over

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Speaker 3: and on the.

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Speaker 2: Back is like the closest metropolitan Kansas city.

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Speaker 3: On the front is the entire state of Missouri or

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Speaker 3: Kansas or whatever what have you. Yes, that's correct, And

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Speaker 3: you couldn't You don't leave without it. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 3: leave without it. You gotta you gotta have it because

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Speaker 3: it's you think about it now. It couldn't be easier.

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Speaker 3: And we did it all day yesterday. I was doing

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Speaker 3: some volunteer work yesterday afternoon. You just popped it. You

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Speaker 3: just opened maps, tell me where to go here it

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Speaker 3: is boo like six point thirty two made up street

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Speaker 3: and it pops up go and directions to go. It

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Speaker 2: Estimated time of arrival as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to take you seven minutes to get there,

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Speaker 3: four minutes to get there. All that. We drove all

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Speaker 3: over downtown Buffalo yesterday and it was It couldn't have

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Speaker 3: been easier. You know, the hardest part is getting If

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Speaker 3: you have like nine in destinations, which we did yesterday

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Speaker 3: that's but that's come on, mass child GPS. Now it's

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Speaker 2: With the GPS.

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Speaker 2: I have officially turned into my dad because when I

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Speaker 2: So if we have to stop for gas and fill up,

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Speaker 2: now I've lost about four or five minutes, I am

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Speaker 2: trying like the dickens to make up that time to

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of the same way, except that except that

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter whether I know the original time or not.

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Speaker 2: Well that the initial goal is to get back to

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Speaker 2: the original Yes, and then if you can hack off

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Speaker 2: two or three more minutes, you know, you pull into

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Speaker 3: Make goodness about three minutes three minutes. That's what you're

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Speaker 3: That thing is deathly accurate on the money, is starting

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Speaker 3: the money. So that's kind of that's yeah. So the

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Speaker 3: road trip. Kyle Branton's family come across from They live

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Speaker 3: in just Nornectic City or just north of the city.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this, I grow up out west, as

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Speaker 3: it is. It's kind of a lot of cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: The Rocky Mountains are out there. Uh. And I've spent

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Speaker 3: a lot of time out there. I've spent time in

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Speaker 3: obviously Kansas and driving west from Chicago where I went

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Speaker 3: you something, in the in the highways and byways of

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Speaker 3: New York State, there is more stuff to do and

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Speaker 3: I mean, my kids just did that.

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Speaker 2: Just off the top of my head. Middle of the

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Speaker 3: So you're going everything out I'm talking about anything from

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Speaker 3: from Chicago west to Denver, Okay, Denver's Denver's a little

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Speaker 3: east of the no It's it's west of the of

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Speaker 3: the Mount Rushmore. That's one. Yellowstone is probably the next

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Speaker 3: biggest thing out there, because I'll say this, I grew

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Speaker 2: A lot of flat ground. We know that from driving

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Speaker 2: to the company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It is interchangeable. It is a lot

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Speaker 3: of What state is this Indiana? Okay? What state is this? Uh, Kansas?

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Speaker 3: What state in Nebraska? The Yeah, yeah, South Dakota, it's vacant.

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Speaker 2: Talking talking to one of our former Bills scouts one time,

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Speaker 2: Brad Forsyke. They used to work the plane the upper

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Speaker 2: just doing a story on the scouting profession and all

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Speaker 2: of this stuff, and I'm talking to him, interviewing him,

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Speaker 2: and he goes, I'm just gonna tell you, if there's

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Speaker 2: anybody in this country that thinks we have an overpopulation problem, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they haven't driven. He goes, they haven't driven to the

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Speaker 2: places I have. He said, there are times where I

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Speaker 3: That's correct, Like eight I was like eight hours my wheelhouse. Dude,

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Speaker 3: you go west to Chicago and like do west, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you can keep driving. Okay, you can keep driving.

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Speaker 3: Kept they go west, young man, They kept go wester,

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Speaker 3: keep going, keep going, just keep going because sooner it

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Speaker 3: just keep going because there is nothing between you and

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Speaker 3: the Pacific and until you get the Rockies, til you

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Speaker 3: get the Mountain mountains. And I'll say this too, the

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Speaker 3: Rockies come out of nowhere, they all of them. Dude.

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Speaker 3: I grew up like four hours east of the Rockies.

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Speaker 3: You can't see them until you're like an hour east

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Speaker 3: of them. So you drive three hours west and there

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Speaker 3: you see them on the map. There they're on the map.

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Speaker 3: You can see you can't see them. There's finally they're.

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Speaker 3: Oh here they are. It's you drive right up on them.

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Speaker 3: Because it looks it is desolate out there until you

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Speaker 3: get to there. It's unbelievable. And we talk Calgary, Canada,

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Speaker 3: the wonderful city. Love it been up there. Calgary is

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Speaker 3: like an hour east of the front range of the

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Speaker 3: Rockies in Canada, and it's it sits in the middle

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Speaker 2: The whole city, the northern plains.

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Speaker 3: It's a made I don't know what they were. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I guess it's an oil county whatever. I mean.

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Speaker 3: There's yeah, calgaryes Calgary is a cow town pretty so, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's The kids took the field trip, the road trip

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Speaker 3: this last summer, both both families. They were in Independent

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Speaker 3: doing all this other stuff. The world's largest golf tee,

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Speaker 3: the world's largest mailbox. They stopped at the Saint Louis

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Speaker 3: City Museum. Yeah. Yeah, then my son hit it big.

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Speaker 3: I went to community college in Dodge City, the real

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Speaker 3: have dinner and see a gunfight on front Street. One

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Speaker 3: Two is moving up and they're trying to stay less.

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Speaker 2: upset about something they actually do something, you know, picketing

436
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Speaker 2: the stadium or something. I am fascinated to see how that.

437
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Speaker 3: And as a Bills fan, if you don't like to

438
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Speaker 3: and if you think what Brownie and I do about him,

439
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: that he's just he's barely he's limited. Yes, he's limited.

440
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Speaker 3: You hope the Dolphins do sign him to this deal

441
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Speaker 3: because that just hamstrings them at some point, even if

442
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: they even if they see a massage. It as much

443
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Speaker 3: as they can. That money is still off their cap.

444
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to buy a good roster.

445
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Speaker 3: They're gonna have over twenty percent, maybe twenty a bunch

446
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Speaker 3: of money tied up into like three guys Waddle, Tyreek

447
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Speaker 3: and Tua. That's gonna be a big chunk of.

448
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Speaker 2: Their counter twenty five million dollar contract for Chubb.

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Speaker 3: There you go. I mean they're gonna be They're gonna

450
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Speaker 3: have like four guys on their roster making eighty percent

451
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Speaker 3: of the money.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what they're looking at right now.

453
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Speaker 2: I think that's what they're looking at because you gotta help, Listen,

454
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Speaker 2: how do we make that work. We don't want to

455
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Speaker 2: end up like the Saints, who are finally paying the piper.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be bad for a while. The Saints. They

457
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Speaker 2: don't have money for anybody.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's like they kicked that can down the road. Well

460
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Speaker 2: they hit the detour kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah the bridge is out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah the bridge is out, and your car doesn't have

463
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Speaker 2: any brakes. You're going right into the ravine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they did it to themselves, and I'm you know,

465
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Speaker 3: you knew it was gonna happen, and they pushed it

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Speaker 3: off forever and ever and ever. They just kept pushing it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think how the season ended last year for

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins played a role in why they are sitting

469
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Speaker 2: here where they are right now, because I gotta believe

470
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Speaker 2: if they go to the playoffs as division champion and

471
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Speaker 2: win a playoff game, I think he already has an extension.

472
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think how the season ended is playing a role

475
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Speaker 2: in this organization trying to make a call on what to.

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Speaker 3: Was for whatever reason, for whatever reason last year, and

477
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Speaker 3: with a roster that was we thought was really good,

478
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Speaker 3: even out here in Buffalo, we thought their roster was

479
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Speaker 3: really good. Tua didn't do enough right it. Tua didn't

480
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Speaker 3: do enough, Not Tyreek, not Jalen wall Well, not the defense,

481
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Speaker 3: none of that. Tua didn't do enough. Now, they made

482
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Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator change again this year, but that third

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Speaker 3: straight year that's new. That's a problem. It's a problem.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could say the same thing about the Bills,

485
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Speaker 2: but the Bill's defensive system hasn't changed. Leslie Fraser, Sean McDermott,

486
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Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage, same system, different guy potentially calling it again

487
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Speaker 2: this year. But the Dolphins changed coordinators and systems each

488
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Speaker 2: of the last three years, so there's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: learning curve there. And speaking of the Dolphins, they had

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Speaker 2: an unexpected retirement announcement over the weekend. Shaq Barrett, who

491
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Speaker 2: was one of Miami's free agent signings this offseason, signed

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Speaker 2: them away from Tampa to help offset the long rehab

493
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Speaker 2: of Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips coming off season ending

494
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Speaker 2: injuries and will not be ready at the start of

495
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Speaker 2: the season. He decided to retire from football over the weekend.

496
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Speaker 2: So now free agent pass rushers are flocking to Miami

497
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Speaker 2: with this void on their roster, and Yanika Goakway was

498
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Speaker 2: scheduled to work out for the Dolphins today. He's still

499
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Speaker 2: a free agent. The Dolphins did draft a pair of

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Speaker 2: pass rushers, obviously, we all remember Chop Robinson in Round

501
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Speaker 2: one and then Mohammed Kamara later in the draft, but

502
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Speaker 2: they didn't want to lean on them too heavily right away. Now,

503
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Speaker 2: depending on whether they getting Gakway in the fold or

504
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Speaker 2: some other veteran, they may have to Chop Robinson and

505
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Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamarro looking at a lot of snaps right out

506
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Speaker 2: of the shoot here because Chubb and Phillips are not

507
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Speaker 2: expected to be ready week one, maybe not even week two,

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Speaker 2: three or four.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Miami's waiting on a handful of guys to

510
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Speaker 3: come back off the injury list, you know, Phillips as well,

511
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Speaker 3: so over there on the defensive side. So I don't

512
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Speaker 3: know what, Yeah, it's a mess. It seems like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, having a guy retire is not a mess.

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Speaker 2: Well at this stage of the game. I mean there's

515
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Speaker 2: still enough times before the beginning of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But it's definitely a curve.

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Speaker 3: Ball right now. Yeah, it's a little, but it's just

518
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Speaker 3: it's more of them.

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Speaker 2: He thought about training camp and said, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I forget it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can laugh. It's true. It takes. I mean

522
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Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, really no, I'm done. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 3: I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I've got enough money exactly. The other AFC's news, Aaron

525
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Speaker 2: Rodgers has finally tried to explain why he missed mandatory

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Speaker 2: mini camp in June with the Jets, and as we know,

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Speaker 2: he had a quote unquote prior commitment. Appearing on the

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Speaker 2: Pardon My Take podcast, Rogers said the following quote the

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Speaker 2: thing that people don't understand was that when I was

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Speaker 2: in the NFC North years ago, there used to be

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Speaker 2: a real thing called mini camp where it was five

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Speaker 2: practices in three days. Now it's not mini camp. They

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Speaker 2: can arbitrarily put a tag on whatever week of OTAs

534
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Speaker 2: they want and say this is the mini camp week,

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Speaker 2: which makes it more mandatory than the other weeks. But

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Speaker 2: it was an OTA schedule. That's how words can be

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Speaker 2: a little deceiving. From time to time. It can make

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Speaker 2: a story about how I missed a mini camp when

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Speaker 2: it was really two OTA days. I came to the

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Speaker 2: first ten. If that doesn't sound like a third grader trying.

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Speaker 3: To I don't know what is there was no I didn't.

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Speaker 3: It was I didn't miss ot as. I didn't miss

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Speaker 3: a mini camp. I miss ot a that I went

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Speaker 3: to ten of them that were called OTAs. But when

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Speaker 3: the other three.

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Speaker 2: Guy still doesn't get it. You are the leader of

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Speaker 2: your football team. It's a mandatory mini camp. You go.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The quarterback, for God's sake.

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Speaker 3: Here's the the interesting part about it, say is and

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Speaker 3: you said it? When he says he tried to explain

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Speaker 3: why he missed mandatory. Why, that's right. He didn't even

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Speaker 3: go into why he wasn't there. It didn't matter because

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Speaker 3: it was an ota sto. Yeah. So he still doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to say and I get it. It's his personal business.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to tell anybody. But you know, he's

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Speaker 3: told weirder stuff than this about what he was doing

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Speaker 3: in his free time. So I don't know what. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a weird. It's a weird.

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Speaker 2: I just think he lives in an alternate he does.

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Speaker 3: He just said he guess listen, I didn't miss mini

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Speaker 3: camp because it wasn't a mini camp. It was an

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Speaker 3: O t A. That was not what I remem It

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Speaker 3: was called a mini camp, but it wasn't really a

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Speaker 3: mini camp and mandatory.

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Speaker 2: Guess what it was really mandatory. Knowing the jets, they

567
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Speaker 2: probably turtled and didn't find him. No, that's another story

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Speaker 2: they did. Oh that's right. Yeah, Sala said that he

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Speaker 2: was going to be.

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Speaker 3: Fine, which is yeah. I'm yeah, who knows what this

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Speaker 3: was about? He did something. And I'll say this too,

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Speaker 3: I bet you a guy like Rogers, you don't miss

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Speaker 3: mandatory mini camps for something you didn't get paid to do.

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Speaker 2: He had a chance to make a whole lot more money,

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Speaker 2: far outweighed whatever fining.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I imagine that's it was something along those lines.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe not. Maybe the guy was, you know,

578
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Speaker 3: in a in a tent on a mountain side somewhere,

579
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Speaker 3: just you know, watching the sunrise and sunset. I don't know,

580
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: but it's been my experience when guys like that do

581
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Speaker 3: that on the tea, it's it's there's getting paid, and

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Speaker 3: they're getting paid a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: A topic of discussion for you today, though, concerns the

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Speaker 2: Bills and training camp. What do you think should be

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Speaker 2: the Bill's immediate focus when camp opens this week? First

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Speaker 2: practice is on Wednesday, Will of course be out there

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Speaker 2: doing our show live from training camp at Saint John

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Speaker 2: Fisher College. What do you think should be the Bill's

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Speaker 2: immediate focus when camp opens this week? Eight oh three

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty those are the numbers to get on board.

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Speaker 2: We've got open lines for you there. We'll go to

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Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return. Got to take a

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Speaker 2: break here, but Ron and Virginia Tom on the west side,

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Speaker 2: they'll lead us off when we come back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live. On a

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Speaker 2: Monday of Training camp week, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you,

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Speaker 2: and in case you didn't hear us earlier, Steve and

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Speaker 2: I'll be broadcasting live out of training camp starting on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: right after the first practice session at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 2: But we go to the phones at eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty where we are asking you today what

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Speaker 2: do you think should be the Bill's immediate focus when

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Speaker 2: camp opens this week? We lead off today with Ron

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Speaker 2: down in Virginia. What do you got for us? Ron?

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Speaker 7: And Chris, Hey, Steve, I appreciate you guys. That's on.

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Speaker 7: I speak with you. First of all, I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to answer the question. It's just a statement. I think

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen is, you know, not getting his dudes. I

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Speaker 7: think he should be the MVP. Lamar got it twice,

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Speaker 7: Patrick got it once, and Josh Leed's in a lot

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Speaker 7: of categories and I don't see why people are hating

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Speaker 7: on Josh. And just a little thing, if I may,

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Speaker 7: on Steph Diggs, I think that a lot of people

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Speaker 7: spoke Deigs out of Buffalo, and that's what I feel.

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Speaker 7: I think that they you know, words are powerful, and

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Speaker 7: I think they did not want to leave, but people

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Speaker 7: spoke it out. If you keep putting stuff out there

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Speaker 7: will eventually happen. Thank you very much to honest speak

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Speaker 7: with you guys, and how listen to what you guys

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Speaker 7: have to say.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Ron, appreciate it, and thanks for calling too.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, I mean, there's always going to Josh.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to find a guy who was drafted as

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Speaker 3: high as Josh was, or wherever he was that wasn't

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Speaker 3: as polarizing as Josh. You got people who are sold

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Speaker 3: out for him on his side, love him, think the

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Speaker 3: world of him, and the others who just think he well.

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Speaker 3: The only thing nowadays is he turns it over too much.

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Speaker 3: He's just too reckless. He's too da da da da

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Speaker 3: da whatever you want to say it, talk about it.

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Speaker 3: And that's the narrative nationally about how about Josh. And

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Speaker 3: let's face, people are lazy. They don't want to go

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Speaker 3: in and watch film. They don't want to go in

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Speaker 3: and dissect the numbers. They don't want to go in

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Speaker 3: and pull it apart, and they just.

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Speaker 2: Want to focus on the negative, right or or they're

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Speaker 2: just or.

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Speaker 3: They like the other guy plays for their team. They

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Speaker 3: want to you know, they're promoting him. So I get

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Speaker 3: the stuff about Josh, but it's rare. And I'll say

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Speaker 3: this too. Josh is a big target and a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams, other fan bases hate on Josh because he's

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Speaker 3: the guy that makes them look like they don't know

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Speaker 3: what they're talking about. He's the guy they don't talk

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Speaker 3: about like this to Justin Herbert. They don't talk like

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Speaker 3: this about c. J. Stroud. They don't talk like this

651
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: about other court like Jalen Hurts or all these other

652
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks because they aren't as good as Josh. They

653
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: they have to talk like this about Josh because he's

654
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: the guy that makes their quarterback look like a chump.

655
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: That's why Josh gets hated on. He's the guy that

656
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: looks better than their guy and they have to justify it.

657
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: And concerning MVP chances, Ron, I think you can make

658
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: the argument that with the with the perception nationally now

659
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: that the Bills have nothing left to lean on at receiver.

660
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: If these if this Bill's team does what he usually does,

661
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: qualifies for the playoffs, makes a nice run, and Josh's

662
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: his normal productive self. I think his stats will be

663
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: viewed more positively because the prevailing narrative the last four

664
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: years was, well, he's got Steph Diggs to lean on,

665
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: and you know, Gabe Davis makes big plays for me

666
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: every once in a while, and you know, he doesn't

667
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: have to do too much. And then there's another narrative

668
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: out there, Oh, they're asking Josh to do too much. Well,

669
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: now you don't have Steph Diggs here anymore. What's your

670
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: excuse for Josh's production if he puts up another thirty

671
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: eight thirty nine touchdown season, you know, or over forty

672
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: touchdowns touch counting his rushing scores. So you know, I

673
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: think if you want, if you're pining for Josh to

674
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: be in the running for MVP, I think this is

675
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: as good a year as any because Diggs is not

676
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: here anymore. You know, there isn't a true number one

677
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: receiver on the roster as it stands right now. One

678
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: may emerge, but right now they're one. So nationally people

679
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: may look more favorably on Josh's production because of that.

680
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this too about Steph Diggs and

681
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: being spoken in, you know, his absence being spoken into

682
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: existence by the fans.

683
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I can get all

684
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: the way there.

685
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: I can't get all the way because that's a two

686
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: way street. Steph didn't make it easy to love him.

687
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Well, we're not gonna We're not going to be able

688
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: to see or know all the things that's right behind

689
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: closed doors. Steph was a very shrewd, forward facing player

690
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: when he addressed the media and was in the public eye,

691
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: playing catch with fans in the stands before the game,

692
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: saying all the right things at press conferences. Clearly, I

693
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: think the situation was a little bit different behind closed doors,

694
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: because a team doesn't jettison a player of that caliber

695
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: and take a sizeable cap hit in the process unless there's.

696
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: Good reason that's right. But I think I think most

697
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: of those reasons were economic. I think they could see

698
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: it coming down the road where they were going to

699
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: be in a spot where perhaps they had either justified

700
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: not signing a productive, good player to an extension. If

701
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: he did have another sit which he was gonna He's

702
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: gonna play well for the Texan's, no question about it.

703
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: But there's no question they weren't going to sign him

704
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: to a two year even deal. No way, a four

705
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: year deal, but not a two year deal even so.

706
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: I think they felt like the end of his career

707
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: was coming faster than the end of his contract, and

708
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: or at least their ability to hang on to him

709
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: until the end of his productivity and not have to

710
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: pay him further. They just said, let's bite the bullet. Now.

711
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 3: This draft is neck deep and really good players will

712
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: be able to get him and replace him. Let's take

713
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: the let's take the hit now. I think it was

714
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: a business decision. I don't think there's anybody in this

715
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: building who hates Steph Diggs guts wish is glad he's

716
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: not on the team. They liked him. He was a

717
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: very productive player for him and certainly why he might

718
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: have had his he might have been, you know, a

719
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: handful with his personality as big as it was and

720
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: as fun as it was and all of that. I

721
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: think it was a business and economic decision. And I'll

722
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: say this too as far as far as fans speaking

723
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: it into existence, Hey voice, Steph had a voice in

724
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: that as well. I mean, he was he was always

725
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: the guy that was putting out the tweets. He was

726
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: always the guy that was not putting things to bed

727
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: on social media. He was the guy that kept.

728
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: It stirred ups.

729
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: He kind of stoked it. So say what you want.

730
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: You may some of it may be right, but not

731
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: all of it. Some of it was on the player,

732
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: and I don't think he had a problem with that.

733
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: I think that he enjoyed doing it. I don't think

734
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: I think he had reasons for doing it. So I

735
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: think both this is one of those times when a

736
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: great player leaves a franchise and both sides just thinking,

737
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: you know what, it was great, Thanks, we'll see you later.

738
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any hard feelings on either side.

739
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: Let's jump back on the phones and go to Tom

740
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: on the west side. What's up Tom?

741
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, gentlemen, how are you on this fine day?

742
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Oh? Ready? Ready to roll?

743
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: Man?

744
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: It's go time?

745
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, training camps around the corner first to finish off Ron.

746
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: The reason people hate on Josh is the same reason

747
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: we all hate on ma Holmes, because he's the guy

748
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: we got to beat. And as far as Diggs goes,

749
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: Steve just made a valid point that I was going

750
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: to bring up about X formerly Twitter, but his brother

751
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: was involved in that too. So now to answer your

752
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: question for the day. And then I got one more

753
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: thing the question of the day, the starters and the backups.

754
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 4: But it's primarily in the defensive backfield, and on offense,

755
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 4: it's going to be the wide receivers because they got

756
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: to figure out the depth chart there and we got

757
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: a bunch of new guys, so we're good at defensive line.

758
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 4: We got a lot of carryovers. Linebacker, tight ends, quarterback,

759
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: running back, tight We're good. We're good now. The other day,

760
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: my son was at last week. He was asking me

761
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: about the salary cap and I knew the bills used

762
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: to be in purgatory and everybody's always talking about it.

763
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: But we're like fifteenth when I looked it up, which

764
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: is right about the middle of the pack. So how

765
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 4: much of that is what we shed this year versus

766
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 4: what carried over from last year or prior years before that,

767
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: and then how much of it is going to carry

768
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: over in the next year.

769
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, right now, what you got, Tom is about seven

770
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: and a half in cap space, and that's kind of

771
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: the cushion that Brandon Bean probably would like to go into.

772
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: The season with knowing that if injuries striker, there's a

773
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: rash of injuries at one position, he has the financial

774
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: maneuverability to bring in a player on the street. That's first.

775
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: As far as next year, the cap situation figures to

776
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: be better. I'm not going to pretend to know what

777
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: it is off the top of my head, so I'll

778
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: check it real quick. And what I'm seeing here is

779
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: the bills are projected. You know, they're projected to be

780
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: over the cap at least right now with their current contracts. Now,

781
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: all that being said, there's there's a way to get

782
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: out from under von Miller's contract. I would anticipate with

783
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Josh's giant cap number after restructuring this offseason, is going

784
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: to get a new contract because his cap hit next

785
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: year is like sixty four million dollars or something, so

786
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: they're going to have to redo his deal to create

787
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: some cap space. So I expect him to get a

788
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 2: brand new contract. I don't think they're going to restructure

789
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: it again. They're just going to give him a brand

790
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: new deal and stretch it out. So while the cap

791
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: number looks bad right now, it's for those reasons primarily.

792
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: And then We'll have to wait and see what it

793
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: looks like and whether they decide to sign Greg Russo

794
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: to a contract extension, to Spencer Brown get a contract extension,

795
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: people like that. So it's something that'll have to be examined,

796
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: But I think it's not something you worry about now

797
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: because it's a moving target. Number one and number two,

798
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: there are some very simple exercises that can be performed

799
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: by the front office to create far more cap space

800
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: than they currently appear to have at this moment.

801
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: One of the things that I was just checking out

802
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: right now, there's only one team with more dead cap

803
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: space than Buffalo listed here, and that's Denver. They've got

804
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: Denver's got sixty seven million in dead cap space. Bills

805
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: have sixty one. There's a couple of teams in the fifties,

806
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: but they're they're the highest dead cap because of what

807
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: you did with Diggs, because it digs right. So that

808
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: will go back on the books next year, but that's

809
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: already been offset by some of the contracts they're going

810
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: to start ballooning here with the extensions they've already signed.

811
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but more of your

812
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return We'll lead off with Andrew

813
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: and West Seneca and get to others holding at eight

814
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: h three oh five fifty here on One Bill's Live.

815
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: Stay with all right back here on One Bill's Live

816
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you, and

817
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: the discussion at hand concerns what you think should be

818
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: the Bill's immediate focus when camp opens this week eight

819
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty to jump on board. But

820
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: we go to Andrew in West Seneca. What do you

821
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: got for? Is Andrew?

822
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: Okay, what's up? Guys?

823
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 8: I'll branish off with this. Did comment real quick? I mean,

824
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 8: you guys got to stop sugar coating this dig thing.

825
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 8: It was a toxic person in the room. I went

826
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 8: to high school with someone actually that was on the

827
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 8: Bills practice squad. Explain how Diggs was just a major

828
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 8: distraction at locker room, always gotten allen space and stuff

829
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 8: like that. Shout out, what's not like an East high

830
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 8: school on that one. But the real, real, real reason

831
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 8: why I called in was, you know, you know, second

832
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 8: part of how far are the Bills behind? With these

833
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 8: classic jerseys? Every NFL team is a classic jersey release

834
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 8: were of the nineties built. I'm sick of this red

835
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 8: and blue game. Allen runs out of the tonnel. He's

836
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 8: in a helmet. I mean, the show's what we want,

837
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 8: give the people what we want. Immediate focus.

838
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: You know, you know what I mean.

839
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 8: I mean, come on.

840
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, I got go ahead.

841
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 8: Yeah, that part immediate focus. Honestly, no, it is really

842
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 8: really dialing in this defense. We now have a defensive coordinator.

843
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 8: It's not it's not a Germott anymore. I'm just really

844
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 8: curious on how he's gonna have the defense uh shaping

845
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 8: up here this season. So I'll hang up and listen.

846
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 9: Guys.

847
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That that is a big question. You

848
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: got a new coordinator, things are gonna look different. Yeah,

849
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm totally with you. That's gonna be an

850
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 3: interesting take. I want to see if Bob Babbage can

851
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: convince Sean mcdermom to give him the play duty Blake

852
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: calling duties. That's big, that's really big. I think I.

853
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: Think it'll take all through the preseason to see if

854
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: it'll happen. You know, and ask for Diggs. I didn't

855
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: think I was sugarcoating it. Basically, what I said was,

856
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: if you make a decision to take an enormous cap

857
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: pit and eat money in a year where you're strapped

858
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: for cap room. To me, that's a signal of something.

859
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: So that's where I left it.

860
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Yeah, and I'll say this too, Yeah,

861
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: no problem, no question. I'm not going to dispute what

862
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: you say. The other guy said on the practice squad player. Yeah,

863
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: there's there's always those guys in the locker room. I

864
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: don't know that Diggs was outlandish or anything like that.

865
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, we weren't there.

866
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: We weren't there. Somebody might have told you something that

867
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm not aware of. That's fine. But I know this.

868
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: I know this. There was never any rumblings even here

869
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: in the building that the guy was No question, he

870
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: was a big personality and they had to and they

871
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: tolerated a lot from him in his big personality because

872
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: of how he played. But I don't know that there

873
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: was any boiling hatred or ready to get get him

874
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: out of there, that kind of thing. But I do

875
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: know this. It says a lot when nobody on the

876
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: bills or Digs himself or the coaching staff, there was

877
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: no didn't seem like anybody was standing on the table

878
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: pounding for the guy to stay, not that he was unhappy.

879
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like he was unhappy to leave either,

880
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: which is just as telling. I don't know what all

881
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: that means. We may never know the full extent of it.

882
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: But I think everybody, every yeah, I think everybody said

883
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: to high road and move on, Yes, exactly.

884
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, Digs might have worn out as welcome, but

885
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: they never said. They never kicked him to the curb

886
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: and said it's you know, get it out. They've they've

887
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: traded him. He was ready to be traded. It seems

888
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: like he knew it was coming. There was nothing backstabbing

889
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: about it. So I'm not This to me is the

890
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: dynamics of a pro football team when you got great

891
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: players who who want to be, who want to be

892
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: in a situation and in another situation or a different situation,

893
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: that may be Josh Allen or or it could have

894
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: been Joe Brady, it could have been Brandon Bean or

895
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott, h and it could have been and I'm

896
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 3: sure it was a little bit of those Digs. Any

897
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: one of or all of those people might have been

898
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: in there going listen, we need to change here, you know, this, this, that,

899
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: and the other.

900
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 2: Oh, they already chanted. This roster turned over a lot

901
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: in more than just that place. It's changed in a

902
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: lot of different places. Like the older part of this roster,

903
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: the older cores was washed through and was gone from

904
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: them and got younger.

905
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: Trey White, Mitch Morris, Micah and Jordan Poyer and Hyde,

906
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: all those guys are gone. Those are fours and digs.

907
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: Those are four really important names to this roster.

908
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: All of them are thirty years old or older.

909
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: So it just seems like they're trying to refresh and

910
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 3: get ready to be a little bit more energetic. For

911
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: a lack of a better way to put.

912
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: It, Let's go to Mark and west Senecon next. What's

913
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: up Mark?

914
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how are you today?

915
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Good?

916
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 4: That's good?

917
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 10: A couple of things real quick. As far as what

918
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 10: they need to focus on, I would get right at it.

919
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 10: First day camp seven on seven we got things that

920
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 10: we got to figure out on both sides, receiver and

921
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 10: defensive backfield. So get at it and see what we got.

922
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 10: Question real quick, did you guys have any indication where

923
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 10: Milano is at? Is he going to be even partially active?

924
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 10: At the beginning of camp, is any indication been given?

925
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 10: And then lastly, the DIGS thing, he was obviously jettisoned.

926
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 10: What the reason was, whether it was amicable and all that,

927
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 10: Who cares, he's gone, Let's move on. I think he

928
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 10: really was setting himself up though, when he got down

929
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 10: to Houston and he had those avoided years taking off

930
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 10: his contract. I believe he's going to be there one

931
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 10: year and then he's going to be in Dallas. He

932
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 10: wants to play with his brother, thinking he's setting that

933
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 10: up at the end of his career to be able

934
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 10: to do that because he couldn't wait much longer. How

935
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 10: old is he now? Thirty one going on thirty two?

936
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 7: Is that what it is this year?

937
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 10: Thirty one? So he's got maybe two good years left maybe,

938
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 10: So I think that's what he's doing. He's setting himself

939
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 10: up for that.

940
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, thanks Mark Bills, Go Bills. Look, there's no

941
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: definitive stuff on Milana, but I think we can at

942
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: least draw from the fact that he participated on a

943
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: limited basis in Mini camp a month ago. That would

944
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: indicate he's going to participate in some capacity, hopefully even

945
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: more than he did in Mini Camp at the outset

946
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: of training camp. What we heard coach McDermott say when

947
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: he last addressed the media was that we'll have to

948
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: wait and see if he is day after day after

949
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: day participating. Is he in every other day participant as

950
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: they ramp him back up to full scale duty. It's

951
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: a wait and see right now. But I would anticipate

952
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: that Coach McDermott's going to be asked about that in

953
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: his first press conference at training camp on Wednesday, so

954
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: that's when we'll get the new update. But I saw

955
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: him in the weight room this morning and he's in

956
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: good spirits. So hopefully it's onward and upward from here

957
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: for Milaia.

958
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I fully anticipate in being back on the field

959
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: at some point, whether it's a slow I think it's

960
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: and I do believe it'll be opening day. He'll be

961
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: ready now, whether it's a slow ramp up, no pre whatever,

962
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's I think that's what in my experience,

963
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: the team and he would focus on. They don't care

964
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: if he's an ota. I mean, he's gonna be there

965
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 3: and we're going through me and they don't care if

966
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: the guy's out there taking reps. First day of training camp.

967
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: What they care about is can he get ramped up

968
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks in the lead up to

969
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: Day one at home against Arizona. Can he be ready

970
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: both mentally and physically on that day and however long

971
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: they think that's gonna take, that's what it's gonna be.

972
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's squeeze in Mike in Mississippi here before the break.

973
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: What's up, Mike?

974
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for making my long drive a lot

975
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 9: more enjoyable. Happen to help before I look at. The

976
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 9: two things that I'm gonna be looking for at Wednesday

977
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 9: is I just want to throw something in on Josh's defense.

978
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 9: Number One, If you take away the free i iNTS

979
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 9: and that horrible first game, do you realize he was

980
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 9: only one interception away more than Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, yeah, that,

981
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 9: and nobody brought that up. The other thing is if

982
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 9: you look at his postseason record, they're all talking about

983
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 9: he turns the ball over, yet he's thrown over twenty

984
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 9: touchdown passes with only four i iNTS. So I think

985
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 9: this is a lot of just garbage talk about one

986
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 9: of the greatest quarterbacks ever. But what I'm gonna be

987
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 9: looking for this Wednesday is how the old and the

988
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 9: new are gonna plug into the front seven. And by

989
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 9: that I mean it Von Miller and Cole Bishop. If

990
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 9: we can get that young guy in there, and if

991
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 9: von Miller can come back the way he was before

992
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 9: he got hurt, we're going to be really in really,

993
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 9: really good shape. All Right, those are my two guys

994
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be looking at.

995
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean,

996
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: Milano and Miller are the two veterans that everybody's gonna

997
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: have eyeballs on to see do they look like the

998
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: old Milano and the old Miller? And then after that

999
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 2: it's who's filling the roles that were left behind by

1000
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 2: the household names that are no longer on the roster.

1001
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: We've said this before, Steve Cole Bishop is an amazing talent.

1002
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any debate about that. But he

1003
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: has said in interviews through the course of the spring,

1004
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: this is a completely new defense for him than the

1005
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: one he played at Utah. Utah was almost exclusively man coverage,

1006
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: and that's what he played. This is a far different defense,

1007
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: and that's his description, not ours. And knowing the importance

1008
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: of the safety position in this defense and knowing the

1009
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: coaching staff's tendency to lean on veterans in important roles

1010
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: more than rookies. I think he's gonna have to outplay

1011
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: and outperform Mike Edwards and or Taylor rapped to a

1012
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: great degree to be the starter in week one. I'm

1013
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: not saying it can't happen, but maybe it's week six, seven,

1014
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: or eight, not week one, two or three.

1015
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: Right, I would agree with everything Brownie said. I'm now

1016
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: we've seen it done. Christian Benford did it, yep, Matt

1017
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 3: Malano did it.

1018
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Playing corners a little different than playing safety.

1019
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: Greg Russou did it. And you know Todavius White did

1020
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: it back in the day. But then that's when it

1021
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: was a roster of guys, you know, as a drought roster.

1022
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: So we've seen it happen and it could and it

1023
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: will be interesting to get feedback and see where Cole

1024
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Bishop grows and how fast it happens, because that's what

1025
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: it's all about. And young players for the most part,

1026
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 3: have to prove to the coaching staffs of every NFL

1027
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: team that they get drafted to what they had to

1028
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: do is prove they got it mentally they wouldn't get

1029
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: drafted if they didn't have physically.

1030
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: It's all about trust.

1031
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: It's all about being where you're supposed to be when

1032
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be there. If your safety be over

1033
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: the top, you know what I'm saying. You got to

1034
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: know the ins and outs, the x's and o's, and

1035
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: once you prove you've got that, then the coaches will

1036
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: plug you in quick quick. That's that's what's going to

1037
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: happen for cole Bishop, Keon Coleman and the rest of

1038
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: the rookies.

1039
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, our

1040
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: number two is going to begin with our good friend

1041
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: from ESPN, NFL analyst Lewis Riddick going to join us.

1042
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 2: He is bullish on the Bills and on their top

1043
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: draft choice. Keon Coleman will let him explain when we

1044
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: return here on One Bills Live presented by Colida Health.

1045
00:53:46,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1046
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

1047
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: All right, back here for hour number two on a Monday,

1048
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tamsker with you here on One Bill's Live.

1049
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Please to be joined now by ESPN NFL analyst Lewis

1050
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: Riddick here, who is going to be part of ESPN's

1051
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: Back Together Saturday coverage on Saturday, as training camp is

1052
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 2: going to be in full force by then. It kind

1053
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: of gets started midweek around the league, but you guys

1054
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: will be all over it on the ESPN side of things.

1055
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: So Lewis, thanks for making some time for us on

1056
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: what's going to shape up to get to be a

1057
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: really busy week really fast for you.

1058
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean it's we were talking about the

1059
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 5: dead period between the end of many camps and then

1060
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 5: they started training camp. Is this the worst time of

1061
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 5: year in the world for all of us who are

1062
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 5: just fanatical football fans, this is the best time. This

1063
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 5: is like, this is like Christmas month, you know, this

1064
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 5: is like December and now you're just waiting for Christmas

1065
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 5: Day when we kick off Week one. How cool is that?

1066
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: Though?

1067
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been sitting up here in Buffalo. It's been

1068
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: a different kind of off season for our for the

1069
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: Bills because of the turnover on the defensive side, the

1070
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 3: loss of some really big names, some household names. What

1071
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: is your what is your take on refurbishing really the

1072
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: not really the young core of people, but kind of

1073
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: refurbishing the energy and the roster with some younger, more

1074
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 3: athletic guys, saying goodbye to some guys you love and respect,

1075
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 3: but trying to get younger and more fit.

1076
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 5: Look, I think these are exciting times. Maybe not for

1077
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 5: the fan base. Heck, maybe not even for some coaches

1078
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 5: because of the fact that they, you know, when they're

1079
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 5: dealing with known with known commodities, so to speaking of

1080
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 5: hate home players commodities, but when they're dealing with known

1081
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 5: commodities for so long, they kind of like, you know,

1082
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 5: you you almost you almost you almost find this comfort

1083
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 5: zone when at this time of year where you know,

1084
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: you know exactly what to expect, guys know what to

1085
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 5: to to expect. So you kind of hit the ground

1086
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 5: running and it's you know, you kind of get up

1087
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: to speed quickly, making sure you just keep your team

1088
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: healthy and you kind of know what to expect come

1089
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 5: week one because there's a lot of just like proven

1090
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: players within your system, your culture, and and and so

1091
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 5: it's just kind of business as usual. These kind of

1092
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: seasons can can kind of go one of two ways, right.

1093
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 5: I Mean, there's obviously going to be a little bit

1094
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: of angst, the anticipation about like, how do some of

1095
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: these new young faces who aren't really indoctrinated into the

1096
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 5: Bill's culture, how are they going to respond once now

1097
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: training camp really starts to ramp up, and then as

1098
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 5: we start moving towards week one and then as we

1099
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 5: start playing games, how are these guys going to really,

1100
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 5: you know, adapt to our culture and adapt to the

1101
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 5: expectations that we have, you know up there in Buffalo

1102
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 5: in particular, which is competing for titles in the East

1103
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: and trying to get to the title game and slay

1104
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: that drag and get back to the super Bowl. So

1105
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 5: when you but the cool thing is like they've drafted

1106
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: guys who have come from successful programs, who have been

1107
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 5: highly successful players, who are tremendously talented, and I think

1108
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 5: Brandon and Sean, you know, in the group up there

1109
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: really are I think probably going into this season with

1110
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: a lot of like positive anticipation and being very hopeful that, look,

1111
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 5: we're going to attack this season with some of the

1112
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: unknowns in a very positive way. We've drafted good players.

1113
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 5: We know how to develop players, we know how to

1114
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 5: coach winning football, and look, I personally, look, I've written

1115
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 5: about a couple of these guys you know who are

1116
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 5: who were brought into this football team. Especially on the

1117
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 5: offensive side of the football. I'm a big Kean Coleman guy.

1118
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: I'm a big, big Ray Davis guy. On the defensive side,

1119
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 5: I'm a huge Dwayne Carr. I think Dwayne Carter is

1120
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: one of the people that when you look at the

1121
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 5: draft overall, how many people know of a defensive tackle

1122
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: slash DN swing player from Duke who could wind up

1123
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: being an eight to ten sack guy if you hit right,

1124
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 5: if he plays his cards right and gets a couple

1125
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: of breaks fall on his way. I mean, that's that's

1126
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 5: exciting to me, So I would assume it's exciting to

1127
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 5: the people inside the building up there.

1128
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't I don't want to put

1129
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: a player comparison on Dwayne Carter, but it's hard not

1130
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: to get some Kyle Williams vibes from him just seeing

1131
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: what he's been able to do through the course of

1132
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: the spring. Just a guy who knows it right from

1133
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: the jump and might be twenty three years old but

1134
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: plays like a thirty two year old VET that's been

1135
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: in the league for ten years. I don't know what

1136
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: it is, but and I know, he comes from a

1137
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: big time football family. He's got, you know, bloodlines that

1138
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: go pretty deep, all the way back to his grandfather.

1139
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: But he he flashed early here, and it was hard

1140
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: not to think of how quickly Kyle Williams flashed when

1141
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: he got onto the scene here back in two thousand

1142
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: and five.

1143
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, his his tape was spectacular. It really was.

1144
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 5: From one positional versatility, obviously, I think he's a better

1145
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 5: he's a better three technique than he is a nine technique.

1146
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 5: I think he is. He plays with tremendous leverage, great

1147
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 5: hand use, great a great feel for leverage, set points

1148
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 5: of offensive guards, power, cornerback awareness in the post. He's

1149
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: got all those kinds of things, all of those and

1150
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 5: you know, and that's reminiscent of a guy like Kyle Williams,

1151
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 5: like you're talking about, and they need that, They needed

1152
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: this infusion of youth and versatility that comes from a

1153
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 5: guy like that. And when you think of like that

1154
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: combination of what him and and Ed could do together,

1155
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 5: because they are they're a little bit diff they're a

1156
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 5: little bit different, but they are on the inside. Just

1157
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 5: think of the kind of things they could do on

1158
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: a four down front in sub packages when it's like

1159
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 5: third and seven. But these kind of two dudes can do,

1160
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: how disrupted they can be. I know, Sean has just

1161
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: got to be licking his chops sitting there going, man.

1162
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what we're looking for. That's the kind

1163
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 5: of thing that we're looking for.

1164
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 3: You know.

1165
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 5: Look, obviously in the secondary, there's gonna there's gonna be

1166
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 5: some some things that they're gonna have to iron out.

1167
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: And that's really Sean's forte. I mean, that's what he

1168
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: coached when I was with them in Philadelphia, along with

1169
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 5: linebackers as well. But I mean that the secondary is

1170
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 5: gonna be one where that's where he's gonna have to

1171
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 5: go to work. It'll be interesting to see what Cole

1172
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: Bishop does. You know, I was someone who had some

1173
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 5: questions about him in the draft, not from an athletic standpoint,

1174
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 5: but just from a functional plan perspective standpoint and how

1175
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: he sees the game, how he processes the game. But again,

1176
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 5: these are all exciting things, man. And like I said,

1177
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 5: going back to the offense, and I know I'm going

1178
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 5: back and forth here only because you know, I spend

1179
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 5: all spring looking at some of these young guys. And

1180
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of talk about Keon and

1181
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 5: about whether or not is he a true number one

1182
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: outside lane winner. Steve you know, you know what it

1183
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 5: takes to play out there. You know what it what

1184
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 5: it means. And I remember DeVante Adams telling me last

1185
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: year or two years ago, he said, look at true

1186
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 5: number one, the true he believes elite wide receiver in

1187
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 5: the NFL is a guy who when it's third and eight,

1188
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 5: can he line up outside the numbers when he's got

1189
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 5: the in the sidelines, not his friend? Can he still win?

1190
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 5: And Keon Coleman showed at Florida State he can win,

1191
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 5: and he can win because he's a high riser and

1192
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 5: he's a former basketball player and got great tracking skills.

1193
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 5: That sounds like a buffalo whatever. That sounds like what

1194
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 5: Josh Allen would love to have. So I'm I'm fired

1195
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 5: up about it about all all the guys that they

1196
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 5: drafted this year. I thought Brandon did a great job.

1197
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the things about it, it has been the

1198
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: headline Keon Coleman coming out at the first pick of

1199
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: the second round. The Bill's drafted trade back twice to

1200
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: get him, and everybody says, well, he's got to replace

1201
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 3: Steff Diggs. He's but the thing about it really is,

1202
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: from the team's perspective, they got to replace Digs and Davis.

1203
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: You know, Digs one hundred and seven catches almost twelve

1204
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: hundred yards. That's a big number, but Davis not so much.

1205
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 3: He had forty five catches. So you're talking about two

1206
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 3: guys that had one hundred and fifty two catches between

1207
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: him almost two thousand yard, just shy of two thousand yards.

1208
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: So you're talking about two guys to replace those two

1209
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: guys of getting seventy six catches and just under a

1210
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 3: thousand yards, that doesn't seem quite so insurmountable. Even when

1211
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: you sprinkle in the target, the targets aren't going away.

1212
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna get the targets. They're not gonna throw the

1213
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: ball one hundred and fifty times less than they did

1214
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 3: last year. They're gonna throw that ball to somebody. And Curtis, Samuel,

1215
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman, Mack Hollan, Khalil, Chase, Claypool, all these guys

1216
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: that are vying for those two spots, they really have

1217
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: to fall off a cliff not to be able to

1218
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 3: get in there and give them some production back. Correct.

1219
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, I agree, And I mean the guys

1220
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 5: who you didn't mention, who you know for sure, are

1221
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 5: going to be focal points in this offense. When I

1222
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 5: think back about the old Indianapolis Colts when they were

1223
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 5: a twelve personnel centric offense, right and Dallas Clark was

1224
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 5: the dude back in those days, I mean, that's just

1225
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 5: to me, sounds like something that's just setting up for

1226
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: the Dalton Kincaid Show to really burst onto the scene

1227
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 5: this year, for him to really be that guy that

1228
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 5: puts defenses in a buying going do we play you

1229
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: in base or do we move the sub. If we

1230
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 5: move the sub, you're going to run the football. If

1231
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: we play you in base, you're gonna fortra our linebackers

1232
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 5: and really gives them, you know, some with being simple

1233
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 5: making it more difficult for defenses. And I'm hoping that

1234
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 5: you know that he's someone who really does burst onto

1235
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 5: the scene. James Cook, you know Ray Davis, those two

1236
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 5: guys as a one to two punch in the backfield.

1237
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 5: You're right, maybe they don't throw the ball one hundred

1238
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: plus times less, but I would think because of what

1239
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 5: James showed as a multifaceted back, and because of what

1240
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 5: Ray has showed at Kentucky of being a multifaceted running past,

1241
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 5: that running past threat back that those guys also like,

1242
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: maybe the offense kind of changes in morphs a little

1243
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 5: bit to where it really is like all hands on deck.

1244
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 5: Maybe we simplified a little bit, Maybe we're not as

1245
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 5: spread out as before. Maybe it's just, you know, it's

1246
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: not just Josh sitting back here, you know, picking you

1247
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,439
Speaker 5: apart in the passing game. But maybe it's a little

1248
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: bit more between the number centric where these tight ends

1249
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 5: and these backs are just gonna bludgeon you. And I

1250
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 5: kind of, I personally, I kind of like, I kind

1251
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 5: of like that attack. I kind of like that approach

1252
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 5: because these guys are studs. I mean, James, I would

1253
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 5: I would assume James has won over a lot of

1254
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 5: people up there with what he can do, and Ray Davis,

1255
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: you won't find a person whoever competed against him in

1256
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 5: the SEC or otherwise say a bad thing about him

1257
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 5: as a person or as we'll tell you what, as

1258
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 5: a player, as someone who can just absolutely rip you.

1259
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 5: And so it'll it'll be cool to see this offense,

1260
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 5: to see this offense kind of take shape and what

1261
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 5: it really looks like and really in the end, but

1262
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 5: we all know, we all know what the engine is here.

1263
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: We all know who it.

1264
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: Is, right, and.

1265
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: Josh is someone who it's wild to me, like, like

1266
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 5: I know, one of our one of my colleagues, Jeremy Faller,

1267
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 5: did a he does a great piece on you know,

1268
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 5: but it uses a lot of anonymous quotes from gms

1269
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: and scouts and some of the things some GM or

1270
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 5: some scout was saying about Josh, it's just like you

1271
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: know how it is with high end athletes. Man always

1272
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 5: looking for something to kind of spur them on and

1273
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 5: get them motivated and want to re higher levels. Well,

1274
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 5: some of the crep that was being said about him

1275
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 5: about being a one read player, can't win at the

1276
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, locks on the targets. I'm sitting there going, Josh,

1277
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 5: Allen's about the rip people this year again.

1278
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's here.

1279
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 5: I can't wait.

1280
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Lewis, let's take it a step further with

1281
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: respect to the offense and move to Joe Brady because

1282
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: he takes over midseason last year and some people were

1283
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: surprised by this, but the team over those last nine

1284
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: games goes fifty two percent run forty eight percent pass.

1285
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they really leaned on the run game. And

1286
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: the big question now going forward Lewis is was he

1287
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: just managing an offense that was in a little bit

1288
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Speaker 2: of a crisis when he took over or is this

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Speaker 2: going to be more a part of what this offense

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Speaker 2: looks like. Maybe not fifty two percent run, but are

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Speaker 2: we going to see the run kind of infiltrate the

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Speaker 2: play calling a little bit more under Joe Brady going forward?

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Speaker 2: Condensed formations are a hot thing now, is that where

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Speaker 2: he takes advantage of the tight ends. Just give us

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Speaker 2: your take on what you think we should expect from

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady going forward.

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Speaker 5: Here, I would, without a doubt one hundred percent expect

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Speaker 5: more of that. And I don't think this is just

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Speaker 5: Joe Brady managing what he had to work with and

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Speaker 5: putting his spin on it solely his spin. And I

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Speaker 5: say that, and I can say that with probably close

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Speaker 5: to one hundred percent certainty based on some of the

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Speaker 5: conversations that I know we had as a crew when

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Speaker 5: talking to Sean McDermott for some production meetings and games

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Speaker 5: that we've televised the Buffalo going back two three years,

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Speaker 5: which is, look, He's always wanted to have that heart

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Speaker 5: of Buffalo's identity on offense, that being the hard nos

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Speaker 5: come off the ball, capture the line of scrimmage, be

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Speaker 5: able to bludgeon teams, be able to kind of soften

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Speaker 5: them up, bring safeties down, throw the ball over the top.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Because of the fact that the running game is a

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Speaker 5: focal point of the offense, he always wanted that to

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Speaker 5: be a part of their identity. And for whatever reason,

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Speaker 5: under previous coordinators, and I'm not saying it's the coordinator,

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Speaker 5: so I'm just saying, for whatever reason, it always seemed

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Speaker 5: to fall back on this is Josh. It's throwing the

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Speaker 5: ball to Steph, it's throwing the ball to Gabe. We're

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Speaker 5: spreading them out. If it's not there, Josh is gonna

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Speaker 5: use his legs. He's gonna be a dual threat. And

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Speaker 5: the running game per se in a traditional sense, meaning

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Speaker 5: the running back carrying the ball was just not a

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Speaker 5: part of really who they were from a true identity standpoint.

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Speaker 5: And I think what you saw last year is maybe

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Speaker 5: exactly where I don't know if it's exactly the ratio

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Speaker 5: that Sean is looking for. I can't say that without

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Speaker 5: having asked him, But that looks more like that felt

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Speaker 5: more like what ideal he had envisioned, which is, I

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Speaker 5: really do want to be a physical football team on

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Speaker 5: the offense. I want our offensive line, and you've seen

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Speaker 5: the kind of things that they've been trying to do

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Speaker 5: to develop that kind of identity and that kind of

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Speaker 5: reputation along the offensive line. He wanted guys who were nasty.

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Speaker 5: He wanted guys who would knock people off the ball,

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Speaker 5: who would treat people with disrespect, so to speak. You

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Speaker 5: saw that last year a little bit well n actually

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Speaker 5: you saw it a lot. You saw how they treated Dallas.

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Speaker 5: That's idea, that's what he wants. He wants to be

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Speaker 5: able to do that to your front seven. And then

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Speaker 5: because when you when you can do that, it's over.

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Speaker 5: Josh is gonna go crazy. He's gonna go crazy throwing

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Speaker 5: the football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's that's where they want to get to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, no question. Their offensive line. We made

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Speaker 3: the point here. Their offensive line was one of the

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Speaker 3: only ones, maybe the only one in all of Pro

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Speaker 3: football stayed together. The same five guys took every snap

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Speaker 3: of the regular season. They didn't miss any snaps. That

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Speaker 3: gives you some continuity and plus it also proves how

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Speaker 3: effective you can be. And in that last two months

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Speaker 3: of the season when they were and must win and

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Speaker 3: they just took over up front. And it seems here

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Speaker 3: from our end of it, with Van pran Granger being drafted,

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Speaker 3: mcgoverny moving down to they've got even bigger and more

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Speaker 3: athletic down inside for that offensive line to be even

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Speaker 3: more physical. Plus, and I want to say this, it's

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Speaker 3: a phenomenon that's really unique to Buffalo because of Josh.

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Speaker 3: People outside of Buffalo and was the and this was

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Speaker 3: also the narrative that followed Josh after the Jet game

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Speaker 3: opening Day last year when he threw the three interceptions

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Speaker 3: and they were deep and all that. People say, Josh

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Speaker 3: turns it over too much. Josh turns it over too much,

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Speaker 3: and people in Buffalo, I go, no, he doesn't, because

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Speaker 3: he scores enough. And really the narrative here in Buffalo

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Speaker 3: is we don't care. He scores more touchdowns than anybody.

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Speaker 3: Put the ball out there and do it. But if

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Speaker 3: you're gonna run the ball fifty two percent of the

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Speaker 3: time or a higher percentage of the time. That does

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Speaker 3: take away a couple of opportunities where Josh has to

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Speaker 3: put it up for grabs or do all of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: This kind of offense with a two tight end and

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Speaker 3: the condensed formations and the twelve personnel and the Shakir

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Speaker 3: in the slot and Cook carrying the ball and Kincaid,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they don't have to throw the

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Speaker 3: fifteen yard dig route on the back side to make

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Speaker 3: a first down, and so the turnovers naturally come down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, every coach the

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Speaker 5: very first thing they're gonna tell you when you ask

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Speaker 5: them what's the key to winning in the NFL, They're

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Speaker 5: gonna say turnover differential. They're just gonna say that.

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: Every coach is on autopilot to answer the question that way.

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Speaker 5: And it's true. There's a direct correlation. It's true. It's

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 5: not like they're lying. So I think taking some of

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 5: the pressure off of Josh having the hit to make

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Speaker 5: riskier decision throws that aren't really high percentage throws, because

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01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 5: either you're behind the sticks, you become one dimensional. Teams

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01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 5: are starting to flood zones, flood areas that they know

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01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 5: you want to attack, making it even harder for him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, those are the things that he wants that

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Speaker 5: every coach is trying to, you know, lessen the burden

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Speaker 5: on those situations for their quarterback. I don't care how

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01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 5: good they are, and I think that's all that Sean's

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Speaker 5: trying to do. That's all that Joe Brady is trying

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Speaker 5: to do, is trying to find ways for them to

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Speaker 5: be even more efficient without there being a noticeable drop

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Speaker 5: off in the ultimate statistic, which is scoring points, which

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Speaker 5: is what everybody I mean, we know it's a point

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Speaker 5: scoring business. And you know, honestly along those lines, I'll

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Speaker 5: say this too. A coach told me, a college coach

1402
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Speaker 5: told me this this year, and I think this is

1403
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 5: true in football overall, Steve, and that is they believe

1404
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 5: that wide receiver surpassed past rusher as the second most

1405
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: important position in the game of football in today's game,

1406
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 5: outside of quarterback. Because of everything that wide receivers do,

1407
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 5: which is one, they can flip the field and win

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 5: a game for you on one play. Okay, they put

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 5: people in the seats. We know that football is a

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01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 5: big business. Because people want to see points scored, and

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Speaker 5: they don't want to see it scored going you know,

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 5: gain of three, gain of four, you know, gain of

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 5: five first down. They want to see the sixty seventy

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Speaker 5: yard touchdowns and three. They bring in other players to

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 5: your football team. When you have a high flying offense

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 5: that can put points on the board and they're doing

1417
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 5: in dramatic fashion, free agents want to come, recruits want

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01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 5: to come in college and all. So I understand the

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Speaker 5: importance of the passing game, and I'm not saying that

1420
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 5: Josh's role in his ability to push the ball down

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01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: the field is ever going to be something that's that's

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01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 5: de emphasized. But I think what you saw with Buffalo

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 5: in the second half of the year, I think is

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Speaker 5: more in the vision of what Sean wants, and ultimately,

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 5: I think it could be one of those things that

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 5: knock on wood. You know, this offensive line stays healthy

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 5: and can propel them, can help them take another step.

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 5: Because all the teams in the that are playing January football,

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01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 5: what do we talk about in the media every year

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 5: come January? Offensive line play? Can they run the football?

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 5: Can defenses stop from getting bludgeoned? It always matters at

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Speaker 5: that time of year. People don't like talking about it September, October,

1433
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,440
Speaker 5: November and in the off season. But then come January

1434
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: when their teams suck on the offensive line or can't

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 5: stop anybody against the run, then all of a sudden

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 5: they care. Then they care. That's why I think they're

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 5: doing this the right way. Hopefully it turns out and

1438
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,480
Speaker 5: manifests itself in more postseason wins for them.

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Speaker 2: Lewis enjoyed the conversation. Thanks for joining us. Have fun

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Speaker 2: this weekend on Back Together Saturday on ESPN.

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Speaker 5: Well bet, thanks for having you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that's Lewis Riddick, ESPN NFL analysts joining us. As

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Speaker 2: we said, he will be on ESPN's Back Together Saturday

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 2: coverage training camp around the league. It'll be on ESPN

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Speaker 2: in the morning and then ABC in the afternoon. We

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Speaker 2: take a quick break here, we're back with more in

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Speaker 2: a flash on One Bill's Live, presented by Collida Health.

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Speaker 6: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. A good conversation there with Lewis

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Speaker 2: Ritick in casey and this did a lot of good

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01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: stuff in that. Yeah, you can always you can always

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Speaker 2: check back on the Bill's YouTube page, where we usually

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Speaker 2: re rack the show, or on the Bill's home page.

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Speaker 2: By about three thirty pm Eastern time, you can grab

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Speaker 2: it there and re listen to the show at your leisure.

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Speaker 2: But we want to get back to the topic at hand,

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Speaker 2: which is what do you think should be the Bill's

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: immediate focus for training camp. You can give us a call,

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Speaker 2: you know, three oh five fifty one eighty eight, five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty got open lines for you there.

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Speaker 2: But we are going to crack open the tweet sheet now.

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Speaker 2: busy this week, and the first comment comes from Edward,

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Speaker 2: who says Alan working with his new center is more

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Speaker 2: important than people understand. Frontline needs to just work together

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 2: all the time. Bills can't afford to take a step

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: back there. Safeties need to get their messaging down pat

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Speaker 2: The Bills will have a lot of work to do

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Speaker 2: on the starters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The only thing that's gonna comment, Yeah, the only

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: thing that's gonna stand on the way the offensive line

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: coming back and hitting it up is injury because the

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Speaker 3: guys they've got in the room there that are gonna

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Speaker 3: be there doing it and what having even the new

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Speaker 3: guys who are there watching them and hearing their conversations.

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Speaker 3: The only thing gets in the way that is injury.

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: Those guys that are up there have done it, and

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Speaker 3: they're gonna know the words, know the vocabulary. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a good communication because they've been in the room

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: for a year. I don't think the offensive line is

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01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 3: gonna take a step back unless injury hits that room.

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 3: Then you know, that's like everybody.

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Speaker 2: You can argue their depth is better than it was

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Oh that more quality guys.

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 2: Collins is a seven year starter in the league. He

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Speaker 2: there's a good chance he's gonna be a backup guard

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: slash tackle. Ryan vandermark Is was your swing tackle last year.

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Speaker 2: He's back yep uh Alec Anderson, Cedric van Puran Grainger

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: will clap. A veteran center in this league is on

1493
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: the roster.

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Speaker 3: So not all those guys gonna make it. No, you

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: If I remember right, I've got it in my files

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Speaker 2: ten ten last year we'll see what they decided to

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Speaker 2: do this year.

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Speaker 3: And then also the safeties. Yeah, they that's it. For

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Speaker 3: the first time ever, for the first time in a while,

1501
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: the starters in the secondary are gonna need time together.

1502
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like last year and two years ago and

1503
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: three years ago, those guys could sit on their helmets

1504
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: for entire training camp. Come in and just let's go. Now,

1505
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: they need to run through it. They need to hear

1506
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: each other speak. They need to hear the checks and

1507
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: checks and the you know, the adjustment packages. They need

1508
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: to hear the calls on the field. And then they

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 3: got it an they gonna watch it on film and

1510
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 3: hear a conversation about here, what were you thinking here?

1511
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 3: Why did you step here? Well, because I was trying

1512
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: to make them think it was gonna be Cover three

1513
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 3: when we were gonna shift to cover six. And he says, Okay,

1514
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 3: if you're gonna do that, tell me, let's have a

1515
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 3: little signal, because then if you're gonna make it look

1516
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 3: like cover six, so will I and then we'll as

1517
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: soon as the ball snap, we stem into cover three.

1518
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: So both safeties, that's why Poyer and Hyde were so good.

1519
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 3: They would do stuff and we say, okay, it's gonna

1520
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: be cover three. Here we go. They snap, and all

1521
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: of a sudden it's cover four and they were way

1522
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: out of position. But in the time it takes you

1523
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 3: to think, what, oh, they're in cover four, they're already there.

1524
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: And now it's three quarters of a second into a

1525
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 3: two point five play clock and you've got to get

1526
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: rid of it and you just now realize what the

1527
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 3: coverage is. That kind of stuff happens, and that's because

1528
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: those guys could do it without talking.

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: So the point there is it's not just about all

1530
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,759
Speaker 2: these players knowing their alignment and their assignment. They also

1531
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: have to learn how to play off of one another,

1532
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: to Steve's point, and that is a whole other exercise

1533
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: that you really only get through repetitions. How many reps

1534
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: you get in camp will largely determine how well you

1535
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: play off your teammate who is new to you and

1536
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: you are new to him.

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01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: That is a good tweet from Edward.

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01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: Steve says, pass rush. We need to figure out quick

1539
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: how healthy Von is. And even then it's my biggest concern. Well,

1540
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: everybody understands why. It's the fear of the unknown.

1541
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 3: Is he better?

1542
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 2: Is he back to being the Vaughn. We know the

1543
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: proof will be on the field, and hopefully we witness that.

1544
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 2: I think we do have to remember and maybe some

1545
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: people forget this, and unless they see him dragging a

1546
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: quarterback to the ground for an official sack, they don't

1547
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: think he's back. I think we did see an upticking

1548
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: his play down the stretch last season and even in

1549
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now, he doesn't have the stats to necessarily

1550
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: back that up, but I felt he was on track

1551
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: to making a bigger impact in football games. And I'm

1552
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: just gonna say it flat out now, Steve and I

1553
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: could be dead wrong on this, but I think he

1554
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: is going to be assigned to this roster as a

1555
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 2: pass rush specialist. You have guys that can set the

1556
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: edge on rundowns, whether it's Dewan Smoot and Greg Russeau

1557
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: or aj Epanessa. So when you're sitting in a second

1558
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: and three situation, I don't think von Miller's on the field.

1559
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: I think he's coming in to be your a one

1560
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: pass rush specialist. I think he plays thirty snaps a game,

1561
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: and I think by doing that, he can play more

1562
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: like twenty eight year old Vaughn if he's playing thirty

1563
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,919
Speaker 2: snaps a game.

1564
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 3: Right, I agree, and he'll probably stay as effective as

1565
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: he's going to be. He will be able to remain

1566
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 3: effective because of the fact that he's going to be

1567
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 3: sprinkled in and not used, you know, all the time.

1568
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: I think his snapped counts are going to keep him

1569
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 3: fresh throughout the season. And let's face it, this is

1570
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 3: a club too, and we thought this last year, said listen,

1571
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: just get him to the postseason, let him help out,

1572
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 3: you know, And I think it'll be a little bit

1573
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 3: of that this year as well.

1574
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: Brian on the tweets sheet says all three phases have

1575
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: issues Brady's playbook Secondary, particularly safety, Special Teams, Palooza, pr KR,

1576
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: placeholder bess so Punk Return and kick return and placeholder Bess.

1577
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would call them issues. See

1578
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 2: how they play out first before you determine whether it's

1579
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: an issue. They certainly have qualified candidates for answers in

1580
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: all of these areas. I mean, it's not like they're

1581
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 2: rolling out some wet behind the ears rookie at all

1582
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: of these positions. They have veterans at those positions that

1583
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: will compete for the jobs. And they have young players

1584
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 2: who will compete for the jobs. You know, punt return

1585
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: is a perfect example. You know, they have a ve

1586
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: guy like a kJ Hamler. They have a rookie in

1587
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: Daikwon Hardy, so that's you know, and you and you

1588
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: still have Andy Isabella on the roster too, who served

1589
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: in that capacity. So it's not like you have only

1590
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: one guy and if it doesn't work with him, oh boy,

1591
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: we're up a creek. They have multiple options at all

1592
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: of these roles. I mean, you could even look at

1593
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: kick return and knowing that that's going to be a

1594
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 2: far different play this year, have even more players possibly

1595
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: in the mixes. Who's going to do it?

1596
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 3: I'm not too I'm not two of the special teams

1597
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: lose a meaning kickoff team. Yeah, that's that's something that

1598
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: is way up in the air for a lot of teams.

1599
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: If that's the case for every team in the league.

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01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 3: The punt returner, kick returner, I am unconcerned about because

1601
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:57,520
Speaker 3: it's it's that probably above any other position in football

1602
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: is about I mean, you could you literally could pull

1603
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 3: a guy out of the you could pull the guy

1604
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: out of the stands. He don't new to learn plays,

1605
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: know nothing. So listen, return left, go out, catch the

1606
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: ball and go. It's that simple. It's totally instinctive and

1607
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 3: totally skilled. If you can catch the ball, which is

1608
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 3: not easy, catch the ball coming out of the sky,

1609
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 3: make a couple of guys miss, you can be a

1610
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: punt returner. Kick returner is even different than that's even

1611
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: easier than that. Kickoff returners the easiest job in sports.

1612
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 3: So you can catch a tumbling ball. It's easy to catch.

1613
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: You can see it coming. Now, just run where they're

1614
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 3: not and go. So those it. Certainly the guys up

1615
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: front make a difference. But if you've got a guy

1616
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 3: who's sure handed and doesn't fumble it, I don't care.

1617
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 3: If he's a three hundred and ten pounder, put him

1618
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: back there. You'll be safe. So I'm not. Yeah, certainly

1619
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: you want a guy back there that can go the distance.

1620
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: But when push comes to shove, and I'll say this

1621
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: if I was a special teams coordinated this is what

1622
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: I'd say every year. Job one, after every special team's

1623
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 3: play is end of the play with the ball. That's it.

1624
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 3: Get possession of the ball. And that means if you're

1625
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 3: punting it away or kicking it away, get it back.

1626
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: That's job one. Everything after that is gravy. So so

1627
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: if you got a guy that can catch kicks, at

1628
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 3: least you're not gonna turn it back over. So anything

1629
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: you get after that, if you get a first down,

1630
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 3: if you can get a guy that catches the punt

1631
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 3: and gets an extra ten yards on it, hey you

1632
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: got a first down for the offense. Let's go. That's

1633
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 3: what you want. You're not expecting a home run every

1634
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 3: trip to the plate, but you just need a guy

1635
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 3: that when the play is over, who's got the ball. Oh,

1636
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 3: we do, that's good, let's go.

1637
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 2: Eric. On the tweets, she says, determine the starting safeties

1638
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 2: as soon as possible so they can get the first

1639
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,879
Speaker 2: team reps as soon as possible. Replacing Poyer and Hyde

1640
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 2: is as tall of a task as there is on

1641
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: this roster. Get the guys ready to go. That will

1642
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: be an interesting exercise, Steve, because let's not forget Mike Edwards,

1643
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: the veteran free agent signing, missed all of OTA's and

1644
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: was limited in mini camp, So we were just talking

1645
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: about learning how to play off of one another and

1646
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 2: getting those reps. He didn't get him in the spring

1647
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: in this defense with Taylor Rap or Cole Bishop or

1648
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 2: anybody else for that matter. So they really got to

1649
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: hit the ground running here. And this is always a

1650
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: common question when starting roles are at stake, what is

1651
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 2: the deadline for making a determination as to who your

1652
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: starters are in those roles, because ultimately you have a

1653
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: position battle, but there's a cutoff point where you got

1654
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: to say this is the guy because we need enough

1655
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: time to get him ready for the regular season.

1656
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: And it's not like.

1657
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 2: Mike Edwards doesn't know what NFL regular season football it's like,

1658
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 2: or Taylor Rap for that matter. But what they do

1659
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,759
Speaker 2: need to know if they prove to be the starters

1660
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: at those two positions, they need to know how to

1661
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 2: play off of one another based on our conversation five

1662
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 2: minutes ago, and they have to know how to execute

1663
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 2: that against different opponents every week, knowing not every opponent

1664
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: is the same and there are a certain number of

1665
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of reps you need for that.

1666
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and I said it, and well you'll

1667
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: see it, and it's it's obvious to Bills fans, people

1668
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 3: who watched this show and listen to it. The issues

1669
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: early in this season are going to be defensive, not offensive.

1670
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean the defense isn't gonna go out

1671
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 3: and have a nice day against the offense. In training

1672
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 3: came and all that, but let's face it, when this

1673
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: team takes the field, all the offensive line is gonna

1674
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. They're veteran, they've all played together.

1675
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 3: The wide receivers, hey, all they got to do is

1676
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: get open. The ball's gonna be there when they turn around.

1677
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Because Josh is still the quarterback, James Cook is an

1678
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 3: old hand at this. Shakir is that I you know,

1679
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: Shakier's gonna explode this season, and so is Kincaid and Knox.

1680
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: You couldn't get a more veteran group. There hasn't been

1681
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 3: a veteran group like this for a while, at least

1682
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 3: one that you trusted this much. So the other two

1683
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 3: wide receivers are the two and the three wide receiver

1684
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: behind you. Yeah, okay, well listen when they come out

1685
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: of their route, if they're open, the ball is gonna

1686
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: be on them. We all know that. So that that's everything.

1687
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: All the issues of this training camp for me are

1688
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: about the defense, the front seven, pass rush, the back

1689
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: end getting it in they're communicating it, getting the front

1690
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 3: aligned with the rush package, aligned with the coverage package.

1691
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,799
Speaker 3: I've said it that this offense is gonna it's a wagon.

1692
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 3: They're gonna be fine. They're gonna get there, They're gonna

1693
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: get their feet under them. They're gonna come out. It

1694
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 3: may not look exactly the same because they've got different

1695
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: great players that they're gonna depend on than they did

1696
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 3: early last year. But they're gonna score points even right

1697
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 3: out of the gate, I think, in this season. But

1698
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 3: the other side of the ball, there's a lot of

1699
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 3: new faces and a lot of moving parts. That's I

1700
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 3: think where the spotlight is gonna be for Bill's attention

1701
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: and should be for Bill's attention, Bill's fans attention.

1702
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, some final thoughts on

1703
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet when we return here on One Bill's

1704
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: Live presented by Kilida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

1705
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 2: So final thoughts on the tweet sheet here on a

1706
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: Monday on One Bills Live, where we have been asking

1707
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: you what do you think should be the Bill's immediate

1708
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: focus on day one of training camp this week, and

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01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: Lawrence says on the tweet sheet is Bass bouncing back

1710
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 2: question mark. His struggles at the end of the year

1711
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: in the playoffs is worrisome and not talked about much.

1712
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: I got to believe that the season that Bass had

1713
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: last year was not up to his own personal standard,

1714
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: and I would tend to believe that he redoubled his

1715
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: efforts this offseason to come in and be the lights

1716
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: out kicker he was at the beginning of his career.

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01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: That's my anticipation. Now, obviously the proof is gonna be

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 2: on the field. How was he looking camp? Because the

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01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: interesting thing is they've got an undrafted rookie, Steve and

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 2: Jack Browning, who's here primarily to be competition for Sam

1721
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Martin the punter, but he also plays kicked in college

1722
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: at Santego State.

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01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what it would take for Browning.

1725
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: To even be given the opportunity.

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01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: To outshine a veteran NFL kicker, but they did bring him,

1727
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 3: and they don't bring guys in unless they are sure

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01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: that they're going to give him a chance to compete.

1729
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 3: One of the things that Sean McDermott has been adamant

1730
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 3: about is if you're signed to a contract, you got

1731
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: a chance to make this team period. You're not just

1732
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 3: a camp body. So at some point he is going

1733
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 3: to get that chance.

1734
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: We did get some calls today complaining about where are

1735
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: the Bills throwback jerseys. The Jets are going to use

1736
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: their throwback jersey in Week six against the Bills. That

1737
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 2: is a Monday night game October thirteenth, down to the

1738
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: Medlife Stadium. Let's go the stripes and the old New

1739
01:29:53,040 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 2: York Jets logo We'll see you tomorrow at one.

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Speaker 7: He