1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Appreciate all 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. So many different stories 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: right now on Capitol Hill coming together. We are trying 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: to keep you updated on what exactly is going on 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the Infrastructure Bill which may be 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: voted on today by the House, but also the Budget 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Reconciliation Bill, which has now been officially laid out in 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: some way, and that is going to be I would 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: imagine a major battle between the two of these and 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the inner play complicated. A lot of different chess board 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: maneuverings going on right now, and we will keep you 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: updated on that throughout the course of the show as 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: well as tomorrow with the latest. We are joining now 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: by Molly Hemingway, who has got a fabulous book that 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: is coming out. We're going to talk about that regarding 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: what exactly went on in the twenty twenty election and 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: beyond buck Sexton. I should mention Molly as she comes 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: in with us right now. Buck is out sick. I 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: know you know, Buck well, Molly but I want to 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: start with this. Your book on Brett Kavanaugh was incredible. 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: The behind the scenes maneuvering associated with how Brett Kavanaugh 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: ended up on the Supreme Court, the Senate Judiciary committee hearings, 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: it was absolutely riveting. I don't think I've ever spoken 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: to you before, but I wanted you to hear that 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: directly from me. It was so incredibly well done. How 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: much time and research and energy and effort did you 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: put into telling that story as in such a compelling 30 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: fashion as you did? Well? Thank you, first of all, 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I was glad to research and 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: report on both books. For the first book, my co 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: author Sabarino, and I interviewed more than a hundred people 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: who were involved in the confirmation of Kavanaugh. You know, 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: that included everyone at the White House and the Senate, 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: in the outside groups, and it was just fascinating to 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: get their stories and inside details and be able to 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: record for posterity what actually happened. Because we knew that 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: the media would do what they did with Clarence Thomas, 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: which is, you know, tell false stories and then just 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: keep telling and telling and telling them for decades and 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: then the real history gets lost, and so I took 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: that same approach with Rigged, which tells what happened during 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election. Tons of interviews from people on 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and RNC, but at the state and 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: the local level, to outside groups to really get a 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: handle on just what happened in this craziest election of 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: our lifetime. Okay, so I haven't read Rigged yet, but 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm encourage everybody out there, just based on your last book, 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: to read this one, and I will read it as well. 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Rigged How the media, big tech, and the Democrats seized 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: our elections. Let's talk about some of the things that 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: you uncovered during the course of reporting on this book, 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: and I want to start with one that I know 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: all of our listeners are focused on because it was 56 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: such an egregious example of this overreach, and that was 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: a New York Post basically getting canceled by Twitter and 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: other big tech platforms when they came out with what 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: has now basically been confirmed to have been an accurate 60 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: story about Hunter Biden's laptop and everything associated with the 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: revelations on that laptop. In the years ahead, will this 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: come to seem even more egregious in your mind than 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: it does now, or is this something that people are 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: going to pretend on the left just never happened as 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: a result of it now having been proven true, and 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that their censorship was in many ways a direct refutation 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: of the truth. It was shocking and horrifying and one 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: of the worst things I've ever seen more style colonists 69 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: an American to watch as all of these powerful entities 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: just decided they were going to memory whole not just 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: an important story, but one of the more important stories 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: of the campaign. You know, we know the Biden family 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: has a business, and that's where foreign oligarchs and other 74 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: powerful people give money to members of the Biden family 75 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: and then it's completely unknown what they get in return, 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: you know. And because it's unknown, it's presumably related to 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: policy and taxpayer dollars. And so there was no question 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: that this was an important story for journalists to cover. 79 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: They never covered it, and then when the New York 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: Posts did cover it, they did their best to lie 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: about it, claim it was Russian misinformation to deep platform 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: New York Posts and anybody who shared the story. It 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: was horrible, but it was just one of many ways 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: that our corrupt media have harmed the country, and a 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: harmed civil discourse harmed the integrity of our elections, because 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, you look at what our country was founded on, 87 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's freedom, information, and the right to pursue the truth. 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: And this is encoded in the First Amendment, religion, speech, 89 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: pressed all these things, and the war and the media 90 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: and big tech went to war against these founding ideas 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: that are like predate our actual country, and it was 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: horrifying to go through. If you compare the false allegations 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: of Russia collusion with what we one hundred percent know 94 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: was big tech collusion, isn't it unbelievable that so many 95 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: people who spread the big lie of Russia collusion were 96 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: directly complicit in a conspiracy of big tech companies to 97 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: alter the outcome of the twenty twenty election after they 98 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: falsely argued that twenty sixteen had been the collusive driven 99 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: election that was outcome, that outcome pursued driven in that way. 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: It's extraordinary irony, this clay. Isn't that very interesting that 101 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: you know, from twenty sixteen through the next election, it 102 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: wasn't like a fringe theory that these conspiracy theorists held 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: to and promulgated. It was massive. It was everybody in 104 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the media, everybody in the Democratic Party. They claimed that 105 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump stole the twenty sixteen election because he was 106 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: a secret agent of Russia. It was absurd, it was evil, 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: and they did it every day, multiple times a day. 108 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: And then then twenty twenty happens. We have all these 109 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: changes to our election laws. We have mail in ballots 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: flooding the system. We have Mark Zuckerberg engaged in a 111 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: private takeover of our government election offices. We have the 112 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: media and tech issues that we talked about, and then 113 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, these very same people who spread 114 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: the lie that Donald Trump stole the twenty sixteen election 115 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: and spread it maliciously and continuously for years, all of 116 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: a sudden they're like, you can't talk about any problems 117 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: with the twenty twenty election, And when it comes down 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: to it, the only thing they can like hang their 119 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: hat on is that Russia was meddled in our elections, 120 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: you know, for like one hundred years, oh, except for 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and twenty twenty. Apparently they bought like one 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars in Facebook ads, some of which benefited 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, some of which benefited Donald Trump. Well, compare 124 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: that with what tech did in twenty twenty. They spent 125 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: four years gaming algorithms, four years deplatforming effective conservative voices, 126 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: four years censoring important stories, four years, you know, telling 127 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: their left leaning social media users to go register to 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: vote and to go vote, but not their right leaning users. 129 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about metling and on a scale so 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: much beyond epitoly. You know, whatever Russia did in twenty sixteen, 131 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: it's well said. And I think you and I understand 132 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: this a lot better than your average person would because 133 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: we write online. And you mentioned one hundred thousand dollars 134 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: in Facebook ads. That might sound like a lot of 135 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: money to a regular person, because one hundred thousand dollars 136 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: is a lot of money to a regular person. To 137 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: someone who is buying Facebook ads, one hundred thousand dollars, 138 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: molly is nothing. I mean, that is such a tiny 139 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: pen prick of money. The idea that you could swing 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: a presidential election for one hundred thousand dollars when we're 141 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year, if not 142 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: billions of dollars a year on presidential elections, is one 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: of the dumbest. Leave aside the dishonesty of it. It's 144 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: one of the dumbest arguments that I've ever seen made 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: and accepted as a reality by anyone with a functional brain. 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: And yet again, it was not fringe. It wasn't you 147 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: on the outer edges of the Internet that this was 148 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: being promulgated. It was every day in the Washington Post, 149 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: New York Times, you know, CNN, m Smacy, all the 150 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: major media, and it was too stupid to believe. They 151 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: actually thought that what they were saying was real but 152 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: caused real damage. And like you point out, what tech 153 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: companies themselves did, you know, after twenty sixteen, they felt 154 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: responsible for Donald Trump winning because the media had manipulated 155 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Trump's message so that people wouldn't vote for him. So 156 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: he just went with social media to speak directly to 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: the people, and the people found that very compelling, and 158 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: so they decided, well, we can't let him speak directly 159 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: to the people. We have to control this. And they 160 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: did ever. I mean, they were kind of public about it, 161 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: but they did all of this game playing, you know, 162 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: with search engines, with suppression of news stories. If you 163 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: were a left wing newspaper like the Washington Post, from 164 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: New York Times, or you know, even outright like acknowledged 165 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: leftist media. Those were elevated on Facebook and other social 166 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: media platforms. If you didn't que to corporate media's party line. 167 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: If you, for instance, said that the Russia collusion hoax 168 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: was a lie, which is true, they would decrease your 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: reach on social media. Think about the profound implications of 170 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: how that affected people's understanding of reality and how they 171 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: might vote in subsequent elections. There's no doubt we're talking 172 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,239 Speaker 1: to Molly Hemingway. She's a senior editor at The Federalist, 173 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: author of the new book which I would encourage all 174 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: of you to read, Rigged of the big tech companies. 175 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: If you were doing a po our ranking of how 176 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: impactful they were in helping to rig the twenty twenty 177 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: election for Joe Biden, how would you assess Twitter, Facebook, Google, YouTube, 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: all of these different big tech companies and essentially the 179 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: contributions that they were making in favor of Joe Biden. 180 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Did any one or two companies stagger you more than 181 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: others in terms of the decisions they were making? How 182 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: would you rank them? Well, of course they're all kind 183 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: of related. Sometimes officially, and sometimes they coordinate to d 184 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: platform voices together. But I would say the role that 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Google plays in controlling access to information, they're more powerful 186 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: than any country on Earth. They can d platform people 187 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: at will in a way that you know, they can 188 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: take sites offline, they can take voices offline, and then 189 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: they do it a lot with ways that people don't understand. 190 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: So if you know, if you're putting something into a 191 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: search engine, I think many Americans have this naive idea 192 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: that what they're getting back is somehow balanced, are impartial. 193 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: That just simply is not true. They have shown for 194 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: years that conservative or non leftist voices are marginalized in 195 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: these search engines in a way that is almost like 196 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: a psychological experiment on the American people, and of course 197 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: in other countries as well. Is they going to get 198 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: better or worse? In your mind as we move into 199 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four, Is there any shame? 200 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: Is there any legal peril that the Googles, the facebooks, 201 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: the Twitters of the world are facing now based on 202 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: regulatory investigations or do you think they've been emboldened now 203 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: given how much and how impactful they were that twenty 204 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty four could be worse. Where 205 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: do we go from here? I think we saw what 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: happened after twenty twenty, and this is partly why the 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: media don't want people to talk about the election, is 208 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: because they want to continue the operation certain things that 209 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: were done, like Mark Zuckerberg's private takeover of government election 210 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: off where he spent about as much money as the 211 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: federal government did to run the election and to embed 212 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: left wing activists into it. Some states have made that illegal, 213 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: some states haven't, so it can either continue or not continue, 214 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: depending on what the state law is. But in general, 215 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I think tech companies do feel emboldened. They might be 216 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: a little surprised if they're not receiving more gratitude from 217 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, but see that as it may. I 218 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: think they feel emboldened, and you're seeing Democrats trying to 219 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: ensconce into permanent laws some of the changes that they 220 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: wrought in twenty twenty to create more inconsistency and chaos 221 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: in our election processes. That's kind of a feature for them, 222 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: even if it's a bug for most people to look 223 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: at what happened after twenty twenty and be like, I 224 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: don't know if we should have to wait weeks to 225 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: find out how many people voted, much less who they 226 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: voted for. But you'll see these battles continuing to matter 227 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: because this wasn't just about stopping Donald Trump. This is 228 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: about power going forward for whole parties and for whole movements. 229 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: The last question for you, we have President Trump on 230 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: the show tomorrow in the final hour of the program 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: scheduled to be on with us. I believe you talked 232 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: with him for five hours or more as a part 233 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: of your book Rigged. What did you learn from President Trump? 234 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: And based on those conversations, do you think he is 235 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: inclined to run again in twenty twenty four in your mind? Yeah. 236 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: When I interviewed him three times for the book, and 237 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: the first interview, I wasn't quite sure if he wanted 238 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: to run again. I almost got the feeling he didn't 239 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: want to have to do it. So I think three 240 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: things are arguing in favor of him running. One, I 241 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: think he's disappointed that the Republican Party has kind of 242 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: returned to form that feckless weakness that frustrated voters so much. Too. 243 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting credit for what he did. 244 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he actually achieved quite a bit policy wise, 245 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and I think that he needs to have his legacy 246 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: affirmed for him not to want to run again. And 247 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: then finally, I think the establishment is freaking out so 248 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: much about him running that it's signaling to him that 249 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: he might need to do it again. So I don't 250 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: know if he will or won't, but it is interesting 251 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: to see how poorly the establishment responded to his initial 252 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: run and how they're how poorly they're responding to the 253 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: political situation right now. Molly Hemingway, she is the senior 254 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: editor at The Federalist. Fantastic author Go Read Rigged. I'm 255 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to reading it myself, all about the twenty 256 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: twenty presidential election and the power of big tech to 257 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: rig the outcome of this election. Molly, keep up the 258 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: good work, appreciate the time, Thank you so much. Glide bye. 259 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: That is Molly Hemingway. We will be back breakdown a 260 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: little bit more of that discussion, because I do think 261 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: the power and scope and magnitude of big tech's influence 262 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: continues to be underrated in terms of what they were 263 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: capable of pulling off in the twenty twenty election. But 264 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: that will be in a moment. First, I gotta tell 265 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: you what's the best discovery in the past month that 266 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: we've had here on the show. 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Biden will be leaving shortly for Europe, 341 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: but the latest is that there is an expectation that 342 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: there will be a vote on the Infrastructure Bill today 343 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: for Nancy Pelosi is going to schedule it in the House, 344 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: So we will wait and see. We'll continue to update 345 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: you throughout the course of today's program about what exactly 346 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: is going to take place there. In the meantime, the 347 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: battle over COVID really has ended up being red state governors, 348 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: thank the Lord, who have been standing up against the 349 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: overreach of the Biden administration. And what that's going to 350 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: end up looking like. Are the lawsuits that are being 351 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: filed who gets to make determinations for state residents. Are 352 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: we going to allow state governors to allow individuals to 353 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: make their own choices about whether or not they are 354 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: going to be vaccinated, or are we going to allow 355 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: the federal government to swoop in and say, unless you 356 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, you are not able to actually maintain your job. 357 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: So we've got lawsuits being filed in Florida today by 358 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis against the federal vaccine mandate. These involved, among 359 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: other things, federal employees who might be working at NASA 360 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: facilities in the state of Florida. This is going to 361 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: take a long time to play out. We've got lawsuits 362 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: also in the state of Texas over the battle that 363 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: is being fought there whether and again, this is significant, 364 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure everybody understands it. The 365 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: governors of Florida and Texas are not telling their citizens 366 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: you can't get vaccinated. They are in no way forbidding 367 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: any citizen from making the choice to vaccinate themselves or 368 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: their children or their family. What they are saying is 369 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: you can't be fired for refusing to do so. And 370 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: this is particularly important as we move closer and closer 371 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: to I think what is going to be a mandate 372 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: for children to be vaccinated, despite the fact that children 373 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: have almost no risk whatsoever from COVID. If you think 374 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: the mask battle was significant, it's nothing compared to what 375 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: we're going to have over the COVID vaccine mandate for children. 376 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: But I appreciate an applaud governors like Rond Santas of 377 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Florida for standing up in favor of your constitutional right 378 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: to make a choice about whether or not you are 379 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: going to be vaccinated. Earlier this morning, Rond Santas announced 380 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: his federal lawsuit against the federal government mandates and also 381 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: discussed in a little bit more detail the path from 382 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: fifteen days to stop the spread to you better get 383 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: this vaccine or you're gonna lose your job. Sometimes you 384 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: gotta just in the moment look back and think, Okay, 385 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: we've gone from fifteen days to slow the spread to 386 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: three jabs to keep your jobs. Somehow, are you kidding me? 387 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: It does violate the Constitution, it's gonna hurt the economy. 388 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: But also, this is not the end of it, Okay. 389 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I think we know. They always say, oh, well, we 390 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: just need to do this, and then they go on 391 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: to the next thing, and then the next thing and 392 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: the next thing. And so it's important for us to 393 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: take a stand not only for what's at stake here 394 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: with the folks that could be affected, but also knowing 395 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: that if you don't give resistance to this, you're going 396 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: to continue to see other things and they're going to 397 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: absolutely do more. It's important. It's an important detail because 398 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: anyone out there who has watched the slow continued growth 399 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: of federal government mandates as it pertains to the vaccine. 400 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: Back in the March of twenty twenty, you had been 401 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: told that by the time you were getting close to Halloween, 402 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: and by the way, I hope all of you are 403 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: going to have a phenomenal Halloween. My wife throws a 404 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: monster Halloween party every year, and we have got the 405 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: backyard getting tented right now. We have got an awesome 406 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: party that we're going to throw. We threw it last 407 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: year too. We had this conversation because last year COVID 408 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: was going on, it was getting close to the election, 409 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: and my wife is like, hey, do you think we 410 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: should have the party? I said, yeah, let everybody make 411 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: a choice about whether or not they want to come 412 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: to a party. If they don't want to come, if 413 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: they don't feel comfortable, that's their right. But I know 414 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: they're massive numbers of people out there that are desperate 415 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: for normalcy, and certainly this fall feels pretty normal for 416 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: most people, I think. But if you are out there 417 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: right now, and I had told you back in March 418 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, by almost no member of next year, 419 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: you are still going to be dealing with COVID, and 420 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: there are going to be mandates for a COVID vaccine, 421 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: despite the fact that many of you will have already 422 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: had it, despite the fact that the data will clearly 423 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: reflect that if you're in your twenties, your thirties, or 424 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: your forties, by and large, you have minimal, minimal, highly 425 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: minimal risk from COVID, that you would be potentially going 426 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: to lose your job, that we would be firing police officers, 427 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: that we would be firing all different sorts of people 428 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: with important jobs, firemen, healthcare workers, That all of these 429 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: people would be losing their jobs over their decision as 430 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: it pertains to the COVID virus, despite that many of 431 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: them would have had it. And by the way, as 432 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you see the recent reports from Maderna and Fiser saying, hey, 433 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: this is going to be a year shot. Now, I 434 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: don't even think we should call it the COVID vaccine. 435 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: We should call it the COVID shot. It's effectively going 436 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: to become like the flu shot. And you know what's 437 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: interesting about the flu shot is, to my knowledge, there's 438 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: almost no jobs out there that have ever mandated as 439 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: a condition of employment that you have to get the 440 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: flu shot or you're gonna get fired. Certainly that hasn't 441 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: been a case for any school district out there that 442 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: I can remember where your kids were not able to 443 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: go to school unless they got the flu shot. Now, 444 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: this is significant because the seasonal flu is more deadly 445 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: to your average young kid than COVID is and look, 446 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: there's a difference between the risk to a kindergartener and 447 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: the risk to an eighty year old. And I think 448 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: that is wildly important. But we need to start paying 449 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: attention and listening to what so many people out there 450 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: in the New York Fire Department, the EMU, and the 451 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: New York Police Department are saying about these vaccine mandates. 452 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: And listen to this rally, which you're probably not going 453 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: to hear almost anywhere else in media. Listen to this 454 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: outspoken opposition to the COVID vaccine mandate. Today we stand 455 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: united on one cause. Firefighters, fire officers, e m S, 456 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: fire dispatches, others, affinity crews of the FDNY Sanitation d S, 457 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and y N YPT, My brothers and sisters. 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Sign 493 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: up for relief Factor today. Welcome back in Clay Travis 494 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 495 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Wishing buck Sexton well as he's under the weather today, 496 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: hoping he's going to be back tomorrow. We'll be joined 497 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: by former President Donald Trump. Let me give you a 498 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: little bit of an update of what's going to happen 499 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: in the last hour here as we're rolling through the 500 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. Nancy Pelosi is scheduled to 501 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: talk at two o'clock Eastern Ish about the latest going on. 502 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: If you're just tuning in, it's been a wild day 503 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill relating to Joe Biden's budget bill, now 504 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: slashed down to around one point eight trillion dollars, and 505 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: what is going to go on with the infrastructure bill? 506 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Trying to remind you guys, because it feels like it's 507 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: been forever, and I know it has been since the 508 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Senate passed the infrastructure bill around one point two trillion dollars, 509 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: mostly on Rhodes bridges and the like, that passed the 510 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: Senate with nineteen Republican votes. The House hasn't been willing 511 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: to vote on it because they've been afraid that the 512 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Budget Reconciliation Bill, which was initially three point five trillion, 513 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: now cut down because of Joe Mansion and Kursten Cinema 514 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: to around one seven or one eight trillion. Well, that's 515 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: significant because those two bills are in some way connected. 516 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: And Nancy Pelosi wants to pass the infrastructure bill today, 517 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: but whether or not she has the votes because of 518 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: a progressive revolt remains to be seen. There is a 519 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: democratic civil war brewing. Joe Biden addressed the nation earlier today. 520 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: He also spent the morning on Capitol Hill. He is 521 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: going to Europe for the next six days, so it 522 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: remains to be seen exactly what will happen there. We'll 523 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: get an update from Nancy Pelosi. Want to remind you 524 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: as well, we're going to be joined by almost the 525 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: most dangerous man in media. It feels like in many ways, 526 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Alex Berenson. At the top of the third hour of 527 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: this program, he was initially active on social media. They 528 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: banned him. He's now on substack. Want to get the 529 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: latest on COVID from him, and tomorrow, I want to 530 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: remind you in the final hour of the program. A 531 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: good way to finish off Friday. Donald Trump is going 532 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: to join us at two thirty Eastern tomorrow, and one 533 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: of the things we're going to be asking him about 534 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: is something that I broke yesterday based on talking with 535 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: people that I know, which is that Donald Trump is 536 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: headed to Atlanta on Saturday night to be present for 537 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: the Astro's Braves game in the World Series. And you 538 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: guys know, if you listen to the show, I've been 539 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: down on the road. Flew back from Houston early this 540 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: morning because I was down there for Game one in 541 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: Game two of the World Series, phenomenal time. Thanks to 542 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: everybody in Houston that we hung out with that showed 543 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: us such an incredible experience there and what is truly 544 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: a great City and a fantastic ballpark series tied up 545 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: one one. But Donald Trump is going to be in Atlanta. 546 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta has not hosted a World Series game since nineteen 547 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: ninety nine. Okay, so this is the first World Series 548 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: game that Atlanta will have hosted this century. And what's 549 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: fascinating about this is Trump is going to be inside 550 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: of that stadium. And the controversy from a political perspective, 551 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: if you'll remember, is that Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob 552 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: Manfred pulled the All Star Game out of Atlanta over 553 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: the Georgia Voting Bill, which was a direct response to 554 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: the incredible mess in Georgia in the twenty twenty presidential 555 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: election and then the subsequent Senate races as well. So 556 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: Georgia a major battleground not only for twenty twenty, but 557 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two, when herschel Walker will be running 558 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: for the Senate against the Reverend Raphael Warnock. Herschel Walker, 559 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: obviously a good friend of Donald Trump, legendary Georgia running back. 560 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: So Georgia is going to be a battleground. What will 561 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: it sound like on Saturday for a massive television audience 562 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: when I'm telling you all those Braves fans as soon 563 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: as they showed Donald Trump on the JumboTron are going 564 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: to go absolutely bananas, because that is a Trump filled 565 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: fan stadium, trust me. And then on top of that, 566 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: when all of the let's go Brandon chants break out, 567 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: how is the media going to respond to the wildly 568 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: unpopular presidency of Joe Biden the spectacular cheering that we're 569 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: likely to see of Donald Trump in what is certain 570 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: to be a twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four 571 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: battleground state. I think this is a master political stroke 572 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump, who also, by the way, is a 573 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: lot like me. He loves politics, he also loves sports, 574 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: and he understands how often those two battlegrounds can be intertwined. 575 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: And so he's going to be on with us tomorrow 576 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: in the final hour of the program, and we're going 577 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: to ask him about the decision to go to Atlanta 578 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: for Astro's Braves, what he expects to happen in the game, 579 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: but what kind of reception he also anticipates receiving and more, 580 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: trust me, that's going to be really fascinating. We come 581 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: back in the third hour of the program. There's a 582 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of things I still want to dive into. We're 583 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to what could be one of 584 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: the major pivot points in American politics in recent history. 585 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: What's going to happen with the governor's race in Virginia 586 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: Glenn Junkin the Republican against Terry mccaulliffe, the Democrat, in 587 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: a race that is too close to call. We've got 588 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: some clips from the campaign trail there that I think 589 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: you guys are going to enjoy. Tuesday is the election, 590 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: and Glenn Junkin is surging as Terry mccaulliffe plummets. What 591 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: would the impact be if the Republicans pulled off off 592 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: a huge upset in a state that Joe Biden won 593 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: by ten points, And what would it tell us about 594 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: looking into sort of the crystal ball for the twenty 595 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty two mid terms and where they might be headed. That, 596 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: my friends, is going to be a really interesting discussion. Also, 597 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about the continuing rise and inflation. Do 598 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: you know that McDonald's has had to raise their menu 599 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: prices by six percent? Let me repeat that, because that's 600 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: a pretty significant detail because of inflationary issues both in 601 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: paychecks and also in terms of products supply McDonald's, which 602 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: trust me, doesn't want to raise their prices because that 603 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: comes directly out of your pocketbooks. McDonald's has increases their 604 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: price by six percent. That's more than the average wage 605 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: of an American household member is increasing. That means that 606 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's inflationary pressures are a default tax on all Americans. 607 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: And it's as if no one else wants to talk 608 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: about it. That McDonald's price increase is a metaphor of 609 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: the larger context that is occurring all over this country 610 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: where all of us are paying more for goods and services. 611 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: And that's, by the way, if we can find the 612 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: goods on the shelves that we want to purchase, we 613 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: will discuss that and the looming inflationary pressures that continue 614 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: to grow in the third hour of the program. But 615 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: up next, he's one of our most popular guests because 616 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: so few people will actually discuss the truth, and we 617 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: do it every single day. It's Alex Barrenson, the latest 618 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: on COVID vaccine mandates and what the data is telling 619 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: us about where we're headed. He's next on Clay and Buck. 620 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 621 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: EIB network.