Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. Sixty percent of Americans have avoided
Speaker 1: common health screenings? Are you in that sixty percent? And also,
Speaker 1: what is your excuse? And with that, I say, after
Speaker 1: scolding you, I'll say, welcome to this episode of Amy
Speaker 1: and TJ.
Speaker 2: Robes.
Speaker 1: You have been in this position before, and I was
Speaker 1: well documented. We talked about it here. You put off
Speaker 1: a very important health screening for a long time, and
Speaker 1: your reasons were BS in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: So I think all of our reasons, all of our
Speaker 2: reasons are bs because we say we're too busy. But
Speaker 2: the truth is, until you lose your health or you
Speaker 2: realize you aren't in good health, you don't fully understand
Speaker 2: how nothing else matters. And so actually it should be
Speaker 2: the one thing you prioritize over everything else. And yet
Speaker 2: most of us make excuses because who wants to go
Speaker 2: to the doctor. Who wants to be poked and prodded?
Speaker 2: So I get it. It seems uncomfortable, and it seems
Speaker 2: a lot of times unnecessary because none of us think
Speaker 2: we're going to be the one who gets that diagnosis
Speaker 2: that we have to then do something about. Intrigued and
Speaker 2: let me.
Speaker 1: Make sure, let me be clear, here it sounds like
Speaker 1: I'm getting on too.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: You were well documented on how you knew you should
Speaker 1: have been going. But also you're talking to a guy
Speaker 1: who if it ain't broken, ain't bleed, and I ain't going.
Speaker 1: That is the I think a lot of guys have
Speaker 1: that much. It has to be that serious for us
Speaker 1: to go get a checkup of any kind or have
Speaker 1: a doctor check us out. So I am absolutely guilty
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: Well, we actually have. If you aren't just taking our
Speaker 2: word for it or the survey's word for it. You know,
Speaker 2: every time we hear and I am always so impressed
Speaker 2: with anyone who is in the public guy who's willing
Speaker 2: to come forward and be vulnerable and share with the
Speaker 2: rest of the world something that they're personally experiencing. And oftentimes,
Speaker 2: when you're going through any kind of an illness, it
Speaker 2: can be debilitating, It can be embarrassing, it can be humiliating.
Speaker 2: You feel weak, you feel less then and for those
Speaker 2: folks who are brave enough to say, hey, this and
Speaker 2: to me it always serves as an incredible wake up
Speaker 2: call to anyone else who may be dragging their feet
Speaker 2: for making any kind of important doctor's appointment or even
Speaker 2: just that annual appointment that we all need to make
Speaker 2: sure we know we're in a good place with health.
Speaker 2: So one of those women is just step forward actually
Speaker 2: in the recent months, and she is with us on
Speaker 2: the podcast today, and she will be a familiar voice,
Speaker 2: a familiar face, and a familiar name to many of you.
Speaker 2: She grew up on TV screens across America, and if
Speaker 2: you loved the show Boy Meets World or the show
Speaker 2: that followed Girl Meets World, you know Tapanga and you
Speaker 2: know Danielle Fischel, and she is our guest today on
Speaker 2: the podcast. Danielle, thank you so much for being with us.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me and being willing
Speaker 3: to have this conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you have joined the sisterhood that none of
Speaker 2: us want to be a part of. And I joined
Speaker 2: eleven years ago. You have a more recent history with
Speaker 2: and in fact, you just told everyone in August, just
Speaker 2: a few months ago, Danil, that you were diagnosed with
Speaker 2: breast cancer. So I want to ask you, first of all,
Speaker 2: how you are doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing really well. As you mentioned, I was diagnosed
Speaker 3: just a couple months ago. I was actually diagnosed in
Speaker 3: July twenty second. So it's only been two months, really
Speaker 3: since three months since my diagnosis, and I mobilized very quickly.
Speaker 3: I took it very seriously. I wanted to know all
Speaker 3: the information. I wanted to have all the options in
Speaker 3: front of me and figure out what was my best
Speaker 3: path forward. And I realized very quickly, just from talking
Speaker 3: to my friends that a lot of them had said, oh,
Speaker 3: I've never had a mammogram, Oh I haven't had one
Speaker 3: for two years, or my mom hasn't been since before
Speaker 3: the pandemic in twenty twenty. And shortly after that, I
Speaker 3: came across the Affleck Wellness Matter survey and it mentioned
Speaker 3: that sixty five percent of millennials have avoided their yearly screenings.
Speaker 3: And last year my mammogram was clean. So I can
Speaker 3: really speak to the testament of in just a year,
Speaker 3: you can go from no cancer to getting a cancer diagnosis.
Speaker 3: And I knew that if it were happening in my
Speaker 3: friends and that stat of sixty five percent of millennials,
Speaker 3: I knew I could really speak to them and say,
Speaker 3: you need to start taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1: Why were you so diligent? You didn't have a family history.
Speaker 1: But from my understanding, you were on this like clockwork.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the American Cancer Society recommends that you start
Speaker 3: mammograms at forty and I was pregnant at forty and
Speaker 3: I was nursing at forty one, so my first mammogram
Speaker 3: was at forty two. And I do like to give
Speaker 3: credit to my family. My parents were both really diligent
Speaker 3: and still are really diligent about their own health screenings.
Speaker 3: I grew up hearing from my mom about mammograms and
Speaker 3: also hearing how awful and painful and miserable they were.
Speaker 3: And even though I was not looking forward to a
Speaker 3: mammogram because of those stories, I knew that it was
Speaker 3: just kind of one of our family values that we
Speaker 3: get our screenings when they're necessary. His mom died from
Speaker 3: leukemia and she chose to keep it a secret, and
Speaker 3: my mom didn't find out that her mom had cancer
Speaker 3: until three days before she died, and I think that
Speaker 3: was one of the things that really impacted my mom
Speaker 3: into saying, as part of our value system, we take
Speaker 3: care of ourselves and when something comes up, we share
Speaker 3: it with families so that we can rally around each
Speaker 3: other and help support each other, which is exactly what
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: When I was diagnosed, daniel can I ask you and
Speaker 1: robok here actually because you said something I hadn't thought
Speaker 1: that much about. You grew up hearing how miserable they were.
Speaker 1: You grew up hearing a mammogram with something bad. This
Speaker 1: is a bad day at the office. So how much
Speaker 1: does that actually factor around? There is that still in
Speaker 1: women's psyche to this day, to where they're turned off
Speaker 1: by it because they've heard so much negative something about
Speaker 1: a mammogram from the family.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Danielle, when I had my baseline mammogram only
Speaker 2: because I had a work assignment asking me to do
Speaker 2: a Mamma Van mammogram in the middle of Times Square
Speaker 2: to promote Breast Cancer Awareness Month, to encourage other women
Speaker 2: and to get their screening. But when I walked into
Speaker 2: that Mamma Van at that point, the recommendation was fifty
Speaker 2: not forty, and I was not going to get a
Speaker 2: test ten years before some board recommended that I do it. Also, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to have my breasts flattened and squeezed.
Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't feel good. Of course it doesn't.
Speaker 2: So if I hadn't gotten that push into the Mamma
Speaker 2: Van for a work assignment. I don't know that I'd
Speaker 2: be sitting next to you right now because I didn't
Speaker 2: have family history and the recommendation was fifty at the time,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, and I had been advocating for it from
Speaker 2: the moment I was diagnosed that the recommendation needed to
Speaker 2: go back to forty. But yeah, we all put off
Speaker 2: things that were painful, and I think most of us
Speaker 2: believe it can't happen to us, or it won't happen
Speaker 2: to us. Danielle. It's interesting you had a family where
Speaker 2: your mom knew it could and did, and it was
Speaker 2: important to get on top of it. And to your point,
Speaker 2: you were on top of it. I was diagnosed stage two.
Speaker 2: It had already spread to my lipnodes, so I ended
Speaker 2: up with chemo and all sorts of other interventions that
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been necessary had I caught it earlier. You
Speaker 2: caught yours very early. You were stage zero, and that
Speaker 2: is I mean that, amen, hallelujah. Early detection saves lives
Speaker 2: and you are living, breathing proof of it.
Speaker 3: I am. And the technology is evolving so fast. I know,
Speaker 3: you know, mammograms are still not like, oh boy, I
Speaker 3: can't wait to go. It's so so fun. But honestly,
Speaker 3: compared to what I had been told that I could
Speaker 3: experience with a mammogram, I was really pleasantly surprised that
Speaker 3: it wasn't as awful as I had been led to believe.
Speaker 3: And I want you to know that, because if that's
Speaker 3: one of the reasons you're putting it off, you can
Speaker 3: do hard things. You can get through it. It's relatively
Speaker 3: fast and for me, a lot of anxiety rely like
Speaker 3: lies in the unknown, knowing no one wants to hear
Speaker 3: that you have cancer. Like you said, it's not news
Speaker 3: you want to get. You hear that phone call. You're scared,
Speaker 3: You're completely overwhelmed. You immediately run to Google, and Google
Speaker 3: is filled with all kinds of scary things. But at
Speaker 3: least once I knew what I had, I knew I
Speaker 3: could start a plan. There could be a plan that
Speaker 3: put in that I could put into action, and that
Speaker 3: gave me some semblance of control. And I also know
Speaker 3: that The afflic Wellness Matters survey showed that seventy five
Speaker 3: percent of people say that they really appreciate when a
Speaker 3: friend or family member encourages them to go and have
Speaker 3: their exams, and for me, that was something that really
Speaker 3: made me feel good because I don't want to be
Speaker 3: a nag to anybody. I don't want to feel like
Speaker 3: I'm asking people to do things y'or butting into somebody's business.
Speaker 3: But if it's your time to get a mammogram, it's
Speaker 3: probably your best friend's time. Best friend time get a mammogram,
Speaker 3: so you can say to her, let's go together, Let's
Speaker 3: turn this into something fun. Let's get coffee after, let's
Speaker 3: go shopping. If you have that ability, gather some people
Speaker 3: around you and say, let's all take care of ourselves,
Speaker 3: because we tend to put ourselves last.
Speaker 2: I love that, Danielle, and you know what, you know
Speaker 2: what I say too, because you're right. I also want
Speaker 2: to say it didn't hurt anywhere near as bad as
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to, so that is very
Speaker 2: important to say. But I also have said, you know
Speaker 2: what hurts a lot more chemo double mistectomies, being on
Speaker 2: medication for the rest of your life, and the anxiety.
Speaker 2: All that's way worse than going and getting your mammogram
Speaker 2: and having peace of mind because more than likely it's
Speaker 2: going to be clean, it's going to be clear, and
Speaker 2: you're going to be able to breathe that sigh of
Speaker 2: relief at least for a year until your next mammogram.
Speaker 2: But it's better to know because knowledge is power, and
Speaker 2: you're right. I let you can take action. And when
Speaker 2: you actually have that information, there is so many there
Speaker 2: are so many options for women right now. So I
Speaker 2: love this message and I can't believe you're just already
Speaker 2: in this amazing headspace, Danielle, three months into your diagnosis.
Speaker 2: It took me about two years before I could come
Speaker 2: out of the fog and the fear.
Speaker 3: You know, I really have to give so much credit
Speaker 3: to the breast cancer community that you are a part of.
Speaker 3: I have felt so enveloped, so warm, like a massive
Speaker 3: embrace from the breast cancer community who just reached out
Speaker 3: to me, whether I knew them or not, saying Hi,
Speaker 3: I have resources for you, I have doctors for you.
Speaker 3: I'm here if you want to talk. Let me send
Speaker 3: you the link to the best supportive brad that I
Speaker 3: found for post surgery. Here's information I found on radiation
Speaker 3: if you're interested. Here's been my experience ontomoxifen. I spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time in the breast cancer Reddit and
Speaker 3: so special. Shout out to those breast cancer redditors because
Speaker 3: they are so open and honest and want to share
Speaker 3: their experiences and can It's it's a community you never
Speaker 3: want to join, but if you ever have to join us,
Speaker 3: I promise you you are in the best company.
Speaker 1: Danielle, what's your prognosis right now? What doctors told you
Speaker 1: about what you're going to have to do now for
Speaker 1: the I guess the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I will definitely need to be on hormone therapy.
Speaker 3: Cancer was estrogen positive, so I'll need to go on
Speaker 3: some sort of estrogen blocker, which, you know, another thing
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly looking forward to. I've heard mixed results
Speaker 3: about those side effects. And I also will most likely
Speaker 3: need to have targeted radiation. Possibly we'll breast radiation. I
Speaker 3: have a few appointments coming up next week next week
Speaker 3: with some radiation oncologists, and those decisions will be made
Speaker 3: with my team, and you know, I still have that
Speaker 3: part of it in front of me. But being able
Speaker 3: to stay focused on my family, the community around me,
Speaker 3: and very specifically spreading this message has been so helpful
Speaker 3: to me because it really stopped me from turning inward
Speaker 3: and kind of yeah, focusing on all the fear that
Speaker 3: could be there and knowing that it's making a difference
Speaker 3: and it's having a positive impact on others has helped
Speaker 3: me more than anyone will ever know.
Speaker 2: Daniel I am and I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 2: And I just I am so impressed with you and
Speaker 2: where you are. And if you want any side conversation,
Speaker 2: you can call me. I was on tom oxyphon for
Speaker 2: eight years and I'm a big advocate for that because
Speaker 2: I remember my oncologist told me the tomoxofin is more
Speaker 2: important than the chemo actually when it comes to results.
Speaker 2: So if you want to have a side conversation about it,
Speaker 2: I can tell you it's not as bad as people
Speaker 2: say it is. I think, very similar to the Mammi grand.
Speaker 3: You want to hear all.
Speaker 1: About we're all together. I've been hearing about from you.
Speaker 2: Just get ready for the hot flashes. That's all I
Speaker 2: have to say. But tell us about looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: It beats a lot of other things though, and we're
Speaker 2: here to talk about it, and that's that's important. And Danielle,
Speaker 2: I know that you were and I felt the same way.
Speaker 2: Work and staying busy and staying active. I know, you've
Speaker 2: got two young children, you've got your your wonderful husband,
Speaker 2: who I read it was a difficult conversation to tell
Speaker 2: him that you had cancer because both his parents. He
Speaker 2: lost both of his parents to cancer. So that's just
Speaker 2: these are tough conversations and scary conversations, but when you
Speaker 2: have them, that's how you get them. But going to
Speaker 2: work and keeping yourself busy, it how important was that
Speaker 2: to you and tell us what you're doing professionally and
Speaker 2: personally right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really important to me to be able
Speaker 3: to stay focused on work. And it was actually one
Speaker 3: of the decisions that went into me deciding to have
Speaker 3: a lumpectomy versus a double mess ectomy. Thankfully, I don't
Speaker 3: have any of the Broca genes or other genes that
Speaker 3: could make me more susceptible to cancer in the future,
Speaker 3: so that also played a factor. But I had you know,
Speaker 3: I've been working since twenty seventeen to be a full
Speaker 3: time director behind the camera, and I had five weeks
Speaker 3: of work directing a show called Lopez Versus Lopez for
Speaker 3: NBC starring George Lopez and Myy and Lopez and it
Speaker 3: was starting on August twenty first, and I got my
Speaker 3: diagnosis on July twenty second, and I asked all the
Speaker 3: doctors I met with, is there any reason I can't
Speaker 3: put surgery off until, say, mid October, when I'm done directing,
Speaker 3: And they all recommended to me that I not do that.
Speaker 3: They said, cancer is cancer, and my specific type was
Speaker 3: high grade, so it was aggressive. And they said, it
Speaker 3: doesn't send you a memo when it decides that it's
Speaker 3: going to spread, and so we don't recommend that you
Speaker 3: wait two months. And I said, okay, I do not
Speaker 3: want to lose this opportunity for this work. How quickly
Speaker 3: can I get in for surgery and how quickly will
Speaker 3: I be able to recover? And so I had surgery
Speaker 3: on August thirteenth, and I was at work on eight
Speaker 3: twenty one, and I worked through it. I wore my compression,
Speaker 3: brought a work and I managed. I was tired and
Speaker 3: I was a little swollen, but I had great people
Speaker 3: around me. Staying busy, staying focused was very helpful. So
Speaker 3: I'm really lucky.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to and you will, please if I'm
Speaker 1: totally out of line here, Danielle Robes, you all tell me.
Speaker 1: But from my vantage point, I've covered this for a
Speaker 1: long time, and we do breast cancer awareness and I
Speaker 1: wear a pink tie every year on certain days and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. But Danielle, I don't feel like I
Speaker 1: see your story highlighted enough as the success story. You
Speaker 1: caught it early, your prognosis is great, and I think
Speaker 1: so often and I'm not taking anything away from with
Speaker 1: stage two and three and four. We talk about metastatic
Speaker 1: and we hear often these stories of these fighters, and
Speaker 1: those are brilliant, beautiful stories. But am I crazy in
Speaker 1: thinking that the face of and we don't Sometimes I
Speaker 1: feel like we're not highlighting what Danielle is talking about,
Speaker 1: which was this is a success story of why you
Speaker 1: have to do this and the prognosis is good? Am
Speaker 1: I crazy?
Speaker 2: You get? When I'm here? I think people end up
Speaker 2: highlighting or telling more dramatic stories, and not that your
Speaker 2: story isn't dramatic, but the ones that might be scarier
Speaker 2: are the ones that seem more Okay, it's not just
Speaker 2: me fearful, but yeo, you don't hear about I don't
Speaker 2: think you hear enough women coming forward and saying I
Speaker 2: had stage zero and I have stage zero because I
Speaker 2: caught it early, and I caught it early because I
Speaker 2: made my appointment.
Speaker 1: So Danielle, you feel that why are we your story
Speaker 1: should be repeated and repeated and repeated.
Speaker 3: Well, it is really important, specifically again because the Affleck
Speaker 3: Wellness Matter survey also showed that fifty six percent of
Speaker 3: people who are diagnosed with cancer are diagnosed exactly how
Speaker 3: I was, which is during a routine screening. It's not
Speaker 3: because they feel a lump, it's not because they have
Speaker 3: other symptoms. It's because they stayed on top of a
Speaker 3: yearly exam. And so that is the only reason I
Speaker 3: found out I had no symptoms. I had no lump,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have for a long time, and then by
Speaker 3: the time I may have experienced a symptom, it could
Speaker 3: have been significantly more difficult to treat. So that's what
Speaker 3: I also wanted to share with people is that while
Speaker 3: no one still wants to get that phone call, hey,
Speaker 3: you have cancer. There's that is such a scary word
Speaker 3: for everyone, but finding out you have stage zero cancer
Speaker 3: is very, very treatable. And my hope is that if
Speaker 3: you do have to get that call, you get the
Speaker 3: call like I did that is you just developed cancer
Speaker 3: and we found it like that, that's the best way
Speaker 3: to have to hear that news.
Speaker 2: I just got chills when you said that, because that
Speaker 2: is the best way to get the worst news possible.
Speaker 2: How are your kids doing? How is your family doing?
Speaker 2: How did they handle the news? And talk about how
Speaker 2: important that was for you to tell, to tell the
Speaker 2: story in the right way and to get the support
Speaker 2: you needed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my family is doing really well.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: You know, it was hard for me to have to
Speaker 3: tell my husband. As you mentioned, both of his parents pasted.
Speaker 3: His mom died in twenty twenty two from lung cancer,
Speaker 3: and she lived with us while she was going through
Speaker 3: chemo and through her cancer treatment. And my oldest son, Adler,
Speaker 3: was three when she passed, and he was very close
Speaker 3: to her. And one of my big concerns when he asked, Boar,
Speaker 3: did Granna go? Why is Granna not here anymore? My
Speaker 3: big concern was that if we tell her, if we
Speaker 3: tell him that she was sick, he's going to think
Speaker 3: the next time he gets a cold that he's going
Speaker 3: to die, or that the next time mommy or daddy
Speaker 3: is sick, he's going to think we're going to die,
Speaker 3: and so I wanted to be honest with him about
Speaker 3: the fact that she had cancer and that cancer doesn't
Speaker 3: always mean that you die, but sometimes it does, and
Speaker 3: in Grandmaw's case, that's what it was. And so when
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed, my fear was I'm normally so honest
Speaker 3: with my kids, but I can't tell them I have cancer.
Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't handle that possibility that they're
Speaker 3: going to worry about me in that way.
Speaker 2: So they didn't.
Speaker 3: They never They don't know that I had cancer, but
Speaker 3: they do know that I had a booboo that I
Speaker 3: had surgically removed from my body, and they needed to
Speaker 3: be gentle with me. I told them, I love our
Speaker 3: bear hugs and I love wrestling with you, but my
Speaker 3: booboo means that I need to be I need to
Speaker 3: be gentle, so you need to hug me from this side,
Speaker 3: and eventually I'll get back to wrestling with you. And
Speaker 3: when that did happen that I was able to wrestle
Speaker 3: with them and swing them around, Adler stopped and he said.
Speaker 2: Mommy, is your booboo all better?
Speaker 3: And I was so happy to tell him that, yes,
Speaker 3: my booboo was all better. And yeah, my family is great.
Speaker 3: And my mom was there with me for my surgeries,
Speaker 3: my dad and his wife were right there, my friends,
Speaker 3: my family, breast cancer community. I have never felt more
Speaker 3: loved and supported than I have in these last three months.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I have said I have never
Speaker 2: met a happier group of people than people who are
Speaker 2: fighting or have fought cancer, Because you get it, you
Speaker 2: get how important every day is. Every minute is in
Speaker 2: a way that maybe some people haven't had the opportunity
Speaker 2: to experience, where you realize how lucky we all are
Speaker 2: to be here, and there's just this joy, and there's
Speaker 2: just this gratitude about life, about every day, about every moment.
Speaker 2: How has your life changed since you got this diagnosis?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I really am hoping looking forward. I'm
Speaker 3: really hoping that this journey makes me become the type
Speaker 3: of person who says, oh, I let all sorts of
Speaker 3: little things just roll off my back. But thus far,
Speaker 3: I'm still extremely type A. I'm still extremely controlling. I
Speaker 3: still have road rage. It hasn't changed me as much
Speaker 3: as I would want it.
Speaker 2: I love at answer, though, I mean, yes, I there
Speaker 2: are moments for it all comes back. You can remember it,
Speaker 2: but then still sometimes you just get stuck in the
Speaker 2: minutia of the moment and you forget.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing, man, isn't it good to forget?
Speaker 3: My son said to me. Really, yeah, my son said
Speaker 3: to me the other day, he said, Man, every person
Speaker 3: in this city is a bad driver. Because mom says
Speaker 3: it everything for me to stop saying all my thoughts
Speaker 3: out loud.
Speaker 2: They're little sponges, those children, you know, they really are.
Speaker 3: But before we listen, I do appreciate my health. I
Speaker 3: appreciate my health more now than I ever have. It
Speaker 3: has really inspired me to pay more attention to the
Speaker 3: food that I'm eating. It has inspired me to get
Speaker 3: into a healthy exercise regimen. That is definitely something that
Speaker 3: being a busy, working outside the home mother of two,
Speaker 3: I have let slide, like, yes, I will pick up
Speaker 3: this fast food I don't have time to make something,
Speaker 3: or I will work out tomorrow, which turns into next week,
Speaker 3: which turns into next month. And once I got the
Speaker 3: go ahead from my doctors that I'm able to start
Speaker 3: working out again, it has definitely made me appreciate my
Speaker 3: health and to take the things I have control over,
Speaker 3: like those items into my own hands, because there's so
Speaker 3: much we can't control.
Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you are taking this by the horns and
Speaker 2: you are. I love that you are being so open
Speaker 2: and so forthcoming about what you went through, how you
Speaker 2: found your cancer, and how phenomenal your prognosis is. I
Speaker 2: hope it inspires women everywhere who are listening to make
Speaker 2: their appointments and people, men, women, children, whatever, whoever you are,
Speaker 2: your health is important and it's up to us to
Speaker 2: make sure that we take it seriously and then we
Speaker 2: put ourselves first. And you are the poster woman for it.
Speaker 2: And I'm just so proud of you and so honored
Speaker 2: to be in a community with you, and I just
Speaker 2: appreciate your message so much. Danielle, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for being with us.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you both so much, And thank you for
Speaker 3: your honesty and vulnerability to Amy. I appreciate it.