1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. Sixty percent of Americans have avoided 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: common health screenings? Are you in that sixty percent? And also, 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: what is your excuse? And with that, I say, after 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: scolding you, I'll say, welcome to this episode of Amy 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and TJ. 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Robes. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: You have been in this position before, and I was 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: well documented. We talked about it here. You put off 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: a very important health screening for a long time, and 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: your reasons were BS in a lot of ways. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 2: So I think all of our reasons, all of our 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: reasons are bs because we say we're too busy. But 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: the truth is, until you lose your health or you 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: realize you aren't in good health, you don't fully understand 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: how nothing else matters. And so actually it should be 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: the one thing you prioritize over everything else. And yet 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: most of us make excuses because who wants to go 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: to the doctor. Who wants to be poked and prodded? 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: So I get it. It seems uncomfortable, and it seems 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: a lot of times unnecessary because none of us think 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: we're going to be the one who gets that diagnosis 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: that we have to then do something about. Intrigued and 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: let me. 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Make sure, let me be clear, here it sounds like 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting on too. 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: You. 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: You were well documented on how you knew you should 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: have been going. But also you're talking to a guy 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: who if it ain't broken, ain't bleed, and I ain't going. 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: That is the I think a lot of guys have 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: that much. It has to be that serious for us 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: to go get a checkup of any kind or have 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: a doctor check us out. So I am absolutely guilty 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: of that. 35 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, we actually have. If you aren't just taking our 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: word for it or the survey's word for it. You know, 37 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: every time we hear and I am always so impressed 38 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: with anyone who is in the public guy who's willing 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: to come forward and be vulnerable and share with the 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: rest of the world something that they're personally experiencing. And oftentimes, 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: when you're going through any kind of an illness, it 42 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: can be debilitating, It can be embarrassing, it can be humiliating. 43 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: You feel weak, you feel less then and for those 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: folks who are brave enough to say, hey, this and 45 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: to me it always serves as an incredible wake up 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: call to anyone else who may be dragging their feet 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: for making any kind of important doctor's appointment or even 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: just that annual appointment that we all need to make 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: sure we know we're in a good place with health. 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: So one of those women is just step forward actually 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: in the recent months, and she is with us on 52 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: the podcast today, and she will be a familiar voice, 53 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: a familiar face, and a familiar name to many of you. 54 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: She grew up on TV screens across America, and if 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: you loved the show Boy Meets World or the show 56 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: that followed Girl Meets World, you know Tapanga and you 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: know Danielle Fischel, and she is our guest today on 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: the podcast. Danielle, thank you so much for being with us. 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me and being willing 60 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: to have this conversation. 61 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you have joined the sisterhood that none of 62 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: us want to be a part of. And I joined 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: eleven years ago. You have a more recent history with 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: and in fact, you just told everyone in August, just 65 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: a few months ago, Danil, that you were diagnosed with 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: breast cancer. So I want to ask you, first of all, 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: how you are doing. 68 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing really well. As you mentioned, I was diagnosed 69 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: just a couple months ago. I was actually diagnosed in 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: July twenty second. So it's only been two months, really 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: since three months since my diagnosis, and I mobilized very quickly. 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: I took it very seriously. I wanted to know all 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: the information. I wanted to have all the options in 74 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: front of me and figure out what was my best 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: path forward. And I realized very quickly, just from talking 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: to my friends that a lot of them had said, oh, 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: I've never had a mammogram, Oh I haven't had one 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: for two years, or my mom hasn't been since before 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: the pandemic in twenty twenty. And shortly after that, I 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: came across the Affleck Wellness Matter survey and it mentioned 81 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: that sixty five percent of millennials have avoided their yearly screenings. 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: And last year my mammogram was clean. So I can 83 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: really speak to the testament of in just a year, 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: you can go from no cancer to getting a cancer diagnosis. 85 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: And I knew that if it were happening in my 86 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: friends and that stat of sixty five percent of millennials, 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: I knew I could really speak to them and say, 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: you need to start taking care of yourself. 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Why were you so diligent? You didn't have a family history. 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: But from my understanding, you were on this like clockwork. 91 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the American Cancer Society recommends that you start 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: mammograms at forty and I was pregnant at forty and 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: I was nursing at forty one, so my first mammogram 94 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: was at forty two. And I do like to give 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: credit to my family. My parents were both really diligent 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: and still are really diligent about their own health screenings. 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: I grew up hearing from my mom about mammograms and 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: also hearing how awful and painful and miserable they were. 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: And even though I was not looking forward to a 100 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: mammogram because of those stories, I knew that it was 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: just kind of one of our family values that we 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: get our screenings when they're necessary. His mom died from 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: leukemia and she chose to keep it a secret, and 104 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: my mom didn't find out that her mom had cancer 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: until three days before she died, and I think that 106 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: was one of the things that really impacted my mom 107 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: into saying, as part of our value system, we take 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: care of ourselves and when something comes up, we share 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: it with families so that we can rally around each 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: other and help support each other, which is exactly what 111 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: I did. 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: When I was diagnosed, daniel can I ask you and 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: robok here actually because you said something I hadn't thought 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: that much about. You grew up hearing how miserable they were. 115 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: You grew up hearing a mammogram with something bad. This 116 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: is a bad day at the office. So how much 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: does that actually factor around? There is that still in 118 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: women's psyche to this day, to where they're turned off 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: by it because they've heard so much negative something about 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a mammogram from the family. 121 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Danielle, when I had my baseline mammogram only 122 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: because I had a work assignment asking me to do 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: a Mamma Van mammogram in the middle of Times Square 124 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: to promote Breast Cancer Awareness Month, to encourage other women 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: and to get their screening. But when I walked into 126 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: that Mamma Van at that point, the recommendation was fifty 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: not forty, and I was not going to get a 128 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: test ten years before some board recommended that I do it. Also, yeah, 129 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: I didn't want to have my breasts flattened and squeezed. 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't feel good. Of course it doesn't. 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: So if I hadn't gotten that push into the Mamma 132 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: Van for a work assignment. I don't know that I'd 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: be sitting next to you right now because I didn't 134 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: have family history and the recommendation was fifty at the time, 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: thank goodness, and I had been advocating for it from 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: the moment I was diagnosed that the recommendation needed to 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: go back to forty. But yeah, we all put off 138 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: things that were painful, and I think most of us 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: believe it can't happen to us, or it won't happen 140 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: to us. Danielle. It's interesting you had a family where 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: your mom knew it could and did, and it was 142 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: important to get on top of it. And to your point, 143 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: you were on top of it. I was diagnosed stage two. 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: It had already spread to my lipnodes, so I ended 145 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: up with chemo and all sorts of other interventions that 146 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been necessary had I caught it earlier. You 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: caught yours very early. You were stage zero, and that 148 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 2: is I mean that, amen, hallelujah. Early detection saves lives 149 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: and you are living, breathing proof of it. 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: I am. And the technology is evolving so fast. I know, 151 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: you know, mammograms are still not like, oh boy, I 152 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: can't wait to go. It's so so fun. But honestly, 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: compared to what I had been told that I could 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: experience with a mammogram, I was really pleasantly surprised that 155 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't as awful as I had been led to believe. 156 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: And I want you to know that, because if that's 157 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: one of the reasons you're putting it off, you can 158 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: do hard things. You can get through it. It's relatively 159 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: fast and for me, a lot of anxiety rely like 160 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: lies in the unknown, knowing no one wants to hear 161 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: that you have cancer. Like you said, it's not news 162 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 3: you want to get. You hear that phone call. You're scared, 163 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: You're completely overwhelmed. You immediately run to Google, and Google 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: is filled with all kinds of scary things. But at 165 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: least once I knew what I had, I knew I 166 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: could start a plan. There could be a plan that 167 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: put in that I could put into action, and that 168 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: gave me some semblance of control. And I also know 169 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: that The afflic Wellness Matters survey showed that seventy five 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: percent of people say that they really appreciate when a 171 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: friend or family member encourages them to go and have 172 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: their exams, and for me, that was something that really 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: made me feel good because I don't want to be 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: a nag to anybody. I don't want to feel like 175 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: I'm asking people to do things y'or butting into somebody's business. 176 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: But if it's your time to get a mammogram, it's 177 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: probably your best friend's time. Best friend time get a mammogram, 178 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: so you can say to her, let's go together, Let's 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: turn this into something fun. Let's get coffee after, let's 180 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: go shopping. If you have that ability, gather some people 181 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: around you and say, let's all take care of ourselves, 182 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: because we tend to put ourselves last. 183 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: I love that, Danielle, and you know what, you know 184 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: what I say too, because you're right. I also want 185 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: to say it didn't hurt anywhere near as bad as 186 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to, so that is very 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: important to say. But I also have said, you know 188 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: what hurts a lot more chemo double mistectomies, being on 189 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: medication for the rest of your life, and the anxiety. 190 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: All that's way worse than going and getting your mammogram 191 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: and having peace of mind because more than likely it's 192 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: going to be clean, it's going to be clear, and 193 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: you're going to be able to breathe that sigh of 194 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: relief at least for a year until your next mammogram. 195 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: But it's better to know because knowledge is power, and 196 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: you're right. I let you can take action. And when 197 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: you actually have that information, there is so many there 198 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: are so many options for women right now. So I 199 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: love this message and I can't believe you're just already 200 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: in this amazing headspace, Danielle, three months into your diagnosis. 201 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: It took me about two years before I could come 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: out of the fog and the fear. 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: You know, I really have to give so much credit 204 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: to the breast cancer community that you are a part of. 205 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: I have felt so enveloped, so warm, like a massive 206 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: embrace from the breast cancer community who just reached out 207 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: to me, whether I knew them or not, saying Hi, 208 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: I have resources for you, I have doctors for you. 209 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm here if you want to talk. Let me send 210 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: you the link to the best supportive brad that I 211 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: found for post surgery. Here's information I found on radiation 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: if you're interested. Here's been my experience ontomoxifen. I spent 213 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: a lot of time in the breast cancer Reddit and 214 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: so special. Shout out to those breast cancer redditors because 215 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: they are so open and honest and want to share 216 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: their experiences and can It's it's a community you never 217 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: want to join, but if you ever have to join us, 218 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: I promise you you are in the best company. 219 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Danielle, what's your prognosis right now? What doctors told you 220 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: about what you're going to have to do now for 221 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: the I guess the rest of your life. 222 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I will definitely need to be on hormone therapy. 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: Cancer was estrogen positive, so I'll need to go on 224 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: some sort of estrogen blocker, which, you know, another thing 225 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly looking forward to. I've heard mixed results 226 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: about those side effects. And I also will most likely 227 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: need to have targeted radiation. Possibly we'll breast radiation. I 228 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: have a few appointments coming up next week next week 229 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: with some radiation oncologists, and those decisions will be made 230 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: with my team, and you know, I still have that 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: part of it in front of me. But being able 232 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: to stay focused on my family, the community around me, 233 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: and very specifically spreading this message has been so helpful 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: to me because it really stopped me from turning inward 235 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: and kind of yeah, focusing on all the fear that 236 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: could be there and knowing that it's making a difference 237 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: and it's having a positive impact on others has helped 238 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: me more than anyone will ever know. 239 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: Daniel I am and I couldn't agree with you more. 240 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: And I just I am so impressed with you and 241 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: where you are. And if you want any side conversation, 242 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: you can call me. I was on tom oxyphon for 243 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: eight years and I'm a big advocate for that because 244 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: I remember my oncologist told me the tomoxofin is more 245 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: important than the chemo actually when it comes to results. 246 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: So if you want to have a side conversation about it, 247 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: I can tell you it's not as bad as people 248 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: say it is. I think, very similar to the Mammi grand. 249 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: You want to hear all. 250 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: About we're all together. I've been hearing about from you. 251 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: Just get ready for the hot flashes. That's all I 252 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: have to say. But tell us about looking forward to that. 253 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: It beats a lot of other things though, and we're 254 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: here to talk about it, and that's that's important. And Danielle, 255 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: I know that you were and I felt the same way. 256 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Work and staying busy and staying active. I know, you've 257 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: got two young children, you've got your your wonderful husband, 258 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: who I read it was a difficult conversation to tell 259 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: him that you had cancer because both his parents. He 260 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: lost both of his parents to cancer. So that's just 261 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: these are tough conversations and scary conversations, but when you 262 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: have them, that's how you get them. But going to 263 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: work and keeping yourself busy, it how important was that 264 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: to you and tell us what you're doing professionally and 265 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: personally right now? 266 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really important to me to be able 267 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: to stay focused on work. And it was actually one 268 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: of the decisions that went into me deciding to have 269 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: a lumpectomy versus a double mess ectomy. Thankfully, I don't 270 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: have any of the Broca genes or other genes that 271 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: could make me more susceptible to cancer in the future, 272 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: so that also played a factor. But I had you know, 273 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: I've been working since twenty seventeen to be a full 274 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: time director behind the camera, and I had five weeks 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: of work directing a show called Lopez Versus Lopez for 276 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: NBC starring George Lopez and Myy and Lopez and it 277 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: was starting on August twenty first, and I got my 278 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: diagnosis on July twenty second, and I asked all the 279 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: doctors I met with, is there any reason I can't 280 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 3: put surgery off until, say, mid October, when I'm done directing, 281 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: And they all recommended to me that I not do that. 282 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: They said, cancer is cancer, and my specific type was 283 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: high grade, so it was aggressive. And they said, it 284 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 3: doesn't send you a memo when it decides that it's 285 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: going to spread, and so we don't recommend that you 286 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: wait two months. And I said, okay, I do not 287 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: want to lose this opportunity for this work. How quickly 288 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: can I get in for surgery and how quickly will 289 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: I be able to recover? And so I had surgery 290 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: on August thirteenth, and I was at work on eight 291 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: twenty one, and I worked through it. I wore my compression, 292 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: brought a work and I managed. I was tired and 293 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: I was a little swollen, but I had great people 294 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: around me. Staying busy, staying focused was very helpful. So 295 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm really lucky. 296 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean to and you will, please if I'm 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: totally out of line here, Danielle Robes, you all tell me. 298 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: But from my vantage point, I've covered this for a 299 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: long time, and we do breast cancer awareness and I 300 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: wear a pink tie every year on certain days and 301 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff. But Danielle, I don't feel like I 302 00:14:53,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: see your story highlighted enough as the success story. You 303 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: caught it early, your prognosis is great, and I think 304 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: so often and I'm not taking anything away from with 305 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: stage two and three and four. We talk about metastatic 306 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: and we hear often these stories of these fighters, and 307 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: those are brilliant, beautiful stories. But am I crazy in 308 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: thinking that the face of and we don't Sometimes I 309 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: feel like we're not highlighting what Danielle is talking about, 310 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: which was this is a success story of why you 311 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: have to do this and the prognosis is good? Am 312 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I crazy? 313 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: You get? When I'm here? I think people end up 314 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: highlighting or telling more dramatic stories, and not that your 315 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: story isn't dramatic, but the ones that might be scarier 316 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: are the ones that seem more Okay, it's not just 317 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: me fearful, but yeo, you don't hear about I don't 318 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: think you hear enough women coming forward and saying I 319 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: had stage zero and I have stage zero because I 320 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: caught it early, and I caught it early because I 321 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: made my appointment. 322 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: So Danielle, you feel that why are we your story 323 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: should be repeated and repeated and repeated. 324 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: Well, it is really important, specifically again because the Affleck 325 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: Wellness Matter survey also showed that fifty six percent of 326 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: people who are diagnosed with cancer are diagnosed exactly how 327 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: I was, which is during a routine screening. It's not 328 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: because they feel a lump, it's not because they have 329 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: other symptoms. It's because they stayed on top of a 330 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: yearly exam. And so that is the only reason I 331 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: found out I had no symptoms. I had no lump, 332 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have for a long time, and then by 333 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: the time I may have experienced a symptom, it could 334 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: have been significantly more difficult to treat. So that's what 335 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: I also wanted to share with people is that while 336 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: no one still wants to get that phone call, hey, 337 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: you have cancer. There's that is such a scary word 338 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: for everyone, but finding out you have stage zero cancer 339 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: is very, very treatable. And my hope is that if 340 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: you do have to get that call, you get the 341 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: call like I did that is you just developed cancer 342 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: and we found it like that, that's the best way 343 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: to have to hear that news. 344 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: I just got chills when you said that, because that 345 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: is the best way to get the worst news possible. 346 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: How are your kids doing? How is your family doing? 347 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: How did they handle the news? And talk about how 348 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: important that was for you to tell, to tell the 349 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: story in the right way and to get the support 350 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: you needed. 351 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, my family is doing really well. 352 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: I was. 353 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: You know, it was hard for me to have to 354 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: tell my husband. As you mentioned, both of his parents pasted. 355 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: His mom died in twenty twenty two from lung cancer, 356 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: and she lived with us while she was going through 357 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: chemo and through her cancer treatment. And my oldest son, Adler, 358 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: was three when she passed, and he was very close 359 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: to her. And one of my big concerns when he asked, Boar, 360 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: did Granna go? Why is Granna not here anymore? My 361 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: big concern was that if we tell her, if we 362 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: tell him that she was sick, he's going to think 363 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: the next time he gets a cold that he's going 364 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: to die, or that the next time mommy or daddy 365 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: is sick, he's going to think we're going to die, 366 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: and so I wanted to be honest with him about 367 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: the fact that she had cancer and that cancer doesn't 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: always mean that you die, but sometimes it does, and 369 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: in Grandmaw's case, that's what it was. And so when 370 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: I was diagnosed, my fear was I'm normally so honest 371 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: with my kids, but I can't tell them I have cancer. 372 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't handle that possibility that they're 373 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: going to worry about me in that way. 374 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: So they didn't. 375 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: They never They don't know that I had cancer, but 376 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: they do know that I had a booboo that I 377 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: had surgically removed from my body, and they needed to 378 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 3: be gentle with me. I told them, I love our 379 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: bear hugs and I love wrestling with you, but my 380 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: booboo means that I need to be I need to 381 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: be gentle, so you need to hug me from this side, 382 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: and eventually I'll get back to wrestling with you. And 383 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: when that did happen that I was able to wrestle 384 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: with them and swing them around, Adler stopped and he said. 385 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Mommy, is your booboo all better? 386 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: And I was so happy to tell him that, yes, 387 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: my booboo was all better. And yeah, my family is great. 388 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: And my mom was there with me for my surgeries, 389 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: my dad and his wife were right there, my friends, 390 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: my family, breast cancer community. I have never felt more 391 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: loved and supported than I have in these last three months. 392 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I know I have said I have never 393 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: met a happier group of people than people who are 394 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: fighting or have fought cancer, Because you get it, you 395 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 2: get how important every day is. Every minute is in 396 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: a way that maybe some people haven't had the opportunity 397 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: to experience, where you realize how lucky we all are 398 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: to be here, and there's just this joy, and there's 399 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: just this gratitude about life, about every day, about every moment. 400 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: How has your life changed since you got this diagnosis? 401 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I really am hoping looking forward. I'm 402 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: really hoping that this journey makes me become the type 403 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: of person who says, oh, I let all sorts of 404 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: little things just roll off my back. But thus far, 405 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm still extremely type A. I'm still extremely controlling. I 406 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: still have road rage. It hasn't changed me as much 407 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: as I would want it. 408 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: I love at answer, though, I mean, yes, I there 409 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: are moments for it all comes back. You can remember it, 410 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: but then still sometimes you just get stuck in the 411 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 2: minutia of the moment and you forget. 412 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: That's a good thing, man, isn't it good to forget? 413 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: My son said to me. Really, yeah, my son said 414 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: to me the other day, he said, Man, every person 415 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: in this city is a bad driver. Because mom says 416 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: it everything for me to stop saying all my thoughts 417 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 3: out loud. 418 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: They're little sponges, those children, you know, they really are. 419 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: But before we listen, I do appreciate my health. I 420 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: appreciate my health more now than I ever have. It 421 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: has really inspired me to pay more attention to the 422 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: food that I'm eating. It has inspired me to get 423 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: into a healthy exercise regimen. That is definitely something that 424 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: being a busy, working outside the home mother of two, 425 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: I have let slide, like, yes, I will pick up 426 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 3: this fast food I don't have time to make something, 427 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: or I will work out tomorrow, which turns into next week, 428 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: which turns into next month. And once I got the 429 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: go ahead from my doctors that I'm able to start 430 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: working out again, it has definitely made me appreciate my 431 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: health and to take the things I have control over, 432 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: like those items into my own hands, because there's so 433 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: much we can't control. 434 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, Danielle, you are taking this by the horns and 435 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: you are. I love that you are being so open 436 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: and so forthcoming about what you went through, how you 437 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: found your cancer, and how phenomenal your prognosis is. I 438 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: hope it inspires women everywhere who are listening to make 439 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: their appointments and people, men, women, children, whatever, whoever you are, 440 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: your health is important and it's up to us to 441 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: make sure that we take it seriously and then we 442 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 2: put ourselves first. And you are the poster woman for it. 443 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 2: And I'm just so proud of you and so honored 444 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: to be in a community with you, and I just 445 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: appreciate your message so much. Danielle, thank you so much 446 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: for being with us. 447 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: I appreciate you both so much, And thank you for 448 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: your honesty and vulnerability to Amy. I appreciate it.