WEBVTT - Like the UAW, But the "A" Doesn't Stand for Auto

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the UAW, but the A doesn't stand for auto.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm strong and getty, one more thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we get to whatever that is. I've been meaning

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<v Speaker 4>so naughty. I'd been marry naughty, warning you. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>meaning to complain about Wait, geez, we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 4>micro was it called superprocessed foods ultra processed foods? So

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<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't be eating anything and that comes in a

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<v Speaker 4>plastic sack anyway. But I've been meaning to complain about

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<v Speaker 4>the plastic sacks. The modern plastic sacks are so sucky,

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of material they are. They don't rip like

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<v Speaker 4>they used to. Like, you can't open the plastic inside

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<v Speaker 4>a cereal anymore and then have it be together in

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<v Speaker 4>such a way that you can pour cereal out. It

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<v Speaker 4>shreds into different pieces and you just got to mess

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<v Speaker 4>on your hands.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny. There's an article in USA Today today

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<v Speaker 3>about that the effort toward having a smaller carbon footprint

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<v Speaker 3>has led to these kinds of plastics, for like chip bags.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you ever open it, it just rips all

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<v Speaker 3>the way down the side, and only your pretzels fall

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<v Speaker 3>out on the floor. It's not like the old days

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<v Speaker 3>where you can just open the top and it's cheaper

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<v Speaker 3>and greener. I'm guessing it has more to do with

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<v Speaker 3>cheaper than greener, but the main one is it's not

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<v Speaker 3>your imagination. Beverage containers are harder to open than they

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<v Speaker 3>used to be, which is good news. I'm not just

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<v Speaker 3>getting weaker and losing my grip strength because of the

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<v Speaker 3>caps on so many things getting smaller and not as deep.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get much of a grip on it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just it's just factually much more difficult to

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<v Speaker 3>open things than it used to be. So if you've

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<v Speaker 3>come across that, it's example of products like.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a hell at a time with one of

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<v Speaker 5>those milk cartons that has the little screw top in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of it the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they use they used that as an example. Those

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<v Speaker 3>are super shallow. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, you can't get

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<v Speaker 3>a grip on it, and they they used that as

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<v Speaker 3>an example.

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<v Speaker 2>All that reminds me I have not yet eggnogged.

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<v Speaker 3>About.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to put that off as long as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that I'm doing okay, waight wise right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Katie, do you know Joe's eggnog game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I used to say, back in my younger and

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<v Speaker 1>wilder days when you should have known me.

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<v Speaker 3>That, back when you're hanging out with Pete Hegzeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all the times we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, if you can't read the newspaper through your eggnog,

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<v Speaker 1>it's U two a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week, got it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, got in our Our old boss used to have

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<v Speaker 3>a party at his house where he had make eggnog

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<v Speaker 3>with a big block of Hoggin DAW's ice cream in

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<v Speaker 3>the song.

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<v Speaker 2>Made from scratch egg nog.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so freaking good and you'd be knee walking

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<v Speaker 3>drunk by the end too, which was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, goes down like a well, like a milkshake.

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<v Speaker 3>Knee walking drunk. I haven't heard that one either. I

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<v Speaker 3>like it. That's a Georgia bushism and he knew so drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>The old style milk carton caps were twenty one millimeters tall,

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<v Speaker 3>while the new ones are seventeen millimeters tall. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>difference of nineteen percent. That seems to be enough to

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<v Speaker 3>make it impossible to grip by most people. And see,

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<v Speaker 3>you just can't get a grip on a top of

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<v Speaker 3>the dang thing, and I've had that experience and thought

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<v Speaker 3>of my just weaker, what is the problem here? Uh

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<v Speaker 3>so people haven't And the other thing, I haven't had

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<v Speaker 3>this experience yet. They've made the plastics so thin on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of bottles. When you twist the lid, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole bottle twists so you can't get any resistance to

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<v Speaker 3>open the bag thing up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I had a really embarrassing moment the other day

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<v Speaker 5>where I took the cap off of my water bottle

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<v Speaker 5>and apparently I have a hulk grip because the hand

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<v Speaker 5>I was holding it with the water just sprayed everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, okay, wow, I don't know my

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<v Speaker 5>own strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, squeezing too hard?

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<v Speaker 3>That is interesting. Well, they got to find the sweet spot, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and make the lids a little taller.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of squeezing too hard and finding the sweet spot,

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<v Speaker 1>here's good news. This is one of Michael's pet causes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's marched, he's twitter hashtags, he's written letters to Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the rights of prostitutes in Belgium and the

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<v Speaker 1>good news. Belgian prostitutes have been given full employment rights

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<v Speaker 1>as sex workers under a new law that entitles them

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<v Speaker 1>to social security and pensions.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, the law is creating a new category of employment.

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<v Speaker 1>I would try the French, but I haven't studied French

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<v Speaker 1>in many years. Essentially sex workers, which requires an official

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<v Speaker 1>employment contract. This will cover and regulate working hours and pay,

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<v Speaker 1>including prostitutes working part time as gig workers or while

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<v Speaker 1>studying in higher education.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a part time prostitute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a student and I do sex work on the

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<v Speaker 1>side cover my tuition.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be racking up over time, yeah, exactly, time and

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<v Speaker 3>a half. Yeah, and putting more toward your retirement exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till I get off my back and

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<v Speaker 1>can take a rest or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And I retire when you're like thirty, probably from that gig.

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<v Speaker 1>Says Don Bowens, director of the Belgian Union for Prostitutes.

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<v Speaker 2>What do we want? What do we want?

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<v Speaker 1>It?

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<v Speaker 3>Quote?

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<v Speaker 2>We could have never dreamt that we would be here now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most important thing is that we now

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<v Speaker 1>make access to social security possible.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a full panel with sex workers once years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that, Yeah, I do in studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was very very interesting, and I know I've

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<v Speaker 3>gone back and forth on this and whether it should

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<v Speaker 3>be legalized, so that then have you'd have some rights

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<v Speaker 3>and police protection and stuff that you don't now. But

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<v Speaker 3>then the experience with legalized marijuana in California is that

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<v Speaker 3>you have as active an illegal market as you ever

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<v Speaker 3>did in just a different way. Because I have a

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that, you know, the cartels or Chinese massage slaves

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<v Speaker 3>are still going to exist even if you legalize prostitution exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of my favorite, not that it's good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it is clear one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>illustrations of secondary consequences. And on down the line, you

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<v Speaker 1>legalize prostitution, there is absolutely still going to be exploit exploitations,

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<v Speaker 1>sexual slavery, underaged girls being raped for money because they

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<v Speaker 1>can't give consent, they're underage, it's rape. The most horrifying

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<v Speaker 1>parts of sex trafficking will continue to exist, and the

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<v Speaker 1>cops will no longer have the ability to investigated and

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<v Speaker 1>intercede in it in the same way right because it

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<v Speaker 1>all exists barely behind the scenes of the not as

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<v Speaker 1>horrifying stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the young junkies in you know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>cities of Blue America who got saved over and over

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<v Speaker 1>again by getting arrested and having some compassionate cop saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to do this, here's this program whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It just it makes all of it too easy, including

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<v Speaker 1>the really really unpleasant stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And you got that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's this I can't remember. There's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>clever name for it. It's the principle the speed limit is sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't expect you to go sixty, but you're sure

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<v Speaker 1>as hell aren't gonna go ninety. And that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's a Latin phrase for that legal philosophy,

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<v Speaker 1>but to keep the really ugly stuff going from happening,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a law that's not super strictly enforced,

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<v Speaker 1>just so when we see the super ugly stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>can jump in and do something about it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>realize that's kind of wishy washing, and I wish the

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<v Speaker 1>world didn't work like that, but it does. Getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to the hose of Belgium.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume the Johns would dig this because it's legal,

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<v Speaker 3>and oh yeah, you don't have to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're a real Sickoh yeah, yeah. One important important

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<v Speaker 1>employment right is that sex workers are able to refuse

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<v Speaker 1>a client or sexual act without fear of being sacked

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<v Speaker 1>by their brothel. Say the Belgian sex workers.

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<v Speaker 3>Sacked by a brothel is a good price?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a phrase. Yeah, yeah, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>The exercise of the right refusal opens a protection period

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<v Speaker 1>of six months, during which the sex worker is protecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that's just the legal ease. It gets a

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<v Speaker 1>little troubling here, Okay. Employers will have to meet workplace

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<v Speaker 1>safety requirements such as an emergency panic button, and hygiene

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<v Speaker 1>rules require that rooms must be a certain size, equipped

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<v Speaker 1>with clean betting and bath linen, as well as condomes

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<v Speaker 1>and access to shower and toilet trees.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, betting requirements, you like, how often are you changing those? Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>Cress so often is possible?

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<v Speaker 3>Ew?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where's the put? Did I skip over that? Somehow?

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the gals talking about how, uh, since they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get time off and uh, where is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of got I read that in this article.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. I'm probably skimming over it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one gal's talking about because we have no

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<v Speaker 1>vacation or anything like that. I had to work till

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<v Speaker 1>I was eight months pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Okay, see that's awful. That's a cake

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<v Speaker 3>of somebody to be doing that. Oh my god. Ah

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<v Speaker 3>ew yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, there are many examples of a couple

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<v Speaker 1>continuing their amorous activities well into pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine, healthy and fine and fun. On the other hand, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>No, right exactly, but paying for it, and she's got

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<v Speaker 1>to show up to work and do it just because

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<v Speaker 1>she's got to put food on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just and she's about whole shop.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, so Brandon, funny story. Now that you're twelve, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you're old enough to tell you right before

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<v Speaker 3>you were born, you're getting poked in the eye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>dang it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. It's just it's so demeaning. Yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>demean yourself, folks. It's there's a cost to your soul.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult to quantify. I mean, is this job a

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<v Speaker 1>little demeaning, Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It is as demeaning is being eight months pregnant and

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<v Speaker 3>taking the high hard one for somebody for cash. No,

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<v Speaker 3>not that demeaning. Yeah, god, that's rough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a rough line of work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We should try well, I guess we have it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in uh Nevada at the Brothels. It's kind of legal, true, yesh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't ben so, I don't know what it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Belgium was the second country in the world, dude, to

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<v Speaker 1>criminalize prostitution, after New Zealand in two thousand and three.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little hygiene requirements, you say, I'm all for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh please?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as many as you, as many as you, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, in favor of all of all exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, which tupe ofware lives do you find hard to

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<v Speaker 3>open this email? Les? Second? Well, I guess that's it.