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Speaker 1: Another episode of Club five to twenty Podcasts. I'm the

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Speaker 1: host Miams DJ Wells. We got a legend, legend, legend, legend,

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Speaker 2: We're here for a reason. We're gonna introduce him last though.

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Speaker 1: To my far left, we got my dog Bis should

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Speaker 1: be hearing out the prail les how you a nasty,

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Speaker 1: cool and nasty baby. Let's get to it. You got

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Speaker 1: your one PTO that year. I appreciate you. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to b Swift, legend holding it down for forty two.

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Speaker 1: Dug my dog here, but I'm glad you pulled back

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Speaker 1: up to work. My boy, I'm back, I'm bag. Let's

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Speaker 2: Bro, you were always know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been a lot of places, especially you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying from the shot those shoes over here,

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Speaker 1: you see the black forces with the white class. When

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Speaker 2: I'll show you jack jacking something. Watch out, bro, I

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Speaker 2: So you'll call me a skamer. You said you showing it?

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling, man, I'm geeked. Know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: seven and now we got my dog.

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Speaker 1: It's about to be a great Now. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you do the honestly introducing me. But I'm like, listen,

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Speaker 2: Man have to pull up west Ship. You know what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course me, my son and my team, uh

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Speaker 4: Random and Maddie. They told me about it to the squad.

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Speaker 4: Of course, right when the idea came up, I had

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Speaker 2: So the niggas got your cater, bro listen door days

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Speaker 1: this episode. Man, I gotta say something before we really start.

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Speaker 1: But my dog Mike, All Mike is our guy behind

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Speaker 1: Shout out to freaking Miif for hold it down. Man,

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Speaker 1: But listen, man, we are honored that you were here.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy, man, I want to say, Man, shout

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Speaker 1: this time, how was that Like that moment you was

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Speaker 4: Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, bro.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, man, we're gonna talk about the career we

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about that. I'll be waiting for

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Speaker 1: Listen, first time man, right just before I was even

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Speaker 2: No word, get that. We get to that. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that. We get to that. But I seen him

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Speaker 1: He played for a team called Ferrari and it was

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Speaker 2: This dude nice? But you ever seen Derrick Rose? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Like your name sound fake, like Derrick Rose, Like you

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Speaker 2: I was like, he called, like they call him the

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Speaker 1: So we go to the game, y'all happened to be

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Speaker 1: Magic boom. You remember that, right, Memphis Magic.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw

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Speaker 1: Mae Miller. Yeah there, Yes, he had a good game.

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Speaker 1: He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I

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Speaker 1: You know, my dad, yo, can be reading about him.

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Speaker 1: He ain't supposed to be on this team.

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Speaker 2: He was like, he you know, he older?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo? You you

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Speaker 2: a couple of months older than him? What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Happy belated too? Yeah for sure?

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Speaker 4: Way about Mike Bruh and USA. We played sixteen or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he my roommate his he. I had to look

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Speaker 2: Bro he was younger. Who Mike younger than us?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Cold Bro, I'm like you this cold shout out to

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Speaker 1: That's when I first met he played for I'm not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but my first time I played against you. So

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Speaker 4: you have gone thirty bro, and tone our coach he

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Speaker 4: of him. So we're like, Bro, this whole game, Jeff

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Speaker 4: lader movement, fucked up, got all that, Bruh. By the end,

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Speaker 4: had a great game, and I'm like, bro, I got

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: But and in our class, when you ran up against

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Speaker 4: niggas like that, you knew like uh it challenged you

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Speaker 4: in a way, though, Bro, When like I was when

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Speaker 4: we were talking the room about o Ja, yes, sir,

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Speaker 4: when I seen for the first time bru that, he

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Speaker 4: for sure. Juice juice for show.

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Speaker 2: Nah, that nigga was different.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget when y'all got to because we went

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Speaker 2: But the magic. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't forget ship. I don't ship the matchup with y'all.

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Speaker 1: But I'm from Indiana, so I know I seen you.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, they don't know this nigga about to

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Speaker 2: So I'm like rooting.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you,

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Speaker 1: get hurt, so everybody like he hurt, he's scary's scared.

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Speaker 1: Then I see y'all in Vegas, I'm like, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: nigga ain't scared. Niggas tripping. They was going at it, bro,

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Speaker 1: They was having a game. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: best games I seen him at Eric against O J

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Speaker 2: That shit's crazy. We chased him, bro.

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Speaker 4: We used to go to tournaments looking for him, Like

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Speaker 4: whole chapter of my ship, chasing him, going to tournaments.

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Speaker 4: Stay in the game, but it's really it's us too,

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Speaker 4: them the same ship. I'm quiet, of course I'm in

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Speaker 4: we we wanted that matchup, especially since we played them

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Speaker 2: In the gym, my nigga.

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Speaker 4: I I think my junior year we was coached to

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Speaker 4: had e J I'm like, come on, I was playing.

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Speaker 4: I had nobody else that was really like a D

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Speaker 4: So he had three or four guys, but like play

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Speaker 4: ship was nuts.

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Speaker 2: But it was crazy, he said.

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Speaker 1: We talked about we were talking to about our seven

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Speaker 1: him and like that's the craziest back where played them.

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Speaker 6: That's crazy. How'd you feel about him joining the team?

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Speaker 2: Would you? Like? I love my niggas, but like we played.

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Speaker 4: I played on the team with full of winners. Bro

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Speaker 4: We won even though we was undersized and all that,

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Speaker 2: So when we got him.

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Speaker 4: They like, hell yeah, like we got another dude that

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Speaker 4: was scoring my brother. In high school, I played more

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Speaker 4: because my man right there, Iran, he had the He

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Speaker 4: was the point that push you to the three juice,

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Speaker 4: So I'm like all right, like, but we won and

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Speaker 4: I fucked around with the niggas. I'm like, all right, like,

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Speaker 2: So it was all love.

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Speaker 4: But the system was the big man get majority of

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Speaker 4: But at that school it was strictly just But I

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Speaker 6: What made you choose twenty five and sent me.

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Speaker 4: On, Bean Wilson, I didn't choose it. All this shit

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Speaker 4: I had your that's a pure love for the game.

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Speaker 4: I didn't look at nigga salaries. I didn't look at

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Speaker 4: love sophomore year hit. I'm like, damn, I'm sending the

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Speaker 4: and all that. You know, mom got that little ship

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Speaker 4: Then they clicked, like, man, I could change this ship

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Speaker 4: I'm like, if KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule,

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Speaker 4: I gotta do a year. I have to do the year.

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Speaker 4: But I was, I ain't pay attention to none of

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Speaker 1: Another rule that you help a lot of people get

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Speaker 2: Love. Yeah, I mean, that's that's one.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing I care about, bro, even the

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Speaker 4: I call it DZY seven twenty, like DZ stand ford,

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Speaker 4: don't forget about the zealous youth, and zealous means pursuit

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Speaker 4: I'm not knowing why I'm creating.

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00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

435
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm not going out to clubs, I'm not going to dinners.

436
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that

437
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: you like you have to be a machine. I ain't

438
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: enjoyed none of that bro until like my fourth year,

439
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 4: So that rule was not only for me, It's for

440
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 4: everybody my next you know what I'm saying, Like.

441
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: You're like before the view, could you're explain that real

442
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: for I'm saying.

443
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying some of our lazier followers

444
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: who didn't pay attention to that rule.

445
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

446
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: The rule is that you get thirty percent of the cup,

447
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 4: meaning that you get an extra thirty to forty million

448
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 4: if you hit the bench marks that's in your rookie

449
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: year contract.

450
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: So All Star.

451
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: Team, any award, going to the All Star Game, both

452
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: benchmarks will give you thirty percent more than a cup.

453
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, at that time, I know what I was doing,

454
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: but I'm very grateful and very very thankful that like

455
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: the league allowed me to do that.

456
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: In facts, Jason tay them all them boys first, they

457
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: thank you.

458
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 6: For showing mellow by everybody.

459
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I see, I see Jason. Jason Tatum told me

460
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: that straight up fuck with d Rostar. You remember he

461
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: remembery talking him like, Bro, he want to artograph, he

462
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: wanted he.

463
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Want a jerk. Bro. He was real like, brod bro

464
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: is the greatest.

465
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: Bro.

466
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: I was like, not to jump so far. We still

467
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: got to talk about the rest of his high school

468
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: and stuff. But like when people will see him when

469
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: he was on the team together, Bro, I used to

470
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: tell him, like, Bro, you have a colt following. This

471
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: ship is crazy like and he would come out and

472
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: he's so humble and chill and I just joke all day.

473
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 2: I played. I play too much. I'll be like yo,

474
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: like y'all want my autograph and ship? They just be like, who.

475
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 6: Like this ship work?

476
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: So for the first time before we get back to

477
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew, like,

478
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status.

479
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we

480
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: went out. You was in Minnesota. I begged you, we

481
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: out begged you to go out.

482
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm come he was on it. You had you.

483
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: You know how you step on the back of your

484
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: shoes and ship, so you was standing on the back

485
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: of your shoes.

486
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: You're like, man, nah, I can't go. Bro.

487
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, come on and please please, then

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: come on. It's gona be cool in the white goat.

489
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: We gonna we're gonna cover you up everything. Like I

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: ain't even that, bro, I'm just telling you I don't

491
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: really like going out. Finally you got tired of you like,

492
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go.

493
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: We walk in there.

494
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: We walking the club, were walking in the beginning part

495
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: and somebody said.

496
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: Derek de Rose.

497
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: I said ship, I swear God, like two hundred people came.

498
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: I said, oh Ship. I looked at Wig. I said ship.

499
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: We don't get this guy little hold up. Were getting the.

500
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Club, and the dude was like, damn, we just gonna

501
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: put y'all back here. They just started standing outside the section.

502
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: He looked at me.

503
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna go. We's in that mother

504
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: fucker ten minutes. I'm just gonna go.

505
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: Fuck.

506
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: So imagine that Brian won't nothing like it's let my fuck,

507
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 4: it's weird even doing like doing this, so like putting

508
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 4: myself in like weird quagmire situations. You feel what I'm saying. Formally,

509
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 4: I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod or nothing like that,

510
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 4: but I fuck with y'all ship, and in order to grow,

511
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: you gotta put yourself in those uncomfortable situations, so like

512
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 4: coming here or even talking like, y'all don't know how

513
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 4: much this means to me.

514
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

515
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: I love you come in and express this ship and

516
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: express like, uh, just how I feel where I'm at

517
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 4: at this time.

518
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: So I appreciate your niggas, now have you here, but

519
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: I to have.

520
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: You here I always use anytime somebody playing the patients

521
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 6: and listen off the radar and I'll be hitting niggas

522
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 6: with the ruby Rose, the Rose, the roues, whoever it for.

523
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: So I got a rose JT.

524
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 6: If you want to autograph, I got.

525
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: What the illness, But listen, Like I said, we got

526
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, but I want to bring

527
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: it back to your days. It's teammates, man, Yeah, obviously

528
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: I playing to get each other growing up.

529
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: How was it that the first time I look up Minisoda, Man,

530
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: I love Bro.

531
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: I mean, let me let me talk, because Bro, everybody

532
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 4: that probably met up no bull and ship, they just

533
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: know that he a good dude, and his energy that

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: he brings to the locker room is uh. You can't

535
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: compare it to nobody brother like he Uh, the vibration

536
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: he brings. He's always talking ship, even though it made

537
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: rub people different that didn't grow up that way, niggas

538
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: that grew up that way that you need that in

539
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: the locker room. You need motherfucker's joking playing. But when

540
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: it's time to go, he was always ready and I

541
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 4: knew you can who do too though, So uh just

542
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 4: having them around, having uh uh TIBs, fuck with him

543
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: having uh cat he used to fuck with cats so much,

544
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: but saying motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful ship.

545
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and when motherfuckers were scared

546
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: to say it. I'm new to the team, so I'm

547
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 4: just trying to get the vibe on the team. You

548
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear, and people respected that.

549
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: So it was always love.

550
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: Just having Jeff around It surprised me too, when like

551
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: you start coming over to the crib because you know,

552
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 4: niggas normally don't hang out with each other, Like, yeah,

553
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: it's like on some fake ship. So like having you

554
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 4: start coming over. Then you came over the night that

555
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: I don't believe in coincidences either. You came over the

556
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: night that I had fifty in my brother's knows that

557
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: my brother was in the kitchen and drinking and ship.

558
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know if you'll want to

559
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: talk about that right now. Gotta yeah, I wasn't what

560
00:27:44,640 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: it's crazy all that ship? Why yo, that would be no.

561
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: But I'll mean that's a little layer of the story

562
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: because you still got so many years Becuz he he

563
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: gave me a chance. I played against him, and I

564
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of I'm musa speak on the Minnesota moment, but

565
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Bulls moment when we

566
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: played him in the pay of.

567
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: The playoffs and he spared me.

568
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: So before we get to the fifty, I'm gonna tell

569
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: you when he could have had fifty at night another time.

570
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh, you talking in the.

571
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: Playoffs Mother's Day and him first, I remember, forget Bro,

572
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: we having the first quarter, were going back and forth

573
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: it's a duel, and I'm like, in my head, I'm

574
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: out here dueling with the MVP. What the fucking But

575
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking shit. It's the first game in Atlanta. So

576
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, motherfucker life. And he like he ain't

577
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: saying nothing. He just like like looking at me, like

578
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm guarding he go by. He dunk one time. I said,

579
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: oh shit, crowd go. I'm like, damn, Atlenta yah, y'all

580
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: the trip for me, Like what the fuck? Going back

581
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: and forth. Second quarter we had like thirteen fourteen second quarter.

582
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I think I scored two points. He scored like another nine.

583
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, go to the locker room. I'm like, Jamal,

584
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: you can switch off on him. I was like, hell no,

585
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: you keep going. You're doing good. Man, Like you guarding them.

586
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, I forgot that. At thirty.

587
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: They're like, don't worry about it, keep going, playing good.

588
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I

589
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: ain't scoring no more. This motherfuck is still going. It's

590
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: starting to blow us out. He gets what you had,

591
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: like forty four yeah, forty four yeah. So it's like

592
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: what it was like five six minutes left in the

593
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: fourth Mall said the same. I let you got that

594
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: nigga looked at I never forget. I'm like I had

595
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: like twenty one. I'm like looking at him. I'm still

596
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: trying to guard him hard. And you know how a

597
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: nigga kind of like relax, like not tell you relax,

598
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: but kind of like it's over.

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: Bro. The nigga kind of like come getting me tips.

600
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: I said, fuck him. I look at the score, but

601
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: I said he ain't want to get fitty. I said

602
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: game four no, fuck that.

603
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: I was so mad. I said he spared me.

604
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: I was like I went to the locker room and

605
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Smooth was like, man, you know, it's just one game.

606
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Dog.

607
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: I was like, nah ma Hedmnar had fifty. He's like,

608
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: nigge think you can stop him, even play shit like

609
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: only pas and Nigga got hurt, Like you did good, nigga.

610
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 2: Shut up. You're right, JA woke tough ast series it was,

611
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: But you spared me? Why you spare me? I didn't

612
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 2: spare you, bro.

613
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: You know at that time, I wasn't even thinking about

614
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 4: I don't be thinking about scoring like that. I'd be

615
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: really in the game, bro, like every because my mindset

616
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: was if I didn't score like we was gonna fall back.

617
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that.

618
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: When I was playing, I just knew I had to

619
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: affect the game in a positive way.

620
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: This when I really was like, fuck you, you hit a floater, right,

621
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I could tested this ship out, this monfucker. I was

622
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: playing hard as hell. Y'all, don't play defense. I'm playing

623
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me. He

624
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bit.

625
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, he caught it.

626
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: After that, Louis I said, I said, he's playing around

627
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: funny Joe.

628
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: He getting ready for Miami. Okay, cool? Cool.

629
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I was hot like I was thirty a hot. My

630
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: brother like, bro, you're getting your chance. It's all good.

631
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: You ain't playing bad. I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me.

632
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Bro Like, like, Bro, he embarrassed everybody the MTP. Then

633
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: I thought about it. I was like, you're right, I'm good.

634
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm just try to score now. But I remember that

635
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: your career too, though.

636
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: Bro.

637
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, having against him, bro, like, just to even have

638
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: some good moments against him at that time, they helped

639
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: my career. But I took that to say I seen

640
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: you could have got fifty. Then I seen you get fifty.

641
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: So that's where I was going with.

642
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I seen where he could have had fifty.

643
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: I was a part of that.

644
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: And then to be a part of that moment to

645
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: see you actually get fifty and for you to say, yeah,

646
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm going forward tonight, I'll never forget. You said you

647
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: playing to night. I was like, nah, I I ain't

648
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: fucking with it. He said, oh, I'm going forward. I said,

649
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: what you going for? I started.

650
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: I was like, what you're going for?

651
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, I'm going for it. I was like,

652
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: what I'm getting it? I'm getting fifty.

653
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Damn. I went to Josh Cochi getting fifty

654
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: tonight take.

655
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Jumbo and nobody's playing, and I was like, damn, he

656
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna get fifty. And you know Rudy Gobert, nim defensive

657
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: player of the Year, all that ship. I'm like, we're

658
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to kill these niggas man that first quarter.

659
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Now you I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down.

660
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Ran. I never forget.

661
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Ryan was like, you could play, worry about that ship,

662
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: learn about this ship and he just started going crazy

663
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: in the whole game, like we just watching and I'm

664
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: just like this dude is amazing. And it was like,

665
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: you know me playing before you got hurt and stuff.

666
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm like this, this is him, like he always got

667
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: this and see him going crazy. Then you hit Rudy

668
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: with the move, finished the lay. Then they started getting emotional,

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: like the nigga, everybody on the team just like, damn, bro,

670
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: he worked so hard. I'm like that, we're about doing

671
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: the game. Then he got emotional, and then I look

672
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: at the nigga because I know, I'm like, I fuck

673
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: with the cigare ear day.

674
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this means some ship, Like I start.

675
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: Fuck man, I'm a nigga, bro, I don't. I'm from

676
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: the west side of that. Bro. I ain't about to

677
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: be crying for no nigga scoring no points. They want

678
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: fucking to hit me out the fuck.

679
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Work by did the game go over, I'm like, ship,

680
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm about to be a party in locker room. Fuck this,

681
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this mother fuck up. He do the interview.

682
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even hear it, but I remember he was emotional.

683
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it on TV. Went on back there

684
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I record

685
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: that shit he walked in, they throw the water on it.

686
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Then I send it to your girl. Like it's gotta

687
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: be a moment, y'all. Never forget like I was. That

688
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: ship was hard.

689
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: I was like, why that game though, Po, Why that game?

690
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 6: What made you?

691
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I don't know.

692
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: It was just I just felt something right when he

693
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: told me he wasn't playing. I seen Jimmy one't playing.

694
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, that's what. It's just the opportunity,

695
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: and every every nigga in the league that's not playing

696
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 4: wish they could have that opportunity. In fact, everybody, bro, shit,

697
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: you look at niggas that's not that in the league.

698
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: You look at it right now. Just give me that

699
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: one chance. I could go out there and I could

700
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: at least shoot fifteen to twenty field goals and see

701
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. Yeah, and once I get rolling, you

702
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 4: really gonna see what's what's gonna happen, you know what

703
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I just felt like that moment was like

704
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: just my moment, especially going through everything that like I

705
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: went through, went through the little shit, I was still

706
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: going through like injuries and yeah, like I said, Bro,

707
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: I'm just living in it. Bro, Like the ship that

708
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: be going on, I can't really explain because I'm in it.

709
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: But all I could do is like prep myself for

710
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: the moments. Like when I was in basketball, I was

711
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: prepping myself for that moment. Now that I'm switching over

712
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: to this, like my.

713
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Sh'S gonna be like y'all ship one day, six seven

714
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: cameras and.

715
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: Bro, you know, oh yeah, you gonna do a part.

716
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: Not the part I'm trying to get into directing, bro,

717
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: oh yeah, better, but directing telling like real stories.

718
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: That's book.

719
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 4: But I mean y'all, like everything that y'all saw though

720
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 4: the commercial or the video that's me Maddie and that's random.

721
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: All of us came together, got that ship together along

722
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: with Carlisle and Mark, along with the other guys that

723
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: was a part of the team. Like but we created

724
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: that that moment, so you know, prepping ourselves for something

725
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: huge for sure.

726
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: You know we're there to support. Shouts to the team

727
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: as well.

728
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing before we get back to

729
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: the because this is my nigga, I'm just high. I

730
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie, but I'll never forget this. When I

731
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: was like this nigga different, like y'all know me, I'm

732
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: they know me. No, it's all good.

733
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: It's good. They know I'm wild, y'all know me.

734
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I became a man in Atlanta, so my perspective was

735
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: a little different.

736
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Like shit, I was going out, my team was going out. Everything.

737
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: So when I came to Indiana, did I get the Minnesota?

738
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: My mind still like, man, all right, we had a

739
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: good practice, we had some game, we hoped, but like

740
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: where were gone?

741
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: You know?

742
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: So I remember one night John Lucas called me. I'm like,

743
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Luke called me, like, yo, where we at?

744
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: He called me like, man, you should come in the gym.

745
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, no, right, you talking about going on gym?

746
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: Man. I was like, bro, I'm here for all that.

747
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: He like, man, you tripping, bro, come in here.

748
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: I come in there, and he like, he like text

749
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: me like he rows in here, and I come in.

750
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: I remember with your whole family, you had your daughter

751
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: in the stroller. Your girl was sitting on there on

752
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: the stroller. You were shooting and you had shot damn

753
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: there five hundred shots. And I remember because you had

754
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: to end up hurting your elbow.

755
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm like, how many shots this nigga?

756
00:36:59,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: Shoot?

757
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Jay look like he gonna be ready? What's the fuck?

758
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: He gonna be ready? And I'm like, and we about

759
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: to play in the playoff. He's about to play in Houston.

760
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: This is when you first came to the team, like,

761
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: hes gonna be ready, don't trip, he gonna be ready.

762
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Ship, he shooting fire and shot I funk,

763
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna shoot fifty from the thirties.

764
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: Getting them up. So I'm laughing, and Ship I'm colder.

765
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm joking and Ship and were getting the playoffs and

766
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to Tips, like, man, this nigga

767
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: gotta play like he was having me getting the game

768
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: he killed. I'm like, no, no, he gotta come on, man,

769
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: he gotta get in the game. Earlier, TIBs like, no, fuck,

770
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give

771
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: a fuck, take him take him out?

772
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: He like, how do I tell him? Like, nigga, Tips

773
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: is shoot, He's like everybody in all.

774
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: Then that nigga just starts saying fuck it, come on,

775
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I swear, come on. Yeah, I watched this nigga buildings. Bro,

776
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: he was that's fire and the next year with you

777
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: shot forty from three forty.

778
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: But you assistant with that too.

779
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Though, right when I got to the team, you probably

780
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 4: remember you, Hey, that's you for that bread.

781
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: I have money. You don't understand it though.

782
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 4: When you like I, the league ain't nothing but specialists

783
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: right in facts. So when you are aren't labeled with

784
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: shoot like that, that shit can last for like a

785
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: long time until you beat that ship.

786
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: You got to you gotta beat that, you know what

787
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Allegation, Come on, man.

788
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana,

789
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: they know how to shoot when they one years old

790
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: teaching they.

791
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: Formed, They and their crib elbow all that. All y'all

792
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: shots the same.

793
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: I have not one person growing up to tell me

794
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show

795
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this shit

796
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it,

797
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: none of that. It's solely me being in the park

798
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 4: by myself testing out ship and all that stick or

799
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 4: you know, after experimenting and that shit stuck. But so

800
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: to like go to a team and to be cool

801
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting game with

802
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 4: him and don't take it personal if they beat you.

803
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy because I want to take it. Like

804
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But it takes uh to

805
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: go one on one or to the challenge of motherfucking

806
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: one and to push yourself in practice when you ain't

807
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: know nothing about it.

808
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm shooting with you. You don't know damn feelings. All yeah,

809
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. Walking around shooting, playing talking

810
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: to people. I'm trying to make every mother.

811
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach your show your I want to show

812
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: your ass. I'm in forty this. I'm probab to stop

813
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: shooting because I was like this nigga started to beat me.

814
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: Man quit But I'm just like, he adn't take he

815
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: was taking a light because he's playing. He always playing,

816
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: all right, But if Tims ain't on that, he ain't

817
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: on that.

818
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: That story of my life.

819
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I just want to God br so like to to

820
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter. I took pride

821
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: it up even though you didn't know about this, but

822
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: now I've seen it. Then when the next year. I'll

823
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: never forget. I started, like we started starting together at

824
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, and I'm like, I'm going

825
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: on fast work. I'm starting the ball to him in

826
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: the corner and he fired, and I'm like this Nigga

827
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: really a shooter. Like he running the lane, min You

828
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: like Nigga the MVP. He great with the ball, like

829
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: I should be running the lane.

830
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Nigga.

831
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: He like, get it, get it, get it, taking off

832
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: to the corner and firing threes, and I'm laughing. I'm

833
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: like this nigga shooter, Like what is Nigga spotting up forty?

834
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Shooting forty from the three? And I'll never forget. I

835
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: was like, Nigga shooting forty. He was like, you know,

836
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: he a student of the game, Like Nigga gotta be

837
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: a shoot to three man.

838
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: They paying niggas shoot the three, and I.

839
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 6: Remember shoot was sweet.

840
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: He was like I remember everything. Bro.

841
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm a I'm aa shoot forty. He

842
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro. Then

843
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm done, sir. And I was like, nah, you're gonna leave.

844
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm in my head like he about to leave. Minnesotau

845
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: ain't the way, he's starting over me.

846
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: At the time, niggas was telling.

847
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: Me in the crowd get him off the I'm like, damn,

848
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: that's my nigga.

849
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: I gotta help me. He got so bad, my nigga.

850
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: I started telling niggas like, do you want to start

851
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: because it's easier, nigga, you gonna go off the bench, bro.

852
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: But I give him credit, Nigga, I'll never forget. He

853
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: told me like, and then we got to get back

854
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: to where it started. But then he told me, he

855
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: was like, teem, you gotta find your niche cause nigga,

856
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time,

857
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: Like coming off the bench, they gonna pay, they need

858
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: somebody to kill off the bench. They gonna find a

859
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: new row. And now I never he did not want to start.

860
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I remember with the team. I said, Tims, I am

861
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: sick of hearing these When you start him, he was like,

862
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: who am gonna start him over?

863
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, nigga me.

864
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: He was like, you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't

865
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench.

866
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: He was like no, no, and I was starting together

867
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: and he was like, I could do that. Who we

868
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: take out and we start trying to figure it out whatever.

869
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: But I just remember when you said that. So when

870
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: you left, I went to Ryan, I said I wanna

871
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: come off the bench because I was like, I'm about

872
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: to do exactly what he did. I was like, I

873
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: want to come off the bench because you told me, like, Bro,

874
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career. Bro,

875
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out and we about to fill

876
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: these new roles. I was like, I'm about to take

877
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: his role. And I started doing everything he did. I

878
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: started stretching. I ain't do none of that ship, phone,

879
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: roller ball, and ship. I'm like that nigga, he figured

880
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: it out. Fuck that I'm doing that. Ship did quite

881
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: work out, but.

882
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: It was too late. Was broke down.

883
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: I was as I had your knee and that was it.

884
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had ankles.

885
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: I had certainly on my ankle, Yeah, but then I

886
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: had my patella was gone.

887
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: I ain't got I'm bone on bone now it's over with.

888
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: It's over, and ad ain't worth a quarters. It was

889
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: gone last year.

890
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: It was it was gone my last year in Minnesota.

891
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: So I was bone on bone.

892
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: But I was just playing and then the last piece

893
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: of piece of my Pateller tour. And when I was

894
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, Uh.

895
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: It was over with that bone on bone.

896
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: That's something. It was over once you go there for sure.

897
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: Just doing that as well.

898
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, how are you doing that? How are you

899
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: doing that?

900
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: He's different, Bro, Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen,

901
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: you have so many crazy accomplishments. Man, we got to

902
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: speak on something.

903
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: Man.

904
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: Obviously we got to start one of the crazy ones.

905
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: MVP, youngest MVP ever having one the craziest season the

906
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: NBA in the conference where Lebron James was like, how

907
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: was that season for you? Because obviously you know what

908
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You came in the league going crazy. How

909
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: how crazy was that particular season for you?

910
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: Bro?

911
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 4: It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember

912
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: at that time. My whole mindset was like keep it moving.

913
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: So you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you

914
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: would cherished some.

915
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Of the days a little bit more. But like me

916
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: looking in the past and shit, but.

917
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: What I was telling y'all at that time, I didn't

918
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: enjoy anything, Bro. I didn't go out to eat with

919
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: my family or friends like that, No movies like that,

920
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: none of that, bro, no concerts because I was totally

921
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: locked in too thinking that I had to follow like

922
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: Kobe was doing, thinking cold as, not enjoying itself, not

923
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: going on vacas, not doing any of that. So I

924
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: felt tricked, like in a way whenever at the time

925
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: I felt that way, Like my fourth year I ended

926
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 4: up going to the Philippines. When I saw him like relaxed,

927
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this hole time.

928
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: I dedicated three three years of thinking you didn't do ship, bro,

929
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: and to see you actually out here just chilling like

930
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: it kind of fucked me up. But like I couldn't

931
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: take it personally because even though I was like admiring

932
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: them like that, so uh, that year it was just fun, man,

933
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 4: something that you can't explain, like my being in shy

934
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 4: at the going number one and being the point guard

935
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: of the team. Like you got the rocking your hand

936
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: and you got your guys like my guys being around

937
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: to sixth grade on the baseline.

938
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah talking or you know what I'm saying.

939
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: So the whole time, like that's something that yeah, but

940
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: we did it right though. Men in fact, we made

941
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: sure that the ups and downs that we had in Chicago,

942
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: no matter what it was, we could go back there

943
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: and still like do business or whatever it is with them.

944
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: So it was a blast over for sure.

945
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: Man, both of you said just being you know what

946
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, point guard, the man in your city, playing

947
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: for your hometown, Like, what's that feeling like, Like we

948
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: talked about it, but what's that feeling growing up in Chicago?

949
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: Like all right, I saw MJ hitters. Now they look

950
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a

951
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I can imagine.

952
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: A lot.

953
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of

954
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: people when they talk about Chicago, they always mentioned like

955
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: the badt shit, So I got to mix it up.

956
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played

957
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career, he would

958
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: have been a great player anywhere else, but in Chicago.

959
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: He became the black Cat. He became MJ in Chicago

960
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago,

961
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: and it's coaches everywhere, like with the basketball coach is

962
00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: just strong, and that the expectation of like what you're

963
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: gonna do. We've seen you. We see niggas like you

964
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: back in the sixties. Are you supposed to have been

965
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: like elevated the game or doing something? They're like, what's next?

966
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: MJ one them three? I guarantee you.

967
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: He had people in this corner like, there's no way

968
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna let you win. You just went on vac. Niggas,

969
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna let you come back and win three more.

970
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: I bet you can't. That's what niggas in shot telling them,

971
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: I bet you can't. They talk to the wrong one.

972
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: I bet you he what one? I bet you can't

973
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: win another one. But tell you, guys, look, I'm gigging

974
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: them up.

975
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, gigging them up, just off the strength.

976
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 4: But that's what I meant by the culture though, like

977
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: being there, that's what I felt. Even though people my

978
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: guys never came up to me and was like, man,

979
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: you gotta kill this motherfucker this game. I felt it.

980
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: Though they ain't have to say nothing. They'll say little ship.

981
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: They all be in the kitchen or something. Man, what

982
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: try I heard what cropped throwing the party to night,

983
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: not saying it to me, but they just talking but

984
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: making sure that I hear like what going on me?

985
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: I was that nigga I'm going out to kill from.

986
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm listening to.

987
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Even though they ain't bringing it to me, they they

988
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: staying it so that I just could hear it.

989
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so is this nigga fuck r

990
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: forty of me?

991
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 6: But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest

992
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 6: person that they had to go out like who is

993
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 6: you O?

994
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: Person like that? You was like, damn, what's crazy killing?

995
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: But I got to sleep for him.

996
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: I had a problem down damn there with everybody bro,

997
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: especially in TIB's system defensive system, where like at that

998
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: time we icing everything. He if one person go over

999
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 4: the top basketball terms, he beat you and over the

1000
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: top of the pick and roll like he now you're

1001
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 4: chasing them like behind them and shit if that happened,

1002
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: he like it was just hard. But I'm a pure

1003
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: point so I hate point guards that feel like they

1004
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: are about to control the whole game. So scoring, if

1005
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: you scoring, I don't care about scoring like that, even

1006
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: though like the NBA forced me into scoring. I never

1007
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: was the leading score on any of my elementary time,

1008
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 4: probably was the leading scorer, but high school somebody else

1009
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: was college CD I was, so I never was the

1010
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 4: leading score I just found my spots and I found

1011
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 4: the way to make it look good.

1012
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: But I'm a pure.

1013
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 4: Point at hard So I hate point guards that don't

1014
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: care about scoring like a rondough like this nigga, like

1015
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: they could fall into just the system of just playing

1016
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 4: the right way. Like no, I'm in the least try

1017
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 4: to get in your head. People don't. Yeah, scoring ain't

1018
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 4: really that much to me because I winning the game

1019
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 4: is more than me. I heard one of my O g's,

1020
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: Kurt Heinrich, say like after somebody gave him like forty

1021
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: or fifty, he's saying this ship out like out loud,

1022
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: but I'm just hearing them. Were walking in the hallway

1023
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: we won, and he was like, ha, that motherfucker just

1024
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: scored fifty points for no reason. Yeah, that ship hit home. Well,

1025
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: Like that's why after I scored that fifty, I was

1026
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: so happy that one nigga like you got the win, bro,

1027
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 4: like fifty or sick of whatever it is if you

1028
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: ain't getting that. Dup At the end, raced up the fact.

1029
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: That wasn't jed in high school, I mean college. In college,

1030
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: I was I get some cool dro that fucking Jenny

1031
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: like for.

1032
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: By the league though he adjusted community from but everybody

1033
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: liked that in the high school college you getting to it.

1034
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: That's how you got to the league. That's what these

1035
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: young kids.

1036
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 4: They don't be looking at these players or thinking like, oh,

1037
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: you were bum because you on the bench.

1038
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: Bro, did you see this player? He was in high

1039
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: school of college. That's how he got seen. Bro, you

1040
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1041
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: For sure, man, you brought one of my favorite college

1042
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: players of all time. My boy cdyall, y'all was going gray,

1043
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: I have to see y'all man. Yeah, no, that's the fact.

1044
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: See the what we got, and I gotta tell this

1045
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: short story CD. So he tried to hold me right.

1046
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We're

1047
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: there for summer uh, summer school. We shouldn't have course

1048
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: shots for hundred one hundred dollars a shot though at

1049
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: the time we both flig and we don't got it

1050
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: like that. So every shot, really, you know, that's a

1051
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: shot in college. So uh, he hit a shot and

1052
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: I shot right behind him, and he said that my

1053
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: foot was on the line, and he tried to stand

1054
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: on me like you know his voice.

1055
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: You know yeah, And I'm like I am bag. I'm like, no, nigga, no,

1056
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: you got no one no matter of fact. He shot

1057
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: the shot and his foot was on the line and

1058
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: I made him shoot over and he was surprised that

1059
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: I said something, and he sucked with me for saying something.

1060
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: Like damn, you don't let me hold you. And I'm like, no, nigga,

1061
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I ain't going for.

1062
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: Check.

1063
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: I gotta tell another story. So this when I really

1064
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 4: knew that I made the right decision. So once again,

1065
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: summer school were there. Joey Dorsey ended up going to

1066
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: against the boot concert video sheet.

1067
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 6: Shout on sure he was in the.

1068
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: Right to the legend, man, all right to the legend.

1069
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 4: He missed the run, right, he missed the whole run.

1070
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm thinking nothing of it. I get to uh the house.

1071
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: Joy come to the crib. He thinking everything cool, Cee.

1072
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 4: I ain't talking to him at all. He started cursing

1073
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: Joey out so bad, bro, like, man, you let them

1074
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: mother fucking team down. That's some whole ass talking to

1075
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: him crazy. And you know, Joy big, I'm thinking that

1076
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: they're about to fight because it's my first own nor

1077
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I just got here, joy respected it

1078
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 4: started crying.

1079
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: Bro, I said, I made the right choice. Yeah, these

1080
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: niggas care about winning.

1081
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: Bro, Like you mad at the nigga for there's some

1082
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: summer ship, you know what I'm saying. But and there

1083
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: was some ship that we were running, not col we

1084
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: we set that ship up or he set it up

1085
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: and the nigga didn't show up. And once I've seen that,

1086
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna be a good ass year. Yeah,

1087
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: older niggas, that's on the same page.

1088
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, the hell of a run, the hell

1089
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: of a year. Bro.

1090
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 6: Like, do you remember anything from that game? That Championship game?

1091
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: Shot? Shot real? That was a tough shot.

1092
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 4: The only thing I yeah, the fireworks, bro, After you

1093
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: leave the court, the shit be burning you, bro, or

1094
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: while as you walking off, I wanted to fight somebody.

1095
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I remember walking as a loser.

1096
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: The fireworks you see on TV that shit come down.

1097
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: A lot of people be getting burned in that ship.

1098
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know that the ship was burning me, and

1099
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: that ship was making me so mad as I walked

1100
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: off the court, knowing that I blew the game. That

1101
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 4: was the only thing I remember for real, because after

1102
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: that it was straight lead.

1103
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was like when you was like, you know,

1104
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: I seen a video documentary you on, you know, Chicago

1105
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: getting the first pick or Miami or whatever. What was

1106
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: it like that feeling when you've seen Chicago got that

1107
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: first pick?

1108
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Like damn.

1109
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, we were in LA at the time, and

1110
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 4: right when I seen that, they were like one of

1111
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 4: the last ones. I kind of knew then, like what

1112
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: it was, even though people didn't in the room didn't

1113
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: say it. I'm like, damn, Chicago seven percent chance. I'm like,

1114
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: we gonna end up winning that shit, And yeah, that's

1115
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: going back to the crib, Like, yeah, everybody got the

1116
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: experience that one time, at least one time. Yeah, Like,

1117
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 4: don't you know how everybody was saying you should play

1118
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 4: New York at least one time as a as a

1119
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 4: hooper just to feel an atmosphere. I feel the same

1120
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 4: way about people playing at home. If you could, you

1121
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: might as well, like at least get that experience. You know,

1122
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 4: I leaned on you.

1123
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: You don't even know, but I left Indiana to come

1124
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, right, So when you came on the team,

1125
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota.

1126
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: I love Minnesota cool, but I hated leaving the crib,

1127
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, damn, it was everything

1128
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: I wanted.

1129
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm at the.

1130
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: Crib, my homeboys, everybody be at the game after I

1131
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: lead the game, even my family all that. So when

1132
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I came, when you came to Minnesota, it was like,

1133
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced

1134
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: what I experienced, like he had to lead a crib before.

1135
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: So like that's why I started, Like you probably ain't know,

1136
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: I started gravitating Tod you like, bro, you won't shoot

1137
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: you want to do that?

1138
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: And you like cause I just want to.

1139
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: Get like, damn, how did that nigga get like through

1140
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: leaving Chicago? Like you was every Like I was nowhere

1141
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: near what you was Indiana, but you are the Chicago

1142
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: Like I was good, but I played one year, he

1143
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: was their MVP, high expectations, showed it up. I'm like, man,

1144
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: how he get through leaving the crib? So I just

1145
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: wanted to like, I'm like, man, how he worked? What

1146
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: is mental like? And then I start seeing you read

1147
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: books and ship and it's everything that I never even thought,

1148
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: like I'm thinking you like like not like me, but

1149
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: I knew you was like, damn you from the Midwest.

1150
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: He probably joking clown and clowning and you joking clown.

1151
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: You were super like dedicated to ship. And I was

1152
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: just like, all right, let me not fuck up his

1153
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: dedication because I'm type of that, hey, bro, you try

1154
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: to get some bullshit. And he was just like and

1155
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: he kind of like made me start like appreciating the

1156
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: craft again because I was kind of like, damn, I

1157
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: got paid, I'm cool, my family straight.

1158
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 2: But then I seen you.

1159
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, and he's super cool, Like he got paid,

1160
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: he don't even gotta be doing this really, but he

1161
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: appreciating the craft, and it made me like start like,

1162
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember

1163
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: why I love hooping.

1164
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

1165
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 4: Going into the league though, nah, nigga, I was like

1166
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: everybody else this ship. It takes time, Bro, takes growth,

1167
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: Bro to get I went through what I went through.

1168
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: I tried leaving two times, Like so you get to

1169
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: a point where like I could keep doing the same

1170
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: shit or I could change. So after I went through

1171
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 4: my case, I made a vow that for seven years

1172
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: that I was just gonna like try to change my image,

1173
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, by just just being me,

1174
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: just staying out of sight, out of mind. And it

1175
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: went from seven to now I'm on year like eleven

1176
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: of me just like finding enjoyy bro, you know what

1177
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: i mean, Like basketball, goat me that. But even coming here,

1178
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming

1179
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: here seeing what y'all got going on, watching from a far,

1180
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: like huge fan of the Jeff of course, seeing how

1181
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: he's adapting to like this new world and new business

1182
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: venture that he's in. So the questions that I asked

1183
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 4: you all in there, that's why I asked you know

1184
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because but that's what y'all hit, you

1185
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1186
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 6: So I appreciate you, well, was it a VT that

1187
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 6: when you got to the league that kind of embraced you?

1188
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: Every almost every vet, bro, every vet, every teammate I had.

1189
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this, every

1190
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: one of them. Because when it comes to like the

1191
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 4: basketball shit, when I was in it, I'm like, even

1192
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 4: though I don't want the fame, I still wanted people

1193
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 4: to like appreciate, like the work that I put in

1194
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: or like like the way that I played so ice

1195
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: to be on teams when niggas and they tell me

1196
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: they from Booze from Alaska. I'm thinking about market market. Yeah, market,

1197
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: that's a market. Okay, Like damn, I never knew you

1198
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, all you from overseas, then they

1199
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 4: watching you too, I mean they watching me all right, bet,

1200
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying.

1201
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: Ways, show love to everybody.

1202
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: And I had great vets to gray vets b like

1203
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: show me about health, like Luau was the first one.

1204
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: Should I have seen eat like a peanut butter and

1205
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: jelly sandwich at halftime? And now that's a custom in

1206
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 4: the league. That's before you go on the buzz And

1207
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 4: I mean like brunch, all that shit is a is

1208
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 4: just there now, But before it was there, you had

1209
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 4: like ogs that really you saw stretching before every game

1210
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 4: like a Nazi Muhammad, like Joe Kim, how he took.

1211
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: Care of his body.

1212
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: Like a lot of guys were really pros bro say

1213
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: the least sixteen seventeen years. Yeah, didn't get in the

1214
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: game at all, but they get ready, they get activated

1215
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 4: like they're about to play thirty.

1216
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: Minutes and to just chill.

1217
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 4: So I've seen that, and I'm like, man, whenever I

1218
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: do get in that position, I'm gonna try to handle

1219
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 4: that the same way. But only how you get there

1220
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: is you got to kill your ego. And that's not

1221
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: like a one time thing. That's like a continuous, fucking

1222
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: everyday thing. You know what I'm saying. What motherfuckers think

1223
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 4: it's just one time. No, that's just the first challenge.

1224
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 4: This shit just gonna keep popping up, especially if you

1225
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: call your man you feel like you accomplish something, you

1226
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1227
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: It's a thin balance. It's a balance. You got to

1228
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: balance the shit out.

1229
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 4: So being aware of that, being mindful of it, Like

1230
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 4: that's when he met me. That's what the stage that

1231
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: I was in.

1232
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: When I seen you, Like, I ain't gonna lie everybody

1233
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: know me, I'll be like I don't want no kids. Yeah,

1234
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: but when I see you with your son, like being

1235
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat eye.

1236
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: This just random shit.

1237
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: I remember because I used to be watching like that's

1238
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: hard y'all try to shoot the ball into the rack, correct, Yeah,

1239
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, y'all thinggas know, y'all not about to

1240
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: hit that right, I'm like, I'm looking like they ain't

1241
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna hit that, and y'all would continuously do it. And

1242
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: I remember one time he hit it, yes, and I

1243
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: was like, I fucker hit that ship. I'm surprised. To y'all,

1244
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to bed. But that's my version of

1245
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: the crate for him. Put the crate up, bro, We're

1246
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make a basketball rim out of anything

1247
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: on this motherfucker.

1248
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Just being creative.

1249
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: And I want you to be able to be on

1250
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: this court at this stage and feel comfortable around twenty

1251
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 4: to ten, ten thousand people looking at you. Just be

1252
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: yourself because a lot of kids I see, like a

1253
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: lot of kids that get on that stage free'ze up,

1254
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 4: scared than the motherfucker. I'm like, Noah, I don't want

1255
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: my kids going to do that. Through that man, I'm

1256
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable, like I'm

1257
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 4: putting myself in positions. But for them, I wish I

1258
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: had a dad or yeah, something I wish I had,

1259
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: So I got to present the opportunity for them.

1260
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: I was watching that ship.

1261
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Man, he over there tossing that ball, So it was

1262
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: like three days in a row. I'm like, yeah, he

1263
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna, ain't gonna that. That ain't gonna like sh

1264
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm over there like that.

1265
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: Like that. It's dope.

1266
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 6: It's hard a lot of these days. I'm glad you

1267
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 6: ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying

1268
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 6: to live through their kids on the hoop world, especially

1269
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 6: a lot of these as you Dad. So I was

1270
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 6: gonna ask you, like, how do you balance that dad life?

1271
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 6: And you know, making sure he stay on the straight

1272
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 6: arrow on the hool store, you know, pushing itself to

1273
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 6: his maxibility.

1274
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's

1275
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 4: more like discipline with him right now. But it's about

1276
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: knowing your worth too, because he's in the stage and.

1277
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of little hoopers need to

1278
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: hear this.

1279
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: Like, uh, knowing your worth, Like if a company come

1280
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: to you for an nil deal or something like that,

1281
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: and like you don't know your worth, you'll take any deal,

1282
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: but you got to look at like what do you

1283
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 4: see your brand or what you see yourself associated with?

1284
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: Like he had a deal to come to him in

1285
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 4: which I thought that he shouldn't have took. But I

1286
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 4: can't say that to him. I asked him about it. Hey,

1287
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 4: you think it's right. So who do you see yourself

1288
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 4: as associated with this brand?

1289
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: That brand?

1290
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 4: He started thinking about it like I gotta make you think.

1291
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: I gotta provoke a thought, you know what I'm saying,

1292
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: Like just to see where your head, that where you

1293
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 4: think at least put it on your mind that if

1294
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 4: you see yourself being an MVP type caliber, whoever you

1295
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 4: associate yourself with got to be on that same level too.

1296
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 4: So like the hoop inside, I let him just play bro.

1297
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 4: I'm not on him. I make him do his push

1298
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 4: ups and sit ups and shit like that. But it's

1299
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 4: really just school and making sure that his mental rate.

1300
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 4: Like a lot of kids, he quiet, So a lot

1301
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 4: of kids be like going through shit by themselves and

1302
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: our kids. I want to be able to make sure

1303
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: that I'm there well, not only like my kids, but

1304
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: my family.

1305
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's interesting here you setting

1306
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying with you.

1307
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: He coached your ALBA made you know what I'm saying,

1308
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation

1309
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: now growing up in high school, being good at having

1310
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: some type of impression they getting deals. It's like, all right,

1311
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: that might be cool now, but you don't know what

1312
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: you're getting yourself into.

1313
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting deals with the high school nott He

1314
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: loving shit?

1315
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, loving, But like it's like coaching kids, like you're right,

1316
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the mental stuff, like what they

1317
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: go through outside of basketball. You just want to make

1318
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: sure that they're in a comfortable spoor. They in a

1319
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: good place. But like you doing that with your kids,

1320
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: and that's dope. I wanted to know, Like when you

1321
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: watch them play, because I seen him hit a game

1322
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: a game winner.

1323
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah you know you too.

1324
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like I remember him like you said,

1325
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: I remember shooting on the on the little rack or whatever.

1326
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: So to see him here in game winners, do you

1327
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: see his skilled up? Like skill level going up? And

1328
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: you like, ship, man, I'm starting to see it, do

1329
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: you now?

1330
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: Man?

1331
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that

1332
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 4: I'm taking down, bro, But I have to be there,

1333
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 4: yeah for my fans, Like uh uh, it's all about

1334
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: the discipline, bro, Like I don't know how many times,

1335
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: like as a as a I'm talking as a dad,

1336
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 4: not a father, because it's a difference, Like my kids

1337
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 4: call me dad I love, and they call me dad

1338
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 4: not father.

1339
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: Don't sound right, Jackson ship don't sound right to me.

1340
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: So like that time that I'm putting in, giving every

1341
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 4: one of my kids that equal time, you know what

1342
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1343
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: But with him, since he's the.

1344
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: Oldest, I have to be a little bit more strict

1345
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 4: on him as far as making sure he gets up

1346
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 4: on time for school, taking out the garbage, a little

1347
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: chori shit. But it creates your character, you know what

1348
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Oh man, So I'm seeing like it carries

1349
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: over to where if you're not disciplined in something that

1350
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: you're passionate about back in basketball, how you think you're

1351
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: gonna be disciplined in the other areas. You know, if

1352
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: you're not disciplined about something that you love other areas

1353
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 4: is gonna fall too that you're gonna crumble at some point,

1354
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. In fact, so I'm like,

1355
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 4: bro dedicate yourself to this, and I guarantee you it's

1356
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: gonna pay off. But he listened though, Like that's half

1357
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: the battle too, and which I love about him. I

1358
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: could talk to him. He got his own individuality too.

1359
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 4: So once I see that, I don't want to tamper

1360
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: with that, because I see that if I do, you're

1361
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 4: gonna try to make You're gonna try to follow me

1362
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: or follow in my footstep. You're your own person, You

1363
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 4: are PJ ro, you are your own entity. Right, how

1364
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 4: you feel about this? I asked him, how you feel?

1365
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: Brow what you think? He'll tell me the honest truth.

1366
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: All this is how we're gonna think about it, just

1367
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: like we were talking about with the deal. He was

1368
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: mad that I was telling him that shit about the

1369
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: deal because he knew that I was telling them right,

1370
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: Like what Like I was asking them questions, and the

1371
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 4: question I was the answers. He was like, not elaborating

1372
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 4: on him, Like yeah, he said a certain company name.

1373
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't want to say the name, say their name.

1374
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, so, how like that don't add up? Pe

1375
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. He started to hear what I'm saying.

1376
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 4: He heard what I was saying, but start crying. I'm like, bro,

1377
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel

1378
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: like you made the wrong decision. I'm just showing you

1379
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 4: that you have worth. They're coming because you have worth.

1380
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 4: Now you decide what that worth is going to be

1381
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 4: a lot of kids these days. They don't know what

1382
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 4: the worth. They don't even know that they got work

1383
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: along telling the motherfucker that they love them with some

1384
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 4: of it, hitting them, patting them on the back for

1385
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: letting for doing something right. So me expressing to him

1386
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: where I'm at right now, telling him like man, PJ,

1387
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 4: I'm doing this for me, my nigga, not doing this

1388
01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 4: for you no more.

1389
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm quitting because of me. I'm tired of it.

1390
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm doing this solely to be around y'all, taking you

1391
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: to school, I'm picking you up.

1392
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm doing this. I'm doing that. You appreciate this ship.

1393
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: You may not understanding.

1394
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 4: Now that's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna

1395
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: understand it, but later on you're gonna respect it.

1396
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,879
Speaker 6: I say that all the time, but you ain't. Motherfucker

1397
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 6: kids trifling.

1398
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: Home.

1399
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 6: I have a line of told mothers bro, y'all keep

1400
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 6: his room, trifle these mice and ship. O, come fuck

1401
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 6: your roaches and ship. You got a lot to them.

1402
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 6: You gotta kind of cash for sure, y'all said all

1403
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 6: the bullshit.

1404
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: Look appearance, anything to make them listen. Bro, for sure.

1405
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 4: You gotta trick him a little bit like That's what man,

1406
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,839
Speaker 4: by being a dad, like sparking, like sparking that engine.

1407
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: Sometimes. You got a.

1408
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 4: Lot of kids now they don't know how. They ain't

1409
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 4: gonna know because of the the conditions and living circumstances

1410
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 4: that you gather me in, because of what you went through.

1411
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: I went through this.

1412
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm putting you in this type of environment so that

1413
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 4: you don't got to go back to that. If they

1414
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 4: do go back to it, you will fail. You any

1415
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: you a failure if you let them go back. Yeah,

1416
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 4: you feel what I'm saying. So I'm creating this for

1417
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's

1418
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 4: the stage. I'm man, just bossing up Brow what it's

1419
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 4: all about.

1420
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: Bron for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed. Man.

1421
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this

1422
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: means for you, Bro, and how much this means to us.

1423
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: Like we said, we got this opportunity. Shot to the

1424
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: team for making this happen. Man, we were at static. Man,

1425
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: we are really happy that you pulled up on this.

1426
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: Man means the world to us for show.

1427
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: Bro Bro, No, no, for sure, I gotta say something

1428
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: for you leave.

1429
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm so geeked, bro, Like I'm a fan, Like I

1430
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: know we graduated seven whatever, so like when I was

1431
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: in college, you was a rookie and you going against

1432
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 1: Rondo and them in the self six in the playoffs

1433
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, it's some

1434
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: I know him, like I competed against him. I see

1435
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: him to see you do that ship and then like

1436
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: to get to know you over the years and then

1437
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: see what kind of person as you, kind of father

1438
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: you are, how dope you are as a person cool

1439
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: and like for you to have all the accolades and

1440
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: all all the.

1441
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: Shit that you've got, and how humble you was. Like, Bro, you.

1442
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: Would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms

1443
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: and you are like you the one, and you like

1444
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 1: this nigga crazy, I'm taking over the floor. But everybody

1445
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: want to be around you, and that shit is dope.

1446
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: You don't meet too many people who just like who

1447
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: got the resume or the person that you are and

1448
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: let you be you like lor you ain't had to

1449
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: let me start, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like you,

1450
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I earn. I ain't saying I earned

1451
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: the start, bro, But we being honest.

1452
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: Bro. I'm just a realistic person. Bro.

1453
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: Like you might have went through some stuff, you went

1454
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: to New York and whatever, whatever, and then you came

1455
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: to the team. But when you started hooping, nigga, you

1456
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: was averaging sixteen off the bench.

1457
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 2: I was averaging ten.

1458
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 4: But still at that time, I was fully aware of

1459
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 4: where I was at.

1460
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: At that time, I didn't want to start. Tims used

1461
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 2: to try to come to me. I'm like, no, I

1462
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 2: know you didn't want to start, but I was like please, Opposite.

1463
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: The whole reason I'm telling Tim, tell the man is

1464
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: probably going to you like you need to start.

1465
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: Like no, I'm like, tell.

1466
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: Him, what's so crazy is in a different situation that's

1467
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: goes differently and most of the time, and that's the

1468
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: typical NBA typically got them going against each other, but

1469
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: you're pushing each other.

1470
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: And that's why I worked out.

1471
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 6: And now the niggas just didn't want to start because

1472
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 6: they was hurting this feelings.

1473
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: It was about it was it was. It was about

1474
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: that nigga. That's what I came. I was.

1475
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: I was I was fucking zero the lit my last

1476
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: day after we went to the Prince House. Right, we

1477
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: went to the Prince House. Right, we had a little

1478
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: showing that I'm gonna let you'll get out of here

1479
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: me Wig. So if you to know Wigs to love

1480
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: Wig and he's live, he's me and him very similar,

1481
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: entire a lot of stuff.

1482
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: And then doctor just put it out.

1483
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: So I didn't say that. He said that, So then

1484
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: the no Wig, it is the no Gorgy. So it's me,

1485
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: Gorgy and Wig at a table.

1486
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Right.

1487
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: We don't smile for ship. We don't do ship. We

1488
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: mean like, people don't know this side of me. Only

1489
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: the teammates know our joking ships like the fan don't know.

1490
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: They think I'm mass So I don't smile about ship.

1491
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: But Wig don't smell about ship. Gorgy he's the nicest

1492
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: person in the world, but they don't know. Like he

1493
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: don't smile. Man our table empty, nobody want our table.

1494
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 2: I'm talking about man his table.

1495
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: Nigga to Prince Jersey walking by, not one person had

1496
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: a just press the way I think my mama might

1497
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: have one. This Nigga, Prince Jersey bro had to be

1498
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: the highest selling ship in the NBA that it had

1499
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: to be Bro. I know, Bro, they was walking by.

1500
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, damn, not a damn Damn. I'm like,

1501
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: wig damn. We just got a Max. I'm like, fuck, Bro,

1502
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: you might want he. I gotta leave, Bro. They don't

1503
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: fuck with me, y'all. I'm like, they don't know. It

1504
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: was not even just so I gotta leave, like they're

1505
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: not fucking with me no more. It was Cat and

1506
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: then d Ro. This Jersey was more than Cats. I

1507
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's not gonna be back, like you

1508
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Cat not fucking with that.

1509
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: I'm keeping it up being Bro. I'm keeping up being Bro.

1510
01:13:53,600 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: I was like, y'all know, stop, Okay, I'm Bro Guy.

1511
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: I love Cat. Bro, Cat coolest half.

1512
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: I think Cat one of the coldest players to ever play.

1513
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: When I seen that ship, you had to be there, Bro.

1514
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: We act the Prince House Bro with Prince Jerseys. I'm

1515
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: watching him like this is d roll ship. Like, I'm like,

1516
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: this is ship, you know.

1517
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: What I mean.

1518
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a real nigga. Really I realized it. Yeah,

1519
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: he went it six me. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this

1520
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: his team that was.

1521
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: One of the best collabs that they did.

1522
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: I was was that the first time they ever did that.

1523
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1524
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: That was fired up to bro Ma. Mama called me like,

1525
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: get that prince dressing. Baby, It's gonna be a lot

1526
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: for you. I'm like, up there, I said, can you

1527
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: sign this? It's how much of people house? He signed

1528
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: it for me? He was like, yeah, I signed it,

1529
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: and somebody took that bitch. Yeah you signed and put

1530
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: it in the locker.

1531
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 2: Nigga. I came back, it was gone.

1532
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: It was one of the quick Yeah right now, I can.

1533
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: I know so many was asking for that ship. I was,

1534
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: I want to ask another one. I'm like, mother right

1535
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: after this interview.

1536
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 7: With that jersey before for that mother right now he

1537
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 7: had all them Jersey, I said, Yeah, that was a

1538
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 7: hell of experience.

1539
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: That was.

1540
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: That was dope. That was his house was crazy. That's

1541
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: one of the craziest homes I ever been to. I

1542
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: don't still respect him. He's a legend and I'm talking

1543
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: about in the house the rules, No, nigga, don't touch.

1544
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: I can't touch as if he's still there. I've never

1545
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: saw that one nigga be gentle around. That was like,

1546
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: don't shoot on that goal Like I was like.

1547
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 2: Damn, they said that they used to hold to I

1548
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: love to meet him like that.

1549
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: But the same food me and you, like you can't

1550
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 4: bring no meat, no other ship in the crib. They

1551
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 4: still respect him. I never saw nothing like it. Damn,

1552
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: that's not.

1553
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: All we got. I gotta ask. We brought up the jerseys.

1554
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: How does it feel to still see you know what

1555
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like people wear your jersey? Because I know,

1556
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: like we always talk about the jerseys like that, like

1557
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: that baby Blue Nuggets Mellow jersey, but that number one

1558
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,440
Speaker 1: boy jersey.

1559
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: Man, that's like a hood legend jersey.

1560
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: Like everybody in the world, even you go to the

1561
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: Fright House of the Crazy White Boys playing Beer Paul,

1562
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: they got a de bro jersey. How does it feel

1563
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: for that, like to that universal moments like everybody like,

1564
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: no matter where my boy, we.

1565
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 2: Fucking with that jersey.

1566
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude, appreciative,

1567
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And not to make y'all

1568
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 4: this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally

1569
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 4: got like some humor ship.

1570
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: But now you bro straight, bro straight, some people need

1571
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: to hear.

1572
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, But yeah, just living in gratitude, bro, And that's

1573
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 4: one of the reasons why I think wanted to come

1574
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: here and show loveious west Ship.

1575
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, for sure man. Man, Like I said,

1576
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We appreciate you giving us this moment. Man,

1577
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: it means a life for both sides.

1578
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 2: Man. We can't wait to see what you do next.

1579
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, got the team gonna keep creating, man, We're

1580
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: definitely gonna push and support that before we get out

1581
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: of here.

1582
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: Be here and telling people that can grasp and march at.

1583
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,080
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